Holly Gets Into Heated Debate With Mum of 12 Over Her £40,000 a Year Benefits | This Morning

you say you worked 16 hours yeah a week your as a cleaner but didn't you also tell us that that actually helps avoid the 26k benefits cap yeah it does hey so is that why you work yeah basically I've got no choice I have to work like 16 hours and to be honest I haven't got the time to work those 16 hours with 12 children but I have to do that to avoid the benefit cap do you think it's fair that you're in this situation now considering a 13th child I don't make up the rules at the end of the day and I'm not the government so I've not said oh you could have so much in benefits and obviously if that's what they're given me I'm gonna take it so if I am I can have another child and the government's allowing me to do that I'm going to do that it's I think the thing that also seems to get under a lot of people's skin is that the fact that you are unapologetic you what you don't got nothing to be sorry for what about what about the fact that you quite freely say you know the money doesn't all go to the children the 40 thousand pounds in benefit that you get a year that you you actually quite happy to buy yourself a mulberry handbag treats for yourself about cosmetic surgery so why keep having so many children I love babies I love children it's the most wonderful thing in the world to be able to do but to go for your 13th say you've said to us that you're addicted to having babies yeah I'm literally addicted to have babies how can you not put that energy into looking after the ones that you've got and that energy does go into yeah into that but I can't help feeling Brodie I can't help the way I feel I can't help one in another that's yes is there a limit to that number No so you say that you will have would like to have cosmetic surgery you told us that you've got the money to have cosmetic surgery yeah I could save up for cosmetic surgery which of obviously that that would come off with a and and and the people who are contributing to the sort of welfare state will be paying for your cosmetic surgery why why do why do you want to have a boob job because I just like a ridiculous size that's so obviously I'd like to have that and make myself lot better lots of women out there of boob jobs there's nothing wrong it's not to make you not not to help you with the guys no I don't care what men think I absolutely I just don't care I'm not interested in men at all because you said that which is why you are looking for a sperm donor yeah I would like a sperm donor no you don't want a man in your life you don't want anything from anybody you just want a jar literally a jar I might as well have had a jar for all 12 to be honest because none of the none of them pay for that for the kids anyway so that might as well have been the case well they leave me a man that way of their paying tax and we're all paying in it in a way no I'm talking about the fathers I might as well I've got that all in a jar to begin with because they don't pay for their children anyway is that there's the accusation been laid at you that this whole sperm donor thing is just a press stunt no I want another baby but I really don't want another man in my life so I've joined this group and I have been speaking to people and I've had offers as well and there's no money being exchanged Dyer is there I mean you this is somebody would be giving you their sperm for free for you to do this and then they would have no commitment to that channel I wouldn't want them to as well like that would be my baby and how do you see that baby is that that baby another another child or another income source that's that have been my baby but me as an you would have say no to the extra benefits that come with that obviously not if if the government's gonna give me those extra benefits and I'm gonna take him seduce you you agree though you must agree that there is a problem with the way that it works I can see why people get annoyed I can see why people that go go work 40 50 hours a week do get a noise but I don't make the rules up so but I mean there are lots of things that we could do there are lots of things that we could take advantage of but but it doesn't necessarily say that you have to mmm well I - and um I'm not gonna be sorry about that you feel guilty cuz I mean I I would really struggle to sleep at night if I thought I was taking all this money and then some day at the end of the road who had disability allowance that was being cut and therefore you know or they might have a young Harrod that looks after them who's a child who's 14 that hasn't got them that hasn't got the money in the family that then can't go on and do education is missing out on their life I know I know you're not silly you know that's the reality so how can you sleep at night no you know how important your kids aren't you that person with a young carer that their child is equally as important to them but they haven't got that money because where is it going into your pocket it's not just all going into my put it though let's be honest adds up it all adds up you put all those people together do you think about that Lily not really no I think about me you think about it normally and lazy not really because I'm not the one that makes up the rules and I see as there's 12 future taxpayers and my kids will do well you say that you're hounded by by the press yeah in what way and we went on holiday terminal car a few years ago and the press turned up and was taking pictures of me and my children are usual out mission yeah really because it was a family holiday like why shouldn't I take my kids on holiday aren't you playing the press you can take you can't have one thing you can't you can't sit here discuss it I don't know whether we're paying you today but but you can't sit here are we paying here today so we'll fight yes we are so we're paying you for this and and then you grumble about the press on the other hand it doesn't really work like that yeah because that's that's my children's holiday that was the first time they've been on holiday so to us and to them it's not their fault at the end of the day and that was special to them and to be followed like that and have their picture taken I just think that was out of order the end of the day like you can also like me but it's not my children's fault and they deserve that holiday why shouldn't they because there's loads of them if I one or two and I took in terminal car that would have been icon if you had one or two then you would unlikely have had the press on your tail but let's be honest like everybody that slate in me most working families are getting child tax credits and working tax credits and that is all I'm getting and child benefit I'm not claiming income support I'm going to work and I'm doing these 16 hours a week and I'm my best but you have admitted that you're doing the sixteen hours a week so that you avoid the captain yeah for more of the same and just click here and don't forget you can subscribe to even more of these amazing videos exclusive to our channel probably having to put my leg on every day are i waking up and having to scriptures just to go to bathroom i into kitchen i think thats let's pull it what i find out is

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Length: 7min 1sec (421 seconds)

Published: Tue Jun 07 2016

Reddit Comments

[u/Mathematic21]

This is like talking with a parasite attached to you.

The parasite just wants blood and when you question it, it just says "well there's blood there and blood is what I need".

[u/animalcub]

I side with the mum. She's broken no laws. The government encourages people to do nothing and discourages business. This us what you get.