It’s Finally Over…

[Music] so some of us and indeed I'm sure many of you are currently experiencing an extreme case of the Mandela effect yes the Mandela effect because Britney Spears really did have that microphone in that music video you know the little headset thing and the Monopoly guy really did have that monocle didn't he and didn't Star Trek Discovery get cancelled after its second season right am I wrong but then CERN fired up its Large Hadron Collider and then transported Humanity into an alternate reality no Star Trek Discovery has done five seasons yeah I know what many of you are watching it you're like what Discovery did five years what I thought that ended years ago well it did I think in a effect maybe I think maybe I'm wrong I could be wrong anyway oh boy five years of Michael buram crying in corridors so discovery's done five years and it's finished now it's last episode's over bye bye Michael we're going to see her we're going to see her again somewhere aren't we they're doing a they're doing a Star Trek Star freed Academy series and characters from this show are going to pop up in it for sure um so Michael so so we got five years years of pew pew pew in corridors in between Michael Burnham crying and people being told how amazing they are just the way they are and how much they've grown and uh and heavy discussion of feelings so that's Star Trek Discovery over the fifth season apparently was a bit of a a McGuffin hunt a lot of people said that it was actually better than the previous Seasons High bar there of course and said we had a kind of an Indiana Jones type feel it was tied into an ex Generation episode called The Chase and uh and the last episode we find out that this guy is actually and this was really contrived right so he's in a room and there's there's a few like props from the other shows like supposed to be Cisco's baseball and jordy's original visor like why right uh what how how did he get his hands on that right and uh there's a few other things in there right and so so get the impression this guy's a time traveler whatever and turns out he's not just any time traveler he's agent Daniels from from Star Trek Enterprise right and it's just it's so contrived like apparently they had to they didn't think the show was ending at the end of the fifth season so they modified the ending and threw in a few bits and pieces and I feel like maybe this scene with Burnham and this guy so so it turns out he's actually agent agent Daniels and what he says to her is that his name is Agent agent Daniels of the USS Enterprise which is a reference obviously to Star Trek Enterprise only the fact that they got the the registration wrong it's not the USS Enterprise it's the SS Enterprise but you know it's it's Discovery and it's modern new Trek so like like why are we even bothering to hold them to the standard of basic continuity right um so so uh anyway five years of of something called Star Trek that didn't in any way resemble it actually it would have been hilarious if he said yes my real name is Mr Frederickson from up cuz cuz he looks so much like him um but you know it it just the idea that this guy is is Agent Daniels from Enterprise who was originally played on Enterprise by Matt Winston H he doesn't this guy kovich doesn't sound like him doesn't act like him doesn't look like him um it it just it it doesn't work for me it just feels very tacked on and contrived and ultimately like a cheap gimmick designed to sort to make it a kind of a oh wow moment for the fans to go look look it's Daniels from Enterprise you know they just throwing in a cheap reference there that doesn't feel organic or earned um so so uh I mean maybe if they had gotten Matt Winston back to play the role let's say this kovich presses a button and a holographic disguise that he's wearing disappears and you know and then real it's it's it's Daniel's and and Matt Winston and but uh now instead it's like yeah I'm I'm I'm Daniels and I'm like yeah sure you are you know I'm just I'm just not buying it you know it just doesn't feel believable so so the so the final moments of this discovery episode the episode is called life itself incidentally uh this is the 10th and final episode of the season and the last episode of the show and that the last few moments are about as nauseating and and overly emtional and overly sentimental as you could possibly imagine or as you've come to imagine from this show I suppose and uh you know there's a lot of hugging and crying and this got me thinking about something um it never seemed to be necessary for them to have these massive displays of emotion on the likes of the Next Generation or or DS9 or Voyager uh did did some characters cry and you know yeah there were tears sometimes but they never had to go over the top with it uh with the melodrama and uh you know W with the sentimentality it it never had to to become overbearing and just too much you know it seems now that the objective of these writers in in these types of shows is to is to tr try to by as desperately as possible that the highest uh priority appears to be to get people to to cry and then that way they feel that they have achieved their goal of moving you and it's but it's an appeal to base emotions it's not an appeal to intellect or anything like that and you know if you watch all good things it's such a great series finale and so is what you leave behind I'm not as big a fan of Voyager finale end game but I I I still think it works reasonably well uh Enterprises finale um was unfortunately not good but um all good things and what you leave behind are superb and I think in particular all good things and you know I think you can you can very very genuinely get a bit Misty eyed when Bard is dealing the cards at the poker table it's just a simple scene with his friends and we get that beautiful overhead shot and they start playing poker and then the the Enterprise flies off into the nebula and they're they're not the writers are not trying to force the emotion on you right but but by these by these really over-the-top uh gratuitous displays of emotion and people crying and all the sort they don't have to do any of that you you got to know these characters for so many years uh you already know what they mean to each other and a lot of things don't need to be said and they can be implied and so so when you get a bit MTI eyed at the end of that scene or at the end of what you leave behind or at the end of end game whatever um it feels earned it feels authentic it feels organic um but with discovery it isn't because half the characters you don't even know their names half the bridge crew you don't even remember who they are you you know Tilly and you know Michael Burnham and suu and all these you know right you know a few of them the the doctor's name I forget him now but um right so a stamats right so see you know a few of these people and then um you just keep seeing them hugging each other and crying and and it's it's sort of like the writers don't know how to evoke those genuine emotions that the writers could when they when back in the day with all good things and with what you leave behind so they have to keep telling you over and over again that the discovery crew are a family and they really care about each other and they love each other and then they they hope that if they can just keep showing you showing you these characters hugging and and and crying that it'll be sort of like you know the way if you know some people watch reality television shows and they watch like I don't know American Idol or one of those shows or or Britain's Got Talent or what you know and you know the way the judges put someone through to the next round and then it's very emotional and then the person runs backstage and they hug their family and they're all jumping up and down and they're crying and then they interview them and they're and they're ecstatic cuz they're going through to the next round or whatever that's the kind of emotionality that they Bank on this is what reality TV show has done to television now even genre Television right they're hoping that a generation raised on reality television shows that just are meant to sort of manipulate you in an emotional perspective right to just keep you watching they're hoping that that'll work um but yeah that's uh that's a pet theory of mine I don't know what you think but I did want to actually discuss something because recently Robert Meer Bernett mentioned something that's been on my mind for a long time he did a video on Star Trek and his Star Trek rants are just epic epic streams and really very thorough and always from the heart uh of a fan who just loves Star Trek and he said that a lot of modern science fiction and and I suppose STK in particular is very heavily influenced the writers are very heavily influenced by Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel and I just I don't think this can be denied I think this is absolutely on point and it's been that those shows were you know they were great in their day but they were very very influential um to a generation of Young Writers people back then who were in their teens who were now in their 20s and 30s and or or older right in the 40s it seems to me that like I say a generation writers in science fiction and genre television have been influenced by Buffy and Angel and I think Robert Myer berett is is 100% on that um you the the greatest expression of this I think you can see in strange new worlds uh where we get you know a lot of dialogue like there's a lot of back chat you know they kind of speak like they're uh their their sort of millennial and gen Z dialogue um but you also get a lot of irony and you get far too much humor and witty banter that's very it feels very weed nesque at times and as a result of that you get these Junior officers uh basically being insubordinate towards their superiors you know um and of course last year we had this musical right which was which was inspired by Buffy the Vampire slayer's sixth season episode once more with feeling and it has a very once more with feeling kind of vibe about it uh on Discovery I think there was plenty of examples of this so one thing that Buffy did very well in addition to having a very rapid fire uh funny dialogue and everything and and constant quips which looking back you know I kind of find a little irritating but anyway um there's also a lot of POS and a lot of irony so so the show could do you know Buffy and Angel could do drama they could do melodrama very very well um and Discovery had a lot of that you know a lot of displays of emotional diarrhea you know uh which which is fine for a teen focused show about vampires and demons and werewolves and magic and all that sort of stuff right and and a show based in a high school where you expect uh a lot of Teen Angst right but not a show based on a federation Starship with supposedly professional uh military people right okay and they're constantly having nervous breakdowns and uh you know emotional outbursts and crying and getting angry and behaving you know really in in a way that is is highly Unbecoming to an adult let alone a Starfleet officer so um you know there was always that I always got that feel where um where you had dialogue in the episode that felt very oh that's sort of like a line that Xander would say oh that's very Cordelia oh that's very Ana oh Tilly is expressing herself in a way that maybe Willow would do you know I always felt that about these shows and so I'm sort of the Reas the reason I'm bringing it up is like okay I'm not the only person who who's thinking about this I'm glad that someone else like Robert Meer berett has noticed so so it feels like there's no depth or intelligence to these shows and it's supposed to be highbrows science fiction and Star Trek could do a range of different genres like one week it could be a comedy you know it could do a light-hearted episode you know it could it can do a western you know in the holc right it can do the holc can basically take you anywhere you know they can do a time travel story they can do a courtroom drama the next week you know they can do a a more hardcore bottle based science fiction story they can Star Trek can do horror as well so Star Trek can do anything um but ultimately it is supposed to be a clever show and it didn't always hit the mark but for the most part Star Trek was uh a benchmark for other science fiction series and so I think there's something really wrong with the idea that a generation of writers didn't look at Star Trek as their influence for Star Trek shows right that's what you should be focused on you should say what else is that this here's this franchise that's gone on for decades and that's what you should be drawing on for as your influence as your inspiration is all of those other shows and all of those other stories and hundreds and hundreds of episodes and and lots of movies and there you go that's what you have to draw on and it was such a high caliber of Science Fiction for so many years and instead uh it feels to me as like that the influence was actually something else it was a sort of teen focused show from the the late 90s and early 2000s instead from a completely different genre and uh and that's what it feels like it feels like there was a there was a focus on on trying to have you know the the quick weighted fast-paced clever dialogue uh which was kind of laced with irony laced with with with with snark rather than focusing on the quality of the storytelling and interesting science fiction Concepts Star Trek is supposed to be a science fiction Benchmark by itself it's not supposed to be a a show that takes its inspiration from another genre right or another show before it you know or or pays homage to something like that it's it is supposed to be the show that other sci-fi shows look up to and yeah I don't think that's what Star Trek Discovery was um but there you go thank you very much for watching let me know your thoughts in the comments below take care and I'll see you next time bye-bye [Music]

Channel: The Dave Cullen Show

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Length: 16min 36sec (996 seconds)

Published: Sat Jun 01 2024