EFAP #4 - "Patrick Explains STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (And Why It's Great)" Ft. Appabend

it's a record it's a record we were spotted 20 minute video and five minute connecting I don't know if that's gonna separate it's just need to like refresh the chat chat say and welcome back yeah I don't get anything hang on I'll just redo it okay well 385 people are here so I guess I can restart the story of the Jared so anyway Jared he lost his mind deleted his channel made a new one and said he is a man of substance and that he is 32 years old and he wants more people that are 32 years old just like him which I don't know why a the [ __ ] he would be so specific with that mm-hmm but also let it rip on rags didn't you oh yeah he should talk rags for a while and the The Ballad of Jared that's wonderful but basically Jared said that he wants more people that will like him not ironically but because he thinks that people will like him you know on ironically which is never going to happen so I mean he's like he said in the in his newest video I'm okay you know only 50 subs as long as they like me and it's like Jared the only people that subscribe to you subscribe to you because you're funny it's I mean you just gotta accept it kind of like Tommy wise oh did ya okay I think it's that exactly like that situation because Tommy yeah genuinely thought that he made like the next great Stanley Kubrick film and it's literally the worst movie ever made why but he understands that people don't actually own ironically like his movie everyone that likes the room likes it ironically and that's how he got his fanbase and look at where Tommy's at he's at the top of the [ __ ] world Kevin Spacey can never make a movie again in Tommy why Zoe's here at the [ __ ] Golden Globes that's that's the true yeah it made a good film right oh yeah best friends was like like actually on ironically pretty good the thing is though it was not directed written or produced by Tommy I could genuinely have seen happening write that down the line Jarrod hits like 2000 subs and then he makes like a video that actually is like a decent take on something and people like you know this is actually decent like this is good you know I need stuck in appreciation from people who aren't just looking at him as a meme but he said that's the weird thing he said he likes to be the butt of a joke when it's fun and stuff but he doesn't want to be a meme and I was like isn't that not the same kind of thing yeah he he hasn't gotten out of his Tommy what he hasn't gotten out the initial Tommy Wiseau phase he used to get into the current Tommy Wiseau phase and just accept that he's a MAME because people will actually follow him for that because that's what he does best is just acting [ __ ] weird and making people laugh but he doesn't want that I mean that was the most subs he's ever had and he threw it away because a genuinely like wolf will still cover him on his podcast the reason I'm not doing it here is because I I don't know he's like a timebomb and he and I I can just see it happen in the future we would just make a video and be like I am depressed and it's all because of the coverage from these guys streams or something like that so I'll just I'll be safe and just be like I forget if he's gonna be he comes across a little bit like flip-flopper dee you know cuz cuz he said like one thing and just completely walked back on it in this new video and delete his channel which to me I'm like woah he's willing to make some very crazy decisions instantly here is the last we heard from him was really coming on the street I'm pretty sure he's bipolar because it's like he was like actually happy he was even like making parody videos I didn't watch him because I don't think that Jared trying to parody himself would work out too well because I don't think you can parody a parody yeah yeah that was strange but yeah that's us to update you guys as to why I won't be here but it'll still be on Wolf's and I assume that what will you do now wolf is just like find the very best paper podcast isn't instead of it's like whatever's in you or whatever so I'm sure it'll be great we'll have a lot less time to laugh and a lot more time to groan yes we have I figured since weirdly trying to be you know an actual competent podcasts did people vote in the straw poll I I didn't know and checked it yeah we'll have to keep posting it throughout the stream for all of the people who pop in but yes vote in we will decide on actually giving this a name and it's it let's say this is the first official doesn't have a name podcast yet but it'll be me every time more than likely rags and wolf every time depending on who's free at what times and then there was a huge miscommunication it's a rascal there will have guests more likely as well and so app Abed welcome to the to the streaming the first guests that's also true we yeah we are a very diverse stream yes and I want to make sure to come in here just to make sure that Patrick Williams cannot criticize you because you're white I figure it makes sense cuz you've made your video of Patrick Williams so you'll be able to see the follow up see have you seen this video yet I haven't I've I've seen the first two minutes and then I stopped because I like I like it when you get sort of like the initial blast of hilarity from this but um yeah I've heard a lot as well and the comments sections already turned on we didn't take very long like apparently he's making some really fantastic audience we got to look forward to there was checked out some of the comments from the last video and something that we probably should have mentioned in conclusion on Macintosh's video was the like the entire point of his video was how we have this toxic expectation the to be a man is to essentially die to you know save the world sort of thing and that the film sort of serviettes that and it's like we I think we might have point it out but just the hilarity the whole dough and rose Tico's sister do those things exactly and they sold as like really heroic moments so it makes you wonder like how does he reconcile that but yeah a lot of people were like why didn't you comment on that and it's like apparently we missed it but very much an overall criticism of his video which makes it fall apart and there are this [ __ ] stupid voice there are people who are very unhappy that we've been we've been doing this basically responding to videos and and the accusation is people unhappy that you didn't read read a super chat oh I usually do them in a row I still good for anybody who's concerned I've got the super chats from when I the stream like screwed up we've still got them so I'll try to read some of them some of them that are there around there already been posted cuz there was a super there's a bunch of super chat than your last stream there's one that failed oh I'm sorry if I if I miss any of those that's my bad but yeah we people have been saying the wolf rags molar and not supposed to be YouTube police that's not what we're gunning for at all we're just watching these videos like sorry I thought we were the YouTube FBI person no we're not we're not trying to be the police what it is is we watch these videos with you guys we're like listening to it that's that's usually what I think is the biggest problem for these people's videos is they don't actually want you to really pay attention because half the time like if you've seen that meme on Twitter every once in a while and it says what it's like to be watching a podcast and it's like some lonely black guy eating cereal with a poster of a bunch of white chicks laughing it's kind of like that you're just like the lonely black guy that's eating cereal while watching three neck bearded youtubers laughing exactly and by the way [ __ ] the reason we're covering this one first isn't because we hate Patrick Williams this has been requested like crazy again we just got like loads of PM's being like you have to cover it and we like Patrick is such an infinite source of that it's like yeah not to like address it it is fun to do to cover them and I've heard that there is a reference to me in this video so that that's interesting as well it's not a direct reference it is it is uh I think I'm referred to as the angry guy who made five hours of ranting on on the last Jedi that's what I've heard he says man I wish I had like an air horn so I could like just because I know what the reference is yeah so I got needs with a heart from a key before he so thank you for that and the last Jedi cries out in pain as it copyright strikes you Bilbo Baggins the daily Sauron so those are the two before the the stream went down I think it's not a super chat but it's tricks rock is gay Bilbo Baggins come back it's just a lot of stuff man he gets around have any of you come in you have any of you haven't covered a video with some [ __ ] argues the sequel trilogy is basically an improved vision of the OT I swear you have my crazy I've not actually seen about that that's pretty much every single one of these people anyway so it's like well they're they're all [ __ ] and they all think that this equal trilogy is better than eot or as good so they all just kind of you know blend oh yeah there was there was a clip in my the third part of my tlj 1 where am i think it's new rock stars or collide as some channel like that where they said let's be honest the new films are just the old ones with better acting better effects and better something else and I've been like yeah I definitely through annex III I think I just play the clip and go no this is like stop Terry Crews a Siri I'm pretty sure less will get you gotta make a Terry Crews I would watch them give him like some shitty white wig and just have him go yo kill them [ __ ] it's like okay I don't mean okay with this theory this is the best iteration do we want to see him and Geralt hook up that's my [ __ ] I don't know who's gonna bottom Superman and Terry Crews that is an interesting like you know I think that'll be the final we gotta have him like a wrestle for it you know oh yeah there is I have a second channel where I'm storing these podcasts there's too many links I gotta make sure I have a link for app events channel and then also for the straw poll and also for my second Channel I don't like podcasting it's too much pressure wolf a cut soy-based Trump hater but all right I don't know we got a comment on the last stream that said couldn't go a bit more than 5 minutes I hate Trump fans well something like that and I was like do we wait did we mention Trump like I don't not that I remember but I it's also 5 hours so it's hard to tell we don't know what we said after an hour passes it's like a like I just got banned from Twitter for 7 days for saying things that were deemed too right-wing I don't get that you have to keep reminding people you vote for Bernie Sanders don't you I gotta keep reminding people that I'm not a Nazi but you know people will just make up whatever the [ __ ] they want if they think I'm it's funny because both sides hate me I get one side that's like oh you're alright and the other one the other ones like you drink soy because you hate Trump and it's like I give credit to Trump more often than not you didn't join now Fareed that's why people hate you okay okay there's only one thing I drink it it's generally Pepsi and and not seen any soy on here Diet Pepsi is filled with soy we know this well I don't drink Diet Pepsi because I'm not a regular Pepsi's also fill the soy oh that's probably what it was the Colin Kaepernick stuff that was talked about right the beginning I think interesting powers I just asked you guys what happened because I don't know anything about it but apparently that makes me a trump supporter as well so interesting yeah we got a whoohoo finally catching a stream on a day off love you guys looking forward to five hours of fun I hope you both available for five nothing else to two of your lives they'll be great wolf question [ __ ] [ __ ] you for making me have to answer that [ __ ] I'd say Geralt only because he uses magic and Aragorn can't yeah otherwise if it was a fair fight then oh [ __ ] no bein well Geralt gets his ass kicked a lot so I'd say probably Aragorn if the fight was fair how does it feel knowing we know you're a pleb for dropping the expanse before episode 5 well I like the expense books but I mean and you know if the acting wasn't [ __ ] if the effects weren't [ __ ] if the soundtrack wasn't if I don't know the shows the show like loosely follows the books and just has a lot of terrible effects like obviously the acting is abysmal because it's a [ __ ] sci-fi show so I haven't seen it so I can't call him if he's if he's wrong on this I'm just going to say I trust you well if you probably 100% right and I'll never watch the show like that a [ __ ] up Miller best character in the whole first book and they [ __ ] him up damn some [ __ ] [ __ ] with this shitty haircut we were taught to laugh that would get started so YouTube police would have to arrest Wolff for food you fear eNOS I'm not even in harm censure and makes sense yeah yeah we make some type of drinking game I mean every every time he pulls would kill you set it up you have to leave it to the audience to come up with it because you know we're not creatives we don't meet mean wolf enough and we don't really make anything typically speaking we just just sit here and talk off of other channels exactly that that's a hundred percent a Harley Morenstein no science of Epic Meal Time is made an hour-long video telling people who lost it I doesn't suck we suck it loves to video on it I don't know if we can do our long videos on this like we'll never be able to complete an hour video will we not like I don't I still don't know how we're gonna do that trro stream yeah I know that's gonna be interesting so that's a that's two hours we're gonna have to like no because we can't cut off their long rags clips because then that'll like hurt the ability to respond to their points every time wolf sighs a defeat take a drink so anyway just just to send out the three links that I actually do need to promote as a responsible podcaster strawpoll helps decide on what name we're actually going to name this thing our guest is a band where you kind of have to subscribe otherwise you're not really a true fan of this stream because let's be honest that's how it works and then and then this podcast will be stalled on my second channel so all three of those links they go I'll probably have to do it again after where's dude when this is you realize you're watching Mahler's channel right so yeah we Oh is everyone happy to begin yeah let's do it I'm not happy that I will begin we've all we all know the last Jedi very well and it looks as if we're about to be schooled on why it's actually great by the racists himself hey man it's not right not to sidetrack but I think it was a h-bomb guy who's asked on Twitter recently why is it racist no is it racist to say the Japanese people suck but also not racist to say the white people suck and then he said yes and then I looked at like the responses and I don't know man that side of the aisle like they 100% and I don't know what side of it's like a giant circle whatever side they represent but they were all like yeah it's it's totally not racist to say anything bad about white people as a whole and it's just like how does that work is it it's not being updated in the dictionary yet that racism is about power as well as race because if that happened I feel like there would be riots in the streets very salty because he's still very salty because the Japanese turned Sherlock Holmes to Anatomy what what is that a bad thing yeah yeah yeah yeah they actually did and he said in one of his videos he's like you saw he's got he got so [ __ ] salty about it yeah well either way I just don't I don't get the rules I've talked about it with other people before it's just like if they could just provide me a consistent rules on this whole thing then maybe I could get on board but seems like you you contradicts themselves quite a bit so it gets confusing anyway Patrick Williams has previously said that if you're a a white critic you won't have much to offer on black films I suppose obviously the reference was black panther so that will be coming up here because there's plenty of people who were white in Star Wars so we can still offer something I think that's how that works hello and do you think he's gonna tell us that because we're white our opinions don't matter as he's a white guy telling us that's still the thing people would point out that's why you have me here that's why you might be here so that can validate you guys that you guys matter yes basically you're our brown knight you shine a light in the darkness for a when we were wandering around wondering if we racist or not you you are proof that we are not so uh now I suppose let's begin previously on Patrick explains oh wow I feel so awake right now it's dream do you think it's that T he's been drinking my tea wait pause now I gotta see what the ingredients are to Barry's tea soy of it you serious you only want to know because if it is I I think that will be absolutely hilarious let's see it's strange too to bring in maidenhair and I'm assuming that this is something he's done before wise wouldn't it be very strange for the pair and said enough berries let me show the ingredients that's what I need to know both doing the important investigations well you know people need to know rooms true okay even even if it's not there he can actually disp or soy milk in it yeah wool doesn't prove anything that is true cuz he did have that jug of milk with him in the last video we saw exactly ok here we go no way that's [ __ ] come on where's the ingredients you think you just have this I'm gonna add some water to shop here we go it's the red one ok just go on with the video I'll keep doing my alright you continue the sleuth in the background I guess take what's going on nothing I just wanted to come back see you guys and have a chat what's with the camera oh I'm recording this so I can put it on the Internet obviously I think we're ignoring the bigger question who's that person next to the camera so oh that's just my intern apparently that's a lot of Americans seem to have been kids of people who have immigrated over I guess but I guess the dad is American of the the mum is Irish I'm little bit confused though I don't know this is a bit of a strange one man it was greater fair enough also here's an integer I'm not sure what this kid is supposed to represent I'm assuming it there's gonna be a payoff like or is this a format maybe maybe it's a format that he runs where he like explains films to his parents or something like that soy in tea there is soy in it isn't it dependent on what you're using I guess I don't know it's Barry's teammate and it's fascinating how invested you are in finding out well I just really want to know because because it would just be like the cherry on top like well I mean the cherry on top would be if he's a Jew this would be like the whipped cream the edge Tunes to little edge you're gonna crank it up well if they get an intern usually I'm here to talk about movies I think are underrated that don't get the attention they deserve but this one is different I want to talk about the biggest movie of 2017 a movie that pretty much everyone who watches movies has seen it probably is yes yes I was just thinking like would 2018 the biggest movie being one correct thing that that's would it be better infinity would be the biggest of 2018 or is it someone else Oh undoubtedly Black Panther I wonder I wonder if it did better than the last Jedi or not like overall or even an opening box office I'm sure but yeah fair enough that's probably true then I want to talk about Star Wars Episode eight the last Jedi because for some reason a whole lot of people don't like this movie yes a lot of people yes yes yes they don't like this movie it's like it's almost like he doesn't know kind of like you know how he admitted to only talking to people he respects and likes because he lives in an echo chamber I you know I can actually say I understand why people like it because I've heard what they say about it it's not necessarily accurate to the film every time but I know what I know what they say what they say they like my sister likes it then again she's dumb oh no no my brother didn't like it my little brother didn't like it because he saw a twin when I rub out more died he was like he stood up on the under theatre I was like he pulled his two middle finger on the screen it's like genuinely I'd miss till my first watched roof I missed him if it was true that they said I had my car I died and I was like when I'd finished the film I haven't even thought about the fact he wasn't there yet and then I remember reading online it's like they unceremoniously flushed him out the freaking [ __ ] but I was like really yeah he was so pissed in that like he just he just stood up on the freakin theaters I could throw his middle finger on the to screen it's like Jesus Christ yes it's it's crazy that they at least at least Akbar end a throwaway line at least that's what he got that you know what what did what did the brand-new character that nobody connected to at all hold Oh get it's like she got probably one of the most self sacrificial set pieces in the history of Star Wars but uh you know be him that sacrifice himself in there yeah cuz I don't even necessarily defend the the ramming manoeuvre but [ __ ] I'll throw Akbar in there instead of hold Oh make Akbar the one who wouldn't tell Po the plan whatever why do you need hold oh he could even scream it's a trap as he's flying it into the supremacy a little people saying afters I mean the stream is down now ffs just to repay respect for okay why would you the film didn't pay in respect for you are really angry about it now instead of telling you why you should see it since everyone watching this already has I want to tell you why I love it because I do good he can this is gonna be a big difference when he tells us why he loves it is he gonna cite things that actually happened or is he gonna make stuff up or is he gonna change parts of the film or he's gonna ignore parts of the film is he just to say I loved it cuz that's fine you're welcome to love it when you start telling people stuff like Poe didn't tell her the plant because she didn't tell PO the plant because it makes total sense and I love it it's like the best Star Wars movie since the Empire Strikes Back sorry I missed that I'm sorry what I missed that Empire last time I missed that people are really angry about it now instead of telling you why you should see it since everyone watching this already has I want to tell you why I love it because I do I think this movie is goddamn incredible it is easily the best Star Wars movie since the Empire Strikes Back and today no no no wrong wrong so he's saying it's better than Return of the Jedi all the prequels those awakens wrong rogue one wrong and so I'd rather watch the Ewok adventures movies than watch the last again cuz at least like the Ewok adventures movies were so bad it was like kind of funny the character be given respect to the Ewok the very least it was just funny to watch a bunch of little teddy bears beat up Tusken Raiders that were on Endor for no reason it's fun to see Ewok watching porn why wouldn't you just say I like it more than the all the other boobs why do you have to say it is better than everything since they're just like okay make it harder dude go on do go on to go on doubt why so just to clarify by the end of the video we will ask ourselves did Patrick explain why the last Jedi was great good question it'll be interesting to see if we get there so I realize I already lost a lot of you right from the title of this video don't worry we're gonna stay we're gonna go through the whole video but as rad said if you actually tell me that the last Jedi is good I'm gonna be like go on yeah yeah it's like right this is the difference between us 3 and Patrick Williams or you know us 3 rags and whoever else and Patrick wields and whoever else like we will actively look for the opposite perspective because we want to hear it instead of just like no I am above that sort of thing I shall be look at good people I do not have respect for her all right some of you are only here because this showed up in your recommendations and you wanted a new opportunity to tell a stranger about why you hate this movie but I just want to say something right up front if you are a person who thinks that sjw's are diversity or feminism ruin to this movie yes I wouldn't say it's anywhere near that simple there's a [ __ ] ton of things the root were all problems what they weren't everything that destroyed the movie how you classify yes but but do go on yes but do go on I was just gonna say it's just to tell ya there's there's so many things wrong with it like those things could be label labeled that encompasses huge selection but um What did he say that he would say to the people who say that though is JW's our diversity or feminism ruin to this movie or if you want to tell me that I'm a Disney shill oh I think that's my bit right there I think he's about to bed should be our feminism ruin to this movie or if you want to tell me that I'm a Disney shill or if you're going to tell me that I should watch a five hour rant by some angry guy on YouTube [Music] I am angry right to your death song every single time they say something stupid just freaking ripped up from DPS where you go after what we used to play that for whatever vigil Christian came on because I can't do air horn well I guess I can do air horn I do have I do have air horn I will Mario you do the air horn I don't know if you guys have seen all those videos I made but like the rage one is angry sure it's in the title but the critique when I was pretty calm throughout most of it and it was very scripted like I was very descriptive I wasn't exactly going but uh I guess I am some angry guy which by the way gives us an insight into people like him and McIntosh we're you know when they say like the angry fans I want to criticize them not the ones who just didn't like it it's like I guess we slot in there even if we explain ourselves you know very slowly and very calmly it's like nah we're still the angry ones because we didn't like it it's how it works enough I mean you could probably find a part of that five hours where I sounded angrier than normal but still you know I'm happy because at least my hair line isn't that bad oh that is an ad hominem you just said his arguments a bad because of it because of his hair line it's like no it didn't it's okay guys combat he did you just beat a dick okay so yeah I am the angry man I will have to accept that I think or if you want to tell me that I'm a Disney shill or if you're going to tell me that I should watch a five hour rant by some angry guy on YouTube or if you think I should kill myself because I like the movie hang on kill yourself because you liked a movie at least nah I don't think people will be saying that [Music] some fun they will like I said cuz if you legit if people just say to die because you like something that's like yeah that they're probably not people you should give much time they still need speaking it will be go both ways if people saying you should die cuz you didn't like it you know same thing huh this is gonna be long yeah mom they really do and everyone should just remember like film about space wizards intended for children so why have you created three videos why is he yeah that's the other thing intended I would say for everyone not children isn't the whole point the style has appeals to a mass audience not just children here's here's the thing he's ripping that line from George Lucas and just being like you see the George Lucas stretches for kids like let's first off this is an idiotic argument because just because the film is for kids doesn't mean it has the right to suck because Lion King Treasure Planet Atlantis How to Train Your Dragon all incredible films it's all directed towards younger audiences yeah Pixar or Disney none new Disney new Disney sucks but yeah this right here is why it takes so long to debunk [ __ ] compared to how long it takes to generate it right so he puts that sign up and then he moves on but we've got so many character arguments first being that just because it's a kid's thing doesn't mean that you don't care about the writing that's even insulting to kids like and by kids I'm assuming we're talking about people as old as let's say fourteen will you still be it be a kid at that point right you just devalued your own movie in there yeah if you can't you can't just say that your film this is el Oh this film is actually just for kids that guys to relax wouldn't the mob the MCU be the same audience intention as Star Wars as a saga as well always oh that you say that they're a bit more adult I'm not sure well I would say they're a bit more adult in Ironman yeah they like kind of lost their balls right immediately after that but look at the look Luke seizes aunt and uncle this bodes when would advocate supply to have slit down for getting a bunch of kids like I don't know it to me it looks like oh yeah this is just the exact same thing as the lego movie you know it's it's just like that oh yeah you know five-year-olds watching Anakin slaughter a bunch of five-year-olds that's and once you move from that argument you move on to but hang on you're telling people to stop getting so angry and like you're gushing about it so one side of the emotions is okay but the other side isn't like doesn't seem very consistent it looks like you're just policing people about how they should feel yes cuz and like really telling humans how much they should care about something it's historically doesn't work very well like humans don't like it yeah let's go on of course I'm not saying you shouldn't take it seriously just you kind of do it's it's a kid movie comp doubt also take you seriously like what my brother did seriously and he got pissed off I'm confused what does he trying to say let's just back it up cuz he's saying he's not saying to not take it seriously he's saying intended for children I'm not saying you shouldn't take it seriously just maybe don't get too angry about it we're not don't get too angry about angry what are we allowed to get too happy is there such a thing as too happy because I'm assuming that's what like some of this comes down to it's it's a matter of you can feel positively but you cannot feel negatively IIIi don't see like like like that five-hour video I don't see her being angry at all I mean you're just explaining or maybe it's five hours so I must have been angry to make something like that it couldn't be that angry when you were like to have dishonored wolf guy his thor ragnarok video was honestly terrible had no cogent arguments I was you know I was very angry I shouldn't get that angry about a movie this many children like thor ragnarok exactly Thank You Patrick or what I mean honestly for Ragnarok was more child oriented than the last Jedi look I think what we can take from this is the you know when you you sign up with your you book to go see a movie as you walk in Patrick will be standing then you go can you just how invested am I allowed to be and then he's like it's a seven on this one seven out of ten like Thank You Man just just now I wonder what objective lens he gets because it because you you know why he feels like he's on the upper end of this one he's like calm down don't get so angry and everyone's like ah true so I don't get out the emotional scale for the people who are going nuts like Patrick talking about how it's incredible it's great the visual language the subtext the lessons it teaches of humanity and you have like a five-year-old like yeah like all right it's not bad for you I guess sorry I it's very interesting that he said that yeah you shouldn't be angry about this like I'm not even a Star Wars fan like I'm not a Star Wars fan like I could see like that film it's [ __ ] terrible like I'm not even a Star Wars fan like I am resource of demographics like you know when people bring up Star Wars back then you didn't you episodes came in like seven Episode seven came in it was intended for like to bring people go back to Star Wars like a Star Wars exist like hey come here Star Wars is back at games like I don't want to like one of the newcomers like their target audience like but even I was like okay seven was and then you have rogue one which I gotta say one is the best the best out of all of them but it was still yeah and then your last Jedi which was just even have solo the ass stuff get really lazy like hey that's like you don't even care anymore all right Patrick now that you snow you've you've dashed all of the evil haters let's hear some of these arguments oh my god your hammer pulled you okay you got a point there now I forgot about that well thus this is the thing that I was clarifying if if Star Wars is oriented to children surely the MCU is as well because they have I think what wolf is trying to say is that toll for Ragnarok is a lot more childish oh I agree humor they even like they make light of all the dramatic things that happen they're like yeah that's more what I was going for it like the kind of tone throughout the movie when last Jedi Eve was more serious adult jokes hidden and kid stuff though like this is the thing I talk about because we enjoy children's stuff stuff that was clearly meant for children because you can make it good you can tell a good stick you don't it's implied with with what he said that you need sex violence drugs and whatever else to tell a story that's interesting for adults like no you don't you really don't you can literally be a story about friendship and that's it Shrek well people are referencing Shrek now yeah I think Shrek is good editor's beeps but yeah dog jokes in it shrek 2 is good [ __ ] - he was the best shrek 3 is the worst oh god yeah and this is the thing like what is he I mean - what if I took the shrek seriously and talked about how good I thought that was writing wise Adventure Time you know I don't really I wish I wish he was here so I could be like Patrick what does that mean though what are you saying when people celebrate how well written something like Wally or Incredibles or Monsters Inc is are you like oh god calm down it's a kids thing because you do it to the negative side but you do it to the positive side you do you keep that consistent probably not he does it again what did he just do how do we rewind hang on yeah you did rewind this is a film about space wizards intended for children seriously just maybe don't get too angry about it we're not talking about gun control here we're talking about a movie about space was and he said the you're he's basically saying you can care about politics but you can't care about media come on politics is one thing but media this is a kids movie for space with remember Patrick's politics include hating white people so I don't understand this at all it's so confused to keep track of I think it comes down to he's gonna use this argument against the people who are making counter organs to the film to try and bat them off but he won't he won't allow it to be applied to himself simply the chatter pointing are rightfully pointing out what is gun control how is that even a good analogy about politics he's gotta be poor that's his point that you you should be serious about politics you shouldn't be serious about media I guess that's what he means even though he's very serious about media he has a whole career based on it so I don't understand you should be less angry control is on the same level of criticism correct Patrick there's intended for children anyway it sucks that I feel like I have to say that and it's probably not even worth wading into the shitstorm and wait honestly Oh what so now he's like I probably should have said that because they'll be counter arguments go on just go on why do you like his film this this like [ __ ] five minute disclaimer please leave me alone oh there you go that's all that's all this is whatever comes down to I just love this movie that's it I want to talk about it okay but if you talk about it on a public space expect people to talk back that is how this works so the disclaimer you missed I'll just start the video here to be perfectly honest with you but hey before I start talking about the last verb god I need to quickly run for wait a second he was talking to his parents this whole time right I don't know if that's what's actually happening or if he filmed those bits like separately because he's just like mom dad shut up and watch me make this video yeah I guess I don't know if they're gonna be replying or if they just for jokes though I guess we'll find out context matters I really love the original trilogy I think the prequels are generally not good even if they contain some cool ideas I think the force awakens is yeah it plays things super safe and basically just hits all the beats from a new hope but the movie had to do three things it had to feel like Star Wars again it had to introduce new characters that we wanted to follow into future movies and it had to bridge the 30 year gap in had to bridge the video gap well I guess it failed in that regard to me yeah like we skipped the bridge part and went to the other side I'm sorry but if to complement the force awakens' I would never cite that it bridged the gap it didn't bridge any gap it practically skipped the gap yeah wouldn't like the force unleashed which is intentionally supposed to be okay this is what happened I mean three and four work more as a bridging the gap part this is skipping the gap this is on the other side of the gap yeah I don't understand I could possibly assume bridging the gap between it between what like the OT and itself because what else would it connect to I don't even know what he's trying to say with that anyway I don't think he understands what bridging the gap means is a phrase the 30 year gap in the story it did ridiculously well at the first two and what the third oh okay okay he said that it was great in that regard at least at least he said that it was it wasn't great obviously we would consider it to be a complete nutter sham but he's saying it wasn't great a little frustrating that we don't really know what the political landscape of the galaxy is and how the Republic works and what the significance of the husband system and destroyed actually is yeah but I also get that they wanted to return to a familiar dynamic I don't need to see Snoke a Star Wars story to understand who that guy is and what is dealing as if it him is if you need a whole movie to be able to explain a character we still don't know he is he's saying that we don't need to know at all it's really sad because he's he's one of the few feelings that actually have potential to actually be you know like the the overarching villain for the entire but now we have only kylo again the interesting thing is that a handful of people will say that Palpatine was you know very underdeveloped in the OT that we don't get quite quite a lot for him and yet he's what got way more of a character than Snoke did so it's like talk about super underdeveloped and I don't get people who are like we didn't need a huge backstory for this villain and it's like we'd never get a huge backstory like what was the backstory for Count Dooku was the backstory for Darth you know and only including the films because I guess it makes we don't need a backstory we need a story like that's true yeah just give us any reason to understand why they're here and they have what goal like that's like all we needed to know about Darth Maul was that he was evil Darth well yeah he was uh he was a former Jedi yeah and bet he got seduced by Sidious all I need to know about Sidious was that he was a Sith and he's evil and that's really all there needs to be the problem with Snoke the difference here is that Snoke just comes out of nowhere when the last time we saw any of these characters the galaxy was at peace so where he came from makes no sense because the last time we saw any of these characters it was the Sith were defeated completely so where did this guy come from is he a sip I mean he brought it up the bridging the gap thing and it's like Snoke is absolutely the probably the most important component for bridging the gap because he's the guy who changed everything he re ignited the Empire and he turned kylo and ended up getting the Jedi destroyed so that's the entire positive faction have been destroyed by Snoke he showed Snoke on a video maybe he looks right you'll explain it maybe set a dark evil a Star Wars story I would watch it somewhat the significance of the hosnian system being destroyed actually is they want to return to oh your dynamic I don't need to see Snoke I know as a familiar dynamic a good film for the sake of making it seem like the original trilogy wait what I mean they gotta get the old fans back that's the point to her cabin Strikes Back I'd watch the Star Wars story to understand who that guy is and what his deal is so now that the force awakens had brought Star Wars back to the thing that we love there was no longer two hours of Hayden Christensen green screened into ugly cgi where did we go - gotta get those prequel jabs in there it's almost like a see guys laughs still better than AB though okay Patrick just because the prequels suck doesn't mean that the last Jedi doesn't stop using that as an argument no okay look yeah there are a lot of people that are saying now that that the prequels are good and they aren't and they're wrong when they say that they aren't however just because people are saying that doesn't mean the last Jedi is excused from criticism because the prequels exist by that logic and then we should excuse the fact that The Hobbit movies are terrible because the Lord of the Rings is great true Wow sort of I mean it's just backward logic anyway but this is the thing we still haven't actually like started the video yet really this is all still so but you know we're nearly there hopefully I'm wonder if he's gonna pull out a [ __ ] piece of card again - here we've got all this set up we've got a hell of a cliffhanger ending so what comes next a lot of people have a lot of demands for this movie explanations and answers and confirmations of fan theories and look like it's just like the ad says create stance the ad says create the world like what is why is this such a like crazy demand from the fans now why is that like that is crazy when JJ was the one who made us ask the questions in the first place I mean really the only thing that he I hate this argument that people keep bringing up where it's like fans are just angry because they didn't get their fan theories like anyone that knows anything about fan theories knows that fan theories in every situation are 99% inaccurate I was gonna say you know there's a [ __ ] ton of fan theories everywhere all over the place ja ja Binks is Snoke you know like that this dude they're all over the place if people with that you know attached to fan theories then every single movie everywhere would get hated on just because of that well that's the thing no one cares that much you're applying too much credit to something that no one really cares about you know what I look at it as is you have a birthday coming up and then your parents like what do you want you go surprise me and then instead of picking you up that video game you wanted or maybe some shoes you were after or a ticket to go to a place you really want it's just an empty box and they're like aha and you're like oh yeah that's a surprise it's expectations but like you just said no like I mean I guess I asked for a surprise so Wow and you get this is this immediate sense of do you hate me else is like no I just say stall was like oh okay yes being hyperbolic but it's it's it's just I I would like to hear a better argument for how this is all caused by false expectation because it just it almost seemed like a cop-out that they didn't have to do more work you know balance more of the I like to make everything fit more because if you just say that there is no answer to snoke's origin raised origin whatever else then everything you don't actually did do anything other than just tell whatever story you wanted to do in the last Jedi which as we found out that he got rid of the notes from JJ Abrams that a Rian Johnson clearly did come in wanting to tell his own story which there you go like he doesn't care what the first and third movie was in the trilogy he said he doesn't care about the older ones you just wanted to make his art and that pissed people off I made a whole video about that but personally those weren't really my top priorities I just wanted something new I didn't want another beat for beat repeat of the original trilogy I wanted Star Wars to surprise me they kind of did do some of that though they kind of did yeah there's a bunch of stuff they redid so not sure he's getting that from like I guess he's gonna argue that they may have copied a few things but they had it end differently so that's I mean abject robbery surprising doesn't mean it's good yeah I don't think they appreciate that concept cuz they it's rare that we get told why it's good it's just yeah but it's different to expand the scope of what a Star Wars movie could be and also of course I wanted a rip-roaring good time that is exactly what I got wait for you hey so it looks like we're gonna begin the actual arguments now you guys ready this is gonna actually involve references to the film it is where it's gonna get interesting ready you're gonna you're gonna piss everyone off we keep you see but yes that is exactly what I got wait for the opening scene I could tell something was unique about this movie the movie begins with a space battle that is seriously one of the best space battles in ok please give me a reason go on go on they're serious but near the end it does something amazing in Star Wars we've seen a lot of battles and in those battles between a lot of random rebel pilots died but I've never really cared about them no disrespect you didn't care about poor kids I guess I see I guess you didn't care about Biggs wait wait why would you care about the rebels that died in the last Jedi like they're about us equally not as developed like just because you don't know their names the history of how they even came to be in the positions they are doesn't mean you shouldn't care about them sir what is wrong with you is it because they're women that you don't care about them Jesus really cared about them no disrespect to bigs and Porkins but they were never really how dare you find a spot hang on he said they would never really characters how are these guys characters exactly yeah exactly this is page Tico and I know that because everybody wanted her to be in Rosa's place because she's more attractive that is because because that is optimist that is it's a weird just saying it's your reason because it's race it's ROS sister it's not gonna be her character that she was Rosa's sister I wouldn't roses hotter sister light on page Tico and for two minutes she becomes the star of the movie pages desperate attempts to that's why I'm sorry okay how exactly do you learn about a character from this selection she's just trying to activate a remote that's it yeah I don't understand it like give me give me something here come on to drop the bomb this is more suspenseful and more emotional than anything and you keep saying that that's what it is no references at all seen since Luke's trench run and she's just saying it look it's all it's all opinion and we're not gonna get anything about the looks of things but yeah I'm surprised cuz I was just confused from the get-go watching the scene I remember being so thrown out by the bombers in general I was just like what in the hell are these things and then like how they dropped and how the tie fires just allow the last bomber to destroy the dread door instead of destroying it I was so confused cuz you know you could get a triple killer barbers with half a TIE fighter so is a significant design flaw in a bombers very significant there's several significant design flaws but which one you were thinking about Matt I don't know like the fact that it's very easy to destroy yeah lovely one I like the the floor where pretty much any bomber that loses its payload is pretty much gonna kill itself because by the time the first bomb hits the last bomb is still in the [ __ ] chamber so they just chain up and destroy it anyway yeah how slow they are is hilarious the size and like lack of shielding or armor it's it's just a bizarre design and from what we see in the actual film she's like why would anyone pay to make these things the fact that it takes like a hundred bombs to do what to y-wing bombs could do just as easily in the OT and we saw in rogue one the y-wings could disabled temporarily the Star Destroyers when let me see it from the ion cannon in in Episode five and it's like wouldn't that I've just been just as good you just disable the the Dreadnought and get out if that was your only goal was to get out instead you sacrifice like half your team in finish they destroy it it's just so many conflicts in your head just thinking about why the hell was this a sort of it's like I'll just ignore it enjoy the emotional bombers that are so useless they could have just had one of them jumping a lot bigger right through the dread-nots oh and those those bombs of all those red light media highlighted it's like why wouldn't you just fire them like missiles if they're that good that they just they just damage on impacts like I mean the Ty fires had trouble shooting the incredibly slow-moving deployment of them so you've probably get away with just shooting them I think but it's shot I thought holy [ __ ] I have never seen this in a Star Wars movie before I thought he bleeped his way words maybe missed them or I guess I don't know before and I've noticed a lot of people don't want ever seen he clearly referenced the prequels I'm confused things in their Star Wars and I think that's kind of a bummer one of the reasons I love the Empire Strikes Back is that it's constantly surprising the characters grow in Chains it shows us amazing new planets and creatures it changes our conception of Star Wars and I'm just waiting just a movie where it opens up it stalls episode 9 it's just a guy getting some coffee and like just just a just a normal last place in real life and then he does his taxes and then it ends it's like that opened up what we consider to be a Star Wars movie someone in the chat said did he just swear it his parents sitting great across rooms still well yeah fair enough anything about Return of the Jedi is how it doesn't really do that it mostly gives us a lot of things we've seen before like a Death Star our Tatooine it's big new additions to the mythos are a forest and the revelation that stormtrooper helmets can be played as drums okay we do in the hole see revenge that everything sucks compares a lost Jedi and that's why is good I'm just like you know it I would never concede the return the Jedi is worse than last year day nor the prequels so I but apparently added nothing new his like requirements here are weather annoy added something new it's just like does it is there anything more than that like is it more complicated than that or is it just that [ __ ] did I significantly better than any of the films any of the newer films well I mean I agree with that but apparently he he doesn't like it cuz all it added was that you can drum stolen triplets return of the Return of the King add to anything you or the red lines I don't get her lunch I don't get how it works why does it have to add something to be good and why is that the timin or a fiddler it's good cool but the last job isn't content to recycle Star Wars Greatest Hits and just revisit old planets and reveal them everyone is related to someone that we've met before it didn't have to be the shoes related to somebody we know it just needs to be something that makes sense I mean they're gonna answer a question instead of just nobody and she's just super powerful because we've reestablished how the force works now and that is if you're a a broom boy in some area you'll also be as powerful as Rey as long as you why why why why do you have to make it about this instead of talking about what actually happens you know like explaining where Snoke came from it wouldn't matter if Snoke was just some janitor on a spaceship we would be lucky I don't care where he came from but his history literally makes the story or breaks it it's like if you just told us early on if he was Palpatine's apprentice this whole time we'd be like well where the hell was he and there's like okay no he's not that he's uh he's palestine's boss you're like well where the hell was he okay he's he's a he was a competitor to Palpatine the perhaps he nearly killed and he went into the shadows he's not Darth Plagueis though he'd be like okay so he came back once Palpatine was dead and it's like these things just just they connect the story they actually bridge the gap and why do you why do we need to know is cousin Snoke did everything and it's like why do we know about Rey it's like well if we don't find out why she has so much power it kind of makes it really hard to be invested in it with the whole kills everything first try sort of [ __ ] yeah we don't know the history between the characters like we just don't really care about them like the way Snoke like the reason why Snoke is becoming like the biggest powerful entity in the galaxy we don't really know why or how it's like he said bridging the gap kind of okay explained I'm say it is interesting to me that he has like this idea of bridging the gap he actually criticized TFA for it but then it simultaneously doesn't give a [ __ ] about who or what Snoke is like that seems to be a conflict to me but there we are it has a story to tell and a mythology to expand I love that this movie finally shows us how the 1% live in this galaxy it finally has someone used the force to switch on a lightsaber if finally gives us an idea of what obi-wan meant when he said wow he's arguing what that the lightning from Yoda explains what obi-wan was talking about when he said I'll become more powerful and you could possibly imagine even though that's what the force ghosts were that that was him becoming more than just human that was the point I just replay a few guys if you didn't quite get it lightsaber if finally gives us an idea of what obi-wan meant when he said who strike me down I shall become more powerful than one possibly imagine you guys get that you follow it along I still don't get it so just to clarify by the way the 1% the upper echelon of class in Star Wars wouldn't that just be like the people in Naboo who were like royalty or the people like Palpatine was the 1% surely the Jedi are kind of up there that was there was a class system going on we saw the slaves we saw we know classes already existed lat wouldn't land or technically count that's one word 1% I suppose I guess it's different for every planets they're all have different ecosystems or whatever but it is interesting by the way because I think some people in chat picking up on it the fact you referred to them as the 1% it's almost like mmm seen a bit of a drip feed of politics today I will see if he mentions that again but yeah I like the way he slips that in though like by the way you know this thing that people have a huge problem with Yoda [ __ ] firing lightning it actually makes complete sense because well obi-wan was referring to it's like he was referring to that why wouldn't he have used it that sounds just stop it stop it it gives us great new possibility like natural extent all of the things that he like are very like irrelevant things I don't really care if star wars like show that 1% side like just yeah like we film we want to see character LEDs arguments not [ __ ] they showed how that what beset lives like it's very small it's the very small good thing I guess if you're I guess he's been feeling this so bad you have to like grass so hard to the smallest things that are you can interpret it's good like why wouldn't want to talk about he's gonna talk about the characters I assume he's just getting out the small things maybe that's that's what we're doing right now um as as for force or Skype chat I don't necessarily have a huge issue with it but like it is you know like it's mostly fine it's just like it's obviously an excuse to get them to speak to each other the protagonist and antagonist it's just that obviously apparently it takes an incredibly powerful force to be able to do it and Snoke was obviously given that intro which is why we kind of again what it is history so that slots in nice and easy instead of just being like oh he was super powerful more powerful than Palpatine also he's dead by hims like oh okay I was interesting and she's of what we've seen before and speaking of the force no other movie explains it as well as Luke does here at Empire as has the definitive explanation of the force I've been silent because it's like anyone on earth can be as dumb as Patrick Williams I don't think there's I mean well it's batching an email Jonah Hill once wrote describing a drum Street men and black crossover intellectual maestro Jonah Hill to quote Jonah Hill yeah this took a ted-like alright rad powerful I want to bring up something that doesn't get missed that rolled that back I've missed that clean and rabbit way but an email Jonah Hill once wrote describing a drum Street men and black crossover it's clean and rad and powerful I want to bring up something clearly rad and powerful like my first so never gonna gonna require some qualification there mister mister Patrice cuz I don't really follow I think that doesn't get talked about enough Star Wars has always been weird remember the cantina scene the hell said stalls wasn't weird yeah yeah is that is that like the last Jedi doesn't make any sense and then he responds Star Wars has always been weird it's like that's not not the argument remember figure and Dan and the modal nodes remember how there's a [ __ ] devil in there just chilling at the bar and don't swear to your parents yeah just realize like Yoda should be casting lightning that's ridiculous that he goes there with a [ __ ] devil in the cantina a one identical creature in the trash compactor think he said that as if people have forgotten he's like do you guys remember the episode forward you know the old one not how many people have seen it it's the one we see it's like he expects us to either be like oh yeah the last Jedi doesn't suck because of that or he expects us to say oh yeah Star Wars sucks because there's a devil a second and a half like it's like you're furious at the film and then he takes you to watch episode 4 you see the scene with the tentacle then you go oh the last gen I was actually very good right completely automate has anyone ever made the argument that the last Jedi is bad because it's got weird [ __ ] in it yeah this table where he's coming from with this good [ __ ] and last time I lives up to that legacy in Caliphate Luke okay to be fair to be fair there was one person who did say that the last Jedi was bad because there's some weird [ __ ] oh you don't want to be an exception you do not want to be caught arguing for the the milk monster that's not a great position to have but go for a screen to pause on good go for it and the last time I it lives up to that legacy the giant alien Cala thing that Luke milks is one of my favorite [Laughter] [Music] [Laughter] got pores you got the precious crystal fox boys you got those little horse llama all right Patrick let's we'll take you seriously to that legacy the giant alien Cala thing that Luke milks is one of my [Laughter] [Music] all of Star Wars is a saga the alien elephant titties are the favorite wow that's just that can you get okay go on it has to be a punchline of a joke like you can't seriously freaking say this oh this is one of my favorite ish ins to this whole series if you don't like it no offense but you have boring tastes and I don't you can't be serious Patrick you can this is insane look you know it's one thing to say like ah anyone who likes the last Jedi needs to be like killed or or is stupid it's like obvious hyperbolic he's actually arguing that if you don't like the alien elephant boobs then you're you have bad taste a boring taste sorry he didn't even try he's just like oh you suck did your parents block their access of pornhub so you have a lead this movie to vent like amazing he's just gonna skip the argument just go straight to you look if you don't get it you're boring it's like okay we're in taste and I don't want to be friends with you okay you know I I genuinely thought like okay maybe we're laughing too early maybe he's gonna be like you see this is what these these haters would say but no he's just going with it dude he just said the fish nuns and the Hellmouth as like defenses for the movies all David Lynch and those crazy things hanging out on candlelight nobody nobody [ __ ] couple bed took that it had to buy it was bizarre it was like why is why is there an opera singing chunky alien thing you remember the one that was putting coins in bb8 it was like super CGI it ever ever just watching the hill just like ooh this is like a little gremlin looking thing which was actually voiced by Mark Hamill as far as I know it's just a nice nice fact about it but yeah most and I'm saying this obviously not everyone but most people were citing the prequels when they came to this scene they were like this is very prequel ish and it was probably because of how much CGI was in it even though the prequels are all CGI I'm just saying maybe you need to lay off that SOI T buddy amen it's giving him great taste that I am jealous of good don't you wanna live in a world where you could enjoy all of these horrible things we got the fish nuns and a Hellmouth for the movies already Lynch and those crazy things hanging out on canto bite oh yeah canto bite you know that section of the movie that people hate where they say nothing happens it should just be no use a friend can to play so I swear I might actually lose my mind this is interesting right so when when H bombing I defended Dark Souls to a lot of people noted that he chose some really bad arguments instead of the actual strengths of the film it would be like saying game sorry I cereal is great because it can power your car it can act as a shield from the Sun if you pour it on yourself you're like what do you know that's not why cereals good it's like why you make these items so if you're gonna defend the last Jedi there are several things that I personally would pick strategically at canto bite and alien boobie monster not high on the list in fact I would argue they're pretty much on the bottom so what do you doing Patrick what are you doing called me the contrarian Jesus I think he's arguing for this should I like like an oblate given that Yahoo was like [ __ ] talking rags and he was like my uncle's told me no one cares so your uncle said like even that guy was like ya can't abide sucks it's like loads of people concede it's like yeah counted by with che okay fine fine we're moving on we're gonna talk about the better side I cannot see I just hope he does I mean we're about to find out just be entirely cut out of the movie I could spend several minutes here talking about how it's important to him see he oppressed people in the galaxy and the hope that the resistance symbol inspires yeah yeah yeah the hope the hope that they inspire where they've been in power for the past 30 years if you pay attention to the actual film as if as if the institution of the Republic did anything for these people except actually encourage the activity the idea that the resistance were the ones that are gonna save them where they didn't do [ __ ] for the past three decades watch the film and you'll actually understand why it doesn't matter we actually we could believe that the first order might be the ones that save these people we don't actually know if canto bytes are subservient to the first order we actually get told they sell to both the bad guys and the good guys did anyone watch this film when they decided to defend it like this is what I get about the reference is I'm like you're inventing the film this is not what happened you're insane rant over Terry Crews I could spend several reasons saying why it's you know a thing but then you know I'm just not gonna do that I'm just gonna talk about other things time he says something stupid just show Terry Crews it's eerie that's a counter-argument oh wait no wait that's not it if you retweet it I really want to see it but it's not sure one other one right I'll retweet it someone sent me a picture of South Park when you watch the milking scene in Star Wars the last Jedi and they just photoshopped Patrick Williams face unto to south parking years the guy with the mustache you know or he was jacking off there's computer and it's just everywhere Oh Randy yeah IRA knew you two did it if you want to see it alright well I usually don't go on Twitter until the end of streams because I try and take all the notifications orde step yeah how would we tweet it but I'm banned from Twitter for weeks oh oh yeah I don't know if you want to mention that to these the people in the stream while you care yes basically I had some jokes on Twitter that were very obviously jokes and I said a word that people didn't like which wasn't even bad it was read hard and it's bad so that dude well people people wanted to see the serial key well anyway you know because of that I can no longer use Twitter for a week because Twitter banned me yet wolf is off Twitter pedal year without a week without a news sorry he's not ignoring you guys he's been banned actually you still get PM's don't you yeah I can still DM people but it's like well Who am I gonna do mmm everyone I talked to I talked to one discord all right then let's let's continue the galaxy and the hope that the resistance symbol inspires I could talk about how the failures you imagine how much you would hate the resistance you'd be like you guys have let us suffer for decades under your rule we thought things would change when you took down the Empire but you did nothing I want to see that movie let's see that movie by the way seven minutes in and I cannot believe I say this but Jared's reviewed last time makes more sense including yeah the detail that ray killed HOD you know put that in there simple inspires I could talk about how the failures here caused by Poe and Finn or essential teaching moments in both it didn't know it was the robot the robot caught BBA in the box it wasn't their fault go on go on this is what I mean though he revises the scenes to match a narrative it's really annoying simple inspires I could talk about how the failures here caused by Poe and Finn or essential teaching moments in both of their arcs but what I really want to mention are three very important things number one a drunk goblin puts coins in bb-8 and that rules Dewey should we comment on that should we even comment on that like it's almost as strong as his elephant boobie argument I'd say but sure let's see the next one I'm sorry think this might actually be a troll video like there is a good chance yes video video because he's not yeah if this is not a troll video this is insane I can't believe you would make these arguments like even the worst last Jedi defenders have made better arguments even that guy debated the first time the first guy we ever debated more maybe he had better he did yeah maybe and again maybe Oni Oni suggesting maybe Patrick realized that there was quite a bit of let's say controversy in covering Star Wars and so he was like I'll make this video and you know it'll be the end oh like he's already made two so he's like let's just throw a third one on and I'll actually deliberately give it you know weak arguments so it'll get covered more and generate you know like that that could be a motivation for it because if we go further and we still like the augers get even worse like I'm starting to wonder if he actually is just trying to [ __ ] with us yeah go on cuz I have seen what on Twitter he when you post this on Twitter a lot of people were celebrating how well argued it was like people who on the side of the last chat I didn't already know so that's that's the thing I don't know if this is parody but there's a lot of evidence stacking up against at this point number one a drunk Goblin puts coins in bb8 and that rules number two it is now cannon that Maz Kanata has had sex with justin theroux number three watching rich people get their [ __ ] destroyed is one of the purest pleasures in all of cinema and if you can't appreciate that I feel sorry for you whoo so let's let's listen to that again and let's not say anything over it because this that's a very interesting statement one puts coins in bb8 and that rules number two it is now cannon that Maz Kanata has had sex with Justin Theroux number three watching rich people get their [ __ ] destroyed is one of the purest pleasures in all of cinema and if you so to clarify if you don't gain pleasure from watching rich people have their things destroyed he feels sorry for you skip to the end of the video just to see if he's like this was all joke because if that's the case not really much point responded to the res like that's a bit like whoa dude like if you want people to take this seriously it's like hmm even if it's a joke even if he said that it's a joke there's so many people that take it seriously I know of course I don't think this is a joke I think this is it's not too far away from his plotholes video in terms of argumentation he's really bad at it okay let's get serious here for a long time now all of it was a joke now we're serious okay for a long time now I've had a beef with the original trilogy see Return of the Jedi reveals that Luke and Leia are twins which makes Leia Darth Vader's daughter and yet she seems to have zero connection to the force and she gets zero closure with her father wait you are fine with Rey having massive amounts of power without any kind of source but you're not okay with lair lacking a lot of power despite having a fair source seems kind of inconsistent to me why why he would spend so much time just saying a whole bunch of like the insane [ __ ] the reason why it doesn't bother is the reason why doesn't bother me wolf and several others about Leia is because she hasn't been trained she hasn't unlocked the potential if you will like Luke does in his trilogy like Luke was just like Leia well this is the thing we are annoyed at Rey because she has unlocked a massive amount of power we're like how did you do that with no training no one telling you anything no one exploring anything was like okay but with Leia we're like Oh laya could be trained lair could be explained to how it all works she could have him I went on take of us so it's interesting too because it's like that's our issue and he's looking at it in the reverse way he's like yeah ray is gray that's fine that makes sense but Leia where's her moment with the force that's like well why would she have him on with the force she hasn't besides she does have like a little little inkling she contacts Luke through the force in Empire and you get it in the last Jedi don't really she's in a coma she felt Han die through that these things I'm curious if he's gonna add to this because this is him being serious now if you remember she seems to have zero connection to the force and she gets zero closure with her father Yoda says there is another but then she doesn't get to do anything cuz he was referred to stall kill it God do you understand anyway this is a long way of saying that the much-maligned scene where Leia uses the force to pull herself back into the ship thrilled me because in wars that she did not spend the last 30 years trapped in amber a [ __ ] course she can use the force she said God damns it's not it's okay that she could use the force it goes a bit further when she's doing something that not even Yoda should be able to do you know it just occurred to me that he might have thrown in that that segment where he just said a bunch of insane [ __ ] just for us I mean I don't know why he would put that at the beginning it's well I guess to try and get us off the video maybe I mean I appreciate it if he literally did it just to get us to laugh because I mean okay you feel Boyd that Jared yes this argument before by the way that people are annoyed that layer didn't do enough with the force in the OT and that she didn't have closure with their father she you know like those are things that really weren't developed so they didn't have payoffs like you you know there's a story to be had there I suppose but stranges let's just not to focus at all and it doesn't really have anything she's got her own [ __ ] going on like is what I would say but then also to add to the whole like that's what makes that Seton so good is that we see her using the forces like we could have had any other way of doing that we did we didn't need Mary Poppins that there was not the requirement and oh these debates constantly about whether or not she should have survived it it's just like can we just drop it of course she shouldn't have survived it guy water which leads me to another thing I love about this movie it directly doesn't mean that she can't she doesn't need training because both Anakin and Luke did that's the thing that people tend to really look past like a decayed The Prodigy the one with the most midi-chlorians he still needed training for like two decades and that's a lot of training by the way it's the law and you're still training under the Emperor we could assume so yeah layer should just be that powerful this is the problem this is the exact problem with Rey and you know it's even worse array because she has no relation at least if she was a Skywalker we could be like okay guess she somehow managed to tap into Luke's power without training the you know that would still be kind of an issue but not even that she's a god damn sky water which leads me to another thing I love about this movie it directly addressed something that I've thought about for years but maybe the Jedi kind of suck what like maybe they're elitist monk like rules where they bury all their emotions yeah I think we all wrong hasn't that been exploited at prequels I thought that was the point of the prequels of the Jedi we're we're bloated and they had rules that they didn't really appreciate from my point of view the Jedi are you yeah like that's kind of big brother trilogy is like 12 years ago and you know that this is a complicated subject but it's like yeah the prequels of the story of how the Jedi essentially threw through their own you could you could argue like like so it was sort of apathy like they're so comfortable in their position that the you know there's a snake in the rows right in front of them but see where he's going with this I suppose what like maybe they're elitist monk like rules where they bury all their emotions aren't especially healthy and it who the [ __ ] said they would know whether I was healthy like no I don't think anybody interpreted it as healthy it has been explored in many many Star Wars stories not just a prequels but the expanded universe as well boats are exploited Republic under the impression like you think Luke was emotionless in the OT he would go directly against all the teachings of the Jedi in terms of maintaining no emotional attachments kind of I mean I don't even watch the prequels like this is strange that he's using the prequels to defend the last Jedi as well those rules led Anakin Skywalker to freaking out and murdering a bunch of kids and becoming Darby came out as one yeah if let's just believe that would go I suppose because he's pretty much on our team for the how it's like ridiculous but you know we know that Luke tried to start a new tonight order and then pretty much the same thing happened all over again so when Luke's yeah it'll be different it cuz you know you've got an actual Sith Lord who's orchestrated the destruction of the entire Senate he is is and then you've got Luke for some reason tried to murder is his sister and best friend's son in his sleep and then he decided in turn do you remember how that goes he wakes up he then locks swords with Luke and pulls the roof down on him Luke gets knocked out kylo then kills every student other than the Knights of Ren and then leaves with them and Luke wakes up to the aftermath how insane is that the Kyla was asleep he woke up to this guy trying to kill him who was supposed to be his teacher and then decides I'm gonna kill everyone here and not Luke by the way he just forgets about Luke is like it doesn't make any sense at all but it's so quick people don't get think about he's just viciously bullied they were just making fun of him because he's so crap compared to Han Solo who's like epic as [ __ ] they're like oh my god like why used to do we but he's like show at all thing is your dad your dad killed a Death Star what have you done I'll make a du Death Star will be bigger cuz you just have like a snow just walks in between the time the Luke's under the rubble and gets out of it he's like you should kill all of them he's like yeah sure I don't know who you are seems about right yes say these same exact stories the prequels really I don't can't you just stop before they ruin things some [ __ ] yeah wait way to generalize it Luke says that the Jedi gave rise to Palpatine and they were the ones that trained Vader which is the kind of [ __ ] that really bugged me the folks I was like yeah just ignore the parts where the Jedi were the ones that stopped him you know you are that guy you were the Jedi that brought peace back the less ignore that part let's ignore the fact that all the Jedi were betrayed and backstabs across the prequels yeah that's when they tried to prevent the rise of the Sith let's ignore that too let's just say that the Jedi caused it someone said that kylo Ren is a school she were I mean it's the exact same storyline people have actually compared him to that like this so basically it's like oh so kylo Ren killed all the people because they didn't have lightsaber control Oh got it some of you guys are alright don't come into the Jedi Temple tomorrow you that Luke is gonna try and kill it that night today they're in the theater applauding and shouting yes thank you Bowie let's slow down a little bit because that's not exactly what's happening here despite what Luke says at the beginning the movie doesn't actually think the Jedi should end after all at the end after Luke has learned and grown he straight-up says I will not be the last Jedi that doesn't mean that he supports the idea of the Jedi should continue he just points out the fact that he's not the last one but he's besides the fact that yet the the idea of the Jedi had broken is terrible from Luke's perspective doesn't even make sense like one of my issues with Luke's character in the film the movie doesn't want it I'd like to end it wants them to evolve this whole movie is about moving on from the past I like the force awakens and I think it does a great job introducing interesting new characters but the movie is obsessed with the past it brings back the original status quo and the original conflict and it's structured around force awakens kind of did that but the last Jedi have obliterated them again quote-unquote you know they've destroyed their entire army of Star Destroyers and ripped the the walls are called to supremacy in half so like we don't even know if that's actually gonna have an effect on the first-order I guess we'll find out in the next episode if that actually matters or if they just have another fleet of stardestroyers cuz but yeah I would I would blame the force awakens' for rese resetting the status quo more so than the last Jedi the last Jedi did new things guys we can appreciate that story because we've seen before and full of images we've seen before but the last Jedi it moves forward maybe he was saying that that is the case is he saying that the last Jedi is progressive well he's saying he moves [Music] any-any did he did mention that they did stick it to the 1% don't forget that I'm going to spend 10 minutes explaining how immaculately crafted the character arcs are because that's all covered in a great video on the channel just right I was gonna say wolf how you don't reacting let's just let's just hear that again let's hear that again alright I'm not going to spend 10 minutes explaining how immaculately crafted the character arcs are because that's all covered in a great video on the channel just right so to clarify if you Patrick since you were completely unaware one of just rights points we're about Poe and how he refuses to learn and how hold o keeping the information from him was due to the fact that she couldn't trust him we had a debate with him and I got we gotten to the point of being silent when we actually explained how it doesn't make any sense at all for her to hold that information so maybe that video isn't as well-crafted as most would think you know what we should cover that at some points we never actually did we covered his um his video explaining reader-response Theory but we never actually did that one we could we could put that on the list ya know be good no no I've seen it but I've never watched it on like a stream or anything but yeah it's the the true reasoning behind this by the way is that they promote each other's videos I don't think they actually give a [ __ ] really it's more about you scratch my back I'll scratch yours because if you remember just right promoted his video on plotholes what are you doing wolf well oh that's what you try to get I mean you probably you just you could leave it's okay I think most people this tree probably seen that anyway if you haven't looked for the just right debate on on dishonored walls channel but yeah the the the biggest thing with just right was that he told us was that he kind of regrets making his Hobbit series because he didn't want to take anyone's enjoyment of the films out of them which is kind of a sad sort of regression of his channel being that he wanted to celebrate good writing and criticise bad writing now he only wants to celebrate good writing and proper bad writing even if it's bad like it's it doesn't really care as long as it maybe people feel stuff so it is interesting that this has come full circle now cuz he was promoting Patrick and now Patrick Sparrow in him I guess that's just a a back and forth one year friends I guess yeah yeah we talk to each other Patrick wall though okay just write this at least he had the balls to come on and talk to us Patrick is outright admitted on his Twitter account that he will not talk to people that he doesn't have respect for yeah then there's developed into like people he agrees with basically and that's literally just outright admitted that he lives in an echo chamber I mean that's the thing there are some people a some people like like are okay with that they'll be like yeah that's defendable that's fine it's just like well it's not gonna give you a very broad view of media ever it did say that if you didn't like the tittie monster scene we can't be friends anymore yeah you still invited Patrick to come and watch bad video essays with us on this on this on this channel we'll we'll do it with you it'll be fun movie beautifully weaves together arcs for a thin pole Luke and kylo Ren and what's they all I'm sorry what the hell was kylos walk I have a good guy don't have a bad guy a good guy was a bad night like interesting he's just he doesn't know I nobody has any idea what Kyle is doing Kyle Oh certainly doesn't yeah it's embarrassing because you know taking off is sure a lot of people cite the fact that if he had actually like left the first order or you know done his own thing become a alone world he'd be like oh that could be interesting I wonder where's you know it's like no he just literally as soon as ray leaves is the de facto empire again and just starts assaulting half because why nice walrein love it it's like as if they [ __ ] and how many movies can even have extremely detailed and meaningful five different arcs in two hours like it's it's did you'd have to be pretty [ __ ] impressive be able to nail that and it's like the it's not that's not what happens in this film it's just the ring is I'm one film would you say or do you say across the three well I count the three is one film anyway oh well yeah in that case it extended that does have quite a few hours on the last you know infinity war you got Iron Man I would say is definitely strong one people would like well who else would you say like fan OHS would be too because a lot of characters are there right and I'm not saying it's a bad thing because I don't think you can have like you know you say give everyone enough give all 40 characters Hawk no please what I'm trying to argue is it's very [ __ ] difficult to have five meaningful character arcs in one movie you can do it it's just that you reason the last yet I was one of the films that did that doe oh oh I got one the gray there's six meaningful character arcs well there you go like I said video coming soon everyone they go and he'll peruse get it throw my plugin yeah is your video gonna be if you guys still like the gray you have bad taste and I don't have be friends with you learn from failure and move on from the past finally all tying together right at the moment when Hall doe tears a Star Destroyer howl Bow Wow Admiral hailed uh-oh recent cinema and if you're too hung up on the made-up science in this [ __ ] wait did I skip over something there learn from failure and move on from the past finally all tying together right at the moment when Hall doe tears a Star Destroyer in half in one of these straight-up coolest moments and recent of cinema and if you're too hung up on the made-up science and this fictional world of space wizards to enjoy that then I weep for you because we sorry it ruins the stakes of all of the pathways bowels do you guys remember being like on the edge II see when they're trying to survive the onslaught of the Death Star in Episode six while they try and get rid of the shield generator and you're like come on do it and they was on the edge of my seat when when they started like pulling away from the Death Star when they realized the shield wasn't down and then they came face to face with the fleet behind them yeah and then the Death Star starts shooting up all their ships and it could do it in like only a minute instead of an hour it's literally like one of the moments of just like Jesus Christ the good guys are about to be obliterated like because they've just been trapped and the Death Star's active and then the shield goes down and then the music Rises that they all [ __ ] go inside the Death Star and it's abacus [ __ ] and it's just like when you watch that back now you'll be like why isn't the x-wing just [ __ ] hyperdrive why is the Millennium Falcon just hyper drive yeah one of the biggest questions that I have like his hyper hyperspace hyperdrive like bombing a thing apparently we'll see some people like you needed that you needed a massive ship and it's like well the rad has had the raddest has similar it's the biggest of the capital ships I believe in history of the Star Wars Episode but they still had those capital ships in Episode six somewhat of the Chad sorry just baby laugh really hard someone said how does this mother not beat him oh god they're even at this video like what was the point of them I guess they're just a gag that's probably it but yeah that's that's he's saying like oh I feel sorry for you if you can't you know get over the science part of it and I'd be like normally it would be fine if this was the only movie in the [ __ ] series but unfortunately it ruins the stakes in the old one if I take this one seriously which you can [ __ ] guarantee I will be logic it's the consistency between the films that we have issues with not necessarily the science of it yeah it's not I can I can believe it the you can hyperspace into something and it destroys it it's just the the other episodes are relying on the idea that that's not a thing so yes you've ruined that like Who am I gonna believe the the well it's not even the six you can count force awakens and rogue one and solo in the collection of films that did not [ __ ] that up all those films all the last Jedi whose continuity you're gonna follow it's like I'm gonna go ahead and follow the good ones if you don't mind one more time this is a movie about space wizards intended for children but the point and that's why you've spent so long explaining why you adore this film and it's got some of the best cinematic experiences in recent memory he does kind of imply that he's a child so what I was gonna say that I don't know if that's a low blow or not is that it is he that was nobody's trying to say is he like I love this and I think it is for children therefore I like like I don't know and the space Wizards argument as sorry people getting frustrated it doesn't mean anything it doesn't [ __ ] mean anything drop it no y-you think it helps you this is a movie about the moving forward it is not as some people believe about burning the past are killing the past good luck arguing that was isn't that the definition of like moving forward like I mean you could argue that yeah get rid of the past to move forward but you know this film shits on the OT more so than any other Star Wars film ever did that's why it's like wow they really hated the past and they yeah because a lot of people cite a prequel it really said you know make the past you have to yeah and as I said they're either youtubers who promoted that they were like that's an interesting philosophy that if you want to move forward in life you do actually sort of cut the past on your life you kill it it's like with Star Wars kylo Ren while probably the best new Star Wars character since Yoda people keep saying that also wait why is he forget next to just the past or killing the past or letting the past die kylo Ren Wow probably the best new Star Wars character since Yoda other than of course is it okay well yes he knows that Dexter well no that's not joke cuz Dexter is the best character in the Star Wars Expanded Universe I'm just saying oh we need a dip spear a Star Wars story but there's a lot of people I hate everything is one of the people who says that kylo is the best character across the saga it blows my mind how you do you know easy it would be for me and wolf to just write a story where there's a character who just keeps doing things they're just good and bad things and they just keep doing things and the audience is like wow I wonder what their actual motivations are their goals are what they what they value and that's how you write the best character apparently when you have nothing to go on when they're just insane they just do things people like so interesting you know I was there generating the character themselves they're like other conflicted because of this this and they're doing this because of this this it's like we didn't even get the scene where Luke tried to kill kylo and people were saying the kylo was the best character in saga from force awakens which again we've got barely anything to go on we really have nothing to go on with kylo he's just crazy he does bad and good things all the time he was like he's the best character under utilities not saying much he's like a psychopath at the end of force awakens like trying to destroy everything kill everyone just by even with the wound and then like throughout the last year I he's like so I guess I am kind of a monster but did you know that that's cuz it's Luke and it's like why are you you were like a Imperial dreadnought man being like I would kill everybody who opposed the you know you're like you know I may be a bad guy but Luke's a good guy he's so layered he's so complicated it's like sure fine yeah they're pointing out he's pretty much just a really bad knockoff of Jason solo from the books I don't really know much about Jason solo yeah I've definitely heard that before as well it's but let me ask you this is he gonna be a good guy or a bad guy in the ninth episode when it starts well bad guy the assumption would be bad guy but if it started with him basically being outside of the the first order and then he contacts Rey and says we need to stop them and then she's like why should I trust you I would just immediately be like yeah I guess he could do that he just flip-flops all the time so just be careful Rey if you defeat the first dollar with him they will fight together if he ends up being a good guy it'll be because you know glom as I explained in my series he's gonna be Stokes brother he's gonna come in and be like you killed my brother and that'll be his character you'd be like I can move planets with my hand and it'd be like whoa new force powers just crushes it like I could Infinity Gauntlet say to a guy about it makes sense or maybe dead space 3 and they'll have to fight an evil tentacle Moon they have to throw it into the black hole like it's so low come on guys yeah all I couldn't have been the end of all people are gonna say about all people gonna say about Kyllo is the super conflicted and it's so interesting to watch him deal with all the conflict and you're just like I was I was absolutely in the audience of force awakens that told myself when he killed Han Solo that he was definitively the bad guy you know I was like ah he's decided and then this film it was like no he hasn't he's still a good guy oh and then the end of this film is like no he's the bad guy stuff he's decided like wonder if there's an episode 9 to make him sympathetic cuz this is the thing they keep running out of times to make the audience go oh I guess he is a good guy Jeremiah Vader was basically just strict evil right up until you know Luke just kept [ __ ] pushing he was like finally did a good deed it's like kylo I don't even know what what they what they're going for I swear to God if they redeem him at the end of episode 9 that they're like he's actually the good guy and like Rey dies to save him or something I really Oh God marry do maz kanata's gonna die for him we'll be like oh my god Maz I know how did you get here why you I forgot which what are you a selfish entitled piece of [ __ ] and while the wait what I'm assuming that was about kylo other than Dexter gesture of course is a selfish entitled piece of [ __ ] presents his point of view it does not endorse it one of the weirder aspect of the backlash to blast Jedi has been how many people take kylo ren's side claiming the movie really does want to kill the past and in the conflicting stories about that night in the Jedi training camp they believe him not Luke the movie is not saying well no they give us an answer at the end they you know it's it's Luke's side of the story then kylos and then we get the truth you know where it's it's a 50/50 thing he's like saying that um you know kylo ren's the most interesting and then he's like well I don't get why people are taking his side it's like I see I don't know Luke decided to destroy everything that was built up for him and then he decided to become a psychopathic murderer and then kylo Ren was given like some source reason it's such a mess dude cuz he look you just you saw the beginning you go innocent guy training to be Jedi his master betrays him you're like oh wow I you know that that gets my sympathy and I'm just like so he kills all the students see like what and then he becomes the new Vader he like why it's why I let you like but then he decides that he might be good and you're like okay but then he kills his dad like okay then you're like but then he decides he might be good you're like what I'm not following and then he decides to kill his master of the evil guys like oh so he's a good guy then he decides to kill the good guys like that's why I want to see episode 9 cuz we will have the answers because it will end like the story will be well who knows maybe they'll bate a sequel trilogy if you know what I mean by that like three movies to be yeah but I don't get it I just don't [ __ ] get it kylo is confusing to be just like it I think the biggest problem I have with him is the same as advocate where the event that makes him evil does not explain the event of murdering innocent people in scores immediate he's a lot of people cite the fact that Anakin killed the Tusken Raiders kids and like that's like a like a tell for I just think there's a difference between like massacring a village full of people who are essentially like I don't know they capture and torture people regularly right versus what looked to be what like five year olds they're all hiding in a room like so you know for me it's difficult to accept that but then you've also got the kylo immerse like yeah I don't understand and it's like why are we in this position well because they gave us three flashbacks all of which were the same moment just told from slightly different perspective like instead of actually taking some time to sort of show the progression why did kylo to an evil and why did that matter who was he before then what did Luke see like nah nah none of those around said you have stuff to think it up yourself I mean at least fan fiction writers have lots of work to do yeah they actually do research they could be the ones that explain all this we should end the Jedi it's saying we should take some of their lessons but maybe not the dogmatic interpretation of their way of life no kind of like the OT kind of like how the OT was like Luke is pretty much a Jedi but the New Jedi cuz he clearly had emotional attachments to the point trying to save Vader against Yoda and obi-wan swishes kind of like how he explored this already kind of like how the prequels showed the bad side of the dogmatic nature of the Jedi kind of like how the last Jedi doesn't make sense in its message anyway but go on I mean guys Yoda shows up and straight up states the theme the greatest teacher phase which is one of my criticisms well if you have a theme don't bat it into the face of the audience that's precisely the opposite of what you should do with a theme failure is the greatest teacher ray I don't recall ray ever happily suffering any sort of failure more people cite for that is usually the Ray tried to get kylo to the light side and failed that's who failure apparently again her biggest flaw is being too nice when this just came up the first thing I thought I just thought back to that er video on them and i genuinely expected Yoda to be like I like the red let me do temptation where there's like why is Yoda a crazy [ __ ] and this this scene when you're supposed to be a wise and [ __ ] he's like plague the character he was with Luke first met him reasons like everything burned the temple I just what happened to the freaking fish nuns in the morning what they were like this is our only job to take care of his [ __ ] place and you bent it down you [ __ ] it's like I didn't do it the ghost puppet did it oh just like that er is pretty much replaced the bad memories of this movie with some yeah yeah I'm surprised as a film major study a person that he's he's blatantly okay with a theme just being told to the audience ever feel what we're supposed to do with a film or story is delve into the subtext and use the references to infer like a message or an idea that's consistent throughout it instead of just going the theme of there's film failure is best teacher knowing oh okay me when it comes to its main themes this movie is not subtle and yet a whole lot of people yeah the theme should be subtle he's gonna say he was bleeding in your face then you did a theme wrong he's apparently aware of this and he's using it as a counterpoint like people didn't catch the theme even though it was obvious I think they did the problem is how badly done it is just because you have a theme doesn't mean it's virtuous of being a theme like come on you has to be well done you can't just go you know in in we've been through this relatedly explain it we bit we did this with just right we were like this is there's a theme of you know friendship and betrayal in the room like does that mean does that mean the room is incredible now it's like and I think Jeff's right was like well you know there are some people out there yeah it's it's over he wants to say that the room is a masterpiece by subjective status or whatever when it comes to its main themes this movie is not subtle it's miss what it's doing because they'd rather obsess about how I don't know forcefields work know what I thought you was gonna reference the lightning from Yoda that would make most sense but no he went with force fields I can't even think of a thing where their force fields in I'm not sure what he's referencing maybe the gravity part of the bomber that they would have been if they're supposed to be a force field see this is the thing a lot of people said they're really annoyed with my series because I didn't talk about the themes and I focused on puzzles and stuff I've got like a 20 minute section on themes in the third part it's probably not that long but like I go into how stupid it is to use themes alone as a defense for the film and it's like trust me just because I hated the plot holes doesn't doesn't mean that I ignored the themes I saw there was a clear as day bigger picture of course and this means they hammered into you is part of why they're so bad el rey Poe Finn and kylo I'll learn from their failures and grow as people aside though the orc is the best in the moment when he works Oh God go back go back go back so quickly it's not subtle and yet a whole lot of people miss what it's doing because they'd rather obsess about how I don't know force fields work now while rape Oh Finn and kylo I'll learn from their failures and grovel what slide know it Finn's arc is the best and the moment when he wrecks phasma and proudly declares himself to be a rebel scum here's my favorite moment in the movie and it didn't make any sense because he has no reference for the rebels only the resistance we should have said I resisted scum or something but even outside of that though he's arc did does anyone have a stab at what they thought his arc was because I'm still be lost on that doesn't even have any training to face phasma he became I guess that sounds kind of racist he's like resisted sculpt so yeah his he goes from being I want to run away from everything - ok I want to run away but I will defend the people I love being Rey I suppose I'll care about then he goes to in order to protect Rey this time I need to leave the ship and you know go back to being sort of cowardly and bumbling because they have a couple of bumbly jokes with him again which I've never really gotten with Finn I don't know why they make him bumbling all the time just like ok cool he's like a clown I guess and then he gets called a coward several times by rose and put onto this quest to save the fleet and then convinced by DJ by the realization that good guys and bad guys power the 1% that is what gives him the idea - yes I'm gonna die for the resistance the most confusing [ __ ] ever to think about it's a very confused character architects everyone like I said I've put in my video brush I cannot get over the fact that he has a lesson on how morality goes both ways and how there is no right guy in this in this war and then he decides there is a right guy from that it's like how did you get that how did that happen and I'm missing two point there fin cuz yeah because DJ would be so disappointed in him I thought I told you bad cheese but yeah okay fine he's got the best dog apparently okay the best example of this is mr. Lucas Skywalker drinker of milk and capture of big fish now I love Luke Skywalker I love him want to use whiny I love and what he's heroic and I really love him when he's conflicted and in the conversation around the last Jedi I've discovered that a lot of people have misunderstood Luke Skywalker for a really long time okay it's the same thing Mackintosh said it's that we don't get it it's always that's always hot wait okay okay we don't know Luke's presentation here is one of the most controversial aspects of the movie they took our hero and made him a sad bitter old man and yeah I get it it's and they didn't explain it but yes go on a bit of a shock just look at Rey she's shocked she thought he was going to walk out with a laser sword and face down on the whole first order and he has no intention of doing that now I spent an unhealthy amount of time reading the comments from this movie's detractors and a ton of I thought you didn't know why people if you actually did you would actually respond to their arguments a lot of these things that you point out are mostly straw men yes nobody is arguing nobody's arguing but the force field it's like also why are you looking at the comments for for comments on a kid's movie dude that's just sad just take me so seriously god Patrick why drinking coffee as kids drink wait he gives milk to in the other videos look those kids drinks take me seriously as a drink what's that little losing by her hand Patrick yes probably kids thing that's what it looks like to me looks like the the lid of a cookie jaw are you in cookies kids kids eat cookies people wanted him to be off on that Island learning ancient Jedi secrets getting him more powerful and then showing up till I didn't have to be that didn't have to be that it could have been that he was looking for an answer on how to maybe fix something or learn about some trick that could have helped in some way didn't doesn't have to be that he becomes God or something it didn't he could have died in this film by failing to defeat someone in a fight like Snoke for example and you still could have done it well it's by execution my friend and and the biggest issue by the way is like I've always said is like Luke could have been the guy we saw in that film but if you don't show us how he got there which by the way would take like three films probably to do it correctly and we're just not gonna believe that's Luke why should we it's just a new guy that you called Luke and you wanted to kill it tell us that he used to be Luke as simple as that it's dick Skywalker nickname people gave to the shed waiting for the random shot at cinemasins I'm sure we'll get that Oh Star Destroyer is out of the sky and becoming a Super Saiyan I guess but Luke Skywalker is not a power fantasy who are you countering with this who you're talking to who's who's saying I want to see look pull Star Destroyers out of the space okay good every comments guys that's the most consistent thing people were saying they wanted to see Luke pull style destroyers out of space that was that's what I was reading everywhere that's what me and Wolf said I think that was the end of both of our videos we said the biggest issue was that he didn't pull Star Destroyers out of space a new hope is not imaginary just like star killer I was gonna say sir probably he must eat maybe he's referencing that you just doesn't want to admit it don't know but Luke Skywalker is not a power fantasy a new hope is not about an ordinary kid becoming the biggest badass in the galaxy it's about an ordinary kid who wants to be a part of something greater to have a purpose in the universe and as the story goes on he does that but finds out that it's way more complicated than he thought why are you saying this like a countess something it's so bizarre you know it's funny how he said that we don't understand Luke Skywalker he says yeah everything so far he said about Luke is correct and he's saying it like you see you were wrong the whole time it's like no this is what we are saying it's stop what are you doing turns out his family is a [ __ ] mess it turns out that he's a little bit angry and every so often he needs to put on some disturbed and get dark oh Jesus I hate you for putting this turbed on here Oh God I don't like disturb because I do like disturb I just hate that you're using it believers use that on this scene Oh way to SAP the emotional value I'm not gonna sociate him with disturbed and I don't like that Jesus why couldn't you pick anything else stop it Luke's a complicated guy oh and to return to him 30 years later and have him be an ultra-powerful paragon of goodness would be pretty boring oh my good god at least explain how he can be from one to the other that's what people are arguing Jesus Christ as simple as that if we if Luke was Luke it would have been boring hello do you remember the gating walk remember the scene where ray says he says why you here ray and she's like I have no idea there's nothing to go up just no idea what's going on mister being a flawless character who never makes mistakes because man she has got problems she has no idea what we're gonna have to really really lie about the Dare ative this time you're gonna have to stretch the seeds as best you can you know what to do with herself yeah that's true she does she does seem to connect with different people you know who else has complicated Rea it's weird that she gets accused of being a flawless character who never makes mistakes because man she has got problems she has no idea what see I can't help yes a problem I can't help it seems very he's very manipulative in the way he just said that right that he deliberately throws in the the idea it's so instead of saying people are saying that she has no flaws and they cite these as reasons I'm gonna argue against that instead of that he skips over those people as if they're irrelevant he's like man does she have so many flaws it's like no you know that that is that is the complete opposite of the the most common things said about Ray like you're doing it too quickly get rid of it you're like no the idea that she has no flaws out of the way out of the way like we're not talking about that we're talking we're gonna talk about all these things that I'm just gonna make up problems she has no idea what to do with herself and why is there no idea what to do with itself that's the rightest [ __ ] problem it makes you non-human she's like she had a goal that she just forgets about it no she's just following she's like a pinball inside a pinball machine she's just like whoa whoa I'm over here now oh I'm gonna go I'm gonna go see Luke I'm fine I guess oh oh oh now I'm getting trained by Luke sort of not read I'm gonna go to kylo now whoo-hoo no reason to do any of these things but yeah kind of like that guy who's trying to join your group of friends but none of you actually want him to be there you're just kind of hoping that he has like no interests so you could just see it you're like what do you like it he's like hmm stuff me guidance I really like how he says that Rey has so many flaws I had somebody flaws because she doesn't have she has no idea what to do and yet she can like fly the Millennium Falcon like early on like without even just yeah like not knowing where you want to go today it's not really what people call a floor he'll be a bit you'll be alright especially if you're as powerful as here you as floors go you know everyone else is dealing with like addiction or just sins in general like pride and stuff she's just like yeah I'm not sure where I'm going to moat to be honest I might go over there and they're like oh I hope that works out for you she's like who knows we'll find out episode night I suppose different people hoping they'll provide her with some sort of guidance she plainly states it I need someone to show me my place in all this and this brings us to the incredible moment when kylo Ren reaches out his hand and offers her a place she can belong really offering it he's just like let's let's go to somewhere let's leave the first order and and go somewhere maybe to a planet chill out somewhere I can show you the galaxy like let's be honest if she'd taken his hand and he was like let's get into a shuttle and then they just fly away it would be like right what are you doing what's the plan here ray what's gonna happen now like don't you it this is the part that really [ __ ] in my mind is that she furiously hates him at the end of force awakens on the beginning of this film and it takes her like the story that Luke saw a bad future in Kyllo to convince her that kylo is worth saving it's like but you've seen that Luke was right he did have a bad but it's like yes but you look Luke caused it it's like Luke didn't ask kylo to kill all the students you idiot yeah let's ignore all the genocides that kylo committed it's insane it doesn't make any sense at all and it's just they look at it as layers they look at this complicated me like oh I guess I guess you could look at movies that had a lot of moments where bad guys ask good guys to join them but this was the first time I thought there was a chance the good guy might actually accept and that is the mark of good storytelling you can't even tell us why it's just she didn't know where she was going so why not join the bad guys I suppose it wouldn't have made any sense she has investments in the good guys she knows all of the good guys why would she go with Kyla it wouldn't make any sense should I just if she had and this is the thing with her badly written the film is I could have seen her going with him and I would have made a video about how it doesn't make any [ __ ] sense that she would have gone with him but she didn't so that's not where we are but interesting that you just call it good writing a sentence fascinating so I've talked a lot about how I wanted this movie to push Star Wars forward and do new things and it did all of that but I also said I wanted a rip-roaring good time and it is absolutely 100% that the thing begins with the speech I mean yeah if characters say whoo you know this is all you need at that point wait didn't you say this before thanks Lloyd didn't he'd say that well it's I just want a good time and then he proceeded to say which one were the best battles like well if he I mean yeah he definitely has complimented the BAL already but why not just do it again you know leave 100% that the thing begins with a space battle and ends with a desperate last stand where the resistance has nothing to use but ms-dos computers and janky little what okay fighters on a salt plant and ports are popping up everywhere why why is why is that a positive sweet spirit phasma has a sweet spirit sure every single thing you see rules so hard except the choreography sure everything rule oh my god he's he's fanboying so much like a freakin tar like I know is this don't like discussion anymore it's just this is good even if it's awful this is good sweet spear and every single thing than the scene rules so hard and also this is the funniest goddamn thing and yeah guys boobies yeah I'm fine with that joke but it doesn't say funny I know you love ol sourpuss Christopher Nolan and the stoic dour tone he brings to everything but what's with the Nolan hate that was weird yeah all right yeah Christopher Nolan and his films sour Plus Christopher Nolan and that stoic dour tone he brings to everything but lighten up you ever see Goodfellas is funny it's also scary what the hell are you doing right now lucky week that these comedy and dramatic films infinity walk came out did this year Goodfellas okay I guess it needs to have one joke in it for it to be as good as the last year I guess that's require I have no idea what's going on anymore well if you alive on net wolf is dead killed everything tense and emotionally devastating a movie can make you feel different things humor is good why am I even explaining to this you have to explain it because it was totally borked you can have comedy and drama but you don't do argue last year that was bad well I've definitely heard people argue that the the joke like the the yo mama joke didn't exactly land for a lot of people did it and I half through it's her he's just sad wolf in defense of the humor in the last year either there is humor in films you know what don't you agree you saying there isn't humor and good films is that what you're saying you know dramatic and unrelated but I just want to mention how much I love Adam drivers delivery of blow that piece of junk yeah I loved him going right back to being a cartoon after dating development and then removing it it was great look at her face this is about moving on moving on from failures and selfishness and self-loathing and empty heroics moving on from only certain families and those are nice ideas but they executed them horrific we badly special and everything being like it was 30 years ago moving on from the same old story beats and the same old status quo which they brought back and then re-established and continued they did not break it at all even people who even people who liked the laugh did I will usually cite that as such a shame that Kyllo became you know the emperor basically and that we're back to being rebels versus empire again she's like don't mention that part though don't mention it I love Star Wars I love the world and the characters and the feeling I get every time that the title hits the screen as the fanfare explodes out of the speakers and watching the last Jedi I was hit by a thought for the first time I could see this story continuing for decades to come yeah they can run it right into the ground baby you are right we should stop they gonna base Millions where you have to stop that would dude I'm not even kidding when I saw that scene my takeaway was oh they have an excuse to make a million Star Wars films now that's the only reason this scene exists you know that you can't just keep a series going forever because it tends to turn into [ __ ] every time what long-running enough James Bond is just up and down and up and out like this good was bad with good ones bad with the latest one was awful as far as I know I haven't actually seen her yeah Spectre it was yeah a lot of people didn't like it but there's a new blonde coming as far as I know well yeah but doesn't James Bond I'm not super familiar with not at all familiar with the James Bond films it's in it like it's not all the same continuous story it's more like it's almost a genre it's practically just a society it's like each film is connected but like really more like superhero films in that sense yeah yeah at some point you can't you can't continue the same story forever and ever and ever and ever and ever you can obviously they can jump to another part of the galaxy or universe even and have no references to any of the characters that we know and love or whatever which by the way I'd be on board with because you can just make something with the Star Wars I don't know rules in the universe obviously cuz the force is quite a fun thing to mess around with bounty hunters are cool you can make loads of alien thing but like no if they carry on with ray it's just gonna go on and on and this is the thing I think some people on this planet thought that maybe we could fast-forward by million years and we have like thousands of Star Wars films and you know what maybe more than half of them were good maybe that could happen but like yeah the last Jedi is [ __ ] killed so many people's investments it's like no I'd rather you just stop baking them now yeah like so bomb for God's sake how solo bomb is this you'll find a lot of people who like bombed oh so it made 420 million or whatever and you consider that bad it's like you judge it by how much they spent like this how it works if you spend 250 million on [ __ ] marketing than any film is going to make a lot of money I mean assuming you can make a good trailer instead of it being god-awful but yeah you know it's it's interesting we'll swill genuinely I think the damage the last Jedi has done will be found in the box office for episode 9 rather than solo but solo definitely shows blood in the water if you will yes it was the moment in the Battle of Crate when the Millennium Falcon arrives with Chewie in the pilot seat and Rey operating the gun turret my mind flashed forward years from now and I thought about how we'll talk about Star Wars in terms of eras there will be constants through the series the Millennium Falcon will remain but we'll talk about the era when Han Solo owned it or when l3 pilots or when l3 became oh Jesus raided and this was all because of things the last Jedi did this was no longer a story about special people from a few select bloodlines that's know what destined that was never the restriction it was never what bloodline did Anakin have born out of nothing and they're early what about all the people on the Jedi Council were they all from Skywalker's lineage or something like come on that's not what they were saying he was just legendary - he was prophesized to be the most powerful Jedi that's theirs and they judged it by midi-chlorian count or whatever maybe that's potential I'd have to look at the actual explanation for it because I car member but the prequels and the OT never said you have to come from a bloodline to be powerful or to be a force user let's say there's not a thing you're inventing that will also change like I love how they change the narrative - that our complaints are not that it's that we this is crazy I know but we like the idea that you train practice and become better at a skill that's cool to us because we relate to that it's something humans have to do pretty much across the board anything you want to do you have to get better at it by doing it it's a thing you don't just automatically come the best [ __ ] carpenter in the world I actually really like the idea of like new people from different parts of the galaxy just becoming legendary based on their own merits rather than lineage like people really like that idea can happen that's the thing though you can't have it this is the thing they could have traveled to a planet where there was a force using guy but he wasn't like a Jedi he could just be like he's he's the warrior of this planet there's the the originals never said you couldn't do that simple as that he's like no the last Jedi opened it up this is a story about a whole galaxy and the people with a story about a space chase at a casino willed that's what it was about there's there's no galaxy in there you kidding me the one thing that everyone pretty much universally agrees upon with the Disney trilogy is that they've made an enormous universe feel extremely small and that everyone happens to bump into each other like they're all the supermarket's but this is the thing at least kind of feel like you were in the same galaxy yeah they gave us tack Adana was a planet they went to and then we had the Death Star planet that's something I guess we got crate wolf so you can't complain about half 2.0 all right whose shape its future could come from anywhere they could be anyone from here Star Wars can go anywhere and he could always could you piece of [ __ ] really be anyone can just do everything well that's that's the difference he's kind of arguing what as if as if our problem is that anybody can become Darth Vader now and he's saying yeah that's great that anybody is allowed to use power and trainers like no no no no we're saying that they skip the part where they become it they just are it and that's the problem we're fine with anyone becoming powerful over time just you know you have some goblin it was like in a sewer and he realizes he can actually move something if you really concentrates then we have a whole movie about him getting powerful and then he starts his own religion and then yeah then the Jedi are like no you're a Jedi you know that could be a story I want to see the goblin man fight the Jedi this there's my Star Wars story they go Disney make it I'm on board I want a set movie on Korriban that'd be great I want I want a horror movie in the Star Wars universe gimme gimme gimme gimme a Star Wars death troopers not a movie it's a book and it's literally just dead space but Star Wars and that's what I would say is actually doing a job of getting outside of what Star Wars is more so than the last Jedi the last Jedi was just like a mess like somebody who likes the last jet Star Wars but thought that loads of it was wrong like oh they did this and the originals I didn't like that so let's fix it it's like no please stop it stop every time I watch it I found that idea more and more moving I don't care who that kid with the broom is it doesn't matter what I do care about is the hope and determination I see in his eyes he looks pretty bored to be is so I go over the videos like I so dumb that he gets so inspired by the story from Luke when the only people who could tell it would have been from the perspective of the resistance all they saw was him walk outside they don't really see what happens after that I just like have to assume and then from a perspective of the stormtroopers it's like oh well he was a ghost paulla he was a hologram I don't know what and it smells like oh that sounds really heroic it's like I don't know what it was he just he was there that he was God I don't know like why would kids be inspired by that compared to the story of Luke and his friends taking down the Death Star twice and obliterating the fascistic government like how are they even remote thirty years ago and that has managed to become a story that's fallen into myth so hard that nobody finds it inspiring so how sad is that ever since George Lucas made that first film Star Wars has been about how an ordinary person can escape their circumstances and become a part of something greater and the last strategy is awareness understands that okay and now because I couldn't find a more natural way to incorporate them into the speech I want to just mention a bunch of random little things I love in this movie the incredible texture and color palette of steve gadlin's cinematography John William is a scorer and how he weaves together countless light motifs from the entire things that you could say about pretty much all the Star Wars Phelps yeah a lot of mainstream highly budgeted films these days and I'm not even saying that was a criticism I'm saying that we have a very high budget you can afford the very best lighting and camera and and CGI artists and I'm not saying that their craft isn't appreciated it is appreciated but it's unfair because the people who make indie films who only have them to friends and $10 to make a film with but have an incredible story by this guy stabbed zoobi like nyeh [ __ ] that he's like the [ __ ] someone in the chat pointed out that this contradicts what he said because apparently he said that the score was boring and forgettable did he wait really wait he I I don't know there was just someone that someone said in the chat I don't know if it's actually true or not that's gonna say you didn't say in the plotholes video but I haven't seen all this tall stuff lying like that expression off your face reveals the giallo ask design of smokes chamber Artoo's cheap trick when the pores are poking at the lightsaber when the sad poured looks at showy poured scream oh god okay if you just if you just listen off the pork moments I'm starting to like be like oh that's that's what you're looking for okay music music music visuals no I'm saying he's listing things he's listing everything outside of the [ __ ] writing it was just like oh I mean I'm pretty sure everyone is in agreement at the mudan sound good so I thought this video rather was supposed to be explaining the things that people are more contentious about which is the story no one's really contentious about I got frustrated I got frustrated of some of the music cuz he was like I go I got the whole you know like if it was a great movie and then they reference the music you're talking about how they reused the Death Star but like if I like the film I might have enjoyed that but because I was getting so frustrated I was like don't you [ __ ] take their music put it back it's not yours it's not that I dislike to the music it's just that like most of it was just remade of songs we already had in the previous movies and everything that was new didn't stand out enough for me to remember any of it it's just during battle when the board hits the window when Jesus Christ he's actually gonna sigh every single pulled so he swats the floor got the dashboard pores are great every port oh jeez man you're like Disney's favorite customer they made this for you I think remember he said he's not a shill and no I mean he also said this has meant for children around his neck the way DJ wears his boots around his deck and this is the guy who's saying that we need to stop trying to critique films because we don't know what we're talking about his character at all it was cool shut up what hug thinks he can kill Kyle oh when poems BBH belly the whole design of crate so that as warfare breaks out on the planet it actually looks like it's bleeding loose wink at c-3po the way Luke first saw Leia via a projection and the last time she sees him is a projection see it rhymes like Lucas loves this is a weird movie to talk even this so these connections is so irrelevant like so tiny they be they would be what I would call beet picks like you just highlighted little things I just have to figure elephants bb-8 has a belly according to Patrick of house Williams he's a very esteemed critic about this video ended up being longer than it should need to be because it's not enough to say why I think the movie is it's longer than it needs to be because he didn't have enough time to say why what okay just go go one more time with that one he's like Lucas loves this is a weird movie to talk about this video ended up being longer than it should need to be because it's not enough to say why I think the movie is good I also have to preach so the point of the video is to say why it's great and the video ended up being longer than it needs to be because like he said it's longer than it needs to be but he needed to explain why it's good when the intention was to explain why is great I am so confused by that line but go ahead he emptily responds to all the people who are going to say but why didn't you talk about this thing that's bad months ago I said there was no way I would make this video but the truth is that since December I haven't stopped thinking about the last Jedi stop thinking about the kids movie you gotta be more adult and think about adult things still thinking about the kids movie and to all the people who hate it I wish that you could see what I see because I wish that you could understand a single argument that was thrown against you or not strawman it undecided I wish Patrick give me one movie you do not like just give me one and then I'll throw the exact same statement back to you I wish you could see what I see in the room wish you could understand the quality of the room like Joe uh it's like watching someone eat [ __ ] and then you go cool alright you could mean he's like I wish you could taste what I taste like right i'ma just eat real food you could eat me that dude I'm good not an argument is the short version of what I just said and we're done guys thank you so much you were fantastic as always now I am going to take this footage and put it online I'll see you later it's gonna be for this this should be the gag I guess this will be the payoff anyone is actually going to watch that do you I don't know I would no one cares about you oh he he likes his Squarespace and his I'm assuming audible so you can Lynn to learn about the last Jedi learn about writing it'll be great even though you can't read learn about writing because there's no such thing as good or bad writing so yeah that was it we did it I don't I don't really know how to sum up that video he likes to milk titty monster scene I think that's a good summary I mean to explain why the last Jedi is great it's like he cut his I'm way better that I could have done better than that like yes you it's so meandering because he went from like let me do a huge disclaimer for why anybody who doesn't already agree with me is an [ __ ] it's like okay he was like let me name a bunch of things that apparently aren't serious reasons for why it's good ed let me read sort of like revised how the actual scenes went and describes you the characters are ex without explaining it and then ends with a bunch of random tiny things like pubs are awesome so yeah I get that you like the film I do not understand from what you've just given there any sort of reason why I don't follow even a little bit still yeah would be much better if you just come on in and just talk like debate I mean if it's just right if just right was anything to go by you present them a contradiction and then they will say it doesn't matter and that's how the conversation will go every time wait-wait-wait-wait wasn't that video that that he shield about just right the actual video that you were watching before just right came in no we watched his follow-up one that explained that everybody has a different opinion on things in case you had no idea about that I was gonna say we you know I'm glad that I just shared that with you because you probably didn't know you probably weren't aware that everybody is different it's fascinating stuff yeah so yeah well well probably bill to do some form of another video but I was gonna say podcasts name everybody use that link who's not used it already and you can vote on what name you think the [ __ ] I should have I think that probably one of the most narrative least suitable names is currently winning but I mean the top two choices are pretty good I guess I should read super chats as well cuz I've let I've let them flow for a while and when you re upload this on your muler channel you should put the straw poll and the it'll be in the description yeah that makes sense I'll break put in the top comment YouTube police more likely if gate I mean that's that that's actually made me think we're still hoping to get YMS on something like this eventually and him and wolf have that they share that language that that I am far too a high class to be able to engage in it's it's it's still a hope for anybody who's wondering I'm not sure what's gonna happen though cuz I don't know if it feels but if we couldn't get er it feels very unlikely that we get YMS but you know maybe well at least YMS like responds er just vanishes for long periods of time this is true but he did he started a patreon recently so maybe we'll be seeing more of a more presence from him eventually like if he tries to go full-time I think that's his issue right now is that he's not the reason you can't understand their logic is because there is none it's not supposed to make sense you're supposed to follow without question you're applying logic to illogical people in fairness he did actually make the video where he pretty much spat on logic so mmm those are all terrible for the podcast neighbors were all right I thought they were pretty good if you guys have got better suggestions you know if you want to keep keep an eye on the chat war for app avenge like if you guys think that uh they come up with better names we'll go for it remember all the ones that are in there right now are all suggested from the audience though someone said kfp Kentucky Fried porks what for a podcast name I don't know there's only one T in Ireland that's berries I don't get if it's a reference [ __ ] space wizards that opening scene in TFA was really intended for children oh yeah you know when they Massacre all the innocent people guys remember that bit all the innocent villagers who were like begging for mercy and they all get killed yeah I was a strictly a kids movie yeah we read that one it takes town to have a fivehead and zero points what a fivehead is he talked about oh because because Patrick Williams has I think five head would be underestimate you know when you put like your four fingers on your forehead the connects I got it but I mean no offense to no no like I'm really not trying to be a dick here but like I've seen people's hair lines the stronger than Patrick Williams is like you may as well shave at that point because I don't know like how far back that is I don't think I've seen it go that far back on a person that age that hasn't decided to shave it you know most people do look I'm 21 and I will admit it's not like I like to admit to because it's not something I like but male pattern baldness runs in my family and I got it at 21 and I'm not happy about it but I would never let it get to that point I just shave it bald at least I can grow beard yeah do the go Kratos why not yeah wolf and mala do a podcast with me from geeks and gamers he's friends with Jeff from world class [ __ ] I mean there's no limit on who we could have on this thing to be honest as long as they're okay with like being you for hours on end it's like what it is a lot like you Mahler he's he's gone up pretty quickly sweet I don't know I don't think I know him I do I do know him through will class bullsh is in terms of like references but I think I've seen the channel yeah I don't know him personally but I have seen a few stuff mm-hmm his only argument was there was a jab at CG really that's probably a reference to something that I mean it was it was awhile ago now but sure tlj surprised me that a movie could be so Johnson Bravo Ryan Bravo Phantom Menace yeah I mean he's making another movie right now isn't he some kind of things with Henry Cavill that's what I've heard some kind of thrillers by thing or something or it could be someone else but like everyone is now waiting to see it just to see if it's bad or something I was like I told I don't particularly care like I'm not sure I guess people get a higher him now because he's controversial would that be a good reason to hire a director slash writer I don't know Donna do you think his parents know he still lives with them I hate the movie for all the reasons mother pointed out if you like it great you can ignore the narrative this guy has never watched Star Wars ever I don't think he lives with them I think he visits them and like a guest does these this video because I don't know why the parents were in this video to be perfectly honest with you they seemed kid a pointless kid he doesn't understand comedy well he liked the last Jedi that's all about that's all about comedy right right this coffee pot looks like a t-rex is coming Oh cuz of the cuz the vibrations under Canadian military law Poe following the retreat order would be illegal following the retreat order what in in crate also yeah I guess we don't even know what the laws are for the resistance considering it's like a complete bastard is 20 people left on a ship that's not even theirs so now don't even know if they've ever established that they were unable to get better bombs than it would have been better I don't see him why they wouldn't have access to y-wings but I mean why would they be why would they have access to those Baba's dot bombers that are effective it would be my question I suppose wait wait den those bombers can do Ken hyperdrive to space like why if the bomber is gonna be destroyed anyway oh yes it is hyperspace everything if you hike the space literal bombs into somebody surely though do massive damage massive damage all of the damage tons of damage though is also somebody into super tad said oh my god right and Johnson is so racist that he casted Asian people to do kamikaze bombing if this film was like hated by that crowd they probably would have pointed that out like honestly that's the kind of [ __ ] they do maybe Chinese really hate this film they yeah didn't solo like Bailey even make even a remote sense of like money like it got booed out like straight away as far as I know yeah but the last Jedi survived a week I think before it was pushed out so yeah even though I wings were made to be cheap as they stripped out visions from the Clone Wars and rebels even show this I don't think it's about I don't know what it is because they they establish that they buy stuff from the Kanto bike people and for some reason they only bought literally the worst [ __ ] ship in the history of Star Wars like let's buy loads of those ones so Civil War and your recommendation is pretty good theme meme aside what are your thoughts on the thematic connection motivation of revenge in stark Panther and Zima I mean it's it would be a lot to go into is probably gonna be in my video on the film when we get there but it's interesting you bring it up because it's something you talk about without the film beaten into the face you're like did you notice that what connects all these characters is a sense of wanting to achieve revenge while in the last geliar like did you notice that yes I noticed okay how did you not notice civil war is a well-made film they don't really have to explain everything ya know it's very I would I would argue it's very clear but at least they did have a character goat you know revenge isn't always the best thing to do and you need to learn to overcome it you like oh my god let's stop between this and a holes using the anniversary of 9/11 to take petty jabs the president Trump why haven't we nuked earth yet I think it'll take more than a couple of bad Star Wars films to to push that button but I mean maybe we'll get there the bombers could have tilted upwards and released their payload oh you mean like in a way that makes it fire forward if they have artificial gravity that actually could work as in it doesn't matter how slowly they they are pushed out they would keep going you know I mean it's worth trying it's very slow it's gonna be very slow though like traveling from it would be hilariously slow and it would be the most stupid [ __ ] fight in history of anything but it'd be funny as hell to watch it's like all other people the dread you know like team yeah yeah destroy bombed them yeah you get one Thai fighter to shoot the ball but they just blows up all of them they like her [ __ ] okay have to redo it even if as new things it has to be compatible with the previously established story and satisfactorily answer questions that were left open they don't believe in that I'm afraid yeah then is this has to be a troll thank you for making these great videos I love the rant on the fallen Kingdom movie greetings from a fan from the Netherlands greetings he's just liking things people hate to be contrary I I don't know I think he thinks this was a good video do you guys to get the impression of a parody no I don't I think this is like a real thing even if it is there are people who legitimately was like a threat and he said he's really glad the Patrick loved the movie so I seriously doubt that this is meant to be a joke right under sent by noticed him we need Jared to take on Patrick Williams there's a Kobe will ask you for Jared I'm afraid we're not doing Jared anymore but this video once he's loaded there's a general yeah wouldn't your podcast matter one spin month correct your honor you're gonna you can plug that if you want yeah my podcast is once per month it's gonna be next Wednesday we're gonna have the act man on a lot of people have requested him to come on past so it was pretty okay with coming on with us and we will cover Jared there but and me and rags will be there right is that me or as I you would be me am i speaking in a vacuum here what's going on I I don't know if it was me or you I think it must been you I don't know app event didn't say anything but it might've been my connection but I couldn't hear a thing he was saying I can't hear either yeah my the connection was really bad I don't know just so happened the ping was just all right it's not a robot if you want to quickly do that again will act man me rags podcast yeah us act man Jerad next Wednesday there you go at 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time is that gonna be live yes I will people because I you know people have asked me to do both people want it live but they also want our icons to be lit up so at first I was like ok well just like do it offline then I'll light up the icon but people still want it live so I'll do it live edit it later and put it back up afterwards why do you do what I do well I'm still going to do with like this kind of ish format where we're at the bottom and it's just showing the discord one but I got it edit in the the intro cuz otherwise we're gonna be sitting here for five minutes saying nothing until podcast comes on so we'll be streamed live and then like within like I say the next day or so it'll be uploaded with the intro and [ __ ] fair enough go watch it I think that Moller response for you just for the milk monster comment again I think he was joking on that point we can give him that but he's made such bizarre comments that we took it for 100% real assuming it isn't real I don't know for sure debate this movie with this man immediately he won't he's not going to talk to us Patrick wouldn't wouldn't want to talk to us I don't think music a question to ask this hippie bastard where does he think the resistance get the damn weapons from these one percenters exactly again the film contradicts itself so I don't know why we're supposed to feel that the resistance is the answer to this horrible crime when they're the ones that are propagating it anyway the air resistance bought weapons from Kanto bite slavers let me explain my TLA is good by stating things I like and not explaining why they actually make it great you just have boring taste I don't talk to you maybe that could sum up the video progress if they TL a well yeah I guess do the last awakened progress to walls jumping off a cliff is still progress true I like how Kyle is besting him tricking Han in order to buy time which feels like something solos some would do was actually supposed to show him being weak when driver played at full heal um again I don't understand his character at all Kyle owes you can see breakdowns but the breakdowns will literally just describe the scenes to you as if it's layered and it's complicated when it's just like huh why why is any of this happening Kyle arena so can't make up his mind what what side he wants to take on and again like I'm if he's he gonna be full-on villain in episode 9 like is that gonna be yeah that's gonna be fun and the what if what if ray fights him at the end and she beats him on that'd be crazy who'd be like that if she loses to it again like I said I'm super curious about what I gonna do with Episode knife just for that someone in the chat pointed out that you know he delete comment on his video so he definitely wouldn't talk to you yeah a lot of people said that he deleted my comment and I loaded up the other day and I couldn't find it I don't consider him what's been going on lately on YouTube like a lot of people say the comments get to lead and a lot of people like no they don't they still they're like I'm not saying anything definitive but I mean it could have been who knows yeah like I don't know for sure if there's a way to find out for sure then you know fair enough but he could easily just argue that he was picked up by a spam filter that say that they just picked a random word even though my comment is very you know mundane but whatever kylo Ren is a River feel of Jack and solo this is oh yeah yeah Mathi monday makáts accused of it all the time but his videos are still filled with negative comments you know so this is like I doubt used to leave them but if I guess he could be at this point anyway maybe before I could have definitely believed it Luke says Kyle was influenced by Snoke so kylo had a choice between Luke and Snoke but then Luke tried to murder him so the choice is obvious and kylo just killed everyone that's a story I'd like to see instead of they didn't explain it well like I just don't get why you wouldn't want to show it like as this kid is growing up he's getting whispers from Snoke and how powers is you know just it's gonna have to be power because what else would it be and but yeah it's it's jarring considering what we got kylo switches between face and heel more often than the Big Show there's a reference to wrestling and I barely watched it but I I knew about Big Show cuz I played some of the wrestling games on GameCube and he was in it let me guess part doesn't want us to point out plot holes again either right well that's the thing right a lot of the criticisms I have of his points recognizing the holes in the story that [ __ ] it up and then he'd be like why you why you talking about them they don't matter and I guess it comes down to is like well can you argue for it literally any piece of fiction that way so every film is automatically a masterpiece I [Music] was looking at somebody who Photoshop Idris oh yeah yeah I thought yeah didn't you post on already or as a new one no it was Harry Cruz oh oh right right I mean I'm not getting notifications for those it's weird Patrick realize he's defending a racist like ruin the cast of the only two Asian people in two separate kamikaze roads that was what you're probably talking about yeah I am oh you yes these good as the jury would do it was like you know that they would have had to search for that for a while like the right image to be able to make it work they did a really good job of it I'll have to check my Twitter notifications soon Vinson rebel scum reminds me of ginseng may the force be with you for no reason but fanservice yes agreed waiting for the random shot cinemasins yeah that never happened Oh unless you did it in here somewhere actually wait yeah what's at the end bugs I was gonna say it's like reflecting back off your mic as well oh sorry okay I thought it was only mirrors like why is it helps make these videos and look I know people will be angry at this video even though it's just me talking about why I like a movie I mean you know if you actively lie it if you lie about what happens in a movie and you [ __ ] on the people that didn't like it right at the beginning you could probably picture why people might have a problem with it you also very vitriolic ly tell people to shut up about plot holes like why do you pretend like you're some kind of innocent creature just sharing your perspective that's it didn't do it you don't send me a 2,000 word email about what wrong because I won't read it and look this is the last time I'm gonna talk about Star Wars or the last Jedi in a video for a while good I'll keep that word and what is a while in your idea is it like two days you'll be interesting to see if he like does this maybe next year he'd be like oh I guess he's gonna have to solve our episode 9 isn't he like people are still angry I can't dude imagine episode 9 is like good and then all the people who loved episode 8 alike perhaps tonight is terrible the GRU install it's just exhausting at this point and I've said everything I want to say exhausting yes she was so exhausting to do the things I want to do okay it's just so exhausting unfortunate for you Noland Envy that's probably tied to he's probably annoyed that everyone appreciates Noland films while everyone's [ __ ] on the Rian Johnson was I mean not all of Noland films but a lot of people like looper so you know calm down I didn't like looper that much but I know a lot of people did like it yeah there's a lot of discussion about the choreography in the throne room fight but the one thing no one can deny is the fact that they edited out a knife in order to save ray from dying that's something that actually happened so yeah yeah like people who loved that fight they literally gonna say like that doesn't matter that's not important okay fine nothing matters hope is like the sunrise it's true my parents would stroke out if I was him probably he he probably has an IMDB page dedicated to poorly written comedies I mean I thinks that he's got like a way better perspective on this than than us because we're just random dudes who didn't go to film school so he probably won't take you seriously on that comment anyway please do this every frame of pause with the last Jedi is amazing by major Lee that video is actually in our suggestion thing we've got like a backlog but I just got through all the super chats that I've ignored for like two hours so that's actually feels like an achievement ow so we we have choices here since we're up to three hours you guys we can end and talk about you know maybe doing another time or we could go for another video I have one but it's just a very short video well it's just a certain video showing what Rhys has been doing huh well I get credit the criticism on orous or a good one no no no not a criticism of him just him receiving a prosthetic leg it's kind of cute oh you mean it's an actual dog Oh getting a prosthetic leg watch that on this I don't know we're usually very evil to things maybe we can find a way to be evil that's all right yeah we'll nitpick the dog video all right did you think that would sound good on our end cuz it doesn't sounds horrible when did just right just right promoted Patrick realms on Twitter a lot and I don't know if he might have him in his newest video considering he put him in this video so and backstroke of the West it's a Twitter video everyone wants us to see backstroke of the West as well at some point it's on it's on a to-do list there's just so many things to do and see well in that case I don't have it it's a Twitter video watch some down would be yeah because I I don't know if I haven't really gone on any video suggestions that are like below 10 minutes or anything and considering we just did 3 hours out of out of a 20 minute video that's actually insane it must have been hey it's better than five and a half on to 11 minutes that is true and you know yes just it's not supposed to be a 5 hour podcast every time guys it's all it's all good it's not supposed to be already full I mean 3 is pretty creepy now yeah and if this is gonna be weekly don't worry we shall return yeah I think I think I'm happy enough to just stop there you guys you guys feeling feeling good yes in that rest what one Oh time someone said we should watch a VP - and it's like well just watch anything look it flagged yeah even if we did I just I just don't want to watch a VP - ever again yeah no that was it's [ __ ] dark least of its problems that's such a terrible film so so again last chance to vote on the straw poll I'll just spam it again we're gonna be deciding if figuring out a name whichever one sounds the best it's not gonna it's not too important but he's nice to actually have titles instead of nothing this video that you're listening to right now will not be on my channel it'll be on my second one which is linked by here so you know subscribe if you want to see it and our guest this week the first ever guest we had it was beautiful was app event and his channel will be going into the oh wait cluttered sell your channel why should they subscribe to you no I mean well my channel actually no I wouldn't plug it cuz my feeders had garbage but if you want to check it out it's right there right down below did a show for you guys because for me chats like frozen now either one of dad some if you either you want to post that in there so one of my mods can spam it instead because apparently I'm maybe I'm timed out my chats just stop with no no you already posted it okay good because chats don't work if it out I hope it's still around anyway I'll happen with your chat but oh there you go this its comeback and yes what may as well what's happening next on your on your channel hyper burn what are you covering next well I'm not really sure probably just gonna do a stream just stream a bunch of memes really weird videos and hot takes on Twitter but um hundred and that I'm not really sure it depends entirely on what's really hot today but yeah also oh I forgot I was about to do a review of shadow of a Tomb Raider it's one of games that I've been wanting to play because the previous two has been really not great and I really want this game to at least do something not much that's interesting why why bone conflict by each interesting because I also want to watch a watch review shadow of the Tomb Raider but I liked the last two games oh really oh really yes I liked the second one more in terms of gameplay I thought its story was [ __ ] in the second one exactly exactly that's my point this story of the first two games are not great but the gameplay was pretty good I look I loved the gameplay it's fun Wolffe impliedly like it's just like it's like well we're not really gonna be able to fight about much in the second game cuz the second game's story was legitimately [ __ ] the first game I mean this game story was like yeah it's okay it's not anything amazing but it was like like fun mm-hmm no response about that yars Cora video sucked fight me well the our score our video sucked no okay I love the Korra video it's fun as [ __ ] for somebody else doesn't even got a context I feel like I could explain to people why core is terrible without having seen it it's uh he even tries to like argue for it at certain points he's like oh this this is kind of a good idea that we could use and then they ruin it but yeah so yeah season one like I've watched all entirety of Korra season one was okay like it's nothing great but I can certainly seem to see people why I hated it season two us [ __ ] [ __ ] was garbage the last two season was it was too late to be good so I just could say some mixed bag overall Cora wolf what's happening in your channel soon next I got a video on the gray coming out in the next few days speak speak speaking of Liam Neeson films every scene any of the II like what's that Liam Neeson film where he was on was it on a plane was it on a plane was a non-stop yeah not that what do you think about a film it was stupid but it was fun as [ __ ] I was you know I mean when I went up to my friend to ask if he wanted to see it I was like hey you want to watch him shoots people on an airplane and he was like yes so that's really all we needed to know so it's just awesome what does that [ __ ] patrick has for sale it's like I don't even I don't know cuz there's a thing on the screen hover to that hover to that picture yeah that's a channel the channel's name is very weird Sappho of Lesbos less balsam LCD into I guess that's his into but just looks funny this is like I'm selling Asscher with just his face like maximized yes so the gray what else you go working on an objectivity feel controversial oh I would love to see that you make a lot of it just roasting people on Twitter yeah I'm still working on it not finished yet the gray video will be out first cuz that one iced have the script in video footage for I just need to actually record it and then edit it all together objectivity video I don't know when that's gonna be out still working on the Lord of the Rings video but yeah act man on the podcast next week Wednesday 6 p.m. yes they for me I'm gonna do a video on the predator when I finally see it and then I'm back to working on the TFA which it's month month number four or five but I'm actually getting there the the editing has begun but it's being paused in favor of the predator but it should speed up and hmm the parrot er is gonna be released tomorrow in my time on my times I will see you two apparently they have they have MCU level humor in there that it's Shane black he forces humor like wherever he goes I don't know he's given serious content he's just like jokes jokes for everyone jokes you're like oh okay okay he did it to Ironman 3 when he shouldn't have and he's doing it to predator which I don't know man I remember the days when predator wasn't a comedy personally alright that's where I was I mean the first film was the first field the first half of the film at least was pretty funny like when Arnold Schwarzenegger tries to pin the guy down throwing his knife I know it's like what did you say I forgot they say stick around oh yeah it's a one-liner though they're all over action movies and obviously it that's when it's an action movie it turns into a horror movie doesn't do one-liners that point aside from [ __ ] yeah they establish it as an action movie first before he actually turns to a horror film it's subversive time ain't got no time to bleed that's just a fantastic life but yes so that's still coming and I think I'm yeah I have to do an update for that tomorrow on patreon those those there's a free in there more detail they'll be able to get you a more of a like idea of how much progress has been made watch more this is obi-wan and rebel anymore unbridled rage yeah I'm almost judging from what why mass has said and the trailers and the leaked script I'm pretty sure predator is gonna be terrible so you can bet I'll be making a video on that cuz predator is one of my favorite films of all time so they'll probably do cats super Tori talking I was gonna say they were they want a quick update with what went wrong with Jared um that's at the beginning of this video but it's we could bookend it you want to do a quick explanation again wolf yes okay so Jared lost his mind whatever there was to lose and deleted his channel because he he didn't think that there was enough 32 year-old men such as himself who were just like him because apparently he thought every one of his fans were Minecraft fanboys and yeah I don't know where happened no I don't know either and he said he's a man of substance which is true but not in the sense that he wants it to be true and he deleted his channel made a new one because he said he's okay with only having a few subscribers as long as they're just like him so there you have it yeah and he'll be covering him on my channel but we won't be doing it here he said he didn't want to be a parent and he didn't he didn't want to be what was it he didn't wanna be a novelty which there's no way I could describe his anything else on this channel he's absolutely a novelty but I thought that it was a relationship that he could definitely benefit from because he was getting a lot of subscribers and new people in there that actually cared about what he had to say so I figured why wouldn't he want that but he actually says something along lines of like he was having to make stupid videos but like nobody asked for the one where he was in a thong dancing I don't think anyone asks for it anyway is bit weird I make a video when it's life so yeah it's just naturally kind of makes the worst content on YouTube or at least worst from a certain point of view best if you're on this podcast and laughing at it and he will still be covered on on Wolf's podcast and I think it'll be amusing to see how the act bad reacts to a you thought you got to pick the best jared video I don't even know what you do if you got the idea what you to go with oh I gotta find a new one they deleted his little [ __ ] channel you remember that purple haired bear chick like the [ __ ] man forever at all memories yes that's that is it I suppose it's been a lot of fun again you can find this on my second channel if you really want it this video cuz it's it's absolutely been terrible but I've had a lot of fun so I suppose it's time to say goodbye folks a completely ruin the tow to the average like well I have to stay consistent I'm more consistent than Patrick Williams can say that at least true but yes goodbye everyone it's been fun [Music]

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Keywords: Patrick, willems, explains, star, wars, the, last, jedi, and, why, its, great, mauler, dishonoured, wolf, rags, appabend

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Length: 186min 56sec (11216 seconds)

Published: Tue Sep 11 2018