Helldivers 2 Is CPU Heavy? Ryzen 5900X VS 7800X 3D - 4K - 1440P - 1080P

hello and welcome back to another video where today's Focus will be on CPU utilization in Hell divers 2 main reason why I wanted to do this is because this game does appear to be a bit CPU demanding and I also wanted to compare my ryzen 5900 X versus my ryzen 7800 x3d paired with an RTX 490 we're going to check out 4K 1440p 1080p different render scales and that sort of thing so let's not waste any time and he'll dive straight into it we're going to begin with 4K native on fenr which is like a iy planet with it's a bug Planet essentially and I played this by myself the second half of the video will focus on multiplayer and group full of people a lot of stuff going on in a Mech Planet that's more demanding than this there's more stuff going on that would be heavier on the CPU but this I wanted to make because I wanted to keep things as close to one another as possible because in this game when you're playing with a group of people it's hard to really capture footage that's identical or as close to it as possible so that's kind of why I wanted the first half to focus on 4K 1440p and 1080p and this one here is at 4K with maxed out settings and as you can see the differences are not really big there are differences but they're not really all that noticeable so at 4K even with an RTX 4090 with maxed out Graphics the performance is pretty close as a matter of fact if we were to compare the metrics for 4K between the two CPUs the averages on the 7800 x3d are around 6% faster and 1% lows 9% faster so nothing Hur shattering you might not even notice the difference uh I can't really say that I did but it is it is there I mean 10% is not is not bad you know for frame time consistency but you also got to keep in mind that there is some Vari ability in this game and I will show that to you later on when we're in the group but for now trying to match the footage and the mission as close as possible these are the differences at 4K not not not that crazy let's check out 1440p we're going to begin by showing the settings like always and we're running the game at 1440p just drop the resolution from 4K we're still keeping the ultra graphical settings as well now right away you can tell that there is a a very noticeable difference at 1440p and again just keep in mind that this is a somewhat of a quieter Planet I guess you could say it's not as crazy as some of the other ones although it is very representative of bug planets that I've played the mech planets tend to be the ones that are the craziest which we're going to take a look at later but if we were to compare the numbers at the end of the recording and the mission playing on both CPUs at 1440p we have a pretty big difference the 7800 x3d is 21% faster on the averages than the 5900 X and 31% faster on the 1% lows those are big numbers big gains the game definitely feels a lot smoother on the 7800 x3d obviously the 1% lows in my opinion are the most important metric and we can now see the 490 is able to stretch its legs and the 7800 XD also has the ability to stretch its legs you can look at the GPU utilization on the 5900 X and you can see that it's well below 90% as a matter of fact it's hovering around 70s and 80s so the 5900 X is CPU bound here definitely based off the many reviews that have been done we know that the 7800 x3d is around 30% faster than the the 5900 X in gaming but you also need the GPU to to be able to to get that out of the CPU too right depends on the game and resolution anyway let's check out 1080p we'll Begin by going through the settings like always and as you can see here we've dropped now to 1080p with ultra on high settings and I know some people are going to say well who plays with a 4090 at 1080p you might actually be surprised there's uh there are people who play use a 490 at 1080p I've spoken to a few of them Reddit actually it's just people that love to play at high refresh rates mostly Esports players but also people that like to play Shooters there's nothing wrong with that I mean I play at 1440 Ultra wide and that that's fine but if we get back on topic because I can get way off topic very easily uh we can see now that both CPUs are not able to keep up with a 490 at 1080p the 490 is CPU bound on both sides and you can see this actually we have a lot higher FPS on the 700 x3d side so we have the 490 going up the 80ish per of GPU utilization whereas on the 5900 X we're in the 50s and 60s of perc utilization but anyway what are the differences now have things changed a lot since 1440p well if we were to take a look at the numbers the 490 with the 7800 x3d is 30% faster than the 59 X on the averages and 43% faster on the 1% lows we literally went up an extra 10% on both averages and 1% lows by dropping to 1080p so yeah pretty big difference here even bigger difference but I this is mostly single player no teammates here and this planet is not as demanding as another planet that we're going to take a look at now and this will be te team focused gameplay and I'll also show you that the results can also vary depending on what's going on and now we're going to make our way to malevolent Creek where I literally had to go through hell to capture some of this footage because some of the missions the people there was some people that were just doing their own thing and we kept dying it was fun though the chaos was IM measurable uh this planet is crazy there's a lot of enemies here uh and it's not just like bugs that's swarm you these enemies will shoot at you they'll throw grenades and do all kinds of stuff rush you uh but it's a lot of fun but it's also the most demanding planet and this is all multiplayer gameplay okay we're going to begin with the settings here and we're going to start with 4K native maxed out settings and then we're going to move our way to the Quality render scale and also balance render scale now immediately if you play close attention you can tell that the Gap is a little bit wider now than the first 4K native we looked at at the very beginning of the video god the guy is screaming if if you're shooting a machine gun and you don't let go of the trigger your character will yell out something it's hilarious this game cracks me up still there always new little things I find it's hilarious but if we take a look at the numbers now we can see that the 7800 x3d in this planet with multiplayer is 15% faster on the averages and 133% faster on the 1% lows so the Gap is actually bigger than the first 4K footage we took a look at earlier on the bug ice planet and it kind of makes sense there's a lot more going on here group gameplay even on my 380 TI video I showed that this planet was a bit more demanding but we were using the same CPU there and here you can actually see the GPU utilization on the 5900 x side it'll actually drop a little bit uh below the mid90s and that's another thing that I've noticed with this game even when I know I'm not CPU bound it never goes to 99% even with my 6800 uh my 6800 X that I did a video on I was playing this game at 1440p with the 5900 X it never went to 99 so I'm not sure why that is maybe it's an engine thing so that doesn't really tell the whole story but we can if you pay close attention to the GP utilization on the 5900 X it does drop to the 80s sometimes so we are definitely hitting some CPU bottlenecks uh uh here for the 490 on the 5900 X on the 7800 x3d I would like to say that we are good because once we drop to the Quality render scale you will see that that gap between the two CPUs will get even wider as you would expect it to be right but any anyway let's take a look at the Quality render scale and then I'm also going to show you that again why it's not Apples to Apples because even though I'm in the same area with a team of people and I'm doing the same type of mission the locations are randomly generated and so are the enemies and the amount of enemies you engage with and all that sort of thing can actually affect things you know if you kill a lot of the enemies from distance or do they come up close and there's a lot of explosions all that stuff actually affect the performance and I'm actually going to show you a very good example that I've put aside after we look at the Quality render scale I will show you how that can happen so that's why these comparisons are mostly done out of curiosity it's not like a maybe it's a bit academic I guess just to see the performance but it's not like a you know 100% accurate I would say uh I wouldn't consider it 100% accurate unless I could match the footage and it's exactly the same area fight the same enemies you know that's something you can do in single player games not really on multiplayer games unfortunately but yeah if we were to go ahead and Compare the numbers though now the 7800 x3d is 24% faster on the averages and 28% faster on the 1% lows over the 5900 X so that Gap has widened quite a bit more as you know we expected it would we've essentially gone up another 10% faster for the 7800 x3d by going from 4K native to 4K quality render scale which I believe that is 1440p again I I genuinely think that what they're using here for render scale is fsr1 uh I mean the quality settings match it with you know with the ultra quality setting but also looking at the visuals I just see quite a bit more degradation in uh aliasing uh with the render scale enabled then I would I wouldn't I would expect FSR 2 to be a little bit better on the aliasing part of it that's that's kind of what leads me to believe that it could be fsr1 but anyway so remember this average 24% faster and 1% low 28% faster now why don't we take a look at my ultra quality recording that I did and you will see how much bigger the difference is which can only result because the differences in the game play and what was going on was so vast that you know the results kind of don't make much sense because here we're at quality setting now we're going to ultra quality so the Gap should actually be narrower not bigger but what is it like let's take a look at it so we're going to hop over to the ultra quality test that I did and essentially the game play the mission that I played on the 5900 X was a way more chaotic than the one I played on the 7800 x3d for this and as a result if I was to Compare the numbers we have the 7800 x3d side being 39% faster on the averages and 41% faster on the 1% lows which kind of doesn't make sense if you think about it although what has me what has my curiosity Peak is that I wonder how the 7800 x3d would do if it was that exact game play right but there's no way to replicate that right but I just want you guys to know this that don't take some of these benchmarks as like the B all and endall they kind of tell a story but that's story can also change depending on you know the type of gameplay because the nature of the game matters unless it's like a said Benchmark that's been designed by the developer that you can run it exactly the same the the results can can skew one way or the other it depends it's nothing intentional it's just the nature of the game and that's kind of the results you can end up with sometimes so when I watch this I was going to cut the ultra quality out completely because I felt it wasn't fair or rep representative really because the two missions were so different but then I figured I might as well show it and kind of give some context why uh the numbers would be so different because if I had not and I just put it in it wouldn't make sense how is ultra quality the difference even wider than uh than this much wider than quality right it would make sense but anyway let's check out the last part and that is 4K balance render scale which I think it's has to be 1080p uh rendering let's begin with the settings again and we've dropped render scale to balance which in my opinion I think it's 1080P and yeah we're getting a ton of FPS here and if you look the 7800 XD the 490 is CPU bound we're well below 90% GPU utilization and on the 5900 X we'll we're dropping to the 70s and 60s so both gpus both sides are CPU bound I mean to say what are the differences though well if we look the 7800 x3d is 41% faster on the averages and 28% faster on the 1% lows now the 1% lows are a bit lower than uh I thought they would be normally the averages 1% lows are somewhat close in this game so I don't know what happened there um I don't know maybe maybe I didn't record it properly it could be I'm not sure but I mean we have the 1080p results to see that you know the gap between these two is is I mean you're you're you're at that 30 to 40% right like I mentioned previously we know through reviews that the 7800 xrd is around 30% faster in gaming than a 5900 X or ryzen 5000 non-x 3D CPUs so that that's kind of reflective here now does the CPU really matter I think it does like for me it would because you know I I I'm most the game on my 490 and on my ultra wide display you would notice that faster CPU and I think I guess even at 4K you would a little bit right if you played a mission like this which some missions are chaotic and uh the developers have said that they're going to add vehicles and mechs into the game uh later on which is very exciting I'm I'm really loving this game but I also did want to take a dive and check out the CPUs and see what the differences are because this is a uh I think they're using Stingray engine which is not an engine I'm familiar with but I kind of wanted to sort of document it and see and I also find the performance in the game to be very impressive uh the 1% lows are very very good frame times are really really good here and there is no Shader compilation step that happens uh before the game which is kind of interesting but anyway I think that'll be it for this video guys if you did enjoy it uh give it a like and uh subscribe for more content and leave your comments below let me know what you think if you have any suggestions and I appreciate you watching thanks bye

Channel: Terra Nigma

Views: 31,370

Keywords: hd2, ryzen, 5900x, 7800x3d, rtx, 4090

Id: faRuW1l90no

Length: 16min 30sec (990 seconds)

Published: Wed Feb 14 2024