Ep. 218 | Minimalist Fashion (with Courtney Carver)

there is no minimalist rulebook well until now the minimalists have created sixteen rules for living with less a free ebook which you can download right now at the minimalists com slash resources enjoy and minimalists hello simpletons I was having this thought the other day Josh tell me when you paint a house on the outside uh-huh it gets bigger but if you paint a room on the inside the room gets smaller Zeno's paradox hello everyone I'm Joshua fields Wilbur and I'm Ryan Nicodemus and together we are the minimalist today we're gonna talk about minimalist fashion we're gonna talk about capsule wardrobes we're gonna talk about cleaning out your closet we're gonna talk about the pros and cons of trendy clothing with today's guests Courtney Carver is back in the studio and Janie she has a new book out it's called project 333 which I'll hold up for our YouTube audience if you're watching this on YouTube now before we dive in according to you know our show is not an interview show we don't interview people we we answer questions and so we have some questions here from our audience today but before we get to those it's a left been 11 years since you launched project 333 wild I think so it's almost 10 okay 2010 2010 right 2010 2020 yeah if you're including the year 2010 and by the end of 2020 okay I think this is a mass podcast I've been really know if it's math I have to go okay fair enough and so project 333 but for those four the six people who are uninformed can you explain what that is and let's talk about why the book now sure so project 333 is as you guys know a minimalist fashion challenge where for three months you dress with 33 items or less including clothing accessories jewelry and shoes I'm sorry I know like a lot of people stopped listening when I said she's right but shoes count but here's what doesn't count underwear doesn't count so if you want to have 33 pairs of underwear be my guest lounge wear sleepwear and workout clothes don't count but your workout clothes must work out if you don't want to count them we're still underwear Ryan can you believe this not true minimalist if you ask me here's the thing I I don't think I mean I think I probably fit within the the 33 items and you do it for three months that so you don't like throw out all your clothes right I recommend you not get rid of anything that's right after the three months and so in a weird way it's sort of like Ryan's packing party but for your just your wardrobe and you just you store the stuff away you have your 33 items and then over the course of three months you're wearing just those items but they tend to be your favorite clothes right they do and what's so interesting is that so many people who think I could never get down to 33 items are already wearing only 33 items but they're still sorting through all their other crap right yeah they're trying on the oversize blue polka dot thing that's going on and their closet by the way I am wearing polka dots and something and so they're wearing this to whatever is going on in their closet they'll try it on and it doesn't work or they'll wear it throughout the day this used to be me at least where I would put on the thing and I'm like I didn't enjoy wearing it but because it was my clothes that I felt compelled to wear it's got a nice brand name so I'm gonna hold on to it right a little pony logo but what's this what's the statistic we only wear like 20 percent of what's in our closet 80 percent of the time I don't know where that came from but yeah that's fair yeah it does I mean it's it's interesting I know I totally would have fallen into that back in my corporate days when I had all the suits and the Allen Edmonds shoes and the ties and the different color shirts yeah it's crazy though because that that 20% of the other wardrobe we wear a hundred percent of our wardrobe takes up out our mental space all of our attention all of our resources I mean when I think about how much money time energy and emotion I've put into my wardrobe over the years I think could I have done that to something that I couldn't really care less about I mean even when I thought I loved shopping and clothes I still didn't really care about it so why did I divert all of that energy towards this monster I posit right and also all this energy that is actually making me discontented in a way now the funny thing is right when we go out on tour right we're actually getting ready to go on another tour right now the less coast tour and as we go out on tour it seems to me always the best-dressed people are people who are currently participating in project 333 I'm pretty sure I shared that in the book because when you said that to me one time I thought oh my gosh he's so right like people really do look and feel better about themselves even though that wasn't the intended goal of the challenge it is one added benefit for sure now one snap from the book now let's talk real quickly about the book here it says the average woman owns five hundred and fifty dollars in clothing that has never been worn and you know when I was going through my mom's stuff down in Florida when she passed away over a decade ago I I found she had 14 winter coats in her closet and she lived in st. Pete Beach and some of those coats still had tags on them in fact many of the clothes in her closet still had tags on it and why do we do that it's a really common thing I can't be in a room with people and ask that question do you have clothes with tags still on and not have more than half the room raise their hands I mean we I think are conditioned to go after that great deal and we get so excited about it that we forget whether or not it's something we even want in our lives but we just want to score that deal at least that's what how it worked for me and then I'd put it in my closet and I would never come around to wearing it and I'd never cut the tags until I wore it so there it would be with the tags still hanging on it reminding me what an idiot I am for spending that money yeah you've got a lot of people you've helped a lot of people with project 333 why the book now why was now inappropriate to put this in a book form so my first book soulful simplicity had a chapter in it called simple as the new black and it was all about project 333 and like almost every conversation I have it became kind of the star of the show like whenever I talked about I could talk for an hour about anything and mention project 333 for five minutes and that's all anyone wants to talk about afterwards so it made sense that there would be a book really helping people figure out not just how to do the challenge but to help them with their objections to the challenge and excuses and also find other ways to do it to break the rules to make it really work well in their lives yeah I think it's nice about the book too is because you can talk about project three through three all you want until your face turns blue but when other people talk about it and their experiences with it and you share some stories in the book it really helps other people connect with it a lot better I think we've got some questions here today Rachel in Baltimore is first up I struggle with being a minimalist or attempting to be a minimalist I call myself I want to be minimalist and just the thought of enjoying keeping up with fashion so I think those two things sound very separate and probably binary kind of black and white but I do believe that fashion kind of makes our first impression on people and yet I have the mentality that I don't want to spend a ton of money on clothing and keeping up with the Joneses in that aspect so Courtney rachel has I think this is one of the most common sort of things that comes up like I want to become a minimalist she says she's a want to be minimalist or or she just wants to simplify her wardrobe but at the same time feels this alternate tug of well in order to make a good first impression on people I need to be fashionable what would you say to someone like Rachel so much to unpack here a lot of people feel this way and they either want to keep up with fashion or they love shopping and the second part you want to make a good first impression which assumes that people even notice what you're wearing and it's been my experience that people don't notice what you're wearing and that was really a blow to my ego at first because I used to dress to impress I used to dress for a certain situation it's a phrase dressed to impress Wow yeah I never even put the two together yeah and I did a lot of like okay if I am going to be meeting a client today I have to wear a suit and awesome high heels so that they know I'm super powerful and I can close the deal yeah when I started dressing with 33 items or less I was working full-time selling advertising ironically and nobody noticed that I stopped wearing all the things and that I was only wearing this small handful of clothing in fact for a full year I was still with that company while I was doing the challenge and no one said a word about it and I worked with the kind of people who would notice or who sorry would say if they noticed but they never did and so that gave me so much freedom and knowing that first of all that's not how people aren't really judging you and for the small select people who are who cares if you impress them or not like if that's what they're gonna focus on you're not gonna have that deep connection or meaningful connection that you're looking for anyway because they're too consumed with their own feelings about their own clothes because when they're judging you they're really not thinking about you they're thinking about themselves like that's how we that's how judgment works right we say something but we're really just talking about ourselves and our fears and so don't worry about dress to impress or prove yourself wrong or right by doing the challenge and seeing if you impress fewer people over the course of the 90 days yeah I totally agree like Rachael needs to get behind the why like why does she care about being trendy if it is about you know other people's judgments on her it's like do you really want to go out of your way to impress people who are going to judge you based on what you wear I'll tell you what though retail companies and clothing companies love when people get this insecurity because this causes them to buy more goods like I mean Rachel if she is in a professional setting as you need some professional we're closed but does it have to be the latest trendiest thing I mean is that gonna yeah that might even get in the way in a weird way when something is yeah I have a few sort of minimal Maxim's here that maybe we can unpack together first one as trendy is just a fancy way to say soon to be out of fashion hmm I mean when you think about things that are that are sort of timeless when I say timeless something within our lifetime timeless I don't mean that like the are three outfits were wearing right now we would have been thought of as insane people when the 12th century in England or something wearing this but now if I walked in with like a suit and a boulder hat on you would be like what are you doing hipster yeah but actually you know we're gonna talk about this maybe during the Maxima but I've got some really good examples of people who have timeless wardrobes that would work today the same they worked in the 50s or the 90s or whenever in between and so my second minimal maximum here which we can put in the show notes as well is trendy looks good today timeless looks great every day and I think that too often when we when we chase a trend what what happens is you look at the people who were sort of on the cutting edge of trendy say in the 90s I'm trying to think of like NSYNC for example the band see hammer MC Hammer is a great example Fenella is another great example right and so you have these these trendy folks who were really at the moment in that exact moment were sort of the epitome of cool and fashionable but imagine if someone was even if Courtney wood walked in here today we're in the MC Hammer pants or the vanilla eye itself that you would have been like what are you doing yeah and so trendy is is is chasing something whereas as wearing something timeless is a way for us to still be ourselves and express ourselves but not in a way that is well we talked about this last week with with Pete Peter Allen's mimetic desires versus personal desires trendy is a mimetic desire it is imposed on you the society as a whole and if you can if you can let go of that I think what you do is you actually bring your real self to the forefront yeah you may notice you don't really feel that comfortable in the trendy clothes either because it doesn't really fit you like your lifestyle or your personality so we try to fit ourselves in a not I'm not using that term like fit your body but try to fit into these these ways that were supposed to look and then we end up feeling like phonies if Ryan came in here today wearing a fedora it probably wouldn't work because he that's not who he is right there are some people we have we have good friends like Andy Davis I've never seen him without a fedora yeah and he totally pulls it off it looks great on him by the way he's gonna be performing at our Sacramento Show come on yeah I cannot wait anyway Rachel I'm gonna send you a copy of project 333 because I'd like you to try it out for three months you don't have to get rid of any of your existing clothes just set them aside put them in some boxes and and make room for your favorite clothes I bet you'll feel better at the end of those three months our next question is from Chloe in well our old stomping grounds Troy Ohio which is a suburb actually it's where podcast Shawn grew up he grew up just just south of Troy and tip City and so we have a question from Chloe in Troy Ohio I've recently pared down on my belongings including my wardrobe I now love everything I own and only what I only kept the items that are most versatile and look the best on me in my opinion however no matter how confident I feel leading the house it seems that when I see other women who look trendy and fashionable I start to feel my confidence dissipating I'm not sure why this happens and was wondering if you guys tend to feel this way too or if you have any suggestions to keep me from giving in to the temptation of expanding my wardrobe just to look trendy and when I feel this way Coria I've certainly noticed this with me and with other people where we simplify but then we still feel the tug of of the tantalizing consumerism and so we see other people and of course the best recipe for discontent is to compare ourselves to the lives of other people it's why Instagram is really good at making us feel bad about ourselves you could tweet that shot so corny when when I don't know if you ever struggle with this or if you work with people who have struggled with this but quite often we we feel good about ourselves until we see someone else and then all of a sudden we feel like we have to do what they are doing yeah interestingly with this challenge I found myself becoming more confident because I wasn't relying on my outsides to exude that confidence and show the world how put together I was when the reality was I wasn't all that put together so I felt again like we were talking about earlier just kind of fake so really starting to become more me dressing for myself and and just being myself even though that wasn't probably measuring up to a lot of people's standards in terms of being put together I felt better and more confident but I can understand when you see someone else especially in the very beginning that you think maybe I should be doing that too and that is the the comparison trap and that's all it is is a trap like there's no winning no getting out until you decide I'm not gonna focus on that I'm not going to compare myself to other people it's a huge mindset shift but it really is the only way to break that kind of that oh I need that because those shoes are so cute that she has on or she looks so darling and her blazer I need that because you know that when you wear that blazer you're gonna look different like it's not gonna look the same on you as it does on her or on a mannequin or whatever yeah well I think Chloe really what she wants is she wants to you know stand out in her own individualized way and she's looking at someone who who is standing out and she's like oh I want to stand out like that but there are ways to do that with a capsule wardrobe I mean I you know wear black all the time and I wear orange shoelaces because it's like one little thing I can like pop off and like not just have this whole Gothic look going on but to your point to Courtney like when I talk to people my personality is the colour like that is that is the the trendiness or that is the accent that is Who I am and people they might look first at me which I would argue with this wonderful smile they don't think this but maybe they look at me at first then they're like and they're like man that guy he looks like God he looks gothic he wearing all black but as soon as I start to talk to me they realize that like I am far from that so yes Chloe please don't pressure yourself to look like so and so who has the awesome blazer wear shoulder pads are women still do and shoulder pads these days I have no idea but like don't don't compare yourself to others just be yourself and your personality will speak for itself but again if you do want to do a little you know be a little trendy and kind of stand out a little bit pick something like your shoe I mean I think there's something small you can do that'll help you stand out and still look you know a little trendy you know my my wife deals with the her and I were talking about this just a couple weeks ago she's like I always I see someone who's who in fact she just wrote about this on her blog minimal wellness but she she was like you know I see someone who is really trendy and all of a sudden I feel compelled to dress like that other person but of course whenever I think Bex almost always looks best like she never looks better than when she's wearing like a white t-shirt and like some faded blue jeans like like there's something elegant about simplicity I think with with minimalism the bones are the beauty of the thing now Courtney you talked about this in the book though it doesn't mean that everyone has to go out and and dress and all monochrome either right yeah it's really interesting there are so many colorful patterned capsule wardrobes out there and often times look the first thing usually I hear from people when I show my wardrobe is oh it's so boring like so much black so many neutral colors but here's the thing my life is really interesting and before when my wardrobe was every color every pattern everything I had to give so much attention to it because of course only one thing matched with one thing that I think it took away creativity from other areas of my life and made other areas of my life boring and so to switch that with such a great trade I mean now everything I wear goes with everything I own that's kind of labor Garanimals know you don't do what are they Garanimals Garanimals no maybe I don't remember how to spell it you make it sound like the tony the tiger animals but it was this little system for kids forever ago where they were like they had little pictures of animals to tell what matched with what i'm almost sure it was called Garanimals okay anyway anyway so yes you can wear whatever you want within these 33 items it can be colorful blacks not the answer for everyone but for me even when I had all the things I was still wearing mostly black like the items that were because I was just more comfortable in them yeah I love what you said about you know how you have an interesting life or maybe an exciting life it's like do you want to have an exciting life or an exciting wardrobe like you don't have to have both yeah and I think part of that has to do really with with priorities here and it's not that you want to not make your wardrobe a priority at all it just seems that maybe sometimes we put too much emphasis on the Wardrobe and as though if I buy this shirt or this blouse or this pair of jeans then I'm going to feel more complete Andy Davis has that great line we were speaking about Andy Davis a moment ago he said we struggle to pay rent because jeans are expensive yeah and that is really just highlighting mismatched priorities right and so Chloe I also want you to get really clear on what your priorities are I'm gonna send you a copy of our book essential it's an essay collection with 12 different chapters about 12 areas of intentional living one of those chapters is about getting your priorities straight I think you'll find a lot of value in that so if you like our podcast you're like the audiobook version of that or if you want the book book or the eBook version we're happy to send those to you as well all right Ryan what time is you know what time it is it is time for us to answer your text messages yes indeed you can text questions and comments - 937 - Oh two four six five four those text messages go straight to Ryan's and my phone and we answer our favorite questions on the podcast or we'll also respond to you directly the text message now we can't answer every single question but we do reply to a lot of them cut in there yesterday I was like instantly overwhelmed I was like I'm not gonna do this right now I'll hop in there for like half an hour or so and I would just respond to a bunch of people as many people as I can now during the lightning round this is where Ryan and I and Courtney today we answer questions with just a short shareable less than 140 character response and we put the text to these minimal Maxim's in the show notes so you can copy and share our pithy answers on social media and you can find all of our minimal Maxim's in one place over at minimal Maxim's com now Courtney don't worry you don't have to actually make it a hundred forty characters we just ramble on a bit until we get something good oh by the way this text message thing again the number nine three seven two oh two four six five four we're getting ready to be we're gonna be in Salt Lake City next week strangely money so we're gonna I think we're gonna do we used to do these like little small events called tweet ups remember tweet ups back in the day where we'd send out a tweet and then a dozen or five dozen people would show up at a coffee shop I think we're gonna do that with the text message group now so if you text us and we'll be able to send out a text just to people who are in the Salt Lake City area and as we go to more cities I'd love to try this this model out and have a few dozen people to show up at a coffee shop so the only way that you'll be able to know and maybe we can drag Courtney out to this so this Victor she lives in Salt Lake City well we'll let you know about it and yeah lots of fresher haha anyway we got a question here Ryan yeah Erica America how do you ensure your clothes last longer I wear the same clothes that I love but they need to be replaced quicker especially shoes so that was the thing about the challenge right about a project 333 is like you lose people at the shoes right and and so Erica is asking how do I make my clothes last longer and here's one my minimal maximum is I'm recycling our most popular one here love people use things because she said I wear the same clothes that I love and and and I want to discourage you from loving your clothes and I want you to enjoy your clothes I want you to use your clothes I want you to feel good about the clothes that you're wearing when we love the clothes I think sometimes what happens and we need more words for love anyway right if she doesn't mean that she like heartthrobs over her clothes and her clothes burn up she would have a funeral for them and cry it's it's it's just the word that we kind of throw out there and not really thinking about the problem is with the language we use also has a weight to it right and so I I try to save that that we're in fact that we've got Ella saying you know I don't love my toys I love mom and so like trying to use the more appropriate language so saying I enjoy my clothes or I use my clothes that's one way to maybe untether from from that feeling you have but Courtney she she says yeah I want quality clothes but I feel like I always have to replace my clothes what do you say I say do laundry better yes so people ask me about laundry a lot like I'm really surprised I think my next book is going to be all about laundry because it always comes up within the context of the challenge and I'm supposed to fold myself well you have socks so I don't do any more or less laundry than I did pre project 333 however I do laundry better so I wash all my clothes in cold water and I line dry almost everything so that's what I recommend I think it'll really help in terms of your clothes lasting longer just don't put them through the dryer and and if you do put them in the dryer use like a wool dryer ball yeah those are oh yeah they're great and fabric softeners so bad for your everything shouldn't be in your house so yeah with detergents like yeah wrong detergents they have all the chemicals they'll destroy your clothes there are some great affordable eco-friendly detergents I don't know the names of any and now a word from our sponsor just kidding so yes that's how to make your clothes last longer and otherwise think about it like this when your clothes didn't wear out you had all it's because you had so many backups so it's not like replacing something is worse than owning twelve versions of it right right I mean that that's the thing I'd rather have one high-quality pair of pants than ten crappy pairs of pants that I mean that does me that's worse for the environment it's also worse for my psyche and for my closet and for my home and everything else right and so having the appropriate amount doesn't mean you're gonna have to never replace you're not gonna buy 33 out of their clothing and say well I'm set for life no I'm set for a season now it doesn't mean a literal season but whatever that season of your life is but occasion you got to replace some things I have my shoes resoled from time to time but eventually I have to have those replaced even and it's okay it's not about consuming nothing it's about consuming less because you're consuming more intentionally yeah and when you're wearing like the same like my jeans for example they will wear out within and well if before I was started getting Mission workshop which this is not sponsored by nishin workshop they just have really good high-quality jeans but before that I was wearing my jeans out probably once every 6 or 7 months I never want I never walked I never wash them well you know it's funny Josh him and I will like purchase the same exact like phone or you know like our laptops that we got however many years ago like we get it at the same time and my stuff will always break and wear out first josh has very kindly lovingly pointed out to me I'm very rough on my things because I you know I'm not um yeah I don't care about how they look or you animal yeah yeah I'm very enthusiastic with my things but what I'll say though is in might this leads into my pet the answer which is err on this err on the side of quality not trendy so when I go to purchase clothing I am looking for a high quality product and like for example my t-shirts again not a spot but they're from son of a tailor and they do really awesome work like you they literally give you shirt that fits you great you send them measurements they'll send you a couple shirts you try them on if it looks good you order some more and they're a little bit more expensive per t-shirt but like I've had these t-shirts for like going on three years now and like they have I mean they're starting to fade a little bit but but three years old whereas before I would get like an American Apparel because it was it did look good on me an American Apparel like at some point was like you know cool and trendy but they would wear out really really cool American Apparel shirt right now and that's that's actually a really important thing to highlight wouldn't you say Courtney like what works for Ryan may not work for me may not work for you and vice versa right and so it's not about what's appropriate for someone else and then applying that to our life it's figuring out what's appropriate for you right yeah there's no you can't say this is the rule and it works for everyone I wish I could you just have to figure it out but by playing around and and and just seeing it would be so much easier if that was the case isn't it I don't know why the lake here are the seven brands I can't live without and you shouldn't even well you know it's interesting is I was have this conversation yesterday with Jillian and Nathanael from the bergamont a great great band by the way if our listeners haven't heard of them check them out but we I was talking about how we human beings obsess over the one like we are so fascinated with the best the greatest I mean to the point where like most religions are monotheistic these days it's like we are so obsessed with the perfect one because it's so much easier if we could just be told what the one is but you know what if you want to find the one for yourself like it takes a little bit of work yeah yeah and I think that mentality of the only shirt you'll ever need or the only whatever that you'll ever buy that it it's appealing because it it seems simple but it's actually simplistic and there is a difference between the two when we oversimplify something that requires a bit more nuance what it actually creates is a form of spartan ism that is also not healthy I mean hoarding is one side Spartan ISM is the other side of that same the same all right before we get into our added value segment and our listener tips today it looks like we have a bunch more surprise questions this week yes we do Ryan what is the best place to shop for minimalist clothing we we've got several places we can talk about who are the most stylish minimalists you know we'll talk about some stylish people I'm looking at one he's looking at Cortney right now how do I let go of the regret I feel for getting rid of previous clothing items that seems to be a big one this one came up a lot right also how do I create a minimalist fashion brand that bucks consumerism we might argue about that what are your best tips for online shopping and what to avoid how can you keep a very small wardrobe from feeling boring how do you incorporate bright colors and patterns without looking like you're wearing the same thing repeatedly and what are the five best and five worst clothing companies in terms of sustainability Plus we're gonna talk about capsule wardrobes and much much much more several more questions for Cortney Carver and if you want to hear all that listen to this week's maximal episode that's right you're currently listening to our weekly minimal episode but each week Ryan and I record an entirely different much longer much more personal maximal episode on the minimalist private podcast which gives us the space we need to talk about things we don't usually talk about in public also it's the best way for us to fund this podcast keep it 100% advertisement free when you subscribe the minimalist private podcast on patreon you'll also receive a personal link so that our maximal episodes play in your favorite podcast app find all the details at the minimalists comm slash support Ryan what else here are some voicemail comments and tips from our listeners hi this is Nancy from Iowa my 91 year old mother who lives in a senior apartment complex stayed at my home for Christmas we watched some DVDs that my middle lust millennial children watched years ago these Disney movies musicals and teen comedies were things that she had never seen before she laughed a lot and it got me thinking that most seniors in her complex had not seen these light-hearted comedies and musicals either we boxed up all of the movies my children loved but now stream instead and donated them to the senior complex for their weekly movie nights these movies are now also seen in the neighboring nursing home hi my name is Chi made possible I just wanted to recommend a book called simplicity parenting by Kim Jong Paine and Lisa and Roth and it talks about similar things about how to parent simplistically and I also wanted to recommend Waldorf education wal gorf founded by Rudolf Steiner this kind of education I'm a Waldorf teacher and it really just aligns with a lot of the principles that you talked about and I think it's a really great source really good choice for education if people want to live aligning with minimalist ideas alright so thanks again to Cortney Carver for joining us today a few things check out her book project 333 also her her daughter Bailey have a new podcast together you got to check this out it's called soul and wit we'll put a link to that in the show notes and you can find her blog as well the thing that inspired us very early on when we first embarked on minimalism it's called be more with less they'll also be a link to that and the show notes and real quick four right here right now here's one thing that's going on in the life of the minimalists actually two things Ryan at the end of last year or the actually beginning of this year a lot of people make resolutions right I want to read more I'm gonna read 52 books this year a book a week and sometimes these things become so like outlandish we just give up really quickly right but I know a lot of people do want to read more and read more books specifically and so I wrote this essay called why did we stop reading and I'm gonna put a link to that in the show notes as well but in there it also talks about the four my four favorite recent books that I read over the course of the last year so I you and I are very fortunate we get to read quite a few books just for the podcast in fact but I read quite a few books last year and the four that really stood out to me in that essay so I sort of talk about them and why they really resonated with me you can find out that at the minimalists comm slash reading and also Ryan we're getting ready to go on tour yes we should talk about this right now okay let's announce the tour guests so that we're going to have so we're doing eight tour stops mm-hmm and help me out with my math here if we're doing we're gonna have two guests at each style Graham a musical guest a special musical guest and then we're gonna have a special podcast guest yes I'd eat stop so if we have two guests over eight stops I believe that sixteen guests if my maths is right he's got a calculator out for this one so you are correct and we're gonna have 16 guests we're gonna talk about each of those let's just sort of start from the south and work our way up in San Diego I'm doing this from memory our special musical guest is going to be Railly Nicole who we love her music she's actually opened up an event for us in San Diego before and so we're gonna have her back is she is wonderful and and it's like the perfect San Diego vibe sort of music - so she's gonna open the show with that and then our friend leo bob alta who has never been on this podcast before eventually yeah he is he just moved to San Diego he was in our documentary he's certainly one of the people who inspired us early on to embrace and embark on this minimalist journey on this minimalist journey but he is going to be our special guest in San Diego and that is going to be what a great song yeah he's so insightful and you know full of those in wisdom yeah and hopefully that'll rub off on us and he'll be answering your questions with us on stage moving up north we're gonna be in Orange County Erwin McManus who has been on this podcast with us before one of my favorite episodes that we've done he'll be the guests there and our musical guest in Orange County is going to be Rosie Golan who's also been on our podcast before yeah that's gonna be a fun event and then in Los Angeles who's gonna do our music in Los Angeles I don't know Lee DeWyze oh yeah that's right you booked Lee - I know [Laughter] it all starts running together Noli is yeah he's one of my favorite artists man it's such a great live show he's been on our podcast before yes he has and he has such you I've seen him live before him what an amazing live show so you can open up with a few songs and then we're gonna have Eric Weinstein as our podcast guest in Los Angeles oh we keep going north in San Francisco oh this is gonna be good so the podcast guest and the musical guests are actually the same guess in San Francisco one of my maybe my favorite podcast episode of all time that we've done is one we did with Matt Nathanson yeah so he's not only going to be our podcast guest but he's gonna play some of his hits at the at the opening of the podcast in in San Francisco wait a minute if he's doing both at my maths were wrong no I still got it's 16 slots he's filling the filling oh okay and then we're gonna move well I was gonna say North but it's really more East to Sacramento and Sacramento we're going to have as our podcast guest TK Coleman yeah and then Andy Davis is going to be the musical guest yeah then so we all love TK he's been on this podcast more than anyone and he's gonna be at our Sacramento stop so you can come out and join us there and then moving north Portland so actually our last three stops have the same musical guest and I'm excited about that because it's one of our favorite people Canyon City so Paul from Kenya City he's he's opened up for us several times in the past has one of my favorite albums of all time called satellites and he'll be at those last three stops in Portland and Seattle and Vancouver actually those are the first three stops last three on my list here so he'll be there and then Kevin Rose will be our podcast guest in in Portland and then in Seattle Noah Gunderson is going to be our podcast guest yeah we've never talked to him never met him one of our favorite musicians but he has a heck of a story I can't wait to talk to him about that and then finally in Vancouver to be announced I'm still working I'm waiting on one final approval before I can announce this so if you're in Vancouver and and you're looking forward to it so my and I can't wait to announce it so coming very soon if you're on our email list you'll know about it but those are the 16 slots that we're filling so it's not just the Josh and Ryan show with podcast Shawn and Jordan and Jess in the background we're gonna have some amazing people with these stops you're gonna answer your questions we're going to talk about minimalism we're gonna talk about philosophy we're gonna talk about a lot of stuff and you can find all the details that the minimalists com a slash tour get your tickets well you still can hope to see you there oh and by the way we talked about doing the Salt Lake City tweet up but with text messages yeah we're gonna do that in more cities if this one works out well in Salt Lake City so you can text us nine three seven two oh two four six five four is the number that goes to both Ryan Ryan's on my phone we try to respond to as many people as we can even though we can't respond to everyone all right you can follow the minimalists on facebook twitter and instagram at the minimalists if you have a question comment or minimalism tip for this podcast email a voice memo to podcast at the minimalists com comment on this episode at youtube.com slash the minimalists if you want our show notes in your inbox sign up for our e-mail list at the minimalists comm you'll also receive our simple Sunday emails each week for added value this week this one is for podcast Sean it's certainly one of the people that was a big influence on him for a long time it's it's amazing that how were touched by people that we we never meet right we don't get the opportunity to meet and so Sean is a drummer and and he was very much influenced by Neil Peart from Rush and so I thought we would listen today to honor Neil who who died recently we're gonna listen to second nature from Russia's album hold your fire and ice' if you leave here today with just one message we hope it's this love people and use things because the opposite never works thanks for listening y'all we'll see you next time and minimus

Channel: The Minimalists

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Length: 41min 52sec (2512 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 04 2020