"I'm Tired Of Women WHINING!" The 'Female Andrew Tate' Pearl Davis On Equal Pay in Sports

well join me in the studio socialist and author Grace Blakely and YouTube commentator Paul Davis uh both I would imagine identifying as provocateurs of course talk about this first of all Paul I I just find the whole personal pronoun thing honestly absurd my personal pronouns on my Twitter biography are now uh hot hotter hottest and I frankly if people don't call me those then they have to be jailed I go along with that but I did that to highlight that when I do that and say that people then accuse me of being ridiculous I think the whole thing is ridiculous why do we need personal pronouns we don't need personal pronouns I honestly I don't think it's kind to allow people to live in delusion at the end of the day at the end of the day at the end of the day and a woman is okay just because you dress like a woman talk like a woman act like a woman it does not make you a woman and I am so tired of us allowing these people to let us live in delusion it is delusional to think you are the opposite gender and it is not kind I can't even go on I love flying British Airways right my preferred daylight a wonderful Airline and they always used to it would also be a lovely Posh voice saying good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to pretty and I used to felt soothing particularly if I came from another country back to Britain I felt immediately at ease my captain was there sounding like he was you know from some wonderful pathy News Bulletin and he referred to us as ladies and gentlemen that's now been banned they're not allowed to say ladies and gentlemen because there might be one person on the plane who says oh whoa whoa hang on I don't identify as a lady or a gentleman well okay fine I don't care but I do so where's my right to be called a gentleman here's Grace know how I feel up with this I'm so so bored of it all I'm so bored of the fact that this is the one item that's constantly coming up over and over and over again and you can completely see why right conservative governments have destroyed our economy we're in the middle of a massive climate crisis just some of the hottest week ever I've just come over from Europe it's extremely hot and instead of talking about that we spend hours and hours and hours talking about pronouns talking about going into bathrooms talking about you know all of this stuff that just doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter to you so boring doesn't matter to you but it does matter to women in sport it does matter to women whose young daughters might be using these dressings it doesn't matter to the victims of male rapists who see their attackers identify as women get into women's prisons sorry so when you say they don't matter they really do matter you have those issues aired in the appropriate you know spaces we are in you know in sports have that discussion amongst people but like literally it's about priorities isn't it there's a certain number of times we have on these shows to discuss the issues you don't think women's before we come to our I don't think women's sport matters as much as climate change I think like it's women's equality in which we can play sports women's equality I know that that could be probably absolutely quality Humanity well I mean yeah of course but actually I mean the whole point that I was going to make on this segment actually is that like you cannot separate feminism from class issues like if you're just going around saying like I don't know um I think the female CEO of a weapons manufacturer should be paid the same as a male CEO and that's the hill I'm gonna die on I'm not fighting that fight with you because ultimately like what I care about are the struggles that ordinary women face every day well let's come to the the main point of the segment which is this issue of women's rights to be paid the same as men in sport now the Australian women's football team have criticized the pay Gap in the upcoming World Cup prize money just take a look at what they said as a team 736 footballers had the honor of representing their country on the world's biggest stage this tournament yeah many are still denied the basic rights to organize and collectively bargain collective bargaining has allowed us to ensure we now get the same conditions as the socceroos with one exception FIFA will still only offer women one quarter as much prize money as men for the same achievement well okay this is an interesting part because if you look at the revenue for example in 2019 FIFA generated uh 586 million pounds in total revenue the men's uh for the 19 2019-22 cycle 5.8 billion uh record Revenue through the men's World Cup so the women's game has come on in Leaps and Bounds the English lionesses fantastic win sellout crowds they're making a lot more money they're definitely way way further now towards whether men are commercially than they were but they're still a way off and when you saw at Wimbledon for example the men's final was watched by three times as many people and yet they were both free to wear on the BBC you could watch both if you wanted to so there was three times as much interest in the men's game they played two sets more per match than the women doing it the women get equal pay I'm not quite sure why I don't think it's a matter of equality it's just a matter of fairness isn't it yeah well I I won I think all of the women should thank the men for fun ending our leagues because most of our leagues would not exist without the men number one number two when we have the same numbers then we should get the same pay I'm sorry I play I play volleyball at the highest level and it's like when we make what the men make and get the crowds that the men draw then we should get paid the same why why is it actually a fight for equality Grace I mean why if if women in a particular sport for example turned out to generate more Revenue right because they were more watchable and in America the women's football team is better than the men and they do generate even a school level far more interest from girls than boys for example I don't see why equality should be the aim why shouldn't they get paid more than the men well look I mean there are all sorts of problems with the way that this market for labor is basically a market for labor works like I personally don't think that the top football players in the world should be paid as much as they do I think it's ridiculous the amount that's marketing exactly it's Market forces that be the way that we decide you know who's to generate what who generates more personally I'm very much in favor of the fact that they came out there and said collective bargaining ultimately like at the average worker in this country hasn't had a pay rise in over a decade how is that going to change that's going to change when they organize with one another I'm tired of women whining their names the men literally the men fund our leagues and we will still whine that we don't get paid enough and honestly when athletes do like this it makes all of us look bad because instead of being thankful for the league that we have we go out and whine and complain about the pay I mean as I said I'm not whining you sound like you're maybe doing a bit of whining but like personally I don't think we should be whining I think people should be organized join a union get out there and fight for it should the women footballers get the same as the men yeah I think it probably makes sense even if anything like the revenue ultimately like it's not gonna change it's not going to change unless they organize that's actually true across every sector let me ask you this it on Talent alone for example as a yardstick the U.S women's football team were beaten by a group of under 15 boys from Texas right who were very good under 15 boys but they're under 15 boys team beat them I think about eight nine nil or something so why should women footballers who are clearly nowhere near as good as their male counterparts just technically why should they get paid anything like as much money well I mean you know it sucks doesn't it that like as you're you play volleyball I'm a surfer I assur thing it's very hard for women to build up a body strength this is something that I've learned that very much the hard way and so yeah there is there is equal pay yeah there is and actually you know it it's one of those Sports where can a woman be as good as a man well it's different it's a different sport really it's not you know it is the same sport but it's very different watching a woman surf than is watching Amanda because you know the average male body is different from the average woman like uh woman's body for all this but is there any actual technical reason why a woman can't do with a circle what a man can do yeah there's I mean there's loads of reasons like it is about the upper body strength it's about like the way that the body is built should women Surfers at the elite level get the same as well like again I think it's it just is different like it's a different kind of game and people watch it oh you're shaking your head no I just think when we start making the same amount of money as the man then we should get paid the same as the man I don't hear the man whining about only fans models getting paid more than them I don't hear the men whining about models getting paid more than that Kendall Jenner is the highest paid supermodel where are the male super models however men dominating an industry women will just complain I mean I don't know if that's true about any fans because there are a lot of men on only fans as well but I mean look the main point I think they make the same I have no idea but like if maybe if you averaged out the number of men and women that are on that website anyway look the main point here the point that I came on it I wanted to make was the um the like the problem that we have in in our economy at the moment is not that like the average football player isn't played the same as the average man it is probably an injustice and I'm glad that they're organizing and working together to fight for that but ultimately the problem we have in our economy is that nobody's getting paid enough money because inflation's eroded people's wages even before that no one had a pay rise in a really long time and the lesson from this is as I've said I'm going to say it again because it's important lesson and no one knows about them anymore because they see them as a hangover from 1970s join a union because otherwise your boss is gonna well there are unions for all these they're all it's the unions that are fighting for them exactly but on okay but just as a general point though the principle you think that women should get paid the same even if they're not as technically as good and not producing as much revenue objective judgment isn't it on whether or not they're like technically Let me Give an example an example would be the Olympics if you made it non-gender specific how many women would win medals well I mean no okay it may be in a question maybe in shooting I think again there's no sense that the men might win you can say like oh you know this group is better than this group but again I think it's different men are let's not illusion and in most cases more people men and women want to watch men play sport correct that's just a demonstrable fact that may change now my point is if it changes I don't see why equality should be the only ambition for the women if it turns out that in some sport women get more viewers watching and therefore draw more Revenue I'm all for them getting more money than the man can you name five WNBA players five female soccer players I mean I can't name any soccer players we would get equal pay if we would just get the support from the family well let me let me tell you name five let me tell you what the WNBA is we need our support you're asking the wrong person yeah you really are um but I do want to mention one thing which is I had Dale Vince on the program he's this uh he's been funding just stop oil and also he was very very keen to show his feminist credentials because he just he owns a football team and he had just hired the first female manager uh football team but there was a slight problem which he only made of the caretaker and I saw a potential flaw here so let's see what went down when I interviewed him you didn't think by pointing the first female caretaker manager of a professional men's team you would get any attention she's the best candidate for the job at the club this is what happens you look at within the club you find your best coach and you say take the team in an interim period while we do a proper recruitment process that's all that's happening here how do you keep coming back to that of appointments she's only a caretaker look at our record so if you believed him that much you'd have been a manager you've got all the publicity but actually she's not got the full result yeah it works and I suspect what's going to happen is you're going to go fast in football you're going to probably go and find a bloke to replace it and then you're going to have to deal with that I I thought you understood football piss I do I'm an awesome thing well you might be massively unsurprised to learn that 12 Days Later Anna Dinkley has been removed from her job as caretaker manager and replaced by a man yeah Dale talk to good game on feminism and women's rights and posted about it and got all the publicity and in the end he got rid of her after 12 days and put a bloke in charge and you can make your own view about Mr Vince for doing that uh lovely to see you both thank you both very much indeed

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Length: 13min 13sec (793 seconds)

Published: Tue Jul 18 2023