Exchange between Rep. Jim Jordan and Dr. Anthony Fauci

chairman dr fauci when is the time when is the time well in your written statement you say now is not the time to pull back on masking physical distancing and avoiding congregate settings when is the time when do americans get their freedom back can you put your microphone please sorry when we get the level of infection in this country low enough that it is not a really high what is low enough give me a number what i mean we had 15 days to slow the spread turned into one year of lost liberty what metrics what measures what has to happen before americans get more freedom my message uh congresswoman jordan is to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as we possibly can to get the level of infection in this country low that it is no longer a threat that is when and i believe when that happens you will see what determines when i'm sorry what what measure what i mean are we just going to continue this forever when does wind doesn't when do we get to the point what measure what standard what objective outcome do we have to reach before before americans get their liberty and freedoms back you know you're indicating liberty and freedom i look at it as a public health measure to prevent people from dying and going to the hospital you don't think americans liberties have been threatened last year dr fauci they've been assaulted their liberties have i don't look at this as a liberty thing congressman jordan well that's obvious as a public health thing but i disagree with you i think the constitution is suspended during it uh during a a virus during a pandemic it's certainly not this will end for sure when we get the level of infection very low it is now at such a high level there's a threat again of major success over the last year americans first amendment rights have been completely attacked you're right to go to church you're right to assemble you're right to petition your government freedom of the press freedom of speech i've all been assaulted i mean for a year now americans haven't been able to go to church even today when they go to church they're limited to the size of worshipers who can meet your right to assemble oh my goodness we had a curfew last fall in ohio you had to be in your home at 10 in pennsylvania you had to be in your home uh when you're in your home you had to wear a mask in vermont when you were in your home you didn't have to wear a mask dr fauci because you weren't allowed to have people over to your house yeah congressman jordan your ability to petition your government for a year for a year american citizens haven't been able to come to their capital to petition their government to talk to their representatives and freedom of the press these very pictures that representative scalise just showed you and talked about guess what the press isn't allowed in those facilities the press is not the bite administration will not let the press in there and certainly freedom of speech i mean freedom governor of our third largest state meets with with physicians and that and that's that that video is censored because they dare to disagree with dr fauci so i just want to know when do americans get their first amendment liberties back right you know i don't think anything was censured because they felt they couldn't disagree with me i think you're pers you're making this a personal thing and it isn't it's not a personal thing no you are that is exactly what you're doing no your recommendations carry a lot of weight dr fauci we just had the chair of the financial services committee said she loves you and you're the greatest thing in the world my recommendations are consistent will the gentleman yield no it's my can i answer the question please my recommendations are not a personal recommendation it's based on the cdc guidance which is which is and i'm asking a question what measures have to be attained before americans get their first amendment liberties back i just told you that i know you haven't given anything specific you said we hope when this certain tell me specifically right now right now we have about 60 000 infections a day which is a very large risk for a surge we're not talking about liberties we're talking about a pandemic that has killed five hundred and sixty thousand americans i i get that what i'm talking about and i don't disagree with that and i understand how serious that is but i also stand it's pretty serious when businesses have been shut down people can't go to church people can't assemble in their own homes with their friends with their families people can't go to a loved one's funeral people can't get to their government petition their representative to redress their grievances i also understand the first amendment's pretty darn important and it's been a year and i want to know when americans will get those first amendment liberties back well you just said people cannot assemble in their own homes they can that's a cdc recommendation for vaccines not last fall they couldn't i didn't last fall they couldn't i didn't hear what he said the gentleman's time has expired um i'll give you one of when we can get our liberties back it's when ninety percent of the members of the united states congress get vaccinated well i want to know if that's what dr falchi's is it ninety percent fancy is it ninety percent that's what i'm that that's what i'd like to know give me some give us some objective standards versus when certain things get reached we might be able to get back to having our liberty when what are the numbers you're going to see a gradual um from the right now we're at an unacceptably high level where on a daily basis it's unacceptably high regardless of who you are what you're gonna see as more and more people get vaccinated and we get over three million people a day you're going to see the level of infection come down and down and gradually there will be more flexibility for doing the things that you're talking about where does it get to when it comes down what number do we get our liberties back tell me the number tell me the members of congress get vaccinated but you're not a doctor mr clyburn he is what is the number i can't thank you for recognizing me mr clyburn thank you recognizes uh for five i'd like my question here i don't i don't know why mr chairman mr chairman i don't want you to answer my question the american people want dr fauci to answer the question what does it have to be fire sir if you need to respect the chair and shut your mouth don't worry about this we we're going to handle this and i think mr jordan knows me very well and he knows full well that we're going to handle this your time has expired and the chair and our record thank you mr chairman ms maloney

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Length: 6min 53sec (413 seconds)

Published: Thu Apr 15 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/53withtrollhair]

These 'health officials' are addicted to power. They will not let go of it. They were rock stars for two years. And they said anything to continue the status quo.

[u/chaseviking]

When a so called vaccine doesn't actually protect a person from what it was intended to protect a person from the it's clearly a wannabe vaccine. Add on the fact that a lot of people have been badly injured or died shortly after taking that wannabe vaccine and that includes young healthy people with no underlining medical conditions, it becomes clear that this wannabe vaccine is not safe and needs to go back to the drawing board or scrapped.

[u/RIPnalgachuey]

It’s the republicans fault because…. It’s their fault!!!!?!?!?!!!

[u/ObjectiveStomach2215]

Look at Canada. We’re like 90% jacked up. And cases are still exploding.

[u/chaseviking]

When a so called vaccine doesn't actually protect a person from what it was intended to protect a person from the it's clearly a wannabe vaccine. Add on the fact that a lot of people have been badly injured or died shortly after taking that wannabe vaccine and that includes young healthy people with no underlining medical conditions, it becomes clear that this wannabe vaccine is not safe and needs to go back to the drawing board or scrapped.

[u/PgARmed]

Obviously this means they haven't given the shot to EVERYONE including fetuses,infants, toddlers,kids,teens,young adults and everyone healthy enough to fight it on their own. /S!

[u/ravessey]

It means the plandemic didn't work as expected.

[u/kittiekatz95]

No. It means we are dealing with a different strain of the virus than what the vaccine was designed for. And what Fauci said in April 2021 isn’t super applicable to current strains.

[u/Stanzy2]

Constant new variants that are less dangerous are coming along, they are also much more infectious,