How French Health Care Compares To The US System

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Mostly accurate, but we do need to see a GP before going to a specialist (some exceptions apply, like going to the dentist). If you don't, it's considered “hors parcours” and you only get 30% of the cost paid instead of 70%.

👍︎︎ 45 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ May 19 2019 🗫︎ replies

Il y à des choses qui fonctionnent mal dans la sécu bien sur (lunettes, dentaire, appareil auditifs qui sont mal remboursés, homéopathie qui est remboursée ), mais j'ai l'impression qu'en France, on à tellement pris ça comme un acquis qu'on ne se rend pas compte que le système fonctionne pas si mal que ça.

C'est quand même rassurant de se dire que contrairement aux USA, si jamais un jour tu a le cancer du poumon, au moins tu devra pas vendre de la meth pour te soigner.

👍︎︎ 37 👤︎︎ u/Frog_eater 📅︎︎ May 19 2019 🗫︎ replies

"no waiting list for specialized treatment" hahaha... yeah. This one reaaally depends on where you live. For an optometrist or dentist you can expect anything from 2 weeks to 6 months of waiting list. Everything else is pretty accurate.

👍︎︎ 24 👤︎︎ u/flowers_and_cacti 📅︎︎ May 19 2019 🗫︎ replies
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Health care is becoming a big issue in the 2020 elections. The Democrats are pushing for a government funded model, while President Trump is campaigning on gutting Obamacare. We repeal the core of the disastrous Obamacare. The individual mandate is now gone. Medicare For All has become a mantra among left of center Democrats in the presidential race. Health care is a human right not a privilege. I strongly believe that we need to have Medicare for all. I am a strong supporter of Medicare for all. The candidates do have different interpretations of what Medicare for All actually looks like in America. Those differences aside, it's essentially a universal single payer system closely modeled after Canada's health care system. But there's another national health care system that gets a lot of attention: France Back in 2000, the World Health Organization ranked it as the best national health care system in the world. A lot has happened since then. But France's health care system remains a model for universal coverage. Here's why. Despite spending less on coverage, France has comparable or even better health care outcomes than the United States. The United States has a higher rate of infant mortality. In France nearly four children die out of every 1000 live births. In the U.S. that number is closer to six. France also has a higher average life expectancy than the United States by four years. And the rate of re-hospitalization in France is 5.3% lower than that of the United States. Lower rates of re-hospitalization in France are likely due to better access to primary care as well as longer average stays in the hospital. Since France gives every citizen coverage from birth, this system allows them to get more preventative treatments throughout their lifetimes, which save on costs and improve outcomes After World War Two French politicians were concerned the country's private health care system would not be able to handle coverage demands So the country established a model of national health insurance Meant to protect the population against increasing health care costs. The French call their system Social Security but it is not an example of socialized medicine. It's not government run, just government financed. It's very close to being a single payer health care system. This mandatory coverage doesn't come at the expense of freedom of choice in medical care. The system is set up to ensure that doctors are not restricted when making medical decisions. The system covers every doctor every lab every hospital every clinic. They're all covered and they all have to take the patients. That's T.R. Reid author of the book "The Healing of America." He traveled the world exploring different health care systems and how well they worked. America is the only place where we have what the insurance companies call narrow networks where they dictate which doctors you can go to. No other country does that in every other country. The patient picks the doctor and the system pays. That's also true for our Medicare system Medicare covers all doctors. So here's what happens in the United States. Let's say somebody, a clerk or such at 7-Eleven or a hotel maid has no insurance or very little insurance and she feels a vague pain on the right side of her abdomen. It would cost your 120 bucks to go to the doctor she's not going to do that. She's going to work through it. And three months later she's in the emergency room with a burst appendix that costs $60,000. And we'll treat here. We'll treat her. But if she could have gone to the doctor when she felt that first pain, the doctor could have treated the infection. It would have cost 100 bucks instead of $30,000. The way we do it by definition makes things much more expensive for the U.S. Covering everybody so that people get the care they need when it's still early and cheap is a much smarter and a much less expensive way to provide health care. France's social security reimburses around 70 to 80 percent of medical costs leaving the remaining amount for patients to pay out of pocket. France also has voluntary supplemental health insurance provided by private insurance companies. In France they want you to know that you're getting something of value from the health care system so they make you pay and then everybody in France gets about 80 percent of it back from the insurance company. France's social security also legally requires price transparency. And because the government funded system covers the entire population, it has more bargaining power to keep the prices low. Social Security also has no waiting lists for specialized hospital treatments. There's also no physician gatekeeping. French patients do not need their general practitioner to sign off so they can see a specialist. So how does France's system stack up against America's? The French health care system is considered one of the most expensive in the world and yet it's still half the cost of America's. In 2017 U.S. spending added up to $10,200 per capita. In France, it was only $4,900. Administrative costs are also much lower in France than in the United States. In France, they're limited to 5.5 percent of the bill. Whatever the bill is the administrative fee can't be more than 5.5 percent. In America are private insurance companies have administrative costs of 20 percent on every bill. And that's so important to our insurance industry that their lobbyists wrote that into Obamacare, that they're allowed to add 20 percent administrative costs. One of the ways the French keep their administrative costs lower is with the carte vitale, a health insurance card carried by every French citizen. When a person visits a doctor in France, they present their carte vitale so the doctor can look them up in the digital system. The card gives the doctor all the information they need to charge for the visit. French citizens can also opt to have all their medical records stored on a card for doctors to access and because the system is available all over the country, it saves time and money. Another way France manages rising health care costs is by having the government regulate them. Unlike the United States where legislatures are deadlocked on what to do about health care, the French parliament votes to set new health care budgets and guidelines every year. But France's health care system is not perfect. French citizens pay significantly more income tax than Americans. In order to cover government funded programs such as Social Security. Many French employers say high taxes do restrict them from hiring more people. But the United States lower tax bite is countered by the fact that Americans end up paying more in premiums and out-of-pocket expenses each time they require medical care. Additionally doctors in France make less money than those in the United States. French general practitioners make on average nearly $112,000 a year. In America a general practitioner can expect to make around $218,000. This gap in wages however does not factor in the cost of becoming a doctor in each country. American doctors must take on the cost of medical school while French doctors receive that education free. American doctors also must pay for malpractice insurance whereas such lawsuits are not a big issue in France. A common complaint in France is that certain areas do not have as much access to health care as others. However, France has more doctors per resident than the United States does. For every 1000 residents France has 3.4 doctors whereas the United States only has 2.6. Some French hospitals are also struggling with the rising costs to care for patients. So what can the United States learn from the French system? France's social security proves it's possible to cover every citizen without a government run system regulating choice and how doctors practice medicine. It also shows that universal health care coverage can co-exist with private insurance. Basically France has really done it right. As the World Health Organization said very good health outcomes, everybody's covered - all their citizens, all their elite workers, tourists. And half our costs, so I think they're doing a lot of things right.
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