Forging a Quillion Dagger

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Hey folks, welcome to the channel. I'm really  excited about today's video. I finally show   you the build where I do my knife for the  challenge against Dave at Evader knives.   If you haven't seen the video where I make the  damascus, go watch that one. I'll put a link up   here. Go watch that one first where I issued the  challenge and made the damascus. In this one I'm   going to show you the knife that I've built. I'd like you guys to please go down in the comments and comment   on this build. Go watch Dave's build and comment  on his video. Let us know which one you like.   Remember, there's no winner or loser. You guys  watching both videos, that's the real win for us! So without further ado, I want to show you guys  my design. Yes, I'll be doing a quillion dagger!   Let's get right into it guys. This baby's going  to be 16 inches, tip to pommel. Obviously it's   a dagger so it's going to have four bevels. We're  going to have some some parts to do on the lathe.   We're going to have a fluted handle, maybe  with some wire inlay and a screw-on pommel. This is going to be probably, most  definitely, my most complicated build yet. The first thing I want to do is isolate the  steel for the tang and for the ricasso because   those flares are going to be at the edge so I  want to get the steel I need for the tang first. This dagger was much longer than the amount of  steel that I had, so I couldn't just cut it out.   I did have to forge as much  as I could to save on steel. I also didn't want to thin out the blade too much.  Because it was a dagger and  was going to get four bevels,   I wanted the center to have a bit of meat to it. I want to try to keep that as close to 3/16 as I could. Now I'm getting some length with the  press and just putting in a point. This will give me a little more length and  also it's thickening up the blade a little bit. Don't worry the rebar,  is getting cut off. That's   just where I was holding it before  and I've got it reversed right now. Here goes my first attempt  at putting in the flares. This   ends up not working too well but I gave it a shot. I'm trying to spread out the  steel that I used to make the   flares and it's just not going where i want it. At this point I'm just looking at it and contemplating  what I'm going to do. I'm just not happy right now.   Here it is after the initial  forging. If I put the pattern on it ,  there's already some things I want to  change. First off, the little flares here   did not turn out well, which is fine, because  I actually have enough steel to to redo those.   I'm actually going to make the blade just a little  bit wider until it tapers here. I don't   like it, now that I see it cut out, the tang is way  too small, which is fine. I kind of figured that.   I have the steel to make that a little wider.  I want the ricasso a little wider as well. I was really happy with the damascus on this one.  While I was grinding I actually forgot it   was damascus. There's no inclusions, no nothing, and it's so  fine you can't see the pattern.. can't see it yet! I put the pattern on it and I filed out the  flares here so those look pretty good right now.   It's still pretty thick so now we're going to take it  to the surface grinder and grind that down.   Then we'll put our bevels in. I've got this all  surface ground. Next operation... I want a fuller   in the very center of the blade that goes  from right above the flares to about seven   inches. As the blade tapers  to the front it will just disappear. We're going to do that with a ball end  mill and take it down the blade. Let's go! The fuller is even on both sides. This was  all filed out. I also milled the shoulders.   It looks pretty good. It kind of looks like  a rocket ship! Now to put the bevels in. Putting the bevels in this knife was certainly  the most stressful thing. It's such a narrow blade.   There's such an easy propensity to put a facet  on it or change the angle you're holding it at.   Plus they're really long and they're four  of them so lots of challenges on this one. Having a fuller in the center of the blade  actually helps quite a bit in case you oops   a little bit. You don't have to meet at a perfect  line. The the fuller had a couple of uses here. After three or four hours, I was pretty  happy with the blade. It was pretty   nice and even nice and flat on the sides.  Now we're ready for the heat treat. Of course the blade's already been normalized and it's gone through some thermal cycling.   Now we're doing the quench. It was actually  pretty uneventful. Things went well, no warps at all.   Although I sped this up in the video, you really  need to make sure you leave your blade in the   oil for at least 10 seconds, usually more like 20.  You'll notice at the end here I almost dropped it! The blade was tempered at 400 degrees  fahrenheit for two hours, twice. Now it's   time to do the final grinding. I started this  at 80 went up to 120 and kind of left it there   just because I was nervous  and didn't want to screw it up. I wanted to grind the bevels down  so that the edges were about 10/1000   thick and they look pretty good. Here it is after final grinding. I'm really,  really thrilled with how this turned out.   No major flaws in the grind. It's really,  really even, no facets, I love how this   tapers to a point here on this fuller and the  same on the other side. Exactly the way   I wanted it to turn out. Everything's  going really well so far. Really fine edge, so looking good. I've got some hand sanded  but before I do that I thought I would   get started on the guard. This one I'm  going to turn on the lathe. That'll be my   first big lathe project of turning this.  I'm going to take some measurements and basically I'm going to leave this center part.  I'm going to use a three-quarter inch stainless   and I'm going to leave this center  part and then I'm just going to take some   measurements on these areas and then scribe some  lines. Actually I'll take it down a diameter and   then scribe some lines and see if I can replicate  that this is my first major project on the lathe.   I'm no machinist guys, so take it easy on me.  I'm sure I'm doing some dumb things, but I had fun.   It's a really fun tool to use so I'm sure I'll  be doing a lot more on the lathe in the future. I'm pretty familiar with the mill  and using the mill with my DRO.   I'm a math guy, I like precision,  and using the lathe was a little different.  You kind of had to get the feel for it and  keep going and kind of getting it closer   and closer. It's not a precision instrument,  at least the way I'm using it without a DRO. I will say, I think I got this pretty close on the  lathe. I don't see any difference between the left   and right quillion. I think they both look pretty  identical. There's the somewhat finished guard.   I haven't cut the ends off just in  case I have to put it back in the lathe.   Right now I want to mill the center  part flat so that's why I left this.   I didn't shape this at all because I  want to be able to put this in the vise.   It'll kind of lock it in then I'm  going to shave off the top that'll give me a flat   section. I'll flip it over and mill the top and that'll  give me a nice flat section. Let's get her done. There's the guard all milled. The  only thing that's not milled is the slot.   Before I do the slot, I want to fully sand  the blade so I get a perfect thickness on   the ricasso. If you want some tips on hand sanding  go watch last week's Triple-T video. That gives   some good hand sanding tips and I really used  a lot of those in hand sanding this blade. Now I'm milling the slot in the guard and getting ready to put it on the knife. Since the quillions were on a different  plane than the face of the guard, I had   to prop it up in this 1-2-3 block.  That seemed to work to grind it out.   There's the guard all fit on the knife.  It fits nicely, no gaps. It's just dry fit   and hammered on right now. I'll get it off but i have  some more sanding and file work to do on this.    I love it. I love the way it looks.  I think it looks really cool.   Now it's time to do this spacer.  Here you'll notice that this is an oval   and the handle is going to be round so I have to  transition from an oval to a round here. What I'm   going to do is take this, turn it on the lathe to  be this diameter down to this, and then I'll just   take this guard off put it on top trace it  on the big side and then just use the grinder   just to shape that down. I think that'll work.  Now I just have to turn this on the lathe, take   some measurements, mark it on here and turn it  on the lathe. I ended up using a longer piece of   stock to do the spacer. I don't have a cut-off  tool for my lathe and I really need to get one.   I needed to cut this on the bandsaw so I  needed it to be longer to lock it into the bandsaw. I've got the spacer all done. You  can see it's round on one side and then it's   got the oval to match the guard. You'll notice  I put holes for line up pins which are exactly the   same as the ones here so it should line up nicely.  It's been sanded to 220 but I'll match it and   sand it all down later. Now on to the  handle. Originally I wanted to use this   maple burl dyed kind of purplish. My worry is that  it's just a little too busy and when I put the   flutes in it and the wire, there's just too much  going on. I was going to   use african blackwood, just because I love that wood. I still may, but I'm going to try this. I like   the red. I think red would look really good,  so I'm going to try this bloodwood.   I'm going to be turning it on the  lathe. I think I'm going to start there   and see what I can get out of that. Who knows,  maybe it's just a test piece. Let's give it a try.   I'm sure the machinists are just cringing  right now seeing me turn some wood on my   metal lathe. Yes this made a huge mess  and it took me a while to clean this up. I remember shop class back in middle school and  using the wood lathe and I remember how fun it   was and now i remember why. It is really fun. I  finished doing the basic contours of the handle   on the lathe. It's thicker than normal because  the flutes are going to be concave flutes so   that's why. This will be the top point.  I've got it rigged up here this is the jig I used   to do wire wrapped handles. I'm using this as  a little guide because I need to put a grid system   on here so that I can do the fluting and get it  perfect. That's why these little markers on here.   Now I'm just going to put a grid  pattern on here so I can get that done. There, now the way you do these   is to draw a line from this one from here to this  corner to this corner to that corner and it will   make a spiral all the way around to the other  side that's the next thing. Once I had the grids   marked on here I just connected corner  to corner and that gave me those lines.   Now a bunch of filing just to take these out. It's actually every second line is going to be   the valley and the other one is going to be  the point so it's going to be a lot of work. It's starting to come together. I have the  initial filing on the handle done.   It still needs a little work. It's  pretty rough right now. These   edges here will be flattened a bit  because that's where the wire is going to go.   Overall I'm pretty happy with it. Now  the pommel.. let's go back to the lathe.   Sorry folks, I lost the footage for turning  the pommel on the lathe but you get the idea.   It's time to do the channels for the wire inlay.  I'm going to flatten these out with a file   and then figure out how I'm going  to center that channel. Let's do it. I tried a few things to get the channels  for the wire. I ended up landing on   using a carpet knife to  mark or score that line in the center   then went back with a marking pencil and just  kind of scratched through that. That kind of   cut a line to make it a little deeper so that my  file would travel nicely. I then ended up using   these Nicholson needle files to make  the channel and that worked well. As you can see, this sure was time consuming.   It ended up taking probably two or three hours to get   all these channels filed into the handle.  I think they came out really really nice. I've got the channels  for the wire all filed out.  Now I need to drill some holes where  the wire will go into on either end.   I'm just going to drill 1/16 holes here and  then there'll be little channels on either end   to go into that so they'll get hidden once  the pommel and guard are pressed up tight. There are the holes. I think we're good to go. Okay we're  ready to do the twist for this wire.   The way I'm going to do  this is I have my steel wire here. I am going to double it and just straighten it out here.   I think I have more than I need. Yep, so i'm going to hook it here. That's way more than I need. I'm just going to crimp this end, twist it, then i'm going to hook it on the drill. And give it a little spin. Okay, from experience this will want to crimp up on you if you try to take  it off. You need to wind it around something. There we go. We've got our twisted wire. At this point I've already fully finished  the handle, sanded it to a thousand.   Now I'm using contact cement and putting  it in that groove where the wire goes. I'm doing one groove at a time and filling it full  of contact cement and crimping the end of the wire so it fits in the hole. Then wrapping it  around and crimping it and putting in the other side Sorry guys, I should have zoomed out the camera a  little bit. It's kind of hidden what i'm doing.    I'm wrapping the wire around and then i'm taking a  toothpick and just kind of jamming it in that hole   with some glue. Just to make sure that that wire is  solid and will not come out of the hole. We're so   close now. I'm doing final buffing of the fittings and  getting ready. I've got some white compound   on my buffer. Then I go to the buffing wheel. I  get these nice and shiny ready for the final fit up. Thanks folks! I hope you enjoyed this build. I had a  great time doing it, it was super fun. I can't wait   to watch Dave's build and see what he's come up  with. If you want to see more throw down damascus   challenges, stay tuned. For those of you that  have YouTube channels and you want a challenge,   come talk to me. I'm thrilled with the  way this turned out. I can't wait to do   more builds like this. So guys, please like  and subscribe and we'll see you on the next one!
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Channel: Tyrell Knifeworks
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Keywords: Damascus Build-Off Challenge with Evader Knives, quillion daggers, knife making, tyrell knifeworks, tyrell, damascus throw down challenge, throw down challenge, damascus challenge, quillion dagger, evader knives, forging a quillion dagger, making a quillion dagger, forging a damascus dagger, dave evader knives, damascus knife, making a knife, knife maker
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Length: 25min 32sec (1532 seconds)
Published: Sun Feb 28 2021
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