Film Music that Copied Classical Music

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A lot of Williams’ music has been “inspired” by other works. Jaws is basically the beginning of the 4th movement of Dvorak’s 9th Symphony.

Not saying Williams is a music thief or anything. Just noting that he draws themes from other sources at times. Plenty of his music is wholly unique. The Lost in Space theme, for example.

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/zetaraybill 📅︎︎ Nov 24 2020 🗫︎ replies

Not to mention Holst - The Planets

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/locustt 📅︎︎ Nov 25 2020 🗫︎ replies

Brilliant.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/actusagere 📅︎︎ Nov 25 2020 🗫︎ replies
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Welcome to another I N T E R E S T I N G episode of TwoSet Violin. Today we will be reviewing... That's very... I N T E R E S T I N G ! ! ! A lot of people on the internet pointed out that certain very famous and iconic soundtracks have been... ..."inspired"... ...almost copied, so we thought we'd go through some of these claims. Our ears should speak for itself. But make sure to stick around to the end of this video, because the whole reason we're doing this video is our friend sent a clip that sounded insanely like a very well-known classical piece - that no one has talked about yet. - Oh...! Make sure to stick around, and of course, accent the like button, legato the subscribe button. Do it! The first one is of course, John Williams and Gustav Holst. Holst composed The Planets, and John Williams, Star Wars. (both) Hmm...! Star Wars and The Planets! Isn't Star Wars about a lot of planets as well? (both) Hmm!!! Here's a part from the Star Wars soundtrack, let's listen to it first. I thought that was Holst. Yeah! - I can hear the similarity with Mars. - Similarity. - The chords, right? - Yeah! The chords and the uh... ...augmented fourth interval. Dude, that's so obvious. - I haven't heard this, I'm just shocked at how close it is. - Yeah... Okay, sorry 'cause I..we...I...yeah. - 'Cause we already know this piece, we played it. - Yeah. Let us listen to the Mars, - and then we can all collectively decide. - Okay, okay, my ears are here now. I N T E R E S T I N G ! ! ! Alright, so, - already, the fluttering string... - Strings... - With the tense...build up. - It sounds the same. Just changed a few notes. It's like the exact same chords, - it's even the same key! - Dude, it's exactly the same! It's the exact same key. - They didn't even bother to change... - D flat, G! The only difference was... Star Wars added like a random chord before... In-between the semiquavers. That one. Yeah. - It just added the... - Dude, was it like... Was that to dodge copyright? YouTube algorithm! Don't see us! By the way guys, on that note, this video's gonna get copystriked, so... Check out TwoSet Apparel! Support us. That's ironic. We're gonna get copystriked by the copiers. Oh, we are! "We...we copy strike on behalf of Holst." Send the money to Holst! Next one, again! John Williams. What's up? - Alright, so that's the famous...theme. - Yeah, we all know that. No way! No way! Korngold did it already! - I had no—I didn't know this one! - I'm actually...I don't know this one either! Ohh!!! It reminds me of the time my friend copied my assignment in uni! God, I had to redo it! Wow, that was legit! - Yeah! - You think the Star Wars theme would - at least be original. - Guys, if you're watching this [and] you're new to classical music, check out Korngold, - 'cause he's also known for cinematic writing music. - Yeah. His violin concerto is amazing. It just blew my mind, I did not know. Korngold, copystrike him! Well that was SACRILEGIOUS! I wanna listen to it again, I just wanna appreciate how similar it was. Ahh...! - The first two chords are exactly the same! - It...it's not even... It's the same chord, the first two chords. And then the timbre and the instrumentation is exactly the same. And then... He changed to... (both) Yeah. It took up to the... - ...that bit, before him to add one different note. - Yeah. - Okay, the second half, he... - Okay. But dude, man, that's... Real sus. Don't get us wrong, like I mean Star Wars, - okay, it's cool, whatever, but... - Yeah. Woooo!!! ...getting a bit close to home! - You can take inspiration from different artists. - Yeah. All artists are influenced by others. Some people even say there's no such thing as - "original thought", right? - Yeah. - Taking someone's ideas and create it into your own. - Yeah. And also, two people can come up with the exact same ideas at the same time. But where is that line? 'Cause this is getting a bit close! This is like note by note! - Yeah let's keep going, what else is there? - Let's keep going. - Can I just say, I prefer Korngold's version. - Me too. Korngold's got a bit more uh, sweeter... I mean, to be fair, - John Williams' suits the galaxy battle more, but, - He does, - Korngold's so beautiful...! - but...personal taste, it's just... Ahh. Anyway. Oh no, there's more? - Okay, this one, I don't think so. - Yeah, I don't...yeah. - It doesn't sound that similar to me. - It doesn't sound that similar. - It has a similar contour, and a similar vibe, - Yeah. - but the chords were different, - Notes, yeah. - and the texture was different. - Yeah, yeah. I think the biggest difference is... - And... - Yeah. - I think it's...yeah. - It feels very different. I think that's different. Also, I want to say the last... That. - That kind of suspension, that's not in the Tchaikovsky. - Yeah, it's not. Look, I mean, Mr. Williams knew not to go there. You don't mess with Tchaikovsky. Tchaikovsky will come after you. Bro when I saw Tchaikovsky Violin I was like, (both) No way! That is SACRILEGIOUS! Dune Sea... - This sounds very familiar. - Yeah. (both) Stravinsky...! It is! It is Stravinsky! Of course! Rite of Spring! Yeah, that's why I was like, - "It sounds almost like Stravinsky!" - It is, it does sound familiar, I'm like "This is..." Yeah, and I was like, "Stravinsky!" - For me, this one was less obnoxious than the first two. - Yeah. But it's getting there, like... - To me, this is like a 75% similarity, - Yeah. - where the others were like 95. - Dude, look at Stravinsky's face, he's like, "You copy me?" - Right on that one. - I wanna listen to it again. The...that kind of weird... ...dissonant chord, - is exactly the same as the Stravin... - The same. Dude, that's exactly the same. If he didn't copy, I do think he probably was inspired from this. - Oh, 100% inspired, like... - Yeah. - Okay, okay, 99.9%. Like just in case. - 99.9. We don't know. Maybe he just thought of... Maybe he goes.... He's like, "Damn, that was so good. No one could ever do that." Think classical musicians are not there? We are here! Did they like, have to pay royalty fees? Because Stravinsky and Korngold - aren't in public domain yet. - It's not! They're not, so it hasn't [been] hundred years yet. Well, I'm not a lawyer. - Yeah...yeah. - I'm just a musician sharing my thoughts. The pieces you heard are almost the exact same, listen again, they're both being played... - Hang on, did they just...did he just layer it? - They just let us put them... - Together. - Yeah. You know, if you played that to me, I would think it's Stravinsky, straight up. As a classical musician, it's...hands-down Stravinsky. - That's crazy. - Dude, I'm conflicted right now. Like I'm really confused. Okay, another one. Of course, the Jaws theme. - Yeah. I feel like this one is... - I mean, yeah. - You just feel like, "Ehh..." - ...passable. - You're just taking a motif, and an idea. - Yeah, mm-hmm. But you're not copying. This is fine. - Alright, so that's Mars, by Holst. - Yeah. Yeah... Okay, yeah, I mean... This is similar, but... - It's so short it's passable. - Yeah. But that is a very recognisable motif though. I know it was meant to be film music versus classical music, but it somehow ended up being primarily Star Wars... - Yeah...! Whoopsies! - ...versus classical music. But, on that note, time for our bonus video. Just happens to be from... ...Star Wars. But the animated series, the Clone Wars. Are you ready for some I N T E R E S T I N G ? Are you alright? Without Ahsoka's foresight, I fear things would have gone quite differently. Served you well, your visions have, young Padawan. Thank you, Master Yoda. But, we still don't know who's really behind this. Hmm. Concentrate. Remember. What do you see? I see... ...shapes. Large... ...devouring. The strings part. I hear... ...laughter. Did you guys hear that? - Yeah...yeah. - Conveniently the voiceover came on top. But that music... ...sounds like something we've played at the Conservatory Orchestra together. If you're a classical musician, [you] probably would notice. Epic symphony. Yeah. The thing that confused us so much was the second half of that clip sounded so exactly similar, that I thought, "Maybe they just used the actual Rachmaninoff in the soundtrack." But nowhere on the internet do they say they used Rachmaninoff 2 in the soundtrack. And more suspicious, is before that... The previous bit shares similar harmonies - and textures, but it's clearly a different melody. - Yeah. So it's almost as if they were trying to compose something that sounded like Rachmaninoff, but they kind of just gave up - and just copy and pasted. - It's like they kept the chords and just inverted like the melody. - Yeah. - Flipped it around a bit. It's so small that no one really picked this up, but, you're a classical musician and you watch this, oh, your ears will go "wa-ding!" - Yeah. - "Hang on a second!" Okay look, we don't want to be party poopers. I'm sure these film composers compose great music. It's just very suspicious! Hmm! I don't know, tell us what you think. And we also highly recommend you listen to Rachmaninoff Symphony no. 2. We had lots of fun playing that. Oh it was so good. I wanna...I wanna check just right before, actually. That's what it's meant to be. But that, was like some other thing. - That doesn't happen in the Rach 2! - Ooh...yeah...! And they go... - Yeah, "Oh, listen!" Yeah...! - "Oh, we go upwards instead of down!" Here's my composition. Whoa! I N T E R E S T I N G ! I N T E R E S T I N G ! ! ! Anyway. It's just interesting to share with you guys. Again, if you liked this episode, please accent the like button, and yeah, we might... 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