EP. 62 - Peanut Butter and Jelly Podcast w/ Brian Teach

[Music] welcome to the J Ms podcast where we take a deep dive into different educational topics to help you optimize your life and man oh man I've been waiting for this episode or may I say episodes because I don't think this one's going to stay within the 20 minute uh time limit uh a lot of people may or may not know that had a podcast before called peanut butter and jelly tonight my jelly is on here with the peanut butter Mr Brian teach Mr Mullins I know I'm listen I think I have Reno at least put the peanut butter and jelly music into this one that you know either people are gonna love it or they're gonna gonna hate the song so yeah and and I think listen a lot of a lot of people I call them ogs they've been around with me you know since been with first form right so they've been there you know for five years they probably know who you are but we might have a lot of new people who you know even though you're a pillar of the brand you know you're not necessarily over inside the transformation you know era or or the fat loss anymore even though that's where like I would say your specialty is where you cut your teeth like inside of fit right you know but a little bit of background yourself and you got to tell us your your grass degree too uh so I guess you know my background with the company is you know I came on you know very early with the company there was only uh it was basically s and I uh in the in the early days and S handled you know sales and I handled customer service for the most part and we travel the country and tried to put the supplements in retail stores uh is really where the the the story starts and then my a job inside first form has evolved probably many times and continues to evolve um whether it was you know starting moving from customer service to getting the transformation challenge uh started and up and running with you and then moving into uh wholesale sales and taking over that side of things and now being kind of over the top of all businesso business sales helping with you know some of the product development flavoring and the new SKS that we launch over the years and that's a little bit of everything you know so um got your hands I'll play where you can put me in you know let's let's go got your hands in in different uh different pots or different uh playbooks you know for lack of ter lack of uh terminology but no you and I you know when I first got you know involved with the company and and we could sit and say hey there wasn't many of us and um at that time and maybe we were the old men of the group right we'll put put we'll put kid Still Still the old men of the group 100% right not we'll put kid into a different uh category on his own um you know but you and I developed you know a good relationship early on just you know as far as as life in general you know even before I even moved you know out to St Louis and then um of course when we got there you know the first three years spending a lot of time together you know inside of Education when it comes to the transformation Challenge and and especially if people had the app now like it was totally different in the early years of the app and then in the transformation challenge when the Facebook was the driver right and you know it was it was a website and Facebook right yeah yeah so we'll kind of go through that history um you know kind of tonight in this one and just for the listeners like hey this will probably be broken up into multiple um you know episodes just because there there's no way we can tell the story have some fun educate you in 20 minutes um so those will probably broken into to different parts as we as we go down the list um but yeah like you know I remember you know since the early days hey I had poor poor internet connection but we would kind of do this you know now that that you know it's kind of bringing me back you know with being remote with the company now is because a lot of stuff I am doing you know well 100% of the stuff I'm doing is remote but kind of going back to like old school where a lot of the education I'm doing is in this format right um it looks a little different you know educate more of the younger coaches coming up but in the early days like I remember we would do a lot of Facebook lives you know inside the Facebook where we just answer questions and and you know educate on topics and and we do interviews with coaches and and transformation winners and it's kind of the same thing we're doing now just on a different level with especially Iz teams doing it yep yeah for sure I mean we we had a ton of fun back then you know answering people's questions and you know your perspective versus my perspective and I think kind of teaching along the the the route that there's a thousand ways to skin this cat you just have to pick one and and stick with it long enough for it to start working there's no there's no magic route to uh success when it comes to Fitness and dieting we just we need you to to pick a route stick with it U for long enough for it to start working well and I think that really enabled us to develop what the app is today right and you know the background on that ladies and gents is you know teach was coming more from the bodybuilding background where people were maybe um already lean you know going into prep right or they were hard gainers trying to gain muscle tissue and you know predominantly fing more of meal plan yeah right so all of that right like doing more of a meal plan that that was you know you know I hate to use the term higher but you know in the terms it was higher carbohydrate lower fat right and it would be you know more of the meal plan that you kind of see still in the app to this day of hey you have a protein Source you have a starch source and you have a veggie source and you're going to do that four to five times a day with a post-workout Shake right I was coming more from you know a overweight where I coach most people were overweight right they had insulin resistance so I found better results with going low carboh hydrate a little bit higher fat right which is totally opposite of of your approach right and I think what we were able to do with working with each other was like I understand what you were saying you understood what I was saying and we were able to answer a lot of questions in different perspectives which I think is lost on a lot of coaches nowadays because they they it's like you gotta either do it this way or no other way yeah yeah for sure and you know it it's so confusing for the for the client um when you when you pigeon hole them into this one little certain way is the only way that works and you know it's just really not the case and I think even early days on the If It Fits your Macros was the health part of that diet was lost right it was you you know if you could make Skittles fit into the into the if it fit your Macros then it was okay and you know I think we both kind of combatted that and didn't really care for the macro counting in a sense because it was so badly adulterated in the form of eating unhealthy things and as long as the numbers added up you were fine it worked um and while it may likely did work um you weren't healthy because of it right you may have lost some weight but you were you were not consuming the foods that you should have been consuming to live a healthy lifestyle we definitely were not optimizing your results right and that gu was listeners you've heard me say this that was kind of where we developed the term of saying hey our macro counting is just a way of nutrition because all diets technically are macro-based diets right so we really kind of you know Steer it away from If It Fits your Macros to saying hey macronutrients or protein carbs and fat every diet out there is macro based right we want people to teach macro so that so that they learn it and be able to execute on the game plan 100% And you know something else you said and and I got this analogy recently from a client and it was awesome and I shared a little bit on social media today and it it hit what you said earlier right like there's many different ways to skin this cat and I think that's where so many people right now have problems right because what happens is they're on social media so they see this influencer saying you got to do this this influencer you got to get that this coach saying this this dietitian saying that and they may help look good right that influencer or they may be a coach that produces good results so automatically as an individual you're like I need to do that and what's happening people are not sticking with a plan long enough because they're like make a left turn right oh here's something new make a left turn here's something new make a left turn and then you're back to where you started and right so her thing was she was like hey Jeremy thanks for checking in you know I'm sorry I haven't been messaging you're doing check-ins Etc um you know it's on me and she gave me this analogy which was awesome she's like Jeremy you know something really hit me when my golf coach told me this and what the golf coach told her was I don't want you to listen to anyone else for the first six to eight months right he said only me for the first six eight months you listen to me when you become efficient at your golf swing in your game that's when you can start listening to other people try different stuff and see it works for you and she's like that's on me for not having that same mindset with you and I'm like oh my God that is an awesome analogy right so it doesn't matter right if we always say it like hey you want to be teach's way and you want to do you know meal plan higher carbohydrates cool stick with that be consistent build your Baseline right because then once you build a baseline we can make adjustments as coaches to produce optimal results yeah yeah I think you know reflecting back on how this all came about Jeremy was we we had that uh seminar and it was a Saturday and Sunday seminar and um you me S and and a couple other people battled each other uh speaking during that seminar because everybody had a different way of teaching and talking about results and how they saw results and what they did and um we actually look like uh we really didn't know anything no at the end of Saturday and we got uh to that to that hotel early on Sunday morning and we all sat down and and hashed out all right well what are we really trying to teach here what does it boil down to and how simple can we make this and you know I I believe um that we were some of the first people to start teaching along the lines of hey let's just make protein and calories a priority and everything else will fall in place and uh that that has led us to a whole lot of success over the past whatever five six seven years six years and I remember I remember I remember s wanting percentages right he wanted percentages so hard and you and it was you and I we looked at each other was like but you can't do percentages when you're on a lower calorie diet right because then you're not hitting enough protein right like I just remember it being and and it was one of those moments of one of the only few times I've seen s like acknowledged he like looked he's like you know what you guys are right and I think it was the moment of like just doing math in his head he took that he's like yeah you're right because if I'm on a400 calorie diet not that someone salze would need to be on a 1400 calorie diet but if someone was on a 1400 calorie diet versus a 2400 calorie diet with the same percentage of macros totally different sets of macronutrients right right right and I think some you know someone else wanted super low fat and you and I were kind of like it's it's too low fat and we kind of then like you said kind of hit in the middle on some of these numbers and that's how you know we got it to where like hey your fueling sources your carbohydrates and your fats don't matter for most people especially starting out right let's focus on protein let's focus on calories let's be consistent with that and drive it forward and like you said now we see this in in a lot of different you know domains whether it be research based right um we see some of the research coming out that now is saying this like hey you know isocaloric diet with protein remaining the same a low carb diet is not necessarily better than a high carb diet right same amount of fat loss as long as protein Remains the Same and you know and then we see it the fitness industry too a lot of other supplement companies a lot of of the dietitians nutrition programs are jumping on board with the protein and calories which is good to see as a as a yeah right but what what else have you you know seen like change in the industry you know over the two decades right because you and I are about the same age you know we've been you know even though you're early you joking around and you you skipped over this your degree is in what again it's in PL science taking care of golf courses is really what I originally went to school for growing grass so uh growing grass you could probably make a pretty good living growing grass and some parts of the country yeah well and some grass right like you're missing my yeah certain certain golf courses right certain golf courses okay um but you know what what have you seen change in the last two decades for the positive like what have you seeing like a most you know Health Care Professionals and you know whether we're talking clinical dietitians to to bodybuilders what other changes because I think protein calories has been one of those things that has you know changed what something else it doesn't have to be nutrition related yeah no I think in general uh supplements have gotten better um the companies are are are making better products you know the consumer is more educated so um companies had to make had to make better products than than what you know was around uh in the early days of of you know some of the pre-workouts and even protein powders that weren't really that greated protein powders um that that has all gotten much much much better uh obviously the flavor systems have have greatly improve the um the ability of of the powders to go into suspension um and and become you know a fluid again from that powder is way better than it used to be I mean back 20 years ago everything you drank was was pretty gritty um so um that has all all gotten much much better and I just think like in general you know if you if you go back 15 15 years it was the branch chain pre-workout world and everybody thought you needed a pre-workout and a branch chain in order to work out and you know now I think the because the consumer has become smarter we're paying more attention to using supplements to fill in those gaps in your nutritional needs and you know the greens products have become more popular protein prodct have become more popular fish oil is more popular the things that we're truly missing are doing much better overall uh in the product mixup instead of it just being this giant pre-workout world of uh of supplements yeah I mean yeah because I think you you look at for that like your omega-3 fatty acids your vitamin D maybe your magnesium things that that yes they're considered supplements but at one time almost had to be a script right like go to your doctor to get a a prescription for you know L example for Mega 3s right so I think that is you know a positive thing is is a I think a lot more people are aware of their health and wanting to be health so I think that's been a good change um we unfortunately don't see it in obesity rates um as far as Improvement right now but I I do think people are more aware and I'm like you I think a lot of people are better customers right so they're out there you know looking at you know for example very seldom now do you see um you know a Priory blend on a product right very seldom do you see that right it's kind of the opposite nowadays with supplements like we we want right you know as as me saying this as we as this first form like we want to showcase what's in our supplements right like and most most companies are like that they want to show off what's in there to show that they are a superior product yep yeah for sure and I think you know looking at vitamin D and and people recognizing that that is extremely useful in the fact that most of the population is low on vitamin D or magnesium and most of the population's low on magnesium and how implementing those using supplements can help you know charge those levels back up to where they're supposed to be and how much better you feel when they are where they belong well I think one thing too from an educating standpoint is like data has helped right where let using magnesium for example right um and even vitamin D so you can go now I mean you anyone right now could go online and click on you know uh private pay vitamin D and there's plenty of websites where you can go get your vitamin D tested right versus 20 years ago that was not option like you you had to go to your doctor you had to you know tell them why you wanted your vitamin D checked um then they're asking certain symptoms you don't have the symptoms like you could not get it checked right right so I think that type of thing has really um allowed people to realize another example would be like whoops and garments and things that we wear right like I can see a difference when I take magnesium an hour before bed when I don't take it like it's a staggering difference in the quality of sleep I get right so for a consumer if I'm putting myself as a consumer I can see that response I'm going to continue taking it right because I I can see it it's not that oh yeah jery it's not Placebo that's right you know so I think a lot of those things you know H have have changed over the last you know two decades you know since quote unquote we first started quote coaching and I say you know because guys like I was coaching people if put in the term coaching like training like I was a personal trainer in college my freshman year right like got a weekend Ace certification and you know worked at the YMCA in Huntington and was personal training people right like I look back now and I'm like man I didn't know [ __ ] right like I mean I knew calories you know yeah so I and going back at I have seen that change and I I I talked about this being probably the biggest mistake that I made early in my career was you know not not having people um you know do enough protein right you know so I think that is one thing that I have improved on um you know so yeah for sure I you know going back to those those early days uh of fitness and it's funny you say that you know you didn't know anything and that you know the good thing about us getting older is we realize we still don't know anything oh I mean listen I can tell people you know I just turned 44 and and you know I hope I'm a better coach at 54 right like I hope you know that I can truly say when I get to like the Pinnacle of my you know career and and I I want to educate and Coach into my 60s like I really think about that like I want to be an educator into my 60s right I I don't know if I want you know I I messaged my team this weekend I had drill weekend and you know a 10-hour drive to drill and if I leave try to spend time with the family I'm either sleeping in the car you know or pulling a close doll night or and I I uh at La time took a nap on the floor and I'm like I'm getting too old for this [ __ ] like but I still want to work into my 60s and educate right but I don't want to be pulling you know 60 hour weeks and sleeping you know on the floor you know 20 years from now um but yes that's what I hope right I hope I can look back and be like man I learned even more 44 to 64 than I did you know 24 to 44 that's the goal y yeah y you know that the the other thing I would put in there it's not nutrition or supplement related like I feel like resistance training has now become a norm and people know that you have to have it for Optimal Health right not only to decrease body fat or to look better but really for Optimal Health now I think that Mo and I say most people I got it like there's still a lot of people out there that don't know this information because maybe they've been working in you know whatever engineering for 20 years and are not focused on their health right but what I'm saying is inside of the the exercising nutrition field and I feel like it's gotten better now that everybody is recommending resistance training some form of yeah you those early days you know it was uh resistance training was only if you wanted to be a bodybuilder right if you were getting ready to get on stage or you had some sort of event or whatever and now to your point it's become much much more uh mainstream um and it just took a long time for that transition to kind of you know go all the way through to to the point that it is now yeah and I don't you know like like you said it was either your hardcore bodybuilders you know in the in the 70s um you know or in you know you had your powerlifters also that you know was in those clicks or those niches but it wasn't like wide spread kind of isn't is now right and I get it like you know most people will either do sometime a form of resistance training whether it be the bands or lightweight all that it's it's gotten better right you don't have just like the runners for example like I'm not picking up people who run you don't have that eror of just do cardio anymore you know think that's gotten you know got much better yeah for sure now from you know first form's early days right like even when I got involved with the company we didn't have as many SKS and products that we do now right where do you think the supplement world is going in the future right and not I'm not specifically talking about you know first form right so I'm not trying to get you to Spill the next corol product that you're working on um but just like in general like what do we see right like in the past few years you know we have you know started to produce more of healthy food options right from uh from protein bars to vegan bars to real food bars to the protein sticks um you know Energy Drinks like we we've got into that you know away not away from but spreading the wings you know versus just protein powders and and certain products you know where do you see that that going in the next 10 years yeah I mean I would think that that that healthy snacking category is going to continue to to expand and blow up um I think that the drinks are going to continue to get better I mean I think uh just even looking at what H has happened with hydration drinks you know they're they're slowly getting better and better and better um and they're not just uh you look at electrolyte drink it's not just sodium based people are starting to include magnesium and calcium potassium and you know they're they're putting a more uh diverse blend of electrolytes inside those products uh which ultimately like let's just face it as Americans we're not low on sodium you know I hate to tell you if you're out there exercising and you get a cramp it's likely not because of sodium it's because of magnesium or pottassium or calcium or one of those other electrolytes is out of balance and that's the issue that we're dealing with not not a not a low sodium amount um which is and that's good to see so I think you know inside that and you see um you know like uh the methylated vitamins becoming more popular for people with MTHFR I think that those types of things like we're going to see um more genetic based testing that tells you exactly what you're missing lacking and need to be consuming in order to um not only uh look better but feel better perform better uh um and in it's in this case with MTHFR maybe even even be happier right because of the neurotransmitter uh side of that yeah and I listen I I'm not a big energy drink Drinker right like I like the taste of them never was like you know where I would have to have them um you know but like I will say ours you is getting to the point where like they're really good and what I mean about that is they're not over caffeinated right which the old days we did with energy drinks right like people would just put a crap ton of caffeine into energy drinks and like that's chasing um you know so you're you're having a good a good dosage of caffeine you have electrolytes in there um you know so I I'm excited to see where that goes right like you know right now I still want us to make a sweet strawberry Cherry one so that's you know don't know how much pool you have in that but that's what I want like one of the really sweet ones well I have a lot of pool but I don't have pool to make stuff that you want yeah okay got you noted things have changed now I like our very dream um because it is more of a creamsicle which I like right but still I'm still waiting for that red one that is like really sweet you know it um and to drink that is my uh that is the the two things I want that's the ask that's the ask right um but I I agree I think you know nutriomics is the fancy term for you know nutrition in the study of of genetics um I'm I'm starting to get back into that I was uh I was taking a course on it from a old doctor I used to work with who' got kind of into that after you got Al bariatric practice you know two or three years ago and just life got busy and just haven't done it because it is kind of cool because you could run you know okay what genes do you have right and let's say a client you know has a certain genetic component for you know saturated fat increasing um LDL cholesterol right yeah there's some people that no matter if it's healthy saturated fat right it's grass-fed burgers it's uh coconut oil whatever the the case may be it could still increase your ldls um and just that stuff can like help you get out in front of things a little faster from a coaching standpoint versus like okay got to get you dialed in and we got to try different stuff you know from from so well to your point like it becomes uh it's become more of a longevity play um not just you know healthy or because I'm seeking some sort of results it's because we're trying to live longer and live live a a longer healthier life 100% which I think is is fun right because then the supplements become important for the rest of your life not just while you're trying to attain this XYZ goal okay so speaking on that have you had a chance or to look at any of the the research the data on um you know okay if you want to live longer there's two things that we look at right and it's V2 Max and um strength right so which kind of makes sense like you set back and look at it but I don't think it's the score that really promotes right you know so just because you have strength you know doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna live longer just because you have a good BO2 if you've naturally had those things throughout your life what I right yeah what I think with that is okay in order to have a good V2 then you have to be doing cardiovascular training and it's one of those things that if you are maintaining that into your older years you've had a pretty good V2 because it's going to slightly come down just as you age right same thing same thing for strength and muscle mass so way I look at is okay well those individuals that are having you know these good scores on their V2 and their the the good scores on muscle tissue or strength they're living longer without disease what do their lifestyle look like for the last 20 40 years right so that's kind of my take on have you have you been able to read any of that or have you just seen it in in the quotequote yes the circle sure and you know listen the strength thing could be as easy as you know you're not going to fall at a later age of life and break a hip or have some sort of catastrophic injury that that leaves you bedridden and you know those things are so important that you keep your strength up so that you don't get hurt in in those scenarios not just you know that muscle tissue is going to help with longevity but the fact that you're not going to trip and fall or break things easier with age uh is naturally gonna help increase longevity but for me Mullin I thought that when I retired I just had to move to a Blue Zone you know I watched that Netflix special and that would just naturally allow me to live longer is that not the case yeah was Costa Rica a Blue Zone I don't remember is that where you're going no well yeah I see you um just getting closer that was why I moved here right in steps right you know so it's like Florida just so we just so you're on the same page Florida was not in uh any of the conversations in the Blue Zone I do know that listen I'm more I'm more Southern Georgia than Florida you know always dream oh Florida living you know living in the beach no this is more uh think of what Georgia is Southern Georgia it's pretty um it's still country though which is which is okay um also but no I I I think reason I said Costa Rica I thought I saw someone post on social media talking about benefits of living in Costa Rica um and one of the the things was a blue zone I'm like what the hell's yeah I think there was uh there was a part of Costa Rica that was under that umbrella well I listen I my my take on that is this right and not I haven't watched the documentary yet but yeah dude I I think chronic stress oh yeah it was huge huge unstress and and I say that because you and I both you know went through these phases where you know we we I think we had to get to the point where there were certain things that we had to give up that we weren't stressing about right whether that be Perfection whether that be seeking uh validation those type of things right um and it was for me like I I care about the people I work with like we care about you know the first form we care about all these things okay um you know so I think what I had to take a step back because I was just driving my my you know quote fingers into Nubs you know trying to work and be like I got to get back to messages you know as fast as I can you know and then I realized like this is not life or death right like whether I get back to someone within two hours or four hours or within a 24hour period isn't going to it's not life and death we're not at War right but it took me a while to really be able to to to be okay with that you know early on but I remember like having you know poor blood work right you know as I joke like when I was you know just turned 40 fell to EKG right like and you know really I think it was just because of stress and and or maybe it could have been bad readings you know when they were putting the the things on me could have been too hairy too when they put the stickers you know I could have caus some bad readings um it was also like you know Katie and I were having testing done that was before we got pregnant with our third child and like my sperm count dropped right so it was okay six months you know before and all of a sudden it dropped like there was just all of a sudden a lot of these things that just you know healthwise were just off the mark and and I I contribute to stress right because everything else was I was got think I'm just overstressed over stressed and it took me to be like really be okay with hey Jeremy you've got to relax on some of these standards that you set for yourself right like yeah you didn't set them right s didn't set them the company didn't set them there there was just things that I had set to myself about like and really become unrealistic with the volume of people that I was coaching right you know so I think chronic stress is something that people need to really look at you know and and build adjust and I totally get it we can sit here and say well just don't stress over that hey I got it it's easier said than done but you really got to be able to to prioritize what are the important things in life and you know what are some of the things you're stressing on that might not be that important well yeah and and I think you know the things you care about doesn't necessarily mean that if you're anxious or stressed out about them means that you care about them more right and I think you know during our previous podcast that the peanut butter and jelly time like I my world I was in a [ __ ] storm yeah you know I had been uh fairly you know whatever within a a handful of years um divorced I had had a couple of uh failed relationships um following into that and and all of those things were due to the fact that I was trying to be everything to everybody except to myself yeah right that was that was the problem and I had to do like a massive um you know when I say I hit rock bottom I hit an emotional Rock Bottom because my anxiety was through the roof and um I couldn't please anybody including myself and the reason I couldn't please anybody is because I was the most miserable person in the in the group right so um I really had to go back and and reset that and figure out like all right well where's this all coming from why does it exist and you know it's amazing how much better of a job you can do pleasing people uh when you please yourself first and then you have a whole lot more energy to uh help everybody else out and I was drastically failing uh on that side of things yeah and I mean you're still ugly and you got married remarried so yeah something something happened something I mean she she doesn't see very well so that's good and English well I shouldn't say that English is your first language just barely so she can't see well you guys can't really talk so you think he thinks everything's great perfect she's gonna kill us yeah probably no but she's not here right now though so but I think you know thinking of the Blue Zone you know from like I said I need to watch it you know but just seeing that post in the you saying it like I can think of that with Costa Rica you know ay they eat a lot of fresh food there right a lot you know a lot of yeah the people aren't as stressed they work hard right but they don't work long hours right like you know there's not this this big stress of you know um you know quote unquote burning the candle with both ends you know so I bet there's a lot of things that's going to be in common with that um but buddy I I think we moved to the Blue Area once we're in our 50s and 60s like I don't think it's going to matter you know oh that didn't count I don't I mean listen don't don't ruin the story that I'm telling myself who froze up me or you shav all right the topic I do want to talk about oh this is old old Tom internet is unstable gotta have it love it yeah some somebody dropped I'm not sure I think we're back up though yeah we didn't miss anything except for me calling you old and talking about your gray hair okay I got lots of gray there ain't no doubt about that I do want to educate a little bit um because you help me learn more of this early on with insulin resistance right um the importance of resistance training and how you know okay resistance training from a muscular standpoint once we start resistance training that muscle cell is going to want to uptake you know glucose much better right right and you know that was just something that I did even though know like early in my career if I had a diabetic you know I would have them try to work out twice a day even if it was shorter workouts to get like a better response but I didn't know the mechanisms that were involved in that to be like early in my career um and that was one thing that that that I'll you know have no problem biting or or putting my ego to the side and say that hey I did learn you know from you is that so I do want to discuss a little bit of that tonight like when people are resistance training you know from a metabol extend point right so you're taking someone who is untrained right we can put the definition of sick on there right there's insulin resistance going on um let's talk about what what happens but also why that could lead to a little bit of weight gain yeah the muscles come good become better at storing glycogen right yeah so I think you know what what happens you know inside well I guess can we rewind a little bit because think that there's there's some things that happen with with um insulin resistance that I think it it's a a little bit of a misnomer right people automatically want to assume that it's genetics and they just throw their hands up in the air and they say you know what I can't control it it's genetics my so and so was this way and so and so and so and so and so and so and they can name all of these people in their family that have the same issue and I think a lot of times if we dig in into those issues it has less to do with genetics and more to do with ancestral eating and the the habits of how those people consume food and the reasons why they consume food and how those were passed down um from generation to generation to generation and it it really doesn't have as much to do with genetics as we would like to although I will say that there are some people that are going to be naturally more genetic or they're going to have some insulin resistance based on genetics but I think what happens is go ahead I was just say and I'll argue there and I still need to do this is on my list of and maybe you know you you and I do this one together so inso resistance I I need to educate on we talked a little bit a little bit about on a different one and I still need to do PCOS I still need to do uh uh non-alcohol fatty liver so there's a couple educational topics I need to do which you know I may have you come on do with me because be a we can do some bad jokes be a little bit more fun but what you were saying I and this is jimy mullen's opinion right it's good thing I have my own podcast I can have my own opinion right it is like I but I'll argue with you I agree with yeah with that um you know I don't need to have everybody in my life agree with me right that's the reason I'm invited you on here I need someone's gonna you know give me [ __ ] and disagree um but it's like loading a gun right so yes unless you pull the trigger and the pulling trigger is the lifestyle so so if you have a genetic disposition to have insulin resistance but you follow a lower carb lifestyle where you're get most of your carbohydrates from let's say berries vegetables and maybe on average one serving of starches a day you work out resistance training you know four to five times a week you walk every day you won't develop diabetes right you won't get diagnosed as a type two diabetic even though you're pre depos or have a predeposition for insulin resistance okay yeah if you eat the standard American diet of fast food multiple times a week don't work out have a des job 100% you're more likely to get to develop it yep yeah and I think you know to your point like the the lack of movement right is one of is a huge contributor because the the muscle has no reason to uptake glycogen at that point and if you're overc consuming carbohydrates and your blood sugar is going through the roof well your muscle can only absorb so much anyways so now we're putting even more um sugar into the blood system or into the bloodstream rather and the and insulin is going to get uh elevated even higher and higher and higher to remove that um glucose from the blood now I think one of the things that uh we kind of covered lack of movement there and overeating right in the same token but I think one of the things that sometimes gets missed in in this conversation is that undereating can do the same thing right if you're under consuming food then your muscle is naturally going to want to uptake less uh energy right because it wants to use that energy to stay alive in in other facets so we see that a lot too where somebody is grossly an undereat and then they weigh overc consumed food at one at one period of time right so under during the week and then overc consumed food on the weekends and this can lead to some scenarios where insulin becomes an issue as well gotcha and what would be the lower dosage of resistance training right so you know having someone that was brand new right and they were going to start resistance training how much do you think that they need to be able to have a positive response when it comes to insulin resistance oh man I think that you can get away if if you're if you're not messing around in the gym you know you 20 to 30 minutes three times a week is a great place to start it doesn't I don't think it needs to be a whole lot more than that and that greatly reduces the amount of insulin resistance that that muscle cell seeing at that point 100 per. yeah I don't and that that's me I don't think you know I even if someone did like a Tabata right you know four sets of squats and push-ups and you know sit-ups like and and you know once again like if they put a little bit of effort into that like I think they can see some positive results you know when it comes to to that you know scenario and I think there's a lot of things like you know going back to the genetic component you know when it comes to cholesterol when it comes to um you know where you carry your body fat at right like what your body fat percentage is I think there's a lot of things that go into that but it still comes back to you have control right you as an individual have the control to make the changes make the the choices on a day-to-day basis right and I think sometimes as humans though we feel like things are out of our control when it comes to these situations right or we we we are looking for that physician or that medical person to say you know what teach it's okay you know you have a you know you're you're predisposed to to to be overweight all right cool I got an excuse but now what yeah I got a justification right you and and and I think you know that's where a lot of people you know go wrong in that that you know that case so yeah yeah last question tonight for you actually I got two more questions okay one's educating the last one is going to be like yes or no question right yeah so but hey we're do we're racing together right that's what I hear we are we are I rode uh I rode 30 miles this morning and then ran I only ran three this afternoon but um it was a it was a decent ride this morning nice I got uh I Ruck to yesterday morning ran 8 uh Ruck two this morning um life happened I was supposed to have a um 60 Minute kind of five minute intervals on the the concept to didn't happen so I'm going try to knock that out tomorrow I'm gonna run a half on Thursday morning and then I'm supposed to ride a 100 on Saturday we'll see how we see we'll see how that goes you're gonna run a half on Thursday yeah but it's GNA Marathon yeah it's the Mull's Trot though you know like going to be walking the hills answering messages right like got it got it yeah it's not going to be a the effort is not going to be full out it is going to be zone two jogging any incline you know answer some messages that type of uh that type of run if that makes sense well I can tell you this much you don't have to ride the concept to too many times for over an hour before you're uh well inclined to get out of bed and hit the hit the road I I think the concept to is a great training tool you know and I say that because you know I've been in the the the cast for six weeks eight weeks and that's all I did and was all I was able to do and then I went out and rode 60 on my uh Tri because I could put my brace and I hope my PT is not listening to me or my doctor right um yeah I went out the Road 60 miles in the arrow bars right because I there was no risk of it going to full extension so I just put it into the arrow bar so like the only risk was wrecking but hey I I I assume that risk um and rad 60 and felt fine right a little bit of Saddle soreness because I hadn't been in the saddle that long but as far as like you know heart rate and and muscles like felt good so the concept to I think is a g a good training tool right oh it's just the uh pedaling in one place is y me mentally and physically because remember outside you know you kind of can let up off those pedals and Coast down the heel you let up you let up on the concept too and it just stops all right to C out I what I was gonna ask you oh what was the question see thre me off Target talk about training you're welcome well I'll move to this question what do you think about coming on and doing kind of old school and what I mean by that is you know we used to do a lot of the live streams together before they were live streams when I used to carry the camera around and and uh you know wherever I was at do the the live streams on the app and now there's this cool like setup and they got multiple cameras in there I'm like I feel like the old guy that's like yeah back in my day you know I that's right when we shared an office back in the days when we shared an office yes and good God love Will's it his ice just crunch on that ice some days love you will but gosh um but but I would like to you know for this next challenge right so first for on the first one map we'll have a um you know challenge drop sometime around July you know first of July it could be pushed back a week it's never been early in in uh in June so probably around July around July 4th we'll drop another challenge it'll be our summer challenge um I would love to get on here you know once a week with you and do basically like okay this is week zero you know you're getting ready to start your Wellness Journey what do you need to focus on and kind of make it more specific about the challenge um yeah what are you gonna expect what's gonna happen what are you gonna feel 100% I've done it in I've done I haven't done it like specifically for eight-week challenge or you know once again doesn't have to be aweek challenge you know if if someone's on here and they're like they're not on the app for whatever reason like hey you can download the app that's how you can work with me for $12.99 a month um but you know I think it's good maybe someone's got like a 20-year reunion coming up right or hey they got a vacation to a Blue Zone that's tropical I'm G say they all blue zones are tropical now in my mind um you know what what do you do what does it look like for eight weeks right yeah um and I think that would be something cool and good information to put out if if you're yeah because I think you know regardless if you're doing a challenge or you're not doing a chall if you start a diet these are going to be the things that you're going to experience 100% you know regardless so you know let's let's go ahead and throw those things out there so you can know what to expect um which is is a huge part of the battle right if if anybody any coaches on here if you don't teach your clients um what to expect throughout this process man they're going to they're going to out question the process at some point when the when when the results don't come they're gonna they're out you know what I mean if they don't come fast enough they're gone that's why I need you here that was my question I was like I was gonna ask you what percentages in coaching you know do you think is the game plan or helping people overcome themselves like yeah no it's uh it's 80 to 90% overcoming yourself yeah it is you know making sure and and you have to be good you have to be well-versed in how to talk people out of the fact that they don't know everything like you didn't come to me because you know you know how to do this you came to me because you needed help and I'm here to help you and I want to make sure that I teach you you know what what is going to happen along this process because if we don't do that then then you're GNA give up quick you know if if I'm driving to to to you from my house and and you don't tell me up front that it's going to be a 12h hour drive well two hours in I'm gonna get real disappointed because I could have swore I should have already been there you know what I mean and and then we start missing turns and we don't get on the right Highway like there's there's too many things that you you have to explain those things up front and if you're not fully aware of them you you'll quit and that's what we see time and time again and then people just think that dieting is not for them dieting and quotation marks right let's let's re re reframe that into a healthy lifestyle is just not for them the results aren't for them and that's just not true the truth of the matter is is that you just haven't probably a given a a a process that could work long enough for it to work I love it second part of that I think this would be fun um and down the road right because we got a lot going on you know the peanut jelly podcast would now be two years three years old like since it's been gone since we did it oh [ __ ] man it's older than that yeah so I think what would be cool because once again we're always learning is to go back and you know listen to the topics that we did cover those topics but also like what has changed right if anything has changed now yeah we know that our perspective has changed because we're three years in right like if we go back and listen to the protein one that we did I guarantee you know one of the perspectives I have is I'm more aggressive with protein intake now than I've ever been right espec especially in Fat Loss clients right yeah I I have no problem once we're in the journey you know this is 2024 you realize this 20 24 right like we were recording that podcast in the middle of Co it was like not even we were recording in the beginning of Co listen the years fly by buddy what is it the days are long and the years are short I mean I think that thing's like four years old at this point okay well that even better because it'll be like that's gave it plenty of time to change so I was thinking about that today you know um is you know and and if we can still if we still have the recording if we had the recordings we could do like a short um you know kind of recap right like come on here do something new I think I think they're still up are they not still up I have a they may still be up you guess in search for It's peanut butter and jelly podcast um so if it's still up go listen to it but what we will game plan doing is kind of refurbishing those and what refurbish is if we can pull the data which I'm pretty sure we can we'll just in introduce the data into a podcast but then you and I can start it out by you know doing any changes um to it what we think about it you know that type of stuff so kind of almost like a a you know hey we got this one spot on and we're were good or we'll be like hey we've changed what we think about when it comes to this right so I think that would be kind of a cool I don't want say back in time you know step back in time but I think it would be kind of neat to to do so if you're up for those two things I I would like it sure absolutely well guys and gals I hope you have enjoyed this Blast from the Past having some fun with my man Mr teach if you guys are interested in the first form app you can download the first form app and you can add me as your coach advisor just um add me via the email Jeremy at first form.com don't forget our partners of the podcast Summit Rejuvenation get your blood work done get your Baseline line you know set um no matter where you're at if you're in your 20s get a set it's probably going to be good everything's going to be good in your 20s do it again five years later kind of monitor that as you go along if you're getting up there in age like Mr teach here and you do not have any financial advisors check out Greenup uh wealth they will take care of you from the financial end so my man what's one thing that you would have someone who is new starting their Wellness journey to wrap this up tonight what is one thing if someone was in the elevator with you and they said Hey how do I get started what would you tell them protein you gotta have you got to hit you know one gram of of uh protein per pound of gold body weight like that's just start there that's it the reason why you start there is because it's the hardest thing to do and you're not going to see the success that you want to see without doing that awesome love it guys thanks for listening I know this one was uh once again I know how Reno will break it up he'll probably break it into two or three of them if we do break it into two or three sessions we will put them right in a row so you don't have to wait on them appreciate you guys and I hope you have a wonderful day see you guys

Channel: Jeremy Mullins Podcast

Views: 40

Keywords: Nutrition, Fitness, Health, Wellness, Podcast, Education

Id: uvx2ODYwZ9w

Length: 58min 23sec (3503 seconds)

Published: Sun Jun 30 2024