Flattest Shooting Cartridges by Caliber

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Hi, everyone. Ron Spomer with the flattest shooting cartridge in the world. Again? Didn't I just do that? Well, I did but we got such a great response that we decided to investigate all of the cartridges. Not just ones I thought were probably going to win. I was darn close but there's a new kid on the block and this isn't it. Stay tuned. Part two, the world's flattest shooting cartridges. Caliber by caliber. Well, before we do the big reveal on this cartridge and the winner of the flattest shooting cartridge. I would like to extend a thank you to our patrons. If you would like to join the Ron Spomer Outdoors Community, just go to www.patreon.com/RonSpomerOutdoors and join up. We sure appreciate it. Thanks. Now, this big guy is a .470 Nitro Express and it's not going to win any flat shooting competitions. There's a big 400, 500 grain bullet usually on top of these things. Fairly blunt and around nosed. Obviously, it's for close range shooting of a really dangerous game like Cape Buffalo but it had the right idea with a lot of powder. Well, they needed that powder to push that big bullet. When the turn of the century is when they started figuring out that you could bottleneck your cartridges and throw smaller bullets with the big powder you were using behind the straight wall cartridges. Once they figured that out and put in smokeless powder, there went our velocities. So, how do we get our velocities at their peak? You push a tiny bullet with a lot of powder and this leads to barrel burnout. If you want to go fast, you've got to burn a lot of powder and in relation to the diameter of your bore, and that's going to burn out the throats sooner than if you had a more, even one like this. So, the slower cartridges are going to have longer barrel life, but by golly, if you want to go fast, you've got to pay the price. So, that's your price. Burning a lot of powder and burning out your barrel sooner. But it's like I always tell guys for hunting, it's not really much of a concern. Let's say that you've got a real barrel burner and your accuracy starts to go too far south after a thousand rounds. Well, if you're a conservative shooter and you're only using this rifle for hunting. Let's say you're an aggressive hunter with lots of time and money and you take 10 big game animals a year. And if you require two shots to do it, you're going to be able to bag about 450 to 500 animals, depending on how many sighting shots you take and stuff. Before you burn up a thousand rounds, you've got a good 40, 45, 50 years of hunting under your belt. I don't think you need to worry about burning out your barrel in a hunting rifle but here's the way we are going to look at finding the fastest shooting cartridge of all time. It leads up to this time and that is caliber by caliber. That gives us a good feel for how the smaller calibers compete with the bigger ones and where that sweet spot is in the middle. And it really is in the middle. So. Let's start with the .17 caliber. That's going to be one. Buy the cartridge that throws the bullet the fastest in .17 caliber. It's the 17 Remington. And we'll put up our chart here for you and show you some numbers. I'm not going to recite all of them but you will notice as we go down the caliber line from the 17s, all the way up to the 338s, it's always the cartridge that is the fastest that wins each category. Now, you can modify it a little bit by choosing the BC of your bullet because as you'll see when you look at these charts and by the way, if you want to really study these, go to www.RonSpomerOutdoors.com. I have a companion piece on my website that covers all of this stuff and I've got this chart on there. So, you can take your time, study it, print it off if you want and really look at those numbers and start to understand the relationship between muzzle velocity and ballistic coefficient on your bullets because there's some kind of a balance going on in there. And generally, the lighter the bullet in the caliber and the faster you push it, the flatter it shoots to 500 yards, 300 yards, sometimes but rarely a thousand yards. After 500 yards, it appears that you need to move up in bullet weight and get a higher BC. And then that starts to take over to be a flatter shooter at extended ranges. I haven't found out the exact formula for it yet but I invite you to send one in if you know it. If there's some kind of a magical mathematical formula that calculates exactly the right BC bullet weight and velocity for the flattest trajectory in any cartridge, that would be fun to know. Be a useful little formula. So, in the .20 calibers, the winner is the .204 Ruger. In the .22 caliber, a lot of people thought it would be the .22-50 Remington because it's so fast and flat and well-known but the little bit lesser known .220 Swift has more powder capacity. You can see it right there. That's why it wins. It's pushing the same bullets but faster. And it's still one of the fastest in the world and we'll see that as we get to the end of our list here. Next up are the .24 calibers and everybody was thinking .243 Winchester, maybe six millimeter Remington, which is faster than the .243 but there's a faster .24. Not a lot of people know it, whether it be .240 Weatherby Magnum that throws them the fastest. So, it wins. It's the flattest shooter. Then we step up to the .25s and a lot of people thought 25/6, which is the great guess but again, here comes Weatherby. Their old belted magnum case is doing the job. .257 Weatherby Magnum is the flattest in the .25s, but not quite the flattest of all. After .25, we step up to .26 and here we're going to have a bit of a gap in here because I don't have this cartridge. Wish I did but a good substitute right now is the 26 Nosler. This is about second place. There's a cartridge that's a little bit longer and just as fat. And that is our all time winner, I think. At least it is in the 27s and it is the 6.5x300 Weatherby. And why don't I have one? First, because it's really, really new and I just haven't gotten around to playing around with one. And I'm probably not going to have it myself anyway because that's just going so fast. I really don't find a need for it. But boy, if you want to set some records, that's the one you want to look at. Now, why did I slide this guy in here? Because this is the 300 Weatherby Magnum. So, that lets you see how much taller that thing is. And if you neck that 300 down to 6.5 and use the same bullets as this 26 Nosler, you get little bit more speed out of it and that really shoots flat. You look at that chart. 6.5x300 Weatherby Magnum, a hundred grain bullet drops only 11.7 inches at 300 yards, 37 inches at 500 yards, 218 at a thousand yards. So, far that looks like it's winning in all categories. Pretty impressive stuff. I wish I had one to show you but take my word for it. It looks just like that. I believe just neck down to 6.5. Now, the next one up is a 27 Nosler. Several people guessed that might win. And by golly, in the 27 category, it does. And once more, it's just because it's got more powder, capacity and it pushes those bullets the fastest of all the 27s. The 28s and we come up with, could it be the 28 Nosler? Not quite. It's the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum. Once again, bigger, longer cartridge. All of the Noslers with that big 404 Jeffrey Case that they're using, those are all pushed back to be 30/0 links. So, you can fit them through most standard length actions. Remington went with the ultimate. I think this is why they called it the Remington Ultra Magnum because they've got full length magnum sized cases. The 375 H&H full length case. And you generally need a magnum length magazine, if not action to function those. Now, Remington's Model 700 will handle it with the right magazine length in it. So, that's seven RUM wins the category for 28s and it's probably pretty close to winning it all. But before we do that, let's look at the 300s. And then again, everybody... It's surprisingly... This is really a surprise but several people said 308. 308 Winchester. Guys, that's at the bottom of the heap. That's a great all round cartridge with minimal recoil and they build accurate rounds for it and all the rest of it. But it's not that flat shooting. It just doesn't have the horsepower. The 30/6 beats it. The 300 H&H Magnum, the 300 Win Mag. The 300 Ruger Compact Magnum. The 300 Weatherby Mag. Oh my gosh, you just got so many that are faster than the 308, but even the 300 Weatherby Magnum's not going to win this category. You've got, once again, get up into those RUMs. And the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum is doing awfully well. 12.12 inches of drop at 300 yards, 38.7 at 500 and only 228 at a thousand. That guy is in and running. Now, there are so many of these that I had to go to the back page with a few. We're going to jump up to the big 338s and such. And you know, I didn't do a lot with the 338s because when I started researching them, I could see that they did not have enough horsepower to push even their light bullets, fast enough to win the fastest cartridges in the world. And then you get up to the 35s and the 375s and you're getting up into some real specialty categories in order to win this one. So, you can look at the numbers there on the 338, 378 Weatherby Magnum but not going to be your all around champ. That's going to be this guy neck down to 6.5. That's a 6.5x300 Weatherby Magnum. Now, that .220 Swift comes at 300 yards within 1/10th of an inch of that 6.5x300. Pretty impressive. There's some really interesting data on these charts. So, once again, go to www.RonSpomerOutdoors.com and study that chart and see if you can figure out that relationship between BC and muzzle velocity. It's some kind of a magical formula out there but it's fun to just go through all the ballistic charts and figure this stuff out and discover just how flat shooting some of our surprising little cartridges are and how many of them are so close. And again, I am not emphasizing or even suggesting that we all buy the flattest shooting cartridge in the world and go hunting at extreme distances. This is just an exercise in the best. Everybody likes the world's record this and the world's record that. It's fun to find out. So, we'll do some more world record searching on cartridge performance here in the future. But it's always fun to argue with your friends around the campfire, "What's the flattest shooting cartridge?" "It's mine." "It's yours." Well, now you've got the answer and you've got some numbers to prove it too. Do be aware though, that you could find one that maybe shoots a little flatter if you get the right combination of lightweight bullet and maximum velocity. I didn't find any but it wouldn't surprise me if there are some options out there. I'm thinking of that in the sevens. If you went down to a hundred grain bullet in that RUM, you might come pretty close to winning this as the all around flattest shooter. I don't know how effective a hundred grain bullet would be out of a seven RUM. It would certainly put a hurt on something but it's getting to be a pretty frangible bullet at those high velocities. And they don't load them anyway, so you'd have to be a hand loader. So, that's pretty much the wrap-up on this, guys. Now, if you want to write back and argue with me, I'll be happy to entertain the numbers. So, just come up with some good solid numbers that is run on a good ballistic calculator. Make sure you use your BC numbers and all the rest. Oh, be aware of that BC numbers are not absolute. When you study these hand loading manuals and even the charts from the factory loaded ammunition and they list their velocity at the muzzle and all the rest of it and usually the bullet BC, none of those numbers are cast in stone. They may have come up with them in their labs but when you look at the hand loading manuals, for instance, you may have the same load or the same bullet and cartridge combination in one manual that's 100 to as much as 200 feet per second slower than the top one in another. So, it depends on the barrel and the length of the barrel, the tightness of the chamber and the bore. And just a lot of factors that play into it. So, don't assume that you are going to get these same ballistic performances from your rifle. You've got to always check this stuff out with a chronograph or on the range and shooting your targets. But it's fun to know which one am I going to shoot the fastest. Now, you get to make a decision. You want a lot of recoil and shoot fast and hard? Do you want less recoil and shoot fast and reach out there? Or do you want to save your barrel and just said, "Maybe, I'll just live with a little bit more reasonable velocity," because as many point, out gravity is a constant. It pulls at 32 feet per second, accelerating at 32 feet per second. So, you can count on that and figure out your ballistic curve and compensate, especially when you have a laser range finder and you know the precise distance of the target. What you can't compensate for is wind. You can guess at the wind speed and wind direction but over distance, is it going to be the same wind speed? Is it going to be constant? Is it going to be gusting just when you pull the trigger? You can make a lot of mistakes with wind. So, most long range shooters these days are spending more time working with high BC bullets than flat trajectories. Both are great, but if I had to pick one over the other, I'm going to go with a higher BC bullet so I can fight to wind more effectively. This is Ron Spomer. Thanks for watching guys and gals, if I can call you gals in this day and age. Anyone who appreciates guns and ammo and ballistics and hunting, I thank you for watching. Until next time on Honest and Shoot Straight.
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Published: Fri Aug 13 2021
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