Bela And Martha Karolyi Break Their Silence About USA Gymnastics Scandals | Megyn Kelly TODAY

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[ APPLAUSE ] >>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE SHOW. I'M MEGYN KELLY. WE BEGIN WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN WHAT IS BEING DESCRIBED AS THE BIGGEST SEX ABUSE SCANDAL IN THE HISTORY OF OLYMPIC SPORTS. FORMER OLYMPIC TEAM DOCTOR LARRY NASSAR WILL SPEND HIS LIFE BEHIND BARS, AFTER HE PLED GUILTY TO MULTIPLE COUNTS OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT AND MULTIPLE CHARGES. NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, BELA AND MARTHA KAROLYI, ARE BREAKING THEIR SILENCE ABOUT THE SCANDAL. SAVANNAH GUTHRIE VISITED THEM AT THEIR RANCH IN TEXAS WHERE MANY GYMNASTS SAY THEY WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED BY NASSAR. SAVANNAH IS HERE IN A MOMENT. FIRST, THIS. >> Reporter: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN GYMNASTICS, ALY RAISMAN, SIMONE BILES, McKAYLA MARONEY AND THEY SAY THEY WERE VIOLATED HERE. HOW DOES THAT SIT WITH YOU? >> THAT'S AWFUL. BUT I WOULD SAY, EVEN IF THEY HAD BIG NAMES OR NO NAMES, ANY CHILD WHO WAS VIOLATED BY NASSAR, IT'S A CRIME. AND IT'S SO SAD. >> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT PEOPLE SAY NOW. HOW COULD THEY NOT HAVE KNOWN? THIS WAS HAPPENING WITH GYMNAST AFTER GYMNAST AFTER GYMNAST. >> YES. BUT IF YOU COULDN'T SUSPECT ANYTHI ANYTHING, I HEARD DURING THE TESTIMONIES THAT SOME OF THE PARENTS THAT WERE IN THE THERAPY ROOM WITH THEIR OWN CHILD AND LARRY NASSAR WAS PERFORMING THIS. AND THE PARENT COULDN'T SEE. HOW I COULD SEE? >> SAVANNAH, WELCOME. >> NICE TO BE HERE. >> LISTENING TO THAT, MY FIRST INSTINCT IS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO OVER WELL WITH THE PARENTS. SHE HAD -- THEY HAD CHARGE OF THESE GYMNASTS AND WERE ENTRUSTED WITH THEIR CARE. AND YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE PARENTS AND SAY, YOU DIDN'T KNOW, EITHER. >> THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. LARRY NASSAR, TRIED, CONVICTED, SENTENCED AND SPENDING THE REST OF HIS LIFE AND THEN SOME IN JAIL. THE FIRST QUESTION, DID THEY KNOW? YOU HEARD THE KAROLYIS SAYING, NO, WE DIDN'T KNOW. THE NEXT QUESTION IS JUST AS IMPORTANT -- SHOULD YOU HAVE KNOWN? WHY DIDN'T YOU KNOW? WHAT IS IT ABOUT THAT CULTURE INSIDE USA GYMNASTICS THAT COULD ALLOW A PERPETRATOR LIKE LARRY NASSAR FLOURISH FOR DECADES. >> THAT GETS TO THE HEART OF IT. AND THE KAROLYI RANCH WAS BIG. >> MARY LOU RETTON AND KERRI STRUG S. >> YOU WEPT DOWN TO THE RANCH, WHAT WAS IT LIKE? >> IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN NBC HAS BEEN TO THE RANCH IN THE PAST. THEY ARE LEGENDS. THE PERFECT TEN GYMNASTS AND THEY DEFECTED FROM ROMANIA AND CAME TO THE U.S. AND REPEATED THE MAGIC. THEY WERE CHAMPIONMAKERS. AND THE KAROLYI RANCH USED TO HAVE THE MYSTIQUE. THEY WERE SO EXCITED AND HONORED TO SET FOOT ON THE GROUND BECAUSE IT MEANT YOU WERE THE ELITE OF THE ELITE. NOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT PLACE. IT'S CLOSED. USA GYMNASTICS NO LONGER RUNS IT AS THE TRAINING CENTER. IT'S EMPTY. BELA AND MARTHA LIVE ON THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A RANCH, A BIG GYM, A NEW GYM AND AN OLD GYM, EMPTY. THE CABINS ARE EMPTY. THE CAFETERIA IS EMPTY. THEY ARE THERE AND TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENED. >> AND THEIR ROLE, IF ANY, IN KNOWINGLY ALLOWING IT AND HOW IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED SO LONG AT THEIR FACILITY. ONE OF THE YOUNG WOMEN ALLEGE G ING SHE WITH WAS ABUSED BY NASSAR IS TALKING ABOUT HOW THE KAROLYI RANCH WAS IN THIS REMOTE AREA AND THERE WAS NO CELL PHONE SERVICE. THE YOUNG WOMEN HAVE ALLEGED A CULTURE IN TEAM USA GYMNASTICS OF ABUSE. >> AND THERE'S LAWSUITS PENDING AGAINST THE KAROLYIS, AGAINST USA GYMNASTICS AND MICHIGAN STATE. THERE'S A LOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET. I THINK WHAT OUR "DATELINE" HOUR ON SUNDAY REALLY DELVES INTO IS THE QUESTION OF THE CULTURE AND WHERE DOES THE RESPONSIBILITY LIE? LOOK, NOW, IT LOOKS SO NEF NEFARIOUS. LOOK AT IT FROM THE KAROLYIS IN THIS PERSPECTIVE. IT'S ON THIS RANCH BECAUSE THEY HAD THE SPACE. THESE WEREN'T GIRL SCOUTS GETTING LIBRARY BOOKS OR SOMETHING. THIS WAS THE OLYMPIC TRAINING CENTER. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INTENSE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE KAROLYIS TALK ABOUT. BELIEVE IN IT OR NOT, THEIR THEORY OF THE CASE IS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF GYMNASTS WHO ARE EXCELLENT. MARTHA KAROLYI TOLD ME, THERE WERE TECHNICAL GREAT GYMNASTS THAT YOU NEVER HEARD OF BECAUSE WHEN IT CAME TO COMPETITION, THEY WOULD COLLAPSE BECAUSE THE PRESSURE IS SO INTENSE. THEIR THEORY IS, YOU COME TO THE KAROLYI RANCH AND WE'RE GOING TO MIMIC COMPETITION. THERE'S NOT A MOMENT WHEN WE'RE SLACKING AND LAUGHING AND HAVING FUN. FROM THE SECOND YOU ARE THERE, YOU ARE ON. EVERY DAY IS OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL COMPETITION DAY. AND THEY THINK THAT IS THE SECRET TO PRODUCING CHAMPIONS WHO, WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR LONDON OR RIO, THEY WALK OUT AND IT'S LIKE ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE FOR THEM. THAT'S HOW THEY EXPLAIN THE INTENSITY OF THE ENVIRONMENT. THE YOUNG WOMEN -- >> I THINK THERE'S A REASON I NEVER PURSUED ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND WOULDN'T WANT MY CHILDREN TO PURSUE THAT. IT'S TOO INTENSE. WE HAD ONE OF THE WOMEN ON THE SHOW TALKING ABOUT HOW SHE HURT HERSELF TO AVOID GOING. IT WAS SO OVERWHELMING. WHERE DOES IT STAND NOW? WE'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF WOMEN COME FORWARD AND POINT THE FINGER AT DR. NASSAR AS A SERIAL ABUSER THAT WENT ON OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU SPOKE WITH ONE THAT HASN'T SAID MUCH, McKAYLA MARONEY. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE REMEMBER McKAYLA. SHE WON GOLD, WAS A VAULTER. YOU REMEMBER WHEN SHE HAD HER NOT IMPRESSED FACE BECAUSE SHE GOT SECOND FACE. THAT PHOTO WENT VIRAL. A LOT OF US KNOW McKAYLA. WE NEVER HEARD HER TELL HER STORY PUBLICLY LIKE THIS. IT IS A PAINFUL STORY. OTHER GYMNASTS THOUGHT THAT McKAYLA GOT IT THE WORST. AND TO HEAR HER TELL IT, IT'S HARD TO DISAGREE. SHE WENT THROUGH A LOT. AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE TOO MUCH AWAY BUT I THINK THERE WERE MOMENTS WHERE SHE WAS CRYING OUT FOR HELP AND PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE HEARD. AND THEY DIDN'T. >> WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. WATCH THIS. >> I THINK I WOULD HAVE STARVED AT THE OLYMPICS IF I DIDN'T HAVE HIM BRING ME FOOD. >> WHY? I WOULD THINK YOU HAD AS MUCH FOOD AS YOU NEEDED. >> YOUR COACHES ARE WATCHING YOU AND WANTING TO KEEP YOU SKINNY. THERE'S OTHER THINGS ABOUT THE CULTURE THAT ARE ALSO MESSED U . THAT HE USED AGAINST US. >> THERE'S A CULTURE OF NOT EATING VERY MUCH AND LIMITING YOUR CALORIES. BUT HE WOULD WHAT? >> BUY ME A LOAF OF BREAD. >> LITERALLY A LOAF OF BREAD. >> THERE'S A REASON HE DID THAT FOR HER. >> AND THIS GOES TO WHAT THE GYMNASTS SEE AS GROOMING BEHAVIOR. THIS IS WHAT IS SO COMPLEX AND HAS A LOT OF THEM CONFUSED TO THIS DAY. IN THIS INTENSE CULTURE WHEN THEY COULDN'T GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING. THEY WERE ON BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BE CHOSEN FOR THIS OLYMPIC TEAM. HE IS DOING SOMETHING UNDER THE GUISE OF MEDICAL TREATMENT. MANY OF THE GIRLS DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS SEXUAL ABUSE. THEY'RE YOUNG GIRLS. McKAYLA WAS 13 WHEN SHE SAID THIS STARTED HAPPENING. UNDER THE GUISE OF MEDICAL TREATMENT. BUT HE ALSO, THEY SAY, WAS ONE OF THE KINDER ADULTS AROUND. AND IN SOME CASES, AS YOU JUST SAW, HE WOULD LITERALLY SNEAK THEM FOOD. IT'S ALL COMPLICATED. IF YOU TALK TO THE GYMNASTS AND ASK THEM, IT'S NOT THAT MARTHA KAROLYI IS STANDING OVER THEM SAYING DON'T YOU EAT. WE HAD A BUFFET. OF COURSE THEY CAN EAT. BUT IT WAS MUCH MORE -- IT SOUNDS LIKE, ACCORDING TO THE GYMNASTS, MUCH MORE INSIDIOUS. THEY FELT LIKE THEY COULDN'T. THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD TO LIVE UP TO STANDARDS. THEY FELT THEY HAD TO WATCH THE CALORIES AND STAY SKINNY. >> I WONDER IF THERE'S A GREATER LESSON IN THIS. WHAT HAPPENED WITH TEAM USA GYMNASTICS IS PROBLEMATIC. BUT YOU WORRY THAT A PREDATOR MIGHT FIND HIS WAY INTO YOUR CHILD'S LIFE. AND THE TRUTH IS, THEY TEND TO BE WILY AND CLEVER AND KIND. IT'S NOT SOME SCARY BOOGIE MAN WHO IS IDENTIFIABLE AS SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO HURT YOUR CHILD AS A MONSTER. IT'S SOMEONE LIKE LARRY NASSAR WHO WILL GROOM AND ENGENDER TRUST. >> HE BECOMES THEIR ALLY. AND THEY FELT LIKE THEIR ONLY ALLY. McKAYLA TELLS A STORY THAT SHOCKED ME. WHEN SHE FIRST GOT TO 2012 -- SHE MAKES THE OLYMPIC TEAM. IT'S A HUGE THING AND SHE GET THERE'S AND SHE SAID, I BROKE MY FOOT ON THE FIRST DAY. I COVERED THE 2012 OLYMPICS. I NEVER KNEW SHE HAD A BROKEN FOOT. SHE WAS VAULTING. AND SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW LARRY NASSAR COVERED THAT INJURY FOR HER SO SHE COULD STILL COMPETE. AND SHE WAS GRATEFUL. SHE FELT LIKE, OH, HE SAVED MY OLYMPIC DREAM. IF THEY KNEW I BROKE MY FOOT, THEY WOULD BE TAKING ME OFF THAT TEAM AND PUT AN ALTERNATE IN. THERE'S SO MUCH IN TERMS OF AFTERMATH AND TERMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR USA GYMNASTICS AND THE FBI AND THE USOC. BUT THE DEVASTATING EMOTIONAL AFTERMATH, AND McKAYLA TALKS ABOUT IT, TRYING TO RECOGNIZE THESE TWO PEOPLE, SAYING YOU ARE A MONSTER. >> WHAT THAT DOES TO YOUR SENSE OF TRUST AND THE TRUST OF YOUR JUDGMENT AND THE RELATIONSHIPS AROUND YOU. THE EXTENT OF THE DEVASTATION THAT MAN CAUSED AND THOSE WHO ALLOWED OR ENABLED THEM, HAVE THEIR OWN RECKONING TO DEAL WITH. WE GOT A STATEMENT FROM TEAM USA GYMNASTICS THAT READS, WE ARE COMMITTED TO CREATING A CULTURE THAT EMPOWERS AND SUPPORTS OUR ATHLETES AND FOCUSING ON THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. WE HOPE EVERYTHING WE DO GOING FORWARD MAKES THIS VERY CLEAR. ALL RIGHT. IT'S SUNDAY NIGHT, 7:00, DON'T MISS IT. MISS IT. >> IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT
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Published: Fri Apr 20 2018
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