G&E Shaper Universal Table Repair Part 1

[Music] so it's early morning got me a fresh cup of joe and we're gonna try to make our first test cuts here on the GE shaper I'm excited about this I woke up early and I've got a video made I'm happy about that now come out here and I just polished up this tool holder this is the two older that came with the machine and I'm I'm happy that it did because it's a perfect size for this rocker tool post right here and this is the wrench that come with it also it's an Armstrong wrench that fits the nut so I got that polished up as well so what we're going to do is probably swivel this vise 90 degrees we'll get it indicated and we'll start making some test cuts will start off conservative light see how the Machine reacts and then everything goes well maybe we'll start making some heavier cuts with it so there's the tool holder right there told you I got it I wire brushed it that's the number 42 Armstrong and these are incident 8 wide that's how wide this rocker tool post is right here is inch and 1/8 okay so we've got that cleaned up what I would like to do with this though and have the capability is to use one-inch tool bits I've got several one-inch square tool bits like this and they will fit in here and you know you will fit in here that way but you can't screw this all the way down and tighten it off there's not enough fuzz and material there so usually what what I've seen some people do is you know you shim it you stack in there so what I want to do is a project here maybe even today I don't know yet I want to make a shim block that's going to go in behind this tool bit okay have a block that slides in and have it to where it lands on this so it doesn't like fall through I'm not having to hold a bunch of stuff and tighten this up and since this is interesting an eighth wide inside here and I want to use wench one-inch tool bits I want a machine it so that it captures the square in the center and allow this to rock back and forth in there I've got this piece of flat bar and surprisingly enough this is some 813 which is tool steel and you can see that h13 this is some stuff that you can harden you know make a good strong piece with I don't know if I hardened it or not but we'll we'll check into that later but this is a perfect sized piece of material that I can use to make a spacer block to go down in there behind the one-inch tool bits like that and it'll have enough lip there to catch so it won't fall through and I'll mill it so that it has a one-inch wide channel there to hold the tool bit square and we could probably make a couple of these in different variations for other tool holders we have other Armstrong tool holders borne bar holders and things like that so I got enough here that I could probably make at least two maybe three of them alright so we're gonna make one for now but we'll get to that later on I got my parallel bump down use the mallet and do that and I'm gonna check the top of this and then this is this is going out of one of my books telling you how to check the top of your table to make sure that it's tram right so let's go ahead and turn it on I've got my stroke to justice so that it's within this area right here on the parallel so it's showing 2005 of this end right here so with this being a new machine to me I have no idea of that's droop here or the universal table so I'm just going to assume that the universal table is tilted up mm I on this end so we're going to make an adjustment on the table you got two nuts here there's a clamp like this on each side but you loosen these and then you adjust the worm this square right here it should be the warm adjustment for the universal table for the tilt and I believe this one's going to be to rotate the table this way I've run into an issue I don't know what's going on but this isn't working like it's supposed to and this worm this worm shaft looks like it's trying to work its way out this way and this is extremely hard to move and I don't know what's going on but I've got all four of these plant nuts tight I'm sorry I got all four of these nuts loose that serves as the clamp to hold that tilting table where it should be but is just it's like it's froze up but it moved once it kind of like dropped so I went the other way to try to move it back the other way and it's just like locked up solid so I don't know what is going on but it's extremely frustrating because this thing shouldn't move so I think my only option now is to take things apart and find out what's going on so another delay on getting my cut started so I'm gonna have to take this vise off and I'm gonna have to take this off and see what is going on in here and why this thing is not moving so I wasn't expecting to get this far to the Machine at this point but it looks like we're well on our way now I just need to go ahead and try to get it apart and find out why this tilt is binding up on me so I'm just showing you what we're getting into along the way I've had several of these screws like that look at that how do you do that to a screw this is the one that was like over here holding the wiper cover down and I almost I got it out okay I had a had a frustrating time getting that one out but they were all kind of like mushed over aside to take my chisel and just kind of like chisel out the center slot so these are going to get replaced I'm probably going to look and see if mcmaster-carr has screws similar to the if I don't really like slotted head but I'll see if I can get them to kind of make it look original if not we'll go with Alan button head style screws and here is one of the wipers this one goes right there here is the wiper cover that holds it down so it's evident you know obviously it's been hit right there and that's where that bad screw was right over here so we'll see if we can do some massaging to knock this back out and I want to polish these up and leave in bare metal a bright finish I think that'll that'll provide a nice contrast on the machine all right we got those we got to do some cleaning these are the clamps right here that go down and that's what holds the table where it's at it's got the same radius machined as this guy right here so I got me a fresh tub of purple cleaner over there mixed with some water and I'm going to start soaking all these things I'm just gonna throw them over there and let them soak and clean all this stuff up I finally got all the wipers off the side and my assumption is that this should just lift straight up out of there I'm hoping that's what happens I've even looked in the book and that's all that makes sense to me there's nothing else holding it it should be just sitting down inside this pocket right here so let's give it a shot and see I went ahead and scotch brite at the top of it why it was why it was there [Music] [Music] okay there's a broken bolt inside there no idea what that's gonna be for I gotta fill in this worm shaft over here on this side it's like seized up in this hole all right there's a good peek inside and I can tell the the broken bolt goes right here and it looks like that's gonna be the worm the worm screw for this guy it's actually been sitting there for a while it was kind of when I when I pulled it up just now it kind of felt sticky that's funny that it landed like right there that's weird how lucky can you get that is the easiest both extraction you can do the one that takes no time you just use your fingers that's interesting well hopefully that's going to be a simple screw replacement right there put that over here thinking about it by these little magnetic trays from Harbor Freight these are super hand they only cost like a couple bucks for stuff like this so inspect them the radius is right here it appears that they've been hand scraped yes those are hand scraped they're not just flaked - they're hand scraped in that's really really nice so they've got the relief area machined in the center here hand scraped there to match the table we've still got our fill here I haven't taken that off yet but I will and so this is the culprit I believe this is the worm screw right here and I believe it is just it is stuck inside the board here I need to look and I need to see if I can bump that out of there but I think just something is maybe aged rust I don't know has got this stuck and that's why I couldn't move the table I believe there may have some kind of fork that holds this in right there and I can tell where I was I was trying to turn this screw and I think it was trying to push itself out through the bore and it started galling that yep look that should be it right there that's what the broken bolt was it holds the fork that goes right there and that's gonna be a mmm so there it's been a nice and free so we've got some burrs on it that's what's going on it's all bird up right there I believe that should sit right there I need to go look in the book but I'm pretty sure that this is gonna go out that way so looking at the parts breakdown in the manual that's exactly what it is there's a fork this screw goes in there and you stick a fork in the bolt holds it in that's all of this so this should turn very freely and this table should move very freely whenever these clamps are done okay I'm hoping with any luck that that fork is maybe down inside that casting because it's all it down here and there is a gap I can see down inside here so I'm I'm hoping maybe that thing fell and it's felt but it's falling down in there not and I just can't see it so we are going to try moving the table the other way you're gonna try rotating it hopefully I'm hoping that there won't be any issues with that all right ha ha ha ha oh yeah look at that oh no it's okay so this would be a clamp plate I can take this off and and clean all this hopefully do you hear that I heard something I think I finally got lucky rotated this thing like three times trying to get that sucker to fall oh my god there it is oh man wow I'm glad to finally get my hands on this thing I've been fighting this for like an hour now man I'm not gonna bore you with the details but I'm gonna go ahead and take the opportunity to finish cleaning this table while I got it where I can you know easily rotating that's up here so I'm going to take care of that and then we're going to do some serious cleaning in here get this cleaned out and I guess I'm going to go ahead and you know work on the wipers and the other table get it all clean and get this ready to put back together so I'll bring you back once we're ready to reassemble all this stuff okay I figured there's probably gonna be a few folks that's wondering how I'm cleaning this stuff up so I thought I would go ahead and show you because the the top or the side of the table the flat side of the table actually has cleaned up really good so what I use is wd-40 and scotch brite so with this rusty face it there I start with them whatever color that is maroon I think or burgundy or something like that and you know coat it down with some wd-40 and I rub it rub it really good and clean it off I've already I've already scrubbed this whole side with the with this the medium medium grit scotch-brite and you can finally see graduations in here look at that man so I'll clean all this off and then I'll go back in there again with the fine scotch brite which is the gray same thing wd-40 and that kind of helps up brighten the surface up just a little bit more but it's looking good this is what I wanted to do to it I just wasn't expecting to do it today you can see up here how nice the table looks so far and I get down in the tea slots the T slots I'm using I got the course one also this is the really coarse scotch brite and what I do is I roll it up and fit it inside that T slot like that and I push it down in there and then rub it and it does a pretty good job of cleaning out two T slots and then shove a rag in there and wipe it back and forth and it'll really clean a mountain make them look good so one other thing I'm going to do is I've got I still got a little bit of oil left and this is some really good stuff for penetrating oil but also as a cleaner and a parts cleaner so I've got some more of this left over there in a container and I'm probably gonna use some of this to clean this out in there I'm not going to use the water based cleaners I'm going to use this either a wd-40 or the coral but I'm probably gonna use this to clean out some of that inside okay so I'm gonna get all this finished up we'll bring you back a little update on the progress I've got everything cleaned up on the inside right here we scotch-brite of the ways the curved ways here for the table to sit in alright vacuumed it out we've I've wiped it out in here using our wd-40 and I had to do a little bit of filing on this shaft right here the worm that thing was distorted and it's dented there so the keeper the little fork right here I had to do a little bit of sanding on it to get it to fit inside this key you know and then bolted in where it wasn't kinking it and putting this shaft in a bond so I've got it to where it rotates nice and free now just like it should so we are good to go I tried to get this out this should slide out of there but something either this shaft still has a dent in it somewhere or up inside this ball on the table it's not letting it get out and there's no easy way to get behind it I could probably tap it out you know with something soft but there's really no good way to do that so it's fine like it is it's going to work what I'm going to do this is it was it was greased so I've got some of that thick red grease that I use and I'm gonna put some of that grease on this worm right here and let it go so ready to set this thing back in there but I'm going to get to the other table scotch-brite it I haven't done it yet but this is all ready to go and we'll give it a wipe out I wanted to point out a couple of things you can see a ball oiler here ball oiler right here and I've been pumping oil in there so this one is to oil this worm shaft this guy right here alright and this ball oiler here is it has to do with the rotation of the table and here I'm not sure if it goes to the gear or where it goes I got a feeling it goes down here to the to the worm gear though okay one more ball there right here and that is probably to lubricate back here on this journal where it spins on this casting if I had to guess it's going to lubricate that and possibly the back of the table but I'm not sure about that but anyway I've been pumping oil in all of them and that's something that we will continue to do this this is the kind of stuff that you should do every time you run run a machine we are just about ready to drop this back in place maybe set it in place not drop it in place and I've been getting it all cleaned up I think I finally have it I'm comfortable with where it's at and we're gonna set it down in there so I thought I would show you let you see what the table looks like and what I've done to it before we put it back in there because I doubt very seriously you're going to get another good opportunity to see one of these pens on somebody else out there in YouTube land takes one apart so we scotch-brite it the whole thing it's comfortable where it's hanging so we're just gonna leave it right there all right we got her scotch-brite it real good it's nice and smooth and I cleaned out the t-slots real nice and here's a peek up underneath there so here's your worm gear and that is a bolt on deal from the factory and look see it's it's hollow in there here's your graduations so you can tilt that thing 15 degrees either direction and has to be expected there was a lot of pepper marks around the edges so I have spent some time filing the edges and stoning it once I file it I take my stone and try to make sure that there's no high spots left you can see some of the rubbing from the stone there and the file so I've got all the high spots off of it and I think it's ready to go so we'll give it another wipe down and we'll make sure that this is wiped out real good again and do some grease put some grease on the gear on the worm we'll put a little bit all here and set it down in place let's get her done are we ready to set it down in there we've got plenty of red grease on the worm and on the fork there the groove and the the shaft will get oiled so I'm just going to make sure it is wiped out one more time to us kicking around in here I'm going to put a little bit of oil on all the contact surfaces which is the four radiuses and then get the sides also there [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] it's home you look at that now we get it indicated well it's like lotion to man I like that was probably the most exciting thing of the day right there and working on this thing all day long I still haven't made a chip yet all right man it's so smooth okay well if I don't get inside and get cleaned up Abby's gonna get all upset with me because I'm supposed to take care of on date night dinner tonight it is it's almost seven o'clock I've been out here about 12 hours now working on this thing so there's gonna give it a quick progress of what I'm doing tonight because tomorrow I'm going to put thrust us back together so this is the original felt that goes around the table these are the these are the little felt holders right there and I decided I'm gonna reuse these things because they're still in good shape they fit perfect and they have the holes in them already this is the dirtiest looking one right there that was probably on the operators side of the machine you have discovered and cutting oil for a long time but what I did is this is why that waters look so dirty right now is because I had soaked those in there all day and so I wrung them out try to squeeze everything out of them and they look nice and clean and then I come over here and what I did is I press them into this pig mat like like that to try to help squeeze any water out and this pig map will help suck it out of that felt and what I hear what I've just done was so come down with wd-40 and I'll probably squirt them down again and go ahead and help try to remove any moisture that's still left in there and I'm gonna let those sit overnight and then tomorrow I'm gonna polish these up on the scotch brite wheel this one needs a little bit of dent repair on that one there but I want to get those cleaned up and then I'm gonna have to order some screws also any of us where we're at will bring you back [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] you

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Keywords: abom79, shaper, metal shaper, ge shaper, G&E shaper, gould & eberhardt, gould & eberhardt shaper, 32 inch shaper, 32 inch stroke shaper, vintage machines, old machinery, antique machinery, teardown & inspection, worm screw, machine shop, manaul machine shop, machinist

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Length: 30min 3sec (1803 seconds)

Published: Sat Feb 17 2018