EEVblog #437 - Removing SMD Parts with ChipQuik

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At http://www.chipquik.com/FAQs/FAQ5.html they say "To insure the integrity of the new solder joints, it is of the utmost importance to thoroughly clean and polish the pads." Does that mean the the presence of ChipQuik residue would cause problems when soldering? I guess cleaning a board is reasonably possible, but how would one clean that FPGA if reusing it?

I wonder what that stuff is. According to some data sheets their non-lead-free solder is 63/37 Sn/Pb, but that has a melting point of 183 °C, and they claim "Simply by adding Chip Quik , normal solder will reflow at a safe low temperature below 150 deg. C" and they claim by itself it melts at 58°C.

This HP PDF claims 49Bi21In18Pb12Sn melts at 58°C. This matches their page here stating that "The solder is an alloy of tin, lead, indium, and bismuth."

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Mar 11 2013 🗫︎ replies

Great marketing for Chip Quik

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Hi, it's time for another soldering repair video. Now ever since those LeCroy videos I did where I was trying to repair the LeCroy oscilloscope, and I ripped off this huge quad flat pack ASIC rather brutally and medival actually, because I didn't need the chip again. And so yeah, I just cut the pins and ripped the damn thing off. And a lot of people said, well, why don't you use ChipQuik? And, well, I don't have any ChipQuik! So the makers of ChipQuik, they must have thought the same thing. They've sent me some! So let's give it a go, this low melting point ChipQuik repair stuff. And it's supposed to be just that, low melting point solder that you can put on your chip so that you can heat up all of the pins at once and safely [ makes popping sound ] remove the chip without using a special hot air attachment, which is the traditional method for getting off a large pin count quad flat pack. Is it any good? Eh, we'll find out! And here it is, it's the ChipQuik patented ooh, SMD removal kit SMD1. And well, it's about $16 US dollars or something like that, umm, might be more or less depending on where you get it from and what country and what you get is a bit of flux in a little tube, ChipQuik flux SMD291 no-clean paste flux I don't think there's anything special with that flux, it's just regular gel-type flux. You could probably use any main type of flux you like. And, there's some of the low melting point solder alloy -- the special patented alloy -- which is what gives this thing its magic apparently, and you get some 70% isopropanol alcohol wipes as well. No big deal. But that's the alloy you're paying for. And apparently it's very expensive stuff if you want to buy a lot, of it, it's not cheap at all. use sparingly. Apparently this is enough to do like eight to ten chips, they claim. Depends on the size. And it's apparently really easy to use. You apply flux to all the leads, you melt the ChipQuik alloy on all the pins, and you heat it up and maintain that alloy in a molten state so you can remove the chip and take it off with a pickup tool. That's it! Hmm. Is it that easy? We'll find out. And if you want to get these 70% isopropanol wipes, pretty handy things to have around the lab for all sorts of purposes, not only cleaning boards but for cleaning all sorts of stuff, then you can get them from your local chemist in large boxes like this, exactly the same stuff. They're for medical uses, cleaning down your skin and stuff like that before you, you know, inject yourself or do something like that. So available cheaply at any chemist or "drugstore" for you yanks. And here it is up close, the special ChipQuik patented low melting point alloy. How low? Well, they claim it's around 58 degrees celsius. Crikey! That's like, as hot as my old lab used to get in the middle of summer here Here it is compared to regular 60/40 tin solder. It looks a bit shinier and brighter, and as you can see on the end there, it's actually broken off. It's pretty brittle, this stuff. If you have at regular solder it's not very brittle at all, of course you can bend it like that, all sorts of ways, and you know, it really takes some breaking. But this ChipQuik stuff just-- whoop, that just broke, straight off. Now they're not actually telling you, that I could find anyway, what sort of alloy this is, and why it's patented. I mean I'm sure it's been done before. They also sell low melting point solder paste as well, but that's just regular 42% tin 58% bismuth paste that you can get from many different manufacturers, and that has a lower melting point, you know, 130-something degrees 138 degrees I think, something like that. But they claim this wire alloy does 58 degrees celsius. Whew! So, does it melt at a very low temperature? Well, let's find out! I've got my hot air gun here set to a hundred degrees celsius, because all of my soldering irons only go down to a minimum of 200 degrees celsius, so here it is around a hundred degrees on the hot air Let's have a look. Is that starting to do anything? I don't know... Not sure. It doesn't, uhh Nope, a hundred degrees doesn't seem to be-- oh yeah, look! Look! Look at that! There you go, that's only a hundred degrees celsius. Brilliant. And, let's see how long it stays molten at a hundred-- look, it's still-- it's still even after a couple of seconds it's still pretty molten. Wow. So let's compare it with regular 60/40 solder and see how long it stays molten at a higher-- well, a regular soldering temperature. So I've got my JBC iron here set to 280 degrees which is, you know, a fairly average low temperature for a soldering iron. So the top one is the Quick Chip and the bottom one is regular 60/40 lead solder. So let's mel-- mol-- keep that molten there we go, let's leave it there a few seconds and, as you can see it stays molten for, I don't know, 4-- 3 or 4 seconds, something like that, without any major thermal effects. Maybe a little from the ground plane underneath there, but yeah, it doesn't stay molten very long. That means that on a big quad flat pack you can't just heat up all four sides at once, with your regular soldering iron and expect to be able to desolder it. By the time you get around all four sides, it's gone. So let's compare that to the ChipQuik, Here we go. Look at that. So let's heat that up, leave it there for a couple of seconds. And it is still molten. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8-- you know, like at least twice as long. And of course the way this stuff works is, if you combine it with regular solder, then it lowers the melting point of the whole alloy, of course. Because you've effectively changed the alloy, you've added whatever alloy is in here to this alloy, and you've created a composite alloy. So let's try that, let's bring this over and put that all in the-- so we've added our ChipQuik to regular 60/40 stuff, and let's give that a go. As you can see, it stays molten for longer. So let me just add more to that, more ChipQuik in there. There we go, and so we'll keep that all molten, and as you can see, it still stays molten for [ laughs ] yeah, a fair amount of time and then it starts to really go crystalline and stuff like that. So, what good is that? Well, let's say we wanted to remove, without damaging all the pads, this huge Spartan FPGA, it's an XC30S in a 208 pin quad flat pack. 52 pins per side. It's quite a large one, you know, you don't get too many bigger ones than that. So it's not a bad example at all. How would you normally remove this? Well, you would normally remove it with a specific hot air attachment, that actually blew hot air over all four sides, and you-- usually, if you want to do it properly you buy a hot air attachment that is designed for your specific size chip. So if you've got a hot air gun, you usually need a whole bunch of attachments for your specific chip. Which is OK for a big company or something like that, you know, for a known product that you have to remove all the time, but just one-off, how do you do it? It ain't easy, unless you've got this ChipQuik, or you go along like I did in a previous video and physically cut all the pins off, like that but you have to be careful that you don't actually cause damage to the chip. But with this ChipQuik, we should be able to put solder-- the idea is put solder on all four sides of this chip, and it'll stay molten long enough on all four sides to lift the chip off. That's the theory. Alright, now let's give this a go Now we're going to need a pickup tool to you know, a vacuum tool to extract this off once we melt all the pins. Now, if you don't have one cheap and easy solution. Some blue tack like this, whack it on the end of a screwdriver, it's nice and tacky, very low cost. You can stick that in the middle of the chip, and you should be able to-- I mean I can lift that whole board up, so we should be able to easily lift that chip off. Alright, let's give it a go it's supposed to be easy. Now bear in mind this is the very first time I've done this, I've never used ChipQuik before I haven't practiced, so I'm doing it first time exactly as you would perhaps I'd highly recommend if you get an important part you practice, but anyway. Let's put the flux on all the pins there. Now and as I said, it probably doesn't matter what flux you use here. Alright, so we have the flux on all the pins, let's get my iron, chisel tip of course, and I've set it-- you don't want it too high, I've set it for about 280 degrees or thereabouts, umm celsius. by the way, everything I say is in celsius because you don't want to get it too hot and lift off the pads. So it's a bit of a compromise between how hot you get it to how long it stays molten to, you know, risk of lifting those pads. So anyway, here we go, let's give it a go. I expect a lot of fuming. For the uh, all the flux in there. But we really need to use a fair bit of this. to get on every pin along there. So and be careful you don't put too much pressure on this by the way, -- blow those fumes away -- because you don't want to lift any of your pads or your pins so just don't put much-- any pressure at all really, on your iron. You're just trying to add solder to those pins, so-- oops, I just broke it off, it's very brittle stuff. Let me go around and add solder to all these pins, and we might come back. And then we'll go around and reheat this stuff. And see if that chip just lifts off. And here we go. The moment of truth, once again my iron is set to 280 degrees So I'll go around and heat up all these pins. Once again, being very careful not to put pressure on those pins at all. And going around keeping it all molten while supposedly [ sound of soldering iron scraping against pins ] I don't feel it coming yet. [ sound of soldering iron scraping against pins ] Nope, it's not coming yet. It seems to be staying molten on all sides, but uhh, nope. Maybe I need to give my chip a good wigg-- oh there we go, it's coming off! Woohoo, look at that! Look at that, beautiful! [ sound of chip dropping on board ] [ click ] Now that-- and you can see the solder is still molten there. Quite a few-- look at that, jiggle jiggle jiggle. Quite a long time after the fact. Because there's still a lot of thermal mass, I mean That's-- look at that. Wow. I could probably get rid of those balls actually. [ laughs ] But anyway, you don't want to do that. I don't care about this board, but if you wanted to you wouldn't do that, you'd get it all over your board! Look at that. But that stayed molten for an awful long time there, and look, even on the chip here, it's still molten but-- so that's, you know, like thirty seconds later or something like that, easily. Like, so getting it up to 280 degrees probably didn't need-- 280 degrees of course. So, we probably could have done that with a lower temp, just to avoid damaging the chip, especially if you wanted to reuse the chip as-- or something like that, you probably could umm, clean up those pins perhaps and reuse it, but geeze. Anyway, the whole idea is to get the chip off, so that you clean up the pads, solder on a new one. That's a win. Now to clean up these pads, ChipQuik recommend going around with a cotton swab and actually a low temperature iron and clean them up, dab isopropanol alcohol, clean them up that way. They don't recommend solder wick, but I'm going to use solder wick Iron, I've got it set lower to 250 degrees celsius, so some of this so, some of this we can just get rid of the big balls like that, easily. And, because it's still-- look at that, it's just beautiful, this stuff. Look, so you don't actually have to... use your solder wick to clean that up, just blob it all together like that, and then you can just peel that off. Let your solder mask do the work there, but then you'll want to go around, clean your pads. Do it using solder wick, the regular rules apply to -- very low temperature of course -- to ensure you don't damage any pads. I think we may have had one little pad damaged down there. Ah well, maybe it's a bit high, maybe I was accidently moved it with the iron, you know, actua-- accidently hit that pin with the iron or something like that. But anyway that's the first time I've ever used this stuff. It worked well. So as you can see, yes one little tiny pin in there is bent, so maybe I was-- my iron accidently touched that. Once again doing this under the camera wasn't probably optimal angle, I wasn't spinning my board around and stuff like that to get the optimum iron angle, but apart from that, there are no other pins lifted, so I declare that, folks, to be a win. Just have to clean up some of the pads, because one of the keys of reworking stuff like this is you need to get all of the solder off those pads, because you need it completely flat, as flat as you can get it, when you put your chip down again, especially for large pin-count fine-pitch devices like this one, so. And of course, this Chips Quick (sic) stuff is probably not ideal if you're doing you know mil spec or NASA spec soldering or something like that, because you've added this alloy-- check out that, sort of like a frosted sort of-- look at that. So you've added this unknown alloy to your solder, which is then going to be mixed on these pads. Even if you clean it off, there's still going to be some left on there, of-- so now you've-- even when you apply fresh solder flux and put the chip back on, you've still got some of whatever that alloy is left in your joints, and does that make them brittle, what does it do for long life tin whiskers, all that sort of thing. So, you know. But umm, you don't really have to worry about that for, you know, sort of hobbyist or one-off type stuff. It's only if you really take your soldering extremely seriously. And if you are using solder wick like this, don't make the common mistake of putting your soldering iron on and then dragging the thing across. That's bad, you're just going to lift the pads. You should go through and just dab each one like that, and then move along, move along. Yeah, it takes longer, but you're not going to lift those pins off! Because if you drag that abrasive solder wick across your pins, you're just going to lift them, really. Even if you've got a relatively low temperature on your iron. Don't do it. Even though I don't have a new chip to solder on, sorry I've already done soldering videos on a couple of different methods to do quad solder-- quad flat packs like this, using drag soldering also paste reflow method as well. So I'll have to link those in if you want to see them. But apart from that, there we go folks. We are almost clean, there's a little bridging there. Anyway, let's not fuss. And to clean all that flux residue off there, you can get in there with your isopropanol pad and I'd highly recommend getting your isopropanol PCB cleaning spray, you can just buy it, it's the same stuff, it's isopropanol alcohol or you can get the Fluxclene brand stuff and things like that. Clean it all up. And there's our leftover chip, and as you can see no pins damaged at all. Umm, you could you know-- aww there's a few pins pushed to the side or something like that, but in theory you could just get rid of that solder, wick that off and probably re-use that chip if you really needed to. Alright, I've got a little bit of practice on that, let's try it again in real-time. Little tiny quad flat pack here. Bit of flux on the pins. We'll do this in real-time. See how easy it is. Ah, it's a much smaller chip, so the thermal mass is, uhh, much smaller that we have to keep molten. So let's go in there, apply our solder on all sides. Oop. There we go. Be careful if you've got nearby passives of course, you don't want to-- don't want to lift those or cause an issue there. And where's my tool to lift up. [ sound of soldering iron scraping against pins ] There we go, gone. The good thing is, we can just lift the excess stuff off those pads no problem at all. And that was far too easy. Man, instant! I like this stuff! It works! And, as you can see I don't have much left after doing that quad-- that large 208 pin quad flat pack or-- and the smaller one. So, you know, it doesn't go very far at all, and really, you know, it's not cheap stuff. But it works absolutely perfectly. There's no damage to those chips, trivial to remove them. And that was not some practiced perfect soldering tutorial there folks, that was the first time I've ever used it on a large 208 pin quad flat pack. I didn't know what I was doing and it worked a treat! So certainly well worth having some of this stuff in your kit. Definitely. I'm going to buy some-- ahh, I've got some left, but I'll probably buy some more to keep in the kit just for those emergencies when you have to remove these chips-- types of chips and do it properly. Highly recommended! So, I hope you enjoyed that, if you want to discuss it jump on over to the EEVblog forum, and if you like these types of videos, please give them a big thumbs-up and I'll link in some of my other soldering videos as well, there'll be a playlist there, and I've got a whole bunch of them. Catch you next time. [ sparking sound ] captioned by sen
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Keywords: chipquick, how to, tutorial, chipquick solder, solder, soldering, desoldering, surface mount, surface mount desoldering, surface mount soldering, low melting point, lead, tin, bismuth, lead free, how to solder, removal, smd soldering, qfp, tqfp, qfn, bga, package, pcb, printed circuit, printed circuit board, component, pin pitch, fine pitch, alloy, chipquik, chip quik
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Length: 20min 47sec (1247 seconds)
Published: Sun Mar 10 2013
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