FORTS - High Seas - Tournament XXVI - Livestream

foreign [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] and welcome in ladies and gentlemen welcome to the official forts 2v2 high seas tournament for today we're going to be jumping into some beautiful games I hope you guys are looking forward to this because this is going to be the best of the best of the boats welcome one and all as we are just getting started here but don't you worry there's plenty of activity going around here as we're getting all the cat hurting together it shouldn't be much longer but please do be aware there is a two minute delay so we will be uh running through things here on a timer thank you all right without further Ado let's jump into the voice call and we can say hello to all of our beautiful developers and co-casters here hello there hello in curses how are you I'm doing very well let's go ahead and do a round of introductions for everyone just joining us let's start off with our lovely nose [Laughter] as one of the developers knows that himself will be joining us here on voice calls for the casting and these games say hello to chat hello there chat hey [Music] how's everybody doing hopefully uh everybody's as excited as us oh I certainly hope so as I know if you saw the numbers on the uh stream before there was a uh a fair few waiting around for this activity turns out a little bit of advertising goes a long way and people are into this kind of content hmm well you know high seas is always interesting you know uh the physics of the ships and the different strategies different uh some different weapons yeah it's gonna be fun it's also a nice change you know we've been uh showing a lot of uh moonshot content in the pro league and this is a nice little uh break from that you know to see something different and those also it's Co-op so there's a whole other strategy there as well which is pretty cool oh yes uh I'm incredibly interested to uh I'm incredibly interested in seeing how The Meta changes and such throughout this because it's it's going to be interesting we haven't really had a high seas tournament proper um I mean we've had a few I guess in the back in the past um and you know uh yeah I just I think it's cool yeah it's it's gonna be fun to see uh how everybody plays and uh and see see how the strategies are different to say the moonshot strategies you know so yeah it's gonna and we have um also we have a a bunch of new players this this time um because we opened the uh people could teams could sign up um like just general the general public could sign up to this whereas uh the pro league uh was invite only um and uh so we're gonna see a bunch of new players this time yes and that's I'm I'm into that I I know I know I mentioned this we have this little this little speech every time it's like a talking point to add to this stage where I very very much so enjoy every opportunity for the newer players to come and join these tournaments because it's just exciting to see newer players come and bring what they have to offer and yeah sure every time they get stomped but they come back again and they get better and better until they start winning and it's yep it's an impressive and it's fun to watch that happen it creates a nice story to follow like E10 is a perfect example whereas a day before Eaton even played Forts and yet now he's known as the most prolific and the strongest Ford's player on the field period yep that's right and I'm interested to see who's going to thread their story through this first one but it looks like we are good to go yep I agree so if without further ado let's jump into it shall we just need to make sure the players are ready looks like they are so let's do this and we're off to round one I just want to say I love the new UI and all the HUD elements you guys have put up here even in the loading screen which shows loading status of everyone it's extremely well done it's like everything I've been looking forward to in a uh in a proper loading screen yep I know what you mean it's been satisfying adding this stuff yes but here we have everyone on the left hand side we're back at the action where it is team Greenleaf a team that you may be familiar with because this is a team that was well born in the forts pro league staying together for this Co-op tournament it's vicro andronistian playing as the hurricane Commander they are going to be rushing through their Tech trees rushing through everything because the hurricane Commander's bonuses gives them additional build speed passively across the board be it ammunition be its devices like technology and economy be it weapons everything constructs just a little bit faster and if that isn't fast enough well during their active ability all of their weapons are reloaded twice as fast which is a whole lot of speed for a whole lot of Firepower and they're looking to break it down against their opponents in this mirror match playing of players ghost eagle and Pele are also playing as the hurricane commanders so both teams know what they're all about and they are into it now quick notes Green Leaf they did the thing they dropped their core we've already had a core swing in dreadnoughts and it's been oh boy is it gonna get even better it looks like both teams know how to play this map or at least they know how to play the battleships map though I will say team Greenleaf seems to be a little bit more battleshipy as this map as I I do I do want to say there is there is a map that was created long before the long before the high seas expansion called battleships which is just pretty much this map complete with the size and the triple core except it doesn't have water because it was before water was invented yeah and well this is the it was the inspiration for high seas you know ultimately you know and uh it's awesome to see it in this like I still have a a soft spot for the original battleships although you know them you know these big ships out in in uh in the desert or wherever they are you know it's a little odd but uh and now we get to kind of see the same thing but in actual water with water physics and it uh sort of uh steps it up a notch yes and it's it's fun it's really good and I love that this is the like the devs forts official version of the battleships map the old battleships map and it's it was popular when it was just a player made yeah and it's popular now it's big it's fun to play and these players know how to play it we see the energy production goes in the rear of the explosive ammunition goes near the rear core they have nothing but mineral production metal production across the bottom layer and well things are escalating we even have the the Swarm missile trench in front with Flack and AA going at a tower above it this is this is the standard layout for this map and it's going to get exciting now as much as we can do Canada clock things here most players most teams won't and the reason for that is because there's no significant benefit to slapping a single Cannon shell or even two Cannon shells across a a map this big like the Ford it's just too big it does not go down to one Cannon you need to invest in a lot of Firepower and frankly Canada clock doesn't give you a lot of Firepower so that's not what we're going to see here we're not going to see incredibly early aggression as it's coming up in the Canon o'clock in a good 15 seconds is a good 15 30 seconds from now and we're not gonna see crazy amount of some damage output now mind you team upgrad Sante is going for Mass fire beams which can be both an oppressive offensive tool and more important to this particular round an amazing defensive tool meant for clearing the Skies of all things anti-air the reason for that is they are building a heat ton of well cannons Big Deck guns they're going to have oh boy is it gonna be a gonna be a cat is an absolute cataclysm of Cannon shells raining upon their opponents once they have an opportunity to fire those it looks like they're going to be saving up until they have all three of them fully upgraded before unleashing they're uh unbridled hatred across their opponent's bow but it's for now they're just hitting him with the fire beams because they can for those who have been on the receiving end of this kind of fire beam Madness you'll know that this is incredibly um I'm going to use the word infuriating to deal with just because fire beams well they once they start burning they don't stop burning and then the whole world burns the ground you know they they did start the fire it looks like the fire beams are going to try to keep the skies clear and they well the Cannons weren't particularly well aimed these deck guns but they did fire one volley and then I've been set to upgrade so it will be a while before another volley comes through looks like team Greenleaf is going with the classic nuke spam which is I'm going to say it was the standard strategy for this map for a very very long time just because of how good it is the fire beams with this many fire beams can be particularly effective another bit of this map that I don't see either players or other team you went for there's a tier 3 cannons uh tier three cannons usually make their presence known on this map yep partially because tier three cannons are incredible these are gonna hit oh yeah that's a lot of damage well that's a fire beam down and a hefty repair bill do they get the second fire beam they might very well make it the second fire beam here maybe maybe not that's a lot of fire that is that is indeed a lot of fire they are smoking it's just mostly background bracing it's burning there so it's not like a significant threat to them but it is annoying to deal with for sure as I was saying the fire beam spam incredibly frustrating to deal with every time as Here Comes oh this many fire beams those are those aircraft are not going to make it very far uh they'll cause some damage on the way down but uh yeah yeah as effective as they were hoping no they were looking to just Precision carpet bomb which I know sounds like a paradox right there they're looking to Precision carpet bomb these deck guns and just remove them from play before they had an opportunity to fire but with those fire beams they burned down just shy of every single bomber out of the sky and now there's just not a whole lot of damage output from Team Greenleaf they haven't invested in the substantial amounts of nukes required to fully break oh no a decoy that's something we don't see every day but that could completely shut down team Greenlee if you're upgrade Sante yeah they are absolutely dominant in this particular match so far they have all the counters all the answers to everything the team Greenleaf is looking to do and here come the dead guns after eight and a half minutes of build up team upgrad Sante is looking to return fire and here comes some aircraft of their own making it clean through digging through the fort if a green leaf hadn't swung their core out of position that would have lost one of them already as here comes a thick cloud of Cannon shells directly onto the bridge of Team Green Leaf base there is no Bridge left remaining the top has been I would say chopped off but it's more like been disintegrated by explosive cannon fire the shields there protecting the um Runway which is quite effective there otherwise I think that Runway will be gone yes big shout out to those uh to those oh there's the decoy oh it's trick oh it got shot down it did I was swinging a Miss wow oh boy is this uh oh there's a lot of stuff going on here there's just so much AAA yeah it just doesn't stop those energy Shields coming in clutch keeping their energy production and everything else behind alive that's that's a lot there's a oh boy but look at this team upgrade son says still still almost completely untouched a few scratches here or there yeah but team Greenleaf is struggling every weapon they've chosen so far has been completely shut down I'm curious as to how long is it going to go before epicente decides to get some tier threes in there just to add some additional damage is the joy of tier threes they can be put just about anywhere and they they don't require a line of sight so you can put them behind your course behind their giant Spire of pain and have them fire up and over that aircraft was solely intended to get the AAA to shoot down their own weapons their own projectiles and it almost worked one of greenleaf's cores is down to one percent yeah I'm amazed that things are still alive um had some secondary explosions around that place uh down to one percent remaining uh once it finally goes it's going to take some of the ammo around with it and I don't know I don't think it's going to I think it won't chain react but it will certainly cause some damage as the decoy doesn't grab any of the nukes but there are potentially a second decoy on the way and now two nukes oh let's just get incendiary the aircraft are making it through oh yeah oh they land in the shots this is the kind of damage they were looking to deal the first time around oh oh wow it might uh break in half oh oh no oh not like this the one-wayward fire the ammunition it's all gone oh no it's still oh they've got it hasn't been completely cut into but oh that's a lot of damage that's going to leave up on Sante it's so much pain oh no this is where this is where Co-op is really good because you got somebody repairing and building and somebody's still able to maintain some weapons and some defense yes you know despite all this I don't know whose base looks worse for where I think Team Green these bass still looks more anemic than acrossante's face oh is there oh nice a question from Chad emps work on missiles yes they do an EMP hitting a missile will knock out it's uh what's the word I'm looking for Target targeting yes and it will cause them to fly all over the place but more importantly the weapon that we saw flying from Team apparat Sante was actually a decoy launcher rather than disrupting the targeting it actually hijacks their targeting and causes the missiles to follow the decoy and generally speaking because players are experienced with it they will have that Decoy fly directly back from whence the missiles were launched causing the missiles to follow the decoy directly back to their own launch pads causing generally extreme damage also the tier threes are active and first one has been fired ooh shotguns that's a full clear yep oh oh oh that would have been interesting yes the nukes Land once again but there's not that much commitment to nukes generally speaking when the nuke strategy is used uh it's it's like nine plus a nukes this is just two to do some damage but there's not enough AAA the Air Force it's striking again the deck guns are exposed oh boy is it enough the energy Shield comes online just in time but it's not enough to save everything through the front the nukes finish oh no it's burning again oh no the fire there's a hole where there wasn't before the whole front of their boat has been removed and the sniper comes in to clean it up two out of three deck guns have been destroyed and with it team upgrade Sante has been just shy a completely defend they have one tier three a second one almost complete they're gonna have to rely on a lucky shot from a tier three like yeah sure tier threes are particularly consistent in this map and they're incredibly destructive but this having to rely on a lucky hit hitting something critical is not the world you want to be in but it seems to be their best option at the moment given that they lack well the the air force that deals substantial damage yes they're producing more they're not out of it just yet but they are definitely lacking and outward Firepower with a single deck gun well team Greenleaf has more than enough AAA to consistently bring that down as they're going to have to deal with nuke after nuke foreign well disdain but it's at this point is nothing more than sending a message yep okay so how does team up Carl Sensei react to this well they send another tier three out um it looks like team Greenleaf is finally reacting to these two or threes they have the opportunity to do so now mind you the two or threes have yet to actually be aimed at their opponents so that's not a real threat just yet uh every single tier three round so far has just shy of hit themselves and landed somewhere in between the two the two dreadnoughts the two battleships oh geez Team Green Leaves AAA taking out their own nukes but hey that's a full clear the AAA has cleared everything out of the Skies um a bit better yeah it still looks a bit it's just it's still a bit shallow uh as here comes another wave of aircraft from both sides and here we go this is oh the Kamikaze the aircraft takes damage and goes down into the ship splashing their core team Greenleaf loses their Central core and with it chunks of their AAA letting some more of the upgrad sante's Air Force through oh what's that the French air power chunking Green Leaf Center Point not completely bisecting the chip but leaving it heavily damaged much of their anti-air power has been removed it looks like team Greenleaf will take this opportunity to rebuild it back and probably better as upgrade Sensei does another full defense of those nukes and we have under two minutes left in this battle too which is gonna be so I we might might end up just on damage what would be interesting hmm as we have both teams have exactly 200 percent core HP remaining with 90 seconds left in this match this will actually go down an inch and it looks like because we have the extra stats here oh don't spoil it okay we do have the stats visit we do have the stats available we can pull them up to see who will win but we'll find out when we get to that timer as green leaves Air Force Power does make it through deal some damage oh oh it's close oh but it will just barely hold as teams battleship is uh in a weird hybrid of being both capsized and not capsized at the same time Greenleaf is looking to deal with as much damage as they can 13 seconds left in the match to deal any amount of core damage or to take the lead in damage dealts they're firing everything upcrowd Sensei has no more fire beams to defend against the Air Force and not enough AAA to stop it 15 seconds left and the Final Shots of this match have been fired and there we have it team Greenleaf the aggressors throughout this match winning on damage dealt dealing 191 000 damage that ladies and gentlemen is a lot of damage well done team Greenleaf moving up in this match [Laughter] oh my that was awesome that was very good I'd say I could not have asked for a better starting match here that was amazing and I know that is one of the fan favorite matches fan favorite Maps as well just because of how big it is and it always makes me sad whenever we have to um let it go to timer but I do understand that this is a tournament there are a lot of matches and we have to we have to expedite things but oh it always hurts me when we can't go to the full time with it yeah I know yeah I kind of wanted that to keep going seriously it was so good so good every time I am no longer in your lava correct you'll have to rejoin and what's that mean then interesting if you guys want to see the bracket for yourselves remember you guys can use the bracket command but be careful you may get spoilers as we are on a two minute delay and with that two minute delay comes a bit of potential to see what the results of the match are before they actually start as next up it looks like we're going to be oh gosh it begins ladies and gentlemen I want to say shout out to cabs coming in and rejoining the inclusion for six months everything is on fire shout out to kalijah coming in with that nuclear launch showing us that support nuke trade not today kalijah today today is about the forts and all these great games the sheer amount of metals behind he's got so many badges so many badges he does he has them all right so there's a couple this next match so I do want to shout out I do want to point out shout out strong word not the right word uh point out that there is a bit of a meme going around right now um a brown bar so we're going to see bar be a reoccurring trend uh so just heads up it may get confusing for everyone involved myself especially yeah I also want to point out why is that why is that because there is a new game set to uh there's a new game that's not yet properly released but it is very good and everyone wants me to play it it's a strategy game I'm super into the idea I've already checked it out probably be streaming it at some point but for the time being it is a meme because it is very good game and Everyone likes to shout out and bring attention to the game because it's not currently released on steams it's just not released yet like period so the players who love the game are jump are all trying to uh throw the name around a bit and so we see three teams here that are doing exactly that one of which we have in this particular Lobby and we'll get to them in a moment as we are now jumping into this next round team Han Salah versus team in curses equals bar [Laughter] I will say this I am both how do I want to describe this I am both honored I am both happy like I I feel proud that they would that they would use my logo for this I am also disappointed that they would not be more creative than that I didn't and with the lazy route it didn't even create their own logo but I am in some manner uh complimented that they would be that they would do so as here we have on the right hand side it is you know them you love them it is eaten and Cloud for team in curses equals bar playing as the overdrive Commander overdrive Commander giving access to those sweet sweet tasty upgrade speeds and a little extra Eco and there as their active ability effectively doubles resource production for a short period of time so overdrive Commander good for just general use Eco benefit as well as mostly cheeses that involve upgrading upgrading to uh up well higher tier web upgrading your lower tier weapons into more damage output weapons very very well known for that um is there opponents on this left hand side Han Salah Rick featherman and quackamole playing as the Buster Commander Buster Commander is busted a no the uh Buster Commander is known for being incredibly powerful because it empowers your cannons making them incendiary and also just penetrate that much deeper so it's um it's good it's very good very well known especially for these larger Maps where you could land Cannon shells for very far away and attrition your opponents to death by hitting their core penetrating through all their defenses and igniting everything very good at what it does we're going to see how this match goes now this map in particular I find people have a bit of mixed feelings on not because it's a 1v1 map but because of how large it is I mean this map just like the background is vast and empty and truly gives you the feeling of being on the Open Sea in the way that only the existential dread of being trapped in the open sea can give you true um this also has some substantial limits on the weapons you can field things like mortars just don't make it across the field most projectile weapons like the deck guns and the rockets well they have such a long travel time that there's enough distance to shoot them down 100 of the time so we tend to not see those very much so we tend to see things like lasers which as which for those who may be familiar with high seas lasers and boats tend to not go particularly well because they're very high Precision weapons and at the the basic wobble in the sea that the forts have just for being in the water tends to mitigate a lot of the damage that lasers deal so yes at this range we will see lasers very often most of the time we just see cannons and that's it and at this range cannons aren't particularly precise weapons they will Splash their damage everywhere but they will get consistent Damage Done which is more than you can do with just about any other weapon on this map just due to the size so we will see some limiting factors there now there is one thing that is going to be seen here as both teams are going for this as I'm sure both teams know one of the reasons we haven't seen a whole lot of popularity in the high seas uh DLC is because it's not extremely well balanced one of the motivations for putting on a competitive tournament is to get a good gauge on just exactly how unbalanced things can be and we're going to see an example of such unbalances brought about by both teams here it would seem as forts this size because it allows a lot of ammo and sure you could shoot down some of these some of these aircrafts but can you shoot down 15 of them the answer to that is no and on a fort where your core is at the top and nearly undefendable you need to shoot down just shy of all of them or you're going to explode and that's just not going to happen I suspect given that these teams are just going to be constructing a 10 plus aircraft and sending them across the sky and that's just what's going to happen both teams are doing this strategy the only question I have is will they do anything beforehand will they be sending cannons across the field before just to keep their opponents in check just to slow their opponents down a little bit more will they try to defend against such an attack using some new zany strategy or just phase tanking it enough perhaps some combination of both how will they react to such Madness as I suspect both teams know exactly what's up here both teams have revealed that they're going for aircraft it is no way you're firing at this earlier he's firing it this early okay I think he's just checking to see what's going on here yeah okay no what are you trying to bait the energy Shields before doing a a full volley wow wow lands it okay so typically the way that strategy plays out is you just launch them all at the same time let the enemy defend against the first four and the next five will blow through um I don't think I've ever seen someone specifically hold off and try to bait the AAA one at a time but that was I mean it worked and there you have it team in curses bar just cheaped out and Snipes their core right off the top um there you have it uh sort of a lack of a a going on there uh but you know there were busy building planes yeah I mean usually you don't see you don't see the planes come out quite that early I mean they can come out that early but it's to the point where you assume you won't be able to deal enough damage with that few planes but I mean they snuck it through the point the PD and that's it yep yep I mean they had a they had a a shield but it got overwhelmed you know uh yes they had three of them all three of them got overwhelmed yeah yeah I'm just looking at them so that was that was incredibly well played that was about as a precise and clean as I could have expected from Eaton yep yep that was quick six minutes oh yeah that was incredibly fast like that was very close like they almost didn't uh almost didn't have enough planes to make it through that which that was a risky play but I mean it worked out for them yep if there was just a few extra struts of wood on top of that core it wouldn't have been enough uh you reckon that's a little bit of inexperience happening I don't know I don't think so um Team Han Solo played like they knew what they were doing and they got timing attacks rather than like they got caught off guard by a timing attack rather than um inexperience and sure you can claim you can make the argument that because they didn't see the timing attack coming that they were then therefore it experienced but they were doing the good strategy and got punished for it by someone who did the same good strategy slightly differently yeah that doesn't come off as inexperienced so much as the other player being just a little bit better and being risky with it is like just like two extra struts would have been enough to save them and leave and leave Eaton's team team and curses equals bar to be a completely stuck in the ocean with no weapons where I think the experience is is was the pacing of the of the firing of those planes you know the way they came out they he didn't just Spam them there was a sort of a a Tempo to them which I could imagine was to counter the uh the shields that they had set up yes the uh that is exactly what they did and it was very nice to see that because we don't see that very often and I do want to say this um the timing didn't really work out um if you notice the First Energy Shield came off cool down before the third uh the third aircraft landed which means the timing was sparse enough that it backfired it still worked hmm but it didn't have the effect that it was intended to have as in the first one was basically a waste the second one the second aircraft worked the third one got shut down because the first one didn't work yeah it was it was interesting I'd be curious to see where you know is there a balanced tweak there that would have made that less effective I don't know yeah um yeah I was I was I had I was talking about this I was that was it on the stream I think it was on the stream last time uh that's a whole extra balance this guy should we could have afterward I don't want to start putting my foot in the mouth where it's not needed [Laughter] I know it's a you know especially when we're talking on live air you know you come up with just an instant idea like oh we should try this and then it's just like hey you said that so um like I I just I don't know the answer to that question is the answer yeah I understand I understand well this is you know as you said this is why we're having a high seas tournament um exactly you know give it some more um exposure get some people uh really thinking about it and let's get the suggestions uh flowing and uh you know make these tweaks uh to make it more competitive um you know but the thing is is uh and I don't think that'll still I don't think that'll remove the the the fun because you know it's important that it's fun first and foremost yes I think that's about as well as set as we can make as you can make it and that's that is one thing I will say you guys on forts have as the force devs have done an extremely well just extremely good job of making it fun and I know you've seen the uh what's what is the name of it the odd guy should know the name of the mod a few people have collaborated and put it together like saps and samster and Alex the one with the wheels yes how good is that that is so good it is so well done and it is so it's just hilarious to watch it is hilarious and that's what I like about forts everything about forts is done like that it is fun first it is satisfying the amount of people I have seen come on and say just watching the streams and say hey this is not the kind of game I would like to play this is not the kind of game that I would think I'd be interested in but just watching it happen is so satisfying that they just get sucked into watching that they just can't look away just the sounds and the booming noises the way things crumble it's so satisfying it is so fun to interact with in the sandbox that it is it's just good it's just a good game yeah that's awesome and thank you um yeah it's uh I like you know the game released five what five years ago and we're still going you know it's it's unusual um but I think a lot of it as you're saying about the the wheels is like a lot of what's helped Fort stay relevant is the is the modding community and the work the Steam Workshop and the maps and the mods and you know the craziness oh yes it reminded me of a uh it reminded me of of uh quotes by one of the moderators here that a lot of people get into forts thinking they're going to be playing Angry Birds but instead they find themselves speed running poly Bridge Under cannon fire yes yeah and I think is the most perfect description so that's a great way to great way to put it yeah yes oh gosh but anyways on topic we're offered to this next round we have Team teapots with yo-yoin and Dubai some of the new players here to the uh some of the new players here to the Ford's Pro scene for its tournament scene are playing the hurricane Commander which means we're very very likely to see uh we're very likely to see some more aircraft here as we do have the Runway already under construction I've already completed they're facing off against their opponents team beyond all reason of helicopter and Alex both players very very well known among the community with I will say is uh slightly further ahead in their everything I've got yep your Tech is almost done they've got the upgrade sensor they've got extra layers of tech they built they have all the tech they have their they have more minds or more propellers and more smoke stacks they've got defensive positions already constructed whereas team teapots doesn't have them good to go yet now they're just gonna start throwing down some aircraft and there they are team beyond all reason is playing as the overdrive Commander for those sweet sweet tasty upgrades and as well as a little extra Eco production speed or EcoBoost curious to see uh curious to see how these minor differences will play out note that because teapots is the hurricane Commander they will produce that ammo a little bit faster so they should be able to launch their error assaults a bit quicker that will leave team beyond all reason on the defensive or at least expect to be on the defensive hmm foreign yeah there's not a whole lot going on here uh this is one of the consequences of this strategy uh specifically this aircraft strategy I would say it is a lot more exciting to see this uh aircraft strategy against a team that's not also going the aircraft strategy because this Strat hits at like the nine minute Mark and is just trying to survive until then mind you it isn't super expensive beyond the first Canada clocked standard timings so they can do other things they can also build cannons they can also do other things than just sit there and wait for the aircraft to complete so I'm kind of surprised that we aren't seeing that right now but we aren't seeing it right now so it's just a whole lot of not much going around we do see a little bit more activity from Team beyond all reason uh they are going shotguns or being a little bit more aggressive with things sure a lot of this stuff is AAA and densely packed AAA mind you I mean look at this they're like a half half layering their AAA here putting in deep trenches like this is they're fully intending to defend against as many of these as we can oh here we go oh I think that one was just a check to see if they can oh oh it begins yeah it was a check as oh yep the first volleys go to Team teapots they didn't have enough to break through you teapots you fired too early yeah and soon it will be beyond all reason they should not fire here they should wait they need to wait for their full volley yeah I understand they checked earlier and saw no AAA I understand that they could fire and deal damage but it's not going to be critical damage unless they get a little lucky if they wait just a little bit longer they can cause is that two aircraft constructing simultaneously why how I'm confused okay um if you upgrade them only ah yes at this point they should have enough to wipe out team teapots here I would say so oh I was gonna say where's the rest here we go oh so very close or just about one shy away from breaking them down yep okay well there we have it the upgraded Runway allowing construction of two aircraft simultaneously is going to increase their throughput extremely quickly yeah and that's uh that's gonna deal a lot of damage gonna deal a lot of damage now at this point due to the amount of damage to team and teapots to sustained they're not going to be able to upkeep a lot of this damage output yes team teapots will be able to fire any amount of anything but it won't be enough to deal Game ending damage while team beyond all reason you can just kind of do this again and there we have some extreme damage with the runway being completely destroyed he's trying to use machine guns instead of the sniper it's not working it's like one hit away from that going off or maybe more than one hit there it is oh Lord it feels so bad to be team teapots right now struggling to have the economy to reconstruct because that was just such an incredible amount of damage that the time it takes to rebuild will be probably longer than the time it takes beyond all reason to re-arm and that's that's not the world you want to live in not for anyone team teepas tried to invest in some AA but with all of these shotguns well I guess team beyond our reason only has one forward-facing shotgun anymore hey look we're finally getting a cannon of Team yellow dog reason because they can oh boy machine gun around machine gun or violence as here comes another round of aircraft although this is not intended to be lethal I think I'm not sure what the Checkmate strategy of beyond all reason is um they seem to not be gearing up for a lethal strike so much as just dealing additional damage they may be intending to rely on these cannons to push them over the edge or they may simply be attempting to drain team teapots by slamming them over and over and over again and so they don't have the money to rebuild which the death spiral Strat usually works pretty well mind you aircraft the aircraft strategy is very good at not getting death spiral because these aircraft they're quite cheap to build so if you could have any amount of Eco building up or for any amount of time you will be able to construct those aircraft and Bank them up and then get a massive volume which is what team teapots is doing right now and should be able to send flying in a moment should they desire yeah here they go oh oh no oh shame oh here we go there they go they managed to correct their mistake after the first few but you could see they managed to dig through the defenses but not touch any of the juicy innards if they had just a little bit more just those first three planes would have been enough to break that Runway and this match would look very very different right now a simple little mistake like that is enough to make the difference here as team beyond all reason is now Fielding that Cannon and with the cannon comes pretty much Unstoppable Firepower I'm kind of surprised to see Team beyond all reason not aiming for their production in the rear trying to hit all that energy production all those smokestacks um drain them with the planes yes the Jets the warthogs Oh shot there's the lethal shot okay yeah it's uh not in one piece anymore nope there it goes one Cannon Street the foundations and there we have it team beyond all reason winning this round quite decisively well done well done so I want to say shout out to kalijah Anderson coming in with the everything is on fire Torpedoes win a question from chat Torpedoes win oh no I'm pretty sure somebody's probably made a mod for that already I haven't I haven't actually seen one I haven't actually looked and the reason I haven't looked is I don't really want one from a mechanic's perspective um mechanically they don't play well is they would perform similar to nukes do yeah nobody wants that yeah and I mean what are they gonna do just like come up from underneath and be completely undefendable like yeah like that's not that's not a fun mechanic as thematic as it is it's too real man hmm yeah but you know I'm sure like I said there must be a mod that does it then explores what that gameplay would be like yes which is the beauty of mods it is and there's so many mods like I do not keep up with them all oh yeah so uh real quick feedback because I can because I got you here and you're trapped here with me now every time I select a 2v2 map it changes or a player joins it changes the game type from whatever it was to Team Deathmatch Badness I have to call a bug that's a new one too you know uh game development is a little bit like playing what's that game is it Jenga where you you pull on one thing and other things break oh yes yeah this is what happens and I've been doing a bit more programming myself lately and I'm experiencing this uh just all the time now and it's maddening literally put one thing in that makes this new thing awesome and then you play an older part of the game and oh why is that happening it's acting completely weird and it's because the new thing you added that's really cool breaks the old thing yep every single time it never stops not sure it's the never-ending cycle a quick question because I don't actually know the answer to this uh the cursors have they I know we mentioned wanting to make them smooth has that been done because I haven't played that mechanic no it has not been done okay I believe it's on our list uh but um yeah I actually don't know the status of that one but I I haven't seen it as a high priority item okay although it's one of those things that every time I see it I'm like oh it'd be nice if that was better okay all right there okay so it looks like everyone is here and good to go as you'll be jumping into the next match momentarily and we're off team Commando bar versus Team zavadovi laughs and we're off ladies and gentlemen here we that's the wrong mode oh my God Jason Naomi rejoined all right give us one second so close yep let's go all right is when Naomi rejoined it reset the game I was just talking about that I was literally just talking about that yep noted mm-hmm it's yeah it's not even that big a deal it's just annoying oh yeah mostly because I it's new and I don't have it ingrained in me to check it this is one of those interesting uh hybrid Maps yes I like hybrid Maps I like them a lot it gives a whole lot of variety that you don't otherwise get um uh as here we have on the right hand side it is team zavado uh two newer players both see the game and the Comm and the competitive Community uh lishney and web Cannon for those familiar with this verbiage these are polish players which is always exciting one thing I do like uh well fool me because it makes things a little bit more interesting is the players have been focusing a little bit more on bringing country memes to their teams and such the French players being aggressively French the Polish players being notoriously polish V dish players being extra Swedish so forth so long it's always a good time it just it throws at a little extra diversity that you don't otherwise get makes it it's like it's actually fun just to see the bands are back and forth uh but team zavado is playing as the warthog Commander warthog Commander what are the more popular commanders in the game uh known for heavy weapons because it empowers heavy weapons during their active ability but heavy weapons hit that much harder so we expect to see things like cannons and lasers and not much else because cannons and lasers very strong as they're facing off against their opponents another bar but this time Commando bar playing as the hurricane Commander racing up that Tech Tree hitting the upgrade sensor along the way already three quarters of the way done with their energy laser energy energy production energy weapon production facility Jesus words I try to come up with all these fancy long linguistic tongue twisters and sometimes they twist my own tongue um hey you know everyone's got someone to root for well looks like we're going for some fairly standard oh I see okay so I was wondering what they were going to do with the hurricane Commander I figured it out it's the it's the laser beams the space laser space laser is both good and bad on this map yes there is a there are holes for the space laser to hit through the top standing Fort or hanging Fort the holes really don't do that much um it helps it makes it somewhat vulnerable what it doesn't do is it it doesn't solve the problem they oh it's still easy to defend against that makes the space laser a little bit a little bit not good on this map however due to the relatively close distance between the two boat forts uh this base laser is just game almost game breaking levels of good versus the boat forward so oftentimes we'll see players on this map go for the space laser just to remove the boat forward and then apply pressure to the hanging Fort because once you remove the boat forward I mean then it's 2V1 and it kind of it's kind of hard to lose in that position also quick tip a quick note zabadovi lost their Canon production facility while it was almost completed due to its um colliding with the ceiling after adjusting their Fort which is not something I expected to see given this position but something you learn every day also team zabadovi is just floating metal all over the place not really constructing I guess now they're throwing on Extra metal in places to stop the floating but going with the double swarm missile launcher into what will be cannons is going to be an interesting strategy as here comes the end yep introducing oh introducing it's my friends photons from space and with that team zabadovi loses a significant chunk of their forward most base the boat Fort is uh uh boat forts a little less boats and a little less Fort than it once was yeah looks like taichu sitting on the standard the classic the fire beam Plaza beam combo looking to penetrate just a little bit deeply of course being a hanging base that's physically attached to the ground it doesn't have a lot of the wobble issues so it can sit there and focus its fire mind you what they don't seem to have is any manner of energy production um so team Commando bar here I just can't fire their weapons which they probably should have thought about before trying to fire their weapons hmm oh boy now they have enough energy fire beam Plaza beam and that's it there goes that okay zabadovi now has two boat forts which they can actually build a boat here by the way like because it's in the water they can they can build a boat mind you they're behind some uh some Earth as well so yeah so that's gonna be quite the shot to make uh I hope they hope they Rescue It I mean they totally can I don't know why they're not trying um why aren't they I don't I don't know I guess maybe they don't know they can insult Salvage it yeah that's interesting that is one of the interesting bits about this map there's a few maps that do this where if your core Falls from its previous position it just lands in the water and you can turn it into a boat which is incredibly fun and cool to do and not something you generally have the option to do because the enemy team will just kind of blow you up uh they okay the core is rotating and they need to protect it oh okay I think I figured out why they're not I think they don't know that you can use that you can rotate your for the uh boat Fort uncapsize it by yeah building on building on it uh they're trying to they tried to use the candid recoil to fix it and they almost did but I really wish somebody should just give them another tank oh no I can't I can't that says too good like come on do it guys yeah they're totally trying to use the recoil to right side it just just builds you could do it oh there they go they figured it out they may have overcompensated a little bit I don't know oh no oh that's oh that might do it oh they'll get it sooner or later hey there it is they'll they'll get it I mean they can't even use the can in that position he's never going to be used without a portal all right they they write it there they go yeah build a whole boat go for all oh okay okay here comes here comes yeah that's got it for sure all right so uh unfortunately uh their last remaining boat doesn't have any economy whatsoever um the the reactor it's gonna give them their base income which is plus four metal and a shot but not anymore it's not uh it's a great shot it was a very good shot just turning that rocket around the corner they need to all right so the core is technically exposed to the water because it's not surrounded by wood and therefore it it melts yeah it the chorus melts in the Water by the way so you never let them never leave them expose the water oh [Laughter] [Music] that would never get old see here so basically The Usual Suspects have gone on to the next round yes everyone we expected to win has won and they will be staying in the upper brackets of course the this is a double elimination so correct everyone still has at least one life left as we go down to the lower bracket yeah yeah next up it looks like it will be team teapots versus zavadovi yep oh my and on this map yep bit of visual drama yes all right then wait are we doing oh no this is this is upgrade Sunset versus Han Solo okay oh I see yeah we're staying doing it out of order well it's it's the order as defined by uh Challenger mode I suppose Challenger mode says match nine is next matched by his teapots versus yeah it doesn't matter it truly doesn't matter he's deciding to see him's ID orders and I do that's fair enough like it yeah yeah it really doesn't matter to us Match six is what this is yeah so I guess yeah we'll probably makes sense um we'll be coming back to the lower rounds um after the next two matches which are the upper rounds yes yeah I'd rather jump between okay so 42's calling it and we're off actually good time to do a shout out to 42 who's been so busy organizing all these tournaments for us yeah always doing a great job he's actually an official member of our team now which is really nice so so I saw the announcement congratulations to 42 scientists Jordan the Ford's Community oh God that Co-op bye this is going to be the plague yes you know at least at least it's known about and can be fixed it's really not that big a deal in this situation yes it's just it's mildly annoying is what it is so what were we saying about our friend 42 we were we were praising 42 for being good at being 42 scientists and helping everything and putting all this stuff together because the cat hurting is hard and we appreciate 42 for doing it that's right yeah no he's awesome he's been a member of the community for ages and uh yeah it's nice to have him as a official member of the team yes all right well and we're up to the next round is here we have on the left hand side it is team Han Salah here in the lower bracket this is the elimination match 20 minutes on the clock and Winner Takes all the victor of this match will move on and the defeated the destroyed will be eliminated from this tournaments as this is the lower bracket both teams have already lost one of their lives in this double elimination format so they were fighting for their chance to continue on in this competition as rich featherman and guacamole of Team Han Sola are playing as the warthog Commander War Dog Commander notorious for its empowered heavy weapons we typically see a lot of cannons and lasers when dealing with the warthog Commander because during the active ability those two tools become extra powerful they become empowered dealing counter-intuitively grossly large amounts of damage and um it's just it's just good it's popular for that reason like it's it's a good time all around does a lot of damage can't go wrong with it and they intend to feel that damage is centered directly at their opponent's team upgrade Sante playing as the Buster Commander similar theme to warthog gets empowered heavier it gets empowered cannons specifically during their Commander's active ability but instead of being just generally empowered instead they become incendiary and gain some extra damage penetration so they'll be able to penetrate deep and ignite everything along the way while not being quite as large and quite as upfront in their Devastation uh the Buster Commander does this kind of Unstoppable damage because even if you put a whole lot of metal in front of it it's just gonna do the AP sniper thing and go clean through it and then ignite everything along the way which is incredibly difficult to handle now I do want to point out that there's a couple unusual things about this map one the boats are huge like look at this look at this Chalker of a boat uh two there's two chords and an interesting thing about this map about these boats as they are the cores are far enough apart that if one explodes the other doesn't go with it at least not directly mind you the explosion of the core tends to be large enough that it can destabilize the structure of the entire boat you can get capsizing and stuff but the second core will not directly explode due to the explosion to the first so losing one core is not the end of it all however it usually if you lose a chords usually because something terrible has happened and if something that bad has happened that this chances of your second core being safe from whatever Canada runs your incoming probably not ever but it isn't possible and it is something that the team has happened to plan for foreign is going with the aircraft strategy with a side of deck gun which is what I usually expect from teams going for the aircraft strategy as because the aircraft is not particularly expensive it's more of a Time investment than a resource investment you do have the opportunity to expend your resources on other weapons such as deck guns that's exactly what we're seeing here doing the exact same thing except they're actually investing fairly heavily I'm going to say investing primarily into deck guns and just casually getting aircraft along the way though I do want to point out team of Carl de Sensei does have does have the upgraded aircraft's production facility so they will be producing two aircraft at a time which is uh yeah it looks like both teams actually have the upgrade so we're going to see a heavier investment out of Team Han Solo into the aircraft and a heavier investment in deck guns in team up called Sensei but both of which investing heavily into aircraft and there we go oh not quite enough to break them but here comes a deck gun it's not enough see this is why the whole carefully firing and trying to bait a a thing doesn't work the AAA fired and came off cooldown three times in that so just fire everything to minimize the amount of a a and then you just punch through with raw Firepower right yep the strategy that seems to work best is not try to bait a a with your warthogs you just overwhelmed them with a sheer amount of warthogs and slam into them with a fist of warthog yeah yeah that's that's the winning shred players are trying to get cheeky with it and it's costing them their warthogs Eaton got cheeky with it and it worked yeah yeah you are not um upgrade Sante their logo is what like an upgrade Center on a truck it looks like what does this means if I understand is like Medic or health like Medic or healing or doctor or something on the lines okay uh so I'm pretty certain that's an upgrade Center on the back of an ambulance yep fair enough it's like uh Santa in German I like it um I don't know if you remember this map in uh this map in uh well sorry the background in campaign yes everyone remembers that one yep and something comes out of the volcano semi-regular bases yes yes it does that's a tier three oh yeah oh look it's a classic tier three hmm that's something I both have expected to see regular use of and expected to see none of in this tournament and I didn't know which was I didn't know which would be which the thing about tier threes is due to the way that the economy Works in boats uh tier threes are nearly Unstoppable and deal incredible amounts of damage oh this is uh a swing and a miss is what this is yeah yeah I mean oh hey hey there we go there we go oh geez that's that's gonna be massive yeah this second course survived for a moment whatever that's worth oh the tier three that's amazing cuddle up the physics oh look at this counter the final defiant shot of the tier 3 coming back to haunch them oh geez that was a good shot it was a very good shot oh no sizzling reactors and there you have it I've crossed sensei coming in with and coming with an entire American Air Force worth of warthogs destroying a core with some delicious Overkill I wonder if this will nah unless they oh they might they might have enough of it there it is nice counter oh two cores and unfortunately for team upgrad every weapon every actual weapon they had was in that rear Fork yeah oh these guys have fire beams so it's down to support weapons Now versus you know at the Air Force yeah it's a bit one-sided Sunday Titan german yes uh so this does leave an interesting bit uh of crowd Sante I think has I mean they just have more here do they have is that true like they've got better eco they've got better defenses for sure but they don't have as damage output weapons so they're trying to at this point use their fire beams and use their harassment and suppression weapons to delay Han Solo while they get their own yeah I mean if they take out that uh that Runway I don't know if they will though it'd be very difficult to see where they're making and making an attempt but yeah I mean Han Solo here without their rear ship they're getting bullied they're definitely getting bullied but they can just kind of fire their Air Force again whereas team upgrads solante can't do that um there's a bit of flashing going on on upgrade Sante as well so a shift in um weight or structure might snap those yes however they do have their stability Tech in place so I'm not too concerned about that that was a bad shot that was definitely just intended to uh beat AAA or check to see the status of things they certainly found out that AAA exists oh geez you know honestly against builds like this tier threes are unironically powerful very powerful especially against builds like this and I'm both surprised and not surprised that we don't see them oh oh it hurts so much team upgrad what have you done oh there's that snap you were there's that snap you were mentioning something something shifted oh yeah it did oh these guys all right well both teams have expanded their Air Force yep and with it uh there's not a whole lot left to worry about um really both teams are relying entirely on their Air Force to solve the problem for them and while it did damage they kind of mitigated each other quite heavily all right what is okay that's a [Applause] okay this is uh I don't know what I expected I didn't expect that that's for sure the fire beams are about completely shut down at this point there's just nothing going on with those there's energy Shields everywhere there's metal everywhere sure Han Solo has taken substantial damage on their course down to a total of 89 spread between the last two cores um is not taking any damage in the remaining course at all and their Fort is thick like dummy thick with an entire two beaches worth of sandbags around they've got more aircraft in production they've got cannons in production is that Kenneth I think there's just one cannon not Canon's plural I probably want Canon's plural but haven't quite afforded that yet their defense budget isn't quite so high oh wow all right let's talk about over penetration by kamikaze I don't think I'd see that one and again again okay oh that was a good shot yeah there's that Cannon empowered with incendiary and penetration just cuts real deep that's the kind of uh unavoidable damage that upgrad's son says look and see utilize that hurt the core it did one of the Han Solo's lower cores down to 27 which is not much percent the double snipers well that internal energy Shield causing problems to their forward Runway as it's reflecting the fire beam into it a second time don't think I've ever seen that before how's the aggressively placed uh laser tech building I mean it's intact which is a surprise to me given the context but there it is I mean where else are you gonna put it in this space this place is a disaster oh boy oh boy their list they're uh trimming their ship a bit yeah giving trying to give them the angle to fire those aircraft launch them up up and above to avoid this situation exactly there it is all right target has been painted and it's time yeah death destruction via the Air Force well done team upgrade victorious in this match knocking their opponents out of the round Han Solo has been eliminated from this competition foreign and well played big shout out to Cavs coming in and showing support inverted Fort ship subships hey we get to 11 Shad fruit cabs coming in with that support thank you thank you their defense budget may not be high but their texture is oh no uh all right so next up we should have team teapots versus coming up here in a moment Windswept [Music] foreign matches made teams are ready so we'll be starting up in a moment uh yep wrong Co-op just need Naomi to ready up there we go time's up let's do this as we go into the next round [Music] and wear off ladies and gentlemen welcome to the rainstorm as here we have on the left hand side is team zabadobe the Polish team getting themselves set up with the warthog Commander warthog Commander very well known for its heavy weapons and immense Firepower we could expect to see some cannons and some Canada clock style timings around these parts as they're facing off against the report its team at teapots teapots playing as the warthog Commander warthog Commander known for its build speed and ammo production capabilities a very popular Commander when utilizing the when utilizing the aircraft strategies I am curious to see how this match will work out given the information we know so far hmm on this particular map you may notice the boats start off a bit small by comparison to the other Maps it's a bit more something along the lines of a vanilla level of info our vanilla level of resources which means that we're going to have a little bit slower of an early game with potential openers for um some early game harassment won't be seeing that phase necessarily skipped although given the commander selection I definitely suspect there's not gonna be much in the way of any kind of cheese going around here and we have some of our sort of uh uh multi-tiered water going on here on this one which is always uh an interesting thing to look at conceptually yes yes it is it is certain it feels weird but game mechanically it's very satisfying ah yeah that's a good point 42. it's the currents coming from the deep pushing up through those fissures it's raining it's just a temporary puddle which we built a very long and permanent nuclear report in nuclear boat in the propellers aren't really going to get you anywhere oh no no guys speaking of forts uh this map does feature expansions the uh the boat forts can actually extend themselves up and physically connect to the land where they can get access to some land-based technologies such as mines and wind turbines and in doing so they will attach themselves to the land root them in place and give them the ability to really stabilize their boat in case the player is looking to go for things like lasers although unsurprisingly given the warthog choice for teams of adobe we see cannons we see cannons uh we're going to pause for a moment because it looks like player having some lag are they disconnected and they are now reconnected so we'll give that a moment yep foreign all right one of the joys I will say this when you guys first implemented that feature that feature it was that's just one of the best features ever it's just is there's always these connectivity issues you know it's still a ho it's still a peer-to-peer game some something's gonna happen somewhere just the ability to rejoin is so good oh yeah yeah that's a credit to b-man um which is uh like diligent never-ending quest to fix all the desyncs and connection issues and there has been a lot of them yes a lot of fixes that is uh over the years and yeah and now it's pretty solid I know you and I have been casting tournaments and had a few train wrecks in the past you know with stuff like that that you know we you know um b-man just uh was diligent and persevered and fixed fixed these issues so yeah now we can it's just uh you know minor annoyance now when somebody disconnects and they can reconnect and resume where they were you can imagine what's going on in coding land to make that all happen smoothly oh I I can imagine and I'd prefer not to oh geez well it looks like team looks like Ken the clock has come and with it uh well team zavadovi hasn't really built much in the way of AAA and team teapots knows it so they're going to be sending their aircraft to do a bit of an airstrike not a whole lot of damage to that airstrike coming in at at about the five minute Mark rather than the typical eight minute-ish it's not perfectly well refined but eight minutes ish timing where you get lethal amounts of damage of an airstrike uh they're gonna do some work but it's not gonna break anything where his team's abadovi is responding with empowered cannons and is causing some serious deformation to team teapot's forward base yeah that's chunky that's real chunky team teapots is kinda sort of retaliating and kind they have their own Cannon available of course focusing more on the aircraft than on the Canon they do have a cannon but it's not their primary weapon as it were unfortunately their primary weapon is currently reconstructing ammo yes here comes a cannon shot out of Team teapots does it do anything critical no but it does deal some damage which is more than they would otherwise have Tim Tebow's using that incendiary mortar to try to bait AAA and check the status of things looks like they're finding out pretty hard that there's notable amounts of a a on the field as zavadovi's cannons are actually getting really deep and dealing critical damage to teapot's forward most boats down to 45 remaining uh Team teapots cannot take this kind of damage for substantially longer amounts of time um I mean teapots they're firing a cannon but they need the additional time to reconstruct all those aircrafts and team zav Adobe with their empowered cannons are not having it the aircraft just getting shot down out of the sky looks like it may be enough [Music] oh oh yeah there it is exposed core oh Tim zabadovi loses one of their cannons in the forward most Fort their Cannon oh almost with the Finish yeah that was uh offensive uh swarm missiles you're telling me that Cannon would have finished off the core with the forward core down to five percent even the tiniest of Splash damage can figure can finish this off there is uh there's really really not much in the way of HP left on zabado's forward fort um unfortunately zavadovi did lose their cannon in the forward Fort which means that there's that much less damage output available for them mind you their rear Fort now has two cannons which is a lot which is not a lot of Canon but it is enough Canon to deal some good damage and they're trying to aim for the rear base and succeeding kind of a little bit of over penetration hitting somewhere with it didn't necessarily need to but of course team teapots as they're relying on the aircraft simply have to wait to reconstruct refuel and re-arm before they can actually get any damage done and return in kind oh boy if the second Cannon hits that same position team teapots may be in trouble it did not did not I like how they've built a tech gun on land over there yes I'm kind of surprised to see it be a deck gun rather than another Cannon because the only weapon that goes better with cannons than cannons is is more cannons as this may just be it yeah yeah there we have it not a full not a full death Fleet but just a Precision strike setting those cluster Munitions all over zap adobe's lower Forts and with it goes the Swarm missiles and all Eco available to them oh clean through the defenses of Team teapot that Cannon does nine percent damage to the rear base another overpen taking out a piece of antier along the way but not doing enough to really break oh no oh shot they didn't double door no team Zab Adobe did not double door their cannons and rip it it cost them everything losing every single weapon it looks like team zabadovi is conceding and surrendering and there it goes team teapots is Victorious knocking team zabadoli out of this tournament well done well done all right do you want to say shout out to kalijah coming in with the everything is on fire everything is always on fire has a question a question from Chad any plans to allow the boats to actually move there are some maps where they can move um that although you use your your weapons to propel you I'm sure you can imagine the map I'm thinking of with the uh with the whirlpool in the middle of it oh yes that one I like that map because it's fun yeah it's a lot of fun it's a lot of fun um but obviously it adds total chaos in in the concept of multiplayer and you know we don't have uh ships colliding with each other which would then if we did that would be chaotic as well um you know so um yeah they don't purposely move but they you know they do drift and and I think in even in the campaign we do a little bit of you know the cheating of positions so to speak you know shifting things a little bit actually you know there's a couple ones there where your ship actually moves now I think of it where you go to um escape the Giants yeah ship eating ship yes that's that's a good one but yes to my knowledge there isn't anything significance around moving boats like it's possible it's just not particularly commonplace yeah it's like but why though as fun is it's doable but people just aren't super into it it's a good way to describe it's a good way to describe it also shout out to crazy moose coming in and rejoining the incursion for 30 months now that's a long time congratulations you pregame Dex has told the beautiful emotes here on the channel as well as a special access role on Discord but you knew that already says it's the cruiser from the end of the second hand Lions not everyone get that but you're sure someone is laughing hello hello crazy moves coming in again now we need submarine forts oh no that's what flying forts are for but underwater as we're getting set up for the next match bit of a cat hurting going on yes I think he's interact what is it with the tournament competitors and starting ranked matches five minutes before they're okay okay he's back uh it's fine it's fine everyone's here yep all right co-op mode everybody oh just ready up everybody yeah okay rip the Polish team oh no yeah I'm sad about the Polish team I as someone whose family is Polish I I have a soft spot for polish makes sense so I I like having the opportunity to pronounce polish things no it sounded pretty Legit To Me you know I was gonna say I I doubt that highly because one thing I've learned from my fam one thing I've learned from my family um polish words are unpronounceable especially if you're trying to read them um but you know what I will try it it's not going to stop me from trying and we're on everybody's favorite map hill hill boat yeah oh God the map with the smallest boats and the most indestructible Terrain it's well this is what they gotta deal with now I think we know what everyone's gonna do here and it rhymes with planes it's planes good Lord plain to see oh God it's thank you guys thank you you're so incorrigible uh once a dad always a dad it doesn't stop [Laughter] my God all right all right all right so here we have on the left hand side we have the first half of this Prestige match it's Team Green Leaf vicro-endronistian playing as the pinch fist Commander they're looking to rush they're looking to go quick they're looking to speed their way to Victory they're playing against their opponent's team in curses equals bar Eaton and Cloud are playing as the warthog not warthog hurricane Commander with that bonus build speed It's gotta be plants they're going for planes I'm calling it now the only question is who does it first and who does it better oh no no not like this you're not gonna play this one oh they're not going planes what are they going to do they're gonna fight fire with F at least you at least this is a well practiced cheese it would seem okay but they've revealed that they're going Mass mortar and their opponents are reacting this is going to be an 8 pm an APM fight where they throw actions at each other and it just turns into a scrap who clicks faster yep this is exactly the fight that Eaton loves to have 100 of the time this is this is just fun for eating here like she's like oh no you're doing this I'm so happy you're playing this right now this is everything I could have possibly hoped for and I'm all here for it as team Greenleaf is using what is my favorite strategy it is the mass motor Madness and team in curses equals bar is on the defensive appropriately going for Mass machine Gunners and getting a a tower sniper to try to reach down and touch those those mortars but there's a giant Hill in the middle which prevents direct fire from things like the sniper uh if they could get that sniper a little bit higher they might be able to get a shot almost but it's not quite there just yet so far the motors have been near completely shut down by the AAA and just the line of machine Gunners out of Team bar on the right side and it's doing they're doing pretty well with it uh oh boy there's the Thing Once one mortar makes it through and takes out a machine gunner that's one fewer machine gunner which means every other motor beyond that has a better opportunity a better chance to make it through and that's how it spirals it starts off with one getting through and then the others start to get through and then it just gets worse from there the question I have is how will Greenleaf move on from this as much as the mortars are kinda sort of doing things they're not doing enough more importantly team bar isn't having to spend enough on rebuilding that it prevents them from continuing to proceed in their build order meaning team bar will be able to get weapons out they'll be able to get planes out as it seems they are trying to do yes and Team Green Leaves mortars aren't stopping them So eventually team bar will just kinda sort of win and that's what's gonna happen so in an effort to stop that team Greenleaf needs to be either ramping up the motors to get even more mortars or they need to get a follow-up weapon of their owns something like cannons yep there's a lull here so of course team Barr says you dare mortar against us we will murder you back yeah which isn't there's no AAA on the other side Yep this is a very eaten thing to do yeah this is about as each stereotype beaten As It Gets I I love it makes me happy yep there it is here we go Warriors oh and one of these nice and that's gonna be it right surely yep I like how the incendiary Motors didn't actually do anything but they were just there it's like hey you dare motor us no no no we are the ones who murder and then blew them up the irony good Lord I love to see this strategy I could I saw just because I know how these players work I saw that one coming the moment the mortars went down I love to see it anyways because it's still my favorite strategy that was that was good I I liked that one I like that match a lot yeah as decidedly one-sided as it was it was pristine in all the ways it was just like a perfect chess match all the steps were planned out from the start and I could just see it all happening right there and they did it that was good as we get set up for this next match remember this these are the upper bracket matches so players who lose these matches they lose a life but are not eliminated they simply move on down to the lower bracket where they have an opportunity to do so again another big shout out to Crazy booths coming in with the everything is on fire and curses you're correct they're launching flaming Kamikaze Fighters yes [Laughter] oh no so who do we have next here we've got uh is it beyond all reason versus uh command beyond all reason versus beyond all reason yes [Music] that that is those are the teams sun and oil I like that map [Music] foreign they want you to play beyond all reason we get the boy to give it away all right wheel mod on a water map that would work Seafood you know I have no idea how that would work it may actually yeah I don't know if they've made it react with the water or not that would be it'd probably just just crash the moment to touch the water [Music] all right need Alex to ready up okay and opposed to be writing up momentarily and then we'll be jumping into the next match there we go there it is and we're off ladies and gentlemen welcome to this totally not a mirror match where we have on the left hand side team beyond all reason Alex and helicopter players you know players you love playing as the overdrive Commander overdrive Commander as we have seen is quite popular with the strategy of well going for Mass aircraft because the overdrive Commander lets you get out not only additional income but faster upgrades on the on the um Runway with the runway production able to get even more aircraft on the field faster it means you can get more Eco and more aircraft sooner than later getting that massive Damage Done potentially even faster than the eight minute mark and just end the game outright or at least destroy a boat take it entirely down with its single airstrike these players they're playing against their opponents team Commando bar it is team bar versus Team bar but this time team bar is playing as the hurricane commander hurricane Commander another popular Commander for anything for anything ammo related such as the aircraft the reason for that is they gain additional build speed across the board including for things such as the aircraft I'm trying to figure out what their logo is their logo is a forts a boat fort with beyond all reason units around it yeah right okay that makes sense [Music] this is what it is okay so at the moment it looks like all teams are just actually team Commando bar is looking to be a little aggressive this is a strategy we've seen used on this map a fair few times uh because this map starts with a few a few aircraft you can entirely like the two and a half minute Mark Just Launch them at your opponent and deal damage it seems that team beyond all reason on the left was prepared for that exactly and does not intend on repaying the favor but instead utilizing the initial boats to uh increase their eventual Armada as they blacken the skies or their own aircraft but both teams are also going for secondary weapons we do see some deck guns for the team on the left whereas the team on the right going for standard cannons of course these weapons are not the primary expenditure of resources but with it they do they will be able to apply some manner of pressure to their opponents potentially catch them off guard or just deal damage to slow them down what do you think of that strategy of using those planes early on um it's something I tend to do a lot um it this isn't the only map that comes with planes already stationed on it yeah and the reason I like it is a vast majority of the time people just don't utilize them they aren't expecting planes at the two and a half minute mark because why would you hmm and so we can get some real damage done it's very rare that it destroys the core it's possible if the opponents don't cover the core at all it's possible but it's very rare um it's a strategy that tends to not work particularly well against better players as better players will see it coming and defend against it yeah just because of the opportunity for it to happen so it's not something we see commonly but it does happen and yes we do see a portal tier 3 coming out of Team coming out of the right side team here oh boy they're making it through there's a lot of misses it's a lots of Misses um and um they launched all those and barely even hit their opponents like at all and uh in that the tier three managed to land a hit on the rear core of the left team now this is something that I wanted to mention before tier threes against boats are just incredibly good like better than they are against non-boat Forts and the reason for that is mechanically uh the energy production facilities specifically these smokestack devices have to be exposed to the air they can't be covered from the top like turbines are which means tier threes can always hit them which means there's a vulnerable spot on the boat period from the air oh just like that exactly like that well timed yes this is a perfect example now because Eric there's secondary things tier threes are also like a anti-med like a counter meta pick because tier threes are good at hitting these exposed and vulnerable locations um they're also good at hitting the locations where the ammo is stockpiled meaning you can cause it ammo explosion very very easily with the tier three yeah it just makes it quite the strong weapon like an unironically strong weapon and a reasonable first choice for weapon choices for weapon selection when dealing with high seas and boat forts there's definitely you know a reason why we made the uh the planes the Jets win as as ammunition in the in your ship you know like obviously they can cause a great deal of damage when they're on offense but there are also a liability to have stored in your boat yes they are very explosive yes yes they are and it's uh something that things like the tier three Prey Upon yeah sure tier threes are just comically inconsistent and not really good at dealing damage but when they land that critical hit against boats that critical hit is often just Game ending which is it makes them an actual threat whereas in these standard forts they're not so much an actual threat um so we have another tier three which I assume is targeting the rear Forge once again um because apps is saying uh that his wheel mod um does in fact work with water oh that's funny given the Jesus treatment it just uh floats above they just roll over the water uh-oh the airstrike yeah America the entire rear components of the red team's rear Fort is just gone with it the tier 3 goes as well as the Eco the technology and any aircraft that were set up in that position set up in that location that that was a lot damage getting that reload speed increase for team the right side team left side team getting a bit of an eco boost out of their own both teams activating their Commander abilities I'm noticing that team beyond all reason on the left just floated that entire time during their activation which is not usually all you want that to go but they will be reconstructing their aircraft thank you oh that's not much AAA coming out of a red team here well the shot couldn't save okay oh that went deep though that went straight in there yeah if that shotgun didn't clear out those two shots all three of those would have landed in that spot and that would have been bad that would have been very bad okay um I think red team here is relying entirely on their aircraft to get damage done and they just don't have enough aircraft to do that they actually don't have aircraft in production I think they're still reeling from that airstrike they sustained and just haven't quite gotten their boat back together at all because of it they also aren't reconstructing they also aren't reconstructing their aircraft which is a mistake uh time is not on their side and they need to be continuing on with that mind you these cannons are doing pretty good damage they are I mean I suppose they're focusing on rebuilding their economy that that they most certainly are yes there's no reason they can't do both true there is two of them okay red that blue team here on the left again utilizing their Commander ability to give them some extra resources oh boy now where are these aimed uh this one oh this is going to be bad yeah the energy Shield saves them oh just oh it's not enough just a few too many aircraft and with it red team loses their forward but it's mind you therefore a boat wasn't their primary I guess it was their Runway but they could rebuild the runway pretty much anywhere their ammo storage was still on the rear boat oh if they can rebuild that Runway they can get a launch out of themselves oh no the internal explosions are too much they lose a cannon yep well that's not good that's not good at all at least not for red team blue team over here is having a great day I have three cannons in production simultaneously so we see how this is going uh besides blood in the water and they're gonna they're gonna chase it down single Cannon shell to retort oh no I think I want to see a shark mod shark mod um nibble on the bottom of your ship you know that sounds like the most that's only the perfect level of knock of obnoxious oh yeah and we can imagine the music when it's launched [Music] it's like no no not again and then just nibbling sounds foreign oh God just a single strut of wood on the bottom of your fort just disappears this is gone yeah shout out to beyond all reason here in the left side a helicopter and Alex have managed to keep their they've managed to protect their flag this entire match their rear Fort still has the flag intact despite it all for a tighter pattern good defense oh that was almost a door snipe oh boy um red team just suffered catastrophic damage losing about two-thirds of their propellers and their metal production yeah they're selling off all the airplanes now all the ammo now to gain regain enough to uh bootstrap the RICO again yeah they're straight selling pretty much everything to Bruce chapter Rico again they're slung off doors they're gonna have to sell they might have to sell these cannons it's it's real rough for them right now yeah there goes the cannon as well that should give them enough to bootstrap but they have bigger problems and it looks like an Air Force I think the core is just gonna lay down here for a while you know it's still got a beach it's gonna sit there it's gonna relax yeah oh no I see what they're doing here I gotta go for a ride go for uh oh not quite sure [Laughter] oh geez there we have it seemed beyond all reason moving on knocking team Commando onto the lower bracket very well done very well done that was a good match [Music] okay [Music] foreign dropping to the lower bracket quarter finals [Music] of course chat upgrades the shark idea and somebody's saying sharks with lasers on their head oh of course how long until we get a shark tornado that's so unrealistic all right the players are in the lobby he'll be starting off here momentarily here we are we're all ready and we're off all right it has begun already oh oh we're going to see a connection this Earth why are you like this interesting all right so this is something we haven't seen yet uh mostly because there's no I've not seen any real Advantage doing this but here we have on the left hand side seam Greenleaf has already connected their forts we now have a boat Fort connected to a standing fort and we'll see what they do with that Strat uh get smokestacks on land oh yes they do because they connected they gain access to the technology and now they get smoke stacks on land which is just stupidly powerful okay it's interesting that's I did not consider that I forgot about that actually that makes it worth it like 100 of the time and buy a lot okay um the only sad thing to see about this is they can't keep doing that because they undid the umbilical cord okay well now we have that done uh Team Greenleaf I should know that they are the warthog commanders we could expect to see some fairly substantial heavy weapon investment out of them as they'll be facing off against their opponents team teapots team teapots the some of the newer players in the to the competitive scene we do expect to see them going for I don't know what to expect to see them going for actually they are playing as the hurricane commander hurricane commanders we have seen extremely popular for the aircraft style strategies um potentially we see an aircraft strategy out of Team teapots here an interesting note um Team Greenleaf is going for every Tech and they will have every Tech available to them this map doesn't have crazy economy so going for every Tech definitely will slow them down fairly substantially however team teapots is not doing that they're going for straight for cannons which you know what fair enough mm-hmm unsurprisingly team in Greenleaf is going for the space laser launcher in the lower forts because lower Fort you know what it's just great for the space laser launcher it's just it's just good at it solves problems it's very hard to defeat the space laser launcher from the lower port and they are going to be doing exactly that space lasers we saw last time on this map pretty much single-handedly wiped out one and a half ports so very good at what it does and it looks cool too and it looks cool the most important part it looks cool oh no no what have you done that's not a space laser would they do oh is it that's a deck gun hmm shame I think they pressed the upgrade button did they do that on purpose I think they did it on purpose because they placed a cannon directly above it okay I think they did actually do that on purpose okay they placed it the cannon directly above it and they've got fire beam Plaza beam combo from the upper fort so I'm pretty certain that was indeed on purpose I just it's just such a good place like I get it's the obvious place to put a space laser launcher but it's such a good place to put it it's like just because it's the obvious thing doesn't mean it's a bad thing so I am curious to see how that works out uh debt guns obviously still good we've seen them you know them you love them they're good at what they do uh Canon follow-up always a good time can't go wrong with the Canon follow up for anything uh fire beam positive combo from Top love to see it uh Team teapots however is ready to fire their Cannon a little bit further ahead in the tech and generally progression uh due to well them not getting multiple sets of technology and also them being hurricane mind you they haven't really taken advantage of that they haven't started firing their cannons despite it being past Canon o'clock uh they may give Greenleaf the opportunity to fire their weapons first which would 100 be a mistake oh boy we did find the aircraft launcher by the way no aircraft on this on the field by the way so that's a decision wow that was good but here we go gunshot very good shotgun shot just clearing a a left and right can it shows straight to the core team teapots taking a hit fire beam plasma beam and they're gone without firing a shot despite team teapots having the heavy weapons Rush advantage and getting weapons out first they go down first waiting for some reason I do not understand uh Team Greenleaf got their got their attack together and just Dove deep straight to the face team teapot loses one of their cores looks like Greenleaf is just turning all of their Firepower into the last remaining teapot space which only has no technology and a single swarm missile launcher um it's gonna be another four or five minutes before they can get meaningful amounts of anything on the field and team Greenleaf is currently expanding their Arsenal while also having multiple forms of lethal amounts of Firepower on the fields and they just sniped out this one missile launcher leaving team teapots with actually zero weapons with which to fight back that just feels bad uh yeah a little bit one-sided I'd say a little bit one-sided for sure um remember we were talking about we love seeing newer players in the competitive scene this is exactly the kind of experience that we get to see them have which while it does feel bad to watch happen it feels better to watch them come back next time and perform even better because that's what they do and that's how we get more players and it's a good time all around shout out to team teapots coming in showing off and actually making it to the S uppers to the semifinals sorry this is the quarterfinals actually yes the quarterfinals lower bracket well done well done all right then so team teapots getting knocked out at the quarterfinals team Greenleaf moving on to the semifinals and lower bracket uh next up we will have Commando bar versus upgrad Sante a 42 scientists just I am saying that mostly correct quick question am I is this is from zero to ten how am I how's my pronunciation do I need do I need more throat noise in the r all right throat noise doing good mostly thank you I I try sometimes the key word there is mostly ah all right just pronouncing the Yen and oh there's really only a vowel sound app called I'm not trying to pronounce the end ah I see yes okay I am pronounced the Yen a little bit saute oh I see right makes sense there we go hmm [Music] learning [Music] it's always fun all these different nationalities all these languages yeah it's amazing um how spread out the interest in Forts is you know and it's great to see we've actually had an interesting uh large number of uh Chinese players uh discovering forts for the first time recently and yeah it's just really cool to see it spread around the world yes yes it is although it does result in having substantial amounts of ping and latency issues yeah yeah but that's Suffering From Success to some degree yeah I guess so and you know there's you know um that's something we'll look at eventually you know yes also I'm pretty certain all players in this Lobby are European yes looks like it uh which is awkward because I'm the host as the North American the only North American and Lobby oh no all right well no one's over 300 ping and the pings are roughly equal for everyone so it should be stable and no one has an advantage here so we should be good to go players are ready so let's kick it off and we're off once again here we have on the left hand side it is team up called saw okay I will try to I I pronounce the n a little bit a little bit too much like or at all which is a mistake I will try to pronounce it again focus on it real hard foreign there we go I give it a a seven this system yes leave it to the Australia to pronounce it to pronounce the French Canadian Australian ah oh God makes it even more confusing that's totally hoping so here we have a left hand side team abroad salty coming in as the Buster Commander we could expect to see some heavy weapons turned incendiary with the extra penetration works really well I like it good Commander works well in just about every situation typically used with cannons and uh cannons and also the carpet bombers uh works very well very strong love to see it they're facing off against their opponents team Barr team bar playing as the hurricane Commander are just kind of blatantly going with the aircraft strategy um we see we've seen this one up there a few times uh it's very strong very good at what it does it does a lot of damage is what it does we're gonna see that coming into uh coming into fruition here I think all right my question my only question for team Commando is will they be launching closer to the eight minute marks or you guarantee the kill or will they be launching six six and a half minutes where they can deal damage but won't really and won't reliably end the game I do have a question for team upgrades song that's it is to what exactly they're doing um it is going to be Canon related I imagine deck guns given the placements of the hardpoint uh will it be full deck gun will it be deck gun and Cannon we shall see hmm [Music] foreign oh boy and here comes the warthog production uh there is no upgrade Center for team Commander Bar at least not yet so we won't be seeing that double warthog production just yet which is interesting to me because they will have extraneous resources around to be expending on other things as they get hit with the EMP one thing I've noticed uh one thing I should point out is that the token early game EMP hasn't really shown itself much um it isn't nearly as effective on boat forts because the core is usually so deep into the boat that hitting the core or anything realistically damaging it's just not expected like you're just not going to hit it with the EMP most of the time so we don't see it even though it doesn't cost much the token EMP uh there's the upgrade search okay so it looks like team Commando bars just get a hit every technology which will mean that they're not going to be getting a whole lot of extra things like that we're not going to see much of a way of the extra Cannon or something out of them uh just because they just literally getting other every technology in the game and because of it uh they're building technology instead of weapons where on the other hand team upgrad Sante upgrade saute is getting more deck gun and more Canon going up to two deck guns and a single Cannon team upgrade salte will be doing a lot of damage and they can do a lot of damage very quickly it's just a matter of time before I know like I'm trying to think like what what are you doing here like what is the strategy is it really just just planes and nothing else like they haven't even fully invested like team Commando bar here hasn't been fully invested into their eco boats are known for being able to get a huge amount of Eco compared to every other Fort and so you do that because you can but they're not whereas team upgrad saute has really really expanded their boat a lot that hurts all three planes all three planes failing to drop their payloads uh so the answer to the question was they're gonna they're going to a Commando bar is going to send their Attack Force out at the six minute Mark and I do so not in the game but deal damage that's that's what's going on um that did set back upgrade salte just a little bit yep what it doesn't end the game and it's going to give that's going to give the blue team here an opportunity to come back and to deal actual damage which we're going to see right now with the active ability of crossote will be firing back dealing core damage to team Commando bar actually dealing bringing the chord down to 71 percent for perspective blue team here on the left took zero core damage from that bombing run so there you go there you have it now unfortunately due to Commando Barr's use of their aircraft they will have to reconstruct all of them which means they're going to be a fair few minutes away from having a lethal amount of damage from an airstrike oh but the buzz saw well that was nice that did lots of damage you did substantial amounts of deformation it's nothing they can't reconstruct like they're just going to rebuild that and there won't be permanent damage or anything uh but oh of the retort causing more damage than that buzz Saw's critical hit but good God that was did they they connected to that that's it they did they did catch it um I'm gonna be honest if I were them I would just sell off those propellers and disconnect it again yeah just let it all go away fine you don't need it oh God it's getting worse oh no oh oh it's bad oh it's real bad the cab sizing the core is exposed to a direct shot from a cannon for so long as their boat is capsized here capsides is a strong word for it but it's close enough to describe the situation okay they've rectified themselves now but oh boy do they need to fix this it's like standing up for another punch yes even other punch this is this is not what defending yourself looks like this is just the guys coming to stab you and you're like all right I'ma stand up and let you do it rather than being on the floor like you know it's better than being on the floor but it's not going to stop you from getting stabbed you know yep uh is here they're getting ready for another Cannon volley oh no why are they waiting why are you waiting upgraded something yeah but you can also you could do both yeah that's true oh all right there they go yep oh boy just barely missing the core oh solid hits the shotgun's keeping them alive but not quite enough to stop bar from taking hits at all oh boy that EMP I like how they rebuilt the EMP at this point partially for a a baits partially just to mess with them here comes the scatter fire yeah that's good damage one thing to note about boat forts it is incredibly difficult to defend your propellers in this if you have access to direct line of sight of your propellers at the lower element of the boat uh it's just incredibly difficult to make that work yeah due to the necessity of having due to the cone of Effectiveness for the minerals the metal production being horizontal do the propellers just like they are with the turbines it necessitates that these propellers be adjacent to nothing including defenses and oh this is yep like unzipping a zipper uh team Commando bars four gets chopped into but they do actually manage to catch it look at that they cut themselves from falling it's not something you see every day unfortunately their core is exposed to direct shots and Wow saving that means they actually have eco and they can defend themselves here mind you um they can't prevent their own demise but they can certainly try which is more than they could do if they didn't catch that and I applaud them for it well done well done team uprod defeating team Greenleaf you'd love to see it uh not Green Leaf not green leaf uh Team Commando bar cool I meant to say they're going to face Greenleaf in the next in the next one in their next match the virus on the game all right so the next match we'll be doing is the upper bracket finals I mean this is team bar versus Team bar could have seen this one coming ah this is uh a nice change from uh all that pro league stuff that we were working on for the last few months there hey I'm curses oh yes oh yes with Challenger mode being much more being a much better tool than it once was and familiarity with it a lot of those bumpy road speed bumps and uh new technology woes all been smoothed out yeah actually working real good it is next season is going to be uh be a bit I think a lot smoother and we've got our our sort of rules and our process are a lot more locked in and we've seen what worked well what didn't work well so I think we're uh I think we're in for a nice uh next season looking forward to it yes I do have a question um the AI for forts we were speaking about and as I know chronic data was in on this as well about updating it to allow the adjustments of the AI for by the players specifically regarding motivated by the upcoming AI tournament for the next AI tournament do you have any insight into that because I know it hasn't exactly been a priority that's that's always been its issue is that it's such a niche uh tournament that it it hasn't on hasn't really got uh some extra attention it's it's not to say that that it's impossible but it's you know we're just constantly trying to juggle what we should do next um and um personally yeah I would like to see some just minor improvements to get rid of some of the the silly things that are issues in in that uh but I can't say um when that would happen um okay so yeah nothing I can really note firm answer I can give you there um but yeah because I do have a soft spot for the AI tournaments because it's it's cool it's just a completely different way to watch the game which is always interesting um but yeah that's sort of where that is at the moment okay thank you yeah sorry all right we are just waiting for the players to join the lobby and we'll be jumping to the next round in curses would you um would you join would you uh compete in the AI tournament oh yeah in the past haven't uh yeah the last two tournaments yeah yeah yeah so you you have a bit of a coding background don't you so it would it sort of you get to kind of take advantage of that I guess yes though to be fair there's not much coding involved it is more by theme I wouldn't I yeah that's true I mean unless you're trying to do the thing that uh Alex did last time which is completely hijack with his own custom mod but that's not it's not the same thing it's not the same thing yeah no the uh one of the community members is looking to who's is looking to fund a prize pool fairly substantial prize pool for the next tournament next AI tournament um was talking to the other other persons who usually assist or usually put on the tournaments the AI tournaments and to see what we could do about getting it set up and the general consensus so far is everyone wants updates to the AI before putting on the tournament and I think that makes a lot of sense um yes I feel like it's the kind of thing maybe not here isn't the place to discuss it but you know yes let's discuss it yes [Music] I I think that would be a great idea because like I've already been discussing it with a crown Canadian such as I mentioned but that's a that's a later that's a later discussion yeah new ideas for new things a note from chat fairly predictable outcome is looking at the teams so a lot of fairly new players at tournaments this time around which is kind of neat uh yes I agree it does it does in fact mean that the that there's some substantial ease at determining who will predicting who will win and who will not win but it is cool to see nonetheless it's like all the experienced players and then Greenleaf also in that category foreign do you have a favorite weapon in high seas specifically high seas um of the high seas weapons that's a good question uh because I mean obviously probably the the your favorite one is whichever one is the most effective in the very moment right so yes uh so I've tried to think like overall and to not have Effectiveness be the probably thematically I like the aircraft that's not terribly surprising given my Affinity for all things flying and every game ever yep um yeah it brought her up for the space laser because it's a space laser yes yes um so I think I would have to say the aircraft of the aircraft I prefer the the warthog the warthogs the cluster missions like the mortar launcher ones cool but I I think that I think that answers that yeah it does I agree as we jump right into this next round perfect timing actually the players are ready things are going as we have some of our favorite players on one of our favorite Maps here we have on the left hand side it is team beyond all reason that is helicopter and Alex playing as the overdrive Commander for all that sweet delicious bonus Eco as well as upgrade speed Leviathan the totally not battleships map [Laughter] we'll see how they fare against their opponents team bar on the right hand side in the red cloud and Eaton playing as the hurricane Commander hurricane Commander with that bonus build speed and bonus ammo production speed and bonus reload speed just kind of oh better and faster at everything most known for using those aircraft strategies because you can produce aircraft just that much faster you'll get to see how they work out here now dreadnoughts is a map with three cores and incredible amounts of economic potential so there's gonna be a heap ton of a heap ton of Eco all sides and because of that too many cannons too many weapons to really shake your fist debt when it comes to when it comes to the weapon layouts and I'm going to say the metas for maps like this it's very similar between this map dreadnoughts and the modded Community map modded map the community map battleships you typically have all of your energy production in the rear because it's nice and safe there there's no better place to put it you have your technology and batteries and storages in the rear but underneath like inside the hole of the ship because you can and because it's safer there for the exact same reasons why you have your uh energy production in the rear you completely line the bottom with minds or propellers for your for your metal production because you can you have the forward component being lined with cannons and a a you have a central tower where the bridge would the ship would be mostly a a but sometimes the Cannons and similar the front of your fort is generally defenses uh we see a special like a guest appearance of the Return to Sender here is not uncommon although we also expect to see AAA off the front of this depending on the strategy the area behind the forward core and somewhat into where these deck guns are can be swarm missile launcher spam uh if that's the case then these deck guns or cannons would slide up more toward this upper core many a time we'll see this upper core swung down in fact did either team did neither team did this and then we have what is going to be the rear weapons because some weapons can be fired in an artillery trajectory namely tier threes and also aircraft now the runway often can be placed Above This middle core but below the AAA here it can also be placed pretty much anywhere because it's it's a it's a Runway and it doesn't really matter if it lives or dies in so much as it exists so we're long enough to Launch so oftentimes we'll see it pretty much thrown in as a secondary like it's as an afterthought or thrown in above or thrown in behind the rear core on an angle so that the aircraft can fly up like toward the space at a 45 degree angle and drop their shots from way above um also another common place to another common thing to do is to do standard tier threes or portal tier 3s tier threes of some variety you get at least three of them and you'll launch them towards your opponents because boats such as this are incredibly vulnerable to tier threes all of these bro it's kicking off yep here comes the first wave not quite enough Eric despite the relative lack of AAA for both Tims the aircraft don't just don't do that much damage it's not to say they didn't do a lot of damage but relative to the size of this ship it just wasn't that much damage and I'm kind of surprised that they chose to do that then but I think they were trying to snipe out that chord it just didn't quite work out but as I was saying two or threes are incredibly popular because all of these exposed turbines in the rear there's no way to get to them without using zero threes and they're incredibly juicy targets especially given that just underneath them is typically all of these typically all these extremely explosive ammunitions interesting that we see swore missiles behind the central Aspire for team bar on the right side because the Swarm missiles have a solid chance to slam into the rear of the spine which is not usually a good idea so typically we don't see swirl missiles there just because they tend to slam into the front into the rear of the spine which is terribly concerning if and when they get upgraded the nukes like that just becomes a real bad time wow the AAA for team bar here is this is all this is all manual AA by the way like this is oh they finally got a few in there good God but that was some amazing AAA there yeah um so manual like you said like yeah that was all manual like I'm in genuinely impressed um it's a very eaten move it is a very eaten move I want to point out they specifically used their Commander ability for that to enable the shotguns to come off to reload faster and come off cooldown to in order to defeat that this is very much so a we know this strategy is going to defeat us if we don't pull some madness out of our fingers yeah and they pulled madness out of their fingers yeah that was impressive that was incredibly impressive I will say this I have never seen that before even in my time even in the times before automatic AA was a thing and we used to do stuff like like that all the time uh that was just never that's that was a league above anything um quick note uh that Return to Sender was a perfectly placed Return to Sender yeah it's sent that Cannon shell so perfectly back from whence it came that it destroyed the its own Cannon yeah which is impressive also swore missile has been upgrading the nukes back here which means we may have an opportunity for self detonation which is a risk team too is willing to take hmm all right I guess we're not going to see orbital lasers on this one are we I highly doubt it um this is not exactly an orbital laser map there's just the anti-air is so thick and dense that it just doesn't happen if one of those lands oh it does it's dangerous oh it's bad oh it's real bad oh there it is there's the collapse oh that is it that's segmented segmented is the right word [Music] into three different components the center one uh has self-destructed uh which at this point I would let that go I would let it all sink away and um rebuild it while there is a core remaining in the forward compartment they can actually just sell off everything in the middle and then reconstruct it and reconnect it to not have to deal with all of that deformation because that's just this is an an unmaintainable you cannot recover that level of Destruction like I'm sorry it's just too much and it's still being targeted yeah that's amazing first off I'm impressed they caught it because that's difficult to do uh second it's actually a detrimental spareship all of these propellers here because of this uh component that's underneath them are being disabled so they need to yeah there they go They're removing the component and I would just remove it all and reconnect it like it's not going to be that big of a fixed price oh speaking of this but that's a scariest thing to see because that means there's absolutely zero ants here for the left team here which is not a surprise given the context um but it looks like they're going to be focusing the weak and exposed uh structure the technology component and the primary resource component for The Blue Team here on the left which is oh no all those all those Smoke Stacks are vulnerable the central Aspire has been removed and thus those smokestacks can be directly targeted um hmm okay that's uh that's a lot going on there love to see it like uh I struggle to come up with a good plan for team beyond all reason here uh left team is just they're in a bad way they're building aircraft hoping to eventually launch them The Joy about aircraft is that you don't have to have a weapon properly placed in order to use them you could construct them Bank them up and then just sneak out a Runway somewhere and launch Game ending amounts of damage all at once so that's good so that's what they're trying to do here the problem is it's not So Much Game ending amounts of damage as it is uh an attempt oh boy but look at this oh The Nighthawks just come in and clear everything up there's no more energy production for team beyond all reason blue team is not in a good position right now is that's an understatement um I just want to say every time every time team Barr fires those nukes they're taking their life into their own hands mind you they've done the good thing of building a spine a very tall spine on top of their boat just so that if the nukes connects that's only going to take out the top of the spine and not the top of the boat and it's just a matter of time before that happens oh here comes another launch this time we target The Return to Sender meaning that forward core is vulnerable to direct fire and they take it they chewed at it directly so here comes another volley oh no well uh they did manage to disconnect all that deformation in between uh not exactly the way they met wanted to do it I assume oh boy there it is a little bit of AOE goes a long way you know ironically oh they connected to it again oh my God they managed to connect to it again and they stabilized it well up until that point that that's the end of that I guess that's got to be the end of that I was gonna say unironically a tier three could do enough damage here for against red team that they could make a comeback I mean there's just several locations which a tier 3 could absolutely almost completely destroy the Red Fort but uh I I suspect they're not going to give their other opponents an opportunity to get that to make that happen the worst part about this there's still deformation that they held on to meaning that new team's Eco is just sundered right now why are you catching okay I know you can but you forgot to ask yourself if you should yeah I'm enjoying the tenacity of them just wanting to hold on yes I always appreciate when players do this make your opponents finish you off fights to The Bitter End not because you could win but because you can fight it makes it so much better well you know part of the fun is is the uh watching the destruction is enjoyable yes even as the player I like building the thick pieces of wood just to make my opponents blow through it just to see if they can or how long it takes them to do it that's that is the satisfying part oh yeah those cannons cut deep they cut real deep the funny part is this fort that's remaining is still more for it than most boats get stole a few quite a few things on there yes oh boy uh the the anti-fun weapons have come out fog launchers no fun allowed and nope the sandbag stop it yep and stop it again yeah and then the candidates coming through and just solve the problem like every time you think cannons aren't the most appropriate answer they're the most appropriate answer oh nothing they blew up repair center down there like no no more of this fog stop it okay oh boy well there goes the last Smoke Stack which is a concern for blue team because that means sandbags you're about to have a bad day selling off some of the propellers hoping to get the energy back so they could get another Smoke Stack out which they do yeah this is where they're gonna turn it around I think oh absolutely their cord directly exposed oh all right okay they think they I think they're I think they're able to get go yeah and there it is straight to the Core nice very very well played by everyone team bar filming it wow that damage numbers you're not close twenty three thousand versus three hundred twenty six thousand cheese that did not seem so one-sided when I was when we were playing it out hmm and then it was and then it was [Laughter] well done well done that will knock team beyond all reason down to the lower bracket well they will face against the victors of this upcoming match our next match will be team Greenleaf versus upgrade salte okay let's go ahead and get this set up [Music] okay so unsurprisingly eaten and Cloud are into the finals yes uh Co-op yeah I'll fix that one said uh once everybody's finished yeah all right and helicopter fly away yeah yes all right looks like the players are here they're not quite rated up we should be jumping into this one in a moment because next up we have Team Greenleaf versus upgrad salte let's go and oh yeah well give me a second one sec uh give me a moment this is uh there we go there we go okay foreign that's my bad no worries there's a lot of a lot of plates to juggle it's got to happen at least once eh all right we are good to go here we are off to the lower bracket semi-final here on the left hand side it is Team Green Leaf vicro and adrenistian playing on this monstrosity of a map as the hurricane Commander we've seen this Commander many a time very popular with the aircraft strategies the aircraft strategies that are so dominant throughout this throughout this tournament so far they'll be playing against their opponents playing as the Buster Commander Buster Commander another popular one in this in this 2v2 situation will be utilizing the Buster upgrades the Buster active to commit unnecessary amounts of damage which is my favorite kind of damage we have a very swinging core on the left it's about time that is the perfect core to swing into any other position and I so rarely see people do this I'm surprised that we are waiting till now just to see it but alas now we have rear cores for team Greenleaf each of their forts has a rear core to play with like especially on Co-op you have one player who can focus on the early game stuff spending all the money on a second player who can actually do who can actually do the core swinging like there's not a whole lot of APM requirements in the early game so like just do it all right looks like upgrad here is going to be going with the deck gun variants with triple deck guns in the forward port for them looks like green leaf will be going with these swarm missile variants with triple swarm missile in there forward fort now if you did use a orbital laser there's the sweeping flavor and the focused flavor um I rarely see the focused one used yes uh that's actually fairly easy to explain because it's entirely overkill for everything unless you are literally firing it at the community made battleships map it will never do more damage than the sweeping game and even when you fire it at the battleships map uh most of the time it will go completely through the map period bisects the ship and they could just then be reconnected right so not even though it's cutting it in half for whatever reason it's not as catastrophic as spreading the damage across yes it does it over the same reason why over penetrating the bases with standard cannons or lasers is not a good thing mm-hmm these basically the concentrated space laser is just designed to always over penetrate everything ever and it's not super useful there are some Niche cases for it where let's say you're using the sweeping beam and your opponent's have a full Beach on top whatever the thing that you absolutely need to destroy is like the rear fort on the right side has yes and if you want to remove that core you can drop your you could drop your focus Beam on it but that is such a rare instance of needing to do that because even then why not just drop a sweeping beam directly in front of the fort and wipe out the first third or the fort or drop a sweeping beam directly on top of the beach and wipe out the rear third of the fork why not do both yep they're equally as effective if not more effective maybe maybe when the laser hits the sandbags the sand should become lava and then literally glass the boats oh yeah oh gosh that would be interesting but it would be great I'm just giving the modders ideas now yes not the strongest use I've seen of the focused beam is um is actually using it to and this is something that I know players have did somebody disconnect yeah uh yes yeah uh the strongest use of the focus beam which is something that I know you guys have kind of worked out I tried to patch out is shooting yourself with it and aiming it redirecting it so that it's horizontal directly at the opponents yep because yeah perhaps you know yes there is no Fort boat or otherwise which can survive being bisected through the middle if you're a bisected top down like left to right you can survive having you know the front half or your rear half chopped off but being chopped in the middle you're disconnecting the core from the floor and that's just not acceptable that just doesn't function they were having connectivity issues yeah so they were they requested a pause just to wait for their ping to recover uh then they full like or crashed no so uh we're gonna be giving it a moment he's saying that they're working it out on Discord you know the uh crunch is one language that I can't quite read like I can mostly read I can mostly read Spanish I've been starting to be able to pick up written German like I've picked up enough nouns and verbs that I can oftentimes get The General idea of sentences um French not doesn't happen French doesn't matter there's a lot of familiar there's a lot of similarities between Italian and Spanish that I can kind of sort of sometimes put it together but French does doesn't work for me not yet I took two years of French in high school by force it's forced by the the school I went to and uh so I have these little hints of Fate you know vague memories of the word someone I'm seeing them speak in French I'm like I think that means they're waiting in Discord or something but you know yeah it's like use it or lose it kind of thing oh yeah that's the thing about uh languages it's certainly not something but it's certainly not something that you can keep if you don't use which is you know it is what it is I'd say it's unfortunate but man it is what it is yeah not everything in life can be something you learn once and then never have to think about again but yes it does appear to be a technical difficulty or internet connectivity issues specifically on the player's end of things um something I think we can talk about because it doesn't need to be a secret or anything is actually we have another tournament planned uh coming up uh we're gonna have another map making competition exciting yeah so um some the details of that will come out um in the next few days but uh yeah that's gonna be that's always cool to see people's creativity with the maps and we tend to um use the maps in tournaments sometimes we put them into the the cycling uh in ranked I can't remember what the specifics are of this one but yeah it's going to be a map making con so that'll be cool Lord knows I love those Maps like I use those maps all day on my streams yeah and some of them are just so creative you know like the whirlpool one we were talking about the other day or earlier today and um there's you know that one in the clouds and yeah there's some really cool yes like actually and that's one of the other popular tournaments like not all the tournament Styles we do are particularly popular some of them we do have issues where people just don't want to sign up uh the map making competition too many people signing up oh yeah we get heaps and we have to vet them actually beforehand don't we yeah and we we um there's like a pre-tournament for the tournament yeah practically practically and then uh and then we have uh uh we just invite players to play on them and give the maps a spin and and we just get a cool chilled out uh event where we get to check out some cool new maps so yeah it's gonna be cool oh yes oh yes all right it looks like they've managed to fix their internet and have rejoined the lobby uh he's loading in now and then we'll be jumping right back into the action giving it on pause here in a moment we need to say supporting very smooth so far yeah we haven't really haven't had any issues someone's someone's internet was bounds to die eventually all right looks like we're good to go so let's jump right back into the action I just want extra confirmation she's not responding again nope all right he's gone all right uh that went from he's connecting and talking and saying he's ready to suddenly disconnect yep 2V1 looks like all right then uh I oh boy yeah I think that's gonna have to be the case Johnstone wants to restart all right okay Green Leaf being uncharacteristically kind in this context I I don't think the restart will solve the problem because it isn't an issue with the player being unable to rejoin it's an issue with their internet not being here at all like they it's going to be a 2V1 regardless yeah that's what I yeah I think as the internet died so maybe just continuous 2V1 yes I agree with 42. um getting pinged from an unknown client which I assume is the player attempting to rejoin with an unstable connection I got two connection messages saying that he successfully connected twice simultaneously yeah okay so it says he's connecting now yeah and he's loading we'll give it a moment to see if he successfully connects but if he disconnects again uh we're just gonna have to let it just continue yep [Music] all right we are off we're back for the moment let's see if their internet to maintain stability so far but so far so good as the players from Team upgrade Sante I have managed to reconnect and continue as if nothing has happened greeny for being really good sports queenie's always really good sport the vast majority of the player base is very good sports it's one thing I like about the sports community hmm that has a lot of damage rock the boat a bit there it comes again um I do strongly suspect that team Greenleaf will have the advantage here as much as upgrad salte have a they do have substantial Firepower and will be able to bring a massive Air Force to bear uh Team Greenleaf just has stronger map control options and most of upgrads most of up World's strong strength requires uh substantial amounts of map control hmm here comes some more missiles the standard 20 mil which is an interesting decision given the context nuke's chunking but as we've discussed before these boats are uncharacteristically large and with that size comes massive amounts of damage necessary to get any real amounts of damage all done even hitting two nukes just doesn't do all that much damage relative to the size of the ship oh a swing and a Mist that Nighthawk doesn't do it oh but there's so much damage output all of this map control and it's failing to defend against the majority of the damage here but it does keep them alive oh how they survived that last one 55 percent holy smokes I will say this that was an incredible Alpha strike with the Air Force and the triple deck gun and the swore missiles holy smokes if Greenleaf did not have that absolutely incredible amounts of anterior and map and map control they would have lost that Fort just outright oh I pause oh unfortunately for green leaves to retorts they both pass can clean through they missed they just missed up Court upgrad just they're just gone it just didn't hit him at all oh boy oh this is better hit they were just smashing each other yes yes they are uh unfortunately can't actually finish off Greenleaf here as much as they want to and Greenleaf is looking to deal substantial damage oh yeah two of those there goes all three and that's a cap size oh there's a full proper cap size it's completely upside down their propellers are up in the air dangling bear and completely undefended team upcrowd loses a core it melts in the water effectively they only have one boat remaining although technically this core is alive and can be repaired uh it's on fire five percent and dropping yep yeah okay they were unable to damage control in time with one airstrike team Greenleaf flattens upgrade saltes forward boat leaving a team Greenleaf with the advantage despite taking absolutely apocalyptic levels of damage from an airstrike themselves relying on the sheer yeah just density of anti-air and general map control tools Greenleaf phase tanks uh an incorrect like it was so much damage there was so much damage I don't even I would have to spend like the next minute listing all the things and still they survived oh there's more pain deck guns yeah they're trying to get any matter damage through but the energy Shields are active all those aircraft completely shut down and shot down oh wow it looks like Timmy Greenleaf is ramping up their weapons production again looking to finish off the final French Bastion I was a little concerned for Treeing Green Leaf as they were pretty much attempting to uh they were attempting to be the Defenders before they were attempting to take the hit and then retort and that thus far has been a zero percent chance of Victory strategy uh but this time around it's paid off yep oh this is gonna be This is Gonna Hurt yeah yeah yes there it is it's always hurt the entire front of upgrad's final remaining forts has been removed the nuke Cuts deep exposing upgrads of cores oh no they're selling off their technology in an effort to get any amount of Eco backs they could defend their core before the next volley of cannons will come in oh but it's the worst case scenario yeah yeah uh their top core has been thrown into the water and is actively melting dissolving in the acid of H2O boiling the ocean uh-oh uh when that when that detonate is gonna take the rest of the boat with it yeah yeah there it goes ladies and gentlemen Team Green Leaf moves on upgrad son says knocked out of the lower bracket pushing us back into the into team bar versus Greenleaf once again well done well done well that was exciting it was I am truly surprised and impressed by team Greenleaf managing to hang on there and actually survive at all I mean they were they were definitely against the ropes there oh absolutely that was a beautiful match that got incredibly tense that was by no means one-sided all right so this next match will be team Greenleaf versus beyond all reason looking forward to this one it is a uh technically not a rematch despite it having despite them being against a team by the same name all right and the uh Grand final match will be a best of three yes which is always awkward when doing a when doing a double elimination format a little bit but it's so much more exciting well I'm happy because it just means a bit more for it yes yes that's exactly what it means and I'm entirely into it especially given the uh the roster we're looking at hmm like frankly either of these teams being in the grand finals is going to be a good time yep like I do not know who I would root for like if I had to choose one team and only one team I don't know which I would prefer Green Leaf or beyond all reason here helicopter is one of my favorite players in these matches so like I really want to know if you're in the finals but team Greenleaf though yeah yep 42's into Green Leaf as well exactly but on this match specifically we are once again on frigates out in the open sea with nothing but the endless void around you and the and bottomless Abyss below and a big distance between the two ships yep oh geez well in terms of commodity Choice team Greenleaf here on the left has gone with the hurricane Commander you know it you love it we've seen it a whole lot in this tournament yeah the bonus build speed enables extra ammunition enables extra firing speed and is it very common to be see very commonly seen with anything ammo related especially when it comes to aircraft and that's exactly we're going to be seeing here at Greenleaf as they already have an Airfield in place looks like they're going with the upgraded variants of it so they'll be getting an upgrade sensor upgrade in that Airfield and then investing heavily into ammunition production whereas their opponents beyond all reason are doing the exact same thing but instead of using the hurricane Commander there using the overdrive Commander now there's a little bit of a difference is there's a little bit of a difference here between these two styles styles between these Commander choices the um the overdrive Commander enables the upgraded the upgraded launch pad Runway to come out faster this means that they get earlier ammunition production earlier aircraft production it also during their Commander active gives them more resources to play with so we'll get to see more aircraft coming out faster usually with a side of additional defenses because they can whereas team Greenleaf doesn't get that earlier production but once their production comes online it's just overall faster because the hurricane Commander produces ammunition faster than the overdrive so we get to see earlier aircraft at a beyond all of Reason versus over time more aircraft from Greenleaf it's also worth noting that the increased production from Beyond all reason also means that they will have more aircraft in time so it's not like this is um one is just better than the other it's the difference in ways that are not incredibly well tested different but very similar and given the massive distances between these two boats I haven't the foggiest idea what these guys could do with their extra resources like you're not going to spend all of your resources on aircraft so you can spend more of them on things like anterior which we know does not really work versus the aircraft you can also spend them on lasers which is not going to happen no one's built in the Laser Technology I can spend them on cannons could do that but again what it did I mean you might as well get cannons because you can but it's like they're not gonna solve your problems uh looks like beyond the reason doing an early opening volley looking to take advantage of the lack of ads here with Team Green Man now this unless yeah yeah this is not going to be critical damage we've seen this time and time again from teams and I'm still convinced this is a mistake um that was never going to be Game ending amounts of damage that would just go into D deals some substantial damage which it didn't really do it usually does more damage than Greenleaf actually sustained uh but it was never going to end the game it had the side effect of charging up their Commander too it had the side effect of charging up their commander and it delayed beyond all reasons big volley like actually Game ending damage by what that was six aircraft I had something like 20 seconds apiece so we're talking you know another 120s or talking like another 120 seconds delayed did you deal 120 seconds worth of delay to the opponents No No One by a lot um so like that's a reoccurring trend and I don't I'm not a fan of it but I mean I've seen it work in Pub lobbies a lot where you can actually either full kill or deal near Game ending amounts of damage with just a quick opening volley like that it's something like the five minute mark reaping it like the four minute mark but that's not that's not what we're dealing with here and I should have been able to read that from the current status of the map they didn't get to that lucky shot as it were they weren't going to it's extremely unlikely to but at this point team Greenleaf is no longer producing aircraft is that true it's not true they have one production hey I kind of want them to make their boat bigger um I'm not sure this boat can really get bigger this is about the maximum size you're allowed to go based on the uh builds restrictions but here at Greenleaf is doing what I considered what I've I've imagined to be the appropriate solution is just fire everything all at once there you go look at that yep there you have it yeah seven minute mark nah that's no that's death just full death seven minute Mark just overwhelming Overkill is underrated that's what I have to say about that and uh Greenleaf a very strong showing just yes cleans house beyond all reason with a very clean pristine and excellently uh executed uh they're going to have to do that again and unfortunately they're gonna have to do that against the teams that pretty much invented this strategy invented this strategy and has already iterated upon it um team bar again they knocked out one we'll have to defeat the other and unfortunately for team Greenleaf second I was just gonna say that was 10 jets that did the damage yes yes it was it hit real hard uh and not that team bar had any real a a but honestly even if they did and they shot down another three aircraft it wouldn't have been enough that game was over already that game was over six aircraft in um so because this is a double elimination mechanically the way the format works is each team gets two lives they have to be eliminated or defeated twice in order to be eliminated from the tournament now team Greenleaf as they have gone through the lower bracket have already been eliminated once that means they only have one life they were on their last life the next time they are defeated they are knocked out of the tournament but here's the thing team Barr the team that they're up against now has as of yet been defeated they still have their extra life so team Greenleaf will have to defeat team Barr twice in order to be victorious in this tournament now what makes this last match a little awkward from the format perspective it's the best of three so in order to be defeated two matches to lose the entire match there are two rounds within the match yeah yeah so this match will be a best of three where team bar will have to lose two in a row in order to lose one life yep but don't worry we'll keep up before you get to show you the skills the show you the uh score along the way and we're off next match The Underdogs which is the winning champions pretty much Yes actually and that's what's gonna make this excited as here we have The Underdogs coming from the Fords pro league and from the lower bracket earning themselves at least second place in this tournament team Greenleaf with very few badges to their name very few tournament wins if any at all it's vicro andronistian you guys remember all those newer players who were coming in to join the competitive scene well here you have some of them hmm relatively new outboard to say relatively new they've been around for some time now they are recognized so you guys is one of the favorite teams here team Greenleaf one of the favorite teams more at is the actual thing I meant to say they're playing as the hurricane Commander I imagine intending to do the same strategy as they have done before with planes and an upgrade Center and a Runway they'll be facing off against their opponent's team Barr eaten and Cloud well you know him you love him it's eaten it's Cloud they're looking to be dominant once again and add to their entire pile of badges it's uh it's get they're gonna have to fight for it as team Greenleaf is looking to claim their badge themselves and quick note vikra most known for his Advanced tutorials yes yes vikra has done the good thing of taking all the things they've learned and putting it into tutorials that can be followed by other people it's a good time so here we do have the where's the upgrade Center I don't see an upgrade Center oh this is a different build this is a different this is a different build okay we do see a laser production facility so we may see Nighthawks rather than Thunderbolts we also don't see an upgrade Center there's the upgrade Center all right so this is not an upgrade Center first thing with the upgrade Center coming in a bit later okay [Music] why are you like this oh it's because uh Greenleaf didn't defend their rear core this might be lethal nope Stand Back Together strong but that was close that was real close that's the kind of thing that we see sometimes again two and a half minute Mark where you can get that kind of quick snipe off of a core yep um it didn't pan out this time but I was like 100 the right play it's a it's a question worth asking it is definitely a question worth asking because I am kind of surprised that core didn't explode um it probably just came down to the specific dispersion of the like that I think that may have actually come down to the dispersion of the grenades other waters as they came down yeah if that had been dispersed slightly differently this may have been a very different match yep [Music] all right unfortunately for team bar it does mean they have three fewer aircraft for their ultimate volley as it were when they intend to go for their actual Death Strike they'll have three fewer aircraft for it or have to wait the additional time for this aircraft to come online something that seemed Greenleaf won't have to do because they still have their aircraft on their ship my question is is it Nighthawks like what are you what are you doing with this laser production facility is it just fire beams okay well I guess they're spending their extra resources on on technology and fire beams it means they don't have a whole lot of resources around to play with defenses which does explain why they left their rear course so vulnerable during that phase and they're also getting tech guns like they are going to be slowing down their aircraft so substantially by getting all this extra stuff like I know the aircrafts are not expensive and leave room for well other toys but that's a lot of toys that is definitely a bigger budget than team bar is playing with and as we could see Team bar they've got a big budget okay here comes the cannonbally at a team barf directly to Green Leaves forward most core knocking it down about 12 which is not much percent but it's more percent than anything bar is taken fire beams you know I want to say something because it's not going to I want to say something but it's not going to be something that most players can take advantage of oh it's beginning six and a half minutes that's early that's earlier than anyone else and there's the lethal damage yep God and they still have extra aircraft to hit the front core oh that's so one-sided well uh so green leaf looking to be extremely disadvantaged in this round they lost most of their technology but they still have the runway they still have several of their aircraft and the laser production facility they can still create Nighthawks which they are now doing they can still create lasers they aren't out of it they don't have any real energy production uh you can tell that because the lasers aren't working yeah and they're taking pretty heavy hits here cannon goes in I don't know um so the sound of that mortar was the sound of Team bar tested the Sea of Greenleaf without any AAA yeah and they didn't so that just triggers time for more aircraft there it comes oh and getting having the aircraft fly into and under the energy Shield before dropping their payload oh no it's painful to watch but so good well um Here Comes death and disaster uh those those AA bait yeah okay that's fair enough adding explosives onto their uh hmm adding explosives onto their own boat just to make it a more satisfying destruction that was well done well done team bar winning this first round in this best of three so now we go into round two of this best of three and remember team bar has two lives team Greenleaf only has one if Greenleaf is defeated in this next round they will lose the match and with the match their last life let's all make sure to root for team Greenleaf give them all the hope they can get all the support they need they can bring this even further because we're off to the next round okay so it is again another mirror match as we have Greenleaf here on the left hand side up with the overdrive Commander overdrive Commander another Commander that just really put which is quite popular with the whole aircraft strategy enables them to get more aircraft out a little quicker than the hurricane Commander just because they can get that quick and early upgraded Runway with the upgraded Runway itself doubles aircraft production foreign bar on the right side doing the exact same thing looks like actually opening up with an upgrade Center as well team Greenleaf on the other hand opening up with an Armory which means no runway for them um interesting yeah it looks like team Barr is doing a typical upgrade sensor what would be the expected typical build order for airplanes whereas team Greenleaf it's going like deck guns it would seem as we do see the hardpoint placed already so we're going to see the yeah it looks like we're going to see at least three deck guns coming out of Team Greenleaf here um this is going to be rough for Greenleaf I think um aircraft uh I don't know I I still think aircraft win this in part because I do credit team bar with being the mechanically superior team they I do just do expect them to win because of that and also because I am currently of the belief that the strategy of aircraft would win this even if the players and the teams were of equal capabilities and yes Green Leaf is pretty close to team Barr in terms of mechanical skill um that just means they're still at a disadvantage here it's not impossible decagons are quite the good we've seen it time and time again looks like they're going up to at least four deck guns I think they're not going up to six here uh four deck guns is certainly enough to deal incredible amounts of damage with the overdrive Commander the upgrades the deck guns come out extremely fast which is quite the good is a great Commander for deck guns as well we do see the expansions for team bar here claiming those physical Land locations for uh later use by that I mean just stuff with as much Eco as possible team Greenleaf has not yet taking advantage of the landing points yet it looks like team Greenleaf they understand what's going to happen to them they're already getting set up with a beach like a full Beech worth of sand because they know they're gonna get hit and they don't want to get hit they're getting ready for it unfortunately it is really not enough of a beach to stop the kind of aircraft they're gonna be getting hit by uh at least not yet good news for them is team bar is not anywhere near ready to launch there's a good two minutes out before we can expect to see that measure of aircraft hitting them the upgrade Center just finishing for team Greenleaf not quite sure what they want to do with that I kind of wish shotguns would would uh build some AAA of some sort I see that they're getting a flack I imagine they're likely to get a couple of them um of course the problem with Flack is that they don't stop the plans so like it's a little rough well that was well done hmm completely destroying both of Barr's expansions team bar activating their Commander ability for maximum metal income peaking up capping out at 103 metal income which is a lot of metal income like they like eco they really like eco of course Greenleaf firing their cannons their deck guns once just to put them on reloads so that they can then upgrade them while the reload is happening but the deck guns deck cannons are coming off upgrade now they've been refurbished and there's time to fire them they have seconds left I imagine before before bar is ready to launch their aircraft that's not true Barr has actually been delayed by this taking those expansions and then having to retake them has delayed Barr fairly substantially they don't have the aircraft to end the game which is scary oh they missed the shotgun yeah and both expansions are taken out once again all right they're adding the forward Spike trying to trim the ship that means that they're lucky to get their aircraft ready to launch like an emergency launch just to get any amount of time available because they kind of sort of need it it looks like team bar has significantly invested into there oh that's bad oh oh that's real bad that's fairly exposed yes team Bart invested so much into Eco the deck guns just came out and have ruined them okay well that's I didn't expect that I really didn't expect that but I'm happy about it oh why didn't you fire this those shotguns shot okay this is cool well team Greenleaf coming out with a significant amount of Canon Yep they're actually managing to take a match off of Team bar here yeah okay almost feels like team bar just didn't shoot down those uh those deck guns I saw you sitting there on the shotgun either way very very well done for team Greenleaf at the risk of writing off team bar in this round entirely um this is a lot of damage coming out of Greenleaf and there's not much okay yeah that's a full concede right there fair enough letting it happen they know when they're defeated they know what it's over they're going for a swim Ming oh connected really really that wasn't to concede they just tried to they were just dropping their core a little bit just to get them out of the okay yeah well there you go oh my God that's just showing off I love it I love it so much I'll be back in a moment all right it'll be just a moment before we start off this next match team Greenleaf evening the odds even in the scores in this best of three very very well done team Greenleaf that was and that was an overwhelming amount of Canon is what that was foreign the players are ready the match is made let's go as we're into well we're into the final round of this first match first match of the finals as Greenleaf is doing it again right out the gate they're connecting their two forts so they can get access to that's smokestack technology it's a little bit more optimized this time and immediately two smokestacks right off the top looks like team bar not opting to go with smokestacks but instead the tried the truth the classic the well-known and ever popular uh rear wind turbines okay you really see the effort Greenleaf put in each map like actually though Green Leaf has this is one thing I want to say about Green Leaf Green Leaf has actually practiced and it shows because they have customized build orders for each map and they're immediately jumping on them this is the sign of good players these are the kind of players that will flatten everyone except for E10 and Cloud who have done the same thing just slightly differently coming to a different conclusion with the same level of activity foreign they don't know how to do smokestack on non-water oh oh no [Music] well it seems Green Leaf has something to teach Ethan's team and that is scary but impressive it is all right so remember guys in this round the scores are either whoever wins this wins this first best of three if Greenleaf wins they will knock a life off of Team bar setting us right back to start Winner Takes all in another best of three however if Greenleaf is defeated Greenleaf will lose this match and lose a life but Greenleaf is already on their last last life and will be eliminated from the tournament so make sure to get your hope make sure to get your votes root for Greenleaf and Jet so we can get more games because Green Leaf is good and it's fun to watch them and also I like watching eat and smash them it's a good time and they're green and they're leafy yes very Canadian they're green I actually have no idea if they're Canadian or not I mean I guess they're no they're not Canadian they're European I mean that looks like that that's typically the Canadian flag symbolism that is Polish I think and stronistine is European somewhere I don't know where uh uh but that is the same Maple Leaf that Canada uses yeah it's just green we have the early fire beams coming out of team and Bar as in this final round team bar is going with the hurricane Commander this does mean that we get to see some uh extra quick ammunitions which we will see in the form of heavy bombers which are gonna be coming out right now and potentially in the game right now yeah oh the aim was a little off a little off misses the core but does massive damage anyways team Greenleaf going with the warthog Commander using the same strategy as they have had so much success with pre in previous rounds the fire beam laser beam combo classic coming out of the top fort with the deck gun and eventually a cannon directly above it can expect to see some great work coming out of Team Greenleaf here the question is will it be enough as team Barr is going for a similar strategy with the firebeam laser beam combo in their standard hanging fort and then well Nighthawks from the lower fort okay looks like team Greenleaf is preparing to fire their deck gun but it isn't ready to fire just yet wow uh yeah that's rough losing your plasma here is about the worst case scenario the plasma was team greenleaf's primary damage output and the follow-up for the deck cannons the deck guns flat punch I'm losing that plasma loses them most of their real damage output real threat as bar is almost complete with another Nighthawk and still has two fire beams and a plasma to their name at this point team bar just has more of the same things that Greenleaf has and then also and then also a Nighthawk which is kind of a big deal oh yeah and there's the plasma beam doing plasma beam things it was a beautiful shot straight to the tiny doors and taking out that gun Team Green div Green Leaf is reeling from that kind of damage um and it's it's just about time for that Nighthawk to come in and clean up their lower fort at this point Green Leaf needs to do something that I don't even see how they could yeah no that's it plasma being a fire beam combo the classic and here comes the Nighthawk to finish off the lower fort I'm in the sandbox the sandwich bags prevented the first explosion but there's nothing left here the Eco is destroyed the weapons are destroyed the technology is gone yeah Barr finishes it off at a clean cut laser there we have it team bar with an incredibly one-sided match after that last match went poorly for them and that's it that was decisive that was very very decisive to say the least and with that Team Green Leaf is knocked out loses their last life taking second place in the forts high seas tournament 24. and that ladies and gentlemen leaves Eaton and Cloud 26 is it 26 oh God it is 26 okay thank you scientists the Ford's official tournament 26. will be won by Eaton and Cloud added to Eaton's pile of badges with Team Greenleaf in second place that's amazing reason in third well done well done everyone thank you one and all for stopping by enjoying these great games because it has certainly been a good time all around it was awesome it was really awesome to see a big thank you to you and Chris for your usual uh all your support and uh everybody behind the scenes 42 and uh uh Rome uh managing the uh the community and getting everything organized and uh yeah that was a lot of fun it was awesome to see some good good old high seas action yes you'll love to see it and again thank you thank you guys we do have 42 and Rome currently in the chat listening to us they haven't said a word the whole time although I know they could if they wanted to I say thank you thank you all and actually I do have a question do we want to bring Eaton and I'm sure Eaton has something to yell at us about oh sure yeah why not you want to do you want to say it do the victors want to come in and have any thoughts because I know this is a tournament and the high seas format which is something we haven't done for quite some time certainly not this uh extensively so we'll give the victors an opportunity to come in and talk should they wish to they are still deciding if they want to come in they're probably exhausted oh I can imagine it's been four and a half hours of this yeah they're both gonna jump in all right uh can you drag them into the channel perfect yeah welcome in and congratulations on yet another victory in the official tournaments thank you well done well done man that's um so uh how did it feel uh coming back to high seas after all the pro league uh it felt cool it felt like I was trying something I hadn't done a while and I was a little bit Rusty at the start especially during qualifiers but it seems like oh yeah we managed to pull it through yeah cool that's really cool and congrats Cloud that's well done yes um yeah so um what's uh what's everybody's thoughts on um the um you know sort of the strategies that were happening um we saw some repeated strategies happening and a couple of just a few twists on it but what's your guys take on well it's a little sad that like mortars and Rockets or the tier one weapons are like non-existent in Pisces at least I feel like it's either too long there's too much Eco for either of us to be viable and there's too much space for AAA especially friends yeah yeah it feels like in a larger match as well like it's similar to 3344 where you can't really do rockets mortars because they'll just get shut down so easily yep and then I think also that um seems like planes the A10 specifically were being used pretty much every single game and obviously it's a great success so seemed pretty strong yes I was talking about that exactly on a previous stream where the A10 the uh the warthogs they are different from every other projectile weapon projectile style weapon like mortars or the Rockets even where unlike every other weapon they are not burst fire weapons they feel like burst fire weapons until you get eights or more of them at which point it's just 30 seconds consistently of damage and there is no anti-air weapon in the game which can deal with consistence incoming damage maybe a 50 metal or increase the energy caused by thousand would help us out just making it like you have to spend a lot more resources to get that like a Game ending round of Fire yep that makes sense it feels like the runway itself isn't a pretty good spot because it gets decently expensive and especially the upgrade is nice price but yeah it feels like a10s are just a little bit too cheap and too easy to spam yeah yeah that makes sense I think it's a that's a fair call that's cool well anyways guys that was uh you know spectacular effort Under Pressure like that and congratulations on uh on uh winning the finals thank you yes very well done I am very much so looking forward to another event where we get to do high quality high seas events high quality high seas action cool and I guess next event we're gonna have a map making competition so might see some of you guys uh playing a game when we test out some of those Maps cool all right then and we're going to wrap it up here thank you one and all again shout out to nosehead joining us here from the from the developer team hoping to put this on with 42 scientists at Romero running all the background things the cat hurting so we could put on this show just for you guys and again congratulations to cloud and Ethan taking first place in this tournaments and as always have a good one out there and I see you guys next time

Channel: Project Incursus Gaming

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Length: 261min 30sec (15690 seconds)

Published: Sat May 27 2023