I Give Up - WAN Show April 14, 2023

and welcome to the WAN show it's still Friday right yeah yeah not for long but I blame Luke we've got a lot of great topics for you today first and foremost being what is up with the title and headline it's because I lose Today's show is going to be pretty AI heavy so Luke is going to get to talk about AI agents gaining steam that is um pretty vague and also Elon Musk pivoting Twitter to an AI everything app whatever that means like we're talking about today Microsoft so I'm going to announce the non-ai topics and you're going to announce that I figured that would be fun Microsoft could be working on a Windows handheld mode for steam deck alikes I'm excited or similar to that that is actually pretty interesting we'll talk about more about that later though um also oh do we talk about this one this is going to be the Elon show no pick anything else um um the 40 70 release I don't know all right which one did you pick [Music] the show is brought to you today by jumpcloud Goliath Technologies and see Sonic all right why don't we jump right into our headline topic here today which is AI agents gaining steam yeah um why don't I read it and then you can spend the next 25 minutes talking about what I read sure there's been a surge in development of AI agents interjection these are applications that allow large language models to operate semi-autonomously by feeding prompts to themselves until they have achieved a broad General goal given to them by the user sort of correct currently trending on GitHub is auto GPT which uses gpt4 to generate prioritize and execute tasks using plugins for internet browsing and other access it uses outside memory to keep track of what it's doing and provide context which lets it evaluate its current situation generate new tasks or self-correct and add new tasks to the queue which it then prioritizes Auto GPT currently has a notable tendency to become distracted or confused when given complex goals often getting caught in recursive loops and leaving tasks half finished users have been creating tools that allow Auto GPT to perform more tasks including one that allows it to access and use Bitcoin wallets before I go any further do you want talk a little bit about AI agents you said that my definition was not quite correct so I invite you to give a better one yeah it mentions something about them being able to just give themselves more than one prompt yes a big part of the idea is that they can use other systems so like they can use an image generator they can use uh some other model whatever services that aren't even AI based Etc they can call out to other services they don't just have to use their own stuff also I like that we're calling them AI agents Auto GPT has been used as like a what I'm calling like a Kleenex term right like a lot of people have been calling all of them Auto GPT even though there is one specific one called Auto GPT whatever the auto GPT name is actually really good which is why I think that's happening other people are calling them like baby AGI I don't like that sorry like not a fan of artificial general intelligence yeah but they're calling it like a baby version because it can like task out to other things and and improve on itself and do stuff like that this is like the whole thing where we rebranded machine learning as AI when that's not really what it is right that's just branding we we rebranded driving assists as autopilot yeah like uh I promise We're not gonna talk about him the whole show I do I do really like yeah Auto GPT is a fantastic name there's a bunch of these systems there's actually a load like a huge amount of them because it's it's the trend right now and in this whole Space if something catches on even slightly you can absolutely bet there will be a ton of it almost immediately now you've given some examples of things that people are doing with these agents on past shows but is there a new stuff that's come to light this week or just a refresher for those of us who right now it sounds very vague and nebulous well it can call to stuff and it can do things what are some of the things people are doing with this so basically with with current with what most people currently have access to if all they do is like go to open ai's website is gbt4 or 3.5 or below and with that you can usually get the steps that you would need to do to accomplish something sure how to do it how do I build a computer right so instead of how do I build a computer and it listing steps you could say how do I build a computer and it could actually just like order it for me potentially if you hooked it up to the right things because like someone has actually used it um to buy their groceries for the week they're like I need I need recipes for a week these are the types of things that I like this is the grocery store whatever they hooked it up to some grocery delivery service that I don't remember the name of and it actually purchased the groceries and made it so that like oh you bought a can of this you only need x amount of it for one meal but I picked a different meal so you're not eating the same thing all the time that will use the rest of it in order to be efficient like it did all this stuff that was really really really good it planned their meals for the week it ordered everything for them it gave them recipes for all of the meals and it efficiently used the ingredients do you remember when microtransactions took off in mobile games and every other flip and win show we were talking about some kid going to town on Mom or Dad's credit card buying a bunch of jewels or twitch bits or whatever else it is racking up thousands adults how long is it gonna be before someone sues open AI for chat GPT spending a whole bunch of their money when they were the ones who were irresponsible enough to give it their credit card oh it's gonna be a problem you you mentioned in here connecting it to bitcoin wallets right yeah well people are using that to use GPT style models to bet on markets for them that is a hundred percent already happening there is even uh these websites where you can get uh like auto trading Bots for like uh coin exchanges and they already have like you can build your own bot using GPT models and give it its own weights and everything using that instead of needing to code it yourself etc etc yeah it's getting it's getting pretty nuts I I was reading one thread on a person who spent I think it was like I think they said roughly eight hours like tuning things in and what not working with I believe it was Auto GPT specifically but I don't fully remember um and they they made a tool I don't remember what the tool did but they got like a thousand users for their tool and were able to sell their like startup company all within like a week which is just that's crazy yeah people are also talking about uh I forget who I was talking to but they were saying they know of someone who basically gave it a little bit of money and said go build an online business it built it got like what a thousand users or something like that and some obscenely short period of time and then sold it yep there's also someone has actually even just asked it get me money without giving it any money and what it did is it like asked them for some of their like personal details and stuff and it scraped government websites and it scraped uh websites that do um man what is it called when there's like a lawsuit or something you like bought a product and you recalls or like yeah yeah so it's great like class action lawsuit uh things and it grabbed everything it could for them like different grants from government because of whatever details about the person and whatever class action lawsuits they were eligible to get money from etc etc et cetera and it made them like a few hundred bucks like it wasn't even that small of an amount of money unbelievable yeah there's a really cool experiment do you want to keep reading or do you want me to do it uh sure yeah you know what you just my brain is tired Stanford and Google researchers have been performing a series but this is this is wild to me we were actually talking last week about AI integration into games and how it might be able to get yeah so this is particularly very interesting yeah he messages me this white paper like earlier this week like that's basically like message content that's honestly more accurate than I would like to admit uh Stanford and Google researchers have been performing a series of experiments with similar AI powered agents by having llms control 25 characters within a virtual town the characters can communicate interact with their environment remember events reflect on those events and form plants each is pre-loaded with a starting Persona and an existing relationship with the other characters in the game over the course of several in-world days the characters engaged in a series of complex interactions based on those starting conditions researchers told one this is the really cool part in my opinion researchers told one generative agent to host a Valentine's Day party without any further human intervention the character invited nine other characters who then passed on the information to four other characters beyond that the characters remembered the invitation reorganized their daily schedule in response to it with one asking another officially on a like romantic date to the event prove to me whoa now that we are not living in a simulation oh boy we're doing the the Silicon Valley Tech bro conversation you can't prove it's not a stimulation um yeah I don't know I think what this made immediately made me think of is like because you were talking about how like ah you want tailored conversations for your games yeah like you don't really want an llm to just go in and write all the text for the game because yeah because I I want it's kind of like okay it's kind of like playing breath of the wild compared to playing a game that has an auto-generated environment like yeah okay you and I went these are these are examples that are pulled from vastly different eras of gaming so I I understand that they are not directly comparable but we did a run of Diablo one yeah a while back just like you know nighttime gaming those generated dungeons end of all kind of being samey like there's some difference in that you don't know what's around the next Corner sort of but there's also no flow to them whereas exploring in breath of the Wild it it it's it's art yes it's Artful you you will stumble upon things because there was an intentful purposeful um whatever the narrative Direction going on there's a direction of things that you're supposed to experience when you go through different areas and AI has a an issue with hallucinations as I uh maybe I mentioned that in the pre-show um or uh getting distracted as you just mentioned yeah how they can get distracted or confused when tasks are really large tasking it with doing something that big holding that narrative the whole way through it current versions right now maybe I'm wrong in two months I don't know but current versions are going to struggle with that very seriously but Skyrim style like you need to try to make sure that all the people have jobs that they go to every day and they do stuff and they react to the world those Baseline like NPCs that aren't technically important making environments feel populated yes yeah it's going to be super good at that totally a different game yeah it's just when it gets to dialogue that's where I am really not sure about it because I don't want them to say something different if there isn't new content for me to engage with yeah with that said it is a matter of time before there's a game where you are just dumped into essentially an MMO that is entirely populated with AI agents that level up and Quest and have jobs and build New Towns for you to explore to the point where when you go back and you re-engage it is new stuff and things have happened and you do need to catch up on events and it's happening constantly all the time everywhere I mean man when we first started talking about stadia and cloud gaming I didn't realize it yet but this this is the kind of gaming experience that that should have enabled imagine yeah imagine an escape from tarkov like experience where you are warping into but instead of an instance a persistent world and then you you know every six months or whatever it is you do a wipe and it's a it's a brand new world I feel like I feel like Hardcore gameplay actually benefits from this like more like imagine a a permadeath RPG oh but your effects a hundred percent remain and I know there's like there's like roguelikes that go in this direction already someone already mentioned it but like Sao yeah if you've watched the the like first half season of Sao the good part um it's it's kind of like the the impacts of your previous character not only are they detectable as they are sometimes in like roguelike games but they like extremely impact the world and there's this Butterfly Effect where someone comes in murders the son of some AI agent Baker who swears Vengeance on every player character and there's like a plague put through the town through the bread sold at the bakery you could have all these different attributes that could even be slightly rng'd that apply to these to these NPCs and depending on how people interact with them they could turn into like you could oh man like you could not even assign a big Baddie to this world yeah there could just be many potential big baddies that form there could be four armies that are aligned against each other and then through natural events of them you know wanting to gain position on each other big baddies just are created dynamically in the world could be super interesting could be super interesting hideo Kojima apparently had the idea of a raw game uh this is according to float plane chat back in 1998 and apparently it's something kind of like this uh yeah someday you can tell game developers have wanted to do this type of stuff for a long time well it's it's one of the Holy Grails it's like it's like true uh it's like true physics-based object interaction attempts have been made yeah and even games where it plays a significant role in gameplay whether we're talking about rainbow six or some of the earlier Battlefield games destructible environments it's been done but nothing would be like a persistent environment where you can you know maybe not quite like a Minecraft or fortnite but where you can build and also destroy realistically nothing like that actually exists I feel like it increases how much you care about your decisions in the game because yeah your decisions in the game are going to impact your next playthrough but in a more serious way than most games that attempt to do that right now actually will the way like the way looting in towns or encampments or whatever else would work because if those agents are stealing from other player characters and from each other and if there are enough AI agents that are working the land you know producing raw raw materials and resources the the world this game world will naturally become enriched over time if you do the the classic Legend of Zelda smash all the pots in like your favorite town you could like bankrupt the town oh wow I didn't even like think of that like you're gonna have to actually not be a big jerk unless that's what you want for the world or it could be full of really good stuff because it's secret you know after 10 p.m the this town is cannibal do you think they're really cool but but they're actually like stealing and cannibalizing the areas around them or whatever yeah Dwarf Fortress Yeah Dwarf Fortress so this would be sick they do have a persistent mode yeah there's a lot of games that have that have done these types of things I I'm struggling to describe what I'm I'm trying to say but I think this is going to enable a new level of it if you know what I mean see dark 24 and float plane chat says that would never work in a multiplayer game because people are trolls that's the thing if you have an expansive enough world and enough of these AI agents well they're going to learn from the behavior that they see and you're going to create a very adversarial type of world I think what you could probably do is you could tailor the gaming experience by having worlds with different rules so the AI agents all start with the same basic you know alignments or the same basic resources or jobs or whatever else it is but in some worlds you you know there's no player versus player or in some worlds there's no player versus good aligned NPCs or you know whatever these Baseline rules are and I think that would really that would really alter the course of the world's development and people could pick their play style based on what type of world they select to warp into yeah and like if you're in a if you're in a like full PVP enabled world and the players do just attack everything all the time it would make sense for the agents to start training themselves more aggressively investing in armaments yeah and if you created a world that had lesser resources in certain regions well those would be lower level regions um so you could still have kind of similar to what you'd see in an MMO you could still have a training area where PVP is disabled and you know all the AI agents are kind of serious or whatever because you couldn't actually Nerf the NPCs too far or else all the low-level areas would just disappear yeah exactly yeah it's interesting so yeah what about ruining the game economy by selling too many materials into town like if you sell too much bread in a town you could bankrupt the baker the the some of these types of systems already exist yeah um but the the Quake impacts of them yeah across the world I feel like it would be self-balancing to a point right because if there's a if there's a fixed amount of resource anytime someone amasses too much someone's going to be gunning for them oh so like you have like assassins coming after you or whatever yeah something like that yeah if you have to actually cart your goods around oh that that's a really interesting thing so you add you just add these like these realism uh counter balances to the ways that people will try to break the game and it's obviously something that will be broken in a new way every wipe it would have to be really really hard it's the kind of game it would have to be like realism hard it's the kind of game that you could play Forever yeah pretty much yeah anyways um the discussion questions for this topic are what are the likely applications and limitations of this type of Technology what kind of difference would it make in people's lives if they had this kind of AI assistant um the the most interesting like actually use it myself use case that I think I saw was that uh the groceries one yeah because we've talked like there's been there's been oh this fridge will like reorder milk for you or whatever um but that seems to have kind of gone away I don't know if it didn't work that well or what I mean probably but I haven't heard people talk about it in like a long time there are fridges so they were made by Appliance manufacturers which is probably true tell you how good the song was um but like I I also know a lot of people that say like one of the most annoying things they have to do every week is like figure out what the heck they're gonna eat um so if you can just tell it like I like these things I need groceries for a week and it can just figure it out for you I think a lot of people would just be happy with that I don't know and if it can actually order the groceries for you and they just like show up and then what's great is the longer you interact with it the better it gets because you can say this was great this was trash this was a seven out of ten this was too hard to cook this was too boring to cook if that's a metric that you care about I don't have the right tools to cook this one different things like that um there's a lot of there's a lot of sort of media whether it's games or movies that people are pointing out is similar to what we've been talking about it's pretty similar to the free ground forever yeah what's exciting right now is that there's a path to it yeah a real realistic path to this gaming experience existing because up until now at levels of depth that we haven't really seen we've we've reached a point where creating a Next Generation gaming experience has become functionally impossible I mean look at the budget look at the time they spent on GTA 5. you know look at how long CD projekt Red was working on cyberpunk look how long they've been working on the Next Generation Witcher game because to hand craft every element of the environments and interactivity and and questing and items and whatever it is is no longer feasible if you're trying to make a bigger game than what came last especially now that games is a service is such a pervasive concept within the industry because you don't just GTA 6 doesn't just have to be bigger than GTA 5. it has to be bigger than GTA 5 plus the 10 flipping years of work that they've done on GTA 5 since they launched it it's actually impossible it's it's pretty ridiculous you can't you can't you can't catch up to yourself there's also been running for 10 years there's also reward systems and games that are holding that type of stuff back this is a slightly different conversation but like uh CS go CS go 2 or whatever is coming I don't get access because I'm not a cool streamer person um but uh the they were one of the first things in their announcement was talking about how like yes don't worry you'll be able to keep your skins that doesn't work that great for every game yeah it does work really well for Counter-Strike yeah but like where's my Oblivion horse armor now yeah what if the next game doesn't have horses and so they don't want to create oh yeah you don't want to create an environment where people feel like well I would be a whale and I would spend thousands or tens of thousands of dollars on this game if there's a new one coming and I can't take my stuff with me and you see the kind of backlash that developers are getting from you know oh well we're gonna do a new one and yeah forget about your old stuff uh oh man shoot who was it over not OverWatch no uh um new version coming uh old version turned off game hold on crap that's why tarkov's wipe system is great yeah I I I think it just needs a white plate is it is that the one a lot of people are saying Arc I don't know much about it yeah I think people are upset about art because they have a new one coming and then they uploaded a remaster or they they they released a remaster of the original even though the second one is coming but then they want to chart they wanted to charge for the remaster and they were going to disable access to the first one so essentially it was like a forced upgrade to like Mark 1.1 when arc2 was coming or something like that that's gross yeah so this is that's not quite related to what we were talking about actually now that I think about it a bit more but um it's a way that game developers are going to have to figure out or it's an example of how game developers are gonna have to figure out how to manage this relationship as they rev their software knowing that their previous games as a service either isn't gone or or either is gone and they have to figure out how to smooth that over or isn't gone and they have to incentivize people to move on to the next thing apparently it's not just a remaster but you have to repay for all of the DLCs nice that's ridiculous um speaking of moving on yeah why don't we talk about our next big oh hold on a second we want to no we want to jump to a non-ai Riley says Luke look at this what quote unquote a really big deal dolly is a free open source chat GPT style AI model yeah oh uh so we've uh We've we've talked about a few different open source chat GPT style model this is just what you're talking about where you bring the whole processing load locally yeah so there's a couple of these that are already out um I think this is literally trained off of the predecessors um like uh Lama and alpaca I think it's just a like better more advanced version of those I haven't looked super deeply into this but I I do believe it's essentially the same deal but like just much stronger than lemon alpaca where all right let's talk about really big deal yeah like I haven't looked I haven't like downloaded this and ran it myself yet but as far as my understanding goes it's just like a way more advanced version of those all right let's do it do what the one the one yep we have to talk about Twitter we're just going straight down the list let's do it Elon Musk pivots to AI uh you know he was talking about the everything app in the past so if you're doing an everything app then you have to chase the flavor of the month all the time and that means right now chasing AI uh musk has recently hired Talent from Google subsidiary deepmind and purchased around 10 000 gpus in an apparent pivot towards development of a chat GPT rival um at the or some other AI based thing I'd maybe say open AI not chat gbt at the same time Twitter Inc has been folded into x-corp that's an interesting one one of two corporate entities created in March alongside x dot AI it's unclear precisely what form this new AI project will take I genuinely don't know anyone that is confident in what the heck they would be doing but it is likely it likely has something to do with the Elon Musk proposed everything app as we mentioned earlier which he calls X according to musk he wants to make the X app analogous to WeChat in terms of functionality musk has announced that Twitter slash x-corp will now be Auto replying to press inquiries with poop emojis making it difficult to get straight A straightforward comment on the future direction of the company very cool Elon also announced Twitter subscriptions creators can charge followers for exclusive long-form tweets and hours-long video or shorter up two hours long video basically upgraded super follows with Twitter forfeiting their cut of the revenue for the first year also known as a marketing budget tell me you're desperate without telling me you're desperate yeah can I can I pitch a theory here yeah I feel like a lot of the other coverage and conversation that I've seen around this has been you know what game of 4D chess is he playing uh you know what will be what will be the vision for the everything app or whatever whatever else it is um I actually think it is way simpler than that here's my here's my cynical um the simplest answer is probably the correct answer Theory I think he wants to unload Twitter so it makes sense to fold it into something else so now it's X Corp okay which like is cool or something I think that by by tying x-corp to this everything app slash it's working on AI kind of you know BS Silicon Valley startup kind of nebulous that is a cool Factor brand there's more than 2 000 AI startups in the last week if I remember correctly yeah so it makes sense yep so so so creating value creating a perceived value by throwing his very loud noise making skills at a really big buzzword um could give him an opportunity to dump Twitter before anyone realizes that they're not actually doing anything other than buying gpus which has also been in the headlines because nvidia's been talking about how cryptocurrency stupid AI is our future everyone needs to buy gpus for AI we're Nvidia let's go there there are other processors for yeah I mean Nvidia is very dominant in the space right now but they are not going to be the only one forever yeah um so I I actually think it's just the simplest and you know why would he why would he avoid press inquiries well because press asks uncomfortable questions man that interview I haven't watched that I've watched some clips from it I've been told I should watch it but it's pretty rough um because the Press asks uncomfortable questions and doesn't just ask them but expects a real well thought out answer they're not just going to accept whatever stupid thing you say so by stonewalling any serious inquiry about what's going on he gives himself the only speakers gavel or speakers staff or you know whatever thing the speaker holds in this particular weird timeline we're on um allowing himself to build this Narrative of what x-corp slash Twitter slash xai actually is under this shroud of secrecy where actually it's just doing weird little proofs of concept with Engineers it borrows from Tesla or whatever and then hopefully he can find someone stupid enough to put a bunch of investment money into this so that he can dump his share somehow and just get the crap away from this dumpster fire I think he's just I think this is just a loss minimizing strategy and I think it's it's it maybe it's just because I'm a very cynical person at this point but it seems pretty it seemed it's pretty transparent somewhat go in line with a move that I've seen from a couple little startups recently which is why that where they they find an engineer that they feel like they can label as a superstar like llm AI machine learning engineer they pay them big Megabucks to come on board they buy a ton of gpus they slap a label on their project and they just try to flip it like literally like that week yep there's some there's some flips that have been happening very very fast there's also big money in this type of engineering right now because you know Twitter buying 10 000 gpus these are expensive like a100 big super chip very big money like 45 000 on eBay graphics cards right now 45 000 or 4 500 45 000. uh is that just scalping that's going on right now like is this yeah yeah how much is a hopper let me see if I can find h100 GPU let's go 42 000 for a Tesla h100 h100 sorry not a 100 yeah that's the last gen you're thinking of my bad uh but yeah I don't think these were worth that much before uh yeah probably not um because the problem is a lot of these companies that you know some of them might just be trying to cash in on like the.com 2.0 hype kind of thing some of them also have very good ideas and they need these gpus to power those ideas and they can't get them they got investor money they're going to get them somehow right apparently the MSRP for this one or well there is no MSRP for something like this yeah it's typically sold as integrated but apparently the price for these is typically around 35 000. oh okay yeah Seven Grand um yeah and there aren't even many available yeah sure so it's it's been uh it's been pretty intense there's so right what I was saying was there's actually a lot of money right now in being an engineer that can work on this stuff especially if you can be super efficient with it because if you can reduce the cost of gpus and the cost of continually processing on those gpus that you need to have um that's very beneficial for companies right now the open AI has been talking about how they don't actually believe um a lot of these models need to be trained on bigger data sets potentially cleaner potentially better at parsing them potentially better systems powering the the actual like chat modules stuff like that uh they've said that they're not actually working on gpt5 right now um and they think it is more beneficial and they will step forward faster if they work on like supporting tools for what they already have which honestly kind of makes sense to me because when you're talking about it like uh the previous uh topic where we mentioned that it will like get distracted or confused with complex goals well okay it might be more productive to work on keeping it on task by teaching it how to um you know break apart problems and compartmentalize parts of it like you do with like like humans do to be completely honest if you get this massive complicated task instead of trying to tackle the entire thing as one big unit you often break it down into smaller things so that you can easily more easily task tackle it and keep yourself focused well working on things like that might actually be more beneficial and get you to higher perceived performance and power faster right than just training a bigger model that's going to have the same problem um so yeah I also want to talk about LinkedIn verified yeah speaking of everything apps LinkedIn has gone from somewhere that you go just for the exclusive purpose of updating your resume when you're looking for a job to as far as I can tell the primary social network for I'm just trying to think probably most of the working adults that I know like and I and I don't mean I'm aware of like I'm not talking about people that I've added a couple times on Twitter or whatever else I'm talking about people that I know who mostly I I only work so I mean most of the people I know are are through work the amount of just sort of random crap posting on LinkedIn and just life updates people are are posting on it how active it is because I I don't I don't really engage with it so almost everyone that I'm connected with on LinkedIn is someone that I added over 10 years ago back when I was updating my resume because I was looking for a job right like that's how I used it but the way that it's used has evolved so much now and this is cool they're rolling out a verification program so it looks like by confirming users identities and their workplace it's going to start to work kind of like blind so in addition to being a social network that you just generally engage with your uh your Professional Circle through and then just apparently engage with just about anybody based on the messages I get on LinkedIn it's going to become more like a private version of your own internal work chat slash board slash Slack I mean it's owned by Microsoft so it might it could tie into teams even if you wanted but without without the filter of being worried that your you know your system administrator or your boss is going to Archive and read any message that you post until LinkedIn has a data breach until LinkedIn has a breach I mean you just said owned by Microsoft when's the last time Microsoft had a major user data bridge but nobody's like no one's comfortable hey but we're not we're not saying it's uh that's impossible but that is fair Microsoft has been pretty solid for quite a while now so they're going to send a security code through your work email so that they'll actually verify the domain of your workplace make sure that you have a functioning email that makes sense and even have people submit their government ID to a third-party verification service this is basically what Google tried to do with Google Plus I barely remember how Google Plus functioned to be completely honest Google Plus the concept was circles circles yeah okay for one thing and that that okay yeah word we're not going back to circles but also you know creating you know PODS of the well here's my Professional Network here's you know whatever else I I think that you could easily use it this way if you really wanted to but the the big one was when they integrated Google Plus with YouTube was they wanted to cut down on spam apparently Azura just had a breach oh awesome are you kidding me okay great timing um okay so your data won't be safe but hey at least you can send snarky messages about you know Jeff from accounting to Sue from you know uh Logistics or whatever else anyway that doesn't change my point the point is that YouTube was attempting to not that recently to moderate the conversations that were occurring on YouTube by having everyone verify their identity use real identities and Facebook tried to do something very similar when they cracked down on people having just sort of nonsense profile names and had people they restricted your ability to change your name all the time they had you actually submit uh it would it would call you on it if you submitted something that didn't sound like a real enough name it feels like we frogs have been kind of boy like remember Bob and his tank Army when Google integrated YouTube and Google Plus and wanted everybody to use real identities the kind of of rebellion that took place on the internet and now I'm even looking at this going this is this is kind of this is feels like a feature this is apparently part of an effort to crack down on fraud and impersonation on the site which would be which would legitimately make it a much better experience which isn't really different from what Google was trying to do would we have it is I think it is I was having I was actually having this conversation with some friends literally last night um not this exact one but about like your Frog's comment sure about how a lot of people have just kind of given up on privacy when that used to be like a huge conversation and genuinely a massive percentage of the population is like yeah I'll just have like Amazon Echoes all around my house and ring doorbells and whatever and I don't care um I think this is a little bit different because LinkedIn has never been anonymous yeah and Google or YouTube comments and all that kind of stuff they were Anonymous and then that was taken away linkedin's like whole purpose was like look this is who I am this is my name this is where I work this is everything I've ever done all that kind of stuff so I don't feel like it's really a change of tone for the platform so is it just a change in Attitude for the user that they enjoy and appreciate the more meaningful interactions they have on this platform I could definitely see that being and are gravitating towards using it even if they're not really thinking about why it works so much better it could be that in this like era of the internet we're now kind of separating like the same person might still want their anonymity on Twitter or YouTube comments or whatever else but then want to have more direct know the person you're talking to conversations on another platform somewhere else like potentially LinkedIn I could totally see that being a thing I would have to purge my LinkedIn because I just like I'm gonna go to Luke's LinkedIn at some point in time I just like added everyone oh were you job searching did it seem like we were going through a rough patch well I think this was when you were doing it too I think we were both in panic mode I think I've updated my picture now hold on a second you actually no you haven't that's really old is that from Taiwan I actually don't know Brandon clearly took that but I don't know where we were that's got to be in Taiwan you've you've updated it recently I updated it slightly because so many people were contacting me so you're LinkedIn for work you're all over that you're all over that LinkedIn no because they wanted jobs here yeah because you you know updated your updated your title so oh no no no no what shops have you got from the last time oh no that's ancient oh I see yeah yeah yeah yeah 500 plus connections yeah I ruined it good gravy it's like a lot more than that too that's just what they do a cool certification bro hey it's real I got it I mean yeah I guess so yep neat oh this was while you were working here did I pay for that you don't remember that no you didn't oh okay wow you should have uh had me that was well before we had that program oh that makes sense uh yeah okay no wait this oh yeah we didn't have any money right this is when you kept talking about gamifying the Forum yeah then you wouldn't shut up about it it's because you took this course yeah got it okay yeah so what's the point of listing your University of Victoria education when I didn't finish it very clear from the date range that you uh did not complete I didn't finish the other one either that doesn't really answer my question at all did you include yours I'm I'm checking because if I'm gonna shame you then I guess I'd better check my own shiz over here you got your Secondary School uh oh yeah that's pretty cringe I don't know if that's better to be honest founder uh committed to delivering YouTube videos social media project coordinator what a title yeah I made it up right obviously like I didn't have a title I don't think I ever got a formal promotion the entire time I worked at NCIX but I definitely got paid a lot more so I gave myself my own title everyone kind of picked their own title there so whatever yeah um retail sales representative student Works painting lifeguarding day camp counselor yeah I got my no I didn't put University on there because he's there because I didn't get a degree and I didn't get a diploma so I only counted I only count this as possible on there I have what hold on when did you update this hold on hold on I have what sorry go down further keep going publication as fast as possible yeah Tech tips NCAA Executives yeah well we started fast as possible for six days after lmg was officially started because remember the idea behind it was that it was going to be that soon yeah yeah fast as possible was so important because it was going to be the vehicle by which we were going to get way more views on our paid video production work for Brands we were going to create this channel oh yeah that was little explainers to get people subscribed and get momentum and then it was going to also be just like fully paid videos for you know Corsair or Samsung or whatever the case may be I would totally stupid plan based on how YouTube works now where it's a lot more important how good the quality of the video is and a lot less important how many subscribers you have but it seems like kind of a good idea at the time um yeah we started it pretty much right away and we it was also at a time when pretty much everyone on YouTube had a secondary channel of some sort you know whether it was a vlog Channel or behind the scenes Channel or like even a lot of them were just called like two cooking streams yeah yeah just just two yeah so I wanted I wanted some kind of second identity whether it was if the main Channel went down or stopped growing or something I discovered very recently this is super off topic but that there's a bunch of channels that just mirror themselves they'll have another channel of a same similar or even completely different name that has all of the same content and really some people that do that have gotten mad because YouTube has like gotten rid of their Channel their additional Channel because of impersonation but they're like no wait that's me I was like I had no idea this was a thing that people did interesting apparently they do it not actually for like algorithmic gains they don't promote the other channels okay that's what I would have said if the first channel just gets they have the second one still so if they get like content strikes on one of them they can survive and just remove the chain remove the videos that they got the content strikes from and then just keep going at least that's what the like one person I saw talking about it I'm sorry I don't believe that that might not be real I don't know which I just saw one person commenting but that's how that's what they do that's interesting um but yeah okay do we need to move on explain merch messages is our current thing yeah okay right so we're trying to make the show a little bit more structured we had a five hour win show last week which was a a lot and B not even remotely feasible today given how late we ended up starting so Dan is trying to kind of keep us in line here if you guys are not familiar yet merch messages are the way to interact with the show send little messages that pop up in the bottom to your friends or your mom assuming your mom watches the land show so you can send a merge message you're the only person whose mom I know watches the WAN show um it also allows you to uh send us more topic suggestions just you know generally show some love it's a better way to interact with the show because unlike a twitch bit or a super chat or whatever else the case may be a merch message might not get a response we do our best but even if it doesn't you will get your order in the mail in however long it takes to get to America or Timbuktu or Australia or wherever it happens to be that you live or if you're buying a gift for someone else so why don't we do a couple of merch messages to kind of oh right the way it works is you go on ltdstore.com and in the checkout you'll see a little box whenever we're live there's a box where you can fill in your merch message and it'll go into a queue to be sorted by producer Dan Dan do you want to hit us with a couple merch messages and then we'll move on to our next topic I do I've got a couple good ones here for you first up is from Adrian if lmg didn't exist and you could choose to do whatever you wanted where would you work and in what position while the position would definitely be on all fours okay I'm going to answer this two different ways I'm going to answer without the if you could choose to do whatever you wanted um if lmg didn't exist probably it would have collapsed around the first three to six months and I had a pretty solid just never started yeah I had a pretty solid job offer at Western Digital I remember that and like it was like it looked pretty good compared to the constant existential crisis that was Linus Media Group at that time I it I was thinking about it seriously enough like I I never I always told them no right but I was thinking about it enough it was troubling me enough that I did talk to Luke and Ed about it I was like Hey so this is like a thing um it was fun because I lived with him at the time and I had abandoned both Ed and I had completely abandoned our educational prospects which we were both doing very well with in order to start this company and then after we did that he was talking to us and I was hearing him and Avon update his LinkedIn profile so he could get a different job and abandon this project that was that was a very cool era when did I update my LinkedIn profile I was already living with you and we were working on this are you sure you're updating your LinkedIn because of the WD thing foreign see I remember writing all of this stuff on my LinkedIn profile in my office when I was still at mcix because I gave them like six months now you might have also done that oh okay I don't know yeah I think yeah I'm not saying it was exclusively at that time okay I I can tell you I didn't update much I know because I updated my LinkedIn before I left because I wanted to be able to check a whole bunch of numbers while I still had access to the internal system like how much did I grow the revenue on this line from when to when so I did I did the vast majority of that it was communicated as a like if this does burn this is my plan but the plan is for it to not burn and I did talk to you and that was I mean I was open I would rather know so like I'm not I'm not I'm not mad about it it was just a spicy moment that's all yeah hey hey we made it we made it yeah um and like it wasn't like it it wasn't like I wasn't considering what I would do if it burnt as well like I I don't know I don't know if Ed was I'm not sure I think he just had no plan kind of sucks yeah maybe it's pointless I don't know just not do that uh he probably would have been fine so I had tried to apply to Amazon so that was clearly something that I wanted to do I didn't get the job at Amazon so I went full bore into getting Linus Media Group started and then shortly until in this Media Group I got the offer from WD that was probably the best offer that I got and might have catapulted me into some kind of marketing position somewhere else would I have ended up um I I would have if I would got had gotten desperate enough uh Paul and Kyle I think had already split from Newegg at this point I'm not 100 sure but just like running and joining the video team there I don't think they had I think they were still there but if I had applied I'm sure I could have you know become a host there that was an option that I was turning over in my mind there was some plan oh man I don't know if I'm hallucinating this or not I think there was something uh I think there was some plan at some point that we had talked about where if it didn't work you and I were both going to go somewhere I don't remember I told you that one of the conditions that I had given to WD in the very short conversations was that I wanted to be able to bring my team with me because they wanted me to do some video stuff there in some capacity yeah so that maybe that was it I don't it's been a long it's actually genuinely been a very long it's been 10 years yeah yeah it's hard to remember the exact details of the conversations yeah so so if I recall correctly they weren't that they weren't that enthused on that yeah they weren't that into that well I don't I don't think because you guys weren't good I think just because they didn't really know you guys and that's a that's a sudden change to the ask yeah hey if you hire me you have to hire three people that's like well by that time Brandon was with us too so four yeah yeah that's a lot now I'm gonna answer as though I could do anything I want um I don't know being like a professional footballer looks pretty good I mean do you mean soccer yeah yeah I mean soccer like uh yeah yeah like if I could just be like Cristiano Ronaldo not badminton uh they don't make any money okay yeah like uh you know it's it seemed like that seems pretty good or like um oh man can I just be the son of like someone who has a job is that it appears to be a thing yeah yeah ah no that's that doesn't really count but that's all the line no that's that's a lie because I think you and I both know that I want to do something I wouldn't be happy I was having this conversation with Jake actually like two days ago because he sent me a picture of his trunk full of new speakers when we just upgraded his speakers as part of his extreme Tech upgrade okay and then a week or two weeks later he's sending me pictures of his Home Depot run where he got this super cool new acoustic material and some rock wool and then the week after that he's sending me pictures of like it's been on a mega sound kick for a while him building panels and you know putting uh putting fabric over them and whatever and I'm like brother you know why you drive me crazy because you are just like me that is the worst thing about you you are just like me how long have you actually spent listening to music and I have his response this is fantastic uh hold on where is it like the number of hours he has spent optimizing his his setup the the delves Dell switches oh man I text Jake a lot oh oh the problem is that I'm uh I'm on teams okay hold on uh oh this is taking far too long I'm so sorry I thought this was going to be the kind of thing that I just had ready at a moment's noticed anyway whatever the point is it was like four minutes because he spent all his time setting everything many hours and it was like dang this sounds awesome so it's like how you would spend like weeks building the the perfect thing with a computer and then don't play the games yeah yeah or how I would spend hours setting up a headphone Listening Room with all different amps and dacs and headphones which we did here and then not use it once or like how I would set up um a gaming Lounge so that I can hang out on Lounge nights only to show up a grand total of probably three times I think I've managed to make it to Lounge night and it and and I I even have made it like part of Chase's duties our event coordinator part of his duties to ensure that those happen every two weeks so they're happening I'm paying for it and I almost never actually get to go or okay since we're at it how I would set up a home theater room so that I mean I guess my kids use it but I think I've actually only watched about four movies since we moved in in the theater room because I just I can't help it I would rather I would rather build the Lego kit then actually play with my Lego dragon when I'm done it's just the way that I am so if I had to if I had to get into an industry maybe I would get into like um commercial real estate development something like that if the clients weren't horrible I think it could actually be pretty enjoyable because you're just constantly learning about what this person's work what this company this organization's workflow is I feel like uniform both like that and and and and and finding Solutions and optimizing um I think another thing that would be that would be pretty fun for me is anything to do with anything like really Hands-On um ah no nope that's what I'm going with okay your answer I had a ton of different paths that I was pursuing like actually an insane amount of different things that I was actually working on um the most direct path that I was on the thing that I had like an offer for and whatnot was like software development and database management based what I've wanted to do that forever probably not but it seemed like the most direct path out of school and you would have just automated the vast majority of it and like I don't know played video games but I think you would have gotten bored I would have gotten bored exactly yeah 100 yeah um yeah so unless you did it at a really small company where everything was constantly on fire so what I think I actually probably would have ended up doing this is still not like get to pick anything in the world is your career yeah but uh like Disaster Recovery okay I genuinely think I would really enjoy that probably like Nation scale um so like natural disaster recovery oh okay interesting so like figuring out how comms and Logistics are gonna work and whatever okay and then like coordinating responses and doing all that kind of stuff I genuinely think I would really like that um if I could pick anything uh astronaut and I actually do mean that seriously I just don't think I would actually be able to like make the cut right now oh yeah yeah no you got it because you have to be like Genius Like An Athlete yeah and whatever and like I have bad eyes and dyslexia and like other things where like yeah and you're like almost too old at this point yeah probably like yeah get wrecked I mean I thought about it when I was younger and then I thought about the cuts that you have to go along and all this type of stuff and where you end up if you don't make the cuts and I was like yeah probably not um I think I'm not gonna go in that direction right so it's one of those it's one of those career paths like Star Quarterback yeah if you make it cool great and if you don't it's like uh and it's it's not 100 that way because you you usually end up with very extreme education experience and stuff and the jobs that you can get if you don't make it are are very good often respectable yes but not what I would necessarily want to do I get it so it's not it's not quite the it sort of as in like it ends you up somewhere that you don't want to be but not as much because a lot of the potential jobs are like very serious Big Time career type things but they're still not necessarily things that I would want to do hey this again Dan yeah oh I think it's about time to move on to some more topics unless you really do want another one yeah you have to give us one more sorry all right how to make the rules we're work you you do we're working through it together okay next up is from Gary uh discuss this is more of a demand than a question I assume uh a pair of 17 year old students used a flipper zero finding flaws in their schools RFID and network students are now facing legal trouble that's what do you tell parents students ah so this is a tough one because while they might have been right we're missing some information find vulnerabilities yeah we don't have the whole story here so I'm gonna have to kind of come at it a few different ways while they might have been right to find and disclose vulnerabilities to actually enact them to to to exploit them in any way could very well be illegal um it's kind of like how it's kind of like how it would be fine to knock on someone's door and tell them hey um that lock on your door is super insecure and you should replace it have a great one see you later that's fine but if you sit there attempting to pick but if you sit there and pick it and walk into their house and you're like hey um well-meaning neighbor yeah everything's chill so I'll I'll be on my way in a sec but your door is super insecure I was able to pick that in like 10 seconds uh see you later that's still breaking and entering um yeah so so there's some stuff about this that we don't know if they if they detected vulnerabilities using flipper zero didn't do anything with them and then reported it to the school and the school is trying to go after them with legal trouble I hope that the internet rains down on that school with everything they've got if they like did abuse things I still think they should have a light hand with them they're students um we don't know how old these students are that's fair there are students who are like 18 and a pair of 17 year old students we actually do know how old they're yeah they're they're old enough I mean come on it depends what they do in my opinion yeah sure if they like mess around and like change the text on the school sign yeah that's pretty minor yeah that's just pranks give them a slap on the wrist whatever if they tried to like change their grades or something I'm I'm not saying this is even like possible with that system I'm just saying like that level of thing then that could be a problem you know no don't say that don't say what what did I say well I don't know whatever moving on all right let's move on to our next topic here do you want to talk about the Mario movie uh yeah sure now you haven't seen it no right no have you read reviews uh uh or looked at watched reviews I don't know how do people review these days sort of okay it's doing better than I thought it was going to do what are your expectations are you are you gonna watch it because you like never go to the movies I very rarely go to the movies when's the last time you went to a movie I literally don't know was it when we went to see the second Kingsman I think so yeah because that was like there's the third one is like out you know did we go see that one no we would watch that one at my place oh yeah very disappointing because I remember it yeah it was pretty bad yeah um are you gonna go I don't know I am planning on going to the movies soon I want to go see John Wick 4 with Brandon okay all right cool cool I like I want to see cinematic movies with Brandon because then he gets the geek out about them afterwards and it's like that's that's fun um but I don't know I would probably wait for it to come to some service but I can definitely watch because I definitely subscribe to it it's surprisingly fine okay my expectations based on the critical reception were pretty low oh yeah I assumed it was garbage and then apparently people seem to like it a decent amount yeah right now on Rotten Tomatoes let me jump to my screen not that one oh boy um the the Tomato Meter so the the reviewers gave it a 58 but audience 96. yeah people like it those are both completely wrong it is it is not a 96 piece of Storytelling um well okay no it's a visual Fiesta that's not how Rotten Tomatoes works because Rotten Tomatoes is yes or no and if you vote Yes it's like okay yeah but but in general what we've what what would typically be a 96 would have to have everything it would have to be great fun for the whole family you know all the multiple layers of whatever you know something like an up is is oh yeah masterful animated film definitely um it's not up it's right it's what is UPS ratings oh it's probably close to 100 percent I mean I kind of hope so 98 yeah it's not two percent yeah it's not two percent worse than up it's not it's not the audience score for up is 90. Tomato Meter is 98. people have bad days yeah so anyway um the Super Mario Brothers movie though what it is is good clean fun it's Nintendo I mean that's probably good it's good clean fun it's um you know everything that I was worried would be kind of garbage about it um like if they if they over did the the references and and they they they did it's of course there's a lot of it's from one reference to one reference to to another reference but you know Nintendo has what what are we what are we coming up on like you know 40 Years of like modern era video gaming yeah playing cards whether whether it's whether it's music or characters or environments or or game or mechanics or whatever else it is very plumbers uh um Nintendo Nintendo has so much to draw on that they can do that without it feeling stale and I actually I I enjoyed it it's not the kind of thing that I would watch again I I don't I don't need to I don't need that um I definitely you know I prefer Despicable Me if I'm gonna you know pick an illumination film that I that I like better okay but it was fine good enough yeah it was totally good enough the kids loved it do you feel like the voice acting detracted from it you know what controversial take here we go I thought Chris Pratt was fine I thought Anya Taylor Joy was terrible she took me out of the movie basically every time Princess Peach opened her mouth and it didn't take you out for Chris Pratt no it's fine interesting yeah the thing that's crazy to me is that the voice actor for Mario is like alive he's in the movie oh what the heck yeah yeah it's fine it's like actually like I said everything that I thought was terrible and I'm not really spilling anything he's revealed in like the first couple minutes uh everything that I thought was gonna be bad was fine I want to ask like how they explain that away and stuff but it's going to be too spoilers no no it's it's just it's fine okay and it's fine yeah um the second one is going to be dog I'm calling it you feel like they spent all their like yeah yeah yep all the good references are spent well any character development that they can do for Mario is kind there's there's plenty more to explore they have set up a Cinematic Universe worth of things to explore yeah yeah which means someone is on a Time is on a time crunch creating the next cookie cutter installment of this that is meant to come out on X schedule come hell or high water and don't forget about the the TV show tie-ins and all the the video game tie-ins that you're gonna have to do that you're gonna have to play in order to know what's happening when Peach gets captured by Bowser and goes there and she gets rescued and there's a gonna be a little wink to the audience and Super Mario Brothers movie 4 and Toad's Standalone Adventure movie when he has Toad's Adventure 2 or whatever it's going to be awful I'm calling it now it's gonna get super self-referential to itself rather than to the rich video game history or I could be totally wrong and Nintendo could go an utterly different Direction with it spoilers no there's no spoilers I'm just I'm just I'm just talking about it spoilers for the movie that isn't out yet yeah exactly exactly guys but yeah yeah Smash Bros Multiverse is 100 going to be a thing and it's going to be atrocious because the other thing too is they went with all their most recognizable characters right out of the gate so what it's going to be like Icarus and uh Game and Watch like right do you think they could do the adventures of someone else I mean they could they could just wouldn't perform as well I think if they wanted it to be good they would probably go separate universes um do you think they could do stuff like like someone in float plane chat mentioned Luigi going Ghostbusters do you think they could do like uh like a murder mystery style thing with like the Luigi haunted house stuff there's so much room for them to do something creative and amazing you know I'd I'd love to see a Zelda movie oh I'd love to see it done really well it has to be done really well totally different like I'm still burnt off the Warcraft movie like I still like have a huge lack of trust because like I almost want like like Castaway kind of Vibes where where it really focuses on on link and his lonely wandering uh or or something or something do something totally different the problem is that this is now the most successful animated film of all time in terms of like its first week take yeah and you know how Bean Counters work whether they're Nintendo Bean counters number two or Disney Bean counters that that more of that yeah um yeah yeah that's disappointing yeah I like breath of the Wild uh like Legend of Zelda spin-off movie could actually be super sick like a like a hardcore survival film but it's like link trying to do live action would be cool yeah it could be good uh you want it to be animated my thing is my thing is I don't think it should be cute they took the Warcraft movie yeah which has like like people would watch this was actually a thing people uploaded just all of the cinematics for Warcraft 3 which don't even go into each other properly and just uploaded all of them in one video file onto YouTube still a better movie than Twilight and people would just watch the whole thing all the way through it had tons of views back in the day yeah because the cinematics that blizzard made for so long even now when they make full-fledged ones because they not the in-game ones when they make full-fledged ones are like just absolutely legendary cinematics and then they're like Warcraft movie live action like what what are you doing and so I oh man so I I I I question that a little bit sure I actually think it would be like more legit I'd I Hazard saying this I think it would be more legit to do that with Legend of Zelda than it is with uh Warcraft or really any blizzard title to be completely honest but I still just I Hazard that there's all these like Disney like oh we're gonna live action Lion King that's stupid don't do that well yeah it's not even live action that's just an animated movie Dumb just like in a realistic yeah style oh let's take all the emotion out of it cool uh so I I'm speaking out of ignorance I haven't watched it because I don't care yeah yeah yeah I just uh I've read the comments I'm just I'm just like concerned that's all about this link okay you guys are memeing now that's not funny it's like super immersive about it there's like Shia LaBeouf gets arrested for like smashing pots at Like Home Depot or something laughs oh my God I mean it's not Ezra Miller I don't know who that is oh that's the that's the actor that is just plays The Flash and is as far as we can tell just a complete weirdo oh okay yeah I don't know man speaking of method actors though I I would love oh man this is embarrassing uh Viggo Mortensen I'd love him as like Ganondorf or something just like play a villain for a change that'd be cool yeah that's Aragorn I know I knew that he doesn't know actors yeah but I knew that one because I'm like a Lord of the Rings nerd yeah um yeah all right why don't we jump into Microsoft could be working on a Windows handheld mode for steam Deco likes this is super exciting uh not because I want the steam deck to fail or because I want Steam OS to see any less development not because I think that Windows is an alternative to Steam OS or that I that I want it to become this easier path now blah blah blah none of those things but because competition is good valve's competition in the space lit a fire under Microsoft and we shouldn't let valve run unopposed either I mean look how little Innovation there was in Steam until EA and Ubisoft basically said look we're going to take our ball and we're gonna go home well valve innovated would they have done it anyway I don't know maybe maybe not though so this is exciting prolific Microsoft leaker walking cat shared two videos on Twitter that were taken from a pitch for an internal Microsoft hackathon Project showcasing a Windows handheld mode the pitch acknowledges that the handheld PC market is growing thanks to a device called the steam deck this is a direct quote and shows prototype features that would make Windows easier to use on such devices such as optimizing the onboarding experience which right now is very cludgy cross-platform a cross-platform game launcher built right into windows are we going back to the games folder from Vista because I'm actually down I liked it it was kind of awesome it was good I complained very recently on a Wan show about how it's it's kind of annoying right now about how everything is trying to be your games launcher and like I would actually just prefer one of them and if Microsoft had stuck with it like one of the things that it did was it pushed game developers to move their save games to one place so instead of having it sometimes being an app data roaming and sometimes being in program files and the the game folder and sometimes being in my games and sometimes just just being in my documents like men game developers have never been able to decide where your saves go so Microsoft one of the good things they did with Vista and with the games folder was they Consolidated it all went in one place so when I had to reformat or whatever else because Cloud saves weren't as much of a thing it was one folder that I dragged and it was good and it was good to go right um now you got to deal with like is it in app data or is it saved somewhere else oh man Cloud saves are both a blessing and a curse I set my kids up to play it takes two um in the car at one point and they were like hey what happened to our game I was like I don't know oh yeah it turns out it takes two just doesn't Cloud save on Steam it's like just not supported and I saw this I saw this really awful uh video on I don't know if it was Tick Tock or something anyway someone was someone was talking about how their Animal Crossing uh saved they had like 500 hours in Animal Crossing and their switch got corrupted during an update and it's gone even though they do pay Nintendo for their stupid hostage taking Cloud save feature Nintendo was just like oh yeah you have to manually enable Animal Crossing saves because they're big this is a paid service Nintendo it's paid that's actually so brutal I I had seen like people were upset about Animal Crossing safes but I didn't know why that's so brutal this is something it's actually like almost unbelievable levels of of brutal I'm just hating your customers yeah like what the oh man oh you mentioned when talking about the Mario movie you're like yup it's good clean fun like Nintendo it sucks that Nintendo has to come with this incredibly ugly downside all the time yep it's like what it wouldn't be that hard to just be like the company that's just to be a Super Mario are the games expensive do they never go on discount yeah sure but like that is good you can back up your save to an SD card for no charge because the SD card slot is right there on the console and why wouldn't we let you do that that kind of stuff right like it seems like it would make sense for the brand but they just they just can't they just have to be buttholes and it's like man why I don't know I I do have to bring back I don't know if you mentioned this sorry I've been I've been working on something um but the this was a hackathon project right so like I wouldn't take this as a like they're working on it but there's other cool ideas but like driver handling uh touch keyboard controller navigation of keyboard and common Windows elements like task view uh controller support outside of steam and more like Luke says this is no guarantee but the Microsoft employees who made the presentation seem passionate about it saying that windows and Xbox app users deserve this and need this they're so right how have Windows and Xbox not merged more yeah they're even doing a lot of the things right but not a hundred percent of the way and these hackathons are often positioned to be able to find projects like this so it is very possible that this does get done I just don't want people being like oh this is coming cool because it's not necessarily coming um there's no word on whether they've started any kind of development on the project but as PC World points out they'd be kind of dumb not to with the proliferation of these devices and with The Gap that valve's inertia seems to have left in the market the Rog Ally is outstanding yeah the amount of time that I've spent with it now is much more than the last time I talked about it and like I was just um it's replaced this theme deck for you Yvonne and I were having one of our one of our home meetings because she can never talk to me at work because no one will let her uh so she's it's very hard to get a meeting with you yeah so she it's actually like a battle every time so anyway she had a whole bunch of stuff in her inbox that was tagged discussed with Linus and I was just chilling on the floor in the computer room playing Vampire survivors on the Rog Ally with it being completely dead silent in the power saving mode because it's not a super demanding game and I mean it's obviously a pretty like brain turned off kind of game just like essentially having a meeting yeah it runs hot so smooth 120 hertz it's way more powerful than the steam way way more powerful and it's not going to be the only one is it cool to have a Computing device where you had a very significant performance jump that was noticeable yeah because I feel like it hasn't super been a thing for a while but I I recognized only just now but I've had this feeling the whole time you've been talking about it that there's like a different level of excitement because this like super perceivable jump in performance is not so much of a thing no lately no it's not it's twice as fast yeah and that's like that's crazy and it is still a thing it is still a thing um and like if if an SSD was twice as fast right now it wouldn't matter most users are not going to notice but okay so that's exactly the thing there are still big upgrades the 4090 is an enormous upgrade over the 3090. for 1600 US Dollars yeah starting at starting at for a single component of your computer but here we're talking about I hope okay I hope we're talking about a device that is under or around a grand yes yes it's a complete experience it's not an add-in board that you put in another thing yeah that also costs a lot of money right and also like needs its own level of heightened support because you need like a crazy power supply and exactly solid Cooling and all this other kind of stuff exactly no I'm I'm I'm I'm jazzed and don't imagine for a second that if Asus is successful with the Rog Ally that you're not going to see other other PC manufacturers chime in because this is something I was trying to figure out it's like who the heck is Aya Neo who is One X player who is you know uh GPD like who who are these guys um and I I know who they are like I you know have communicated with them I understand who they are especially very directly but my point was that they are not Asus they're not major players they are not MSI gigabyte and if these guys can get to Market if the minimum order quantities and the relationship building with the amds or the intels of the world is so relatively easy absolutely nothing would prevent a manufacturer with the expertise of an Asus MSI gigabyte Acer uh dell whoever nothing would prevent them from coming out with one okay do you think this is going to be let's go it's a laptop but it doesn't sure do you think it's gonna be bad for the gpd's in EOS Etc of the world yeah that sucks hold on they still have an opportunity to maintain their niche GPD is the only one who really takes the keyboard seriously okay so there's there's still room for them um eye and Neo they were doing some really cool things with Aya space so their their skin slash launcher uh some really cool ideas uh their overlay really cool ideas there for being able to uh kind of like the steam deck right adjust your brightness and your volume and your power profile and whatever else while you're in game uh really cool ideas there I feel like compared to I don't know six eight months ago it's just kind of more bloated and buggy and hasn't really added anything useful for me and so if they can really do a great job of that and make that supplementary to anything that Microsoft builds into Windows I think it could be really good like I uh at their I anneal at their best has had way better Auto switching of uh joy to Mouse and then switching into controller mode as you launch games and then go back to the Windows desktop but then it got really bad around the time Windows 11 launched which I would have to assume is something to do with Microsoft thank you very much but I don't know that for sure whereas Asus right now it's pretty rough I basically just use the touchscreen right like it sucks like they have a toggle for it but as far as I can tell it doesn't work and there's there's room for these come there's absolutely room for these companies to have Acquisitions happen you you even mentioned like there's all these major players in the space that could do it but there's like software advantages or whatever that these small companies have that's exactly why those things happen yeah 100 but then if I'm I I don't think it would though like I'm thinking everything I know about MSI and their product development oh I don't think MSI would do it they'd just be like no we'll do it ourselves and it doesn't matter if it's crappy but like Alienware okay would build it themselves and it would be less crappy but then MSI yeah yeah dang what is it about Hardware companies and just being utterly unable to do software it's actually like I don't find that there's a ton of companies that can do both it's actually kind of difficult to cross over yeah they're like why is Apple you know the first to cross a trillion dollar evaluation yeah because they can do both it's hard yeah Intel software is like they're consumer facing software is kind of janky talk about the The Arc stuff yeah yeah like there's definitely software things that I'm pretty sure Intel does pretty well like my understanding is a lot of their like compiler stuff is very robust a lot of their like hardcore behind the scenes type of stuff is pretty solid a lot of their user-facing stuff the uis look like they're from the early 2000s um whatever he was even that's when they work art control or whatever was a hot pile of garbage yeah um I don't know they feel extremely not modern on the user side or completely broken in regards to when you look at like a software company like Facebook trying to do hard work it's like oh portal yeah like it's it's actually pretty hard to cross I mean they technically do Hardware now but they acquired Oculus and what if they realistically launched as meta like developed and launched Okay so I mean yeah they've done headsets they still yeah but they still had a lot of the Oculus team when they developed you know Rift s or when they developed quest one oh I see um so the pro is like the only yeah yeah and it's a flop as far as I can tell that doesn't it's not a bad device but it's not commercially viable but someone's saying their driver support is normally amazing yeah like the the behind the scenes stuff from Intel is is traditionally quite good yeah oh I will 100 give them that it's more the the user-facing stuff anyways new topic just like our sponsors face our users massive shout out to jump Cloud for sponsoring this episode okay don't worry there's no weird fries challenge this week says Dennis Jump cloud is an open directory platform that can centralize your technology stack across identity access and device management you can use gemcloud to handle identities and access with maximum ease and maximum security uh with support for Mac windows and Linux no matter the platform jumpcloud has your back in the device management tab you can provide user access apply policy configurations or run commands so it allows you to decrease it expenses and ongoing costs and scale your organization with confidence without massive Tech overhead and infrastructure people try jumpcloud today using the link in the description below the show is also brought to you by Goliath oh what the crap am I looking at here um are you always breaking things without no oh I see without knowing don't worry because Goliath is here to troubleshoot your problems Goliath is a best-in-class end user experience monitoring and troubleshooting software that helps find the root cause of any I.T issue in as little time as possible they claim three clicks or less for the most complex Citrix or VMware Horizon user issues um oh no any yeah okay now that's what they say the technology comes with embedded intelligence and automation so you can be set up and operating in minutes and all the policies are designed by experts and tell you what to monitor for and how to interpret the data so if you have Citrix or VMware Horizon and are having performance issues Goliath can help and if you're in healthcare Goliath comes with industry-only modules for Cerner epic and meditech sign up for a free trial and save 20 using the link in the description finally the show is brought to you by see Sonic see Sonic's Prime TX 1000 power supply delivers the power that you need it features an 80 plus titanium efficiency rating that means less power gets wasted during power conversion it's fully modular and features hybrid fan control to keep overall fan noise under control it also uses a fluid Dynamic bearing fan which contributes to quietness and also to longevity it comes with a 12 year warranty so if you're looking for to build a new system and looking for a power supply you can rely on trust me you can trust see Sonic I mean yeah these guys have been added as long as I have they were founded the same year I was born oh well yeah learn more about them at csonic.com or through the link down below it was always really confusing to me see Sonic the fact that they had no retail presence like I'm talking 15 years ago or whatever when it was obvious that everyone who made a decent power supply was using either them or a handful of other oems and I'm kind of going let me buy direct man is it really that hard to to spray a coat of black paint on your boring gray power supply put a little bit of sleeving on the cable and make a box you know because as far as I can tell that's what I'm remaining yeah that's what everyone else is doing apparently see Sonic had the same idea okay this will do that really doesn't seem that hard why are we letting Corsair have all the time which I'm happy about because something that I legitimately used to do was look into who made the power supply I was buying to figure out what the like basically cheapest actually see Sonic option was at the time yeah and then just buy that so now it's just more simple yeah like when XFX broke into the power supply Market their whole claim to fame was uh unlike Corsair who has moved on and is using other oems now all of ours are seasoned yeah so okay actually a selling point for a bunch of people I would totally do an LTT power supply just made by sea Sonic I'd be super I'd be super into that and I wouldn't even hide it I'd be like yeah it costs more so that we get our cut it's free Sonic it's now like partially orange or something yeah exactly that matches everyone's system it's just that the RGB would be configured out of the box or by default yeah here we go yeah there that's what makes it LTT boom done easy but then at that point why don't we just sell seasonic power supplies on lttstore.com hey there's a plan yeah I'd be down the good three merch messages is apparently the current task all right hit us with some merch messages but Dan all right this one is a little bit Anonymous obviously and is probably directed towards Luke uh is AI generated adult content a more ethical solution than current adult industry and only fans wow wow what a quagmire wow all right well I'm glad you said this was um pun intended by the way I'm glad you said this was directed at Luke she's just gonna Dodge that bullet um oh wow let's let the internet freak out at you first I mean let me reread this more ethical solution than current adult industry only fans there is a ton to unpack here I think it would be less ethical in a bunch of ways potentially more ethical in other ways I think it's super convoluted um there are definitely only fans things wow this entirely depends on how you define your ethics there I have seen a lot of people comment about how only fans has enabled certain creators to be much more safe in what they do to have more ownership over their own stuff they don't have to work through other companies anymore they don't have to necessarily work with other people at all anymore they can just operate on their own regard so I've heard good things about that does AI solve that no so I don't know um also there's a topic we're going to be talking about later more specifically uh in the realm of music but AI has been AI models whatever um has been used to like deep fake people that had gave no consent and were clearly not okay with it at all so that's clearly ethically bad I don't care where your ethics lie that's just clearly not okay um and these AI models are trained off of image data sets that include real people are they capable of generating stuff completely originally um well they're gonna base it off of things that they learned from people but it could look genuinely literally nothing like anyone else that currently exists so that's cool I guess my understanding not that I speak from personal experience but my understanding is that the pornography industry is extremely predisposed towards exploitive practices yeah which I've heard a lot of very bad things which kind of checks out but I've also heard that there's good things but you might be against the entire thing so I don't know I mean at the end of the day there's a fine line between um you know understanding that people have agency and can make their own decisions yes while also protecting people who would make extremely um self-harmful decisions um that would allow them to be exploited by their do Wells also bad people saying that certain person involved with something has their own agency and is free when that person isn't it's totally a thing that happens that's totally bad yep um this is a Minefield let's move on next question really because I was going to throw another curveball at you I was going to say even if the AI generated um even if the AI generated content sure only accidentally looked like someone and wasn't intentionally trained on an individual that's still a problem how do you how could you even prevent that but then there's also people that look like other people yeah that label their stuff as that other person right and that's totally a thing yep okay this is a Minefield all right see you later let's move on okay up next uh Hey dll as calibration Tech uh has a calibration Tech I often see settings hidden behind proprietary information do you feel this is okay or should it fall under right to repair and will the labs equipment be calibrated well okay for starters the labs equipment must be calibrated because otherwise how could we trust any of the results that come out of it for another equipment calibration is a tough one because on the one hand yes everything is right to repair I saw another merge message about for example um uh even just like hidden menus and TVs and stuff like that that isn't to do with calibration but it's just to access settings that are not considered safe for example my LG TV that I was using as a monitor there was a special service remote you could get to access a special menu that would allow you to turn off some of the OLED saver technology so that it would function better as a monitor um obviously I think I should be allowed to use my Hardware however I want to use it but on the other hand well who is who is responsible then who is verifying the Integrity of this calibration unless there's some kind of validation or certification process is it calibrated I could see a compromise being that everyone should have access to the menu wait are you talking about Labs equipment yeah okay okay yeah I'm not talking about the TV anymore no no I could see a compromise being that they allow you to have access to all the same menus and and and IO uh i o ports or whatever else it is um I think that they should provide the equipment and the training if you want to do it yourself but I think that it could make sense for them to have a program where they're the ones who do it and they have their own sort of certification that they will apply to it yeah there could be a log that you can't modify or delete that notes changes made to certain calibration settings and whether that change was made by like an improved agent or not because yeah like you should absolutely be able to change it yourself but that doesn't mean it's like verified calibration by whatever Authority um but that might be fine you might not care about that you should still be able to do it in my opinion do you want another one yep all right here's our third um this one is another anonymous hey uh oh no somebody reordered them I think many people are shocked by LTT store prices because they're unfamiliar with the higher end of the markets you compete in have you ever been shocked uh by prices in unfamiliar markets before oh sure yep I mean I made a whole video about what the heck is going on with hot Cinema Camera prices and the craziest part is red was a disrupter yeah get your mind around that red came in and undercut the cinema Market the cinema camera Market they they democratized the the creation of of of high resolution like filmic resolution Digital Cinema we talked earlier on this show about an MSRP 35 000 graphics card right yeah that was probably shocking for a bunch of people watching yeah I mean it's um I remember talking about this on the land show at some point I think I talked about this on the land show I remember being called very out of touch for saying something along the lines of uh consumer computer hardware is not expensive oh yeah because from a business standpoint it's not a GPU in the when when you you gotta everything is relative right a GPU okay costs nothing to an organization Like Us in the grand scheme of things think about how many people work your employee salary we're up to about benefits for for someone to be in the building for a pay period okay it's like GPU right and then okay well that times uh 26 times a year like it still matters yeah like every head count we add is like equipping a quarter of our staff with an RTX 40 90. think about that yeah yeah yeah right so consumer electronics what I meant was for what they are it's amazing how little they cost when we look at what we got for a thousand dollars back in 1995 the fact that you can the fact that you can buy a 40 70 TI for a thousand dollars it's mind-blowing the technological advancements right the I think the the like most easy to visualized version of that was when you talk about storage people do this all the time so this is not original at all but you look at like old hard drives like this is how many hard drives it would have taken in 1998 to amass a terabyte worth of data and there's like a one terabyte micro SD card there you go it's like whoa it's wild yeah people are talking about this now it's like uh DS 2600 and float plane chat says I just bought a Cisco router for 1.2 million for my company is that outrageous not if your company is going to generate six million dollars of Revenue with it because that's the thing it's a completely different calculus it's not how much enjoyment will I get from this router or from this add-in card it's how much revenue will this generate for the company if I spend this thousand dollars that I am that I'm blessed enough to have to reinvest will I get eleven hundred dollars or fifteen hundred dollars or three thousand dollars assuming that I make very efficient use of it so I forget how we started this question uh what was the question oh yeah the pricing of so have we ever yeah yeah so in when it comes to to to business expenses I don't think a quarter goes by where I'm not blown away by the cost of something because once you reach a certain scale things that cost a thousand dollars become a rounding error like I remember we got a bill for some kind of stock photo service that we were using but we didn't have the right tier of subscription for like how much of it we were using and we didn't realize and they sent us like a thirty thousand dollar bill and I was like uh uh what this happens with uh web service stuff like all the time oh yeah for sure yeah yeah yeah so yeah it happens all the time and I mean my response to people saying that LTT store stuff is really expensive is um okay well uh you you go make it to that level of quality at that price our t-shirts are still 20 bucks go find now go find me another content creator that does printed quality shirts no Fruit of the Loom no Gildan no crap shirts printed quality shirts with good printing 20 bucks screen printed not direct to garment it costs money sorry not sorry like we we don't we don't take ridiculous margin on stuff um that's just the way it is we're doing one more are we doing topics let's do one more we're ahead of time yeah just a little bit I uh I got my times wrong all right next Up's from Jacob Linus who is a source of personal or professional inspiration for you not a role model just someone with certain traits you admire and try to emulate strange as it may seem you're on my list well I'm very flattered thank you um bad choice just kidding hmm no you're gonna do the like rubbing thing no I refuse oh man my thing um is that I don't have a lot of time I follow very few things um so I'm I'm at risk right now of saying a name only to find out this is a huge problem yeah I was at a Michael Buble concert a little while back yeah and he does a whole tribute to Elvis Presley and what a great person he was and I was like no that doesn't sound right it's not true yeah oh oh I have no idea I I believe you from everything I can glean all these years later you know with the the wonderful world of of of Wikipedia and you know Memoirs and knowing that he's you know deceased and not able to defend himself these days real creep oh boy okay music innovator certainly sure I thought he like stole that too real creep um I don't know I know nothing about it yeah you know there's there's the whole like 14 year old girlfriend and oh boy it's a super cool stuff like that um and I don't think you can I don't think you can really just different time hand wave that away so I'm kind of at risk right now yeah but what I would like to say is maybe what I could do is I could point to a couple of of role models that seem pretty okay from what I've seen uh the sadine brothers who played uh for the Vancouver Canucks not a huge organized sports fan these days just because it it's and again this might just be my cynicism showing through but I just can't help but look at it as yet another business full of Brands owned by billionaires who don't even treat this as their main project in a lot of cases it's just like a silly little side vanity project for them like it's just it all just kind of sucks the way the players are treated like cattle well-paid cattle well-compensated cattle in a lot of cases sometimes not um but cattle the whole thing just makes me really uncomfortable but the city and brothers seem to be actually pretty cool um yeah oh aborno says you've mentioned Bill Watterson before 100 percent for all I know he kills cats um I don't know him personally right like I don't know him um they say never meet your Heroes I I'm pretty sure there's also a difference like I don't know for me people in this position it doesn't mean a fanboy over them I'd Fanboy over Bill Waterson yeah they they got me they got me on that one oh he seems pretty cool Fanboy is a pretty intense term I if you take it to like its potential my hands would be shaking okay like I I but like I play it cool but like I would have to be consciously like studied this person's life no their Works maybe but their life like I know enough about his personal life to know that he maintains a pretty quiet yeah but that's like somewhere blasted everywhere if you ever look up his name yeah but I've looked up his name so I you know I've gone that far yeah I don't know I I think people could take this stuff pretty far but maybe I'm applying too much to it yeah people are suggesting some pretty decent um people have got some pretty decent suggestions you know Mr Rogers actually seems to have legitimately just been a good decent human being um yeah yep good luck meeting Bill Watterson he's like the Phantom yeah yeah 100 I I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even do a book tour for his upcoming graphic novel which I have pre-ordered even though I always say don't pre-order all right two to three more topics yeah all right hit me I don't even know if we have three more topics oh okay the RTX 4070 was released and can I say I think we finally managed to nail a GPU review yeah I think you can we uh yeah we we we managed to get all the all the synergies lined up between the lab with the web writing team um they've got a lot of their data collection it's nailed down better uh we've got a lot of our processes in terms of ingesting that data and turning it into the important beats that matter in video form uh rather than just being a written article that we read out to the camera so I think we managed to maintain the LTT Soul while also authoritatively speaking based on Rock Solid data about what you need to know about this product I think we did a great job of figuring out where the RTX 4070 fits in both nvidia's plan as well as in sort of Gamers worlds um I'm really really happy the next level for us is to have supplementary written articles on lttlabs.com but that's we've got it in our sights it doesn't need to happen yet um I think there's I think there's room for us to go in more depth in the right medium for that kind of additional depth but that is what I want a GPU review video to be what you need to know with good energy in a in a non-confusing way um and I'm really glad that we did manage to nail it on the RTX 4070 because there was a ton of room for us to get this one wrong I think that we did a better job than we've done in the past of presenting both sides of the story I think that during the GPU pricing crisis that took place during the pandemic we we were kind of I don't know realists about the situation like yeah um the only answer is wait and like sorry people didn't like me saying look there's nothing I can do about this this is the way that it is and in the context of the market as it is right now this is a good deal or you know like I like I could I could sit and complain about this but it's not going to do anything people didn't like sort of that defeatist sort of attitude um but then we also can't just whine yeah that's not constructive it does absolutely nothing other than be fatiguing I understand for everyone but it's just yeah there's there is genuinely nothing we can really do so I feel like what we did better with the RTX 470 is we empathize better there was there was one video in particular I can't remember which one it was where we just we did a we did kind of a a post-mortem on it and we went okay well what did we get wrong here because we didn't say anything that was actually incorrect but people didn't want to hear it and I'm reminded of that bit in Rick and Morty where Rick says something I don't remember what it is um and Morty basically says you know yeah no one cares if you're right because you're not right um and so we kind of looked at we went yeah this was this was a little bit so it was a little too abrasive like we've gotta we've got to take a more empathizing tone where we're delivering the bad news the 40 70 the bad news is that this is a super tepid GPU yeah um but we're finding a way to tell the good parts of the story and that in that it is the best value we've seen in a long time so if you must have a GPU today what kind of lame is that yeah I guess you're good to go GPU today I guess it's it's you know the best deal from Nvidia in in quite some time but we're tempering that with the reality that Nvidia shapes the GPU market and can make something a good deal or a bad deal anyway there's uh blah blah blah launched this week to deeply mixed reception Nvidia has been advertising it as a major jump uh but I mean that's only in games that support DLS says three frame generation that I I mean I'm calling it I guess I don't think that's ever going to take off in the competitive scene I just don't think it's realistic yeah more latency more bad especially if you're going to spend half of your time talking out of this side of your mouth marketing you know Nvidia reflex and you can't spend the other half of your time talking out of this side of your mouth with you know dlss three the beautification as long as you're talking to two very different Gamers then I guess it's okay but for competition dlss3 is never going to matter for experiential games it might get pretty okay um yeah because without frame generation it's closer to a 1.3 X performance increase the new graphics card is also a hundred dollars more expensive than the previous gen card was at launch despite the fact that discrete graphic sales have been dropping for over a year and hit a 20-year low last Financial quarter discussion question here is what do the shrinking differences between graphics card generations mean for the future of the market I mean longer upgrade Cycles yeah longer upgrade cycles and I think um a shift from game developers towards targeting a lower spec right like we're not I don't think we're ever going to see a crisis again c-r-y-s-i-s I don't think we're ever gonna see I don't think we're gonna ever have that moment again where a game developer goes out of their way to create a game that literally nothing on the market can run because why would you do that you'd be so much better off targeting the steam deck yeah you can create a pretty visually stunning game that will run on the steam deck and has this built-in audience of people sitting there on their handhelds going what am I going to play on this thing now let's go it's it's it's it's the console mentality it's it's totally different right I also just I I think that's been kind of the idea for quite a while to be honest like a long time yeah I mean look at the super popular games right now the word we have for it is Esports titles yeah it's targeting Esports tier so basically making sure that it can run on anything and then adding some bells and whistles that realistically nobody's going to turn on anyway because they want to compete yeah and they're all it's all like fortnite and stuff like I don't know yeah it's not difficult at all to run there was a friend of mine who was shopping for a laptop recently and they're asking about like specs of dedicated gpus uh and they mentioned like these are the games that I play I'm like yeah you don't need a dedicated then you don't upgrade well they they do need a laptop but they don't need a dedicated GPU in their laptop right because they don't have a laptop right now they need a laptop in general right but like the games that they play are like little Indie titles yeah speaking of vampire survivors I'm pretty sure I could run that on onboard Graphics yeah so like whatever it's like that type of stuff and then original like whatever it was 1999 EverQuest I'm like yeah that'll run fine like whatever people are talking about cyberpunk some of the Sony ports the difference is that crisis wasn't just poorly optimized get owned it was also a Leap Forward visually the likes of which we saw at times like Half-Life 2 wasn't such a visual leap it was more of just like uh it was it was a gameplay leap for sure um Doom from that era was what was it Doom 3 or whatever the one at that time was was like visually really cool when you touch a flashlight on um like I'm trying to think like what what was what was like really really mind-blowing I mean Far Cry blew my mind it was the first like next gen shooter of of the the big three at the time which was your your Half-Life 2 your Doom 3 and your Far Cry and no one saw it coming came out of nowhere that's crytek again I I am not that familiar with stuff that came before though because I wasn't really a PC Gamer other than just like 2D casual games until you know ati's 90 9000 Series the old 9000 Series when I got a discrete GPU like I didn't I played some stuff but I wasn't purchasing Hardware so it was just like whatever the computers that my dad had could run um yes back then it was like descent and like old school like Civ one and stuff like that you know what cyberpunk has that Ray tracing overdrive mode I guess I guess is that but I almost I don't know maybe I'm maybe I'm looking at this wrong but I don't really see that as part of the base game the same way that just like a graphic slider at release was like where you're where it came out targeting Hardware that didn't exist that's why I said that that's new yeah like it's it doesn't seem fair they're more trying to keep up um but that's not a bad that's not a bad thing they're doing it yeah I was also going to mention that everyone that I currently know that plays cyberpunk are people that also play like Star Citizen and whatever else and you can tell like the reason why they like playing games is so they can make that GPU burn um and they they want like Super Hyper visual realism and like all this other type of stuff not necessarily because they're actually like enjoying the game right so they're basically a me or a jake yeah they like setting things up and like seeing them run like morphologists we we play sarcism with him he posted some screenshot but like wow cyberpunk's amazing because he turned on the new Ray tracing thing and I was like yep yep not not surprised that makes sense yeah new topic oh yeah right new topic this is great Universal Music Group um saw this on ARS Technica demands that platforms block AI scraping of music um so they have apparently told streaming platforms like apple music and Spotify to block AI services from scraping Melodies and lyrics from songs that it holds the copyright to bro that's insanely like impossibly hard to do also just utterly well I'm looking for a word in effect like what what's the strongest possible word for ineffective futile let's go with futile do you imagine okay that there that that just because Spotify and apple music block this that there is no other way to train these music generation AIS on your songs if you can play a song There's no way to capture that sound it's actually impossible you definitely cannot capture the sound of something that you play through your device no I mean we'd have to invent like a diaphragm that that kind of Senses air like Sonic vibrations are too complicated um I mean how could but how could you possibly how could you possibly turn that vibration into into a signal though especially when like it's it's streaming it's technically being like downloaded to your computer in a raw data State I mean how could you get that look to produce look I mean wait no that's that's impossible but but back back to the hold on I think I've got an idea back to the idea of the vibrating diaphragm maybe if there maybe if you had magnets involved somehow but then how are you going to manufacture things this precise you'd need some kind of you need some kind of conductive material though that could carry whatever signals back to some kind of recording device so we're back to your problem we would need a recording device you might need an interface in between there as well to like properly I would wear out yeah it would it would wear out because you'd have to have electrons flowing through it that's that's a problem and it would it would constantly fail like electrons are basically like they're like energy I don't know if physics will ever be able because they're they're mass and they have a charge they're like both sides of E equals MC squared right they're mass and energy yeah you can't balance that equation foreign so they've been sending out a large number of takedown notices against AI generated songs that come from AIS trained on copyrighted materials according to a Universal Music spokesperson we have a moral and Commercial responsibility to our artists to work to prevent the unauthorized use of their music and to stop platforms from ingesting content that violates the right of artists and other creators we expect our platform Partners will want to prevent their services from being used in ways that harm artists Noble goal it just doesn't matter oh yeah it's like the six month pause thing it's like yeah I understand why you would want this yeah I understand why Universal Media Group would would Universal Music Group sorry I applied our own naming scheme to them um I understand why they would want to do this it's just completely irrelevant and futile like you mentioned it just doesn't matter is you the discussion question is is Universal Music correct in demanding this can they even stop it correct like yeah probably sure yeah yeah like from a legal standpoint yeah for sure they need to try to defend against these things like if I was writing uh if I was writing a video platform code okay and I was just like hmm well why don't I just steal YouTube and twitch and Netflix's like source code use it to train an AI and then have an AI right a video platform for me I want to start a new streaming platform even if it's legal it's pretty unethical yeah twitch recently had this huge leak I'll just take all their stuff oh well yeah yeah okay yeah so even if it was legal and you couldn't prove it it's extremely unethical I mean otherwise why would we have intellectual property rights at all um yeah but can they do anything to stop music from being listened to imagine being Universal music group and that being your goal good luck yeah quite the pivot um oh speaking of video streaming platforms we should talk about this it's a little awkward got the uh oh yeah yeah talk about this I've got uh a float plane c-suite at the table with me and uh oh he's giving me the look okay I think I'll focus on you guys right now please explain the way that we are leaning okay the way that we're leaning we have a way we're leaning that's a that's a way of saying what's happening someone dropped their phone yeah I'm assuming that that's the writers are having their quarterly uh hangout sesh above us they apparently decided not to go out this time because it's a fixed budget so they decided not to go out anywhere and rather than ordering restaurant food they all went to the grocery store so that they would have way more like snackies and drinks and they're hanging out at the office where there's no cost it's like yeah I gotta respect it give a bunch of Engineers a task let's be efficient yeah so anywho um the way that we're leaning hard leaning strong leaning yeah is that exclusive content um will come to YouTube memberships full plane exclusive content that's what we've called it up until now yes fpx now I still like my pitch for how to do the naming with this but yeah oh naming yeah you didn't see that bit oh no I I was saying I mean I want to explain more before I do this but I was saying we should still call it full plane exclusives and then on YouTube they should be like uh oh what's the proper naming for that these days remember no um oh like that's what it's called illicit Market exclusives oh like like like dark web like black market like I don't think that's the I don't I genuinely think that term is like not a thing anymore oh that makes sense but I don't know what replaced it genuinely I don't know but I think the term isn't a thing anymore but like that whatever the new term is sure yeah I think that would be bootleg I don't know anyway whatever so the reasoning for it is that it's been clear to us for a long time that there's a certain subset of users that are simply not willing to engage off platform take for example oh of course it's not there in the tab anymore but I saw someone send a Super Chat earlier okay they did um it was there trust me bro um and they they must know by this point that we don't respond to them but just their chosen way of engaging with us is through the YouTube platform it's very low friction realistically they've already given Google their credit card number they don't have to sign up for a third party service etc etc etc and so for us to not especially since we have memberships activated on our channel for us to not be engaging with those people is a really bad business decision with that said there are certain benefits that we're simply not going to be able to provide on the YouTube platform and there are costs that are higher on the YouTube platform than they are on the float plane platform where our costs are fixed in a sense as opposed to scaling directly with our Revenue so the way that we are leaning the way that I think it's going to work going forward is YouTube members will get all the same uh content all the same exclusive and behind the scenes and extra Cutting Room floor content that float plane members get but there will be a surcharge to compensate for the YouTube cut since it's like not our platform and there's really nothing in it for us to just take less for some reason because you want to give your credit card to Google and not to us or whatever so there will be a surcharge and there won't be a five dollar tier so the ten dollar 4K tier on float plane that gets you access to everything um is ten dollars and is a hundred dollars if you buy it for the year and on Youtube it'll be 12 and it also won't include the WAN pre-show VOD so float plane gets like you know our sort of test streaming before the show um that does not go anywhere else that will still not go to YouTube because there would be no way for us to control if it went to members only or if it went to everyone once we make the video either public or members only um it would just be the entire video um it doesn't include any quality improvements some people on floatplane often talk about particularly the audio on Wan show how much better it is on float plane compared to on YouTube there's no way for us to do that YouTube is as YouTube does um and right there's no way for us as far as I can tell if we can figure out a way to do a yearly discount we will but as far as I can tell there's no way to do a yearly discount so the point really is going to be to funnel people over to floatplane where it's better but this way at least there's a way to you is just like you're just like no I'm just I only use YouTube or whatever then you have an option to get our content yeah a lot of people are like that and I get it it's like people who shop on Amazon because it's just they have Prime and it's convenient and they only have to go one place like men ever since I remember I told you that uh you know one of my resolutions was I'm not going to stop shopping on Amazon outright like you but notice like they're admirable but my whole thing now is I do a Google search first and I click on at least two websites and if it's close to the same price like I'll pay up to like five ten bucks more if it's close to the same price I buy it somewhere else um but not if if Amazon's position in the world is anything to go by which it is most people won't do that one of the frustrating things for me is when there is literally no other option when it's like a company they like make the best this is not super common but it happens they make like the best thing in their space and it's priced decently well and all that kind of stuff like it's clearly the best option for this widget that you need to buy for whatever reason but that company only operates through Amazon it's like that that sucks um oh okay sorry float plane chat I haven't been meaning to ignore you uh Rod asks do you have a lot of memberships on YouTube understand if you can't answer we actually have about 600 YouTube members and the only benefit that we've really offered to them as other than thanks for supporting the channel so like shout out like thank you so much guys is merge discounts that I actually talked to Nick about recently I just don't think are very good so we're gonna we're gonna work on what we can do for we should make sure that parity yes yes for both float plane 10 tier and YouTube members which are going to be the equivalent tiers yeah because YouTube members won't have a reduced cost here they don't have like a five dollar or anything like that or the OG three dollar tier nothing like that so one of the things that we're going to do is uh make sure that if we do some kind of discount program then that will actually make sense um or whether it's you know exclusive merch or or whatever else the case may be the thing that exclusive merch guys is it's like a lot of work to make something good if all we were doing was just putting a logo on a mug or whatever then yeah sure fine do an exclusive wonderful play logo but as it is it's when we put a ton of work into it it's kind of painful to not do a broad release of something like I'd love to do a float plane exclusive like like super cool like like bomber jacket you know or like whatever like oh we are not doing that because we lose so much money it would make no sense yep um okay let me just see if there's any other if there's any other stuff here um does Apple pay break merged messages someone says mine didn't go through it's possible we just haven't gotten to it yet poor Dan is his fingers are on fire trying to reply to them we actually need to talk about merch messages too guys merch messages are part of the reason that the show has been drawn out to untenable lengths it's not that we don't want to talk to you guys it's just that we feel kind of obligated especially when you give us such great discussion topics or you ask us you know really cool and important questions we feel really obligated to address them and and not just hey cool merch message but like address them in a in a meaningful manner um but there's a lot of cases where Luke and I can't address every good merch message anymore it's just gotten unmanageable and Dan often doesn't know the question so we've been talking internally about what a workflow would look like where Dan has an additional stream that he can send things through so right now he can just push it out to the uh to the lower third okay so it's like hi Mom or whatever else it just goes uh or yeah Joshua H didn't leave a message so it's just like Joshua H bought an RGB diode t-shirt cool for 20 bucks um then the next one is Dan can reply via text so you'll see you know someone's question kind of like that and then there will be a follow-up one that has an answer of some sort let's see what Dan said can't wait for LTX driving up from Oregon State University do you plan on discontinuing the goal is to create as many excuse okay that's not accurate I don't think I said that oh well who replied to that I don't know was it you it was me no it could be someone else in the dashboard as not as in like an intruder but it could be someone else because I've been doing something a little bit different this week is I've been leaving a lot of them for you guys to maybe respond to via text uh because yeah I haven't been able to give uh like a reasonable response to a lot of them so who wrote sunglasses for things confiscated by TSA I didn't uh I didn't respond to that one I didn't somebody else is in here who is replying to merch messages probably Conrad I would say well because I have 85 in the queue right now okay and I've been going through and removing the ones that are kind of maybe not question related but a lot of these I think you guys could really interesting so text the second path is a text response kind of like what we're showing you and the third path is that it goes into a queue for me and Luke to discuss uh what I think we should do is create a fourth path that will essentially create a customer support ticket and we will get back to people next week I mean we already have a customer support team that's like half a dozen people at this point they're not always crazy busy so is there any reason why if your message is something like you know hey when are you guys going to do a float plane exclusive t-shirt or whatever there's no real reason for that to not go to the customer support team where they can do something meaningful with it like compile the most common requests for new items or whatever else and then relay that to the appropriate people here in the organization because even for me I can't answer every question that you guys ask are there plans for an LTD wrist rest I'm using the indoor hoodie wait as a wrist rest um that's interesting okay uh okay so that that is an answer that is correct we do not have plans for a wrist rest but I don't know who's replying and I don't know how they know that or if they know that for sure because the spaghetti made of meat was me okay from the previous one uh interesting I saw one about what's the weirdest thing you had confiscated by TSA um I remember leaving that one yeah my little tiny um my little tiny canifa hold on it was it was Conrad he's it's very good-natured uh he can see that there is a massive cue and is just trying to help I see okay if Conrad is 100 confident and I've already messaged that too okay um please sign it so that we're not sitting here going mystery who is replying to me messages a dash with your initials ones that aren't initialed are Dan and then everything else like when I respond to them I do ll at the end yeah I I put my initials I had one of these confiscated actually not that long ago that like makes sense but is unfortunate yeah it's like no more Danger is than a sharp like car key yeah realistically yeah like you you could you could knives are scary oh yeah like you could hurt someone very badly with this knife uh but that's also like clearly a tool but that's also true of like a sharpened car key or a massive variety of other things yeah yeah so I was pretty bummed because these it's a Spyderco it's like it's not a lot of metal but it's um for how small it is it's not that cheap and I'm really dumb because the last time I lost it um I actually had Vance order me a new one because I was just like oh I mean this seems like the kind of thing that an assistant might do I lost my knife can you please get me a new one and I gave him the wrong model name so I bought two knives I bought a ladybug and a bug [Laughter] oh man I don't blame Vance at all I didn't show him the one I lost I just asked for a ladybug and I don't have a ladybug I have a bug cool does anyone does anyone object to that whole turning on YouTube memberships thing because I was watching float plane chat I think for the most part like people get it the the one thing that did came up come up uh was just basically making sure there was at a very minimum parity so like YouTube shouldn't get something that float plane will be better yeah it's not going to be trade-offs we're going to be very upfront that float plane is better and if you want the best possible engagement with Linus Media Group and everything that we do that's on float plane because like there's certain things that we're just not going to be able to carry it on YouTube like the the the community on floatplane is just super cool really love it yeah oh they want to pull that makes sense yeah we should we should have been acting a little weird but I will throw one up we'll see how it goes we'll give it a shot all right guys but overall it seems like the perception is is pretty good you think are you cool with the YouTube thing is fair enough oh people are asking what about shorts so we are we are looking at um I actually talked to the social team about this recently what we're trying to do is use text and picture posts to put I don't think we're gonna do this until we've got the channels thing fully launched not beta anymore but once we do I think we're going to add a social Channel and maybe a shorts Channel and then you can subscribe to those ones for notifications if you want but otherwise we're going to turn off can we turn off notifications by default so uh for the I don't know if we can do it for specific levels but probably not for specific levels just for specific channels no that's okay so that's what I meant oh I see um okay well people can always turn off the notifications that's gonna be a lot be too much yeah like if every stupid so this is why we haven't done it yet is basically on the beta site for float plane right now there's this new sub channels feature so there's like Linus Media Group which still needs to be renamed so it's just line of sex tips right now and then all of the YouTube channels we want to add a section for Wan we want to add a section for shorts all these other types of things but if we start adding in all of these shorts and social posts your phone is just never gonna stop there are multiple people at the company that it is their whole job to effectively make it so that in this scenario your phone would never stop yeah that's true so like we don't actually necessarily want that to happen unless you're just like yeah give me everything so that'll be an option yeah but we need to not do that you need to be able to turn off notifications for channels that you might not be interested in maybe you're just in interested in like uh Mac address and Tech news well you should be able to just turn those on and turn everything else off or maybe you're interested in the opposite of that then you should be able to turn those ones off and everything else on etc etc the poll is coming Michael W you should check out open sense open sense and also do that it's a fork of PF sense that gets updated more frequently all right want to hit us Dan Oh wait we're supposed to do more topics are there more topics have you run out of topics I don't know there's New York new safety standards for lithium batteries after some fires that seems like pretty good e-bike scooters lithium ion batteries I have to have third-party certification for UL fire safety standards oh that kind of makes sense you can't just have these like random certifying themselves cool you still have 15 minutes before I'm going to turn out the lights on you so okay why don't we talk about Tesla employees sharing private recordings of users and bystanders including children we touched on this before but Tesla is now facing a class action suit following an allegation by multiple former employees that it was common practice for Tesla employees to internally share sensitive videos and images of customers often for the purpose of mockery some made memes out of the images and shared them through the internal messaging system and sometimes the sharing was between individuals other times between small groups but at times the groups contained scores of employees shared images included car accidents embarrassing personal moments nudity and customer pets and children oh yeah because like there's internal cameras right people do things in cars I I mean I never but and I've definitely never been talked to by the police about it [Laughter] so yeah if you if you had one I thought you were uh if you had one of these uh there could be a video of that you know yeah and maybe someone's like oh I recognize this guy and shares it internally like you don't want that to happen it's plain exclusive one particularly popular 2021 video showed a driver hitting a child on a bike at significant speed hard enough the child went flying another showed a person being dragged into a car apparently against their will according to Tesla its recordings are Anonymous and not linked to the user of their vehicle however several former employees claim that the recordings are linked to location data which could reveal where a user lives obviously it's unclear how widespread it was but it's well known enough that several managers pushed back on image sharing on General communication challenges as a violation of the company privacy policy in some offices these memes were seen as a way of earning social approval that might lead to a promotion as people in leadership roles were apparently particularly prolific at sharing these images well I don't I can't think of anyone in Tesla leadership who's like a meemer and doesn't have a lot of regard for just you know right yeah yep yep yeah that doesn't really check out yeah because like there is there is a certain amount of like there's there's things that can be pretty hard to detect if you're a company that deals with um like customer data if two employees in direct messages that you can't monitor are memeing about it it might be pretty hard to detect genuinely but like this doesn't sound like that it sounds very widespread several employees reported feeling paranoid while driving the company cars knowing how much informational how much information was available on the other end and how it could be used wow discussion question how does this kind of culture grow within a company um I don't know how do I how do I put this in a way that is empathetic but also based in reality people are jerk wads not all of them but enough of them um anonymity and or uh a perception that your actions are free from consequences definitely breeds a certain kind of behavior in people there's also a pretty intense amount of like if they were on the other end of this they might feel really negative about it but like oh I'm doing it so like I am good most people believe themselves as good aligned so like this is fine I'm just making a joke this isn't actually harming anyone whatever right they don't know it can't hurt them that type of stuff yeah new topic I'm kind of done with it to be honest not very cool yeah agreed Intel teams up with arm Intel and arm have announced a multi-generation agreement to optimize Intel's 18a fabrication process for arm-based chip designs Intel Foundry Services would not necessarily be producing chips directly for arm but they would be in a position to more effectively fulfill orders from armed licensees like Qualcomm and mediatek Intel described the collaboration as a way of enabling a more balanced Global supply chain for Foundry customers working in Mobile SOC design on arm-based CPU cores which is another way of saying that if China actually really does it this time and invades Taiwan you guys are going to need some way to produce chips because I don't think China is going to be super cool about shipping chips to the West after the couple of years that they've had over there Intel has described plans to produce hybrid chips that combine x86 arm and risk 5 CPU cores in the past we don't know if this is necessarily related to that but that could be kind of cool and at the same time Intel has an announced that they are selling off their server division to mytac me Tech I'm sorry exiting the server system business I actually didn't know they still did first party servers and it doesn't surprise me that they're bailing because it's a relatively low margin business I mean most of the money in that server made by super micro or Dell or whatever is going to three places Intel Nvidia or software yeah I I had the same reaction when I read this and I think some people misinterpreted this as like Intel is exiting the server space entirely not them like making their own servers because I think people didn't even realize that they did that so they like misinterpreted the title because when I read it I was like wait what because yeah I didn't think they did that either hadn't heard of those in a in a hot minute and that's it Dan I think it's time for when show after Dark except he has to go over there to do it so it's not going to be that pewy oh he's gonna automate it though oh my goodness we could totally see you walking across you've become you've become immersed in the lmg way I think Dan when he started would have insisted on not walking in front of the camera in another six months yeah yeah exactly okay it didn't take six months fine that's how it's going to be all right hit us let me sit down first man uh okay this is from Jessie hey Luke terrifying to think we are living through a progress in AI that will form the foundation of our future Utopia or Annihilation how did I know the whole content of the statement when it started with terrifying yes uh any idea how you would explain Ari to children or young teens oh it's a different direction than I was expecting to the way I've done that so far uh is to just describe it as a computer assistant an advanced computer assistant that you can control by talking to it and honestly they tend to get it pretty fast I think this is again one of those things where like we're the old people now so we're probably adjusting to it worse than the kids are I've talked to some like startup teams about it and I've seen this idea pushed around by other people as well I don't know if I said it first or not so I can't say if I stole it um but like looking at how the youngins use these tools is probably going to be a very interesting thing to do because a lot of us like a lot of what I'm getting out of it is like I'm excited for [Music] um co-pilot to come to office that announcement was insane that blew my mind when copilot comes to office I'm going to immediately be getting different teams around this office to start using it for beneficial things there's a lot of different ways that people could be more efficient with co-pilot directly built into office um that's how like old boomer me is interpreting it but how are the kids going to use it right that's an interesting question but yeah I don't know I haven't had any any young people and I've talked to a couple people that are like younger than 14 I don't know exactly how old they are about it they tend to get it pretty quick it doesn't actually seem super complicated to them which I find interesting but yeah that's it you know it's going to get scary uh Hey Linus which one of your cats would you say is your absolute favorite who oh it's got a It's gotta be my Dashie yep Dash she's the one we've had the longest um she's she's the one that likes me the most or is like bonded to me the most she people who think cats don't have relationships with people like they just see them as a food source of just obviously like never had a cat or like never cared for a cat because they they expect reciprocation they don't their love is not unconditional um so the way that she'll the way that She'll follow me around and uh you know want snuggles and and want to hang out is is really sweet she doesn't always want to be held or anything like that but she is almost always orbiting the family if everyone's upstairs Dash is upstairs if everyone's in the basement she might be chilling like over there on a chair but she likes to be near everybody she's super social and she's just such a sweetheart there's more than one of the contractors who worked on our renovation over the last couple of years more than one of them messaged me just like pictures of Dash completely unsolicited just being hilarious or being a sweetheart um and more than one Linus Media Group Employee who was at my house for some reason or another unsolicited messaged me a picture of Dash just being a sweetheart or being hilarious she's just a great cat okay this one uh might be for Luke as well it's from Chris Luke and Linus with companies now getting their own LM llms uh it's hard to say what are your thoughts on companies or governments being able to create an actually effective ai-powered lie detector I don't what do you mean yeah I don't know if any test can be defeated by a suitably armed um test taker also I don't know if I don't know if I just I just don't know if I buy that using a thing that notoriously lies all the time as a lie detector is kind of hilarious in my opinion yeah I think we can move on to the next one yeah easy um this is from Aaron recently purchased a gigabyte 4080 Aero OC the HDMI 2.1 connection is last in priority making a multi-monitor setup impossible to show bias on the HDMI if a DisplayPort is connected why oh this is a rough one um I can answer your question it's because DisplayPort 99 times out of 100 is going to be the primary display for a GPU unless you are only connected via HDMI so that's that's why that's the default Behavior as for why multi-monitor management isn't better in this day and age I don't rightly know obviously this is a pretty Niche use case mine but I was Furious recently like just oh just just furious recently because I was trying to do something that felt very simple what I wanted was to manually assign each of my displays so my computer sits in this or in the mechanical room and it runs my desktop display upstairs it runs the system like another display over in the land room where with my kids machine so that we can play Minecraft dungeons or whatever and I also wanted to play in the theater room um and I have optical cables going everywhere it's like it all it all works I can I can I can do that what I wanted was to manually assign the display priority so the number you know how in Windows yeah it's like this is display one this is two this is when you click identify it was the number yeah and there are certain there are certain things that um I forget I I don't even remember exactly why it mattered but there are certain things that are easier to do if a particular display is display number one interesting not just primary it has to be display one that's right I thought it was primary interesting yeah and when you set a display as your primary display that doesn't make it display number one oh it definitely doesn't that just makes it your primary display for all intents and purposes so it was that I think what I wanted to do was I wanted to have it duplicated and then only go to one and then I wanted to be able to like like I wanted to make sure that that one upstairs was always the first one and the theater room was always the third one and there was some reason I wanted to do that I'm sorry I just don't I don't remember anymore and what I discovered is that there are some weird hackie workarounds if you do a fresh install and you plug in the first one first that like should make it the first one okay there are also registry keys that maybe you can whatever some people have had some success with moving the displays around on different ports but most people reported that didn't work but there is no hard and fast way for you to just tell Windows actually off this is display one this is my primary display um and this has been a problem I remember at NCIX I had four monitors and what I what I did at that time is I got frustrated at some point and I just physically moved them because you know every time a display driver reset happened or whatever I didn't want them mixed up I didn't want to deal with that I just wanted them to be detected correctly you cannot do that that's pretty frustrating it is infuriating and obviously there's you know people helpfully reply to users saying well Linux you can do this like that's that's nice but I'm not running Linux thank you um yeah so if anyone from Microsoft is watching please please just let me assign my display priority um that would be great thank you I really wish I remembered why it was so infuriating I was trying to do I was trying to do something like I wanted all three of them running and then when when one would kick in it would like boot off the other one I don't know I can't remember anymore sorry okay Dan okay this is from Ian Linus with AI having the ability to be trained on anything do you believe at some point we will see an AI antivirus or the need for an anti-ai virus to stop AI actions AI versus anti-ai AI totally already a thing yeah like machine learning enabled anti-malware will look for certain patterns of behavior in programs and it will flag them even if they aren't a known threat yep okay got another one here the year is 2073 Grand Palina steps in front of the camera one last time to record his final Linus Tech tips video before finally retiring what would said video be about you retired pretty old yeah wow I made it really far I know I'm pretty sure that this job would kill me long before then um could be I mean I think it would just be like a big you know thank you to everyone I I man or okay if it has to be about an actual product oh I'd kind of love for it to be some like kind of grand project you know like a whole room water cooling or like a scrap yard Wars but I think more realistically it would probably be a troll like it'd probably be a fake review of a product that's not real but we like did some movie Magic and made it seem real or something like that I could I could I could see going out with like like a mystery um you know how did he how did he have that how did how did he get that working you know like I yeah I could see just like being a complete memer about it but I still have a sense of humor when I'm not old I hope so I think he'll still be a troll just improves with age uh okay next steps from Mason hello Dan and the talent uh I thank you I feel so what about Luke [Music] [Applause] good one yeah I collect CRTs I have 12 now and cannot explain how I justify keeping all of them is there any now antiquitated technology that you don't think you could ever get rid of man these are like really tough questions Antiquated technology I don't think I could get rid of made of phones our phone uh watch seems pretty Superfluous these days but I just I don't know I kind of just like wearing them this doesn't even have the right time on it this is that Pebble that uh Pebble time that shank mods gave me I'm wearing it so that I remember to figure out Rebel it's like this weird side load old pebbled apps something thing apparently you could like still get these things working I just haven't gotten around to it I dedicated about three minutes to it I was like okay this is more than a three minute project and then I gave up temporarily so this is to like remind me to do it um Antiquated Tech that you can't bring yourself to get rid of I mean Luke doesn't buy anything so he doesn't have anything there's some retro console stuff yeah okay I'd have a hard time getting rid of um you could if you needed to though just emulate but absolutely yeah and have seriously thought about it and just don't have to right now which is the only reason why I haven't but like if I needed money I would flip my retro consoles immediately that'd be the first thing to go I don't know so yeah not really I don't know uh next up Wan show with guests as the olden days when guests take a long time I love bringing guests on but how do I say this tactfully generally speaking the guest segments don't perform as well as when it's just me and Luke and I guess that guy um so there's no audience drive to make that happen to speaking broadly um and it makes the show take even longer which is already a problem we have so we're not solving any problems and we're creating new ones it's a good thing to have in the back pocket for when it like totally makes sense by either us very specifically wanting to add promotion to a thing or a person for a very specific reason or because like we need help with a topic if there's like hey you did this thing we want to talk to you about it Maybe but also maybe not because it might be better to just talk to you about it offline and then cover the notes okay got another one here would you ever make a hand warmer for typing my hands freeze in office and a small heated desk pad or infrared heater would be amazing also any Logistics tips for a prospective badminton gym owner uh don't do it it's not a profitable business I'm only getting into it because I intend to lose money um oh mind you real estate might not be as expensive where you are okay you know good luck in that case uh here it's super dumb as for the hand warmer that's the opposite direction that I'm used to hearing that go I'm used to people getting like little fans and stuff not yeah you're a warm boy though like I guarantee you Yvonne would benefit from like a desktop hand warmer I'd be afraid to ship anything that's designed to generate heat yeah I'd just be worried about liability and like melting stuff yeah like someone touching it and burning themselves the general move is to put a cage in front of it that limits yeah but now this is becoming very cumbersome so you've got a heating element wiring you've got a cage um hmm I don't know I think you could do a wrist rest actually by using that same like wire that they use in heating blankets yeah um yeah the wrist rest could be doable [Laughter] there's definitely options you could do gloves as well but like I hate wearing gloves when I'm typing or using a mouse yeah like gamer gloves were a thing for a very small period of time I think we even bought a bunch of gamer gloves with the intention of doing a Roundup what the heck happened to that dang it but the number of videos that were like oh yeah we should totally do that and it's never used wild yeah one of the problems is like power delivery if it's gloves or something like that that gets weird um I mean people people wear giant helmets so like yeah you never know what nerds will wear giant you mean VR yeah okay I was like what is this right no I mean Daft Punk oh man that's buddy no promises yeah uh what's the progress update on the stubby screwdriver is something different compared to the full-size screwdriver in development I would really love to hear more about it since we saw it last it's just small and it's still mostly on track it looks like for LTX launch exciting I'm excited to Linus and Luke but mostly Luke another AI question what are your thoughts on chat gpt4 being used for sports betting stock trading and crypto trading or prediction love the show shout out from south Louisiana I think the a got cut off we all knew it was going to happen we kind of talked about it earlier in the show use at your own risk I don't know what to tell you I don't give Financial advice uh sounds scary though using a language predictor to predict the results of the horse race like really I mean the horses have names in language yeah okay I think just deciding that it is a catch-all solution for all AI or ml tasks is a little weird um but yeah use your own risk I don't know okay as a new subscriber I have a question regarding float plane I have the goals for the platform change since the initial Inception and what are the goals for float plane currently the core goal has never changed the core goal is based around the name yeah um the the name float plane was spawned from nikolite um and it's it comes from the it might not take off but it'll never sink kind of idea that core concept applies to how we do like development and technological choices for the platform so it makes things a lot harder it makes things a lot more complicated to be honest because there's there's much easier ways of doing things but when we build something we always build it so that it's like it can run on any platform it can run with any service so like we might we might use some service for some specific thing but I can guarantee you that that is portable to something else with little effort for like everything that we do um and it would be easier because the industry is absolutely built for buy-in a lot of these big companies want you to I don't remember what it's called normally I would be able to remember but I don't remember right now there's a there's a term for it is it just lock-in uh there's a term for it when you start working with one company and then by working with them more and more and more and more uh it become it would become extremely painful for you to switch to another company because all your stuff is built specifically for their platform crms are brutal for that yeah oh my God yeah tons of different things are brutal for that they want that and even if it's not sunk cost no vendor lock yeah vendor lock um even if they advertise like oh it's not like that usually the path of least resistance is to do that anyways so we we often go down the path of definitely not least resistance which is rough but I mean we're still here we're still floating we're still okay and that's that's still kicking kind of the main goal there's obviously other goals in regards to like features and whatever else but those are those are like the things that we do to make the platform worth using for people but the main goal is to make sure that the platform will always be here what's up he's on it I got it I'm doing it now we didn't announce the new product we launched on the store what did we launch oh oh yeah new desk pad hey looks sick it does actually what the heck just happened poof we're back new desk pad oh yeah it's sick it's actually inspired by the sign in the lounge oh yeah that makes sense yeah so it's kind of a Janus design if you really think about it yeah um I think that the one who actually brought it to life here was uh Lloyd and there might have been some collaboration from Sarah our uh or another designer um because you know it started on a wall and had to make its way into you know a a design for a mouse pad and B a whole bunch of different sizes because this is yet another one of our 29.99 no matter what size you chew my goodness uh products the amount of excuse but yeah it's a it's uh it's a less stealthy but still pretty darn stealthy design we did brand this one so it has a big fat LTT in the middle for your convenience right where your keyboard will be we wanted the keyboard to feel like the center of this design so you can see that even though the logo is dead center the way that the line work comes in that's actually pretty cool it really works well with the keyboard being the the kind of uh origin of all of the traces here in the circuit that's smart yeah so it's a it's a super it's the little thoughtful stuff like that that does happen it these conversations do take place as part of the product development process but it's not often easy to communicate to the to the to you to you all um yeah same great three and a half millimeter base uh same great anti-free stitching around the edge same great top surface weave I know you guys will love it because um our desk pad has been a modest success to say the least like what that's a lot of reviews these are not that is five stars these are not curated these are not filtered these are just people flipping love this thing I I pretty much promise you that most of this stuff is just uh people who like never got their order um shipping complications yeah and messaged support and we took a long time to get back to them and then they just like never updated their review but we do get back to everyone it just does take some time sometimes and there's nothing we can do about that stuff we don't remove it we leave it there you know that's our that's that's on us you know we gotta we gotta do better um but you know we can't prevent couriers from taking a long time sometimes shipments get lost stuff happens uh what we can do is reply to people in timely manner and I've seen really good feedback about our our customer service lately in fact we managed to blow up on the subreddit for doing something good for a change which was really nice recently we we reached out proactively about the thing with the tech Sac where the image on the site didn't match what people actually got so what we decided to do even though it's like it's a functionally equivalent product and it's like better actually we offered everyone a ten dollar credit for you know just being chill or if they didn't like that then we offered just a full refund in return like will he will take it back no problem so people were people were pretty happy with that cool it's the kind of thing that we would do even if we didn't have to because we don't have to but we do it anyway because uh you know trust me bro I got you want the message hit me okay hey lld most companies Focus around how to automate tasks are there functions in worker lifestyle that you all will purposefully take the harder or more expensive route to preserve human skill and jobs uh oh I was typing response and didn't hear the whole thing uh with with automation becoming most people would prioritize automation are there areas where you would do it the hard way on purpose in order to preserve human skill and jobs I think there's a lot of examples oh and jobs I don't know there's a lot of examples of areas where people do it the hard way on purpose because people value the effort and skill and craftsmanship involved I don't think the art was the point I think productivity was the point here and if that's the case honestly for me not really I don't think that's true for almost anyone that's not how people work well that that's how like as a society we kind of create our our rules though like the number of times that we will that will will regulate something in order to preserve jobs it's it's wild to me like imagine imagine if we uh okay uh hold on okay sure here's an example did you know that in Richmond uh gas stations have to be full service in order to preserve gas pumping jobs I think that's okay so that is something that I've heard of before I think that is usually laughed at and is uncommon but does happen it's awfully sort of speckled all over the place that feel free to okay apparently there's a couple of states that have that exact yeah no it's speckled all over the place I meant that genuinely I know it happens in a couple States I know it happens in as few spots around Canada but it's definitely uncommon I mean it is not the norm I should say that the way that the car dealership industry has been preserved in general that's just wow that's lobbying yeah but the The Preserve our jobs lobbying is pretty much job preservation if you really boil it down wow I don't agree with that in the slightest I mean okay it's economic abuse to a huge degree okay I didn't say it wasn't abuse you specifically said it is this if you boil it down yeah uh it's self-interested job preservation then how about that I don't know if it's saying if someone's like I want to make 40 million this year instead of 29 million this year I don't know if saying that is is job preservation I don't know if that's fair I don't I don't think the average interest of lobbying is like I want to make sure I can protect my huge swath of employees well right but unless you can keep your industry going strong which okay so okay I see where you're going with this I think it's usually masquerades as job preservation then I mean that's the argument that they'll make often sure they just lie a lot yeah sure it's a profit preservation says uh says float plane chat sure proper preservation for a very small amount of people that are extremely Beyond like Delta above survival um well okay I mean it also does impact other people down the chain sure like it's not necessarily positively um if your boss makes like to use the example I just made if your boss makes 40 mil instead of 29 million there is zero guarantee that that benefits you in any way whatsoever yeah but your boss won't make any million if your industry is you know if your industry goes the way of the ice harvesting industry then the ice harvesting I don't think all lobbying is that type of preservation though um okay well okay I mean I'm open to an example I don't pay that much attention to lobbying a significant amount of it is being able to keep profits High by not following different ethical standards whatever that isn't necessarily resisting your entire industry from disappearing that's keeping profits High yeah I don't know I guess man I'm just trying I'm thinking like okay another great example of lobbying uh you know keeping your industry from disappearing would be something like um like like QuickBooks like personal tax software like that's that's a really interesting rabbit hole it's a really intense Lobby if not for lobbying that industry simply wouldn't need to exist it shouldn't and everyone who works in it from all the way to the top all the way down to the bottom yes to the bottom nothing better for the world will just be gone and yeah it could do something more useful so yeah like I'm let's all hope they die faster than they currently are yeah um yeah this is great float plane chats cold take lobbying yeah pretty much I mean there is I am sure there is examples of good lobbying I I never said it was good to be very good yeah like I'm sure there is good examples of it though it's just a system that is clearly vast majority of the time abused for hyper bad negative things no no disagreement there yeah uh what was the question oh right uh what oh yeah is there anything that we would do the the like inefficient way to do the hard way just to preserve the art of it almost nothing I mean I guess I do some stuff the hard way like uh I don't know we well no okay you just said to preserve the other but it's not the art it's for practical purposes yeah I don't think I would ever not use a dolly just so that I could like work out my arms more yeah well no because then there's like a health benefit yeah okay I would do that I would take the stairs there are examples though that fit this yeah not effect not if efficiency was a factor there okay all right let's get you another one here uh Linus YouTube suggested a Wan show from 2013 where you were a seemingly authentic CAD Pat parka issued in the Canadian Armed Forces wondering how you got one and if you kept it allegedly isn't it gone um yeah I don't know what happened to it yeah it's one of those things or it's like the uh that that stupid Apple uh at Mark Pippin concept yeah where the heck is that I don't know it it is gone it's just it disappeared that jacket disappeared I have no idea what happened to it my mom gave it to me it was a gift um that jacket kept a actually very high number of people warm yeah it's a helpful jacket super warm when we were in like hyper startup mode working out of his garage we didn't necessarily have a lot of heating and in winter months that jacket would be like passed around because it was really warm oh man okay uh last one I've got here are curated uh why has an AMD released any new gpus since the 7900 Series in December why hold off releasing the mid-range cards leaks seem to say next launch is June when nvidia's 4070 is out now 40 60 is coming in May because it's really really hard just because the architecture is you know done and and out there and on the market doesn't mean that those mid-tier chips are fully bug tested right like man modern microprocessors again back to that that hot take earlier that consumer PC Hardware is cheap they're in they're a miracle they are actually an engineering Marvel they're magic um basically right the fact that the 7900 series exists at all amazes me uh never mind where's the 7800 and where's the 7700 and I like obviously we want less expensive cards right like yeah it's good we want the latest architecture but it's it's hard work it's hard grueling difficult time consuming work and you know a company like AMD has a lot going on they can't just focus on their their discrete desktop gpus they've also got their scientific and data center gpus they've got the GPU products that are built into their CPUs now which um are no longer really lag behind by as much in terms of technology I would imagine that if the roadmap is anything to go on we're going to see rdna 3rd dna4 igpus much with with much less lag compared to the first appearance of that architecture on on a desktop add-in card right don't forget about the custom silicon work that they do for partners like Sony and Microsoft and valve we have no idea what this chip in the a in the Asus Rog Ally is but apparently it's custom silicon as well and the thing is you've only got even if you're a company with the resources of AMD you have a finite number of people on your team right and even if you saw a profitable opportunity like oh yeah let's bring our mid-range GPU to Market faster you and what army what how many GPU experts are there on Earth that aren't already gainfully employed it's not like you can just hire another hundred person tubes but it doesn't work like that right so we just have to be patient it's the bottom line it's yeah it's frustrating right like obviously yeah I want where's our DNA for let's go but it takes time it's really challenging a lot of massive respect for the people who work on this stuff all right now that's the end of the curated um oh okay I can just like curate some yeah go for it or there's a read massive mountain of incoming messages they're all just like questions that's right the text response we have a thing that can display them at the end of the show if we don't get to them or play the rest of the queue um you know new thing that we're trying give it a go yep um I don't know maybe try to go through the massive mountain of messages and and curate some of them while we do text responses yeah let's do it sure let's let's go this is cool uh Nicholas T says Hey Linus I've been promoted to a new position where I measure individual transistors feel strange to be doing a job you couldn't show anything in particular surprise you during the lab tour at Micron I think the most surprising thing at Micron was just how jazzed everyone was to be there at somewhere like Nvidia where they have a more consumer-facing brand even someone like Intel where they they show up at gaming events and you know they have skulls and your branding or whatever um they're cool yeah you you kind of expect to find you know path passionate Enthusiast people but Micron has just about the most boring um corporate image I think in the tech industry right like for they're they're huge they're enormous they come from potato land they they they make you know gosh darn it the stablest the dram chip let's go um but just how excited people seemed to work at Micron was was really cool uh really inspiring uh I managed to get one in that time uh this is from Justin long time VOD Watcher and first time buyer I work as a network engineer for a large U.S Telecom company if you could change one thing about the Telecom industry what would it be um the fact that you work for a large U.S Telecom company no I mean well sort of like I I really wish there was less consolidation in the Telecom industry I I I can see that Mr Ryan Reynolds came out virtually unscathed from that whole mint mobile sale but um mint mobile seemed like you know a good thing um and now there's more consolidation so cool you know like I I would I would like to see more public ownership of basic infrastructure I I mean I think it's fair to say that in some ways the fiber line between you and the nearest nearest internet exchange is more important than the road between you and the nearest city like as long as you can get Basics like you know Food Water Shelter there are entire industries that just run on those fiber lines and don't need a road when I was picking my apartment that was like a huge portion of the decision making and a lot of people were quite surprised but like I don't know let's stand by it okay another one for you here this is from Lilith talking uh to talking of the stream deck and Portables do you think the future of them will be framework like experience with modular parts so the product doesn't function like a console I.E get outdated fast hmm I don't think it's that realistic I I think that ah I mean it could be done framework has shown us that the limit was our imagination it wasn't the technology so it could be done but it would take someone to come in and do it I mean when someone when Asus was here for their for their Ally preview I I told someone from their their notebook team because it's the same team working on the Ally I was like hey have you guys seen the framework 16 yet they're like oh no I'm like okay you guys need to sit up and pay attention I'm an investor in framework I don't mind if they kick your butt but like you guys need to sit up and pay attention you guys need to come map this head-on this is a serious thing that's happening now there are going to be good devices that have take this modular uh more reusable approach to their design and you guys have got to figure this out because you can't just react to it later and um I had made a joke about how you know haha the Ally is pretty cool but you know I'd rather have one that was made by someone like a framework where I don't have to buy a whole new one in order to keep using my um oh crap uh my hall effect joysticks that I already upgraded you know my chassis to or whatever else and they're like oh well I hope they don't get into it I'm like no what you should hope is that you guys do a better job and make upgradable stuff so I yeah I'd like to see it happen but I don't know whether to hope for it or not more modular Electronics it just hasn't been the trend up until now it's hard when they get small like that too yeah and it's it is legitimately actually really challenging yeah you know what's so great about the Ally well one of the things that's so great is it has this like phenomenal cooling system that is somehow super quiet and runs really cool I haven't opened it yet actually haven't opened it yet even though they're not here to supervise me anymore why haven't I opened it yet anyway I haven't opened it yet but I would imagine that a really finely tuned cooling solution is going to make it more difficult to have that main board be upgradable okay next up uh Linus and Luke any suggestions on courses or resources to take my tech troubleshooting skills from have you tried turning it on on back on again to something more refined real uh really depends what you more specifically want to get into if you're trying to get into uh like infrastructure stuff it admin type things uh networking courses networking certifications are often a pretty good angle to go in um there's also some stuff you can do with oh what's that active directory um getting into active directory I'm assuming the direction you want to go into is it I don't know if that's a good assumption or not but yeah I'll get into some certification courses for like not networking active directory stuff like that okay next up uh High LL plus d Linus do you know if there's any LTT garments that we either should or shouldn't use fabric softener on I was taught to always use it but I've also heard that it isn't good for some Fabrics I didn't know that so here's the thing Bridget and I particular Bridget and I often butt heads about proper treatment of garments she will say things like well you're not supposed to put this in the dryer oh that's going to happen anyway I was getting there you know you're not supposed to put this in the dryer and you know the this you know you know applique thing or whatever else and blah blah blah and I'm like right but I'm gonna put it in the dryer so where are we at with this um and it drives her crazy because she and a lot of people on the team here do treat their clothes properly um but you know I want us to try to make everything okay for the people who don't and you know what you do have to treat your clothes properly like a a hoodie that you put in the dryer on high every time if it has if it's if it's cotton like it it it it will shrink it's natural fibroid it behaves how it behaves and we can pre-shrink it and we do but there's a limit to to what you can do with pre-shrinking um so with all of that said we strive to make it so you can kind of do whatever you want we do list the materials composition on our products as we're legally required to do so if there's any materials that are are good or bad with fabric softener I guess you can just sort of follow whatever guidelines you can find but in general um we kind of try to make things that are resilient last a long time 10. no I didn't unmute myself um all right last one I've got here is Salah from Android Basha Channel my question to Linus is what do you think about tech channels releasing videos a couple minutes ahead of the official NDA timeline it's happened multiple times oh um that's an interesting question hmm I did it once uh we maybe twice I don't know we we released a video like one minute before the actual official embargo lift and I think the idea was to see if it would have any kind of impact and what we determined was that a no one noticed or cared and B it didn't have an impact um yeah in the in the long term what I've found is that I mean here like I can I can show you guys this right like here let's go into let's go into the channel dashboard let's let's let's head to the analytics shall we you guys want to see some Analytics yes I know I do these edicts be anal nice one ding no that's not worth a ding that's not even a joke that's just stupid it's over there it's not worth it it's too far away no dings you can tell what time of night it is all right so first things first um you can see there's some videos coming soon what's it like to work at Linus Media Group the sequel did anyone talk to you nope really oh interesting Adam was in charge this time not included oh all right well I guess you don't didn't really work at lmg for most of the period we're covering here so also we have another one pushing the GT 1030 to the max um they'll have better titles when we actually release them so here let's find uh let's find a video okay here here here here's here's one no this is the cleanest setup so let's go into uh what is it reach I hate I still hate this dashboard so a bunch of really positive feedback on that video by the way inferior because it's already on full play oh uh which one the the um what it's like to work at lmg oh really yeah okay well I'm not allowed to watch it so I guess yeah I'm just a Philippine chat just said it's really good oh I'm glad it's I'm really glad it's good cool all right anywho uh what am I looking for ah yes Impressions no man where's oh yeah here we go here we just like flashbanged everyone by the way sorry uh yeah I'm sorry I don't have dark reader on this profile uh okay Bell notification sent here we go they sent 911 000 subscribers a notification the click-through rate is within the typical range for YouTube of 0.5 to 2.5 percent 1.1 percent which means our views from Bell notifications as a Channel with 14 15 however many millions of subscribers was 9 800. it's actually kind of amazing this is a video with three million views total Impressions 38.2 million with a click-through rate of 5.4 the click-through rate of your impressions that you get from browse features suggested videos all these places that actually matter at all is three times no no like over four times higher so the only thing that launching a little bit early could could possibly do for you is give you a bit of a of an early boost on those like notification views right because one minute later everyone's going to be on pretty much equal footing when it comes to to browse and suggest it and all that stuff we're at the point now where we don't even really pay attention to what time of day we launch a video because we know that it's all going to come out in the wash in the long term so that's that's where we're at on it I really don't think it's a big deal and I do think it's a big deal to break a legal agreement that you've signed so you just should launch at the right time like you know everyone just should but I I don't think it's a big deal for you like I don't think you're at a competitive disadvantage if other narrative Wells are pulling these kinds of moves hold on a second uh Android Basha is in the chat saying it might not impact you but trust me myself and several other channels I know have seen noticeable drops at the first hour reach um yeah but that first hour the first hour is important but it also isn't big picture you've got to be looking at um click through you've got to be looking at retention because that is ultimately what is going to drive that piece of content and you know that's a that's a real it's a real challenge it's way harder um you know being the first one with content is is a valid strategy it's even a good strategy but it's an exhausting strategy and it's a very challenging strategy and I don't think it's a sustainable strategy okay got another one here for you Linus and Luke thoughts on nebula's 250 dollar lifetime membership isn't video streaming expensive did we talk about this already or did you and I just talk about that I think you and I were talking about that yeah it's um okay so nebula is an interesting model right as far as I can tell um not a lot of people are actually watching on the site and that doesn't really matter to them like I don't think I don't think that really matters because it's far more of a just like hey I want to support creators uh here's a very sort of small amount of financial contribution um of which very little makes its way to the you know the individual Creator right because you're not subscribing to an individual Creator you're subscribing to the entire platform so each Creator is getting a very small fraction of of that amount that's just sort of inherent if you if you actually watched a lot on the platform um but the benefit of it is that they can achieve a level of scale that particularly boosted by the cross promotion that they do with curiosity stream has enabled them to reach um a subscriber count that is that is quite substantial so they've got this they've got these subscribers right um they've got this sort of uh yeah so they've got this user count they've got this roster of creators that as far as I can tell are not really making a ton of money just from like nebula payouts as far as I can tell a lot of the a lot of the financial incentive for creators is promoting subscribing to curiositystream because it includes nebula um and so which is good for creators because they get some revenue from nebula but more importantly they have an ownership stake in nebula so any creators who join nebula have an ownership stake in the platform and that's as far as I can tell as an outsider the the real point I don't think the point is the actual monthly checks that a creator with you know 20 000 YouTube subscribers and however many people are watching them on nebula because you can kind of extrapolate that it's like probably like four people right so I I don't think they're getting a significant amount of money on a monthly basis from nebula but I think the goal is that when nebula exits when it sells everyone who joined as a creator um everyone who joined as a Creator is going to get a piece of that action so with that in mind what does a 250 lifetime subscription to a streaming platform look like well it looks like a streaming platform that doesn't actually stream a lot of video wanting to boost subscriber counts so that when they eventually exit in some way or IPO or whatever it is that they plan to do they will be able to have a bigger payout for their shareholders who are the creators which is not a bad thing it's just a very different model from the way that we structure things which is generally more ongoing sustainability and less um exit strategy but also sometimes just need a burst of I've been trying to respond to messages so I didn't listen to all that but you sometimes need a burst of income if you're trying to avoid outside investor stuff and it might be worth lower returns in the future for that burst of income now depending on what you're trying to do hmm um yeah there's there's like a lot uh there's too many sitting and incoming we need to be responding to these faster yep I'm I'm working on it we can talk about it hit me all right Anonymous have you ever seen a surface electron display monitor if uh not do you think you can get a hold of one you ever heard of one of these SCD SED monitors my understanding is outside of a couple of trade show demos they'd never existed it was It was supposed to be a replacement for CRT that was not as thin as LCD but with the contrast and and brightness benefits of of CRT and response time benefits of crtf and Canon was working on it if I recall correctly I was very excited about it at the time if it's the one I'm thinking of um and I I was really disappointed that it never made it to to light but OLED has pretty much negated any need for SED to make it to Market all right what are the odds of LTT partnering with iFixit for an orange and black Precision driver kit um that's like ifixit's model I yeah I could definitely see us doing more tools in the future but I don't really see any reason why either of us would necessarily co-brand with the other like having more hands in the pot is I don't know not really not really beneficial to either of us I don't think love your work and would love to work for you do you guys still offer relocation assistance I don't know about it you got a job and find out check our job postings uh let's see uh any chance on releasing a case for screwdriver that can also fit all the bit sets um yes it'll be a it'll be a long time though you know how slow we are and that's a that's a product that I don't think we would do just like a less expensive faster Chinese mold for like we did for the cable management arches that's the kind of product that we would probably want to get done by um itd it's either Innovative or innovation tool and die something like a local company we'd probably get the molds made there because we'd want it to be like on par with the quality of the screwdriver that it goes with right so I don't see that happening anytime super soon what is your favorite small form factor case right now oh we were actually shooting a video about this new one from Dan case that is just so cool um Adam was telling me about it it looks amazing yeah uh what's the man what dang it is it oh is it out uh uh yeah yeah this one okay super cool C4 sfx this thing is sick it's sick uh watch the video it's sick that's all I have to say about that I built one in the previous Dan Case and it was just incredible no this one's so much better I know your Den cases is crap that's okay your name is Dan and you still don't know anything about Dan Case anymore nothing it's new Dan case it's a new game oh my gosh I've been replaced uh okay uh as someone who's watched since the kitchen set days is there any videos that you look back on from the early days of LTT and want to recreate For Old Times Sake recreate I mean I wish we could do classic scrap yard Wars again yeah just we had a question about that in the pre-show and I was like man it just doesn't it can't work it doesn't work yeah then I don't know it's funny like um yeah I'd love to I'd love to do whole room water cooling again but we can't just interrupt everyone's jobs to help us put fittings on things anymore just it just doesn't really like work that way here certain scale issues yeah I I've fairly often come back to the like this is not that old of a video okay it's a very old video but it's not that old of a video in kitchen in the house scale you know what I mean uh but the WTF is going on with the X12 and Vulcan I've often just kind of personally wondered that like what's the current state of those because like when I launch a game and I see options right now I don't I'm not 100 confident in which one to choose you know so yeah don't Vulcan be cool well no but even even like okay because that video went more in depth on these things even when it's like do you want to launch in dx11 or dx12 only DX is the option for a while there it was 11 not 12. uh-huh I mean I still have issues with like Anno as far as I know they've just like never patched the bugginess a lot of games that came around that era it was better to run them in dx11 than 12 so like is that completely fixed for new games what kind of stragglers are we looking at stuff like that I think it'd be interesting okay uh Luke are there any plans for adding split screen support for the iPad OS app on float plane oh we we don't really do specific for iPad development um got them so like not in the near future and Linus any timeline on the luxury backpack oh this is probably a question you were expecting me to answer extremely quickly oh boy it's not though um oh boy okay first of all it's not luxury it's Lux no that is what we're gonna call it we're just gonna call it box okay all right fine second of all I don't know I don't want to release something that I'm not completely confident in and right now I'm really happy with the state that it's in but what I don't know is how long will I be happy with the state that it's in so oh whoops would I press um there we go thanks Dan um so okay there's a couple of things that are wrong with this prototype the water bottle holder is a little bit too tight I have a similar issue with some of the pockets over here other than that it's basically it's basically perfect I I've noticed that as it's broken in this Zipper at the very front this one this one right here has turned from kind of straight to uh you can't you know you're really not gonna be able to see that to more of like uh like a smile like it's kind of oh yeah here we go here's a better angle we'll get you guys this angle here so it's more like kind of curved now so you can see that but that's like a natural thing that's going to happen with uh with a leather product right like it tends to you know you can see the water bottle bulge a little bit more than you could see with the um uh with the oh it starts with an r or whatever the with the reprieve fabric that we use for the regular backpack um my issue is that this is an a vegan leather which is like probably the most successful Rebrand in all of history vegan leather yeah like fake leather to vegan leather yeah uh anyway this is this is a vegan leather product but it's not just like plastic this is an apple leather so it's like a like a fruit based vegan leather that behaves boy does it ever feel and act a lot like leather from the manufacturer they've told us that you can you can kind of you could buff scuffs out of it with with Polish just like with leather they've told us the durability should be very similar to leather I haven't observed any issues with it in my time using it but I've only been using it for a couple months can I draw long term you know years-long conclusions about this fabric based on the time I've spent with it um not with 100 confidence and this is not going to be a cheap product I would be surprised if it isn't at least double of what the regular backpack costs because a the material is far more costly and B working with it is far more costly it's far more time consuming so it's pretty much ready for us to place an order we would have to make a couple small changes to the uh to the construction and we're ready to go but I've been holding off because I just want it to be really good and I don't like I've asked if uh so so uh we have a partner that does a lot of material testing for us called Chima and I've asked is there anything we can do in terms of like long-term durability tests on it or like can we do scuff tests and then can we get polishes and try to polish it like what can we do to can you figure this out guys um and so we're working on that but it's going to take time I've got a lot of people in the chat asking well why not just make it out of real leather do you want it to be fifteen hundred dollars two grand um okay um yeah that would be a bit of leather is freaking hard like if you're spending that much on leather uh seam stitching can be an issue so are these hand-stitched bags now yeah well yeah that's the thing right yeah I'm adding that clarification because I'm sure someone's Googling how much leather costs and they're going to be like well it's not the oh it's the workmanship there's more to it than that yeah okay okay um okay well yeah we might have to we might have to call it are there are there any more like outstanding ones you guys see in this you guys are sending you guys got to send more just like hey hi Mom you know stuff because we actually can't do this uh yes the UV blocking hoodie is still coming um you know what why don't we try and Rapid Fire a few let's let's try it sure okay how are scientific Anonymous asks how are scientific backgrounds understood or perceived within the software development field that's coming from an astrophysicist how are scientific backgrounds that's not rapid fire he Shrugged next question okay Robert says can't wait to set this up on my test bench at work Microsoft Loop just went live for my org what's one non-ai product that is upcoming or live that you guys especially Dan are super excited for non-ai product yeah I can read these too okay so what is it it's especially Dan uh uh I I didn't actually catch that I don't know um non-tech products no non-ai non-ai product this rapid fire concept is not working at all let's read along with you then uh non-ai AR I want AR to be good one day I love it nice good answer okay Adam if there's going to be a Linus Tech tips TV series or movie who would you cast to play you Reynolds to play you yeah oh I was thinking um the other Ryan I've just had the amount of times remember the the the Ryan Gosling Ryan Gosling looks so much more like you sorry that's the one I meant I'm really bad with actor names yeah Ryan Gosling for Luke you would nail it yeah I'm with that that is who I meant I apologize I have no idea for me I'm sorry I also don't know too many actors okay next oh okay I was okay hello gentlemen what is your favorite controller to use with PC it's the Xbox controller for both of us um other than Nelson keyboard PS4 for him Xbox for us cool oh yeah stick drift yep yep sorry that's a thing um so I really like the King Kong 2 but I don't use it on PC mostly because I just haven't I just I just didn't think of it I just have it I have it paired to my switch and I just didn't think about it yeah okay uh Ian in the spirit of the AI heavy show this week with the potential of AI providing scammers with more powerful tools has anyone thought of newer safety measures to take that's going to be a big problems now is AI fighting back that's the only new thing I've seen in that realm Jared says I'm a brand new Mainframe storage admin and I was super excited to see your Z16 and Mainframe mentioned last when do you foresee any other potential future uses in Mainframe Tech I mean I think I think Luke kind of outlined what is going to be the the biggest one is these internal large language models like that's the way I I think I think you're right I don't think there's any avoiding it I think I call it was that like three weeks ago when I talked to you in your office and I was like this is like my most long shot one so far yeah there's companies already doing it I thought it was like a year out it's 100 already happening so Paul L asks ever considered consulting services like uh matpat from game theorist ltt's culture employee customer treatment are really powerful for professionals and orgs they often ground me when managing people I mean the way that I see it here it is you're asking me we're talking about it let's talk about it not for very long because this is rapid fire but the point is that um I don't know my uncle kind of sat me down and said you know the worst kind of business is a Consulting business and I kind of said oh well why because like Consulting seems like it pays a lot of money Consultants like that's a stereotype right it's consultants make a lot of money compared to people who in a lot of cases are actually do things yeah more qualified and actually do things um and he said the reason the Consulting business is the worst kind of business is because it's not scalable if you want to double your Revenue then you can raise your rates sure you could double your rates but there's a finite amount of of doubling that you can do to your rates so what you need to do then is you need to double your Consultants you need to double your staff and at some point you collapse under your own weight unless you can somehow scale the Consulting that you do to many many more many more people per consultant I kind of went oh okay so like YouTube then Okay so we've solved this I don't need to be a one-on-one consultant anymore I could I could just you know I could just scale and so we we everything we do here we're trying to even wancho right so how can we scale land show by doing it faster yes thank you Luke that's very helpful um and also by chopping it up into clips so uh you know by by leveraging it to sponsors and also leveraging AdSense and also uh creating benefits to float plane subscribers to subscribe for a better way into experience with better audio quality uh by uh creating merch messages so that we can create more content for Wan show thanks to you guys asking wonderful questions like this uh so we are we're quadruple dipping on wancho that's something that a Consulting business is always going to struggle with Because unless you can find and train Consultants at an astronomical rate you're always going to be limited to linear rather than exponential growth uh Daniel asks I was wondering if you could explain some of the benefits and drawbacks of building a home PC in a rack versus a tower Tower is easier better Hardware compatibility racks go in racks that's the main benefit of them what happened to the G Suite Google Drive backup too slow or too close to privateering I think we ran into some issues with it Jake would actually be a better person to answer that question um I think it had something to do with rate limiting or something yeah but I think it was overcomeable but it was like going to involve a bunch of like Hassle and scripting and realistically it was gonna like cost a bunch of money to actually take the data back out if we ever needed it anyway and we just didn't really care that much because it's the Vault it's like a proof of content more than anything Charles says are you concerned about Creator Warehouse working with other creators when they come to you with a product that you've either been thinking about making or a product you think you could do better yeah this is a very valid concern like if we're kind of okay actually there's a perfect example of this we uh want to do a lighter for a really long time we had some cool fun ideas for a lighter project Kyle actually talked about it in his float plane exclusive meet the team and you know I was looking at you know hacksmith's lighter they have a they have a one coming or something and we wanted to carry it on our store and I was like okay are we going to be in an awkward position where if we release a lighter they're going to feel like oh we'll screw you buddy and you're releasing your own lighter I mean I don't know I mean there's a precedent for it it's not like New Egg doesn't carry Rose will cases which is their home brand and they also carry Corsair cases you just have to be seems chill with it like even more not that you aren't already but even more careful to not have things that could be perceived as like a copycat yeah yeah that's fair um Michael asks do you have any advice or regrets on raising children in regards to technology or the internet don't use it as a crutch talk to kids that's that's the key Joseph I remember when the streams not the camel coat yeah we're talking about the camo coat again a decade ago in high school you inspired me to build a PC so I could play PlanetSide 2 and Battlefield 3. what is your most nostalgic gaming era Google great games 2004 man great games 2004. it's a thing I think my nostalgic gaming era goes goes back farther though I think it's more just like when you kind of crystallized when you 2004 was just a hell of a year though I'm I'm actually like pretty I think we've talked about this Warcraft 3 come out in 2004 because I was gonna say Warcraft Half-Life 2 original World of Warcraft Grand Theft Auto San Andreas The Sims 2 Halo 2 Burnout 3 Far Cry the original Counter-Strike Source Battlefield Vietnam uh Star Wars Battlefront the one that people actually liked Doom 3 Metal Gear 3 just like Sid Meier's Pirates Fable unreal 2004 able as well Ninja Gaiden uh driver which I actually thought was cool but not everyone thinks he's cool um there's there's a ton Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic to um the best year in gaming ever Splinter Cell Pandora tomorrow I don't know if that was great or not um okay it was pretty wild that's fair enough but I think for me it's got to be like snesera yeah yeah I'm just old that's that's I mean that's fine I just I like talking about 2004 because there's one hell of a year all right I replied to a couple text ones are they still coming in yeah yeah you got to do let you got to do one every 25 seconds come on guys is that the raid well not today but most of the day yeah um yeah you guys were just basically treading water with these and I'm sorry to dump that on you no it's okay we just gotta keep pumping we'll figure it out with the current reality of AI technology what do you think about students pursuing careers as web developers oh I was currently I replied to that one I said pretty tough right now right now uh we will still hold on we will still need Developers for like a long time very long time people saying that it's going to fully replace developers right now are just wrong um speaking of that um I think you already replied to that one too yeah oh it was gone okay what's going on keep going I think we're all doing the same things on top of each other um but yeah we're gonna need Developers for a long time there are going to be companies that try to shrink because of this type of stuff uh they're going to run into some problems a lot of the things that AI development is currently doing is not like super Advanced and a lot of it still needs a guiding hand from developers I do think Junior positions are going to be the first ones to take a hit I think that makes sense um but companies will still need senior developers so yeah get after it the recent examples of AMD and Intel gpus performance gaining over time with driver updates are the labs going to test to make sure that the driver updates are keeping up with uh performance we retest for every review so yep you're gonna always be able to trust that the numbers you're looking at from our latest content is based on the latest drivers and Linus how do you handle determining trustability in your employees I tend to be if anything too trusting um so I rely on processes and managers and HR to kind of uh you know monitor people's work and make sure that they're doing the right things in general I think we have a really good crew here um like it the app Mark Pippin is missing yeah but it never occurred to me that someone would have stolen it it's I I it's probably a like mishap thing the box was super old and ratty I think it was probably just a really unfortunate accident yeah are you going to be doing latency timing for different controllers yeah um well it might be kind of challenging for a certain um we're certainly going to something we'll consider yeah do you have any plans on Labs testing screen protectors no there's no plans for that right now I think that would in order to draw meaningful conclusions you would have to have sample sizes far greater than what would be practical for us to test are you guys going to be looking at the new Acer 3D screen they're using AI magic to turn 2D content into 3D the new 3D screens that I've seen that are like 4K OLED every other actually no there's ones that aren't OLED two anyway the new glasses list 3D that I've seen is kind of unbelievable it uses camera eye tracking to know like which eyes looking at it from where and then it's like some kind of like shift thing anyway the point is it can like account for where you're it's it's it's kind of mind-blowing and it's uh it's pretty cool have you traveled with your steam deck if so do you have a go to mobile charging solution or other accessories that you can stuff in his backpack oh uh I just purchased yeah I just carry one type c charger the one for my laptop and then I use it for my phone my um ineo actually I've been using the Ally lately but yeah so for my Ally and for my laptop it's like freaking awesome it's nothing special it's just the one that came with my old flow x13 laptop I I'm not that picky when it comes to Chargers any plans for polo shirts for those of us nerds who need to wear polos at work also restock on tablet when we have some really exciting work wear coming we have what we're calling Tech pants where they're like really comfortable and they like have pockets and stuff but they still look professional enough that you could wear them at a workplace that requires slacks and then we also just have like some some just kind of basic very minimal or invisible branding tops that are that are going to be very work appropriate I'm going to interject I just want to answer this one vocally Ryan n says what do you think about companies that blockchat GPT for fear of leaking proprietary information what would you suggest to ease their fears um I cannot ease their fears I don't know where it went I can't hide it if you guys see that one hide it um I cannot ease their fears this is this is a problem that I've been mentioning for a while chat or open AI is super transparent about the fact that they're reading all the responses and they've already had a leak of information this is something that people should not really be doing it's up to your company to decide your your security policies if you put all this proprietary information on something like Google docs for instance you're sharing it to a certain degree with Google and there are security implications with that um does that mean you would trust open AI That's a decision that you have to make but I do believe as we've mentioned a couple times and even talked about on today's show that certain companies with certain levels of data security are going to run local offline versions of these things um because of those things so it's it's not an unfounded fear so I can't dismiss it but yeah oh this is such a good one Sebastian L asks hi Linus and Luke I'm a store manager in an apple premium reseller and would like to hear how you would sell Apple products or the brand knowing everything you do ease of use build quality this is that easy to use my mom spent years with Android phones and never really got it within a week of having an iPhone it completely clicked and she totally understood everything it worked fine that ah man I don't know I have not had the same experience yeah me neither but for some people it's a thing um I I probably would sell the benefit of I mean particularly the iPhone I don't really think I could sell a Mac very easily but the iPhone is a pretty obvious one to me uh you just kind of don't have to think about it it'll it'll work for like six or seven years and then you can get a new one I would I would sell the longevity um oh I think you already did this uh blockchat GPT Thing Luke you are a genuine role model answer this through text I didn't want to I teach classes to help incoming cable technicians uh learn to install Network infrastructure what would it be what what would I it like to see in their installers what would it like to see in their installers to help make things easier um that's a really broad question how I was going to answer it is just like a drive and willingness to learn new things because it's an area that is like pretty much your whole job is maintaining what you have and also moving it forward with the constant March of Technology if you have someone who's not that interested in learning new things in that position in my opinion unless they're in a space that doesn't evolve they're not going to do well you like constantly have to use new stuff so I know that's not something you can teach them necessarily but it's a thing I do not have a 10-year Vision Charles dang it we're gonna try we're gonna try to still exist in 10 years that's the vision you still exists um Noah says I'm my friend and I are really excited for the future of qdo-led we want to know how common you think the tech will be in the average user's monitor I don't know if it'll be qdo-led or it'll be future technology I'd love to see micro LED take over just because I hate the idea of manufacturing future E-Waste right and OLED even quantum dot OLED has a finite lifespan and micro LED looks like it extends that life span significantly so I would I would like to see that take over uh question for you guys Landon what's a recent janky solution to a problem that was just too much effort to fix properly I do this stuff so often that I don't even fully register everything anymore because it's just like how I operate so I'm not actively thinking about like this is the janky solution it's just like this is how I deal with problems I couldn't get my webcam in the right spot on top of my monitor so I just like took the cable and I um like I kind of like attached it to something so that the amount of weight was just enough that it wouldn't move at the spot that I need it instead of like doing it properly it's just like kind of tied to another cable so if that other cable ever moved then it would move again like I didn't anchor it to anything real so I did that today yeah nice yep oh yeah that's not nothing big but now it's just how I live dealing with every single thing like fully officially properly is just not not very efficient and not necessary in my opinion um no I don't really recommend a ton of baby Tech just like a baby monitor is nice to have but don't go overboard this is stuff you're only going to use like the infant stage like six to nine months and then that's it and then it's just E-Waste like don't don't overdo it Jordan I got I got one that I want to answer verbally uh Luke I'm a bios engineer specializing in Security on the motherboard that got hacked for complete Security it's best not to keep the board boot kits are becoming more oh where'd it go boot kits are becoming more common namely black lotus ah this is this is the trouble like we we had that short go out where we smashed the SSD and there's a bunch of responses being like couldn't you have saved it wouldn't have been possible it is possible it would have been okay probably actually probably very probably it's also technically possible it wouldn't have and it wasn't worth the risk so we didn't do it this is another situation where like now I'm getting a bios engineer telling me to throw the motherboard like the plan right now is to re-solder the chip not to throw the motherboard I I'm pretty certain that is fine I do not believe we have to throw out the motherboard I think if we completely replace the chip it should be okay maybe I should should be this makes me want to look into it I'm not aware of any other storage on a motherboard me neither so like it should be fine what I've been trying to figure out is is flashing it fine no it's not nope you're sure yep okay then yeah I guess we're re-soldering the chip because I don't want to throw that board away that's too much waste and completely replacing yeah as far as I know the only form of storage on the board it should be fine like genuinely should be fine as far as my understanding goes I have never heard of shift phones me neither oh they're headphones that makes oh no there's also a phone um okay yup no idea never heard of it uh neat thanks Anonymous uh Anthony what resources website and online communities to use to keep up with AI I mean honestly it's just everywhere I look these days I don't really have to go out of my way Luke it's just you use Luke yeah it is literally everywhere though like I don't know it's all over the place hey thanks Carrie um uh Rainier says I could really use a way to redeem all these gift cards I've been collecting to store credit on my LT account please well you could buy something that's the option what do you mean um Ashley huge fan of the WAN show and just wanted to say thanks for adding women's undergarments to the LTD store my girlfriend and I have both been waiting to buy a pair heck yeah thanks I'm really excited for our next his and hers undergarment project okay I'm just gonna leak it matching strawberry print the internet wants the gamer socks sorry programming sucks uh Stephen uh my daughter and I love the show we're in the UK and every side oh okay that would be just a show yep okay uh oh uh all hail the LTT backpack says Jonathan D late at night A car pulled into my lane and immediately stopped I had to break hard in my backpack but the laptop went flying at my glove box it survived heck yeah a feature I'd love to see in merch messages being able to bring it up oh okay just built my first PC with the LTD screwdriver heck yeah what's the one thing you want to sell on LTD store but isn't practical in some way the desk we've designed these like super cool cableless desks and they're just they're too big and impractical for us to figure out how to build and ship right now Casey says greatly appreciate your videos and banter find myself disappointed in robot lawnmower technology AI Vision Tech is somewhat here for this possible home video we actually have one coming we did a sponsored video with um ecoflow it's pretty cool it's coming along I wouldn't say it's like a no-brainer that everyone should just buy one buy this at this point in time but it's definitely coming along um background playback is definitely something that we are working on but it's going to take some time oh wow people are people are moving things let's move them uh Gianluca hi I'm From Italy what do you think about the fact that the Privacy guarantor a government entity blocked access to chat GPT oh I did not see that uh and I so I don't have any thoughts on that but that's kind of wild considering short runs a gear with custom brand instead of the LTT logo if people were willing to pay a premium I mean Creator Warehouse exists in order for us to do that so you would have to get in touch and I think we have a site that we're going to launch that sort of talks about those Services more in the future but yeah that's absolutely something we would do MLA Tech oh you know what the last gen of TVs was so good that I just have not really felt like I've needed to look that closely at the New Gen I think we have examples coming from Sony Samsung and LG for our Roundup but it doesn't seem to have been the huge leap forward that the previous gen was okay and I think that is pretty much oh no this is interesting okay last one Garen says um managed to catch a live show whoop you have the wealth no okay yup have you ever considered seed funding or mentoring smaller text-based creators I don't know what would that even look like like I don't want to I don't want to make them like um what's uh what's a what's a word like I don't want them to be feel like they owe us something right like we've definitely we've got LTX coming up where it's a chance for people to kind of get together and collab and network that's something I guess we're doing we're paying we're paying airfare and hotel for a lot of creators to to come and kind of meet up obviously there's a benefit to us it makes our event cooler for the community as well but like I don't know I think the best thing we can do is just be an open book like I've got a lot of feedback that our videos about how we make money have really helped guide smaller creators yeah there's a um I'm still kind of learning like 100 what it is but there's a student-run thing for Harvard and MIT students called prod it's a student-run non-profit that's like somewhat of a startup incubator for MIT and Harvard students and I'm helping doing Mentor stuff with them so yes and I think that's it thank you for tuning in we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad Channel bye duration's 420. [Music] [Music]

Channel: Linus Tech Tips

Views: 1,755,029

Keywords: pcmr, building, competition, gamers, how to, review, intel, amd, cpu, gpu, gaming

Id: T5PNAeE6fOY

Length: 235min 53sec (14153 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 15 2023