EP-58 | Sanatana Dharma and Indian Spirituality with Sadhguru

greatest crime committed on this planet is the idea of Heaven you're looking at the calendar images that kind of yogis their their artists work the yogis were never like that you look at adiyogi the first joke is the most exuberant and athletic human being you can find journalists particularly they come to The Yoga Center one film star or one Minister somebody is there their focus is only that there are other thirty thousand forty thousand other people your cameras never caught them I've never gone to any politician any powers that be including God asking for something I've never prayed in my life right now people are talking about mental health pandemic I know this will get me heavy Trolls but I must say this to them if you do not understand your physical and mental health is your responsibility one important thing Indians have been lacking is that we've always been accused of not having strategic thinking the world is looking at as one of the greatest possibilities on the planet we are a civilization who strategized thousand years later what we will be doing at one time people call me saturu according to their experience I am telling you my problems I will die as a failure I know that but I am a blissful failure [Laughter] welcome to another edition of ani podcast with Smitha prakash I have a sore throat and an allergy cough but I didn't cancel my schedule I didn't try to reschedule the shoot because of what my guest had said last year to a podcaster he said that despite having serious ailments like typhoid and malaria he never canceled a shoot not the thousands of them that he had scheduled you must have guessed by now who my guest is sadhguru a yoga Guru Mystic philanthropist and author of dozens of books a podcaster he has millions of followers around the world satguru has been awarded the Padma vibhushan the second highest civilian award for his contributions to spirituality and humanitarian Services thank you so much for coming our podcast I'm very honored that you're here A whole host of topics that I want to speak I spoke to you about a year ago we were just coming out of you know the pandemic at that stage so most of my questions were about how to cope with grief and what tools we can um you know we can employ in your guidance on that on how we can come out of it but um today you know I want to ask you so much more I heard your because I heard this interview that you did with Joe Rogan and I really really liked that podcast Joe is a wonderful guy he's one of those guys who whoever comes to him he lets them speak he understands he need to ask questions and wait for people to find expression it's not a shoot and Scoot kind of thing it's very nice that way but if with his questions on mysticism and all that unfortunately I could not address his uh inquiries about mysticism because that was just pre-save soil movement I went there mainly for that purpose to create support for that so I kind of avoided those things because you know people make controversies of all these things yeah but still I think you explained uh many questions which you know uh people who don't understand much about what is the difference between spirituality between being religious between seeking between knowing you you kind of explain that beautifully in that so those who haven't seen it please log on and it's a very long one you can get it on Spotify but of course today uh you know in that in uh podcast you spoke about the concept of Heaven um in all religions there is a concept of Heaven in many of you know many people feel that this uh life is a preparation for the next life but if you speak say that to the children today they look and say what nonsense that's not true see the greatest crime committed on this planet is the idea of Heaven because the moment you tell someone this is not the place to live well there's another place where you're going to go and live well it's a crime against humanity it is because you're making sure people don't live well here they'll wait to live well elsewhere I'm asking do you have any proof that you are not already in heaven and making a mess out of it yeah there isn't or hell uh that's up to you so essentially Human Experience can be either like heaven or like hell so people say they come to The Yoga Center and say oh satguru you've created a heaven I said don't say that this is planet Earth and it's a most beautiful place that we know don't say that another place is there which is more beautiful than this which is better than this this is because you're living badly you think there's another place where you will go and live well all the sort of people that they say they went to heaven I don't want to be in their company yeah true I know but you know uh you're talking about thousands of years of prophets and gurus and yogis who have been telling us no no don't blame the yogis yogis never talked about going to heaven it is only the heaven idea is a very Western idea when I say Western I'm talking West Asian idea oh okay otherwise there is no Heavenly business here here you've always been told your life is your karma and you have to make it happen the way you make it happen and there is a possibility of life being cycle cyclical and you can transcend the Cycles if you wish or you can go through the cycles nobody said you're going to heaven and permanently be there in one place I am saying suppose I will send you to the most beautiful Resort on the planet but we will pick at it in such a way that you can't cross it you have to live there only forever not for your lifetime forever you think it'll be great it'll be just like any prison all right so this is the idea of Heaven it's supposed to be very beautiful but once you go there there's no way out I don't want to go there yes that brings me to one question which I was going to ask later you you're one of those uh who has broken stereotypes you know of a of a guru of a yogi of a Mystic person who uh you know extricates himself from the worldly uh life you you dance you sing you play golf you motorcycle you travel the world you wear lovely clothes is that lowly it is it is they protect you you seem to I designed my own clothes I want you to know okay it's from natural fiber I can see yes that's a part of my mission Save The Weave is one of the projects that we're doing okay to bring back natural fiber because one of the worst kind of pollution that is happening is because of the clothing like they say an average American has about 28 grams of polyurethane in their body and this is one of the biggest causes for cancer and things like that and fashion industry is the third largest polluter on the planet so these things are happening and nobody looks at it because everybody is focused on something that's visible it is the smoke that comes out of the automobile that everybody is interested in everybody is interested in that lowly plastic bag which is floating around I'm not saying they should not be fixed but especially in Western countries and it's become true in our country also now nearly 90 percent of the clothes that children wear or polyethylene 92 percent of the world's fiber is polyethylene already non-biodegradable yes and when children wear this especially when children wear this before 15 years of age if they wear this polyurethane clothing uh any kind of synthetic clothing they get poisoned so you are wondering why somebody's autistic why this and that if I say this below where is the research where is the fact I'm saying see you will find facts after a massive numbers of people right the fact is we know what it does we know it enters your bloodstream we know it's entered the soil we know it's entered the water we know it centered our food cycle we know it's in the air so one of the important things I've been pushing this with the governments to at least school children make it that they are wearing either cotton anything okay which is natural it will make a huge difference at least the government schools make it but it's still not happened everybody is using Terra cotton terlin and whatever it's not so much because it is cotton and fighting percent this thing it's okay I would say because it demands less maintenance but a Time Has Come and the richest people in the world are wearing crumply clothes once again you know in California I'm in somebody's house who's really up there in the movie thing and all that so when I go our volunteers ask is there an iron box the what this is not a kind of house where we'll have an iron box iron box is an insult it's for those kind of impress permanent press clothes right no no they're not pressed they all wear crumply clothes because that's fashionable that's the most expensive clothing so when there is a fashion like that we must all get into little crumbly clothes it's all right yeah I'm also into a little bit of crumbly clothes so but my question when are you say stereotype where did your stereotype come from you're looking at the calendar images of those uh you know long bearded constipated look on their face that kind of yogis their their artists work the yogis were never like that you look you look at adiyogi the first joke is the most exuberant and athletic human being you can find you look at all the gods that you have in this country if they don't dance they cannot be gods in our country non-dancing God not allowed in this culture a man who cannot dance how can he be even a human being forget about being a god dancing with ecstasy because of spiritual yes it is not some train dancing see dance is like laughter when you're when you're bubbling with joy you laugh all right it's not like you're trained to laugh naturally it comes to you it's not that somebody has to tell you a joke life is funny if you look at it carefully it's very very funny if you look at it in the surface it's dead serious but if you look at it carefully enough it's quite funny how people come do all this and tomorrow morning they disappear and everything is fine all right it's quite funny so if you see in one level you will laugh when your body wants to laugh it will dance it's it's a consequence of exuberance it is not some special kind of dance you have to do this joy and exuberance you feel it's very much part of uh Indian culture or it's part of life it's part of life it's part of life life is exuberant you just look at this children below that is also unfortunately is happening 12 13 year old children are depressed and committing suicide all these things unfortunately the worst thing that can happen to humanity but you look at any child anywhere in the world being exuberant is natural look at a butterfly look at a grasshopper look at anything everything is exuberant what went wrong with you is just this you became dead serious about life you're dying to live people are dying to live that's a very in-depth stage you're alive anyway and when you really look at it how long are you alive if you look at this even if you live to be hundred but what potential a human being carries it's too little if you explore the potential otherwise it may feel very long I mean in your own experience you can look back and see any given day on a day when you're very joyful 24 hours poof it goes away like a moment someday if you're a little frustrated or anxious or depressed about something then 24 hours feels like a eon of time this is because only miserable people can have a long life is miserable by Nature not at all so you the reason I'm asking said guruji is because recently there was some uh something that came on the happy studies nonsense that is all see I travel everywhere in the world everywhere we go at least Western societies if you go to Africa and all it's different but Western societies if you travel there are many notches above us in terms of material comfort and you know that whatever is organization of life but they will all in the evenings after the drink they will all be laughing during the work can they laugh when they're driving can they laugh most of them can't even smile okay unfortunately in big cities in India also it's becoming like that but when I land in India you will see many more Smiles brighter Smiles natural ones not trained ones simply bursting out so when you were a child at the age of five if you were so joyful by the time you're 30 you should have become ecstatic if you were growing but unfortunately the reverse happens simply because your psychological drama overtakes the existential reality of Life otherwise if you pay attention to anything a flower can engage you for the rest of your life a leaf can engage you for the rest of your life why if you pay attention one atom can engage you for the rest of your life it's so complex and fantastic what makes you ecstatic I've seen you at the video went viral everywhere you were ecstatic when you were dancing there was so much joy what made you feel that at that moment I'm I was not at that moment I'm like that every moment I must tell you this because you've heard all this I don't know what to speak to you and what not everything see this is I'm going to tell you my problems now okay I don't believe this at least look uh listen I should listen with the grave some gravity okay right this is the problem people think if something important has to be handled it has to be they must be grave No Grave means you must be in the earth you shouldn't be outside you have no business to be sitting here and being grave you must be in the grave isn't it right so I'm you know I'm going about my life initially I go through from the age of 12 I start practicing yoga just for physical progress and it definitely set me apart physically and mentally then by the time I'm 12 13 I'm um very by then I've read you know thus capital and angles and stuff and everything I am fully fired up wanting to join the armed Revolution oh my God because uh my thing is Injustice I see Injustice in politics I see Injustice in the economic situation I see Injustice in religious things that are happening I see Injustice within the family I see Injustice everywhere so I'm I'm simply angry all the time not against anybody I am simply angry all the time because wherever I see I see Prejudice and in the injustice so in that anger I thought armed Revolution is the only way out at that time it was boiling everywhere in Southern India seventies yeah yeah it was boiling a lot so you wanted to become part of it I almost was on the verge of it their own corruption saved me then I went there and then I saw they were also full of corruption the corruption they were supposed to fight they were even more corrupt then I backed off where am I going you know yeah so later on I evolved into a hardcore atheist cool yeah because essentially anything that does not fit into my logical Escape I could not digest those things uh I'm not somebody who values something because somebody has said it however important they are it doesn't matter it's my parents or uh God is God himself spoke or his messenger spoke or whoever spoke for me it's of no value unless it makes sense to me so nothing made sense to me people are talking all kinds of things and everybody says somebody said something so essentially what this means is in their minds the authorities the truth for me the truth is the only Authority from then to now it's still the same thing nothing changes for me that is very deep yes truth is the only Authority I have I don't value any Authority so naturally becoming atheist is natural when you think logically everything logically certain things fall into place rest of the things don't fall into place so you keep on discounting everything that doesn't fall into logical space so then I I traveled the crisscrossed India on my motorcycle and I've seen this nation like very few people would have seen I didn't go to any destination I just rode across just the terrain the people I slept in The Villages I slept on roadsides I slept in Railway stations bus stations you know I I just all the money I had was only for the patrol in my motorcycle and I ate barely cheapest possible food I ate and I didn't spend one rupee for my sleeping I always I slept on my motorcycle most of the time you know this is South India or did you travel okay you traveled up to Nepal this side and decided Rajasthan only Northeast I did not do at that time okay mostly almost the whole country what were you seeking see I was not seeking anything all I knew was what I knew what I perceived was not enough I knew this is not it but I don't know what it is see this is the whole thing people need to understand they say I'm seeking God see when you say you're a Seeker you become a Seeker you're seeking is genuine only when you don't know you already know there is God and you're seeking this is a fake seeking you do not know that's why you seek isn't it when you realize you do not know you start seeking so my problem was this why I look like this why is this wall blocking my vision I want to look like this so I am doing crazy things with my mind trying to look Beyond and people I mean it'll look absolutely nuts because there are troll armies which will go at me but there are things you can do with your senses which you have not imagined possible such as you can look you can look the other side of the wall if you want there are ways to do it there are many creatures who are doing that all right with the kind of vision that we have it's not three-dimensional it is not it is only reflection yeah all right but your vision is not just about seeing you can see things that you have not seen all right say for example you go into the forest uh the panther there or a tiger there doesn't have to see you if you're somewhere behind the tree or on top of the tree that's his nose yes this issue he knows exactly where you are all right he need not physically see you but he knows exactly where you are most of the time they're surviving and finding their food only by sense of smell so I kind of spend time in the jungles looking as if I just walk into your room if there are let's say five people with eyes closed if I walk in I'll tell you there are five people and what kind of people this is not Magic this is just keenness of attention so in all these years of non-stop riding driving crazy things I've never hit anything people you know like I was writing with kaveri calling these all these kannada film stars they were writing so I'll go to the way you're writing what are you thinking about you just keep going going what is it what I said why am I thinking anything I don't think anything I'm just writing but if there is one rule that you follow when you're riding what is it the Only Rule that I follow followed is never collide with anything and still now I am not okay okay you still ride yes you're saying that you were not seeking anything but were you I'm not saying I'm not seeking anything I'm seeking what I'm saying if you already know what you're seeking did you know no if you already know you're not a Seeker I am saying so what were you honing what skills were you honing or what were you what was happening then I felt kind of caged inside the body I thought this is too limited there must be something Beyond I don't know what that is I am I did not grow up in any spiritual or any kind of culture tradition it's a very agnostic family there's no for enforcement of religion or anything with us so only thing is they want us to educate which I refuse to do so you did go to school and college and everything and you didn't mentioned in the direction of the school okay not inside okay it didn't interest you no I spent time in the libraries but I never really sat in classrooms much both in school and college very rarely I went there so the important thing is human beings have assumed too many things you can call it Society you can call it religion you can call it education it's all full of assumptions so essentially even in school when you went through school they rewarded your memory they never rewarded your attention isn't it there's a basic mistake we've done with Humanity we are not rewarding the attention it's the human attention which opens up doors human memory you call that knowledge but today artificial intelligence is coming computers are coming what the hell will you do with your memory right now they're all feeling insecure what about our jobs I have been saying this for years anything that you can grasp as data analyze and express a machine can do better than you I've been saying this for over 20 25 years but now it's coming becoming a reality all the academics others wondering what will happen to us you will have no job and it's fantastic the teachers have no job it's really fantastic isn't it why would you say that why why not I'm saying see this happened in 70s I remember this so well in mazagon docks they installed the first uh gantry at that time a hundred and twenty five thousand ton ship was the largest ship they would take 24 to 28 days to unload one ship the cool is going up and bringing things when they put the first Gantry they said what are we supposed to do our muscles what are we supposed to do with this and they went on strike they closed down the docks for many weeks or so at that time and you wondered what are these guys doing so now there are gantries in every port a million ton ships are emptied within 24 hours correct all right so what are all the schoolies doing they're obviously doing something else so these intellectual coolies also will find something to do satguruji you know in that uh Joe Rogan show you spoke about some mystical happenings which happened uh when you went to kailash mansarovar what is it that you saw there uh in at you know that 2 30 a.m that you saw which you thought that there was something that happened could you tell us what happened at kailash mansarovar see there is a phenomena that maybe a lot of people are unaware of this when lightning happens it's possible twenty percent of the lightning will be going from Earth to Sky most of the lightning is coming from there up to down yeah about 20 percent could be happening from Earth to Cloud that's not what it is it's not lightning what's happening there all I have to admit is I don't know really it's just that you see certain things this is the most incredible thing about creation even if you are here for a million years still the damn thing will surprise you and freak you because I people have been telling me about this kailash and you know this and that I'm not a pilgrim kind of person for me if my if I close my eyes I'm done that's my pilgrimage but everybody's saying I thought one time trip we will make to kailash oh my God what it is unbelievable jelly oh yeah it is the most incredible thing on the planet so it is essentially this is a tradition where when people realized something very difficult to find somebody who will be able to receive that so how to store it the need to store it if you articulate it in words it'll be all misunderstood people will make fantastic stories about it and lose the whole thing so one way of storing it is they will find a space which is hard to approach but not impossible to approach when I say this they would store it in a place like kailash but not on Mount Everest that is nearly impossible to get there but not a place where there's too much of human traffic a place where it is secluded where those who really want to go can go common people who are not curiosity Seekers cannot easily go today of course we are flying in there and everybody is driving in uh four-wheel drives and getting there that's a different matter but in those days if you want to go to kailash it's a orders Journey it's not a simple thing and there's the China Factor no there was no China Factor at that time because people there is history of over 12 000 years Tamil devotees have been going to kailash from Southern India for 12 000 years imagine a Tamil man all right in that cold weather no no down jackets no thermal this and that nothing maybe at the most he picked up on Woodland rug somewhere and rain and cold and snow and works walking four thousand kilometers and going and coming back something should fire them isn't it yeah this is not for livelihood it is there's no gold out there to go in search of that is it just a board of Shiva that's why people went see when we call it an abode of Shiva see why somebody valuable to us after over 15 000 years why is one man valuable to us because of what they offer to us isn't it so many people would have lived in this fifteen thousand years we don't care whether they existed or not maybe we don't know where they were what they did but why do you remember one person because of the knowledge base this knowledge base was offered in many ways why we built this adiyogi to 112 feet is because of this because he offered 112 methods as to how a human being can attain to their ultimate nature when I say ultimate nature let's put it in modern language see today you are who you are 30 years ago did you had this did you have the same skills that you have today no no isn't it so 40 years later did you have the same skills that you had at 30 no no so there is something that you evolve it I'm not just talking about profession I'm saying as a human being you can horn yourself slowly if you work on it some people never do anything they think once they finish their high school they're done yeah but others on themselves either with work or with study or with sadhana one way or the other people are some kind of sadhana they are doing isn't it you may be doing journalistic sadhana somebody may be doing political sadhana somebody may be doing spiritual sadhana some sadhana they are doing to constantly evolve themselves to the next way of being so what would be the ultimate of what you're doing now if you sit there and you know everything that I will say before I say it this is Ultimate journalism my job is to question all the time no but I'm saying for every question if you know the answer if you know what is there then it's death of my career this AI is called good one I'll give that to you so you would be GPT I give that one to you so I'm saying when we say ultimate let's not imagine Something Heavenly this one that one no human being can rise in I'm taking you as an example from the age of 12 to who you are right now you have risen in many ways I'm not talking about the social rise that's subjective to times when which we exist but within yourself in terms of your experience in terms of your ability in terms of knowing life in terms of grasping what's around you you have risen in your own way isn't it may not be like my kind of sadhana but by working in a certain way you do some sadhana all right or by studying something you do sadhana so every human being no matter where they are they are longing to be something more than what they are right now if that something more happens will you settle no you want to be something more you would I I insulted you with GPT but you would like to beat the GPT that will be the aspiration isn't it yes what the GPT cannot do you want to do yes so essentially you want to continuously evolve into bigger and bigger possibilities so if all those things that you can ever dream of all those things if I make it happen for you right now will you settle no no you would want to go further so essentially your longing is to evolve or expand in a way that it is Limitless if those who have those who know only money they may thinking of Limitless money there's no such thing but they will try somebody who knows only wealth they'll think Limitless wealth somebody who has knowledge Limitless knowledge somebody who has skills Limitless skills somebody who has love Limitless love somebody who's in pleasure Limitless pleasure everybody is thinking of Limitless may not be addressed as Limitless they are going in installments but they want Limitless if you approach Limitless or boundless possibility in installments it is like counting one two three four and hoping one day you will say infinity you can only become endless Counting so when you realize this you see the problem is not in something else the problem is in your own faculties how you see how you hear your ability to do body is a great possibility but it's also a cage did you feel that uh people who go to kailash mansar over get this realization did you feel when you went the first time that you were able to realize your insignificance compared to the magnificence of that place very few people can go there and come back without being overwhelmed very few not because they are bigger than that because they're insensitive otherwise if you go with a little preparation how to go there if somebody is there to tell you how you should approach this no one will come without being overwhelmed by it the sheer presence of it is such uh like I am as I said I've grown up as a super skeptic I am skeptical about everything I don't trust anything around me except what I see and what I perceive but if you go by your limitations of perception as I mean I was just talking about the wall it's a limitation this is only eight feet away from me but I can't see beyond that why can't I see beyond that is there no way to see beyond that this is because our vision is right now like this that only if something stops light you can see it see right now you can see my hand but this hand is not so vital for you right now but the air that you breathe is very vital for you without it you cannot exist but can you see it fortunately even in Delhi you can't see it these days [Laughter] so you cannot see the air but it's the most vital thing you cannot see many things which are the most fundamental aspects of your life so essentially spiritual process means making an attempt to see that which does not stop light that's why it's called Enlightenment so for young people who want to seek that Enlightenment and get to know themselves you're saying I'm old not at all you you erenced in in so many different ways you give the tools and you teach the tools but suppose a person cannot get away from their uh regular life and from their day-to-day life what would you say that we can teach them where they are that's why the miracle of online is there so see we are delivering the engineering program the Preparatory part seven sessions online for quite some time already 12 13 years but we were always hesitant to do any initiation online because the problem is not doing it online the problem is the rest the recipient how will they be will they be focused will they be there completely or will they misuse it will they harm themselves this is the issue how can they harm themselves with it see anything powerful if you don't handle it right it can harm you if there is something has the power to transform your life you must understand if you don't handle it responsibly it can also hurt your life electricity is fantastic it's making our lives you'll love it and you put your little finger in that hole you know it does something else to us so anything that is powerful enough to transform your life always has the flip side to it if you don't handle it right that is this is why the commitment commitment we go on pushing for that but now we found a way that we can Proctor hunt thousands of people at a time 6000 is the limit we have right now because of some technological reasons but we are seeing how to make it twenty five thousand we Proctor every one of them in their homes 25 000 we could do that so right now we're doing six thousand at a time so volunteers hundreds of volunteers are sitting the full day and proctoring those people they have images of all those people on their screens and proctoring them helping them through making sure their focused making sure they don't do anything wrong because you have so many volunteers because there are I mean there are Skeptics who will say that you you hypnotize or there's some magical element to you what is it you don't as you said you don't take out gold chains no vibhuti coming out nothing of that sort has happened so how do you get people to do this see you need to do a miracle only if you don't realize that life is such a miracle right now you're sitting here you think this is your AI ni studio and this and that whatever images you have of it but you're sitting on a tiny little mud ball called planet Earth in the middle of nowhere neither the religious people nor the men of science know where the cosmos begins and where it ends in the middle of nothing spinning and you know hurtling through the space this damn little mud ball in this you're sitting and so confidently handling everything I'm not I'm asking you I know I'm not I'm saying you're doing I am doing things every I'm saying nobody has a clue where the hell are we going right now which part of the Galaxy are we in where is this planetary system going is it going to collapse next moment or will it collapse after a billion years you don't know right you have no clue but still everything is going fine because we limit our perception and make ourselves little secure that security is meaningless to me I am always opening up the thing I'm always almost on a daily basis reminding them hey you will die one day what is it you know you're you're not negotiating that you're only negotiating the time to die isn't it hello that fear of death is something which is which can be weakness and it can be a strength too right no why is fear or strength fear is never a strength it could motivate you towards positive action I'm fearful of dying tomorrow so I will work today much more to make my why should you work like that see this is like in The Villages if they want to make a donkey run or something these are cruel things which would have been done by Village boys they will uh in the deepavali time and all they will tie some crackers to the tail of the donkey and the donkey runs faster than a racehorse out of fear is that the way to go in your life so fear of death makes me do right things why why the sense of Life can't make you do things so you're asking why so many people are volunteering doing what they're doing especially young people if you come to the Yoga Center many of them are with me for over 25 30 years they came when they were 18 20 like this today they're just entering their 40s or 50s in that state they are why is it means it's just this that the seed of life is always being suppressed by the social norms and education everything is trying to like you saying see you're saying this not by yourself you somewhere believe it's only the fear of something which will make you be right fear of death fear of Hell fear of punishment right from kindergarten with the stick and cane and whatever nonsense fear of punishment fear of pain fear of suffering is the only way you can be fixed the the whole term God-fearing that's what you fear everything and naturally you fear God also so if you fear everything you're a miserable human being because fear is not a very exuberant wonderful emotion so what would you replace it with celebration joy happiness peace what no it's not like that see life is not a philosophy life is a phenomenon you can either write it or you can be crushed by it if you're crushed by it you will live in fear and suffering if you learn to write it so you have seen uh it's a motorcycle metaphor all over again of course I'd expect you to say yeah no no you see you're being chat GPT now okay you've seen Wave Riders hmm are they just riding huge waves what is a wave Rider's dream he wants to ride a tsunami all right yeah he could kill him but no no if he's good at it he wants to ride a tsunami because that's the dream the biggest wave possible you want to write that because you're good at it if you're not good at it even a tiny little wave will cause fear to you so now I am not talking about being good at something you're as good a life as anybody else as much a life as anybody else doesn't matter you don't know journalism you don't know motorcycling you don't know wave riding it doesn't matter but if you sit here you're as good a life as anything but that's not how human beings are experiencing this is the only thing I do to people that experientially they realize that they are as good a life or as anything can be maybe they're good at nothing in the world it doesn't matter there as a life they're good enough once people experience this there is a certain exuberance to life you may not know how to do things that other people do when it comes to skills we are not the same people when it comes to intelligence we are not the same people when it comes to language we are not the same people in any act that we perform we are never the two people are never the same isn't it but as far as life is concerned there is no such thing as your life and my life see you're sitting there that's your body this is my body till we are buried all right once we're buried we are all the same soil let's not go there we will right now about the soil I know you're going to get there we will we will keep the distinction that's your body this is my body that's your mind this is my mind here and there my mind your mind May overlap and we may be okay but still that is your mind this is my master but there is no such thing as your life and my life it's just like if you and me sit here and blow so bubbles that's my bubble this your bubble if it goes poop then you don't say this is my air this is your air this is the nature of life once people experience this there is a certain Beauty to your existence because you are not you are not separate from anything it's not a philosophy it is not something that you teach them you not a toolkit you give them tools to experience that once they experience that they want that because that's the only thing we have tell me what else you have other than your life rest is all imagination only thing that you have is life isn't it when did you get this realization like most people would think that oh you that's what I was about to tell you my problems but you said no no please do I need to know this after all these things then I you know I rode across and uh they stopped me at Nepal border when I went on my motorcycle I was just uh did you look like this with the beard no no maybe on writing I won't have shaved for five days ten days okay that's about it you were not sad Guru at this time no no no okay even now within myself I am just me people call me according to their experience so who stopped you at the border uh the authorities they stopped me and they asked for a passport I was nearly 20. I did not know what is a passport today children will laugh at me I really did not know what's a passport because I've been riding since I am 12 the moment I became 18 I got my driving license I thought this is it I'm going everywhere in the world I want to just ride away so they stopped me in this passport I said what is that I didn't know then I came home and looked up what is a passport and first thing is I got my passport because I want to right away then I realized I need money then I started some businesses one after another everything became successful when everything that you're doing is successful you start thinking the world is going around you not around the Sun you know so I'm in that state of cocky confidence with everything I do is successful everybody's clapping their hands and everybody says oh is this that this you know in the family when you're successful at a very young age everybody thinks you are some super nonsense I'm not talking about money like today they're talking two months they talk of 10 billion dollars 100 billion dollars not that kind yeah but with those days in a small town it is successful right or that kind of success so I am already into half a dozen Enterprises all working well and things happening one afternoon I just had a little bit of a break I'm working from morning five o'clock to eleven o'clock in the night non-stop because I have so many things to do [Music] and the best part of this work is I need to go from here to there there to there so zipping around on my motorcycle and doing all this all kinds of crazy Enterprises I did everything worked fortunately so this afternoon I just had about an hour and a half break in Mysore City this is the culture that for those days at least if we want to test our motorcycles we go up charmandy hill if you want to party we go up challenge if we fall in love we go if we fall out we have to go to chamundi health okay if you have nothing to do we go to chamundi so I had nothing to do unthinking I didn't think of going there simply I wrote and I ended up in chamundi so I know this feel very well I've camped there I've spent days and nights in Germany Hill I know every Rock everything so this is one of those rocks which is west facing of the Charmander Hill I parked my motorcycle went up and sat is around 3 15 3 30 in the afternoon like any other day I just went and sat my eyes were still open after some time I didn't know what happened for the first time till then I knew this is me this is you know that's somebody else I have no problem with somebody else but this is me that somebody suddenly I did not know which is me which is not me what was me was just all over the place I thought this lasted for 10-15 minutes when I came back to my normal senses about four and a half hours had passed well the first time in my adult life from the age of eight I remember I had not shared a single tier I'm like this I am a close fist always never because I know such need emotional needs to cry and do this and that no matter what happened to me here I am four and a half hours tears are flowing my shirt is all wet and every cell in my body is just wet with ecstasy it's like that it's dripping then I shake my skeptical head and ask what's happening to me only thing that my logic can tell me is maybe I'm going off my rocker and I asked my closest friends you know something is happening to me if I close my eyes I'm just blown away like come on what did you pop you found mushrooms in Geometry Hill what happened this that is the kind of inquiry of course now yeah most people would think that right so because I had no context anywhere around me to tell me what's happening to me nobody to tell me what's happening to me all I knew is I have hit a gold mine I don't want to lose it that much I know but I don't know what it is so I experimented this what is this then I discovered this is so simple if I can take my hands off my psychological process my thought and my emotion if I take my hands off that every cell in the body just gets blissed out like it's like head to toe you know recently I was 25 at that time about a few years ago maybe four or six years ago probably one German doctor wanted to do some crazy study on me and then he said your cellular age is 25. I was surprised how is he saying this so in a way it is true because I kind of stopped there I kind of stopped it I hit the ceiling there and my cellular Edge is still 25 I would say so you will you feel physically you stopped Aging in that process but it wasn't a miracle uh sad guruji see this is what this is why I'm saying it's a logical question I would ask I'm not asking what did you asking see this rose flower became so beautiful and fragrant not because somebody put perfume at the roots they put filth all right yes or no see the filth became so beautiful and fragrant is this magic of nature I would think you'd call it whatever is it magic no it's not it's not applied Magic it's a process what did you have for lunch soup whatever soup it is I want question all right you eat doll soup South Indian person eating Dal soup [Laughter] anyway you drink soup and it becomes a woman like you is this magic no why is it not it's not something that was done see it is done you eat a chapati and you become a wonderful woman is it magic no why is it not uh Magic would be something that would that would be out of the ordinary I would feel is it is it ordinary if I take a chapati in my hand and make a human being out of it is that magic yes but if you do it in your stomach it's not magic no because that's the biological process no see that is an explanation but is it not magical uh yeah magic of nature as I said before that that's how you're dismissive when you say magic of nature you don't have to eat human flesh to become a human being you can eat Dal you can eat chapati you can eat whatever nonsense you want and still become a human being isn't it in a matter of few hours is that not magical tell me one thing that's not magical in the existence yeah I get that but many people go to yogis and uh waiting for that magic yes I'll come to that that is because they have not seen the magic of life they don't have the attention to see the magic of life if you pay attention there is nothing here which is not magical so anyway let me tell you about that day and six six to eight weeks passed and I realized this is all it is if I can keep my hands off my psychological process I will burst into blissfulness then I thought who wouldn't want it yeah who wouldn't want to Simply Be blissed out because there is enough scientific evidence today to show when your experience of life is very pleasant your intelligence your physiology everything that you have works at its best there's no question about that there's no question about that anymore because it's all established today in the lab because everything has to come from the lab today it's come from the lab well established we ourselves have a research center in the Harvard Medical School in the Beth Israel Hospital where it is a sadhguru center of a conscious Planet whatever we're doing that top scientists are working and they're all saying the same things we've always been saying from our experience now they're speaking a little different language complicated language about simple things so once I realized this I sat down I was 25 and I sat down and planned at that time the world's population was 5.6 billion people I said in two and a half years I sat down and made a detailed plan in two and a half years I will make the whole world blissful here I am 40 years this year is 40 years okay 1982. this is 2023 all right 40 years it is well people say we've touched over 2 billion people whatever but that's not my idea of humanity so I'm telling you my problems I will die as a failure I know that but I am a blissful failure [Laughter] is full failure I wonder what that makes the rest of us if that's what you're saying I will come back to that question which I asked you that you know most people think like in fact Yogi Aditya there's also criticized for this reason that why you doing why you getting involved with politics and all you should be disconnected from highest things about yoga was in a way in recent times when I said it isn't that in India recent means five six thousand years in recent times was by Krishna is the ultimate politician and King maker all right so this idea ayogi means must sit in a cave and if he comes out his yoga will fall off that is not a very good yoga people ask me oh why are you dressed like this why do you drive this why do you fly helicopter why do you do this why do you do that okay I can do anything my spirituality is not so fragile that I have to protect myself in a cave I can be anywhere I can live in a Marketplace and still remain the same doesn't matter what kind of company I am in uh you know I'm part of the New York Fashion Week yes yes I know that's what I was asking I'm saying the texture of my clothing will not take away my spirituality I am not that fragile you were at the Nita Ambani uh Cultural Center yes there too we saw you walk the red carpet I think satguruji and in fact they put a carpet was red what can I do okay if it blew also I would walk golfing and you know so naturally something today I inaugurated the G20 golf tournament yeah let me tell you this Sports is important for you right see if you don't know how to play play means this play cannot see you can worship without involvement you can get married without involvement you can bear children without involvement but you can't hit a ball without involvement a ball won't listen to your nonsense whatever you fool yourself with game is such that you cannot play without absolute involvement I think I'm paraphrasing I may not be getting the right words I think it's Swami Vivekananda who said this that you are closer to the Divine in kicking a ball than in your prayer something like this into that extra that to that meaning he said something in those terms because it's true you can do you can learn the Mantra and go on saying it thinking about 100 other things but you can't if you think about hundred other things the ball won't go where you want it to go that's a good thing about a ball yeah when you hit in the concentration yes without involvement without involvement it will not happen this is the fundamental without involvement you will go without knowing nothing about life when you went to these places like the Fashion Place and you went to the Ambani Center you play golf with people some people think that you know that you're close to very powerful people that very uh successful rich people are around you and that's how it you become a magnet for Successful People is that true see why would I come to Delhi and go to the slums in Delhi seventy percent of our work is in rural India rural India is Islam I want you to know 70 of the work is in rural India people who come to me over 70 to 80 percent are all rural people when I come to Delhi of course I want to meet people who matter who are either in positions of responsibility or something otherwise how do you do work so their problem is their attention is only on them see they people I'm I'm not trying to be commenting on any particular profession but journalists particularly they come to The Yoga Center one film star or one Minister somebody is there their focus is only that there are other thirty thousand forty thousand other people your cameras never caught them you never paid attention the problem is with you but you think I have a problem I have no problem with the celebrity I work with I work in the prisons I work with rural people I work with tribal women I work with anybody because my work is with human beings what the hell they think of themselves is not my business my business is human beings whoever they are whom do you connect with easier uh rural folk or complicated city Folk Rich folk who has more more existential problems in you and not just that is it Indian American because you spend a lot of time in America what about that like in the west coast do you feel that they take like I know one answer you gave it they go round and round and round to come to telling what their problem is whereas in India Patak say they tell like that what their issue is so whom do you connect with more I even connect with the grasshopper as I connect with them the love the most loud one in my life it's it's not any different for me because see this is this is the whole thing via misunderstanding the involvement of life to relationships see now if I spend 10 days in your home and talk to you we may develop a relationship Bond right but when you sit here in front of me not because of who you are because you're sitting in front of me if you ask me who's the most important person in your life I'll say it's you yeah this is this is not because of anything because this is how my attention is this is how my involvement is this moment whatever is there whether it's a flower or a grasshopper or a human being my involvement is absolute about the question is this question of if you are a yogi you must be in a certain way why are you doing all these things let me tell you because Buddha purnim is coming let me honor him with for this when Gautama was traveling during the monsoon times they would stay along with him there are hundreds of monks everybody needs to be accommodated somewhere everybody goes and stays in different homes even now we try we do like this our full-time volunteers are all supported by part-time volunteers eight ten volunteers take care of full-time volunteer their clothing their travel their food everything is taken care of that's how we see we do work so they were also doing that a few thousand years ago but they were doing the same thing how else to do work so Monsoon time they can't be traveling because they're traveling by foot they stayed in one town so one lady came to Gautama she's a local courtesan or to put it simply she's a prostitute and she comes and says I heard that your monks are looking for residences why don't you send some monks to me and everybody had gone one or two were left Ananda tirtha was left and she looked at why doesn't he come he's a tall handsome monk she said why doesn't he come and stay with me Gautama said by all means Ananda can stay with you so he told Ananda please go stay with the lady so she went to the prostitute's house or the whole town went a GOG oh my God he sent a monk to a prostitute's house what's happened so when he went there the lady brought nice silk clothing and said suppose you were wearing very rough clothing let me wash it you wear this so here were silk robes and he sat there she played music she danced for him he paid absolute attention and watched her people said see she's singing music then what will happen next what will happen then imagine everything then after the monsoon was over after a few weeks the Ananda came back to Gautama along with a nun she turned into a nun so when people were questioning him he said this he said see I am walking this path because I see this as the most powerful way to live but you're telling me her ways are more powerful than mine if it is so I will also join her I'm like that if I find something more powerful than the way I'm existing right now I will join that what is your existence right now you lead very busy lives you're constantly traveling and you want to you want to touch people's lives and bring that blissfulness that you experienced into as many lives on people that's all but what is that secret sauce that attracts Millions to Isha Foundation what is that you feel in you see look I'm sure you must be thinking what do I do what is it that I do which the other people don't do don't you think that I do life they do mental circus I do lie I've got my headline I'll just do life nothing else so you don't think that there's anything which is Mystical and magical that you do I mean of course you have an issue with the whole term magical no no I'm I have no issue with that I'm only saying see one thing see magic means what now if I put my hand into my pocket and pull out a pigeon this is Magic yeah that's what people would think mostly right but if I would not think back to that vibhuti and chains if I pull out a pigeon and give it to you you have a bird and I have a shitty pocket that's that's all it is what do you do with that magic now I can show you a different magic if you come to the Yoga Center I'll show you people who've been there for many years in the last 10 years they have not had a moment of angst moment of anger moment of frustration moment of anything they're simply there not simply sitting somewhere in a cave actively working with all sorts of people and still don't experience that this is the magic that the world needs and that's the magic I'm trying to weave when you're attached to family when you're attached to your children your aging parents your your spouse who might why only those five six people why not to me yes but you're born into those uh relationships right to get you know your husband was not born with you your children were not born Society gave that yes correct so when you're when you you know I'm asking okay why are you attached only to five things why are you not attached to the whole universe what's stopping you but that would mean disconnecting with those right what it's not so right now as I said earlier now I'm looking at you you are the most important life in my life right now if I think no no my daughter is more important than you my friend is more important than you why right now you are the most important person because you are here with me because this is life now I'm thinking of my daughter this is my psychological memory right when she's there she's there that's a different matter so you are giving more significance to your memory than your experience lots of people say that one meal a day everybody wants to know from you of course that how you're so fit and uh is it one meal a day which everybody the the mythology around you the myths around you is that one meal a day he eats only nuts he's very careful diet not a lot I eat whatever I feel like eating I'm not careful about diet I'm not careful about anything I'm somebody who lives like I could die today always so I'm not by rule one one meal a day but generally I find for the type of work that I do if I'm it's a busy day at The Yoga Center means I don't feel like eating in the morning so I eat somewhere between four to six in the evening I eat a full when I sit down at the table I don't like to measure and eat I eat what I like to eat proper South Indian meal properly I eat so once you eat rice and sambar mostly five days six days in a week at least five days in a week we eat millets two days we meet rise or chapati or something but and vegetables yes organically grown I'm guessing uh it's from the local Marketplace semi-organic we are not growing anything because we wanted to support the farmers around us okay so we contract them rather than we growing it ourselves uh recently you know um the Delhi chief minister made this comment uh when he said uh that you know the prime ministers people tell me that he sleeps only three hours in a day and that's why he's so grumpy all the time because he sleeps so less he needs to sleep a little more so uh what is so what is uh what is Yoga tell us how much uh is there a rule that you need to sleep this much see we must understand sleep means it's the downtime for the body it's the maintenance time suppose uh you have a car which needs one day of Maintenance in 30 days it's all right but suppose it needs 10 days of Maintenance in 30 days better get onto the bus isn't it so right now doctors have been saying others have been saying You must sleep for eight hours a day otherwise your heart will this will go happen that will happen eight hours a day means you're sleeping away one third of your life 24 hours 8 hours you're sleeping one third another two hours could be going in other kind of Maintenance of eating bathroom this that whatever because all these things are needed bodily processes are a must we can't be without it so if 8 to 10 12 hours are going in maintenance when are you going to live freely it's not efficient way of living so don't fix times like that see how to make body more efficient more energetic more effervescent naturally the need for food see right now there was an ambassador because I'm not making a comment about any brand but because that brand doesn't exist I think we can I like how you go into automobile metaphors all the time because fuel we're talking not sure you were driving an ambassador car if you put one liter if it ran for three to four kilometers it was great if you press the throttle in two kilometers one liter got ran away because half of it would be leaking out also so many things today you have more efficient cars bigger cars faster cars which will run 10 12 kilometers for the same liter some of them over 30 kilometers with the same liter the hybrid one is running 45 kilometers for the same liter what is this upgradation of technology and better maintenance when I say better maintenance less friction in the whole machinery so you you may think this is me but actually this is a biological machine isn't it if you take away all the friction Within both food and sleep the need will come down it consumes less fuel it needs less downtime this is something you must do if you're interested in living because if you're sleeping people say I enjoy sleep nobody can enjoy sleep because you're not there you enjoy the restfulness why are you not restful when you're sitting here You're simply revving at a high RPM for no reason and then you want to lie down and sleep because the body is tired tired yeah so it is not something that you prescribe you work towards making the body very effervescent and Alive what kind of fuel would do that how much fuel would do that then naturally sleep arranges itself I never fix how much I'm asleep I've never woken up to an alarm my my girl just laughs at me you don't know how to set an alarm on the phone I said I don't need it do you have a phone yes I have a phone what do you do mostly with the phone making calls it's my office it's your face I don't go to any office I handle everything on the phone today give such a social media sensation on YouTube on Facebook on Instagram do you check your what do people see what do people ask what do people comment about you I may not be able to see comments much uh here and there maybe just to have a feel of it like but everybody why do they like my sambar [Laughter] that's what I said there is a certain Fascination about food probably because good home food is disappearing so fast yeah that people think it's something exotic that somebody can make sambar just in a camper I'm making somebody in a camper that I am driving during the virus time yeah did you do that I wanted to ask you when you traveled for Save the soil when you you went on your motorbike across the world uh what was it about you know food that you did American food uh you know you went to Egypt and you went to all those places Drive riding in the uh desert and all that what did you do for food there was a team organizing food ahead of time for the whole because there was nearly a team of uh 27 to 30 people uh photographers videographers and setting up see because we were not just riding in these hundred days I said 691 events yeah that's phenomenal yeah those events organizing those events there were people traveling with me or ahead of me most of the time so they would have food ready at a certain place it didn't always come on time but I'm okay with food I'm not uh I'm not like I must eat at a given time I'm okay wouldn't sleep never came to me what about controversies do they bother you uh see the thing is I made myself like this that somebody else will never determine how I am somebody else or something else never determines how I am Within Myself so if it if the controversy supports the work I don't mind the controversy if it's impeding the work of course we would like to relieve that like for Isha Foundation comes under criticism many times that you've taken always what do you mean many times okay always and then those who uh those who do not succeed in bringing you down legally they say that the reason is because sadhguruji is connected so well with powers that be that's why it powers that be you can inquiry or a journalist have I ever gone to any chief minister or prime minister ever asking something for myself ever have I taken one rupee from any government have I taken an inch of land from any government no if I go to meet them I go there only to contribute to what they are doing if I have an idea if I think a certain law should happen to facilitate something only that I've never gone to any politician any powers that be including God asking for something I have never prayed in my life ever you've never prayed no really but doesn't don't you feel hurt or dejected at times why no that's why I said nobody else decides what happens Within Me the satguru need a guru ever I had when I needed very long time ago and uh that's a different dimension altogether people are right now there are troll armies which doesn't like the word Dimension so whenever I say Dimension I say Dimension Dimension dimension for their benefit so I'm saying whatever negativities people do the problem with them is they want to make a living so they know that if they use somebody's name they can make a living they are doing that I'm okay if they make a living but if they impede the work then of course we act to see how to relieve those things but till now whatever they have said have they produced one iota of proof one one little thing no this is not exaggeration of what we are doing this is just total imagination of what it is so any number of times openly I have challenged you're talking about thousands of Acres of forest I said one inch Forest land tribal land private land government Land one inch anywhere if there's an encroachment I'll leave the country I'll withdraw from all the social media thing you will never hear of me again I'm done if one inch if you show me I invite them please come stay at our expense go ahead and find out they won't come why because they make a living like this it's very unfortunate way to live but unfortunately they're making a living like that right a person like me or any of my colleagues they'll come to you and ask you questions like how should I be happy how should I get rid of tensions how can I sleep what should I eat these are the kind of questions that most of us would come up with when rich people come to you what do they say when can I make my first billion second billion what do powerful people say when can I become Prime Minister do they come and ask you these kind of questions uh not exactly see you're thinking see a lot of people think you are very rich and Powerful somebody who has nothing looking at you they're thinking that you are very rich and Powerful so who is Rich and Powerful to you may not be rich and Powerful to somebody else so for me nobody is Rich and Powerful if they have a problem how are they powerful ah I don't have any problem so you can say I'm powerful not power over somebody I have complete power over my life and that's all that matters I have no power over anybody else but this is all that people want that they want to be power over their own life they don't understand that and they think by conquering something they're procuring something acquiring something it'll happen let me tell you this just before I started safe soil uh moment I was in the United States that's when this Rogan thing and all happened I was campaigning for the uh also yes yes and a few others some of them did negative hit jobs on me it's okay uh so at that time I was meeting people and one day I see one young man behaving like his tail is on fire I said hey what are you up to he said Guru I want to make one billion dollars one billion dollars oh that's all you come tomorrow morning I'll give you a billion dollars really you'll give me a billion dollars I said yes tomorrow you come I'll give you a billion dollars he had come with eight of his friends they were all sitting quietly I said see these eight guys were sitting quietly I'll give each one of them 10 billion dollars Guru you're giving them 10 only one for me I said you idiot just now you wanted only one the moment they get 10 you're miserable about the one so unfortunately people have made themselves like this they only enjoy what others don't have this is the fundamental mistake about life you don't enjoy what you have you enjoy what others don't have this is a sickness you think it's Joy it is not joy joy is a natural exuberance of life so whether you are a politician or a convict or a journalist or a man woman whatever the hell you are you think you're all that but essentially you're a life either constipated or blossoming to you for advice do many people think that you can see the future people try these days they've given up because I know they know by now that if they ask such questions where I will take them they become gtps you know they're predicting what I may say so the important thing the important thing about my life is not about predicting your future about empowering you to create your future this is the most important aspect of this culture why the sanatan Dharma is important is here we have no sense of God there is no the god in this country we are a Godless Nation we know the technology of God making but we don't have the God all the people that you worship or people who walk the geography of this land Shiva walk this land Yogi walk this land Krishna walk this land Rama walked this land they had all the troubles are more trouble than you ever face in your life no no we'll come to that you can call them whatever you want essentially they walked in human form on this land yes or no yes were their lives just magical or full of trouble look at Rama's life it's a it's a serial serial disaster 3. suppose you are a queen of a kingdom at the age of 19 you're coronated and then they take away your kingdom and send you to the forest one disaster like that you wouldn't recover most people yeah tribulations all his life most people wouldn't recover with one disaster lost his kingdom as if that's not good enough lost his wife then he goes out and battles and kills people that he doesn't want to kill and then gets back his wife and again some politics and sends away his pregnant wife to the forest never gets to see his children unknowingly he almost killed his children see if you are me or anybody knowingly or unknowingly we killed our own children in many ways that is the worst thing that you could do correct he almost did it yeah and then he never got to see his wife she died in the forest so this is not a successful life but the important thing why we worship Him is no matter what happened he remained the same no angst no hatred no nothing he even did Penance for killing ravana okay because this is what this is the only thing that we value in this culture is freedom Liberation mukti when you're alive if you're free from everything you are not withdrawn you're active but free that is only one Avatar of Vishnu where this happened in the others uh in the other avatars it was it wasn't that it wasn't uh see what you call as Avatar is Darwin's theory of evolution this was not spoken recently this was spoken they say hello welcome trolls himself is supposed to have spoken this correct yes the first life see what are the authors tell me no no don't go there one at a time what does it mean water life yeah life waterborne life there was a time when hardly 10 percent or five percent of the land was land rest was all water so first life was naturally waterborne what is next kurma okay so what does it mean amphibious life crawled out of the water half on land often this learning to live on land that's what amphibious life means next is among the many creatures smaller creatures they're ignoring and coming to mammals the first mammal or the grossest mammal he's a pig or a wild boar why I am saying it's grossest is even today at least the ladies will say this if a man is very crude like a pig yes so something very basic means Pig so the most basic mammal is a pig very rooted in its body very hard to kill a pig people don't understand this it's not like killing a deer or a goat or something very hard to kill a pig it takes a lot to kill the pigs because they're so rooted in their physicality if somebody is very physical you say he's like a pig so the next thing is half man half animal next thing is what Ramana dwarf to man next thing is what parasharama full-fledged man but volatile volatile next is what Rama peaceful man next is what Krishna a loving man next is supposed to be a Buddha a meditative man the next one is supposed to be a mystical man don't look at them as individual people these are different stages of evolution just look at Darwin's theory of evolution it is parallel to this in many ways he might have gone at it with a different context so sanatan Dharma has an explanation or a a sanatan view of life has has explanations for Life Evolution we're talking about Evolution see there are places in our Vedas where they're talking about single-celled animals okay we're talking about Evolution because we are a dialectical culture we don't do anything in a way that it doesn't touch your life we write our history that way we sign right our science that way because if it's not going to touch and transform your life what is the point of any science or history so this also is said in such a way that we are making it an embodiment of that stage of development and saying it is this person this person it is not about people it is about different levels of evolution that happened so next one is supposed to be mystical right now even your technology is becoming almost mystical isn't it hmm right now unable to understand I'm saying if a machine gets up and suppose you are a robo I don't know it could be or I could be why you if somebody builds a machine just like me and talks like me chat GTP is answering all your questions and you don't know I finished the podcast and went home and you don't know it can easily be done yeah we are not very close to that see almost 20 years ago Mr Honda the Japanese the Honda company chairperson said by 2050 we will produce 11 member football team and they will win the World Cup and they're not far from that they can win the World Cup because you can make every player a Lionel Messi or the best in the in those different spots of the game so is this not mystical it's manifesting also in a way isn't it it's it's mystical we're getting there see we are always trying to separate this and that life is not in separation life is in unity always this uh you know the current prime ministers has given this thing that India is on the way to becoming a vishwa guru there are many people who are skeptical about these kind of things that this is too much we can't resolve our own problem of giving water to every home you know public toilets we can't these basic things we can't do so what is this vishwa Guru take is he is he also doing this kind of thing that which you said about Mr Honda which is you know manifested that once you have a goal you achieve that do you think that there's a similarity see yeah how India was viewed just 20 years ago and how it is viewed by the world today the people who are skeptical should go out in the world and see how Indian means nobody even paid attention to you today Indians wow you're from India they say 70 70 Fortune 500 companies have Indian CEOs most of the ivy league universities have Indian you know Deans and things like that it's not small because we took a historical beating in terms of invasions we lost so many things the continuity of our culture was lost the continuity of knowledge was lost everything was destroyed today they are slowly certain you know unpredulised historians and scientists are looking at it and saying almost everything that you call as science that came from Europe the fundamentals came from India the mathematics came from India all right even the most simple thing that everybody study what is this this theorems that you study in high school they all were here well before the Europeans did that they traveled here they took it they dropped our this thing and produced it in their own languages and said we found it but our problem has always been this we never put ourselves out well our our problem is we don't have a packaging industry we have products we don't have packaging but now we are learning to package it well but at the same time just 250 years ago we were 30 of the world's export that means we must be packaging it well also it's been destroyed systematically destroyed all right it's not just didn't get destroyed ad hoc systematically destroyed by somebody who had a different intent Finance happened it's there's no point being bitter about it because bitterness will not kill them it will only kill us sure all right so today it's on an up search it is a land of so many complexities that's our strength that's our problem do we have the brains and the patients to handle the complexity and take it somewhere or will we get tangled up in our own complexity this is a important thing for this you need a leadership which is visionary which has the necessary courage which has a necessary ruthlessness to push in One Direction no matter who says what this is needed in this country otherwise this country will not get out of its pits we are a plethora of problems but we are a tremendous possibility today everybody is looking at the possibility of India those who are here commenting about local they're just involved in this local news Mass that's going on they don't understand how the world is looking at us right now the world is looking at as one of the greatest possibilities on the planet and we will be I have no doubt about that it is just that if we do this in a planned way in a determined way in a strategic lead because one important thing Indians have been lacking is that we've always been accused of not having strategic thinking for the first time we are showing some sense of strategic thinking we are a nation we are a culture we are a civilization who strategized thousand years later what we will be doing at one time but Albert Einstein when he came to India whatever and you know I've always been telling people he met the wrong Indians he met some people whoever he met I don't know who he met he said Indians can't think 15 million minutes Beyond where they are I said I keep telling people he met the wrong Indians he didn't meet us all right so we have to change that we need to bring strategic thinking we need to go where we want to go not wherever winds push us we need to go where we want to go I think that determination the younger generation is beginning to show the aspirations are such they want to go where they want to go this is not going to happen just like a dream that is striving there is a whole lot of striving to make this happen only question is will you do it joyfully or miserably that's your choice wonderful and anybody who says that if you uni somebody needs to sleep more uh that's a political ambition I think finally satguruji we talked about where we are going how we are heading 2023 where is satguruji going uh are you going to be in India you travel so much so where do you see home you're such a global person do you see home as in India and are you traveling this year my home is within myself so it goes with me wherever I go oh sometimes I like the food sometimes I don't like but it's like home some sometimes food turns out well sometimes it doesn't are you do have a like like you had saved the soil is there something that you're planning uh the next project yes we are in the process of crafting what is called as conscious Planet movement it's a global movement even safe soil movement did not happen in a Risha Foundation it happened under conscious Planet which is a separate Foundation outside of the Isha Foundation what conscious Planet means you see right now there are many aspects if you I mean I don't want to go into detail considering the time there is only one problem on the planet the human being if you and me are not here what's the problem on this planet there's no problem on this planet everything is fine isn't it right now everything is a problem every natural color a natural process natural happening that happens we call it a Calamity if an earthquake happens we die if a flood comes we die if anything happens if a spectacular volcano blows we will die everything is a Calamity in our understanding these are all natural happenings which have always been happening for millions of years so this is become like this because of the way we have constructed our own lives in a compulsive manner our own intelligence has become the most serious problem right now people are talking about mental health pandemic I know this will get me heavy Trolls but I must say this to them if you do not understand your physical and mental health is your responsibility the chances of you being physically mentally healthy becomes more and REM more and more remote as time passes because of variety of reasons soil is very directly connected to your mental health and physical health of course mental health I am saying because that's the most fragile part of who you are and that will go off first physically you're feeling this and that somehow you carry on you don't think you're ill something is simple for most people all their faculties are not fully functional all right but they carry on thinking this is how it is but the moment the mental fact faculties don't work you create you get clearly crippled so that is beginning to happen the recent CDC stats say in America one in every three teenage girls are depressed when we are growing up a teenage girl means she will giggle for nothing there's no way to get her depressed Joy was there simply exuberant because that's the nature of life when it's blossoming in a certain way even a little donkey you see when it's at a certain age it simply jumps around for Joy of life not for anything that happened to it simply for the joy of life look at a puppy how it jumps around the same with human beings also so adolescence is a time when your physicality and everything is blossoming people are just giggly and bubbly but today they're depressed one in three this is dangerous this is a dangerous proportion one in three is depressed means one-third of the population you you don't have enough psychiatrists to deal with that kind of stuff there is no way you can do it you don't have that much Furniture first of all true true so what is it see if you can conduct your thought process consciously would you ever go mentally off no if you can conduct your emotions consciously would you go ever go off no so what is missing is consciousness but what we're looking at is is like this suppose this room is dark and I say Smitha get this damn Darkness out and you start pushing it kicking it whatever will it go turn on the light and it's gone yeah so for compulsive Behavior within ourselves the only and only solution is consciousness so this conscious plant movement we're trying to build technology platforms to Proctor people that our aim is two to three billion people should have a minimum of 12 to 15 minutes of practice that they will do and we will monitor them for at least one year minimum that they are actually doing it we want to find sponsors to give them rewards if somebody is working on their inner well-being let's say you did some sadhana for six months and you feel wonderful if you feel wonderful all the people who work with you they'll feel wonderful your family feels wonderful the world will become wonderful this is the only way yes without individual transformation there is no Global or Universal transformation there is simply no such thing but this is the important thing that human beings should become little more conscious so as a part of this we are launching this in 2024 right now Preparatory work is going on because we were depending on cryptocurrency thinking we'll give crypto rewards for people you do that's not working no not now it's working it's gone gone at one time it was going so we thought if you do 90 days of practice we'll do one coin which will be valuable in the marketplace so you are not paying for your uh you know getting the sadhana we are paying you for you to do the sadhana because you doing sadhana you're improving the world in many ways your workplace your home everything improves this is the only way the world improves so now we are looking at sponsors and other things to find a ways to sponsor people that you are doing your sadhana you are well we will monitor you there are ways medically we can monitor you how your blood pressure is how you're feeling everything if you're like that we reward you for that for your health and well-being we are going to reward you with doctors inside all digitally simple see today you have uh like wristbands which will tell you what is your pulse rate correct what is your blood pressure what is your sugar they're able to kind of maybe not exactly but they're able to do this so with that kind of instrumentation with phones phone is the main instrument through that we want to monitor still this work is going on okay it is still technology needs to be built up but basic technology is there we are not inventing anything we have to innovate a little bit to make that happen right so creating a conscious planet is the most important thing at least two to three billion people if they are willing to spend 12 to 15 minutes within themselves and improve themselves it's a better world and it's the only world we have right so we have to work that's all we have right thank you so much for speaking with us very much and it's been an Illuminating conversation and will get us all thinking a lot about it thank you so much thank you for listening into this very special broadcast do like or subscribe on whichever Channel you have seen this or heard this namaste click here to watch the previous episodes foreign [Music]

Channel: ANI News

Views: 973,627

Keywords: sadhguru, sadhguru latest, sadhguru english, sadhguru videos, sadhguru meditation, sadhguru 2023, sadguru, sadhguru best speech, sadhguru interview, #sadhguru, sadguru speeches, podcast, sadhguru land case, sadhguru 2022, sadhguru love, sadguru speech in english, sadhguru exclusive, sadhguru motivation, sadhguru smita prakash, sadhguru ani podcast, ani podcast with smita prakash, smita prakash, ani podcast, latest podcast, hindi podcast, podcast trending, latest ani podcast

Id: MtsakWaHenw

Length: 99min 55sec (5995 seconds)

Published: Sun Apr 23 2023