Is Her Sister's Husband Her Daughter's Father? (Marathon) | Paternity Court

Mr Griffin you were a married man who had a 2-year affair with your wife's stepsister the defendant you say that relationship produced a daughter but miss Richmond claims you are not her daughter's biological father is that correct yes y your other daughter Lisha is here to support your claim Miss Richmond you admit to the affair with Mr gri but say you are positive the plaintive is not your daughter's biological father and you plan to prove that in court today is that correct that is correct your honor and so how do you end up having an affair with your sister's husband not thinking just being wild at that time of my age and just not just not caring about anything I can admit to that I'm trying to fix it for her now Mr Griffin I have to ask you now I mean you a married man and it's bad enough enough you sleeping around outside the marriage but your wife's sister that was an honest honest mistake you H but uh at the same wait now it wasn't no mistake in identity you knew it was your wife sister no I'm talking about about me doing what I did was it an honest mistake or a dishonest mistake dishonest mistake how long did this mistake it lasted I'd say about 2 years two years I know yeah I know yeah this wasn't no mistake this was a decision exactly okay hey so so for two years you were sleeping with your wife's sister yes regularly yes often very often without protection without protection Lord you should be able to be alone with your sister's husband and not sleep with him or him not sleep with you but how are you all spending this much time where this type of relationship could develop cuz he was taking me home from when I used to go over to their house to visit my steps sister and stuff how long had you been married at the time Mr Griffin I'm still about 10 years so you all had known each other for an extended amount of time oh this is All in the Family All in the Family yna I was in love so I thought that I thought what I thought was love back in them that time oh cuz you had worked yourself that you in love with him yes your honor I think that's what why I chose to tell him first before anyone else that he was the father we slept together more unprotected than I did with the other je and when you told him what was his response do you remember as I remember he said yes right off uh he came over to my house and he picked her up and he went up on the stairs and he you know put her up to the light and he said yeah she could be mine and that was the last we ever discussed her really seriously that's the last you discussed her paternity of him seeing her actually of me and him talking about her being never seen yeah I've never that's because she left hold on Miss I'm coming to I'm coming to that part I'm Miss Richmond TAA you're asserting in court today that you have not seen Mr Griffin I've seen him one time when I was like 14 but in your life in my life I spoke to him to the first time on the phone like the other week I never that's because I didn't that 30 years I've been knowing that she's my daughter so you've never had a doubt never had a doubt in 30 years in 30 years I did tell him that I was pregnant but also I did tell him he was the father but at the time he also knew I was you know with other people also and he was a married man so and I'm sure he was with other people too so I was with two other guys so you were admitting that at the window during the window of conception you were also sleeping with two other men yes your honor did you tell those men you were pregnant as well no your honor no why did you only choose to tell Mr Griffin Mr Griffin was the one I was with mostly all the time mostly so that's why you know it only takes once though right yes ma'am her mother's saying there is doubt and you not how can you be so sure got photos here when I was young and she she was young Jerome let me let me see that and because if if it wasn't my daughter what would the reason come she come and tell me that she was pregnant were you with her all during the pregnancy no we was never together you weren't together when during the pregnancy after I got pregnant we never had too much contact cuz I got into a relationship with another gentl you didn't want to come over while you were pregnant with his child we didn't hardly see each other she was trying to hide it from a step sister so Mr Griffin how did you tell your wife that you got her sister pregnant I didn't cuz I was too embarrassed until I you know had did that you know so ta I want to hear from you right cuz I want to understand at what point did you find out um like the first time someone brought his name up was like um my mom never brought his name up and then we went to Albany when I was in the third grade and my aunt and my cousins say oh you look just like the Griffins you look just like the Griffins that's like what everybody always say you look just like those Griffins I'm like who is the Griffin she's like oh no those not your people that's not your dad I don't know my mom when people ask me who's my dad I always said my whole life I don't have a dad I don't know my dad I don't have a name my mom never told me a name how hard is that as a young woman growing up it's just sad and then I always have to hear stupid stories now about some old 70s triangle love triangle like I it's just stupid wow your family there there your links there are your pieces to your puzzle when you figure out who you are as a child exactly I I mean without that I can imagine that you did feel like you didn't know where you came from I'm sorry about that too cuz I was very selfish for years and I didn't want to deal with my past but I wasn't thinking about your life and I'm sorry probably when I was like in high school I got a message on MySpace can you remember Myspace I sure do I was on it but I remember I got a message on MySpace from uh Lea just a long little thing saying I think you're my sister and I'm just like uh like who is this girl so and wait so when you first got the message were you overwhelmed with emotion or did you feel like it was a prank what what were you thinking I I just thought she was crazy because of what my mom say oh because your mom had told I knows what my mom say so miss Griffin Lisha I want to hear from you you reached out to TAA I did and what made you do that well I was in my dad's room one day cuz my sisters was taking up the other Mir so I was in there doing my hair and after I got done and I'm getting all my hair supplies out his room and stuff you know I'm straightening up his dresser and I see some mail from Jackson County child support and I begin to look at it and I've seen her name ta's name after that I decided to look her up on my space so I could see what she looked like ever been told about TAA yes who told you about her my mother she just kind of mentioned that we had another sister but I didn't know what her name was so miss Richmond how did Mr Griffin end up with child support papers if you said he was not the father okay I'm getting ready to explain that to you your honor when I moved to Wisconsin with her when she was almost two and we that I took the we took a paternity test at that time okay I went on and did the child support and she told me that that well the test proves that he's not the father so do you have another name to give me so you were told you were told he was not the father yes all right now I want to jump over to you Mr Griffin do you remember submitting to this DNA testing years ago do and from from my knowledge that that I got the papers saying I was the father you got the papers and they said that you were the father yes so you're saying you got paperwork from from one DNA test you got paperwork that says you were the father and Richmond you got paperwork that says he was not exactly and I also I've been hearing that for about eight years this stupid because when I looked I said mom there's no record of that DNA exactly that's what they hold on so now the plot thickens why would I get child support paper I don't know why jackon County would lie when we call they said they cannot I try to get just said right over there that that she had the test done yeah I took the test hold on family hold on yes your honor yes wow this is complicated all I know is I believe the other people better than believe in them when I call them they said that they do not have a test they said that um we took ours but he did not show up to take his that's what they said and that's I don't know that's what and listen listen that in and of itself is why even at 32 years old it is important for you to be in this courtroom today amen from that very piece of testimony you just said I want to move forward because I want to understand in your court papers uh TAA you mentioned that one of the reasons you were prompted to get down to the bottom of this was because of the loss of your husband correct one of the other sisters Griffin sisters um her wedding was uh May 21st 2011 and she invited me and my husband and my husband believed I looked like some of the other sisters so he was like yeah we should go we should go and I'm like I don't know and then I like talk the other people like my sister and my mom they they like you know I don't think they're your family so why would you go all the way to Michigan to a wedding so we did not go and that was the day he died a so sorry and um he was a firefighter I loved him to death and he drowned um so I mean I just I was just so sad he drowned in in the line of duty yeah if you go and make in Georgia they rename the area after him on Lake tasaki to the Michael Jones fishing area so that's nice and um so basically her wedding day is Mike death dat so if we would have went maybe he would have been alive I'm sorry you don't have to apologize it's okay you don't have to apologize and you don't have to feel guilty okay no I'm sorry I just want to talk about my husband I understand talk about I understand it's okay sorry you don't have to apologize what what I'm here to make you understand and I'm hoping that I can is that this guilt that you feel first of all I want to say it's normal I have lost my mother and I probably Replay that day it's been 10 years and I still replay the day if if I would have took the 12:00 flight instead of the 5:00 flight and everything that I could have done in between that is natural but what I see here is even another layer to this that because of that lack of security because of that feeling of disconnection all of these feelings I believe are compounding who what your natural grief process would be and that's where our paternity issues they begin to Anchor us down they weigh us down so that we can't move forward and that's why it's important that we come here to get this resolve today I think it's time to get some answers yes before I go to these results Mr Griffin I want you to look across the aisle right now this is a woman you say this is your daughter yes I believe yes I truly believe well to me you haven't been in this courtroom acting like much of a father and I want you to turn to your daughter right now if you believe this is your daughter and I'd like for you to tell the court how you feel and more importantly how you recognize what she feels well I'm sorry for your husband and I wish I had have been there for you and I I'm sorry for not being there for you listen I do believe you have a level of regret you come from a generation where where I'm sure there was a level of well just let well enough alone some people believe that we hear those stories in this courtroom where when things get away from us or people move on you don't want to disrupt maybe what the new family structure is and you feel like well let me just play my part and state of the back but what I do want you to understand is as this young woman stands here and talks about what she's dealt with for 32 years I want you to honor the part you had to play in that hurt because that is important for her healing as well I'm ready for the results these results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows in the case of Griffin versus Richmond when it comes to 32-year-old TAA Richmond it has been determined by this court Mr Griffin you are not her father 32 years of thinking you were This Woman's father I'm just going to have to help her find it cuz I got names for her so whatever I got to do to find a father I'm just going to have to continue okay go you still my sister thank you for that Mr Whistler you claim you currently owe almost $21,000 in back child support for the defendant son a young man you believe may not be yours yes your honor you say your paycheck is garnished each week leaving you only $70 yes you're honor today's results prove you are not the young man's father you plan to return to your home state to get this enormous debt erased yes your honor Miss Frasier you admit you've always known the plth may not be your son's biological father but acknowledge he's been held financially responsible for him yes you are yet regardless of whether or not today's results prove he's the father you say he really just needs to get over it that's joh no Mr Whistler we're here today to get this settled once and for all I've been waiting well tell me why you doubt paternity uh because your honor uh we was in a relationship and about 2000 late 2005 she comes to me and tells me she's pregnant and uh I always ask her are you pure it is mine you had doubts from the beginning yes ma'am I had a torsion that uh you know the doctor said right there no you're unable to have children so the doctors told you you weren't yes able to have children due to a medical condition yes your honor okay and now I've got this bill $21,000 they're wanting me to pay for somebody else never asked child support from you I never asked them to get child support from you ever uh never yes you wouldn't go down and take care of this like a young lady down there you can look at the paperwork always said the other guy's name uh-huh yeah okay well we're going to find out today we are going to find out today the honest to God's truth 18 years that I've been living through this excuse my language please be respectful in the court sir so miss Fraser when you found out you were pregnant did you tell Mr Whistler it was his child I told him I was pregnant and he told me it wasn't his and the other guy that you say you always put his name on all the Pap all the paperwork this other guy sign the certificate what about the birth certificate wanted to you told me you told me if I wanted that kid to have my last name and I wouldn't claim him I would be there for the birth and I was there that's your last name and then uh it come out a little while later that uh you had been sleeping with this other man all this time at 6 months you knew yeah at six months after birth after the fact so mler yeah and you did sign the I can't go on with my life now you did sign the birth certificate am I correct yes your honor I did and you claim that not until the child was 6 months old were you told that there could be a question regarding the paternity yes your honor so take me back to that time how did she tell you this she told straight up yes it could be this other man's because he was proud to have a son and not denying it like you he should be standing up if it's his kid he should be standing up for it why am I reliable to pay this over $221,000 when I was working were taking most of my paycheck I've never given it to me I ain't got no child support one you never received any child support from the state of Missouri I think you are hold on Mr Whistler Mr Whistler what is the evidence you keep holding up this may I see that please the letter I received from the child enforcement of the state of Missouri just about two weeks ago your honor but they're not giving it to me I've never received child Sport and you know I just don't add up this letter from the state of Missouri indicates total pass due support $2,850 56 and I have paid no telling how much already on this child and so you say the other man may be the father yes your honor so did he ever pay child support no I've never gotten any no at all were you receiving assistance from the state uh food stamps okay so if you were getting assistance from the state they're going to then follow up with the Father the legal father of record and I am lucky to pay them back the money on the paper on the paper so who did you tell the state uh on the state I mean on the paper had ask if there is anybody else who could be a biological father and I've always put down the other guy's name always did you put down Mr whistler's name too that was the name on the birth certificate but Mr Whistler because you signed the birth certificate under the law you are the legal father yes your honor did you understand that when you were signing that birth certificate that day yes your honor I certainly did but I was to the impression it was my child there was no other ifs ands or buts about it it was mine and now here $21,000 later in debt and and so you brought a witness I'd like to hear ma'am please stand if you want more episodes of paternity court make sure to subscribe and click on the notification Bell missley thank you for joining us your relationship to Mr Whistler is fiance what do you know about this situation I've been doing some research um that's what I have here on child support jome will you hand me that evidence please what do you come after her and this evidence is is presented to prove what exactly Miss Oley the penalty for lack of Child Support so your concern is your fiance could go to jail exactly for failure to pay child support yes um you know I don't know if there's going to be a knock at the door you know come get him take him away because he owes the back child support and I've seen them take people for less than the $21,000 I seen them go for5 $6,000 and it's just not right you know for me to be in this position because of this lady here and yet you signed the birth certificate willingly yes yes you know I was in the under the impression that I would could have been the only person that could have been this child's father you signed that birth certificate because you believed at that time it was your child yes your honor because that's what Miss Frasier told you and never told you there was the other person yes your honor until about 6 months later after the child was already here and you had already signed the birth certificate yes your honor I even went as far as after the child was born a couple weeks I went to my boss and asked her for the money to loan me to get her a ring and I proposed to this lady and uh she uh took the ring and said not right now and put the ring on her finger and I'm here today to finally see that this is taken care of after 18 years we are here and I still got to go back to the state of Missouri and hire someone before I go to jail because Dallas is almost 18 now yes you're however you have all of these aers that are still adding up yes your honor and you could go to jail for failure to pay child support yes you're right your honor Dallas is now 18 years old yes he is yes your honor have you tried to develop any type of relationship yes your honor numerous times I have traveled over 300 miles to come and see him and I would call that's your convenience I would call and uh ask Miss frer could I come at by and see Dallas when I get there uh sure then when I would get up there on my way over I would call and say I'm on my way oh we're somewhere else we ain't at home we can't do it today we have Vibes change for 10-minute visit understanding that I had called previously and asked you did I or did I not no you won't let me take him nowhere and he refuses to go because you got him brainwashed is there a reason why you wouldn't allow him to see Mr Whistler for all those years gr up growing up yeah because I mean he he never he not once changed his diaper never not even once I was at work during the day I was at home you were out messing around how can I do that when I was raising two kids all by myself so were you aware Miss Frasier that all of these years he's been on the hook and responsible for child support I've tried to get them over and over numerous times to test the other man and so cuz I can't afford to pay for it and I've tried to get them to do it and they have never done it so I pay for it until no I hav't asked for nothing from you I have never asked for anything from you no you haven't the state of Missouri okay there you go that's not me yeah it is the same thing as you no it's not for lying to me this whole time Mr wler you submitted to the court pictures and you feel like Dallas looks like you in many ways yes yor and I think there's a lot of resemblance and so if he is your son I will step develop a relationship yes your honor I certainly do I will step up to the plate and do I have to do to take care of this $21,000 that I am in debt but Rome I think it's time we meet Dallas Can you esort him in [Applause] Please Mr Whistler thank you for joining us today um you realize why we're here yes and so I have to ask you directly do you believe Mr Whistler is your biological father uh I would as I was growing up I did believe he was my father but I was always told that it could be somebody else you were yes always told yes she was which is consistent with your mother's testimony that there she always tried to list another the other person have you ever met this other man yes I have you have do you refer to him as Dad um I did one time but that was just to get his attention okay do you have a relationship with that man not anymore and how about Mr Whistler do you refer to him as your dad yes all the time all the time yes you know you're a young man and just 18 years old and this must be very difficult for you were you aware of the circumstances Mr Whistler testified to that he's been paying child support and been responsible for child support for you you know he's owning your birth certificate right you do know that listed as your father yes your honor and yet for most of your life you understood that it could be someone else yes and nothing's been done about that for 18 years she has tried to but Missouri has not uh answered anything that she has tried to tell them or ever tried to change the birth certificate so you have personally witnessed firsthand your mother make the attempt to change your birth certificate uh I've seen her try to get the other guy listed as the father now why Miss Frasier would you change the birth certificate to be the other guy when you don't know for certain if it's him either so that the state wouldn't be going after him okay so you I've never yeah I've never felt that he should have to pay the child support and because it's it wasn't right here I am stuck with this $21,000 debt still but I've tried to keep them from doing it you know this does not make Mr wiler I have to inform you because you signed the birth certificate you may still be responsible for that $21,000 I understand depending on today's results you will have the opportunity to return to your home state um and see if perhaps there is a way you can get that $21,000 debt erased however there are no guarantees yes your honor I understand this but if Dallas is your biological son understand then you are rightfully responsible for that debt I certainly am okay I love this young man with all of my heart and always have and and always will and I'm here today to get the final answers well I have answers for you Jerome the [Applause] envelope these results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows in the case of Whistler V Frasier when it comes to the paternity of Mr Dallas Whistler Mr Whistler you are not his father that that still is not going to change my love for you and wanting to spend time with you I love you too I am a man of my word I just thank you your honor for and now I can go back and try to get this resolved you need to seek legal counsel when you return to your home state yes ma'am with the understanding that there are no guarantees that that debt will be erased because you are on the birth certificate and you signed it voluntarily yes but at least now you have the truth this has been a difficult situation I Can See For All of You adults and yet my concern really is with you Dallas are you okay yes you are are you okay because you always knew there was a possibility yes I am your honor okay well Mr Whistler obviously has a lot of love for you and I'm hoping you are a man of your word and you continue to love and support this young man I I most definitely will your honor Miss Meyers uh you have brought your mother Miss madgal to court today because you claim she has no idea who your biological father is you say your mother gave you a list of 13 possible men and you are hoping to determine who your father is today the court has located two of the 13 men and has already ordered paternity tests to be at ad ministered Miss magical you admit to having a laundry list of potential fathers but hope today answers your daughter's life long question now misss Myers what were the circumstances that started your search for your biological father when I was 13 years old I had a father figure in my in my life and he died it at that age and you know when he died I needed closure I needed somebody to be there and so at 13 years old how did you find out that there were potentially 13 different men that could be your father the list came from my mom telling me over approximately a year maybe a little longer she would always just say you know here's a name here's a name you know and I think to her it seemed like it was a joke okay Miss magical as you're giving your daughter this list and I do not mean this in a joking way right you couldn't narrow it down from 13 know uh the 13 that she's naming it's like 13 ghost fabricated what about what about pick any man in Seattle you made so where does this pick any man in Seattle hold on cuz any any friend that she met of mine a guy friend she'd ask him were they her father really are you serious so my thing is when said she say oh is he my dad I'll say I don't know it could be anybody in Seattle since she thinks that's what it is absolutely could be this guy right here raised upon see Miss Myers in your statement you say that your life without a father has been extremely difficult please explain I feel lost you know I feel confused I don't know who I am I don't know my Heritage I don't know what I'm completely mixed with I don't know where I came from I don't know nothing came from me I know you're half of the family but that's only half stse matters can no man raise me better than you can even though it doesn't even matter so save it you ra me oh I raised you no you you weren't even there so anyway Miss Myers you claimed that you left home when you were 15 years old yeah I did why is that why I didn't want to be around her I you didn't get along to this degree even when you were 15 years old worse than this this is even worse than this the only reason why I'm even somewhat civil with her is because I have an ex that used to preach to me all the time about having to be with be close to my mom and I wanted to be right with God so therefore right forgot God she won't even allow that's a good one use God you damn devil use God I'm the devil you're the devil you're the devil do you realize that you just stood in this court and called your daughter a devil basically cuz all this is unnecessary it's all unnecessary it really is all this is is for her to Fig find out what she wants to no that's what matters all the rest of this knocking me making me out to be some kind of and all that it needs to stop do you feel like all your life the way it has turned out the situation you find yourself in your relationship with your mother is this all because you didn't have that father in your life that you wanted or that you didn't know your father like I didn't have a mother and I felt like I didn't have a father you got to understand I didn't have to have you I chose to have you all four so don't that that takes us back to determining who your father is that's right because in this dance we at least know it does take two to tango yeah so miss magical you do admit that there were multiple partners at the time that Miss Myers was conce course but you got to realize I was 17 so any calculation within that time I could have been way off and not known because by the time I found out I was 4 months pregnant with her you see what I'm saying so there could be a list of whomever it's the timing it's in the timing okay the list that is also missing out of my diary really Monica the that you fabricated the 13 ghost you got in the book where's it at it's gone you know ask your brother ask your brother your brother had that B that diary you're holding up that's my diary that I've had since I was 13 years old that's where I started my list is in that and all of a sudden my pages are missing hold on she had to bring it out here okay we've got to figure out whether two of the men that the court is identified is in fact um Miss Meyer's father your statement to the court says that you've met the two out of the 13 that the court has administered test to Mr Keith mccraine and a Mr Derek smithh you smiled M at one or both of those names it's a evil smile and a happy smile an evil smile and a happy smile well who's the evil smile for Keith Keith so I take it we don't care for him I don't like him I hate him with a passion did you see why do you feel that way he's just inappropriate with me when I'm at the airport he's talking about how sexy I am but you are you're beautiful so I mean what's that maybe a compliment a compliment oh girl you are so sexy he me look how pretty you are I mean save that don't do that I'll tell you what we're going to meet Mr mccraine so please uh come to the witness stand here and sit with me and Drome if you could please please step out and uh get the witness for me Mr Keith mccraine and his daughter Carmen oh great wow I cannot believe what I just heard like for real Mr McAn um thank you for coming to join us and submitting to the paternity testing I want to ask you first you do know Miss Meyer's Mom miss magical yes I did please State how you met her you know we got together she came over she told me she thought I was sexy whatever goodlooking okay we had sex it was a three minute thing you know 3 minutes 3 minutes she confirmed [Applause] it he swore to tell the truth and nothing but the truth okay so how did you find out that Miss magal was pregnant I did not know she was pregnant your honor um I'm walking downtown Seattle where we live uh I see her and the baby at the fountain I said oh cute baby who is she she said my daughter and you giggle yes yes why I couldn't believe it you know 3 minutes I understand it doesn't take that but so you that it was your 3 Minutes of Fame that had gotten her there well where you H her uh I also found out I also found out your honor that when she left my house she went to another man's house and the same thing happened the same day that was the plan in the first place the same day this wasn't planned and I weren't planned that's what I'm saying my friend was me the same friend was at my house was at his house that's how I know it was the same day right okay so when is the first time you remember meeting Mr mccraine I was 13 and I was going into 14 now your mother Miss magical stated that you spent the weekend at one of his girlfriend's house I stayed the night over with him and his girlfriend and her kids come to find out that one of her kids was his child but that she was in question at the time and they had to be tested years later I'll never forget I told my mom I said you've got to be kidding me this is I said Mom this ugly is my dad now wait a minute she was much younger she was much you may not watch your language around your mother but you got to watch your language in this court now that's inappropriate and disrespectful Mr your daughter is here and and and Miss Vernon you have held on like I've asked you to but I want to understand from you why you feel so strongly about Miss Myers okay well as far as Monica's concern she's talking about oh he's this and he's that well if that's the case then how come you got his picture on Facebook with you and your mom talking about oh yeah well is this person my dad and blah blah blah Did he's such a bad guy then why would you even put him on Facebook and say oh yeah him of what he really good father you wen't even in Carmen's life I don't want nothing to do with him his family her she done started all this problems where her family got got her cousins trying to fight me they did they've all treated her bad and you admit they did keth they did nobody wanted to claim her but claim all your other possible kids I know you are upset with her with what she maybe posted on Facebook about your father because like I told her when I talked to her I was like that's just ratchetness that is just SC some scandalous stuff yes it's ratchet it's ratchet but besides you know these if there3 possibil possib let's get it together these guys everybody's attacking me like I'm the one that was laying down sleeping with people I'm the one that was made Miss Myers okay understand I one that was Miss Myers Miss Myers look at me look at me I understand you're hurt there's not a person sitting in here today that could imagine being in your position tell me what you feel no I don't know why you're crying because I shouldn't have to go through this I'm 26 years old with my own kids it doesn't matter CU I'm your mom and I'm your daddy that's what I've been so care M you can save it you can save it you can tell the people what you want they don't live in my shoes I raised you and I raised you right so all this other doesn't even matter I would die for you so stop the rest Miss magal you're very emotional as well nobody first of all don't attack my child and I know you guys don't mean it you guys are upset too it's my child we realize now that Mr mccraine is not the man that you would like to be your father ultimately no uh we do have another gentleman here that has also submitted to the paternity testing and at this time time the court would like to hear from him Drome if you could please escort uh Mr Derek Smith in and Mr mccraine and Miss Vernon feel free to have a seat thank you thank you there Mr Smith how are you today I'm doing pretty good thank you for joining us we're really glad that you could be here today and we appreciate you submitting to the DNA testing um because this court realizes that you are one of two men here today that we've identified that could potentially be Miss Meyer's father and um you do know that there still could potentially be 11 more per Miss Meyer statement yes I do and now how did you come to meet or have a relationship with Miss madal U around the age 19 to 20 we had a brief encounter of sex and then uh one day I seen Samantha and she gave me a baby picture and told me that you're possibly the father of this child and then I did not see her for quite a long time after that one day I was coming out of a building and Samantha drove up with Monica in the back seat and said there there's your dad right there no that first of all first of all I didn't walk up to you the picture you seen her and asked me was that your child cuz of her eyes you did that don't do that you couldn't even remember where it happened that's what's so funny that's because it was so brief and you were so fast you know yeah whatever was just I was so fast you all over the place Samantha and you know it that's why they were what 13 maybe you were DJ Quick my friend you couldn't keep it that's your problem you were just too you could remember where it was the conversation back to the issue at hand which is Miss Meyers when you came in you hugged tell me a little bit about that how have you developed a relationship well uh I talked to her on the phone a lot and I even helped her move into her new home and I've met her children we've had a good relationship he's been everything that I want as a father do you do feel it's a possibility that you could be your father I mean we I think we look a lot alike do you see the resemblance do you see it I see it we both have big foreheads kind of you know I think we've heard enough ladies and gentlemen uh it's time to find out the results it is let's find out remember there have been two men that have been tested and we have 11 others in question but it very well may be that one of these two gentlemen could be your father so Jerome if you please hand me the envelope the first one so this is to see if Mr Derek Smith is in fact the father of Ms Meyers I know you're hoping that he in fact is the DNA test results show that Mr Smith you are not Monica's father I never thought I'd have to hear that I still love you though that's okay I promise not still I'll be there for you whatever whatever you need I'll be there for you I still love you for real how do you feel Miss Myers scared terrified right now cuz I it cannot be him Mr Smith if you could take a seat and uh Mr mccraine please step to the podium thank you Jerome please hand me the second envelope thank you when it comes to miss Monica Meyers Mr Keith mccraine it has been determined by this court that you are the father there it is did you faint Mr mccraine I don't believe that at all at all they must have got their test mixed up or something backstage there's no way they must have got their test mixed up or something I don't that at all thank you for coming back in Miss Myers I know you're upset I hate him I hate his family can I say something can I please Monica regardless to whatever Keith has been through in 26 years Keith wasn't always gone through what he's gone through you think I just jump in there with anybody ugmo or something come on Keith was one of the finest people in that family has rejected me so much that there's no rekindling what they the pain they've caused for me I don't deserve none of this I didn't deserve it from the gy I recognize that you have been a victim I had to do but it's your choice as to whether you continue to be one now you came here for an answer it wasn't the answer you want it but you got the answer and from the way it looks from my vantage point you've got four people in your life right now that have said to you our hearts and our doors are still open for this girl still they were never open but they are now for real what' you say to me at the airport hey sexy else I said else she say to me all time okay go ahead well Miss Meyers he might not have meant a sexual undertone or energy behind that word he might have just meant to say you look beautiful today and that's something you've got to learn as a man now that you are a father of girls yes and you've got to fix that I'm going try you've got to find out what's appropriate and inappropriate and you got to take heed are you you understanding me yes I do all right now going forward it's up to you all to clean this up Miss Cochran you are here to prove that Mr Burch is the biological father of your 23-month-old son unai you state that you have had a romantic relationship with Mr Burch since 2009 and his paternity denial makes you Furious yes your honor Mr bur you claim that Miss Cochran and you never had a relationship and were only friends with benefits uh you say that you were not having sex with her during the window of conception and are here to prove you are not the father is that correct yes your honor Miss Cochran a 7-year relationship and he's denying your baby why your honor he's denying my son because he doesn't want the responsibility of another child nor does Mr Birch want to pay child support that's why I believe he's denying our child your honor we only had a Friends with Benefits since we first started and I made it clear to her I made it clear to her that's what I wanted from the beginning I understand that Mr Burch only wanted friends with benefits and I was fine with that and I understood that Mr Burch did not want any more children and I was fine with that but it is said and done now I'm here today to let him know that this is his child and I would appreciate if he step up and take care of him so wait a minute let take me back to the nature of this relationship now you say it's friends with benefits and do you agree is that what it was that's what it's always been your honor it's always been that how many years seven years you're honor seven years seven years of no commitment no commit just being friends just being friends and having sex and having sex unprotected sex unprotected sex no your honor that's that's not true what's the truth then according to you at the times we would have sex she was actually bringing the condoms to me so you were using protection no ma'am that is not true we did not start using protection until after I was pregnant I have to ask you this Miss Cochran why were you having unprotected sex with Mr bir when you knew this was just a Friends with Benefits because in the beginning of the Friendship uh it started out as friends with benefits and as the years progressed the Friendship turned more into a relationship for the both of us at one point we were supposed to relocate to another city and we were going to be in a relationship I was uprooting my children he was going to uproot his children for us to move to a different city for him asked me to be in a relationship and I told her I wasn't ready your honor you didn't have a plan to relocate together and be in a relationship did you have another girlfriend or someone else you were dating during all this time your honor he had five other women at this time that I'm I know of and in the beginning relationship like I said we were together every day except for Saturday when he had me under the impression he was going back to his hometown to spend the night with his mother five other women and five other women only she only thought she only thought had women lived with him your honor there was multiple women outside of the five that I wasn't aware of wait a minute how are you living at he was living with five women at the same time or you mean during the course of the years the course of the years I was about to say no so living with other women how do you think that you're going to be in a relationship with him because it didn't start out like that your honor the women came after he relocated back to his hometown is when I got knowledge of the other women honor actually what she would do is ride past my house every time not want reloc she would see a car she would see a car sitting in front of my house and she would assume oh she lived with you that's or or or she would assume that a car was for someone that that lives there or someone that was there and and it could be from somebody from down the street your honor me and this man have been in a friendship for many years we've been through many different locations together I pretty much know what cars belong and which cars don't yes I did ride by his house initially in the beginning because I didn't know what he was doing Mr Birch told me don't ride by my house no more I told him to quit having other women over there or just tell me about them he had me under the impression that as long as I was loving him and giving him sex the way that he wanted I had nothing to worry about and I believed it I'm a woman I get it sometimes you just look love someone and it doesn't turn out the way you want and I can see the tears in your eyes right now when you can barely even look at him because you still love him now he's my friend he's my friend and uh after today either we're going to get stronger or we're going to remain what we've been that's just how I see it I've Mr bir is the first man I ever loved hopefully he's not the last he was my first man that I ever loved I felt like because he was a little older that he was a little bit more mature but I come to find out over the years that older men are just as sneaky as younger men but I never snuck anything towards her I I was honest with her the whole time h honesty is not in his policy your honor he was never honest he was honest that he didn't want to have a relationship he was honest about not H wanting to have a relationship he was honest about not wanting to have any more children but he was dishonest about a lot of things your honor I'm trying to understand this in woman speak he told you we have this friendship but I'm not really ready for a relationship but we have a friendship with benefits and you felt like if you're going to get involved with somebody and be with somebody else then at least let me know because you know I'm here and I am thinking that you're going to get in position to be in a relationship one day and when you do that it would be with me and that's what the Assumption was your honor okay cuz I'm not understanding why you have yourself so far out there for a man that keeps telling you he doesn't want to be in a relationship with you and he's constantly with other women so when you would see these other women you would be offend never seen other any other Wom after a year no until after a year later okay when I was riding up the street and he was coming out with another lady and his family members informed me that that was his girlfriend and I asked him who she was he said it was his high school sweetheart that he had rekindled things with I asked him then how can you be in a relationship with her when I just asked you four months ago to be in a relationship with me and he said he wasn't ready then but he was ready now I was okay with him having a girlfriend because I didn't feel the effects of her she lived in another city him and I lived in the same city and I was still with him every day but Saturday and when he left for work because he's on the road every day but Saturday every day but Saturday I don't get it we weren't together on Tuesdays or Thursdays or Sunday nights that's not but you still were carrying on a sexual relationship with her when you had this girlfriend in the other City don't lie that would be a yes were you just playing this girl Mr no I was not did you know how much she cared about you yes I did know that to me she's made it so obvious no she's made it so obvious though look I always say when you know a woman loves you if you don't want to be bothered with that woman then why are you coming over and having sex with her more than one time in a week you know that only fuels the love she has for you and and makes her think there's a possibility I never made think it was a possibility that's not true I was honest with her the whole time that's not true your honor the timing is all the way off so you're saying she was already pregnant when she told you yes that's not true your honor Mr bir is delusional and he's not telling the truth I went to Tennessee the morning I left in Tennessee she said I had sex with you and I had sex with with him the the the night the night after and I'm like huh I I was like shocked like really did you tell him you had sex with somebody else as well miss cochr I sure enough did your you did I sure enough dead after the baby was born she completely just just forgot about him oh you're the dad your I'm like what what about him you told me about him and you admit to that yes your honor so why are you just bringing him to court to prove that he's the father because your honor if I may submit to the court Ron please get her evidence' thank you uh so you're submitting a calendar to the court what does this calendar outline uh on the 5th of October your honor that was my girlfriend's birthday from California and Mr bur had text me wanting to see me and I was on the other line with her and I said my old man's texting me and I'm about to go see him and she said don't give in to him you're being a mashed potato so because I did go there and I had sex with Mr bir that night I wrote on the calendar so that way my best friend and my mother would not know that I had went back to Mr Birch and had sex with him again so I wrote mashed potato you know what I don't know why she didn't write brought Magnum condoms with me cuz we didn't use no condoms your honor she brought she brought condoms the whole that whole month the following week on the 12th your honor I was with him that Friday night up until that Saturday morning when he left I was supposed to go with him on vacation huh two 3 days before it was time to go where I he informed me that I wasn't able to go because there not there wasn't no room in the cabin I fell for it and believed it never told and and he went on during the time that he was gone a family member sent me pictures and videos of a bear being on their porch and in the silhouette I seen a female that I've known Mr bur to be encountering and I decided then that he wasn't alone and I wasn't going to be either and that's when I decided to have sex with another man so you know that you had sex with the other man when on the 13th so you're admitting that you had sex with Mr Burch on the 12th the other man on the 13th yes ma'am the 12th after I had a more inclusive ultrasound they pinpointed my conception date and they believe that I conceived between October 2nd and October 8th I was with Mr they gave you a window of conception yes ma'am okay got you so I'd like to hear from your witness ma'am step to the podium and state your name for the court Andrea Brandon hello Miss Brandon what would you like to add what do you know about this situation I I know tion he's I'm not going to sit here and badmouth him he's just not a good friend he has played on her emotions since day one he knew what he was doing he has four other kids that he takes care of okay so it's not that he can't be a good father but he's not a good friend I'm a very good friend no you're not he had this woman thinking that she was uped her kids had her thinking that they were going to be together had I don't know where she got had they was going to move together I done been to the house to where y'all went together that y was going to move in together tition I don't know where she got where she get that from we went house seeeing together you got off of work she had your kids your kids fool with her even when y'all don't get alone he's lying went to go see no house together he was with you every day every day I'm not lying every day Miss Brandon what do you know about the paternity well I was there when whenever she conceived well I'm not to say I was there but I was watching her kids I was staying with her thank you Miss uh Brandon for your testimony you may be seated take me to the birth was Mr bur present no ma'am um well where was he he's such a great friend where was he he was uh he said he wasn't taking the day off so it was just me and my mother in the delivery room I called Mr Birch let him know the baby was here he said okay he hung up that was it did you list a father on the birth certificate no ma'am I have the birth certificate right here M I'd like to see that Ron can you please hand me that but I did give and Mr Burch knew that the baby was there because I called him to ask him how to spell his name so your child's full name is say it out loud uni deene Lewis Cochran and I never even heard about him being the ls Crocker that's that's something new to me I told him but he never believed it you never knew I never knew never known he didn't want to know he didn't want to believe it he didn't want to know I called him ask for the spelling he gave me the spelling and he asked me why and I said cuz I'm putting your name on his birth certificate he has my my uh my first name but not my last name though that don't make any sense to me I wanted him to sign his son's birth certificate at his own free will look that is admirable you already Birch admitted to my friend that he knew he was the father once he's seen youah 8 weeks old he's a handsome young man but if you if you look at me I'm midnight black she's like 1150 and he's like 859 yes ma'am what so I mean I'm talking about skin complexion you feel like the child's skin color doesn't indicate that you that's correct H the skin color may not match but Mr bur had asked if he could claim that skin color on his taxes oh I know that's right uhoh she straight told me no now you know that's ignorant it's you standing over here denying a baby but ask to claim them on your taxes yes I did girl I know you in love with this boy I know you are cuz you can't see nothing that's a lot of nerve it is okay so let me ask you this was that your way of saying that you knew deep down that was your child if you going to claim him on your taxes no no yes ma'am Ron I'm ready for the results these results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows in the case of Cochran versus Birch when it comes to 23mon Old unai Cochran it has been determined by this court Mr Burch you you are not the father o oh Lord Miss Crocker I apologize and I accept your apology I know there was a part of you that truly wanted this child to be his because it's just another way to be connected to the man that you love no no ma'am ma'am yes ma'am I wanted it for the children I've heard the testimony you heard the phrase Love is Blind baby you've been blind as a betsy bug up in here for 8 years you can't see that he's just not going to be with you if you all do want to be friends you have to first learn what a friend is cuz that's not what you all doing Mr poor AO you claim that the defendants Miss touche and her daughter Miss Lutz fraudulently received $150,000 in settlement money from the death of your father Ricky poro senior because Miss Lutz is not your biological sister and her mother covered up that fact yes your honor you've petitioned this court for a DNA test and hope to pursue a claim in your home state to have the money return to your family yes your honor Miss touche you are here to put an end to a more than 30-year-old feud between your family and the poor veos which started with rumors and lies about your daughter's paternity yes your honor Mr poor Veo how have you and your family been defrauded by the defendants my father was on a tugboat um working and he drowned and um accidental debt is what it said on his debt certificate that's what it was declared that's what it was it's declared as accidental debt drown so let me understand your father at the time was married to my mom me I feel the settlement was awarded to miss touche Mrs Lutz had a meeting name um her mother's touche as a maiden name of the um I have evidence right here on the birth certificate jum let me see the evidence and you submitted this birth certificate because you said originally she was named theal Miss Lutz was named the and then later on her last name was changed to Pia yes so after your father passed away you felt like she in some way affected the settlement distribution correct honor a week after my my dad was declared deceased Miss Lutz's name changed from the to my mom had to change my name because I was born a theal because she was out of wedlock my dad and her were poor they didn't have the money to be married they were poor and after he died they were already going to get my name changed and after they he died she had to have it changed so that I could get the Social Security benefits that I deserved just like Ricky did and just like brother and also your honor it was with Ricky and I's full intention on changing my daughter's name as soon as we could come up with the money to do so and also when she was born we were going to put Ricky Poo's name on there and have her last name but we were told by the hospital that legally we could not do that because we were not married four children that's out of it was a totally different time 1982 it was in 83 you do not know what the laws and regulations were at that time apparently you don't either excuse me I was there you were not my mom and my dad were separated right when he died and just living apart there was no legality to not divorced and my dad never said I was not okay Mr poor veu you brought a couple of witnesses I want to get to the first witness Miss Cortez am I correct please stand at the podium you are actually Mr pororo's senior's sister correct and so you are Mr Pororo standing here his aunt yes she never denied me either this is the first time hearing about this a few weeks ago because I have never heard that I was not a poor Veo until we got into it on Facebook he actually met my mom at MRA and begged her to let us in let us back in her life which she did and then when we were at a restaurant celebrating my brother's birthday after being in contact for a year she walks right past us at the restaurant on my brother's birthday like she didn't know us with her parents do you remember that yes oh she walked right she said on the social media site that she did not remember that and I remember it very clearly she made my brother my deceased brother cried and then she wants to post things on on on social media with my brother's PCT my deceased brother's picture when she wasn't even in his life Miss Lut Miss Lutz I need to understand from you specifically why do you think your brother is denying that you're because they filled his head with all kind of Lies you know my mother more than anything in this world she kept us together Ricky you know it's a it's a Family Feud okay it's a Family Feud it was not between me and you Ricky that was created by treated you like a son they always had were said in the family on my side my father's side and also on your side did we say I never said anything bad to you about the proos because you were a child and there was no place in that for children that was an adult situation she kept us in contact after my daddy died she didn't have to go get you for home and spend let us spend we together direct your comments to the court I want to understand this why do you think this is happening I have no clue I loved Ricky with all my heart and the fact that he would even question me and him being brother and sister kills me because I look just like my daddy if anybody looks like my daddy I look just like my daddy I have a lot of anger for the peros my daddy side the family because when he my daddy passed away they passed away they basically were out of my life for Good by their own choice so let me understand and that up until a certain part of your life you were included in the family up until my daddy died accepted yes as proo yes ma'am absolutely until how old until my daddy passed away at 5 they were fine with us being a proo they didn't say anything before but after my mom received money they wanted to say oh we're not their grandchildren anymore we're not his child not true yes it is the reason uh as far as them separating my brother and Laura is that my brother walked in on her having oh my God how would you know something like that your honor I'd like to explain that lie it was told by my brother I was 21 years old Dawn you you just need to stop lying and be done with that you're honor this is exactly what happened okay when Ricky and I first met that I was somewhere around 16 years old I mean we just clicked immediately he's a handsome good-looking Italian man I just couldn't help myself I fell in love with him after a couple of days we started seeing each other for a while and it was just him and I just us together things were great I got pregnant I was almost 18 years old I got pregnant things started going a little downhill from there because he started showing signs of jealousy and is isues going on we got past that my daughter was born the next year we got married then the next year my son was born so we were doing okay and you were still together we were still together you were a family we were a family had a second child yes we had a second child and at that time the proos were acknowledging you absolutely you were a part of their family absolutely I'm just trying to understand the fraud where where does the fraud come in Mr was it his parents that doubted us let him explain this cuz I want to understand it was a doubt from my father thinking that toine was actually for him but he did love Lori to he did love her of course he did he married her and had two children with her and so you're saying that there was always rumors or discussion in the family that your father doubted whether or not miss Lutz was truly his child the rumors came from the Poo family and the only reason there's any question about any money is because they thought they can get their greedy little hands on it after my daddy pass really all right listen I understand that you are obset and very passionate about this situation but you're all over the place I need to understand the doubt did you hear about anyone else she potentially was sleeping with no your honor the only thing I've heard was and it's my father walking in on Miss touche as far as that that's such a lot with a coworker there was a point that you were told that your father walked in on Miss touche and another man right correct you're your honor that's a lie that's not the reason my husband husband and I separated in initially I got a job right as as I finished school I went to work I was driving a really old broken down car my husband was home watching the children I was driving the car the brakes went out on my car as I'm waiting someone one of the ma mechanics came out of the back who was a friend of my older brother and saw me sitting there he went to the autop part store B brakes for my car replaced them on my car when I got home is when I found out my husband was so upset that I had been gone for so long and I as I so what you're saying Miss T is that's the only incident where you felt like your Fidelity was in question yeah my D he was a jealous person he accused me that was the second time he accused gentle that they're talking about the coworker the one you brought to my father's funeral did you friend of was you ever in a relationship with this man my eyes after my husband passed away yes ma'am you did bring him to your husband's funeral he was a friend of the family yes ma'am he went so and yes ma'am yes yeah and she was caught so wait a minute Miss Cortez you're saying that this is the man she was caught with yes and then during Brother's funeral this man was there yes MH yes you're honor and then later they had a relationship M that's I lost several people yeah she lost contact because she her parents wouldn't allow her to have contact with her own family so I want to go to you Miss Lutz um tell me a little bit about your relationship with your father you remember having a relationship with him there's not a lot that I remember because I was so young but I do remember my dad had this really big car and he would let us ride on his lap drive us around I was Daddy's girl I was his only daughter he had two sons and he loved his kid you care he L his children yes he did love his daughter and I grew up without a dad and that was hard enough and then when I grew up without his his memories his childhood I didn't have that because they took that from me they took that and all of his belongings your mother took and didn't give them back to me didn't let me have anything from my dad and now they're taking my brother from me just because they have so much hatred in their heart and you two were close we were always close my mother would make sure we stay and kind of take weekends with him like that like she had visitation with him like it was her child we never fought this is the first time we've ever had a disagreement and I'm 32 I didn't know he even thought this kind of thing I didn't know because he didn't tell me so you were never aware that there was a question related to your fraternity no until when until about a month ago that's the first time that I ever heard anything that I might not be a Prio and so you're saying Mr proo that the family just held this in all the family held it in and it's it's hearsay it's things that I've heard on my side of my father's family that's not true so how much money did M touche receive do you remember Miss touche yes ma'am and I have a copy of the settlement check here it was for $325,000 but as you can see it was separated 100,000 for each of the children including Mr and 25,000 for me as his Legal Wife D let me see that my mom always I never want for anything my mother bought a home or it was under my name my grandfather is the one who took the money and put it in account oh I didn't even know that that's nice he took it in an account and put it in there until I was 18 of age of age to that he bought a Mustang and he wrecked it and almost killed himself with it my mother cared for me and my younger brother with that money and I don't have any regret on how she decied in one house she bought one house for us Mr porio it is your intention that you want to return to your home state and yeah file a claim to have that money return to you you believe well if she comes out she's not my biological assistant I will pursue that oh wow Ian this is 30 years going on 30 years and this is all new to me that's what I love so this could have been done with 30 years ago so for 30 years this family has been in there a reason we always we always why are you here you don't even want me why on hold on sorry yor for 30 years this family has been in turmoil yes ma'am over rumors and ultimately a settlement Which is far too common money that at the end of the day it comes down to that that is nowhere near the cost of what it takes to raise two small children I know I'm raising four kids I think the only we are going to be able to figure out how and if we can move forward have the result L Jerome I don't want you should be sorry I don't want I don't want a relationship anymore I'm good these results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows just so we are clear in order to determine if Miss Lutz and Ricky poio Jr are siblings We performed a siblingship DNA test using Mr porio Jr and his mother Miss Bruce's DNA as well as Miss Lutz and her mother Miss touchet's DNA you understand yes ma yes you the results read as follows in the case of porio versus touche Lutz pertaining to 32-year-old torine Lutz it has been determined by this Court Mr porio and M Lut are siblings than you the LI Rick give up you R relationship with that Li you're done Ricky congratul very much Dawn you the one that wanted this no I wanted it to you I wanted to show you we never had this problem until they got in the middle of us let's get some order list I just wanted to know the truth so you just's nothing she never was nothing we killed our relationship you know feel about this family family family I was hoping the truth would be the Catalyst to more positive discourse that is your sister oh yeah biologically stay on your hold on came to give a hug I can't even do this Ricky goodbye well listen he came over to try to give a hug if you're not ready to receive that take a moment I've dealt with a lot and hopefully one day because I'll say say this what is the sense of fighting yelling screaming and fighting for validation to say I know I'm a part of this family I'm a part of this family and then you find out yes you are a part of the family but I don't want nothing to do with the family I I we didn't want it to begin with the reason even being here what you stated today has been validated by the DNA and what I'm hoping for you is that you will use that truth and say you don't have to Harbor another hurt feeling everything you stood in court today and said was true that is his child yes sir but their brother and sister you all like it or not your family Mr Evans you claim your relationship with the defendant was just a weekl long fling and you are certain you are not the biological father of her two-month-old daughter Lany once today's results prove what you already know you want your your last name back is that correct that is correct your honor Miss Snider you claim today's DNA test will prove that the plaintiff is Laney's father and you need him to step up and help support your daughter is that correct honor so Mr Evans you say you're certain this is not your child I'm absolutely certain explain so the baby doesn't look like me for from the get-go like as soon as I saw her I was just like she don't look like me she's she doesn't have my nose she doesn't have my eyes like I would see you know features you know that would resemble me and she doesn't look anything like me so I I just want to know I mean if she is mine then okay you know I'll I'll man up and take care of my take care of my little girl and um but if she's not mine then I want my name back so miss Snider I see you are so emotional yes you're CU I just want him want to prove that he's the father and how much I love her and all that and when you think about a man denying your baby and saying she's not mine it just makes me mad I can see you just can't take your eyes off of her what are you feeling in this moment right now emotional and kind of sad why because it's just is overwhelming right now so today truly means everything to you this is important yes you're honor this is the day that you feel like you're going to get a father for your baby yes your honor the father she deserves yes your honor so Mr Evans please take me to the day you met Miss Snyder how did you meet so I was downtown playing drums and um so she walks up to me and I see her and she's you know looking at me and I'm just like okay and she's like you know starts giving me those eyes and I'm like okay I know that look and then she starts you know dancing a little bit and then starts flashing her boobs no one didn't wait what yes you did that's a lie yes you did okay so you're playing drums she comes up you all make eye contact yes and she flashes you flashes me and then she like starts getting closer yes she did and um she starts dancing on top of me like she's literally in my lap while I'm playing drums dancing and everything don't deny it you can't deny that yes I can like I mean okay deny it all you want but that's what happened and while she's dancing on top of me while I'm playing drums you know people are like coming by like oh you know like you know cuz I'm you know it's entertaining and whatnot and I'm thinking like this is great she's making me more money put cuz people put more money in my bucket and you said this is great the show just got better okay though they're putting more money in everybody's entertained she's dancing on your lap and you playing the drum yeah then what so then I get a phone call from my ex saying that she's at my house right now who brought bring she brought a guy over because he lost his job he needed a place to stay and it was the only place that she can think of to bring him and I'm just like okay you know what fine but just know that I'm like at this at this point in time there's this girl dancing on my lap right now and I'm bringing her home say that part oh my God you didn't say that part I did to say that part I told you that I told you what happened right after that right after I got off the phone so now listen so you you you end up going home together yes what happens so I walk in and she's on my couch he's in my chair they're uh talking and whatnot giggling and laughing and everything so we go to the bed and her and I are you know in my in my room and Miss Snider comes in the in the room and um you know she gets in the bed with us well I'm talking to my ex at this point why aren't you out there with him because you brought him here she's like well I'm I'm not sleeping out there with him I'm sleeping here with you and her and I was just like all right okay well wait so you go from playing the drums to being in the bed with Miss Snider and your ex yeah I'm scared to ask Jerome but what happened so I think you know what happened in your honor um she started you know messing with me and then um and then my ex noticed and she was like oh no that's mine and I'm just like huh grabs it from she grabs it from Amanda yeah I'm sorry I what what no oh it's a threesome an a game of tug of war at the same time no so after about a minute or so I'm just like hey hey hey hey y'all quit fighting there's enough for me for both of y'all and I'm just like it's enough for both of y'all yes no this is enough for me for both of y'all and I'm just like you know I'm thinking in the back of my head like this is amazing I can't you know I just you know I'm excited you know so I'm just like I want to get control of the situation okay and so um so I'm talking to my ex I'm like you've had me long enough you need to learn how to share and and I told Amanda oh you start getting the lingo together I suppose I mean it just kind of came in the in the moment you know oh okay so okay and then what happened I was like Amanda do you know how to share she goes yes I know how to share and I go all right well then y'all get along be nice play fair let's have a good time yeah and so you know we started having sex and you know and it was it felt great I loved it I had had a great time and but you didn't use protection no which is why you're here yes that's why but it gets better it gets better there's more there's more to story so um Amanda she was with me for that whole week that we were together and um so you had sex for a week Miss Snider with Mr Evans a couple during the week yes ma'am and you were there all week yes your honor and so therefore that's why you're saying that he's lany's biological father yes your honor I can't move on from this point until I say now you know you don't have no business playing drums out there on the street then coming back home with some woman and not using protection and you don't have no business coming home with him and not using no protection yes sir I understand that now was that the only time you were intimate Mr Evans no so I left for a week I went to Colorado to go get a job and I came back a week later and um we and before I left we had met up one last time and and we had sex that night as well and I didn't use protection oh my gosh we're here now we're here so Mr Evans take me to the day you find out Miss Snider is pregnant okay so I'm in Colorado at this point working and um she calls me like between it was like in between July and August of 2018 and um I get a phone call from her and she told me that she was pregnant and I was like okay so you know when do you find out when the baby's born and you know what's the sex and everything and so she told me it's possibly a girl and she's due sometime in January so December or December one or the other and so so you just said okay well just yeah I was just like okay well I'm pretty sure at that point I thought it was my baby and I'm just like all right you know so you know just I'm thinking it's mine cuz I didn't know that she was you know may have been with somebody else or anything like I'm thinking that time that we were together was the only I was the only person that she was with and you know conceived during that time and so I'm like oh yeah yeah it's fine you know if if everything goes as planned you know I'll be there you know when the baby's born and everything like that um but work kept me held up so I didn't get back until sometime in January after the baby was born and um and then when she when I saw the baby I was just like are you sure that's are you sure she's mine because she don't look like me she don't have my features she doesn't you know like she her nose is like more flared and mine is like more round and like she doesn't really like have my eyebrows like and I have like a Widow's Peak that you can't really see it's kind of faded but like like you know I just got a haircut so during the pregnancy you accepted that this is my child you knew you had had sex without protection correct you did the math you said to yourself yeah it was probably around that time I own up to my mistakes and this is my baby all right yeah did you ask Miss Sider if she'd been with anyone else or could it be anyone else's baby did you ask ask after the fact yes after I saw her I did what did she tell you when you asked her she said that she was sleep that she had slept with someone else oh so miss Snider who's this other person you slept with I do admit I slept with someone else but we also used protection and it was after what would have been after the conception date though it was like a week or two afterwards all right and so how did you meet this guy that you slept with I had a been him for a little bit okay so we did use protection okay so well this court did track down that other man because we wanted to hear his side of the story and he sent in the following statement I admit sleeping with Amanda but I did use a condom the condom did not break so I know that baby is not mine so this statement it basically is in line with your testimony that you did have sex but you did use protection you don't think he's the father he doesn't think he's the father you also testified about your conception window and that's a calculation that you did to show that Mr Evans is the biological father in your mind yes your honor and you did that you brought a calendar yes your honor I'd like to look at your calendar so the beginning of April that's when you met and you had sex all week from the 1st to the 7th yeah it's like the end of March beginning April okay and then you had sex one other time on April 15 and that's what Mr Evans testified to before he went off to work then baby Laney was born December 27th yeah she was due the 31st but I had got induced on the 26th okay so you had sex with the other guy at the end of April the 22nd through the 28th and if you do the calculation the window of conception would have been around the end of March to the first week of April so that leads you to believe that Mr Evans is lany's biological father yes your honor and Mr Evans is the only man you were sleeping with during that time because you didn't meet him until the first yes your honor did you sleep with anybody else on the third 31st no your honor no the end of March I I met him like the end of I met him the end of March beginning of April okay so Mr Evans now that you see this calendar are you pretty convinced now has it changed your testimony do you believe you are Laney's biological father no he's not mine I'm not the father I I do not believe that I am the father but are you basing all of this just on looks because you don't think she looks like you cuz you know we can't base everything on looks a baby's face forms and develops over time she may not seem to have your features now but maybe she will later I mean well that's that's what that's what I need I need proof I need proof of that so I mean and if she so what kind of relationship have you developed with Lany thus far I have not seen a Laney since I've been back from from work so you've never met her never never laid eyes on only pictures and videos chat but you do video chat with her and you get the pictures yes and when you get the pictures what it just keeps reinforcing this isn't my child why are you even staying in touch then well I wanted to get a DNA test to find out if she was because she did say that she was slept with this other man and so Miss Snyder you gave Laney Mr Evans last name yes your honor but he wasn't there for the birth or anything no and did you talk about that beforeand we had talked about it and he was planning on coming down there but at the last minute he wasn't able to cuz work but you did you decide that on your own to give the baby his last name yes your honor okay and you say if Laney's not your biological child you want your last name back you don't want the baby to have your last name that's correct and if she is yours you have testify that you will step up and you will take care of her yes ma'am all right let's get the results Jerome may I have the envelope these results were prepared by DNA Diagnostics and they read as follows in the case of Evans versus Snider when it comes to twomon Old Lany Evans it has been determined by this court Mr Evans you are not the [Music] father you were right Mr Evans you are not her biological father Miss Snider I'm sorry I know that wasn't the result you thought you were going to get today have you informed this other man that he could potentially be the biological father I told him maybe you told him I said there I said I I gave him a chance I said you might be even though we used the condom I said there might still be a small chance is there anybody else besides this man no your honor okay so I got to say this before we go I know Young people are into this one night stand thing where it's all so fun and you go to the Bor or you druming on the side of the road and he's looking handsome and then you start dancing and then you know but there are real life consequences to this kind of behavior real life you have a beautiful little girl now and you have to set an example that

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Length: 95min 35sec (5735 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 15 2024