IIWII SEASON 1 EPISODE 28 ft. Ice Cube

baby along with your host Kim and mace yeah cam is there yo Ken what you doing yo Today's Show is sponsored by Dipset New York you know what I'm saying I know it's hot as a out there right now but when cool down you could look as cool as me this is our fall lineup if you want some like this to be as cool as me go to Dipset couture.us so we're getting closer and closer to Fight Night Errol Spence versus Terence Crawford will happen on July 29th the 12 round fight will be the first bout for all four major welterweight belts in boxing history who do you predict to win and what are your thoughts about the fight coming up damn murder they've been asking me this same question for a month and a half and I still have no answer I've been watching the oil access yeah it's hard because pause because Terence Crawford is training up in in Colorado where the altitude is high and arrow Spencer's training in in Dallas yeah where's how does a like a heat advisory to where they like people could die so they're both getting some good training and I still have no clear-cut answer for this question I think it's going to be a hell of a fight I think they're both very determined to win if I had to pick one person the only reason and listen this is this is really really a touchy situation for both boxes because bud is my man arrows my man both of them my peoples and I've been watching if you pick somebody the other person's like stay over there forever don't ever come back so I'm like damn I don't even want to pick anybody if I had to pick I'm gonna go with Arrow Spence of one reason solely I don't know if I said this on the show before but I said it to somebody else is that it is a video circulating where if you type in Arrow Spence street fight he's going toe-to-toe with rib shots no gloves no nothing outside somebody house just rips out for rib shot with somebody that's like 260 pounds and he made them quit now Terence Crawford may have these type of same type of videos but I didn't see him so if I'm picking somebody I'm only picking it off of that video Terence Crawford could around and not aerospice I have no idea who's going to win a fight but if somebody had a gun to my head and say pick somebody that is the reason I'm going to pick I respect solely off the video If you go to YouTube and type in aerospenn street fight that's the only reason I'm picking I'm not picking them off as championships I'm not picking them off his training I have no idea but if somebody had a gun to my head that's the only reason I'm picking them because can knock him out as well but that's why I'm picking them he gave a lot of information um I think I for some reason I just I just think Terence Crawford is going to win I wouldn't do it again after I saw the videos I saw the videos with um aerospence like everything camera wise look like Arrow should win so it's kind of it's kind of hard to hard to pick but I wonder who Vegas going with Terence Crawford this is this is like because if you saw that all access how how how Errol was shadowing the the trainer and then the trainer switched Southpaw and he still kept hitting him it lets me know that he trained especially for Terence Crawford and they seemed like Terence Crawford trained just to fight Terence Crawford's fight like he's not training for Arrow he's like we're gonna stick to what we do got you so it's like that's a talk you know yeah I don't know really who's gonna win that's a great point because Terence Crawford because I have no reason why I should go for Terence other than he's he's just elusive you know the the things that he the way he boxes he got all the gifts but it looks like Harold is gonna win but I'm still just going like terms it's it's crazy because bringing that up that's the one thing Taryn Crawford could you up with in round two I've seen him do it yeah he comes he comes uh Orthodox first rounding blame I see something I'm going Southport yeah and up you're like oh I got to and so you have to get prepared for that because everyone's never trained or not that I know I've never fought anybody who could just you know what round four we gonna go Southport yeah you know what I'm saying then not only that and when I watched Floyd Mayweather talk about him sparring with arrow Spence and the rumors of this this is the rumors yeah because I was supposed never talks about it really he doesn't talk about it the rumors is this he came to Floyd Mayweather's Jim spoiled with Floyd Mayweather gave Floyd the business like I said Floyd Mommy I don't know if it's true or not yeah and it was so bad that they told him get out yeah they say yo get the hell out the gym you're doing that the is wrong with you doing that to the champ yeah and when he got this car they said no no we bugging yeah come back in so when I watch Floyd Mayweather talk about training with aerospence Floyd Hanson was this well I just got out of jail because if y'all remember I had to go to jail right yeah so I was about to fight to God and he gave me some good work I needed that work to get my body where it need to be but when I trained them my body wasn't there yeah to be where it needed to be yeah but I can't lie he gave me some good work did they ever Revisited that would be the question that's the question but that lets me know because I've never seen and Floyd didn't say that that I will them or not like that but I never see Floyd that humble yeah on the floor you me yeah yeah yeah TV yeah TV I never seen and Debbie also said I just got out of jail it was like a lot of excuses the guy gave me some good work yeah so when they asked our respects about it I've seen the one particular on uh Gillian wallow by the way R.I.P the um my man Gilly Gilly son man uh he passed away yo you know Gillian Walo a big reason that me and murder even speaking again yeah so we want to give their family and loved ones our condolences and our prayers um but I seen them on Gilly's show and while those show and they Gilly Gilly was everything he's like I heard you with Floyd ass I heard you gave Floyd you're gonna get him and said yeah and he's like then everyone kind of laughed her he said now you know he he said he just got out of jail so you know you know so it's like when I can't count just got out of jail so so Gilly like nah they said you gave him the business and I was just like I'm not gonna say you know what I'm saying so at the end of the day those are two reasons I'm kind of going with arrow but if Crawford wins I wouldn't be surprising but I love you too I'm just going over those two things I have no other reason to pick against you because if you're knocking about in the third round I wouldn't be surprised and vice versa yeah when it comes to this fight at the hearing you speak it really can't I really thought about it um that but but has been hurt before I never seen Errol hurt and that's that's the reason why I'm going with where I meant with um Terence because I never seen Earl's hurt so I don't know what he'll become if things go that way especially when you're a forward foot person and you always fighting going forward it's almost like when we saw Tyson had the Box backwards right he didn't look the same you get what I'm saying because he never had to go backwards Tyson Fury Deontay Wilder exactly when those guys are put on the back foot it's just it just I get what you're saying 100 it's like like I saw a bug get hurt and I saw a bud respond right exactly so I think arrow is a phenomenal fighter he has everything to make Terence Crawford quit but I never seen him hurt you know right so when you talk about people being proven like I've seen this guy get hit and want to fight more versus start dancing around and running around trying to get back which I I that's a great Point they've never seen them the word has never seen them in any adversity yeah so never seen them in adversity like he had the weather through this storm like I've seen Terrence get clipped and and say let's go let's see yeah right you know what I'm saying that's a different fighter than right most people get hurt and it be all over right I agree with that's a great point but I will say this I think that they both want to win so bad somebody's gonna get knocked out yeah somebody's gonna get hurt somebody's gonna go I would I wanted to go to 12 because this is going to be a spectacular if I hope it goes well but I see somebody wanting to win so bad that they gonna get questions I don't see it going past ten yeah somebody gonna get caught slipping so I hope not I would love to see a 12 round fight because I know it may be the first two three rounds I'm not saying it will be it may be Hearns haglin they come out going crazy the first round but I see the first two rounds going a little slow but you know pause feeling each other out the like like the score car is starting to kick in uh let's get busy you know what I'm saying so we'll see what happens but I think this fight from the from the bell ring is gonna be a fight so it's from time first round I don't see Arrow letting him get comfortable I See Arrow pursuing him from the jump so either Crawford is gonna put him on the back foot or he's gonna be going forward the whole entire fight and that's a bad fight so I got everyone you got Crawford so neither one of them could be mad whatever man yeah yeah well it'll be very interesting to see what happens let us know who y'all got but we'll be right back with a very special guest [Music] s excuse me at the last night performance we're gonna do this again I don't think so and make sure you close the door behind me I'm Rico strong horsepower this morning for cash money back [Music] Muchachos when now right now right now yeah [Music] [Music] welcome back so today we're joined by a very special guest he's a rapper songwriter actor film producer and a big contribute contributor to the world of hip-hop the Los Angeles native created his own song such as it was a good day but was also a member of the classic hip-hop group NWA that was formed in Compton they created the hit song such as Straight Outta Compton F the police and Dopeman the film Straight Out of Compton was then later produced by Ice Cube which depicted the rise and fall of the group he continues to create in the hip-hop film and now Sports space welcome Ice Cube what's up baby what's happening with y'all um fan out or anything but we appreciate you coming let me ask you something real quick I just you don't curse did she just say F the police episodes yeah that's crazy thank you so much for coming man anytime man I love what y'all doing here thank you so much we appreciate it so look I'm gonna jump right into it it's been a lot of things going on that you've been circulating as far as you and the NBA with the big three yeah and you've probably not even probably you've definitely been doing big business on a high scale longer than anybody in this building right now and you won't you say lately they know what they're doing behind the scenes and everybody knows what they're doing behind the scenes but for the average person who may work at McDonald's or 7-Eleven a Dunkin Donuts or doesn't understand ad revenue or um sponsorship or anything like that they may not understand what you're saying when you say what they're doing behind the scenes what exactly do you mean when you say that the NBA are doing things behind the scenes the you know stagnate the big three well you know when you got when you got a league like this the biggest uh revenue is Media saying sponsorships you know I mean ticket sales is cool but you really uh you're really looking for that big media deal or you're looking you know for great sponsors and so you know you spend your time you know not only you know building the business but behind the scenes you're talking to all these Fortune 500 companies especially the ones that advertise in basketball you know we go right after them because they got a track record of performing in basketball so um a lot of them already got uh a sponsorship with the NBA you know so but they sponsor the NCAA they sponsor you know all kind of other sports too so um it kind of sucks when we get there and we get in and we get you know down the line where they want to do it and then they call us and say how's your relationship with the NBA right and um and once we got to tell them that you know it's not it's not totally 100 with the NBA then they start to backpedal and say you know if y'all can work that out then we can do a deal you know what I mean so that's happening too many times to count you know in seven years it's countless at times and then what you run into is that pool of of of sponsors that deal in basketball starts to get narrow you know I mean you can't just go to any company and say Hey yo uh you know invest in the big three or or sponsor the big three when they don't do basketball you know you're going to Gatorade you're going to Nike you're going to Geico you know I mean you're going to all the people that usually do it and so you know that that kind of that kind of hurts the league we can't grow as fast gotcha yeah do you think that your league being in direct competition with the WNBA may be a problem while the NBA treat y'all like that it could be but that's only because we're not coordinated you know if we was working together we would make sure that we didn't play on the same days they played and we kind of you know could schedule it out you know I don't think there's you know there's room for both leagues for sure right and if we was kind of working together we can work out any kind of conflicts that's that may be there absolutely it's because we're not working together now we're bumping up right against them at times gotcha what made you guys not work together from the beginning um they didn't want to you know when we first started this you know it's like yo if you're on the Block and we coming through with a product we want to talk to the people that we're on the Block who might be a problem you know what I mean so that's what we did we went bearing gifts we said yo we're going to start this we want to give you guys 10 of the league for no money just just cooperation and they they said thank you but no thank you and we told them we're going to do it anyway and um and so we proceeded to do it and you know at first they was cool because they thought it was going to be like some you know yeah so then they realized oh damn this is this is good this is is it's definitely professional and it's it's it's got class to it so from there that's when they start telling some of the people that that's analysts but was playing in The Big Three like you know I want to name them names but he was telling them y'all don't mention the big three when you're on the edge when you're on the NBA telecast or broadcast do not mention that big three and that's where it kind of started have they have they asked you anything like what what will make it become cohesive together like is it a percentage or is it nah they just look at us as competition um and you know that's the problem we're not competition you know if you look at what we're doing and what they're doing they make billions of dollars every year we're just six years into it so we think we're complementary right and by them labeling labeling us competition there's bylaws in their owner's agreements that yeah can invest in the competing league so a lot of NBA owners want to invest in big three but they can't because of their clothes but they can invest in Slam ball they can invest in pickleball they can invest in and uh ownership NFL MLB soccer league that black people don't own yeah there you go that's that's what you mean yeah let's get into it I was waiting for that that's basically what you said yeah so let's let me ask you some questions about the big three so the quality of the players are in the Big Three because I watch I'm a big basketball fan me and make sure to play basketball uh went to college then I still play cam yeah I'm not good I don't know women in the 40 and over fire league title fight illegal let me ask you this so do you hold like because that's that's the one thing I was thinking about the big I'm like why isn't City related why is it like why isn't the LA whatever team or Seattle whatever team or New York whatever team what was the formula of forming teams well we you know we thought of the league as you know like you would think of UFC or NASCAR you know the we wanted to start this and be able to Pivot fast and be able to do things and make sure the league worked right you know and before we start selling teams off so now we're in a position where it definitely works people definitely see okay this league is viable now we we're in the process of 17 so you will have you know a Miami team or New York team or you know wherever we can you know find the right owners with the right plan because you know you can have the team but you got to have a plan for how you're gonna you know affect the city how you're going to do with the young three you know you have a plan to really make sure the team and the city are working together we don't want to just stick name you know on a team and not really have a cohesive relationship with the city and a plan so right now we got a few uh guys we veting who want to be owners and you know we're going to start selling teams off that's what's up congratulations do you think that there should be like an age where people can't play in The Big Three yeah I think so you know I think like but but your body tell you that you know it's it's a level of basketball you know a lot of people like us three on three half court are these dudes you know um they're not in the NBA they might some of them might be past a prime but in this setting you know playing half court to 50 once a week you know these guys really you know their skills are are really fine-tuned for that now some guys yo Mike moo played he's 50 something yeah he played he was still able to to give work to the 20 somethings you know I mean so we got some guys in their 20s who can't cocaine play at this level so it's really a level of basketball either you can do it or you can't and what's different with the big three and five on five is three on three you got to have all skills you can't be a specialist you can't be a three-point guy or a defensive guy or rebounder you got a dribble past shooting defend or you're just gonna get exposed out there so there's guys that can do all that and they they do good in the league and there's guys that can't do all that and they they don't right let me ask you this now y'all are paying players do you hold them to a standard of being in shape or is it a drug test or when you come in you say look you can't cheat the fan and especially that we're paying you are y'all gonna be in shape when the season starts and throughout the season do you hold them to any type of standard of being in shape not to cheat the big three fans yeah you know and it's not just me holding them to that standard they teammates right yeah hold them to that standing you know people think is is easier to play it's like your money yeah you're just like yo don't come in here bullshitting when I'm paying you you know if they're not ready they get cut because you know release them bringing other guys that's ready you know the the the player captains are the they like the GMS too so they get to pick who they want to play with you know so if I grab you know somebody like Rashard Lewis he'll pick you know Reggie Evans I want to play with this guy so he get to pick two of the guys as his co-captains and then they draft another two guys so you know if nobody working out if it ain't working out they send you back to the draft pool pull another player and you know the competition stays High um you get paid more if you win than if you lose so that yeah and send them to be in shape and play and if you if you don't come in shape you're gonna your tongue is just gonna be hanging out when it's 12 to six you know because yeah is still the same size as an NBA court right but do you know who sent you back to the drive pool when it happens yeah you do yeah the other day you know they bringing in a couple more so we'll see yeah that gotta be crazy to know it's almost like playing in the park and somebody didn't pick you and they had one last pick yeah exactly yeah it's only looking around like who to pick yeah you standing right there and you gotta see him yeah later on so moving forward what do you think is a resolution do you and I heard you say no if I've been following for years but you like you know if I don't really need to work with the NBA or anybody else I'm gonna go on this tour and let people know what's going on what is anything that you want to let people know about the big three moving forward because we're fans already and just getting the word out there because like you what network did you guys start on we started on Fox right now we're on CBS CBS yeah what happened with that with Fox was that part of the NBA kind of hey what happened with fox fox kind of changed their business model they decided to you know they sold a lot of their properties to Disney and then with their Sports um they had these rsns they had these rsas Regional Sports networks that they used to have you know they would have you know Fox Sports West or Fox Sports whatever and so they sold those two uh we was trying to buy those but Sinclair kind of jumped in and got them and um so they kind of busted up how they was dealing with their Sports you know now they just really go for for uh football and baseball and and wrestling so I don't think they even got basketball in their game no more so then we moved to CBS it's been number love over there um you know they got us over there with the big boy teams same people to do the super bowls and the NCAA games you know doing the big three games so so what what happened in between where you said you guys were looking to buy it but but something else we got outbid it you know yeah yeah you know in the 11th Hour we're kind of glad we didn't get it because then the pandemic happened and the sports shut down and you know so they was going to sell it to you yeah yeah Sinclair ended up swooping in and buying it you know we uh it took us a minute to get all that money together and and then they just beat us to the punch man I'm good on the on the basketball man I just want to get what I what I really wanted the people to know as far as the big three is that um you're a black owner basically and a lot and we've been doing business for a long time but a lot of times you have the average viewer that don't understand when like you say they know what's going on because we know what the you're talking about yeah that you got the average person would be like yo why does cubes not tell us so I really wanted you to come here and break that down and all the sneaky that goes on yeah and all that foul behind the behind the scenes that people don't that people don't know because they've never done business on the level you have and I was like you keep saying you know what's going on and I really want you to come up here and explain that to people because everybody doesn't have the business mind or the ethics that you have man I appreciate that man I appreciate just you allowing me to be able to speak on it I appreciate that but the whole thing was to be able to to to find these you know alternative Outlets that's not you know mainstream media you know that could you know where you can like say what you need to say without uh the host kind of you know steering you the way that yeah all that kind of stuff so I just appreciate I appreciate you guys even got this show because Sports needs this you know I mean Sports needs a new uh flavor New Angle some realness um and so you know I was excited that you guys you know got this going and running and you guys you know we appreciate it they need to come cut the check and put y'all you know what I'm saying no well yeah thank you for that look yeah definitely yeah yeah they need to come on put them on put them on so everybody can see them uh you know on those big networks yeah just definitely definitely because my like I said we grew up on you and yeah yeah longevity pause with murder no no we're gonna pause pause free today Yeah so basically is a testament like yeah you've been doing this for a long long time like we bark on her we she's 22. she just she's never seen Friday okay this is a problems about five episodes yeah you got some homework I do yes oh sorry yeah I just wanted to get basketball music yeah so um I'll speak on what they were saying overall you're very very humble and like even though I am younger and they get on me about that like like you said your longevity pause we all have kind of followed your journey and watch what you've done so my question is basically so the big three made history as the first black owned Sports League which is a huge deal you even say it you just kind of sat back and watched but I'm gonna say because that's a big deal what does that mean to you and for people watch watching what would you want them to know um I mean it's it's an honor you know I don't want to be the last so hopefully we got some young entrepreneurs out there watching with it with a big idea that you know if you got the talent around you to bring it into fruition go for it um and you know just being an example you know um showing that if you put your brain to work and and it you know you could think of something cool that that people can get into um so you know I don't you know Sports is to me Universal it has no color so it being the first black sports League you know um that's cool but I want everybody to come out to the games and enjoy the sport you know it's really for everybody yeah you got anything yeah I had a question I definitely I definitely on um Sports I'm I'm ready to go music crazy but yeah I wanted to ask one question before we go deeper pause into the into the music um one thing that I was I was really um admiring is that when you started in music like the way you switch to um movies then doing this what was your brain thought and and doing that man John Singleton you know John Singleton a director of boys in the hood he discovered me man I wasn't even thinking about movies you know when you when you like in the game you're just trying to be the best rapper in the world you know what I mean you ain't really thinking about nothing else so um we you know he had got me you know just focused on the movie and and um he invited me to his house one day we were watching movies he's showing me you know movies and shitty that's all he did was yeah show me different movies so um he just asked me one day he was like man when you gonna write a movie and I was like what the it's like man I uh you know I haven't thought about it you know I'm like I'm just now figuring out that you know I can act and I thought you had to go to Juilliard or some kind of school for that and so um he said man if you can write them songs that Vivid you can write a movie and so it put a bug in me that like oh so I looked at the script and I'm like yo this format is pretty easy like I can think of the story when I install writing so I went and bought a computer that day like and just I started writing and the first movies I wrote was whack you know they was just he was helping me but they wasn't good and then the third one I got to was Friday you know I mean and that was one that was like damn this actually can be a movie you guys like shoot this so um it was really John Singleton that kind of put that bug in I see the audition take the boys in the hood too the first time yeah yeah yeah yeah he's like you didn't take the seriously I didn't right then you came back and and you nailed Doughboy I didn't even know it was him yeah you know like I had met him a year or two before that and then my manager was like one day she was like oh yo somebody won't put you in a movie yeah that was puzzled I'm like what yeah and when I get there it's him John sitting there like yo remember me and my I'm like yeah yeah I do remember you and he's like man so we went in for the audition man I pulled the notes out of my pocket the size and just reading them and I was just whack yeah and um he looked at me was like dude you're terrible and he said he said uh yeah I'm gonna give you one more shot because they want me to bring in some actors you know I'm gonna give you one more shot go home read my script man I know you didn't read it read the whole thing come back tomorrow we're gonna give it one more shot right so when I got home I read it and I was like oh that's about our neighborhood right it was actually you know my wife Kim like damn they making a movie about our neighborhood like that movie worthy you know I mean right yeah it was like it's just movie worthy how we grew up it's just like yeah I guess they did doing a movie on it so I got it so next time I went to go audition I'm like yo I got this right you know all these news yeah so um that's kind of how it how it got going so yeah that's crazy because I got a cube in my top five on best rap rap actors killers in my top five too yeah you know but when I saw the movie when I saw it I was just like yeah that's cool man that was nice seeing you man thank you he really believes that so your movie was like that too I was just like wow movie I did we we first based on Harlem I couldn't that up and go back home like same thing with that you just said it's like your neighborhood it's the neighborhood and then we did it for our neighborhood let me ask you this how accurate is the movie Straight Out of Compton Straight Out of Compton is is very accurate as accurate as you can you know take 10 years and try to shove it in two and a half hours gotcha so you know you have things you have to summarize because you want people to to feel what it felt like and also you know your your you know you got a movie so you gotta you know introduce the characters you know put them in some get them out some you know that's that's basically movies and so um you got to follow those movie um beats and they got to be dramatic but but everything happened you know some things may have happened in a week and we put it in one scene that's what I'm saying so you gotta kinda scrunch things together to make sure you get the whole story you know but you know basically we wanted to tell a story a universal story because if not you know it's just rap movie you know and people's like yo it's a rap movie it was like nah it's bigger than a rap movie so we wanted to make a movie about friendship uh break up the makeup you know David versus Goliath Rags to Riches you know all that is universal stories that we had with a with the backdrop of of that time and that era and and the real dialogue that was happening in the that was going on so It's Tricky you know it was the hardest movie I ever made because of reality you know right when you're just dealing with fiction yeah be like man if I get it you know we don't have that car get this car you wanna have that you know we don't have that house get this you know apartment you know I mean you could just be trying to be accurate you wanna and it's a it's a it's a period piece so we want people to feel how I felt like in 86 87 88 89. you know so um it was a lot of things to try to juggle to be able to to get that story but you know you got me there you got Dre there you know Rin yellow doc everybody is kind of giving the input on on their version of what happened you know so we just a lot of I didn't even know like because when I broke up with the group you know I'm over here with the Lynch Mob and my they over there doing their thing I don't know what's going on with them right in making the movie I'm discovering like this yeah like so what happened when I left and then you know finally getting a chance to really hear what happened right so I was like damn if I'm discovering new right the audience is good now be the same way you know you're gonna be like yo this happened you know I didn't know half of that was happening over there was you gonna with yeah your son did a great job thank you man thanks I appreciate it appreciate it I'm proud of him so let me ask you this working with Dr Dre is it very tedious because he seems like a professionalism we we out of session Dipset that is with Dr Dre yeah we had a session with Dr Dre reason there maybe 14 hours and and did nothing for me she got done with Drake like nah nah yo say it like this and then you're like yeah we from Harlem so we think we the one take boys we got we going there jump in say I said yo we done no no no no no say it like put your shirt well I don't even remember what it was but we said about 100 verses a piece then he wanted a girl's voice and I'm like yo this process is crazy yeah like you said we not playing today I'm just saying but no I'm saying that I'm thinking as a harlem yeah that's where I'm actually yeah yeah no right you want to get every syllable right yo we want to geeking out yeah that's what I was thinking you want to get every syllable right right and it's not right to you it's right to him like right he want to hear it a certain way so yeah you're gonna work when you and he was like that in the beginning yeah yeah he was he was like that um you just had to get it right or he wasn't gonna he wasn't gonna put the record out it seemed like watching like I said just no one watching the movie sorry to cut you off murder um just watched the movie that yeah yep since well still to this day your pen was always on fire so they had to kind of favor what you say because easy wasn't a rapper or Dre didn't know how to rap and maybe rent it but it seemed like you were always the best writer so that's why I was asking you when you first started with NWA did he tell you to make your syllables and everything yeah I mean that's how you always been from day one day one gotcha and that's crazy um how could you argue with him you know especially after the hits start coming you know um but in the beginning you didn't have the hits I'm not you know boys in the hood was the first song I wrote and we did it for easy so once we got that standard it was kind of like this is the bar we gotta we gotta pass you know I mean so and and he I mean easy was not a rapper at all so you can imagine that session took like four days or some you know like getting him to get them three verses in right on that song maybe four verses on that song but you know it it's a hit you know I mean what can you say like yeah tell Drake now man this is done I got it I'm gone right you're just gonna stand there give it get a man what he wants you know after you do that he'll probably call you back in when he mixing and saying yo man I need I need to say these couple things over right and so you're working with you're working with somebody like that you just got to be like yo I'm a tool right now you know I mean I just gotta get this man what he wants right and um and just keep hitting me with ideas you know keep hitting him with you like this see some people get get in with Dre and they they freeze up you know they think okay this Dre he gonna have all the ideas but he he want them because we want you to come keep coming with you know you don't care if it's wag just say it you know I mean give him an idea and then you know let us let them chop it up so yeah you know you're gonna work when you work with Dre you know bring your bring up bring a lunch for sure that's wow so I was looking up the day I forget who's uh Cruz who's uh so it was on I think it's okay if I'm not mistaken right you think that you and I'm not disagreeing Maxi the number one dish record ever yeah of all time anybody it doesn't matter if it's Jay-Z nice which dragon is this no Vaseline yeah why yeah here's why I think it's the best right because you got one MC taking out four and the manager you know what I'm saying so it's like to me you can't beat that and they perform C they're the manager yeah you know that's why you know and that's what I was you know that was part of the movie that was really interesting that you said you probably learning that when I was watching the movie and they heard the song for the first time it's good that they had Dre and everybody there he said Jerry Heller went on the Rampage in the house when the um song came on they want to sue and all type of crazy but it's a lot of diss records you've number one of them number one ever I mean you know argue with you I love you know I love this record yeah you know it's like you know I mean they shooting yeah you just pop up you think more and more of yourself okay all right you're right because when when I heard when I heard you say that I'm like I Googled I said did never they never really recovered from that man they they were to me in the process of breaking up like Dre was you know going through this is what I end up hearing after the fact you know uh in doing the movie that trade you know shortly after I left it started to get Rocky over there with with easy and Trey and so um and DLC so I don't think you know they was it was cohesive enough at the time that I dropped the record that that they could come back I think it's all because the easiest relationship with Jerry Heller I think I think Jerry taught easy what to do man easy how to rob yeah that's still going on today was a new dude coming around right and he was hanging and um he started to be like yo I like this music show I'm trying to get out of the game I want to I want to get into music I'm gonna be a manager and I'm gonna have my own label and you know we all like yeah man whatever whatever and then you know just got serious he started to come with he was like this is what the label gonna look like he started getting labeled copies made and all this stuff and we looking at this dude like yo yo and then he started to connect with people first he connect with Alonzo who ran the record crew because Dre was part of the Wrecking Crew one thing I'll say that Alonso was in everybody's documentation yeah when it comes like you know the little documentaries he was he was uh he was a hustler you know he was a um first you know he throw parties and stuff then he would uh he was high like you know book Run DMC to come yeah salt and pepper and I've never met him you know he uh so easy to start hanging with him you know what I mean then I think Jerry I mean easy Lonzo introduced easy to Jerry um and then you know Jerry started teaching easy the game and then we start making records kind of at the same time so I just felt like you know at the time easy really didn't know the game enough to be to be uh Robin you know and he had to be taught that by somebody [Laughter] yes basically and was that the reason you left the group I left the group because he lied you know and I caught him in a way you say he lied Jerry lied too um I was a young dude you know Young MC I like the whole business part of it you know I was kind of naive to it but then um I started hanging with the publicist that we had for NWA she ended up being my manager named Pat charbonnet you'll see her name on the Friday credits but uh she was saying you know you know Jerry I'm like no I don't know these dudes you know I don't know Jerry whatever she's like make sure you look at your paperwork you know I mean make sure you know I got a lawyer if you want to if you want to talk to him then Michael Ashton and uh make sure everything is straight so um so I don't want to tell Jerry I had a lawyer you know what I'm saying I was like uh my mama I said my mama said my mama want to see my contract before I signed it you know I put it on because I felt like he would think she you know that so give it to her and we'll get it back so he kept saying um I'll get it to you I'll get it I'll get it to you I'll tell you at this time I'm um it wasn't coming and then I told my mother I said calling you know and then he said uh so my mother called me so I asked him we was on the road we was on tour so I asked him I said may you talk to my mother he she said yeah he said yeah I talked to her and she cussed me out cute she called me all kind of names in the book I said back I'm like wait a goddamn man now my mama ain't gonna do that you know what I'm saying unless you did she ain't gonna do that you know I mean you not only are you handling you you in my you doing my business she ain't gonna up my business like that so I knew he lied on it and so I called her and then she went off about him lying so I said okay this is alive you can't lie on my mama and don't think I'm a yeah right yeah you're a scumbag you know what I mean so I said okay I can't trust him rely on your mama you can't trust him so they wanted us to sign the contract while we were still on the tour that's when you've seen the scene where I'm like you know so that was real so dark because we was in Phoenix Arizona we was in Phoenix Arizona and everybody's going in you know Jerry you know uh we're signing contracts today you know so everybody's going down there so it was my turn y'all didn't go together no one at a time that's crazy that's crazy but think about it not to cut you off murder just think about this because I'm like May's got his deal in 1996 and I think I'm mine in the end of 1997. this is the 80s the house strong because when when we got the right Bill we just happy to get a record deal like yeah yo we got a deal so how strong and smart you have to be to turn that down but remember my mom said she wasn't signing the contract that's the first deal we didn't get that's a fact but we just did the same thing we was like that I'm sorry because I really want to hear how this happened so he pulled show down one whole one yeah one by one it was my turn so was they happy the people that came out before like they had they they had 75 000. yeah so they were yeah [Applause] so I go in and it is it it's like dark and you know what I mean like sitting behind them you know the contracts and this light on the contracts it's like you know real interrogation sold to the devil type right yeah you know uh yeah he was it was like he was trying to inter he knew that I was asking about the contracts and so I guess he was trying to you know intimidate me or you know I had this one-on-one you know session me and him just kind of he was just gonna convince me to sign his contract so I sat down he was telling me you know the record is doing good and it's great and we got you know just money for you and everything is great and all you need to do sign this contract I'm like I said I can't sign the contract because I don't know what's in it I'm trying to have you get it to my people and you won't do it so I need to see what's in that contract before I signed it and he was like um five thousand dollars for you Cube also I said well ain't that my money anyway whether I sign it or not because the record is out right so that's my money anyway I can't give it to you easy said do not give it to you unless you signed he said easy you can't give it to us like well all right man he said you're not gonna say nothing I can't sign it I don't know what's in it I don't know what I'm signing like I just gotta go the record yeah yeah yeah right yeah yeah you know so I just got up and left and um then it started to get around to the group that I didn't sign and so we was on our way to the show it was in the it was clowning my ass in that car you know it was in the van everybody's like man 75 000 I don't give a what that say um I want my money like it was all talking about what they was going to do with their money and because like they thought I was a dummy yeah I mean I was just taking that on the chin rolling yeah you know and then that's but that's to the point what I was saying is that he's right in all the everybody I've guessed outside of rent DLC was writing okay yeah yeah so but they said so it could be harder for them to say no but that's that's what they did a skit about it and all kind of you know did all kind of yo so when America's Most Wanted came I used to go to Inglewood in the summertime to um my aunt lived in Inglewood and Cali off La Cienega and Evergreen so when that came out that's I was went back home and when the summer was over with khakis and on them chew got this going crazy I'm like a Cali cause I was going out there in 1990 1991. like three years three summers in the in a row I was going to Englewood and you had that in the smash and then I was a real NWA fan two on the album you wasn't on and I'm like oh they going hard because nobody ever knew your name and I'm like who the is those they they started calling and now I'm like oh they kind of going crazy on you right now yeah but I like that album too I'm not gonna lie and I'm like damn man like I wasn't gonna do something like if you listen to America's Most Wanted I don't mention NWA Straight up once upon a time in the Pro all that I was out there yeah so you know I was kind of out there I recall playing that was going crazy so when I came like I said I came back home wearing khakis and all types of Converse the thought I was crazy in three months yes and then I came back home yes infectious man yeah I mean you get around there and get around them folks absolutely yeah you start so what about um was I I know I always see um Dub C with you yeah it just shows everywhere you go whenever I see you perform or sometime we be at the same place and not just different times it's the West Side connection still together sometime no no we don't get down like that you know it's just me and Doug me and Doug we from the same neighborhoods okay we grew up you know right around the corner from each other so we always been down from day one and um I just happy he's still you know hang out and go out with me his own artist but he still go out with me and uh you know we've been all over the world together so it's been a great thing so what like y'all it's a problem with Matt yeah it's a problem you know I mean it's it's uh like you know it's it's a thing where where uh you know you know it's just a violation that that can't be uh that can't be overlooked okay yeah okay we'll leave it at that you want yo you mind sticking around foreign okay so we'll be right back with more questions four years and counting got you feeling like an option maybe I'm My Own problem baby [Music] okay welcome back we're still here with Ice Cube and mace had a couple questions yeah yeah yeah I wanted the more so talk about um like where did you find Chris tuck at oh man Friday Chris had done um I seen him on Def Comedy Jam yeah and um when it was time to do Friday actually uh uh DJ Pooh was supposed to play Smokey DJ Pooh he wrote the movie with me and he plays Red in in the movie so he was supposed to play Smokey new line had a problem with that because he had never done a movie before yeah and then Chris had just done house party three but he they didn't use him like they using like half a second yeah he like half a second and uh I said they underused that dude and and so when it was time to do Friday when we was looking for people they was telling me you know try Tommy Davidson and try these other people and I'm like nah I want somebody nobody has ever seen before because he's gonna feel like he from the neighborhood you know like smoking and so that's when I seen this kid that I know he could do it and then Chris Tucker like who who I said man just get him out here let us do uh um a screen test together you know I mean let's do some scenes together if it don't work out then you know we could just send him back home and so they agreed and we sat down and it was funny from jump you know yeah it was like yeah yeah this kid is like a new kid and I'm like he already been in a new line movie it was like which one house party he's like oh yeah okay he could do it since he's been in one of our movies before so that's kind of how Chris got it capitalize on what you were saying yeah I wanted to say what what made him when it went so well not come back and do like Friday too um I don't really know you know it's like we didn't decide to do the second Friday to like five years later I actually wasn't gonna ever do a sequel you know I mean I was just like that one is like it was super gone it's classic leave it alone and then um new line was bugging me y'all is it a sequel you think you could put you know is this something I'm like yeah I can think of something and then I you know I had a whole concept Then I then I realized he wasn't gonna do the second one you know at the time he said um he didn't like pushing the marijuana and so um I was like damn I was like damn you know like this is not gonna work but it's cool because I was like yeah you know we can't be on the Block without Chris I gotta take this off the block and then I was thinking okay you know Craig has a crazy cousin like we all got crazy ass cousins so yeah we're gonna go out there and deal with this crazy ass cousin and that's how Mike Epps um you know I saw him at it he was doing stand up and I was like that crazy right there right yeah did you and DJ Pooh fall out over the movie Friday at any particular time DJ Pooh what happened was um when it was time to do the sequel uh it was a situation where where um something happened with Pooh and his contract when he first signed the contract with new line so it was a situation that we cleared up um and so you know me ain't poor cool to this day we actually you know I was actually having him help me with the fourth one until you know new line you know they they didn't want to do it after we got it done but yeah it was an issue with his contract when he first signed with new line so we got that cleared up gotcha yeah yeah in my and my last question I wanted to know since it's 50 years of hip-hop just looking back all over everything recapping everything that happened between East Coast and West Coast yeah what it what um what's your outlook on it looking um I think it was something that like what could have prevented it what all that type of stuff I don't know what could have prevented it you know I think um you know it was just a kind of a territorial thing in a way um I think when it first started happening it really started happening when the West Coast started to blow up um it seemed like it took a lot of attention away and it was like some industry folks that was not liking that you know so it was a it was kind of a uh a theme going around like yo let's keep it real that keep it real they keep it real uh term came out of the East Coast West Coast beat because it was kind of like yo what we doing on the East is real hip-hop what they doing over there is just like Gang Bang music you know and it was kind of being discredited by the industry um that was bubbling before yeah Biggie and and uh pop got into it you know I remember Tim Dog did a record called Compton yeah we used to dance in the parties we didn't understand where that was coming from okay he's probably 10 11 years old but y'all was y'all whatever y'all knowing tonight y'all was a big deal on the East Coast so it got to the point where on the East Coast just so I take it as a 10 year old 11 year old like oh they can't take it no more this is the only way to get back at them because we love what y'all guys was doing as well I mean we love the East Coast our favorite groups is all East Coast groups you know what I'm saying our favorite groups wasn't West Coast groups it was you know um EPMD it was you know run Dempsey uh Rakim KRS you know those are favorite groups so when that came I was like whoa and then there was a couple other songs that kind of came out in that vein I think Master Ace had a song called slaughterhouse you know yeah and so it was bubbling and then what happened was you know the thing that happened at the source just kind of took it over the top with uh with should you know and and death row and and you know going against puffy and and uh bad boy uh Team so that's just kind of says both tens is at the top of the Heat it made it it kind of just made it go you know made it Blow um we did West Side connection because we felt like okay our our Legacy is going to be erased you know we we had a blip of you know six seven years but that that all would be erased if we don't like put a flag in the ground and be like yo this West Coast this is us we did have an impact in hip-hop because the whole industry we felt was on the East Coast you know I was like you know on TV raps BT it's like everything that we needed was on the east coast and we felt like yo if we got this sentiment going and we don't we're gonna put our flag in the ground a whole a whole time that we bubble might get erased gotcha you know so that was kind of art our take on it and um I'm glad we passed that you know I think that time with the East and the West going at each other it made the South blow up too you know it gave an opening for the South so now you have pretty much three coasts yeah that's that's bubbling that's that's really good because and not to cut yourself but I was thinking about that as you was talking because I can remember those times and it's funny how on the East Coast we think in the same way the exact opposite but the same way we're thinking well they got we got the um we got music but we got to go to La for everything we got to go out there to do movies we got to go out there to the awards so it's funny to hear you say that because on the opposite side we're thinking the exact same thing yeah we was we was worried that the industry would look at our like discredit our our you know our time that we had you know from NWA I went iced tea on you know we don't want that to happen and you know it's it's crazy because you know at the end of the day I think both coasts really respect each other and respect you know each other's contribution to the game and um it's just a it's just a dark period in hip-hop yeah this would be my last sorry mates this will be my last question because I know y'all gonna miss me off so I know she want to ask you I capitalizing off what mace was saying you when you left the group NWA you were one of the first people like to work with 90 PM your Public Enemy did you take any backlash from the West Coast with messing with like Public Enemy because they were from the East Coast were they cool with that not at all you know they it was cool my favorite producers was the bomb squad you know it wasn't Drake right it was like I I love I love Public Enemy right you know and I love uh the production you know I think you know when it comes to sampling nobody was better than the bomb squad you know you got Eric Sally Hank Shockley Keith Shockley um Chuck D and so I was happy you know I was like yo I got the best producers in the game we're about to work on my project and um I did hear that that when when when they heard I was on the East Coast making a record that they laughed because they just thought it wouldn't work you know it was like yo taking this West Coast to the end it's just gonna be a right yeah train wreck right and uh and so it wasn't because you know we have brought a lot of records with us you know me and uh sir jinx we have brought some records with us that we was actually going to do so we we was like dedicated to make sure that it it still had West Coast flavor in it even though it was done Green Street Studios right there in New York right there you know do you have a quick question actually for all all y'all so would you consider yourself a fan of today's hip-hop um some of it I don't you know a fan a fan is somebody you know that that's constantly you know buying it from you know kind of absorbing it um you know I ain't in it like that I think I would also say to answer your question before Cube goes because the second of that study has to go is that I may not listen to all of it but what I do say is that you gotta let because I got friends who hate on it like yo this garbage and all this stuff and I think it's generation I think that you gotta let the 19 year olds like with the 19 year olds like oh you got like the 15 year old like with the 15 year olds like oh she's gonna sound like an old ass hater you know what I'm saying because when you was 19 there was somebody over your grandmother may be like what the are you listening to that I don't I can't understand that I try to get into it like I come at it with that angle you know if the youngsters is playing it yeah I want to know what they like about it why why they into it you know right and some some of it I feel some of it I think you know it's a lack of quality is there by chance a specific artist that comes to mind that y'all don't understand the hype [Music] thank you for being here as always stay tuned for the next episode and you all know it is what it is [Music] [Music] [Music]

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Published: Wed Jul 26 2023