IT IS CHAI DAY. A VETERAN OF SEVERAL PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS INCLUDING OBAMAS, CHAI IS BACK WITH US. >> GOOD TO BE BACK. >> I SHOWED VIEWERS A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE WE ARE. IT IS FAMILIAR, BUT ALSO UNPRECEDENTED. YOU SEE DONALD TRUMP TRYING TO LEAN IN TO ALL OF THIS AND DEGRADE THE IDEA THAT THERE IS ANYTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. WHAT IS ONE CONVICTED FELON. HERE IS TWO. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE POLITICAL STRATEGY AND HOW WILL IT WORK? >> TRUMP'S POLITICAL STRATEGY IS CLEAR. HIS MESSAGE THE CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN I AM STRONG. JOE BIDEN IS WEAK. HE IS USING HIS CRIMINALITY TO REINFORCE HIS MACHISMO. CRIMINALS HAVE A MACHO SWAGGER. >> SUGE KNIGHT IF YOU ARE TAKING NOMINATIONS. >> SURE. >> TRUMP IS USING THE CRIMINALITY TO REINFORCE HIS MACHO MESSAGE. HE IS USING IT TO REINFORCE THE MESSAGE THAT IS DEEPLY RACIAL AND WHY THE PROUD BOYS ARE TURNED ON BY THE VERDICT. HE IS SAYING LAW AND ORDER IS FOR MINORITIES AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LAW AND ORDER, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A STANDARD THAT SHOULDN'T APPLY TO US, TO ME, A RICH WHITE GUY. IT SHOULD APPLY TO POOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN. >> THAT DOUBLE STANDARD IS A TURN ON TO CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF MAGA AND TRUMP SPACE. >> I THINK YOU MAKE A FAIR POINT AND THEY SAY BLUE LIVES MATTER, BUT NOT WHEN THE BLUE LIVES WERE UPHOLDING THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER WHICH THEY TURNED VIOLENT. >> RIGHT. >> THAT GOES BACK TO JIM CROW AND EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT IS HOW SOMETHING, AS YOU KNOW WE REPORTED A LOT ON THE PROGRAM, THE HYPOCRISY OF AMERICAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO SPEAKER JOHNSON. I TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL AROUND HERE. WHEN HE SAYS HE IS A CONSTITUTIONALIST, YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO LAUGH OR CRY. WHAT CONSTITUTION? >> I WANT TO PLAY BRIEFLY THE WAY HE TALKS TO THE POINT YOU RAISED. TAKE A LOOK. >> LOOK. WE ARE THE RULE OF LAW TEAM. WE BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW. >> WE HAVE ROGUE PROSECUTORS THAT HAVE DRUG PRESIDENT TRUMP THROUGH THE PROCESS. THERE WILL BE A RECKONING ON NOVEMBER 5th. >> HE IS NOT FOR THE RULE OF LAW. TRUMP SAID THE REAL VERDICT COMES ON THE 5th. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY ON DEMOCRACY BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE LAST LOSS, AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE I AM SAYING THE OBVIOUS AROUND HERE, PART OF THE JOB IN THE NEWS, WE DON'T PUT JURY VERDICTS UP TO A VOTE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> NO, WE DON'T. SPEAKER JOHNSON BELIEVES HIS CHRISTIAN DOGMATIC PRINCIPLES SHOULD APPLY TO MILLIONS OF NON-BELIEVERS. MILLIONS OF WOMEN WHOSE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS SPEAKER JOHNSON IS PROUD TO DENY. AND PERHAPS THE GREATEST FAILURE OF DEMOCRATING MESSAGING. DONALD TRUMP BELIEVES THAT WOMEN ARE DISPOSABLE. HE BELIEVE PRESIDENCY WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE DISPOSABLE. HE WANTS THE GOVERNMENTS IN ALL OF OUR BEDROOMS. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN HIS BEDROOM. I'M SORRY, WHEN YOU ARE SELLING A BIBLE AND TALKING ABOUT NATIONAL ABORTION BANS, THE HUGH HEFNER LIFESTYLE IS NOT AN OPTION FOR YOU. DONALD TRUMP'S PERSONAL BEHAVIOR CONNECTS TO REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> YOU ARE CONNECTING IT BLUNTLY BUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID HAS GOT LEGAL SUPPORT. JUST IN SAM ALITO TALKING ABOUT HIS WIFE'S RIGHTS TO FIGHT WITH HER NEIGHBOR. SHE HAS THE RIGHT. HE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT OF ALL WOMEN IN THE U.S. TO MAKE THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE DECISIONS WITH THEIR OWN DOCTOR. THAT IS A CONSEQUENCE OF TRUMP. IT IS INTERESTING. YOU MADE THE POINT. AS FOR THE EXTREMISM, YOU HAVE, IN YOUR ADULT CAREER, ALWAYS WORKED AGAINST REPUBLICANS INCLUDING THE BUSH ERA. SO I KNOW THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH BUSH ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. I WANT TO PLAY WHERE HIM AND OBAMA WERE ON THE SAME PAGE TO UNDERSCORE HOW EXTREME IT IS TO HAVE NOT ONLY TRUMP, A FELON TRYING NOT TO GO TO JAIL AND OTHER REPUBLICANS BLUNTLY ATTACKING THE RULE OF LAW. >> I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE GENERALLY IN THE FBI. >> I THOUGHT THE JURY VERDICT SHOULD STAND. I FELT THE PUNISHMENT WAS SEVERE. >> WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO METTLE IN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND THAT HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE. I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN PROCEDURES THAT THE FBI FOLLOWS OR THE DOJ FOLLOWS. >> EVEN NIXON WOULD NOT ADMIT TO WHAT MIKE JOHNSON AND TRUMP DID TODAY. FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WHAT DO YOU AND THE DEMOCRATS DO ABOUT THAT WHEN PEOPLE TUNE IT OUT SAYING IT IS ALL OF THE USUAL BICKERING. >> IT IS NOT THE USUAL BICKERING. ONE THING THAT I BELIEVE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONNECT THESE SORTS OF EVENTS TO REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES. THERE ARE REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES. WITHOUT THE RULE OF LAW WHAT ARE WE AS A SOCIETY. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN DONALD TRUMP BECOMES DICTATOR. THINK OF THE KIND OF SOCIETY DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO CREATE, A SOCIETY WITH A DOUBLE STANDARD. IF YOU ARE POOR OR NON-WHITE YOU ARE SUBJECT TO CERTAIN LAWS AND RICH AND WHITE YOU ARE NOT. IF YOU ARE A WOMAN YOU ARE SUBJECTED TO A CERTAIN TYPE OF BELIEF AND INTRUSION INTO YOUR PRIVACY. IF YOU ARE A WHITE MALE YOU ARE NOT SUBJECTED TO THAT. THERE ARE REAL WORLD
