Is Realistic Submarine Ballast Now Possible With Stormworks Gasses Update?

so can we make realistic submarines can we I don't know but let me show you how submarines kind of currently work in storm works so in stormworks you can build a submarine and there are a few ways that you can submerge and you know jump back up to the surface uh you don't actually have to use ballast you can make them heavy enough and just use your elevators on the submarine is that right elevators is that what they're called on the submarine feel like they're not called elevators but you can use elevators in the game or air surfaces to make the submarine dive and come back up so what I wanted to find out is can we make a realistic submarine that uses uh compressed air to blow out ballast and surface you know surface submarine so what I'm going to do is first show you this submarine so I'm going to go ahead and turn that on and the way this submarine works is it is currently filling the ballast and so there are tanks if I kind of cheat let's see here right over here so let's just go like that so right here a door has opened and the submarine is filling the B tanks with water so if we look at the summary on the outside well relatively different than it used to sit in the water so like I said with the new update we kind of have to rebalance our submarines and our ships and probably our planes but anyway the idea here is let's get this thing going those are pumps I guess uh all right so let's go ahead and to get going if it works and let's set our depth to Periscope why aren't you diving little sub down to hit the button you're still filling B tanks oh I know why I know why I know why okay I got it so what happened why the submarine is broken is because there's now air in this space but the problem is with the old submarines this space is now filled with air and I'm not going to be able to dive this submarine okay that makes sense all right so let's just take this back into the workshop and I'll show you some real quick all right so we're in the editor and I just want to show you so the old submarines we would open this door it would fill with water and then we have these pumps right here with the air filter on now we use the air filter because in the previous version of stormworks before the gases if you dove with a submarine at some point the pumps would not be able to pump out the water so if this was not actually going to an air filter and it was pushing the water out the submarine your pumps would stop working so everybody just started using air filters which basically delete the water as it comes through the pump I assume this still works I don't know if it still works or not but so what we want to do is fill up some air tanks which would be our compressed air and then when we fill this room with water our bance tank we want to be able to push this water out and uh you know no matter what depth we are however deltar said in an interview that he would not change how pumps work so they probably will still have issues pushing out water at depth but we don't know if the compressed air will work so what we're going to do we're going to figure that out today so I'm going to show you my kind of my modified submarine test which is this one right here okay so you can see here uh what I did just for testing and this is not what I'm going to do but I just wanted to see if it would kind of work I have air tanks down here or empty tanks and thanks to Phil for telling me they took out the option they took out the option to set a tank to like empty so you just have to like lower its contents on a slider bar so if I look here you have to do this so I just picked fresh water I don't know if that matters what it what this means here I don't think it does cuz it seems to work but I just put the level to zero and that's the way you get your empty tanks because before we used to have an option here that just said empty but now we don't unless I was crazy but I'm pretty sure that we did have that option anyways that's gone if it was over there so I've got my my uh compressed air tanks here I'm fill with compressed air and I have this room right here if we get out of here we have this room right here that has doors up here which are going to open and allow water in and then we'll try to blow tanks and you know get rid of the water so let me show you this little test if I remember right it's this one yes this one okay so right now the air pumps right here are pulling in air I think these are as well and so so if we come down in here right down here oops the air is coming down from up top and into these tanks and you can see pressure is 33 atmospheric pressure and they are rising they will rise to 100 and then we will attempt to dive and then we'll attempt to uh blow the air and this is just like you know you know what 20 M of water maybe not 20 like 15 10 I don't know what it is but the point is I'm just going to show you that it works at at this depth because you know some R need to go down and they need to come back up but how fun would it be during a sub hunt to uh have the submarines actually have to use their compressed air to get out of the water and recharge the batteries and all that stuff and then have to turn on their compressed air pumps again to fill up their tanks so that when they dive they can come back up again I think that'd be pretty fun so as you can see like they're not all equal here depending on how the pumps are set up and that is worth noting you see this little guy here the fluid filters are taken out they were removed so you can't use these kind of fluid filters on your build anymore I mean I guess you could use the old one but I don't know if they work properly uh and then we have the other one the new ones the little tiny ones for gas or fluid filtering so if I want to stop fluid from coming into these pipes here I would put my little valve on here for air and it would only allow air D problem is as soon as you put those on here or even the old one the uh the pumps like are reduced to like nothing it will take forever to fill up your tanks so if we look here we are full so we're going to turn that off and I think we're going to hit this button which is going to flood the tanks so yeah so we're flooding the tanks right now and we should sink probably in the back half at least so anyways yeah filters are a problem and I don't know why they them if you add them I don't know if it's a bug or a feature but using filters sucks so we're going to go ahead and is it full it looks like 5337 is it and again this is only a test don't expect the submarine to like actually go down as far as should be but what we want to do next is the compressed air is at 100 and we want to push this water out and it's actually pushing the water out out of the sides here see those right there so it's going to press the water out so here we go and pressed air for the win as you can see it is pushing the air out so yeah that's awesome so let me give you some notes on that so here's my final test it's kind of a mess it's not what your submarine is going to look like of course but what we have here is these pumps up here are going to bring in air into these two side tanks inner side tanks okay they're going to put compressed air in here and on the outer side where we at the outer side this is where we're going to bring in our water you can see I have my doors and what we're going to do with these side things here is we're going to push out the water using a combination of pumps and compressed air and the reason I'm using the pumps is because compressed air alone is pretty quick but with the pumps you could add a few pumps to your submarine and in combination with the compressed air you're going to get get the water out of the the sub quicker so that's why I did this it's also a test to see if at a lower depth we can use the pumps to expel the water with the compressed air so that is what we're going to do so let's go ahead and go test this okay so here's the test build we're in the middle of the ocean so we should get some depth out of it uh do I have yeah I have damage off so what we have here is the atmospheric pressure that's like out here and then this is the pressure in the water tanks okay and then of course this is our altitude and this is the volume of air and I believe that's the water so let's go ahead and turn on the lights and pump in the air okay so using all these pumps you can see how fast it is to fill up the compressed air tanks so that's quite a bit of pumps I think in order to do that so I'm imagine that it's probably around the right number you'd want for a I guess I'm going to go with ubot so that it doesn't take forever but it does take some time to fill up the compressed air tanks so how many is that 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 about 24 so I got two in the front as well so there you go so 24 big pumps pumping it up so let's go ahead and wait and then we go ahead and fill the bast tanks all right so it went to 101 okay so going to turn off those pumps now and so we have compressed air in both these tanks underneath us that are at 100 atmospheric pressure and once we open up the ballast tanks these doors here we're going to sink are we ready let's do it okay and as you can see it's kind of scary we just kind of Dove underneath the water very quickly and so it's filling up it looks like 9147 is about it so we'll go ahead and close that off and we're just going to sink the atmospheric pressure is one still so I'm not getting any like rushing depth or anything like that on my body I assume because it's not really changing so inside our balance tanks we got a pressure of four so it's only three times more just because we added fluid to it I don't know how that works but where are we at so we are roughly 300 M under the water you can also see they bubble so that is that's a fluid out these are fluid or this these are air in and they let off little bubbles I always wonder if they're like leaking but not positive is that going down this thing at 100 I don't know not too sure we we're at 101 but seems to be okay now all right so what we're going to do now is we're going to turn on the pumps on the sides we're also going to use the compressed air to push out that water okay so here we go hit the right one yep there you go you can see the particles and we starting to rise and if you look we've already blown out the fluid so we're starting to rise but yeah so yeah the tanks are empty now so I guess we could do one more test just to show you I'm going to go ahead and take off all the pumps and we'll try it and see if we can blow the ballast with only compressed air let's do that all right so what we need to do differently here is we're going to use a valve and we're going to get rid of all of these tanks and then we're just going to put our valve and this is an on andof valve right so it's not a variable valve it's a simple buleon so it will either turn on or turn off allowing fluid to pass through it okay all right so we'll put these back on and then we will only have pressed air to get rid of the fluid okay let's go back to our test body over here all right there it is all right so what the difference is again we are using the air pumps of course to fill up the tanks however however all of our fluid ballast will be pushed out of the submarine hopefully by the compressed air that we are now filling up so I don't know how fast this is going to be I think with all of these valves we should be able to expel the water relatively quickly probably not as fast as with the pumps but maybe I don't know maybe I have enough that uh it's going to be pretty fast so we'll find out so let's wait for the compressed air to fill up and then I'll go ahead and dive the submarine all right we're at 100 ballast on a side note is it just this me or are things a bit more uh I don't know if the right word is buoyant but bouncy now I feel like we didn't used to bounce around so much with you know weather set all the way down but maybe it did and I just never made a small boat and sat on top of the water I don't know but it does feel a little bit more oceany which is cool all right so what we're going to do of course is drop down and see what happens so scary when that opens up so when I press a button the valves in the center will open the valves on the outside will open and the water should be you know pushed out at 300 M now if this works we should be able to have realistic submarines to a certain extent of course they're still a little bit funky but this is a good step to having some uh you know realistic gameplay for some rine hunts if it works don't know are you ready 3 2 1 is that working yeah it is expelling the water not as fast as the air pumps did so if you want your submarine to rise a little quicker I think you need a combination of compressed air and maybe a few air pumps just to get it out uh so we're expelling the water we're at 74% basically of our compressed air and we're slowly not Rising we're not Rising we're stuck on the bottom still okay we're at 6,000 we're halfway there on our compressed air will we be able to expel all the water without pumps I do not know so exciting 22% I feel like we're not going to have enough compressed air to get all the water out but I might be wrong so I think what this is showing is we may need to have or make sure your submar is balanced so that you have a little bit was that a fish what was that oh it's air bubble uh so that you have a little bit more compressed air than you do ballast and you should be fine or add a pump the pumps were great but uh I don't think we're going to be able to get out of here with the compressed air that we had also is it oh 19 tank pressure I was going to say is it pressing the water back in yes I think it is yes okay so now we've lost pressure we're at five and our pressure is 19 it probably was letting water back in and I didn't notice so that's a reason to have either H know what we're going to do we're going to do this one more time hold on I got an idea all right so we're going to have to go and delete some stuff here yet again and one of the main reasons I added the pumps besides the speed is that a pump is trying to allow water flow Only One Direction so we do have a part here if I can find it that only allows water to travel in one direction or fluid I guess not just water fluid and that is this little magic guy and so if we put this on just like this it's not going to allow I believe even with the pressure in the ocean trying to push back into the tank I believe it's not going to allow the fluid to back up I could be wrong but we're going to give it a try all right here we go again it's going to take a while so I'm just going to go ahead and cut to the part where these tanks are filled up and then we'll dive all right so we're at 104 and uh we're going to go ahead and dive I feel like that must be releasing the extra air out maybe I don't know what that sound is but we're going to go ahead and dive and then we're going to see if my fluid flow valve makes a difference there we go dive okay as we go down you can see that the pressure is changing this is the pressure in the tank I wonder I didn't really put like pressure meters on everything but is this only the water affecting the pressure all right so I think we're at the bottom we're at the bottom let's close that okay so we got eight in the inside tank one where I'm sitting got the 9367 that's always a bit different isn't it and 104 so now we're going to open the valve between the compressed air tank and the fluid tank and they are going to expel the water through these one-way Valves and hopefully completely expel the water are you ready 3 2 1 there we go you can see that the compressed air is being used and we're dumping the water now it should not allow the water to come back in this time so whatever you know 100% of compressed air is able to press out of this fluid tank is probably a good idea of how much compressed air we're going to need if the volume of fluid is the same as the volume of compressed air wow I almost sound like I know what I'm talking about feel like we're going to have a little bit of water left over though I think we're going to need a a little more than one: one when it comes to compressed air versus fluid but I don't know maybe we'll get lucky it's still going they're starting to equalize here that's interesting so the compressed air and the actual fluid tank are having about the same amount of pressure okay wait our water is going back up again how is that all right so I'm going to say maybe unless we have a lot more air we're not going to be expelling all right let's let's just do double if I'm going to double the volume I should probably double the double the air intakes right we're going to be here all day waiting okay so we don't really care about the weight of the submarine I don't no we don't really care about the weight of the submarine or anything like that so now we have double the air volume or double compressed air what I mean to say all right here is our super sci-fi sub we're going to go ahead and fill up the air tanks and as you can see we've got double the amount of compressed air so will that allow us to expel all the water and not have the water flow back in I don't know why the water flowed back in the only thing I can think of oh do you think that the water when that pressure rises in that tank is pressing the water back into the compressed air tank air tanks are getting a little bit of fluid in there I think okay let's shut that off all right let's dive okay so we okay this I think this is a good sign we're at 6,000 versus 70% I'm kind of like quitting that the percentage is a representation of the fluid level don't know if that's completely true but it's roughly right so we're halfway and we're at 4,000 or almost almost halfway okay wait I think this is going to work our pressure in the tank is 25 and dropping I don't know if these matter if they get to be the same if it stops doing the pressure out I'm not positive but this pressure is lower than this pressure so we might be okay oh yeah yeah yeah we're out pressurizing the tank or whatever technical term that is okay it worked and our pressure is lower in the tank our pressure is higher in our compressed air tank and we are expelling the last of the water to zero can we do zero can we do it can we get rid of the water uhoh wait what why why okay wait let me turn this off okay I don't understand okay this is the part that's confusing me these all have oneway valves and at some point oh I don't think I have a meter in here to tell me do I do I have a gases meter let's check this out oops maybe water got into the air tanks here we go liquid meter sea water 3.3 six I'm guessing that the seawat got into the compressed air section and it's pushing it now into that tank so what came to mind is do these filters degrade if you don't have a pump in use so if I'm just using pipes and you know straightaway valves actually can I just I can probably yeah I think so I can probably proba no I can't cuz if the pressure is going to push the water back in I don't want to do that I want to make sure that I do have my one ways so I was going to take the one ways off but I think for sure I want to keep the one ways on to make sure that it doesn't push water back into the system and these right here these little guys are kind of like the new filters we have I don't have an old one here on this thing but these are supposed to filter out um air from being able to pass through it so in theory if we're using compressed air and we are pushing it through here and you know what we should do do I want to do this uh okay let's go ahead and do this I don't know if I want to do this but we're going to all right so let's go ahead and I just realized that I only have one of these that's crazy isn't that crazy like to I'm expelling the water at a pretty good rate considering I only have one all right let's grab one of these that is the wrong one we don't want to allow water we want to only allow gas okay so why am I doing this so what I'm trying to prove to myself is if we have compressed air in here and let's say water gets in here we don't want water to go back into this water tank so we're only going to allow the compressed air to be pushed through the valve into this water tank and all of these have the oneway valves and fluid valves to only allow fluid out not the air so in theory yet again if we have compressed air we push it out through here we are pushing this uh into this tank and out oh do I want to wow I feel like you know what we're going to do I this is getting more complicated the more I do it and maybe that's the way it works but uh what we're going to do is we're going to go ahead and you can tell I did not think this through but we're going to go ahead and do one of these okay uh can't see which way it's pointing so we're going to allow uh we're going to allow compressed air to enter this area here oh my gosh do I have to do this I do and we're going to only allow gas relief and give me a filter uh we can use this one and there we go so let me talk my way through this one again so we fill this with compressed air uh we open this valve it will only allow air to pass through here it will only allow air to pass one way through it will then open this valve and go through here pushing the compressed air into this tank which has oneway valves that only allow fluid to go out and it will only allow fluid out of these filters and that is it doesn't that seem like a a good idea here we go I'm going to fill this up and then we'll try it you know what I'm gonna do something else okay so I'm kind of not really interested in waiting forever to see if this works or fails so what we're going to do is we're going to copy this whole thing so just to speed it up the testing cuz seems like it takes forever it's going to take a while but I'm going to pull in the air now so if you've been jumping around this video Let's recap what we're doing let's first go into the compressed air chamber here so what we are doing we're filling this chamber up this tank up with compressed air okay we're on the surface we're filling it up we then have this setup here so that when we open this valve it will pull in the compressed air this is a gas uh filter it will allow gases through not water so in case we got water in here on accident it will not let that through we will pull the gas through one way and it will go into the fluid tanks and you can see we have all these valves here and they're going to dump compressed air in here now when we do that we're going to be opening these valves right here and these valves are to the ocean we then have a one-way filter to make sure the hopefully the water doesn't come back in and we have a fluid filter valve which should only allow fluid out and not our compressed air I think pretty sure I hope that's how it works and then of course we have our you know our fluid filter that expels the fluid and that is what we're doing we don't have any pumps on here to expel the water it's all going to be compressed air and hopefully this works let's dive okay so we hit the floor and we have compressed air we have fluid of 9,278 I'm going to press the evacuate button hopefully everything works let's see okay we're starting to evacuate the water compressed air is going down um it seems to be about the same speed as before for maybe I don't know I didn't time it but we're not using any pumps if you put for some reason if you put a filter on a pump it just strangulates the flow and I'm not too sure why that is but it does so here you can see it's evacuating I guess it's going a lot slower actually I think it's about probably about the same as the pumps yeah I think the air filters strangulate or the not just air filters filters in general in this game strangulate the pipe I I guess the idea is that it's like physically trying to filter out only water physically trying to only filter out the gas but I don't know it just seems like a little too slow so that is a problem so if you're building a submarine you put filters on to make sure that water's not coming in you get your pumps and your pipes strangulated and as you can see it is barely flowing out the compressed air now G this sucks all right so I think think this proves the final point that I want to make which is don't use filters on your submarines we're going to have to try to figure out how to do it where we have enough compressed air or we use pumps because the pumps will keep pumping regardless of the amount of compressed air you have left and that will get everything out without trying to filter out water versus Air and that's probably better for your submarine at least that's what I'm going to do with mine so I'll have the small pumps probably and just get everything out and then use compressed air as the main thing to get the water out relatively quick and also I can use compressed air on a logic uh block to say if you don't have enough compressed air you know we're not going to turn on the pumps I mean we're not going to say that but we're not going to turn on the pumps to evacuate the uh the water from your balance tanks and so you'll you'll be screwed if you don't have compressed air in your tanks regardless of how much they are used it's kind of like helping the simulation of a submar so anyways that is it for for the day I just wanted to go ahead and give this a test because I was working on the submarine and I was like is this working the way I think it's working or is it not working so far I think it's roughly kind of working but not with filters anyway let me know if you have any other ideas or if you think I did something wrong let me know so I know what I did wrong so I don't do it on my submarine and uh I'll see you next time [Music] 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Channel: EndoSkull Gaming

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Keywords: Stormworks, submarine, game mechanics, compressed air, ballast tanks, surfacing, submerging, game update, water expulsion, one-way valves, air tanks, pressure, fluid flow, experimentation, game modification, realistic gameplay, underwater, ocean, depth, buoyancy, air pumps, atmospheric pressure, game testing, game improvement, EndoSkull Gaming, stormworks gameplay, stormworks build and rescue, stormworks sinking ship

Id: JJd1BdZMK5c

Length: 30min 47sec (1847 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 19 2023