Half in the Bag: Borat 2 and The Haunting of Bly Manor

half in the bag [Music] i don't get it whose [ __ ] hand is that and why would she leave the door to her hotel room unlocked i don't get it doesn't she remember what happened to that guy when oj tried to steal back his sports memorabilia well now that we've finished the haunting of blind manner do you want to talk about it oh geez oh i really want to drink this coffee but i don't know if you can see on camera a chip piece of glass came off my my job of the hut mug i may have already swallowed it it may have fallen on the floor or it might be in the liquid so i've got three options okay one is a bad one drinking it having already swallowed it well that's the worst one yeah yeah but if i drink it very slowly and sort of filter it i may catch it before i just ceramic there's actually a fourth option which is that you move the liquid to a different cup that's an option well there's brand new halloween cups over there can you guys hey there you go yeah hold on everybody so hold on if you need to go use the restroom these haven't even been open okay good that means they're probably sort of eventually we might oh this one's got a giant crack in it uh eventually we might talk about some streaming things but this is more important all right here we go if you're just coming back from the bathroom now i'm pouring the liquid in here to make sure there's no oh my god it's spilling everywhere it's all over the keyboard i found it did you really i found it everybody i found it oh show it off to the camera this is important like it i could say hey look at that i could sleep well at night uh i found the chip so whoever sent this in i will not be suing you for my my bleeding ulcer that will result from this so i found it and now i can drink my coffee out of a plastic halloween novelty cup this is legitimately the best news i've heard in months and this is one of the most riveting half of the bags oh it flew right on the ppe oh god someone's gonna inhale it so one of our uh our heroes at the hospital i'm gonna put it in the shot glass now that putting it in a different glass that's meant to consume a liquid is probably also a bad idea why don't you just dump it on the floor jay okay okay now we're going to talk about a haunting of blind manor yes because there's no movies out no what's playing in theaters you know i've never looked well the last one is tennant the last movie ever what happened to um black uh black swan black widow canceled due to corrodovirus it's just put off that's that's in the nebulous we don't know what's happening with it yet because the movie that was supposed to save theaters and bring them back and bring the hordes of people back was tenant and it flopped horribly so all these movies that were gonna come out in like december november december they're like never mind you gave them cold feet so tenant ironically was the movie that killed theaters just to be clear like for people that keep saying when are you gonna review tenant when are you gonna review tenant one we're not going to the [ __ ] movie theater but two i didn't care about tennant either way no no i don't wow my christopher nolan's stuff i bet it's just as good as other christopher nolan movies and i don't give a [ __ ] i can tell you this i've never seen a trailer for tennant it never crossed my path okay i'm vaguely aware that it has something to do with um time going forwards and backwards yes and then i thought the movie was called tenant for the longest time and then i saw it was called tenet and then i said oh well that's neat that's a palindrome yeah and then i fell asleep because i had too much rum okay that's fair and then the next day i forgot about everything that happened the previous day welcome to 2020 mike yeah so that was the last i thought about attendant yeah um did you ever see uh it was called tent and it was about a circus that went backwards and forwards like like like like an elephant stumbles during its action falls into a crowd and then like the the the wrist the ring master runs in the back and he has a giant like switch like a time switch yeah and it's like built by this like this magician like it's all uh it's all it takes place in like the 1800s and this like weird magician built this magical time oh no coco the elephant fell on the crowd he pulls the switch then it turns out that one of the people that coco the elephant crushed was a young adolf hitler oh and so they have to in 1942 the gis under a special mission have to go find the old switch hidden in in a in a basement in bulgaria where there's over time again yes and and no go back to that moment when the elephant fell crushing young adolf hitler yeah in the bulgarian circus in 1892 yeah yes and then and then they realized that sitting next to adolf hitler was madame curie who who created uh a cure for um botulism or whatever and so they have this moral dilemma it's much like that uh episode of star trek uh city on the edge of forever okay um so a premise like that but you have a bulgarian circus in the late 1800s and a horrific elephant accident and a time traveling uh lever created by a magician played by hugh jackman played by hugh jackman who may or may not be human oh oh my god and then and then the ring later of course we'll get danny devito because he played the ring leader in dumbo what a great ring later or maybe we'll get peter uh uh uh peter um not sarah fenowitz uh who's the littler peter peter dinklage dinklage she would be a great uh ringleader sure ringmaster what do they call it ringmaster ringmaster not ringleader ringleader somebody who like runs an underworld crime yeah i meant ringmaster the whole time i was saying that um and then yeah with this whole thing peter dinklage will be much older in the future in 1942 he'll be elderly and he'll have to accompany the crack team of uh like like uh united states marines during world war ii and they have to fight past the nazis to get into the underground bunker where the bulgarian circus equipment is held okay i like this okay it's called tent if studios or if movie theaters want to bring back people this is the movie that would do it not not christopher nolan's loud convoluted crap that everybody's tired of they want circus elephants sitting on hitler right right who doesn't want that anyway let's talk about haunting of bly manor uh this is a netflix original it is the next film in the haunting of series the original or the first one was haunting of hill house uh gothic horror is my jam and this is based on the turn of the screw partially two kids in a mansion that's about where it ends and there's spooky ghosts it's a 1896 horror novella by author henry james and i'll tell you in 1896 a guy named henry james is not writing a lesbian love story you don't think so i'm just saying it probably didn't happen but you take this this this classic the other one is shirley jackson um this is this is a different author but still they're mining the gold from those those vintage uh uh gothic horror novels or novellas that i'm sure coincidentally your public domain oh i don't know all i know is if you want to see a more accurate remake or retelling of turn on the screw you should watch a film that came out earlier this year called turning starring stranger kids yeah i saw that i didn't think it was as bad as everyone said it's not particularly good but that was like at like zero percent on rotten tomatoes and people were saying it's the worst thing ever i was like no no good performances some decent atmosphere it's just that the story gets kind of stupid and it doesn't really have a ending it has like multiple endings and no ending i was watching the haunting of blind manor and then i was like oh okay uh this is based on the turn of the screw there's another film base on the turn of the screw it's called the others with nicole kidman [Music] i have not seen that since the theater is that what it was based on yeah that was another in incarnation of the turnout of the screw and i watched um uh the turning and i was like is that the movie where the parents walk into the lake at the end and kill themselves well that's the boy i was like oh that's the boy that's a little classier production called the boy but it was it was also but it was similar in the fact that a nanny au pair girl out of her element comes to work at a big palatial estate somewhere in england i guess i don't know this is kind of where all this like the ghost stuff comes from that that uh mid-1800s period when people started doing seances yeah i mean obviously they talked about ghosts before then but the the the uh modern era the edwardian period of of society when when they would start to do seances uh ghost photography was a thing way back in the day when photography first started and then photographers realized they could double exposure i can i can take a picture of your dead loved one pay me 100. and your dead loved one will appear in a photograph of you and then there's a there's a i just need a picture of your dead loved one preferably a negative so i can conjure their spirit then they do a double exposure and there's a ghost in the photo and everyone's amazed are you telling me that people have been taken advantage of for centuries now this isn't a new thing there's a whole building devoted to it it's called zach baggins haunted museum listen jay uh but ghost stories where uh the the first episode or the first season of uh american horror story is about a haunted house yeah it's a very classic traditional people that die in the haunted house are trapped in it they can't leave the the perimeter and that's kind of hunting a fly manner uh a an american au pair in the 1980s comes over to england and then she has to take care of miles and flora our two little kids who have been portrayed by numerous actors over the years in the turn of the screw sorry if i scared you i am sorry i like gothic horror i think you do too i don't know well i like yeah i do sometimes depends on how it's executed of course but i like mike flanagan a lot who i was disappointed to find out he only directed the first episode of this season he did the entirety of uh hill house and i think this suffers a little bit from that this feels a little more generic tv showy in terms of the execution cinematography is fine like the lighting and stuff is still very similar but it doesn't seem to have that kind of uh life that he brings with like his camera movements there's nothing like the episode in hill house that's all almost all like one take there's nothing quite like that in this i i i would have to re-watch every episode and take notes but i think i disagree with you because when when the credits would roll i would wait for that directed by credit and then i would see a name that i don't recognize and then i would say oh this is going to be good this is going to be artsy they got somebody that i've never heard of and then you notice little style choices that are different in every episode it's like like a movie with multiple sequels with different directors yeah some are a little more like or a season of a tv show where there's different directors for different episodes well you know what this is though that this has more artistic artistic freedom well what i like and don't like about this whole kind of format because now it's on netflix it's a limited series it's not like a continuing every season you know it's just continuation of the same story and what i like is that that allows the storytelling to be done in a different way how it's like okay the first few episodes we set up our main character we set up her scenario but then we can do a whole episode that's just focusing on one character which you can't really do on a more traditional tv series so i like that uh freedom as far as the storytelling goes yeah yeah um the side characters in this i like that they could do that that focus on them but in terms of this series it didn't completely work for me i like the side characters i just don't think that the once especially when you finish it the overall story i didn't feel like it added that much to it knowing the specifics of their backstories i suppose i could see it that way i'm more happy that the ending was was satisfying and um i don't want to get into spoilers too much you you got the backstory of the origin of the maine ghost and that flashback episode that went back to sixteen hundreds whatever it was on the black and white episode the black and white episode um which was my favorite episode it was excellent um let's just break it down like this right episodic television you got something like star trek the next generation i haven't brought it up before but i'm going to bring it up now star trek the next generation you got 26 episodes a season every episode has to have a beginning a middle and an end it has to end unless you're doing a two-parter of course and it's done in five acts it's done in 41 minutes and science to it intro 4x you can't stray you can't take 25 minutes to have a scene where uh counselor troy smokes a cigarette and reads this book and and has a flashback to when she was 10 years old and something happened to her and that it takes up 20 minutes of a 41 minute episode you can't do that you don't have that freedom you have to hit all of your beats perfectly down to the second and every every you know because you also have to factor in commercial breaks yes those are the acts yeah and and so you have to ramp up to the commercial break something interesting happens right before it next act starts uh rising tension rising tension conclusion yeah it's like a like a perfectly laid out blueprint and every episode's different yeah you're still telling a story but you do have that confinement it's very confined and then you have something like haunting of blind manner where you have freedom of uh 10 episodes to go off in these directions but as long as you tighten it up and you conclude it and you know what your ending is yes that's an important part too see that's that's that's the positive of of these freewheeling ten six eight i don't know long episodes but then you have like dumpster fires like star trek discovery or star trek picard to where the show starts and halfway through the season all the writers quit no one knows what's going on they're making [ __ ] up they don't know how it ends they just keep stringing you along until the season's over and then everyone shrugs their shoulders and and they say thanks for watching all 10 episode suckers we didn't know what we were doing yeah that's what happened with star trek discovery season two no one knew what was going on it was a dumpster fire from beginning to end and they just kept stringing along or like was that show lost lost yes i mean that was that like so as long as you have a really good plan and you can you can flesh out characters you can go this way and you really have a good idea of where you're going that's that's what haunting of blind manner felt like to me it felt indulgent at times but then it felt uh worthy of indulging at other people well it had a yeah it had a satisfying payoff and they they managed to successfully end two episodes with the exact same cliffhanger yeah we have a cliffhanger and you're like oh my god i gotta watch the next episode you go to the next episode you watch the entire episode and then you get to the end and we're right back to that cliffhanger from the previous episode and it works there is a ghost that comes out of the lake spoilers there's a ghost in black matter yeah yeah yeah there's a ghost and she has no face and she comes out of the lake and she drags people into the lake she cracks their neck first in some cases drags them into the lake and no one knows why yeah and this goes on for like seven episodes you never know and a lesser show would just have that happen lady in the light it's spooky it's spooky but an entire hour-long episode is devoted to setting up the lady in the lake's backstory yeah and it's not set up in the beginning it's string not strings you along but you get invested in the modern day story you don't really understand what's going on with the ghosts and then they say okay before we wrap this [ __ ] up we're gonna we're going to really expand on this backstory and it had a more powerful impact as a result of it yeah done telling it that way because then you you know it's like it's like a double double whammy it's like you get punched in the face then punched in the gut so danny our lead hero our au pair gets grabbed by the ghost and we had seen previously uh with with the guy character i forget his name too the same fate happens to him so that that's that's always key too in horror you set up just how horrific something is that can happen to somebody yeah then it starts happening to someone you really care about and then you're like oh my gosh and then we're like that if that's not scary enough because we know we get the backstory of it yeah and then it becomes even more depthful and uh well it becomes well yeah it's you're already uh concerned for the main character but then when you get the backstory of the ghost in a very kind of traditional classical ghost story way there's a sadness to it as the title says like a haunting quality to it where there's a sadness to the uh the supernatural elements melon melon melancholy yeah that's the whole crux of gothic horror yes and i like that more than i mean the james juan stuff conjuring movies can be fun they have their place too but in terms of something that like resonates and sticks with you yeah this is where it's at there's emotion to it it's not it's not um uh what a visceral no like primordial like fear you know the just [Applause] survival this is the texas chainsaw massacre that has its place you know and that that there's a certain quality to that too but this is more um yeah it's more emotional it's more sad especially the end of this yeah well this especially bittersweet yeah i'd say more so than the first season this is i mean the first season's very emotional too but this one that's about like an entire family this is so centered on two characters really tragedy it's yeah there's a it's it really is like and it it earns the emotion that it gets by the end of it definitely because that's it's barely a horror story it's a love story it's a love story and they they're right if i had a complaint about the show it's there's a lot of dialogue that is very telling you exactly what the themes of the show are he said it was a ghost story it isn't it's a love story and she could not risk the most important thing her most important person sometimes once in a blue goddamn moon i guess someone like this moon flower just might be worth the effort um and that's one of them like it wasn't a ghost story it was a love like yeah we got that that the conversation with a bride was a little on the nose there's a handful of that throughout the season where it's yeah it's really the dialogue is spelling out how you're supposed to feel and so much of it is told just visually where you don't need those specifics but uh damn if every actor in this isn't great there's not one one standout that's bad they even cast greg sestero from the room what's going on here he kind of took me out of it because he's at the very beginning in the very end but it's almost like it takes some balls to cast him in a serious project and they went for it uh and through no fault of his own he was distracting but it's like you cast him and you know like people are going to see him and they're going to i suppose yeah a soccer mom watching this just because it's on netflix i didn't recognize him at first he's not he's not given close-ups shall we i think i'll stay here a moment you okay just enjoying the fire good night good night yeah i think hill house is more consistent uh in terms of quality from episode episode uh but i think this one has a stronger payoff yes because this this season it starts pretty you know it's slow but it starts good the middle couple episodes lost me a bit like they introduced the uh the dream hopping stuff which i found kind of annoying and didn't really have a satisfactory payoff i mean it ties in a bit with the theme of like ghosts as memories or memories of ghosts like i get that but like in terms of how it was executed i didn't really like it but then those last two or three episodes solid but see that's me coming from a lover of all things paranormal and ghosts i like that idea of what a different version of what it is to be a ghost where memories they exist in moments and and time doesn't have any meaning and they have to keep repeating moments sometimes horrible ones it plays with time it plays with perception and what it's like to be dead yeah so uh haunting of blind manner great six hour or eight hour long movie and that you don't have to sit in a corona virus-filled movie theater next to a fatso eating nachos in your ear and as we said it's something that they can uh play around with the traditional narrative structure with because they don't have to follow the rules they're not in a uh 3 000 theaters and have to please the same audience that's going to see the avengers media is changing i know it's great it's on netflix the same platform if that's not your thing you can watch the latest adam sandler turd [Applause] or you can watch a 30 minute short film where david lynch interrogates a talking monkey right she was the love of my life i'm not [ __ ] you endless possibilities for the way stories can be told in streaming media in your your mainstream horror film no characters have to have a case of the not gays you can just go ahead and have them have a case of the gays they're just [ __ ] gay and you know what [ __ ] it everybody loves it it's a way to experiment like yeah and you don't have that risk you don't have that risk of oh god we're putting this in 3 500 theaters you have to put this element in this element and take this out yeah you have to do this and this and our we have to have all these kind of main characters and you can just go you can go off the rails you can tell whatever kind of story you want you could cast whoever you want and it finds its audience it finds its audience you don't have to worry that much about the the uh the money like the market i guess things can flop on netflix and be bad and like damage their business you can have a horrible backlash to something they put out like that cuties movie right you got to be careful go too far but you know like i you don't have a crazy nut jobs protesting outside of the theater yeah you can't show a lesbian ghost story in my amc theater why it's two miles from my church you don't have that kind of crap you just have it you know and if somebody doesn't want to watch it you don't got to watch it yeah so i'm the only the only freedom jay absolutely the only downside is that sometimes it can be harder for things to gain any momentum or to find things like you might tell someone like hey have you seen this movie it's on netflix and they're like i've never even heard of it because things just get lost in the shuffle because there's so much of it that's why we're here jay sure we're stuck in this vcr repair shop we got a streaming television right over there and in fact we're we're the heroes heroes work here put that sign in the vcr window or embrace your repair shop window [Music] well jay another movie came out an actual movie that uh i assume was probably going to end up in the movie theaters i don't know that this was uh the trailer for this movie came out and i sent you a message about it i was like sasha baron cohen made a secret borat sequel and not even heard about this it just showed up one day which was very exciting 14 years ago i released movie film which brought great shame to kazakhstan [Music] well a lot of this movie seems to have been shot pre-corona virus i think it's something he probably started production coronavirus happens so he just sort of worked it into the story yeah which is the advantage of something like this where you can and i think in certain cases have to uh rework your story as you're going along yeah um but overall first impressions i was blindsided by the return of morat yeah 16 years i think we're on the record just saying we're fans of sasha baron cohen and his awkward uh sometimes horrible comedy i yeah i love sasha baron colony makes me crack up um from even brothers grimsby the the dictator bruno all those movies if it's a hidden camera thing or a guise of it being a documentary and you're tricking people and he's doing these like crazy characters even when that's not the case though like brothers grimsby wasn't that that's that's like a narrative that was the dictator right the dictator had some hidden camera stuff it was mostly american yeah so yeah but borat was like the first movie even after two years of people doing bad borat impressions the movie itself was still funny the character is funny i rewatched borat and it holds up yeah it holds up i mean i mean he's talking about bush and there's a couple dated things you know obviously the time he filmed it there's an element of politics to uh sasha baron cohen's oh sure more so with this one than the first move michael bennis i brought the girl for you the the first movie is i mean there's some of that but it's mostly what works about the characters that kind of he's he's naive but he's racist but when you present that character to certain people it brings out the worst in them i see a lot of people and i think there's a dead young muslim wonder what kind of bomb he's got strapped to him yeah in a way where you let them dig their own grave yeah uh the the most infamous example in the first movie is when he's on the busload of the party bus with the dumb frat boys and they're saying like all these horrible sexist things and it's like he kind of just lets them talk right he puts them in a position where they they think they can talk to this person uh so openly about these things because he's this naive foreign man character they tricked people in the first one and this one there's a there's a guy from kazakhstan he's touring america and he's making a documentary you know sign this contract yeah and there's already people talking about suing him for this one yeah i know they tried to assume for the first one too oh yeah yeah but hidden in the contract very carefully by high-powered lawyers is is wording that means you are giving away your rights and you can't sue and you could try but um so he goes to this dinner party and you know he's saying offensive things in my country they would go crazy for these two not so much and they're like oh he's just a foreigner but the most i think the most telling scene from that one was that he's like well i go i got to go make toilet okay go upstairs and he comes down with a bag of poop and while funny it's like the lady then takes him upstairs and says okay the poop goes in the toilet and you you know you have to wipe yeah and and the the mere fact that someone has to feel like they have to explain that to a grown adult from a foreign country shows their opinion of people that live in foreign countries that they they they are so unsophisticated that they can't even wipe their own butt right it's like really really telling and and where you don't immediately pick up on the fact that this is all a ruse some people should you should know right away yeah um which does lead into this movie where i feel like way more this is more hit and miss than the first movie and it feels like there's a lot of scenarios in this where he probably had an idea of how he hoped it would go it didn't go that way so then they had to kind of manipulate it more in editing than the first movie this felt like way more heavily edited like again i mentioned that scene with the the party bus in the first movie where those those frat boys are just talking and you just hold on them this movie felt like there was lots of editing lots of uh like adr or those parts were like borat or his daughter their faces aren't facing the camera and they add in lines there's a big to-do about the rudy giuliani scene yes which i don't have any love for rudy giuliani but that feels i almost feel bad for him because that is so heavily manipulated the layman will watch it and go oh my gosh you know uh he was trying to have sex with her or something but he does come off bad in that scene but they they definitely amp it up with the editor it's it's you could as editors ourselves we know you can make people look terrible you can cut the cutaways that maybe they're smiling creepily in a cutaway and then you match that with audio that happened ten minutes ago you know i i don't know what the daughter said well she's like let's go into the bedroom and have a drink shall we have a drink in the bedroom but like her backs to the camera you can give me your phone number and your address the the they said that there's something they had to either get the lav mic out of his shirt something so people don't know live mics are hidden through your shirt right under your belt in you know in a pack and so you have to take it out and he didn't have to i don't know why he's laying on the bed that's that's really she probably said why don't you lay back and i'll pull this cord out and he had to tuck his shirt in so then you got a shot of him putting his and then when they're walking into the bedroom his back is to the camera and he goes let me get your phone number you can give me your phone number and your address oh yeah and that's so it's like i could have been taken from earlier that audio felt weird she's 15 she's too old for you but the jokes when he writes the jokes the running of the americans thing at the end was hilarious yes um his costumes when he goes in with the ku klux klan outfit he's the jewish guy going into the synagogue oh my god killed by jews [Laughter] so when he does his bits his bits are brilliant um and oh the debutante ball when she's having her moon blood see that didn't quite work for me either that that to me was like there's a couple parts where it's like like i said he had an idea of how he thought it would go but like that part and like the the mike pence part when he runs in he's dressed as donald trump or as he calls him mcdonald trump which is why where it's like okay nothing really happens other than everybody looks awkward and mike pence just kind of stares at him and then he gets escorted out right away where it's like conceptually i can see what was supposed to be funny about it but there's no real uh humor that comes out of the actual situation other than the idea i mean i was a hard a hard get to try and get into like a the the what was it the cpac yeah convention with a trump costume carrying the lady over your shoulder you're not gonna get very far right so i guess the idea is just the fact that he got away with it that far um he tried yeah and there was a couple of shots with with pence and he's just like he's just kind of stairs yeah yeah and i don't know if that's footage of him from earlier this is yep i always think back to that scene at the rodeo in the first one oh okay he's getting prepped by like that super old racist man and you probably aren't emotional maybe that's not your name i am a kazakh i follow the hulk but you look like i ain't gonna kiss you why not the people that do the kissing over here are the ones that float around like that are they all alone yeah stay away from them the kids in my country they take them and they take them to jail and finish take them out and hang them yes that's what we're trying to get done here high five and it's like again like i said it lets people dig their own graves and this one doesn't have as much of that there's more like like moments in the first one where where it's like oh my god yes some of these people are real what did work better in this one though is the actual story this worked better as a movie than i think the first one did yeah the whole the whole uh relationship the buddy and relationship between him and his daughter actually worked in like a storytelling movie kind of way it's not the most original thing but the budding relationship i thought was good um the actress that played his daughter kept up with him i thought she was great she there's actually a lot of moments in the movie some of the best stuff is the stuff with her that borat's not even there for when he takes her to the uh like the babysitter who apparently that woman's upset too i mean i understand what you're saying that your daddy told you that yes but that's not the real world i will touch your vagine who may yes have i ever touched it yes yes for even though she comes across good well that's the thing yeah i read that but yeah she she's doing doing all the right things she's given her advice she's like do you really want to be sold off to marriage you're a strong young woman you've got a smart mind you could do more and which works narratively i thought yeah that's what leads to the daughter's art yeah i thought she came off as like as a really good person so i i think it's just more the idea that you were lied to about what the point of the movie is so there's that someone should do a kickstarter to get her a little more money than 3 000 bucks well it was even less than that originally the first scene where bora brings the daughter in i want to say it was like 300 bucks or something um but then there's she shows up again at the end borat's like will you be my my black wife or whatever yeah i have a pain in my titties because you're giving away your baby to do that scene they gave her more money because it was pandemic times yeah yeah hollywood isn't isn't keen on giving away money but if you say babysitter watch this guy's 15 year old daughter we're going to give you 25 000 it might raise a red flag to her so they have to pay her a wage appropriate amount of money for babysitting somebody but when the movie comes out as respectable people then you give her a little bump and you say hey sorry we did this to you you know here's 50 grand thank you yeah you did a really good job in the movie that's what i would do but i'm not a sleazy a hollywood producer that's like the how's it the james cameron titanic thing the the the the first officer of the titanic mr murdoch lightholder was the second officer i know a lot about the titanic murdoch murdoch in the movie kills himself do you remember that part when first he shoots somebody and then he's like oh my gosh uh i don't i i feel so terrible i'm killing myself that was like some people said that he shot himself most people said he just drowned heroically so then afterwards the the murdoch family in ireland was like this is kind of awful that you portrayed our great great grandfather in this way he's got grandchildren he's got a family legacy he has a foundation he's kind of famous he was the first officer on the titanic and then james cameron was like you're right here's one thousand dollars his foundation that was all i mean i guess it was something shitty like that okay and it's like the movie made 197 billion the biggest movie in the history of movies and you exploited this poor man who was a real life person who didn't die all that long ago yeah and uh he made him look bad by murdering someone and then killing himself and uh well here's a thousand bucks so hollywood they're a bunch of sleaze bags and that's the one thing that kind of i'm on the fence about sasha baron cohen i think he's really funny at the same time i feel bad for some of the people that have been exploited um the frat guys awful they come off awful you [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of it yeah and then you never call them again why you don't call them because they do not have a telephone yes no not because of that they don't have never you know i mean our country the minorities actually have more power anyone that is minority has the the uh upper hand i'm sure all those guys look back on that movie now and they're just like horribly embarrassed yes and now they're 38 years old and they have probably have kids and they're different people they've grown up and then this is on their this part of their life forever a word to the wise never sign a contract to appear in a documentary and then and then he goes down to like the most the most rural rednecky parts you know of in the world where people might not get that this is a guy from hollywood in a costume yeah you can't pull that off in new york city or los angeles they'll be like yeah which is one of the smart things they do in this movie is the idea that borad is now famous because of the original film so he has to wear different disguises yes and that adds to the fun of the movie stupid foreign yeah i just remember an old i think it was ali g ali g's funny as [ __ ] i love i love ollie g g did a lot of interviews and and it's just like this did he interview trump well my idea is to come out with just like these ice cream gloves that make the ice cream not go on your hands and make it all well sticky good luck folks it's been nice seeing you you take care of yourself where is your going to be in on that well it sounds like an interest and trump's like we're done he just immediately recognizes that this is [ __ ] and that happens a lot and so you go down to west virginia how many other girls are gonna live in here with me how many uh girls you normally put in a cage this size uh one people are just like what so they kind of answer the question but they look bad yeah so sasha baron cohen making people look bad uh this one feels sort of sorry for some of the people not so sorry for the others yeah this one like i said more so with this one it feels like he didn't quite have as much damning material to work with so we had to do a lot more manipulation and editing and more focus on an actual story i can open a beer with my small hole i can't i look we got to be appropriate and ladylike okay this is what you're not supposed to do um i think most of borat stuff is shot in romania because kazakhstan will be like executing they're not happy with them so they film in like rural romanian villages and then the the ministry office where they show is like a romanian building um but kazakhstan is is a gigantic country oh yeah i i thought it was small but i never knew anything about it and i looked it up and it's it's like the ninth largest country land-wise in the world it only has like 18 million people so it's like all spread out there's a couple of big cities but it's so like spread out and rural and um i was like playing with google maps you zoom in on these like small rural cities and some of them have like like little markers for like businesses ah oh boy is it funny a store crime scenes investigation community center keep up the good work not home good store for your shack horse cafe auto restoration service doing a great job grocery store kazakhstan's second largest grocery store very nice kazakhstan's first costco kazakhstan's biggest movie theater one screens cafe cosmodrone now cockroach free home credit bank most trusted bank in all of kazakhstan maximum security prison i mean school train station greatest museum in all of kazakhstan cafe for delivery or takeouts cafe for hillary clinton's water utility company highly rated weapon of mass destruction monument five-star hotel but yeah so so uh sasha baron cohen is making fun of uh uneducated redneck whites in the south primarily yeah uh and then he's also on the flip side which is the controversy with the first one was all the anti-jewish stuff and of course sasha baron cohen himself is jewish he's making fun of kazakhstanis uh and their hatred of the jews or just ignorance of other cultures in general yeah specifically that culture um so he's kind of but it's meant to to parallel ignorance in the us and in the way people react the borax character and it all just comes down to whether or not you find it funny and and why you find it funny i'm sure there's somebody out there who's laughing at the running of the jew in the first one in the wrong way the funny part about you really that's like the people and this was a everyone saw it becomes like a controversy on twitter people start talking about like south park they're like south park raise people to to uh uh think that cartman is the is a hero and they they look up like nobody cartman is a joke cartman's he's racist and like like uh borad he makes fun of jews all the time nobody looks up to cartman nobody's ever looked up to cartman but there's this other side that tries to act like there are people that actually uh think cartman's funny for the wrong reasons and i think that if there is it's such a just like borad it's such a small minority of people yeah so that to me is almost like a non-issue you're laughing at the ignorance yeah that's the joke that's the joke is that borat has his daughter in a cage and all that that book that he has her vagina became very angry and bit her hand about not a girl not touching don't touch your vagina or it'll eat you yeah and the babies that are reading it she's like this is not true right the contrast there of the how exaggerated that is or how ridiculous the idea of that book is and having people try to react to it seriously because they think that this is you know someone from a foreign country yeah and so someone might say they're trying to be polite that he thinks misogyny is funny and it's like no the fact is the joke is that those things really exist or have existed right where misinformation like that um demonizing people or cultures and and making fun of that's what he's making fun of he's not um he's not doing that as the joke right so in a way it's a good thing in a way it can be misleading or confusing for people that are dumber well that's yeah like we talked about the rudy giuliani scene and now people are some people are like outraged at rudy giuliani when it's so like i don't know someone like you and me look at it and just it's so clearly so heavily edited it works as a comedy scene in a in a movie like this and it serves a purpose in the story of this movie you look at the the the way the footage is manipulated or the way the scenario is manipulated and how heavily edited it is yeah and it's it's super easy to do even very subtly like and and you see it in tv i see it in tv shows all the time where so something goes it's like the ending of chopped you ever watched chopped oh yeah they always had that dramatic music it's someone just standing there i love the salad i almost thought it was like a black truffle vinaigrette when i first saw it honestly little did i know it's blood and broccoli i think that you know you just sort of like warmed up the ribs they're good but i wish you like transformed these a bit and just a little bit more effort into the rib well they go there uh ted ted allen is going five four four three two one time's up please step back three and then you cut the footage of them they're they're oh they're pouring the thing on at the three two one and you know all that happened maybe 30 seconds ago [Music] oh yeah in the in the way it's edited every single episode of chopped ends with everybody finishing at the last possible second three two one time's up please step back three two one time's up three two one time's up please step back yes and and and you can manipulate time you can manipulate reactions um someone can go like that to something and they could be they could have done it 20 minutes ago to something else right it's super easy to do and and and you do it for dramatic purposes like like chopped yeah and that's that's most people watch dropped and go oh my god hurry up and i'm just like that happened a minute that happened five minutes ago sure for that guy over there and you'll see mistakes too you'll see that guy over there is on his phone he's all done with his his his uh four plates and he's seen him in the background of a shot yeah and you catch him there five four and then two seconds later they're cutting to him and he's still plating you know so we know how it goes and it all just depends on what is the end result the end result it's it's that kind of thing is more forgiving in yeah like a reality show or even this movie where it's basically a comedy not as forgivable in what's meant to be like a serious documentary right right this kind of rides that line a little bit because he is approaching it with sort of a political angle yes so it does have that questionable aspect to it that i didn't really get from the first movie because first movie isn't as overtly political it's more just exposing ignorance yeah if the end result is to make you laugh i laughed quite a bit i think i laughed the most at the debutante ball i think i was more surprised that that exists that's still a thing yeah it feels so antiquated miss drummond is attending grand canyon university where she is double majoring in cage maintenance and electronics with a focus on vcr repair but yeah this feels like a a good borat sequel it could have come out 10 years ago it could have come out two years after borat won that's kind of nice though that like the first movie came out it was a huge hit and everyone was doing their annoying borat impressions five-star hotel not and he didn't immediately it's not like austin powers where it's like you gotta make sequel you gotta make another sequel it's like he let it die 15 years later when no one was expecting it oh here's a borant sequel yeah it's uh it's it's it's not as good as the first one uh it's a little choppy uh the ending was was cute it was a nice way to tie it up yeah made sense uh yeah like i said i think it actually works better as a the first movie is so flimsy in terms of the story that is just an excuse to get from one set piece to the other and this one the set pieces not all of them are as strong but the story is stronger yeah so it balances out and the the romanian girl they dug up she was great yeah i thought it was just a american actress doing an accent she's just a nobody romanian actress that they plucked out and probably auditioned a hundred of them just to say can you ad lib you know can you do this so i think her accent might be real okay um which and and of course you know if she was someone sort of famous here she might get recognized right it's a good good pick yeah but it's on amazon prime and it's free and you don't got to go to a movie theater ever again movie film you pissed me now if he's still all right what do you prefer you fixed me in life you still same time fist each other yeah there you go huh why is there a gun on the table jay do you know anything oh my god jay's been dead this whole time i wonder what will happen next [Applause] come on come on get it plated

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Length: 54min 13sec (3253 seconds)

Published: Sun Nov 08 2020