How many certs do I need to get a cloud job?

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Hi, it's Forrest Brazeal, and this is Dear Gurus,  where we answer your pressing questions about your   cloud career. And our question today comes from a  number of our learners here at ACG, and that is:   how many certifications do I need to get my first  job in the cloud? Now the first thing I want to   get out on the table right off the bat is, to  some extent, that's kind of the wrong question to   ask. There is no hiring manager on the face of the  planet who's going to look at your resume and go,   "Oh, this person has three cloud certifications.  They are a must hire!" You know, that's not going   to happen because, for the most part, hiring  managers understand that you need more than   just certifications, just a piece of paper. If  you're going to prove that you can actually do   the work of a cloud professional, you've got  to show some experience of some sort. Frankly,   if a hiring manager didn't understand that, you  probably wouldn't want to work for them anyway.   And yet we know that there is value to cloud  certifications. I've got a number of those   certs myself. they've been quite helpful to me  in my career as an engineer. Today we're going   to answer the question first of when cloud certs  are valuable versus when they might not be. so   we're going to teach you to think correctly  about the value of a cloud certification,   and then we're going to talk about realistically  how many of those certs you need to get hired.   Let's start with some reasons that cloud certs  do or do not provide value to your career. The   first reason is that cloud certs give you a  broad base of foundational knowledge. Even   if you've been an engineer for quite some  time working in the cloud, you may have   only touched a narrow subset of services, and  you may find other engineers working with you   who are doing things that you don't understand.  Cloud certs attempt to remove that imbalance by   giving you a broad base of knowledge across  all the cloud's major topic areas so you can   feel confident that you haven't missed anything.  that's valuable professionally, and it's valuable   in your job prep. in some sense, if you actually  go through the training material and cover what's   laid out by that certification path. it almost  doesn't matter whether or not you actually   take the certification exam. just covering  the material gives you all the real value.   second reason cloud certs can help your career:  even if hiring managers don't care so much about   the cert, recruiters sometimes filter on that,  especially if you're missing a more traditional   credential like a computer science degree from a  university or college. if you can bring in that   certification, that's a signal to the recruiter  that, oh, this person's serious, they've got some   external validation of the fact that they can  sit down and learn and that they know something   about the cloud. Even though that might not get  you the job, it can get your foot in the door   for that big interview. Here is the third reason  that cloud certs can be helpful for you. I know   I said before, hiring managers don't necessarily  care about certs, but there is one particular area   where certs are worth way more than paper. In  fact, they may be worth their weight in gold,   and I'm talking about the consulting industry.  big consulting shops like Accenture or Deloitte   all the way down to smaller consultants and  MSPs have a bottomless appetite for qualified   people with certifications, and there are several  reasons for that. First, it's actually the case   that a lot of these consulting shops have what are  called partnerships with the cloud providers like   AWS and Microsoft, and their partnership level  increases and they get more benefits out of that   as they have more certified people that work  for them. so they're always looking to bring   in people who have a cert count. in addition to  that, of course, if you have a certification that   simply communicates expertise to the consultant's  clients. If I'm hiring a consultant, I'd like to   know that there's some external validation that  they can actually do the job. Finally, if I got   certified, I may be able to do certain jobs as  a consultant that I couldn't do otherwise. When   I was in consulting, I used to do many what are  called well-architected reviews for AWS. that's   where you sit down with a client, and you look  at their architecture and determine if it's built   correctly according to AWS best practices. It  turns out that you can't officially perform a war   or Well Architected Review on AWS's behalf unless  you have an AWS certified solutions architect   professional credential. Many reasons why  consulting shops absolutely love to hire people   with certifications, and you can be that person  if you bring those certs in the door. Okay, you   get it. Certs aren't magic, but they do provide  some value for you. The big question now is how   many of these certs do you need to actually go out  and get a job in the cloud. Here's what I'm going   to recommend that you do. There's no single right  answer to this question, but I've seen this work   many times throughout my career and other people  I've worked with and mentored. the first thing   I'm going to recommend that you do is go out and  get a foundational technical cloud certification.   so I'm not talking here about something like  the AWS certified cloud practitioner or the   azure 900. those are great certs, but they're  really designed more for non-technical people,   and they don't communicate the expertise that  you would need to get hired into a cloud job.   so I'm talking about something like the AWS  certified solutions architect associates or the   certified developer associates or on the azure  side something like the az103. Once you've got   that foundational technical certification, at this  point, I would say for you to set your cert prep   aside for the moment and focus on pulling in some  of the hands-on expertise that hiring managers are   also going to want to see. And the best way to do  that is with portfolio projects. if you don't have   existing experience professionally in the cloud,  there are several key topic areas that you're   going to want to know that will come up in these  interviews. First, you need to be able to code a   little bit so look for something like python. it's  a fantastic backend programming language that's   used by cloud teams the world over. A Cloud Guru  has lots of great courses to help you get up to   speed on that. you're also going to want to know  a little bit about Linux and a little bit about   networking. Okay, so on the Linux side, you  want to be thinking about how the Linux file   system works. How do I use the basic commands like  your Greps and your SEDs and your aux? maybe know   a little bit about containerization. and then on  the networking side, you're going to want to know   essentially how the internet is put together, so  you want to know the basic protocols like IP and   TCP. you want to know the layers of the networking  stack. you'll want to know a little bit about DNS,   what happens when you send a request out of your  browser, and you know it goes to google and comes   back. you'll want to be sufficiently familiar with  that. Then you'll want to do some projects that   actually put that into practice for you as well  as pulling in some cloud services on top. once you   have done those basic cloud projects and you've  got a series of stories that you can tell in an   interview at this point, I would say go ahead and  start applying for jobs. while you're doing that,   it's okay to go ahead and pursue a more advanced  certification like a professional cert or one of   the specialty certifications like a security or  a networking cert. Still, you don't have to have   that completed. I wouldn't say to actually go out  and interview. it's okay for the hiring manager   to see that you're still learning, and you don't  know everything. yet you're not going to cover   everything, and you may say, well wouldn't it  help me even more if I were to go get three,   four or five certifications and have them under my  belt before I start applying. and I'm going to say   no. Past a certain point, more certs will feel  like diminishing returns. So, on the one hand,   if you don't have any certifications, it kind of  feels like, "how do I know that this person knows   anything?" But if all you're doing is getting  certifications, you're not bolstering those with   projects. At that point, it can feel like you  know how do I know this person can actually do   anything. maybe they're just doing academic work  all the time. so you've got to have a sweet spot.   you've got to have a balance in the middle, and  that's where a couple of these foundational cloud   certs plus the hands-on projects are going to help  you. If you're looking for some projects to do,   we do something every month here at A  Cloud Guru called the #cloudguruchallenge.   you can find that on social media with  the hashtag, and you can sign up for free   at acloudguru.com to participate. these are  challenges specifically designed to give you   good stories to tell in a job interview. you'll  be doing things like event-driven programming.   you'll be working with DevOps technology, CICD,  Git. you'll be building on serverless and other   cloud services, and you'll be able to take those  into a job interview, and they're guaranteed to   give you something you can talk to your hiring  manager about. okay, and that brings us to the   end of this episode of dear gurus. make sure  to like and subscribe to our youtube channel,   and don't forget to sign up at acloudguru.com to  participate in those challenges and study many   of the free courses we have available on code  on Linux on networking, and on cloud. finally,   comment below, and maybe your question will  be featured in the next episode of dear gurus.
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Keywords: A Cloud Guru, ACG, Cloud Computing, AWS, Azure, GCP, Microsoft, Amazon Web Services, Lars Klint, Ryan Kroonenburg, Faye Ellis, Google, Sam Kroonenburg, Azure This Week, GCP This Month, AWS This Week, Guru of the Week, Forrest Brazeal, Cloud certifications, cloud certs, intro to the cloud, intro to cloud, cloud for beginners, new to cloud, cloud newbie
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Length: 8min 21sec (501 seconds)
Published: Wed Oct 07 2020
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