Everything Wrong with the 5.9L Cummins (12V & 24V)

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1989. That's the year Cummins and Dodge teamed up.   Dodge had previously experimented with selling  diesel pickup trucks with Mitsubishi engines,   and while the Mitsubishi 6DR5 that you could find  in the Dodge D150 and D250 was a good engine in   its own right, it was only a 4.0L and had very  limited power production, which ultimately led to   it failing. Because of stiff competition between  GM and Ford, Dodge needed something to kick their   sales into high gear, which was the whole point  behind offering a Cummins engine in their trucks.   Today, more than 80% of Ram 2500 trucks  sold use a Cummins power plant and that   number is even higher for the 3500 models. The  first engine in their partnership was the 5.9L   12 valve engine and that was followed up about  a decade later with the 24 valve 5.9L engine,   and while diesel guys will never fully agree  on who has the best engine whether it's GM,   Dodge, or Ford, the general consensus is that the  12 valve 5.9L is the best light duty pickup truck   engine ever. But of course, no engine is perfect,  so let's take a look at everything wrong with the   5.9L. We'll look at everything wrong with the  12 valve and the 24 valve, and how to fix it. When the 6BT Cummins was debuted in 1989, it was a  game changer. And even though it was stuffed into   a very outdated Dodge chassis, it gave the Ram  trucks a new foothold in the pickup truck market.   The 6BT packed a turbo, direct injection,  and a whopping 400 pound-feet of torque,   which exceeded anything Ford and GM were offering  at the time with their v8 diesel engines. With the   new Cummins engine in their Ram trucks, Dodge  saw an increase in sales in the ram lineup for   the first time since 1981. The original 12  valve Cummins predates the p-pump version,   but it definitely set the tone in the diesel truck  segment for years to come in terms of power, fuel   efficiency, long-term durability, and more. In the  first year the Cummins engine option was equipped   on over 18,000 trucks, which is about double what  Chrysler had initially expected. One of the nice   features of the 5.9L Cummins is the gear driven  camshaft system, which today, is pretty much   standard on all diesel engines except for maybe a  handful of engines like the GM 3.0L Duramax. But,   for the most part, a gear driven camshaft system  is pretty standardized, and that's where you'll   actually find the very first problem on the 5.9L  Cummins which is the killer dowel pin or KDP. One   of the funniest parts about the KDP issue, is that  it's not even a mechanical part of the engine.   It's quite literally a teeny tiny little metal  dowel inserted into the front of the engine   block that is used to align the front gear housing  during initial assembly. As I mentioned a moment   ago, it's located near the gear train on the front  of the engine. And more specifically, it's located   above the camshaft gear and just to the left  of the injection pump gear. In any other engine   location, this little pin probably wouldn't cause  too much of an issue. But because of specifically   where it is, it can cause literal catastrophic  engine failure. What happens is that over   many thousands of miles and drive hours, heat  cycles, and vibration, that pin can eventually   wiggle itself out. In the ideal scenario when the  pin wiggles out it'll possibly bounce off of a few   things and then land at the bottom of the front  cover, which then it'll hopefully just settle   at the bottom of the oil pan. Unfortunately,  that ideal situation doesn't always happen, and   the flip side of the coin is the pin falling out  and getting lodged between the cam and injection   pump gear. If this worst case scenario occurs, it  can cause a chain reaction of the valves and the   pistons violently meeting together and ultimately  ending your engine's life. In some situations,   the result of this is repairable, but in some  other situations it can literally be the end   of the engine and even the cylinder block itself.  Luckily, Cummins and Dodge did figure this issue   out relatively quickly, so it's not something that  you really see on the 24 valve. You can see it   on some of them, but definitely not all of them.  The most common years where you see this problem   a lot is on the 1994 to 1998 model year trucks,  which is the engine with the Bosch P7100 pump.   Supposedly the P7100 pump models have different  harmonics compared to the earlier models with   the VE44 rotary injection pump, but that being  said, it's still present on the earlier engine,   it's just supposedly less common. And because  of how this issue occurs at random with miles,   hours, heat cycles, and vibration,  eventually causing it to wiggle loose,   there's no predicting this problem. Which means  that any 5.9L Cummins from 1989 to 2002 is   basically a ticking time bomb. That is unless you  install a simple solution to keep that dowel pin   in place. This is known as a KDP prevention kit or  a KDP disaster prevention kit, and it's basically   just a little piece of metal that helps hold that  dowel pin in place and that plate is held in by   the bolt right next to the dowel pin itself. These  types of kits are relatively inexpensive, but   fairly labor intensive, as it requires removal of  the front cover which really isn't that bad if you   have the tools to do it, but it can certainly be a  daunting task for somebody who's new to working on   their own truck. Moving away from the killer  dowel pin, let's take a look at the next two   issues that you'll find on the 24 valve engine,  which is the VP44 injection pump and the lift   pump. Starting with the first problem, we have the  Bosch VP44 injection pump and because of the fact   that the 12 valve was mechanically injected  and the 24 valve is electronically injected,   the injection pumps are quite a bit different.  Where the 12 valve injection pump was basically   known for being bulletproof and was hard to kill  even if you were quite literally trying to kill   it, the VP44 is known for having quite a few weak  areas that can cause the entire thing to fail.   And I don't mean to say that in a negative way,  because the VP44 injection pump has its own pros   in its own right, but those little issues need to  be fixed before you can really consider it a good   injection pump. Because we all love throwing shade  at the EPA, they're partially to blame for the   VP44 being added to the 5.9L, as stricter emission  standards are what ultimately force Cummins to   switch the 5.9L to electronic injection. Okay,  enough complaining about the EPA. The majority   of the issues with the VP44 can actually be tacked  to the PSG, which is the computer that you'll find   on top of the injection pump that controls the  whole thing. And similar to the dowel pin problem,   with a lot of miles, running hours, heat cycles,  and vibration, issues with the PSG can pop   up. Most notably, the soldering on the PSG circuit  board can create issues with electrical signals,   which can then result in a handful of issues such  as long cranking when trying to start an already   hot 5.9L engine. Past the PSG issues, there are  plenty of examples of the rotor seizing in the   distributor part of the VP44 pump. This normally  happens from surface damage due to poor deburring   during manufacturing. When the rotor seizes up,  it'll break the drive plate, which then leaves   the VP44 input shaft spinning but no pressurized  fuel making its way to the injectors, which means   if this happens, your truck will immediately shut  off and not turn back on. That takes us to another   part of the VP44 which is the diaphragm located  on the distributor head inlet. This supplies fuel   to the bores of the distributor shaft, and  unfortunately, it's a fairly common failing   point on the earlier VP44 pumps due to its poor  material that would crack with time and miles.   Luckily, this particular issue in the VP44 doesn't  affect the later year models as the diaphragm was   reinforced to prevent this issue entirely. That  takes us to the second issue with the VP44, and   that's actually not even the pump itself, it's the  lift pump. And the lift pump is responsible for   supplying the VP44 injection pump with a steady  flow of fuel, and that fuel is used as lubrication   and as cooling for the VP44 injection pump. So, if  your lift pump starts to fail, it can starve out   your VP44 injection pump, and then that can cause  a whole chain of issues. Unfortunately, lift pump   failure is actually fairly common on the 24 valve  Cummins, at least until they introduce the common   rail version. The standard lift pump that you'll  find on the 24 valve is a self-priming electric   Carter lift pump, but oddly enough it's mounted  directly to the engine block, and once again,   miles, hours, heat, and vibration can cause it to  fail prematurely. This was made even worse by the   factory fix for the problem, which was to replace  that aforementioned lift pump on the engine block   with an in-tank lift pump, which ultimately didn't  provide the fuel pressure needed to keep the VP44   injection pump happy. Luckily, the fix for all of  this is actually pretty simple, and that's just   to install an aftermarket lift pump. Some of the  aftermarket lift pumps from fuel fab, fass, or air   dog, have been proven to be capable of delivering  adequate fuel pressure as compared to the original   Carter electric pump or the in-tank pump. Plus  if you're talking about a non-stock 5.9L Cummins,   you'll want a high flow lift pump in the first  place, otherwise you'll run into even more issues   with the VP44 injection pump being starved out.  That being said, if you are on a totally stock   5.9L with a stock lift pump, a good way to  actually measure your lift pump and make sure   that it's working effectively is by installing  a fuel pressure gauge, and this will let you   know basically how much fuel pressure is coming  to your VP44 injection pump. With that in-tank   pump you'll often see around 5psi, but really to  keep the VP44 injection pump happy you're gonna   want something closer to 10 to 15psi. And that  takes us to the next fatal flaw of the 24 valve   Cummins and that is the number 53 block. Cummins  had multiple companies casting their engine blocks   and one of those was a Brazilian company known as  TUPY who cast approximately 100,000 engine blocks.   The only issue is that the TUPY cast blocks have  thinner water jacket walls as compared to earlier   and later 5.9L engine blocks, which ultimately  makes these blocks very susceptible to cracking,   which then leads to coolant leaking and could  quickly result in your engine overheating,   especially in a high load situation such as  towing. While the issue can theoretically happen   anywhere on the water jacket walls, it's most  common to occur on the passenger side below the   freeze plugs. If your engine ends up cracking,  there is a band-aid fix known as stitching,   where a machine shop will drill a hole at  each end of the crack in order to stop it,   however, this is really more of a  sketchy band-aid than a real fix,   with the only real fix literally being an entirely  new engine block, which as you can imagine,   is expensive to buy and also extremely expensive  on labor. Because of this, people who are looking   to buy a Cummins powered truck typically avoid  anything with the 53 block like the plague,   and luckily that's actually easy to do because  it's really easy to identify one of these blocks   by the large 53 that you'll find on the driver's  side front of the engine block near the injection   pump, and that brings me to my last point, which  actually takes us outside of the scope of the 5.9L   engine itself and to the transmission, and you  might have already heard that Dodge transmissions   are fairly bad, and well there's no lying,  they are kind of bad, but more specifically,   let's take a look at the 47RE, which is the  transmission that you could find in the 1994   to 2002 5.9L Dodge trucks. Problems with this  transmission range from getting stuck in gear,   the torque inverter failing to lock, hard shifts,  and so much more. And frankly, a lot of the issues   surrounding this transmission are simply due to  the fact that its components, such as the shafts,   clutches, and converters, are all much smaller  than they are on competing transmissions from   GM and Ford trucks. While GM and Ford use freshly  designed transmissions for their trucks, the 47RE   reuses an old design, including the use of bands  to shift gears instead of using clutch packs, like   other modern diesel transmissions. Really, the  47RE was out of date the second that it came out,   and that combined with the use of really  small components spells out disaster.   Starting with the main culprit for the 47RE's poor  performance, we have the low pressure line, which   is what actuates the bands in the transmission and  simply doesn't have enough pressure in stock form   to hold any decent amount of power. A stock unit  will only hold around 100psi of fluid pressure,   but with an upgraded valve body that can  be closer to 250psi, which will massively   improve the amount of power that the transmission  can hold. And then there's the problems with the   valve body pressure solenoid, which often results  in the truck getting stuck in first gear. The   solenoid works by energizing and de-energizing  to govern pressure and the transducer sends info   back to the ECU on fluid pressure and temperature.  The issue is when the transducer fails and sends   a wrong info to the ECU which then results in low  pressure and the transmission being able to shift   up. The solenoid can also fail and produce  incorrect amounts of pressure, which can   then leave the truck stuck in third gear. Then the  transmission bands also create even more issues.   For example, the band on the front  planetary gear set can become loose   and then that causes issues with shifting from  first to second and then second to third as well.   To put it really simply, the bands inside of the  47RE are weak and very often prematurely wear out   and can mess up shifting. On top of all of this,  the really poor electronics and the components   being too small, you can see why the Dodge  47RE transmission is basically a piece of poop   and it is literally the weakest point on a 5.9L  Dodge powered truck. The manual transmissions,   on the other hand, are not nearly as bad. So,  if you get the chance to buy a 5.9L truck, you   might want to lean towards a manual transmission.  And without a doubt, the 5.9L Cummins is the best   light duty diesel engine ever. I don't care what  you say, it's absolutely more reliable than any GM   duramax or Ford Powerstroke. But to be fair, all  older pre-emissions trucks are pretty reliable,   but the 5.9L is undoubtedly the most reliable,  with the 7.3L Powerstroke and the LB7 Duramax   coming up in a close second and third. That being  said, the 5.9L is a pretty basic and old-school   engine, so if you're looking for anything  that's clean or quiet and that doesn't leak oil,   the 5.9L is probably not the way to go. But I  don't think that's an issue, because I don't   think most people who are buying a 5.9L Cummins  Dodge truck are looking for something clean,   quiet, and efficient, and although it does have  some minor issues, once the killer dowel pin is   dealt with, it's really a fantastic engine  that's super super reliable, and other than   being backed up by a kind of garbage automatic  transmission, it is undoubtedly the best light   duty diesel truck out there. Besides the issues  that I mentioned in this video and a couple of   other really really small issues such as it just  leaking a lot of oil, there's really not that much   wrong with this engine at all. And honestly, most  of the issues are on the 24 valve engine and not   the earlier 12 valve engine. But the 12 valve had  mechanical injection, it was super duper reliable,   the 24 valve brought in that electronic injection  and that brought with it some issues. If you guys   like this video, be sure to smash the thumbs  up button because it really helps me out. Get   subscribed so you don't miss out on future videos,  drop a comment down below let me know what you   think about this video and what you want to see  in the future, i'll see you guys in the next one.
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Channel: Dust Runners Automotive Journal
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Length: 14min 27sec (867 seconds)
Published: Sun Jul 03 2022
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