Head-to-Head: 45 ACP vs 10mm For Self Defense

all right this is feeling really good I love the 1911 that's no secret it's got a smaller Slimmer grip than some of the more modern pistols I like it better my hands aren't all that dog on big so it's a nice thing for me to grab and I think that having 40 plus years of experience with it is also kind of contributing to why I like it so much time for some more ammo 10 mm Glock 155 grain High Velocity loads from the 10 mm this is uh this is a pretty potent combo it'll definitely wake you up I don't shoot a Glock all that often but I like them grips grip's pretty big I got to get used to that every time and the wrist angle's a little different it's a it's a good shooting gun it's reliable gun the magazine capacity on this is double what I have with my 45 ACP so there's a lot of good reasons to like something like this and the ballistics results that we got with this load and this 155 grain xtp were pretty dog on impressive we'll take a look at those later hey eventually even the Glock runs out of ammo guy Miner here from Ultimate reload.com today we're going to be getting into the 45 versus the 10 mm for self-defense pretty cool stuff in this video we're going to be talking a little bit about the history of handguns for self-defense we're going be talking a little bit about uh the specs and the ballistics and the common loads available for both the 10 and the 45 we're going to get into our hand loading for them and how we did on that my shooting Impressions from shooting all three of these guns in two different cartridges and total of four different loads and we're going to talk about our cost calculators seeing how much money we could save by hand loading and then we're also going to talk about our results we got some interesting chronograph results I want to go over that along with my shooting Impressions and we'll get to some good conclusions handguns for self-defense Is Not A New Concept whatsoever found out that China has a gun from 1288 that's the earliest known gun so that goes back a couple of years my oldest guns are this pair of Colts one being a uh percussion model CT way back uh that's probably from the late 40s or early 50s 1840s and 1850s and of course it's a percussion cap black powder only kind of a thing that was later superseded by The Single Action Army CT this being a bizly version of the old Single Action Army Colt and that is one heck of a gun and it was used by lawmen it was used by the military and it was used by civilians ranchers frontiersmen all kinds of people so moved on from that everything has its period its time and things have moved on from that and evolved into double action revolvers and semi-autos since then when you're choosing a handgun for self-defense there are several considerations and the first thing to think about is how serious what is that you're contemplating having a gun is not enough you have to know how when and why to use it or not use it there are many many times you just just bad advice to go use a gun for all kinds of situations so you have to get your training I cannot stress that enough that is one of the very first considerations you should make is you need to learn from somebody competent a good Firearms instructor there are many good Firearms instructor out there and their services are not necessarily cheap but it's one of those things where you kind of get what you pay for and you got to look for somebody who's an actual certified firearms instructure it it it will help tremendously you'll learn the good things you also want to know about the size of the handgun is concealment important to you if you're going to be wearing this thing on a fairly regular basis it's much easier to conceal a smaller lighter handgun okay and they're out there some of those are very difficult to shoot well that's one of the compromises because they're so small and so light you can't get a good grip and they kick a lot because they don't wa way much uh Power versus The Recoil is also another thing especially a lot of young guys want to go get a very powerful handgun they got to have a 10 mm or they got to have a 45 or they got to have a 44 magnum whatever okay well do you really or is it just fun okay it is fun but learning how to shoot one well requires a lot more practice than a lighter recoiling pistol so another question is semi Auto or some version of a revolver both have their advantages study hard before you put your money down and buy something uh in my time as a Firearms instructor when I was Firearms instructor for over 20 years I saw people show up with some very inappropriate handguns people who could not handle their handguns if they didn't have the arm strength didn't have the hand strength they couldn't work the slide on their semi-auto if they didn't have the finger strength they had trouble pulling the trigger on a double action revolver so get a gun you can handle and that you will practice a lot with because frankly it takes a lot of practice to become a good handgunner let's get into the 45 ACP one of my absolute favorite cartridges and I have to admit there's a lot of uh Nostalgia involved in that for me uh when I got into the Marine Corps it wasn't long after that that they handed me a beat up old 1940s 1911 and I had never ever shot a 451 1911 before i' shot revolvers and I'd shot a couple of 22 automatics semi-automatics but i' never handled a 1911 pistol before so you get a brief class on it and then they say go forth and qualify with this thing okay then sure enough where did the 45 come from 1911 owners like to say that well Moses gave it to us so fair enough John Moses Browning developed both the cartridge and the pistol and both of you evolved since then now his first version of it is was came out in 1904 1905 and it had a 200 grain bullet at about 900 feet per second was aect it was inspired by the successful performance of the CT 45 revolver different cartridge big single action revolver some double actions have been made as well a lot of them and it had inspired American frontiersmen Farmers ranchers law enforcement guys bad guys and the military had all used that 45 Colt with a lot of success taking down large animals taking down their opposition their bad guys um it was really a very good Benchmark in handgun performance what worked well for a lot of different people for reasons I do not understand at all the Army went to they got away from their big 45 Colt and they went to a third 38 long CT revolver this is not a powerful cartridge whatsoever there's a reason that almost nobody has one anymore so yeah they go to the 38 long CT revolver what do you know we find ourselves in the Philippines and we're fighting Insurrection over there uh having a lot of trouble our guys are not able to put down the opposition even with multiple shots and it's seen as an utter failure in combat situations so the Army thought back and said 45 worked for a long time a lot of places and so they developed 40 they said please give us a semi-automatic that gets close to or similar ballistics to the Old 45 Colt that's what the inspiration for the 45 semi-auto is completely different cartridge and went from originally 200 grain bullet at about 900 ft per second military insisted on a heavier bullet 2 130 grains and of course that slowed it down to around 820 830 ft per second um and it established a very very successful track record with the military used in World War I World War II Vietnam some units were still using the 45 automatic as late as the uh 1990s and I think even beyond that I'm getting a little out of touch with my particular association with the military it's been a few years so I'm not sure if anybody's left using the 45 these days but I wouldn't be surprised there's somebody out there hanging on to it it just works big bullets moving slow the 45 operates at a fairly low pressure the standard 45 cartridge is limited to a maximum average pressure map you'll see that written down in places of 21,000 PSI there's a couple of companies out there they're making 45 plus P which has a about 100 foot per second gain over the original 230 grain ball ammo and it can U it can run into mid 900s low and mid 900s feet per second it's only a couple of thousand PSI more two to 3,000 it's rated at 23,000 PSI today's Factory ammo that's available for the 45 ranges from the mild target loads at about 780 fet per second up to some pretty brisk 185 grain self-defense loads that are supposed to be doing about 1170 ft per second that figure might wake up a lot of people who think the 45 is always a big slow cartridge nope you give it plus p and a fairly light bullet and you've got a much higher velocity piece of gear let's take a look at the 10 so the 10 hasn't been around nearly as long it was uh introduced in the 1980s I remember reading with interest about it in the 1980s when it came out company called Doris and Dixon came out with the Bren 10 and it's often called the ill- fated Bren 10 it was not that it was a bad pistol people couldn't get magazines uh in fact as I understand it the Brent tens were even shipping without magazines that doesn't make for a very good business model and um they're gone so other people took a look at the cartridge though Norma was making the ammo and it was hot 200 grain bullet at 12200 ft per second that is some serious ious stuff and Colt said you know we can take our 1911 and we can chamber it for that new 10 mm and they did called Delta Elite quite a gun Smith and Wesson came along with their version of it lots of other companies came along with a 10 millimeter and it enjoyed a brief success brief success in the late 8s after the disastrous 1986 FBI shootout in Miami in which two agents were killed several others wounded and it was just a a bloody mess um and a lot of that was attributed to using the 9mm which they didn't think was powerful enough to have solved the situation there's a lot of other reasons that contributed to why that was such a disaster and I'm not sure that the nine deserves very much blame at all however the FBI said we need a more powerful gun instead of just reaching back and getting a 45 ACP which I thought was a decent option they said no we want the 10 and so they went with a 10 mm Smith and Wesson came up with a wonderful gun for him and it marched on and became a very brief lived episode in American law enforcement where the 10 was popular why brief recoil it was difficult to train your average cop to shoot the semi-auto 10 mm well took a lot of training time lot of expensive am ammunition and in fact so much so that the FBI went to the Amo manufacturer said hey can you water this thing down a bit and they took it down to about 1,000 ft per second with a 180 of course the ano manufacturers said we can do that we can do that in a smaller shorter case and that's where the 40 comes from 40 Smith and Wesson which is a subject of another video coming up but so the 10 has been in law enforcement for very few years there's some agencies kept them on for a long time you know it's why retire a good gun but it's a difficult cartridge for the average cop to handle um and so it just sort of went out of style this thing is loaded to a maximum average pressure of 375 imagine that against 21,000 for the 45 ACP they operated two very different pressure Levels Close to double what the 45 ACP is at so that's something to consider and that's another reason why it is such an intense cartridge Colonel Jeff Cooper you may have heard of him he was an early fan of the 10 millimeter he liked it he was a big advocate for it it performed really well he liked the power he liked that it was fairly compact I mean it's no longer than a 45 ACP so it fits in the same size of gun frame and I think he's a big reason why it became popular among a lot of handgunners because he wrote some very good things about it had some good experiences in past that on to us in recent years the 10 has had a Resurgence in popularity as a bare defense gun defense against large aggressive Wildlife it's seen by many people as an reasonable alternative to a big Magnum revolver possibly we actually did a video on that a couple years ago let's take a look at these head-to-head 45 versus the 10 45 has that velocity range of about 780 to 1170 the 10 is up much higher at 1150 to about, 1410 and there's some loads that are much faster talked about the pressure level already being almost twice in that 10 mm over the 45s pretty low pressure round uh 45 has big diameter 0451 in and the 10 is right there at 40 caliber so the 45 has a bigger diameter that's interesting that was a pretty old school thought but it worked for a long time and the U energy on them well we'll take a look at that more detail but the 45 gets kind of shut down by the 10 in the energy Department Factory ballistics our Factory ballistics here I chose to use a light and a heavy bullet weight for each of these two cartridges and the 10 mm I went with a 155 and the 200 there is a very popular 180 but I said well if we're going to get a big heavy bullt let's just go with a 200 and so that's what we loaded 155 and 200 and for the 45 ACP we loaded the 185 which is pretty popular and the traditional 230 grain load did both of those worth noting worth noting here and taking a look at are the energy figures the velocity figures are interesting but the energy figures are very telling they tell you the story there that the 10 makes a lot more power than the 45 look at that 684 foot- pounds of energy at the muzzle and that shows in quite a quite a difference with the 45 ACP especially there's a rather mild 185 grain load in there very popular because it doesn't recoil much it's still an effective 45 self-defense load it has only 970 ft per second developing about 386 foot pounds of energy so we've got 600s for the 10 and we've got 300s and 400s for the 45 if we punch it out there 50 yards and take a look at what that is that's a long shot with a handgun at a self-defense situation by the way we've got 500 and some odd foot pounds for the 10 and we're down into the threes and fours for the 45 the farther the distance the more Advantage the 10 seems to have I took a look these are just selected pretty randomly I took a look at all the major manufacturers to see what they offered in the way of self-defense loads for these two cartridges and I was impressed I expected the 45 to have a lot I carried a 451 1911 through my whole law enforcement career and I was really impressed I knew there was a lot of stuff out there for it from 185 grain loads 200 grain load loads 230 grain loads now there's 220s and there's a lot of other choices out there it's been around for over a 100 years about 120 years now that the uh 45 has been available and so there's been a lot of research done and a lot of different loads have been come up with and that's good gives you a broad choice of things the 10 mm really surprised me it's only been around since the 80s and it's been kind of popular for a while not very popular for a while seems to be on the again seems to be a lot more people carrying tens and there's there's a good there's a good selection of the U of ammo for it from the factory 155 180 200 gra 175s uh it seems like everybody every major manufacturer makes at least one or two if not more versions of self-defense loads for the 10 mm I was impressed ammo expense these big handguns eat expensive ammo and the training stuff the full metal jacket and all is a pretty dog on good bargain but if you're going to be shooting the self-defense loads from the factory premium type ammo and it doesn't really matter which one it's from which manufacturer it's from they're expensive I was taking a look at that and I was seeing with the 10 about a little over a buck up to about a buck and a quarter per round and with the 45 a little bit more about A110 up to about a130 per round and that's that's problematic for your shooting right because that's like that that explains why they sell the self-defense stuff in these little boxes of 20 because it hurts to buy 40 or 50 of them but 20 of them yeah okay I can do that I can buy that not a problem this is not the that kind of factory ammo is not real appealing for people to go shoot a lot of go shoot 300 of a day uh no not not that not with that expensive ammo so how can we beat that well we can buy bulk of course bulk B Metal Jacket training ammo or we're hand loaders here and we can handload our own ammo that is a huge cost saving I figured out that both of these cost very similar for me to handload around 75 cents a load using brand new brass and figuring the cost of the brass in there if I take out the brass then I'm only looking around 50 cents a load the big expense on these is these expensive self-defense oriented hollow point bullets they are not cheap um on the other hand we're talking about self-defense you're think about protecting your life and the lives of others you really ought to have good ammo it's well worth noting that the use of handloads for self-defense is very controversial there's a whole group of people that are convinced that if you use hand loads in your self-defense and God forbid you have to shoot somebody that the legal ramifications are going to be much worse for you than if you used Factory loads that's a consideration whether that's actually true or not has been debated back and forth back and forth and I don't know the answer uh I do know that I tend to carry Factory ammunition for my own self-defense purposes did that as a cop all the way through and I still do so not that you can't make very good self-defense oriented handloads but it is controversial and I urge you to do your research and make up your mind on that don't just walk blindly into it and then realize oops I made a mistake so let's take a look at our loads what we came up with here at ultimate reloader and in the 10 mm I mentioned we came up with both 155 and the 200 grain ammunition for it and I used a powder that I've used before only in 44 magnum and 500 Smith and Wesson and I may have used it in some 357 Magnum loads I know I used it in the 44 and the 500 with very good results and I was surprised when I took a look at my hoden data and said oh this is uh highly recommended and hoden of course distributes both accurate and our um our ramshot powders now so that makes a really broad selection of powders available from hoden which is nice so I took a look at that accurate number nine and I worked my way up and had some max level loads here for the 200 grain and the 155 I would not advise going over these loads and they are stout and I found them both available um on the hodgman's on online Reloading Data Center very good site very easy to use they had both a they have the 10 mm they have the 45 and they have the 45 plus P somebody may be wondering why there's not a 10 mm plus P it's already plus P all right plus P just means more power higher pressure and the 10 already operates at very high pressure so it doesn't need any more the 45 it could use a little boost and so it it got that and that I didn't find that data in the annual manual the printed manual here but I did find it in their online that 45 plus P anyway the uh number nine is a very fine grain powder it flows very very nicely through a manual powder measure just pouring them on out very little variation from shot to shot nice figures that we got and we'll get into that and just a just a really good powder with high performance and tight tight tight numbers for the 45 I had never used ramshot silhouette before I normally stick with some other powders uh oftentimes a faster burning powder so I tried the silhouette and I found out that it too meters really well so both these powders go through a powder measure so nicely and that means they'd be handy to use in some sort of a progressive press I was using it on the good old turet press no problem but if you're loading off a progressive because you're going to be making lot of ammo well you know what both of those powders would work out really well ramshot silhouette and the acurate number nine uh used good old CCI large large pistol primers for all of them primed on a Frankfurt Arsenal tool that's become a favorite of mine I don't seem to use much else anymore but it's a good one and and I just can't uh I don't know very very happy with these it's not that I can't say enough about them I can but they are good solid powder choices for for these two cartridges let's talk about the pistols having any trouble telling these two apart these two Glocks apart me too when I was shooting them both at the range I was very careful to keep them separate this one's a 45 Glock model 21 this one's a 10 mm Glock model 20 externally they're virtually identical they both have 4.6 in barrels they both weigh right around 30 ounces one's at 30 one's at 29 and that's unloaded with the magazines in them uh believe me they pick up some weight when you fill up those magazines the Glock 20 can hold 15 rounds in that magazine it may be difficult to get that last one or two in there the Glocks are Glocks are notorious for that but 15 rounds and plus one if you keep One in the Chamber which I do so you got 16 rounds on tap in that gun and they're powerful rounds no wonder it's such an attractive package for a lot of outdoorsmen a lot of uh Cowboy types A lot of guides a lot of fly fishermen people who go places to hike to Camp to fish to hunt a lot of times they'll choose a Glock 20 and 10 mm for their gun because it has the adequate power and yet you've got a lot of rounds of ammo which is which is really good having more ammo is better than having less ammo the Glock 21 that was one of the one of the guns that my department and many other police dep departments have issued over the years the only complaint I've ever heard about the Glock 21 is that the grip is big and that is on the 20 and the 21 well if you can hold that you're good and I've seen people with pretty small hands adapt to using the glac 21 and firing it well uh I've got kind of mediumsized hands myself I don't have any problem with it I prefer the Slimmer grip of the 1911 but that could be mostly because I've had a lot more experience with 1911 started in on it over 40 years ago so yeah um now take a look at the Kimber Kimber 1911 and it weighs a little bit more comes in at 39 ounces it's got a 5 in Barrel instead of a 4.6 in barrel and it holds eight rounds in the magazine I remember being excited when the eight rounders came out instead of just seven and I was like wa I get a whole another bullet and I was really happy about that and then the big Glocks came out and I said wow 13 Rounds in that model 21 and 15 rounds in model 20 dang that's that's an advantage it's no wonder to me that a lot of people choose the lighter weight pretty much weatherproof high capacity Glocks they are an excellent choice for an Outdoorsman or for self-defense coronograph results we took these out and we shot them past our chronograph and we got some interesting numbers the uh first one up that I shot was the 155 grain from the 10 mm and I just thought okay it's the lightest bullet that I've got in this whole test I'll start there and it also had U the most ferocious recoil and the highest velocity which The Recoil thing surprised me a little bit but the velocity did not almost 1350 ft per second and if you take a look here at our SD and Es figures you'll see some really tight numbers that is a complement to the powder how well that powder works with the 10 mm SD numbers of 15 for the light bullet load and eight for the 200 grain load 8 feet per second wow that's like what we get out of some of our match rifles and in this case we're doing it with a Glock pistol I was indeed impressed take a look at the uh 45 ACP our SD and Es numbers are a little bit bigger um they're more in line what I expected and I will note that the Kimber for whatever reason showed us a very tight SD of 12 um I don't know maybe uh who knows what the reason for that is it's a it's a good gun there's no doubt about it um and just a just a smidge higher velocity out of the Kimber as opposed to the 4.6 in block 21 4.6 in versus 5 in okay just going to get a little bit of velocity increase especially with the big 230 G bullets they just don't pick up a lot from that extra 4/10 of an inch our energy figures are also very very interesting 626 foot- pounds of energy at the muzzle for the 10 mm block wow that's that 155 gra bullet and that means you're hitting your target hard and that energy sustains downrange a bit with this too it's a very effective gun out to 50 yards no problem and probably well beyond that 200 Grainer doesn't develop quite as much energy um that's okay 568 is a very very respectable figure and it's got the mass of that big 200 grain bullet going for it too uh the 185 and 230 grain loads from our from our Glock came in there at 502 and then 400 40 uh for the energy figures and just barely a tiny bit higher with the 5 in you're not going to see a lot of difference between a 4.6 and a 5 inch barrel when it comes to Velocity and energy I put the power factor in there because people were as have asked me before about major and minor power factors that's a thing used in competition for the most part and they try to keep those separate so if your gun kicks a lot you don't have to compete against the guys who have something that doesn't kick much and that's a really good way these are all pretty tight we're looking at low 200s for all of them uh with the king of that probably being the uh 200 grain 10 mm that's got a pretty good figure there at 226 and that's a big Power figure and yeah you you pay for it with the recoil there's no doubt about it but that's all comfortably in the major power class which as I recall starts at 165 things below 165 are minor above 165 are major I might be off just a little bit on that got done with our shooting at the range that was fun um I really like shooting period I like shooting self-defense type scenarios and drills and I like shooting big powerful handguns always have it's just plain fun it's also very very productive if you're going to have a gun for self-defense you got to be good with it I am nowhere near as fast as I used to be when I was both younger and training more and honestly I think that training more has more to do with that than getting older um I don't train as much and it showed while I'm doing those drills but these are undeniably the Heavy Hitters of the self-defense gun world there's no doubt about the 10 mimet especially and the 45 has that long long history going back as a man stopper there is a recoil penalty to be paid particularly with the T and particularly with these Max loads that we put through it it's going to go ahead and beat you up a little bit it's also a gun that requires more more practice refine your Technique get your grip strength down get your recovery time your follow-up stuff much much better is going to be it's going to be tougher to do all those things well but you can do it it just takes more effort uh my impression between the Glock and the 1911 in 45 was that the 230 grain loads had more controllable recoil than my very very warm 185 grain loads uh more controllable recoil the Glock tended to spread out the impact in my palm of my hand it's got a much wider grip than the 1911 the 1911 kind of focused it in there on the other hand I could get a better grip with a Slimmer grip single stack magazine on the 1911 and also many many years of shooting 1911s it just feels like part of me when I go ahead and draw that gun and point it in it's it's very natural to me anymore so that's probably my own personal bias on that but yeah both of them were quite controllable not a problem let's talk about some pros and cons head-to-head results here between these two 10 mm obviously more powerful and outperforms the old 45 no doubt about it much as I love the 45 the 10 is definitely more powerful higher velocity and more pressure and it just rocks I like that thing it is proven to be more suitable for defense against large and dangerous wildlife some of the videos coming out of Alaska and some of the people I've talked to and the success that they've had with their Glocks on grizzly bear Alaskan brown bear those things are very very big I only hunted them with a rifle and uh yeah and I want a big powerful rifle so there we go they also have taken down moose which the Alaskan moose is a huge beast and can get very very aggressive too both male and female in fact I've heard that the female moose can be especially vicious uh when they get when they get angry um and it's not going to go well shooting one with a gun that isn't powerful enough to do the job a lot of people look at at the uh the 10 mm as a suitable replacement or an alternative to the Magnum revolvers your typical 44 Magnum revolver is a rather large heavy thing with a lot of recoil I happen to love 44 magnum revolvers but I will admit that a 10 mm in either 1911 or the Glock 20 or any one of a number of other guns out there is a very very viable alternative now if you want Power yeah go with a big heavy revolver but the semi-autos are easier to carry and they offer a lot of advantages if you don't need the ultimate power there the 10 are more difficult to master than the 45 or probably most other semi-automatic handguns they just kick more they have more muzzle blast uh they are a more ferocious thing to try and control you got to work on your form you got to work on your follow through you got to work on your grip strength and then you can actually Master these things uh there are some environmental considerations if you live out the country rural area wide open spaces longer shots being more possible and the chances of having an adverse encounter with Wildlife cougar bear moose whatever then I think the 10 makes an awful lot of sense in town it's got some limitations it has a potential of carrying a lot of of energy farther down range and having very good penetration way down there so when rounds get cranked off in town then you may be endangering more people go through house walls and things like that you have to remember that the the use by law enforcement of the 10 millimeter was rather short-lived it was real popular for very few years and then that faded off and it's it's pretty much gone from law enforcement anymore replac by the 40 and now the 40 is actually fading away and being replaced by the nine fair enough and there's still still people out there using the 45 it's kind of nice so the 45 it has a long-standing history of use with military to start with and then civilian owners and law enforcement got a hold of it and they all liked it so it's still in use with all those things again I'm not sure that there's military units still using it but there's very much law enforcement and civilian owners using the darn thing 45 just keeps on performing it's a little more controllable quite a bit more controllable I think than the 10 that was one of the reasons I shot both the 21 and the 20 when we're at the range because well they're the same pistol virtually they feel about the same in hand until until you pull the trigger and then it goes bang and one of them recoils a lot more than the other uh the 45 seems to be more controllable to me and it also may give you a little bit less penetration which you think oh less penetration well less penetration in a self-defense thing can be good if you're shooting Mr bad guy you don't necessarily want that bullet to either Exit or if it does exit you'd like for it to have lost and shed a lot of its energy using up most of its energy on Mr bad guy so then it's less dangerous us to whatever is behind the as salent Mr Bad Guy whether it's people property or whatever you've lost some of that energy and it's not going to be as dangerous as it might have been so we've looked hard at both cartridges we've looked at the 45 we've looked at the 10 we've run them in a couple different platforms here the 1911 and the Glock and it's time to come to some conclusions because we have to make up our minds after it's time to take a look at where we're going to go with all this information that we've we've brought in and that we've shared with you so far these are indeed hard-hitting defensive handgun cartridges there is no monkeying around with these things they get down to business they are powerful and they will do the job they've been doing the job for a long time both are very well proven they both have an advantage over smaller weaker cartridges they hit harder they inflict more damage and they have an advantage because of that now the drawback to that harder hitting is dealing with more recoil and particularly in the case of the 10 more muzzle blast which can be a little bit disconcerting for the shooter whoever is using that gun uh you think about it especially in something like a low light situation and indoors where a lot of shootings happen indoors and in low light um there's going to be a big big muzzle blast to deal with and a bright flash and that's a problem and the more intense your cartridge is the more intense that blast is to deal with ammunition training ammunition and self-defense ammunition is more expensive with the 10 and the 45 than it is with say the 9 mimer that's one of the reasons a lot of people like the nine is it's much less expensive to feed so there you go in addition to having lower recoil how to choose between the two the 10 seems particularly well suited for use in rural areas where things are more spread out you've got the possibility of making a longer shot and you've got a possibility a stronger possibility of having to deal with a large aggressive wild animal of some sort that's where it shines is when it might need to reach out a little bit farther or you're dealing with something bigger that takes more stopping power the 45 tends to shine at uh shorter ranges it tends to shine in urban areas a lot where your shots may be very very close and you just need a big bullet to go in and do what big bullets do the 45 also may have less penetration and I say that may because I think that depends more on bullet Choice than on the particular cartridge both of them can penetrate a lot particularly if you're using Full Metal Jacket ammunition Full Metal Jacket ammunition is thought of really as having less stopping power and more penetration and that's something to be very aware of and that's why police agencies all over the place use hollow points they get that stopping power and it also helps limit the penetration which is a really really handy thing I've investigated some shootings we've had some shootings uh here in our local police department in our local area in the county sheriff's and all and you really have to be careful with the penetration that your handgun does not necessarily all your shots are going to hit some of them are going to go zooming off out there somewhere every shot has to be accounted for so you want to have enough power to do the job but you don't want to endanger everybody down the block either I'm I'm a fan of the 45 ACP there's a certain familiarity and fondness for the cartridge that I have I know how to load for it I know what I like to what results I like to get from it and so I'm probably going to go ahead and stick for the most part with my 45 as my selfdefense cartridge however I have to admit that I really like the 10 I have a soft spot in my heart for it and a 10 mm in either a double stack platform like the Glock or a single stack magazine like in 1911 would be a wonderful thing for me I spend a lot of time in the Great Outdoors and it's entirely possible that I'll find myself with a 10 millimeter for that purpose someday what I want to know is do you favor one over the other do you have experience with one or both of these cartridges uh the 45 or the 10 tell us about it drop a comment and we'll have a discussion that means it's time to wrap up this video I hope you enjoyed this video don't forget to like And subscribe also we're on Facebook YouTube Rumble where we've got unrestricted content and Instagram make sure to follow us on all those channels ultimate reloader also has a commercial Solutions division serving law enforcement the military and the gun industry we have some unique capabilities including a comprehensive Suite of recoil testing and evaluation capabilities trigger profiling and more if you're interested in custom rifles like what we build here on the channel or Gunsmithing Services you're going to want to go to rifles. ultimat reload.com and get on the wait list if you want to learn lucrative Gunsmithing like what I show here on the channel including building custom rifles and sakote 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Length: 44min 18sec (2658 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 10 2024