I Was Smuggling Drugs and Phones Into Prison | Minutes With | @LADbible

a car pulled up next to me the window wound down i got chucked a package into my car which was yeah big and then i got chucked 400 pounding rolled up notes to which point i'm sat in a car then thinking you know what i've just done [Music] what was the training like to become a prison officer um looking back on it now not substantial enough um but it was all engineered around the classroom basically and learning you know via powerpoint etc there's no prisoner facing there's no there's no environment that you can replicate when you go onto a wing for the first time and there's 130 young men there and there's nothing that can replicate that i remember opening the doors to the wing and all of a sudden the thing i remember most is the noise the noise was something else and to see 120 lads basically running wild and it was well it was breathtaking um i worked primarily in lancaster farms which is a young offender institute in lancaster which houses um lads from manchester and liverpool mainly and there's a few kind of local lads mixed in but mainly the big gangs from manchester and liverpool they all come into lancaster farms and then they cross fire there at that point i felt scared at that point i questioned what i'd done and i didn't let anyone know because at the time the ego and the brevard all took over but yeah inside i was i was worried and i knew i'd made a probably not the best decision the first 18 months there was no issues whatsoever the second eighth well the second period of my employment there i was drinking heavily massively um to try and i don't know maybe i just couldn't cope with it you know the stress was it was it was horrible so i think over a period of time the prisoners would have probably picked up on the fact that i wasn't doing too well i remember one day i knew this lad's dad was ill and one of the cleaners came to me and said can you go another word with ex-prisoner and i said yeah no problem so i've gone into the cell and the lad was in in bits in tears on the bed um saying that he needed to speak to his dad urgently as his dad wasn't well he's got no phone credit please please please can you bring me a mobile phone and to which i've said no i've been getting gone off my dinner what i should have done at that point is reported that to the prison but i didn't i just kept it in my head went off to play football at dinner came back and same again unlock all the prisoners go off the wing to work to education to do whatever and the same instance again that's still in tears please will you bring me a mobile phone in now this has been on my mind all dinner time and he said to me as i was sat on the end of the bed to him i'll give you 400 pounds to bring me one more ball falling and i don't know why at that point i walked out of the cell again didn't tell anyone didn't say anything to him i just walked out and he asked me again and and i don't know why but i said yeah and i was then passed a mobile phone number on a little piece of paper and told to ring the number when i left work and i've driven out of the city thinking i you know i was some kind of mastermind went to use a telephone box and run the number and i was asked where i was i said right well i'm 10 minutes from junction whatever a car pulled up next to me the window wound down i got asked are you lee i said yeah and then there was two lads in a car one of them had like a hoodie on and whatnot and then all i got i got chucked a package into my car which was yeah big and then i got chucked 400 pound in rolled up notes to which point i'm sat in a card and thinking you know what i've just done all the while i've got in my mind how am i going to get this pack of this phone this package into the prison in the morning in prisons the prison i worked i think in my stint of three and a half years i think it was actually searched three or four times so the balance of probability was in my favor but again obviously it was still a big worry so i stuffed it down my pants in the morning so obviously pulling into the car park i'm trying to look around the car part thinking is this some kind of ploy is it a you know a setup so i just decided to go for it everything looked normal everything felt normal i just wanted to get it out of my house gone into the second door where it is the point of no return you know there's big signs on the thing you will face ten years in jail if you bring contraband past this you know point and just as i've walked down as if i was going down onto my wing and the lad that i was doing it with was stood at the bars waiting for me as if to say is it so i just nodded walked into the prison i've then gone into the cell to which he was sat on the end of the bed he said have you got it i said yes and at that point there's a few people knocking about walked out of the cell walked back in later on took it out and just said there you go don't ask me again now looking back on it that's exactly how it was but i knew full well in my mind then i'd been turned i'd been turned by cash albeit 400 pounds it's nothing really i knew that i'd got away with it or in my mind i thought it got away with it so i agreed to do it again um to which i've now earned now on a thousand pounds in two smuggles call it i become quickly addicted to the cash and the stupidity around it and the adrenaline i think it was it was stupid so what exactly were you smuggling apart from mobile phones initially mobile phones i never had anything to do with the packages as in they were given to me sealed ready done after three times of doing it i realized that there was probably well i knew there was cannabis in it i could smell the cannabis the first two i mean were all fairly savvy people i had a smell of it i couldn't tell you exactly what was in it and neither did i really want to know because i didn't want to get involved with it um but the third package i definitely knew there was cannabis in there so how many packages did you smuggle in total do you reckon in total i don't know maybe a year's worth of a year's worth of two a week maybe something like that where are you scared of doing that i think i become numb to it and blase to it because also as well you know the guilt and the shame involved you're going home i mean i'll be your cash rich but you're a no one really aren't you everybody can see through you because i've become a recluse i didn't want to meet anyone i didn't socialize with anyone from the prison stop seeing my mates because i just become insular into what i was doing was there any support in place for the prison officers absolutely not they i know they're changing it they have changed dramatically over the past five to ten years they're starting prison officers on somewhat ridiculous like 18 000 pounds you can go and earn that working in gold burrito it's it's bizarre because corruption will always be there but when you're putting a bigger temptation like that and not giving them the proper training and obviously not making them aware then it's it's putting young people at risk they didn't even have such a thing as a like a bully officer or a uh what you call it a mentor back in my day you you were just chucked on a wing and it is like i said before it is pretty intimidating if you're not that kind of you've got to be a special person i think to do that job clearly clearly i wasn't good you know i wasn't um suitable for it but yeah i no i don't think um i don't think there was much support back then so how did you get caught i've got two three packages at my house and i thought i need to get rid of these quick and then i'm done i've gone into the jail the first door's gone back usual story there was nothing untoward and just as i've walked down as if i was going down onto my wing there's a door open at the side and it's my wing manager and he said can i have a word i said yeah no problem now obviously at that point that that wasn't untoward because sometimes you would have a detailed do you know if there'd been a problem the night before if there'd have been a cell farm you might get a detail on your way in so i wasn't worried at that point um he said can you step in here a minute i need to ask you something i don't want to ask you have you got anything on you that you shouldn't have i said no and he said right okay he said i need to take you upstairs there's a search team waiting for you um north west search team and i was like right and i knew obviously at that point it was up i've walked up the stairs there's two dogs three or four officers a governor um and i've walked towards the dogs and i thought what am i doing you know and i just said look with all you know respect i'm gonna give you what you want so i said if you can just allow me to go into my thing and i give them i said look i'm sorry there it is and he said well we're still gonna have to search you anyway you know the protocol i said yeah that's fine at that point i just literally sat at the desk and thought thank god it's over i don't have to make that decision anymore somebody's taking it out of my hands um so then taken down to the police station and at that point i'm still in full prisoner officer uniform so epileps i pretty much look like a policeman so i've been taken into the cells and obviously all the other prisoners are now seeing what they believe is a copper put into the cells so they were banging on the doors you know there's a there's a pig in here there's there and it was just again the noise levels were unreal stupidly enough i was seeing another girl on my wing at the time and she had been caught she'd run straight to the government and said i'm not involved with doing what he's doing however we have been sleeping together so my girlfriend's got wind of this her mum's got wind of this i've spent all day in the police cells obviously not knowing what's going on or not knowing what's waiting for me outside i mean how ridiculous is that pretty much just ruined everything that i ever had and i was on bail for for about a year and that's when things really started to unravel i'd started taking cocaine to alleviate what was going on um so i would drink in the day take cocaine in the night or or vice versa and then drink it was just that one big vicious cycle of trying to numb what was coming really trying to numb the pain and the guilt what was the prison sentence you got uh four years the girl picked me up in the van who i knew in the prison van and i said where you taking me and she said oh we're going to shrewsbury and i think this was probably the most poignant moment in my prison sentence in the sense of when reality hit i went through reception signed me in and i said i'm lee davis and you know the prisoner the prison officer just looked at me and went yeah we know who you are i remember speaking to my mum and i just crumbled um thankfully at that point there was no more prisoners around but i think when you hear someone's voice when you've gone through what you've gone through that day and you hear your mum's voice and she says are you all right and you kind of say yeah but you know you're not and i think at that point i just that was the first time that i'd properly crumbled i think and it was the only time really imprisoned that i did mentally crumble because after that i put up like a i think you have to you have to act because that's what prison is it's all about acting who people think you might be or who you know you don't want to get ie you know the prisoners and whatnot you don't want to be seen as weak you don't want to be seen as a pushover so you have to become almost an actor how would other prisoners treat an ex-prison guard among them i think it all depends on how you carry yourself if you look in the eyes of the crime that i committed technically in the criminal eyes i was on their side um i was actually okay but i know it can go very wrong having said that i did trying i obviously kept my head down and didn't get involved in anything did you witness any instances when it went really wrong in my first jail there was three policemen two prison officers all on various different offences the policeman has followed me from my closed conditions prison into the open prison so therefore you're in just in belays you can get up to what you want really you're in like an raf camp and they've put him in the same cell as me the policeman i'm working three days in the prison helping prisoners with admin court applications etc etc in in what they call the hub going out two days a week to college to retrain to be an electrician so i'm sat in my cell one day kettle was on a dinner fortune i don't know loose women or whatever and there's a knock on the door and the hatch is open bang bang bang and it's the two lads i'll work within the hub right all right and i thought oh christ what's going on here so let us in let us in sort of sat in the under my bed and he said right we know about you you're a next prison officer i said right so i'm now thinking what's coming uh right well we're not too bothered about that we've known about that the problem is that the lad you're sharing a room with is an ex-policeman i said all right i mean i knew but you know obviously i didn't want to let i said all right not only that he's the next drugs officer and he's been having lads off going out to drug raids taking half back to the station taking half for the from themselves and for profit so technically having drug dealers off and lads have recognized him in here and tonight you need to be off this belay i said what do you mean i said tonight just make sure you're not in this room tonight because we don't want you getting involved with what's going to happen and did that because i know that if i go and tell the prison i know that's me i know that's me um either being transported out or i was going to lose my college course i mean that was what was retraining to be my future so i'd seen this lad and he's got family he's got three daughters and all i could see was his family and his wife in visits in the old prison and i thought now's the right time to make a right decision you know this might i'm gonna know it's not gonna write what i've done wrong but there are certain times in life where you need to make the right decision it can go wrong it would have gone wrong but thankfully i'd stopped it how does it feel to be around so much violence on daily basis do you know i actually think i think i went off adrenaline i think because looking back on it now because i'd worked in the prison and the prison i worked in was quite full on and violent as in you mean we all know what 21 year old lads are like especially when you've got two rival gangs from cities in the prison i worked in before dinner time you could be attending 10 alarm bells so before you've even sat down for a cup of coffee you're rolling around the floor with six lads wanting to knock lumps out of each other so i think it probably prepared me in a weird kind of way for prison life i didn't find the prison part of it mentally difficult it was afterwards is where i struggled so what did you do to rebuild your life after prison i really re-enrolled on the electrical course uh managed to scrape together some money paid for it myself re-trained to be an electrician struggled to find work as an electrician because obviously at my age they're expecting experience and whatnot so i did the odd day on site here and there so i started in this firm yet again temporary contract and at this point i got fed up declaring it and i've never not got a job if i've gone for an interview but i'd had that many kind of little knockbacks and i knew that i wasn't getting jobs because of it you know very simple jobs very job jobs i was well qualified for i just wanted a chance you know i just wanted to work again so i've looked here and i thought i'm not going to declare it it's 30 miles from my house it's in a place where people might not know me i've started to work everything's going fantastic probably six weeks in really well they took three lads on and we're all still there we're doing very well decent money and i thought yeah again back on track this was on my birthday actually so i've gone in on the morning the shift manager said have you got a minute he said have you got an unspent conviction and i said ah yeah he said is it on your phone i said no he said lee why haven't i put it on your phone i saw it i kind of give him the story anyway it's don't come about i said look i'm gonna have to let you go because you know you've not declared it on your form obviously you've not been honest et cetera et cetera and at that point i thought what do i have to do to get back into this world and after probably i'd say about two or three months of not working i thought i've i'm done with this i'm done with this life um i couldn't i couldn't get back to where i wanted to be there was always games in my mind of you'll never be what you was all the guilt the guilt follows you so much and that's been the worst part for me the guilt will always follow you um and i just thought i i've tried it doing it legitimately i've tried lying i can't get back i can't get back to where i want to be so unfortunately one night i decided to end it thank god the um the hospital was was amazing and the paramedic team were i didn't attempt to do it ever again because like i said it wasn't uh that that was me i was done and dusted you know it wasn't um a case of me doing it just to get a bit of attention or to to make someone aware because i think everybody knew i was feeling anyway so i did i haven't done it again and thank god are you cleaning up drugs now everything alcohol and drugs were my kind of comfort to a certain degree because i like i've said i've never until recently i've never spoke about i couldn't speak to about you know all the people i used to work with i couldn't speak to them [Music] what's in the future now for you um i'm well obviously like i said i've retrained to be an electrician so i'm working and the prison service have been in contact and asked if i would like to get involved with training new recruits and doing bits and bobs for them so we're exploring that at the moment so maybe maybe that will be redemption i mean it's been a long way around but maybe that would be some kind of redemption and i'm happy with that i'm happy to carry on doing what i'm doing um and who knows you know my parents had technically lost a son you know for a certain period i've lost my girlfriend an intern i lost my house you know all for the sake of what a few quid and over 11 years of of what it's taken me to get back to even if it was let's for instance say it was 50 grand what's 50 grand over 11 years just for it's just stupidity greed that lad wasn't on that wing very long he went to the gym one day someone found out what he'd done um i remember the lad and he hit him with a dumbbell in the face he went to hospital and i never saw him again

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Length: 21min 51sec (1311 seconds)

Published: Sun Jan 23 2022