How To Use Echo & Delay Sounds On Guitar [In Your Band]

we're all about your cool delay sounds but how do you use them in your band easy fan change [Music] foreign [Applause] [Music] so from the volleyball that's really beautiful what do you call that set in the status of all keys yeah d minor d minor yeah hey everyone welcome to that pedal show dan here mick here hello and if you can't start with a spinal tap quote what can you do um lovely dan ah really lovely thank you very much very beautiful i've had a tear uh in my eye part the way through it largely because the snare drum was still on and i had to go because i had to go around and turn it off and the good news is the reason the snare drum is there is because um dougie fresh so douglas of doug shire very fresh thank you freelander very good dougie tubbs tubber doug will be on the drums uh putting some of this stuff we're about to talk about in context but first some housekeeping first of all please go to that pedal show store and buy stuff it's how we fund this show indeed uh we don't take any money from manufacturers uh we fund it ourselves by selling stuff like this yeah so buy stuff and that's nice it's very much appreciated sad face goodness me and secondly please subscribe please hit the subscribe button or the bell or whatever it else is you do on youtube to make sure you don't miss any of this scintillating straight to the point comment content even um right what we doing dan right we're going to look at some delay tones in context in the context of in the context of playing in a band a simple band so simple drums and bass uh which you'll hear in a bit um but yeah we're going to have a look at six quick uh yeah i shouldn't say quick one talking about delay times six individual delay times and sort of themes and variations of and how they work in the context of playing music yeah this is stuff we've covered all before in previous videos uh and we'll probably go into more depth uh on those things in previous videos however what we haven't done before has demonstrated them alongside in inverted comments uh commas music get me words mixed up today dan you're all emotional i think i think it was they're playing it it was the play in the beginning it scrambled the language part of my it did cerebellar it's just like oh it's just like gr sound you got now okay close that again i'm gonna lamp him what you'll also notice is that we've got a selection of common or garden pedals on the board there um pretty much easily accessible stuff we've deliberately chosen the dd200 from boss because every single delay sound we're going to get today is coming from that pedal indeed and we're going to take a rip roaring romp through delay times from very short to very very long indeed so let's start with the shortest delay time yeah we're going to demonstrate them here sounds banned and then we're going to add band and do them in context lovely i need to drink less coffee i you're great on coffee you know after the sixth one intimate hairy right uh let's start with so i i love doing this this is a really short delay time not quite flanger chorus delay time but we're talking about you know 40 milliseconds [Music] um i like to do this with a delay time that's got a bit of top to it um but not digital something like a clean tape emulation i think works really well for this so plenty of trouble in the repeats yeah plenty of trouble in the repeats so we're starting at short delay time we might call this a doubling or a thickening delay yeah down at 40 milliseconds 40 milliseconds let's hear it on and off then so okay the ants we're using today we've got the uh super black magic and we have the deluxe reverb together sounds lastly the odr one on [Music] super short delay time [Music] [Applause] keep playing i'll turn it on and off okay and i am going to murder you for that for that volume [Music] very cool it's very cool very very effective so let's hear that in the band [Music] uh [Music] um [Music] hey [Music] [Music] uh very cool okay moving on from there let's go up to i'm going to arbitrarily choose 120 milliseconds okay and we'll call this slapback so those of you who like a bit of rock and roll um well pretty much lots of early pop music slapbacks are an echo sound that you'll recognize instantly i hope so i can't see down it's underneath my hand 57 65 72 84 89 91 90 103 111 t 12 120 120 120 what's the mode you've got set at the moment uh let's set on tape so that's a tape okay it doesn't really matter with these with the shorter delay times it it doesn't matter quite so much which type you've got set because you're not hearing the repeat for very long who was the there's a famous guitar used to daily three scotty moore scotty moore yeah and everyone knows him for his his tape sounds yeah in his later yeah yeah career career put a dd3 on right so um i'll play we'll turn it on and off and then dan maybe you can manipulate it to what you think would get to the perfect or a better slapback sound okay what would you like [Music] so [Music] it's a move up from what dan did in the first sound so it still does some of that thickening yeah job yep but because the delay is now three times as long you can hear it more overtly right so what did you do you turn the effect level down a bit i turned the feedback right down so we're getting a single slap single repeat yep slap back one slap not slaps back yeah exactly so it's a bump up yeah and just the effect they were just down a little bit so that wasn't overpowering the original it's there to support the the note right yep it's not there to um being like an exact duplicate it's there to support it so just down a little bit uh and then a single repeat sounds fantastic for a variation on this delay time um a really cool sort of echo sound if we turn the effect level down a little bit yeah and turn the feedback up so the feedback being the amount of repeats that we hear yeah right so if i go from here's the current slap back sound [Music] so i'll turn the effect level down a little bit and the feedback up so instead of the single slap you're getting exactly just you're getting but it's down in the mix and what that does is it supports it's a great thing for uh solo tones so add a bit of the idea on top of that [Music] [Laughter] [Music] um [Music] so [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] [Music] ah [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] okay we're going to go up again a little bit i'm going to introduce a slightly different concept here which is multi-head delay and again you can watch our previous videos on that in the um dd200 it's got a mode called drum which we're going to choose which is the echo rec vincent echo rex style most people associate this with pink floyd david gilmore and indeed good old sid barrett there and what it gives you is a staggered repeat so you don't just get one head repeating you get up to four i'm going to dial it in and see where we get to drum come on come on come on mick come on make parameter look at that we'll go uh i'll tell you what let's have them all on so what you'll get now is uh is this [Music] so [Music] i'm going to add some modulation to give some chorusing in the repeats [Music] [Applause] i'm going to turn the feedback up so it doesn't just die away and what you get is like a little bit of reverb underneath [Music] [Applause] [Music] the reason i've chosen it is because if you don't have a reverb pedal i think having those heads one two and three doing quite a lot of repeats almost sits as a reverb underneath and if that's getting in the way a bit too much you can just roll the tone down a bit so that it sits away a bit be interesting to try and make that work in the mix just see if we can get dan's having a fiddle let's see if we can get uh like uh here we go so this is heads three and four just three three and four [Music] awesome so that's like a jewel head that's two heads instead of all four so you get less of the reverb effect you just get two big delays working on one another right [Music] really cool it's such a cool sound really cool let's see if we can make it work in a mix [Music] [Applause] [Music] me [Music] now [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] okay me again sorry for those of you who don't necessarily use a lot of delay or you or you're new to it this is where i came into delay and this would be my go-to setting that i'd use for everything right so if you're not sure about what to do with delay just do this don't know how tap tempo works not really sure about how long or short it should be i found if you go either for a tape or an analog style we'll stick with the tape style because what we've also got on the dd200 is a tone control so we can just affect how bright those repeats are nice i'm going to go to 335 milliseconds and the reason i chose 335 milliseconds is because it's one of my favorite guitars i love that so it's completely out arbitrary i can almost tap it 343 look at that 335 okay so what we get here the feedback set quite high so we'll probably get quite a lot of repeats here's the sound without the delay loads of repeats if i try and play anything now [Music] it's trippy right and i'm sure you could have a great weekend doing that with some help um what we'll do is we'll turn the feedback right down i want one and a bit repeats something like that i'm going to turn the effect level down i'm going to turn the mod depth up you might not hear it that much on just one repeat you'd hear it more if we turn the feedback up back up again [Music] and again here's here's a listen to a bright repeat and a not so bright repeat [Music] that's really a matter of taste and if you're just getting used to delaying you find it stamps over everything i've we've discovered and we've discussed it on the show a lot that rolling that tone down can just help it sit out the way yeah in conjunction with not too many repeats and quite a low level right now it's kind of doing a similar job um to the thing that dan discussed in the first example at 120 milliseconds but also the 125 when you turned it the effect level down yeah it's doing a similar job it's doing a pad right but it's more over okay so and i would use this for anything where i just want some support for one of the better sure for one of a bit and as i say because there's only one repeat and because it's quite low in the mix it doesn't necessarily matter that it's not in time with the music you're playing we'll see if that works so here we go [Music] hey [Music] [Music] uh [Music] mix [Music] [Applause] [Music] and [Music] ready [Music] bye [Music] [Applause] oh [Applause] [Music] uh [Music] [Music] [Applause] dot at eight right so people who know dotted eighth know that it's the edge thing um how can i demonstrate that without getting banned from youtube let me see uh if i go to an analog it's also a wolf airwolf you remember no you where you play that dude so it's also albert lee dotted eights have been used um a great deal now one feature of some delay pedals which dan is just getting into here um if you've got a pedal such as the dd200 or indeed most of the modern multi-function digital delays and indeed quite a few of the simpler ones like the jhs i don't know whether it's the panther curve or the other one it's quite a common feature on a modern delay pedal to have a subdivisions button yep and what that enables you to do in fact you explain it well as you tap in your quarter note so one two three four it'll automatically sort out the delay time in subdivisions whether you want that a triplet or a yeah dotted eighth or dotted quarter note or whatever that is you can set your subdivision so that the delay time matches up to that subdivision so if you are playing the streets have no name yeah you know one two three four you're tapping the time yeah yeah you do your uh really conscious of playing something different [Music] [Music] he will run [Music] [Applause] [Music] it's such a cool sound and of course back in the old days if you were doing it on something like a deluxe memory man in the way that mr edge was yeah or other delay pills because they had a maximum delay time right and you max it out and that's how you'd set your if your drummer who will meet in a minute then starts to waver in time you're you're in trouble because everyone's got to play to your dotted eighth the great thing about modern delay pedals is with the subdivisions you can tap it and it will alter your dotted date as soon as it starts to drift yeah you just say all right you do your thing we mean other drummer it's not doug tagging that because he's amazing yeah let's let's see if we can make dotted dates work in a band [Music] and [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] is [Music] [Music] hey the other the other thing just quickly about the date thing is you know it's not just about the edge stuff you know just rhythmically you can do some really cool things with it which hopefully i've demonstrated or you've only got to play half as many notes there you go fantastic so last one number six this is something that's really cool um and it's like really simple but really effective and it's having a really long delay time like 800 milliseconds plus okay so not all delay pedals will be able to do this um most modern digital delay pedals will so let's go to 900 milliseconds yeah all right so of course by changing the subdivisions on the pedal you change the delay time so you need to be in the right subdivision before you set the delay time so this is 900 milliseconds of delay i'm going to go in more actually i'm going to go you're also set to a tape thing which is going off really dark do you want that um let's do i might just do a standard yeah but i'll bring the tone back a little bit the other thing i'm gonna use quite a bit of repeat yeah because you've only got well one in a bit two it's even delaying your infuriating volume control down indeed i'm sorry i will sort that out i will sort it out so now if i try and play something complicated with the sound it is a mess right it's a disaster however please do that here we go you ready [Music] so [Music] [Music] so a really important thing with this if you make a mistake you're going to hear it again and again and again so this sort of thing is really effective for really simple melodies right over you know big your big hero anthem thing a really simple melody this can sound fantastic hopefully those ones have some sort of uh chromatic scale it's gonna be hard it should be they're trying to make the same key because obviously the notes get delayed back at you and you don't want them like semitone harmonizing no let's have a listen to what that sounds like [Applause] [Music] sorry ambassador where whereas if you play something um more harmonically happy with itself [Music] it is pretty brave it is pretty brave playing them that long i literally never use anything that long so i can't wait to hear what you're gonna do with it okay let's go [Music] [Applause] [Music] hey [Music] [Music] [Applause] oh [Applause] [Music] um [Music] so [Music] hello [Music] [Music] [Music] baby [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] that was awesome that was awesome nailed it the best jams we've ever done dan wonderful wonderful we're just about to do them for what it's worth thank you so much for watching uh please subscribe if you haven't already subscribed we really appreciate it also massive thank you to our preferred retailers in the uk and europe is anderson's music of guild ford in surrey shire hello to lee and pete and all of the gang there we love you dearly we haven't seen you for ages and it feels wrong it does feel wrong yeah sending you a lot of love um and also to our mates in australia would be petal empire of brisbane queensland and we haven't seen them since oh probably a good three years yeah since nam wow 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Published: Fri Nov 26 2021