ECL Season 5: Qualifier #4 - Total War Warhammer 2 League

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now ladies and gentlemen we are back with the eternal challenger league season 5 qualifier number 4 and today here are our four finalists so in the first best of three it is gonna be Ludwig fifteen thousand facing off against king of the Dead and remember eternal challenger league is a pretty substantial amount of players I think today in total we had excuse me we had sixty players about sixty players playing today so these players had to fight through fire and brimstone to get here so it is Ludwig fifteen thousand facing off ian's king of the dead and then on the bottom side to the bracket and I gotta update this this one is act a little bit outdated this is actually to be determined so yes it is gonna be random NICs facing off against let's go ahead and look I believe they're still playing on the bottom side of the bracket but it's gonna be either flying taco or energized to energize actually did get to the finals of the last qualifier and did face off against Falcone in a pretty contestant series there so quite a bit of fun but now guys we're gonna be jumping into our first best of three of the day so let's get this party started and see how this unfolds so we're gonna be jumping to the scorecards here and loading in so it is gonna be king of the dead on norske facing off against his beloved undead so he is gonna be facing off against Ludwig 15000 who is going to be playing the tomb cakes so it should be quite a bit of fun start when ready no rush great so yeah this is interesting I mean if anyone is gonna know how to play against tomb Kings it's most certainly gonna be king of the Dead as that is his main faction there his main squeeze as they say come on wicked no wicked wicked is gonna be modding today he'll be hanging out in chat that was actually from the recent tournament I did the auto-generate event so I just forgot to update that one piece there Serena you always stream when I'm trying to cook hey man why not both you know put it on your phone while you're cooking it'll help you pass the time all is good what's going on blue thomas from australia representing what time is it over there i know it's a pretty substantial time difference between our two two lands but tomb King's first norske there's a lot of different ways you can go about this I mean oftentimes you're gonna see fat burning heads from norske that's one of the more kind of standard styles to play here on top of that troll builds actually do work pretty well here the trolls can get in there they can wreak new shop to you that can hold back the constructs and you know in great numbers with good micro you know they can be a pretty substantial threat you are gonna be loading into the first map it is going to be castle Drakon and kind of line of sight blocking for both players to utilize I would imagine that the build that King usually uses in this matchup is actually a couple new crop last nights which is just his play style most Tim Kings players like you rarely see them use but probably gonna be seeing double necropolis night if you work from King's side and then obviously casket of souls is really good two caskets are kind of weird like caskets can actually wreck trolls and infantry like they're pretty good against monsters troops yeah it's it's very very strange Chandler stone it is not my birthday but thank you yeah it's getting actually pretty close to my actual birthday which is gonna be July 12 anyone is wondering that is my actual birthday despite all these memes turn could you ever stream like 9 hours a day like legend does right now no because my hand is I have a hand problem I have a couple hand conditions that keep me from streaming that long but I'm actually getting surgery they had to move my surgery from July 6th to July 9th so I'm gonna be getting it there and hopefully that'll fix my hands and then after going through physical therapy and you know all that sort of good stuff you know hopefully I would I just won't have these issues anymore because I would love to stream you know five six days a week for 4 to 5 hours like that streaming is my favorite part of doing YouTube it's my favorite part yeah it is hello welcome to the stream guys you are here in time for the first battle of the day so let's go ahead and break it down so for the forces here we have king of the Dead with a berserker frontline so berserkers of course pretty high leadership so even if they have to fight constructs and monsters they hold in fight there you're almost undead eighty leadership base but of course when they actually start fighting and they get the buffs of having their flank secured and encouragement auras these guys aren't usually around 90 leadership which is pretty good four of those he does also have throg the troll king the troll daddy is here and as far as like matchups in which throg is you know really good I think Tim Kings is one of them he can fight the big concert Lords frostbite is very powerful so for example etc some of those other characters slip up and get out of position you frostbite is really good to be able to kind of uh lock them in place and allow your other assets to do work he's got a skin wolf where can the leader of the condom wolves and on top of that he does have the female fiend of fire for burning head in the back triple javelin which I think are better than the throwing axes him to because of the arcs of fire and the anti large and the range two groups of ice well chariots I think no I'm righto chariots actually so looking to penetrate into an archer line perhaps and a big old man score now for the horses of Ludwig 15000 quite an epic name for sure in the front here he does have skeletons fear secondaries gonna be tomb guard very much playing like a layered archer build he's got the Blessed Legion of Doom onit is a ssin here he does have skeleton archers and look at this double sepulchral stalker that's pretty cool for sure very excited to see how these guys play out there they're inside large their missile attacks are pretty disgusting can do a ton of damage and right now King of course it wouldn't be a king of the Dead build without his blessed hounds here so he does have norsk and war hounds as well as he piece attached to her but ludwig certainly has some pretty good assets to defend his battle lines on top of that he does have the big old sphinx who except here the near crows Fink's a throg in the where ken certainly not gonna be bad against his bad boy he's got to be careful though because he sepulcro stalkers kind of hiding in the shadows could do a bunch of damage here but nice charge by king a very good opening to the battle is able to get the two anti large characters on top of the Sphinx and do you know ten fifteen percent HP damage which is certainly quite nice such with the imperishable going to be trying to muck up the berserker charge but here you have the Marauder cherry it's actually pounding through the front lines and if you see this King is now gonna be rotating into the backline so these berserkers uh you know of course will win the front line engagements most likely maybe not in the center because of all the uh you know fire cars that went into that but for the most part pretty good stuff burning head going down as well burning head good to be going through the skeleton archers and wow that's it's a big damage but it might actually end up going through some of the hounds of King as well and it kind of does didn't do that much damage oh yeah it ended up going through and roasting his own hounds which is a little bit unfortunate as far as you battle goes pretty darn even at this point the chariots the Marauder chariots are really proving to be kind of the unsung heroes here in this matchup they're penetrating into the backline in like the thing is Ludwig is having to use his big assets to kill the chariots which means the other parts of the Norse can army like the berserkers and the hero kit throg in the where ken are pretty much free to do as they please which is certainly quite powerful here we have these skeletons fears still fighting and going strong and the sepulchral stalkers looks like they got caught in combat for too long with berserkers and got chopped down on top of that some really good focus are coming in from the broader hunters the javelins was able to do some decent work and bounce of power is still very even especially considering there is a new shop you summon I would say that King is currently a little bit ahead on the balance of power but this o shop you summon trapping throg in here a little bit is quite unfortunate for sure Ludwig is able to get like a surround on frog and or take out the bail fiend of fire that would just be a powerhouse play so throg is gonna be staying in here look at that getting ping-pong the skin wolf where can launches I mean he's the warble syndrome as well it's pretty well anyways javelins are still throwing for King which is a big problem for Ludwig that is good steady DPS and oh no a bit of a blob the Blessed Legion does advance too far forward and um and they get roasted by that burning head it goes through the spheres and also it's probably good to be coming into these battle lines which won't do too much I guess but Ludwig does a very good job here trapping the caster so through a shop do summon he is able to trap the veil fiend of fire and maybe that's why King decided to use the fire just assuming he was probably gonna lose this caster but anyways here skin Wolf's erican getting in there with those big old werewolf claws and also throg coming in with that good old steel club at the back and the Sphinx is just getting peppered by these javelins and the problem here for the tomb Kings is that many of their assets are going to be dissipating here especially the your shop team they're gonna be disappearing as a summoned unit and yeah the archers in the back are all kind of crumbling down berserkers still present there's some here and also some here as well but the javelins are just proven to be the huge MVPs I mean yeah the fighting of course throg in the where ken will do okay but the javelins have just single-handedly single-handedly but in conjunction with frog the where ken took down that huge threat right there which is super powerful so here we have the amatsu are coming in man scores you don't on the best day p-values but it's not monster and can do a couple hundred AP damage right there against the sector the imperishable and now cetera is going to be perishing is gonna be kabobs here by the Marauder hunter javelins and I don't see him lasting terribly long - Jeff's curse blades going down as well and it's gonna be another burning head you know it does affect leadership as well so if we're trying to crumble something but man a very very solid quick game by king of dead going up 100 here in this best of three series and the ecl grand finals or semifinals I should say of the qualifiers grand finals all es he says hey there any tips to pro army competition for Skaven versus orbs on a versus campaign Oh clinician you see when you when you say campaign it changes everything very dramatically in campaigning on you know what's crazy is clinicians gutter runners have AP and campaign so honestly you can use those I would just go with you know the gutter runners with AP to slow the Dwarven advance Giselle's poison win mortars and maybe like doom players and doom wheels and you'll be fine yeah you'll be fine Jordan Lavelle you're welcome man hopefully I can keep you entertained today for as long as a stream it does go so canyons gonna go up 100 a very very solid performance there good build good execution javelins were incredible good flanking it was just a really really good play but really I think the unsung heroes worthy Marauder chariots they really caused a lot of grief for that team Kings frontline and also got into the backline for Ludwig I did like his army but I don't think the soccer is performed maybe he wasn't able to get the good attacks but I mean I guess King didn't have too many good targets for them you know like if there were like trolls are from here they can wreck those guys but you know throg and we're kin were kind of like hiding amongst things and it was kind of hard to focus them down so very good execution King of the Dead coming in same stream sniped oh man no there was no lag either what is going on we're in like the twilight zone alright let's go and switch the map we can go to Gaul bra's you think all brought the map that's bugs I don't know if they ever fix that let's go to Jarek buffed our map set look have fun guys thank you for joining the stream that was our first best of three so as far as the turn amigos we do have this best of three another best of three and then a best of five grand finals for today's a big old qualifier which is going to be quite a bit of fun alright so Steve Olsen says getting on the multi attorney games you recommend learning to play with all factions I have four factions down so far honestly if you're playing in tournaments I mean it's good to have topical knowledge of every faction so you know what you're facing but generally speaking if you're good at three or four factions you're gonna be fine and I would say specialise in those factions like for me there's four factions I'm very confident with I'm pretty pretty good with Empire pretty good with chaos vampire coast I can play I can place cabinet Green skins like I have a couple that I'm pretty solid with but of course I'm not good at else right it's pretty hard to be super good at everything but yeah I would say just like develop three or four factions you're really good at and go from there I mean my two cents brother that would be my two cents so here we have Ludwick going Empire in banning lizard-men in green skin so what's gonna happen now is king is either gonna go he's not gonna go coast Coast is one of the few bad matchups vampire coast does have is actually facing Empire so I would imagine King will probably go with his tomb kings here yeah I think he's gonna go to King's yeah yeah he's going to Kings we could have seen vampire counts as well but he's more of a tim king coast guy than he is like a vampire count player sir hi guy thank you hello you are indeed a guy and a very generous guy indeed the dollar per pound ninety nine donation appreciate a minute do you think Nick I needs a rework yeah his camp his campaign is not that fun horde campaigns just kind of suck in general and my experience I mean they're kind of fun it's like gimmicks but I don't know although obviously I had some fun with the chaos campaign even though it was very outdated I did enjoy it for a while like the survival mode of things hey Pedro thank you for the fiber dude appreciate it it's not my birthday but that's cool man I'll take it thank you so much alright so players to do in their Jam right now yes yeah quick battles are quick battles are fine honestly though you're gonna get better games if you play in like the multiplayer community with the discards like that for example in the multiplayer discord I run there's constantly people you know playing and skirmishing skirmishing skirmishing screaming screaming there's constantly people skirmishing and playing and you know having a good old time in there and you're gonna get like people you're not gonna have to deal with like line camping and draw kiting and like other nonsense that you have to deal with and quick battles granted you know I jump on every now and then and play a couple quick battles but I would certainly recommend if you really want to get into multiplayer you don't hit people up in discord if nobody's there to play play some quick battles but if you can find someone to play with who's you know gonna be playing under tournament rules and you know not draw guy to you and line camping I would say that's better is there a list of good multiplayer maps yes there is there in if you go to my discord and go to the top of the pinned comments on the total war general there is a pinned comment that has a bunch of maps that are decent oh the next volt mark campaign hopefully soon I'm just kind of waiting for so tech yeah he's he hasn't gotten back to me in the past couple days so just waiting for him to get back to me and we'll go from there I'm gonna be starting another one though cuz I got the itch man I gotta scratch it I'm gonna be starting a head-to-head campaign with King of the Dead actually we're gonna be doing I'll be on Loki Rafael Hart he's gonna be probably on Luther harken here's our plan yes so that's the plan UCL is here indeed it is here guys king of the dead up one oh here in this initial game I know we got started pretty quick so apologies for people who's joining now you missed the first game and it was certainly a very good one a very solid showcase of some norsk in aggression and here we go there are a lot of matchups in this game yeah it certainly certainly gets a little bit crazy that's what makes it fun that's you know what makes it engaging and dynamic and more interesting to me than you know some of the historical titles in terms of PvP you know I was a match to the Shogun to fan Shogun 2 was probably my favourite like of all time in terms of aside from total world warrior which is my favorite Geoghan 2 would be my runner-up that game was so good yeah ladder does build character yes it does you know if you're looking to test your nerves and your patience it is a good place to go play alright guys so let's take a look at the bills here oh hell yeah Ludwig has been he's been taking notes man so I played I've been playing a lot with king of the dead and one of the few like I have to say like one of the Lords that consistently does well against King his fault part of the grim King actually does not like playing him at all so this is definitely King's kryptonite for anyone who's watching it's both rather grim and vote bargains Tim Kings might seem strange I mean but he gives you a really annoying sustainable body that can really push through you know all these skeletons and can absorb tons of firepower and he's really really tough to bring down you guys would be surprised I feel like volkmar is good like in almost every matchup which is insane yeah the Phil Hart memes back of course Harris with Han bows is crazy strong is it really I feel like you know going with because you have to remember my opponent dark Baphomet in the head head is gonna be king so it's not gonna be an AI army I'm fighting whenever I fight an army it's gonna be controlled by him so I don't know if the Corsair hanbô même stack will work as well yeah anyways so here for the Empire forces Sigmar sons there's flagellants sorry about that damn I was super loud it's like this person just always finds a way to call me later when I'm screaming all right perfect that shut down so now guys for the forces of the Empire it's going to be spearmen a couple groups of flagellants which I do appreciate in Sigma stones as well flatulence certainly do a decent job here taking grinds very very well again skeleton as you've seen in my head-to-head vs. otech they can take on endless undead it seems Volk where the grim is here as well he's got a most of buff's and does also have the Jade Griffin we have a symbol cannon in the back to shoot at the you shop Tigre bows and bone Giants triple hand gunner which I love I think hand Gunners are very underrated I think they're incredibly solid and a bright wizard with fireball and burning head certainly some very very good stuff indeed blessed Legion was actually used in the last game you actually saw them if you're just joining now we did see the busted Legion last game and they kind of got rekt by a burning head which I suppose is one of the downsides now for a king it's gotta be skeleton warriors into the sunset two groups of who shot seats who give some stopping power in the front line which will help again so it's flatulence which normally would just tear through the skeleton so having a little bit of armoured support certainly not bad to shop the a bone join as well bone giant is going to be a countermeasure probably against a great cannon it can usually out trade great cannons because of its HP pool of 9400 which is pretty insane for sure yeah we got Ark in the black and a tomb prints in the back King the cache the Scorpion Legion two groups of skeleton horsemen a little bit of Vanguard play as well we're gonna have some Empire Knights hidden in the trees and yeah we miss this when we were looking at Ludwig's army Empire Knights are so good they can actually like really mess with who shop tigre pose and also are a great roadblock again see Tim Kings harassed like skeleton horsemen down a car horsemen things like that so yes yeah locator does give some really good buffs for sure yeah head-to-head campaign really changes it though like things that normally work in regular campaigns like you got to change your game plan because you can't like just you know abuse the AI is like you know tactics and their willingness to sacrifice things for free so lewd way coming in for a fire ball and it is a direct hit on arc of the block doing about three four hundred damage which certainly is a good start if you can just BAM that fireball non-stop and eventually get Arkin down I'll be very very cost effective so now the Empire great cannons are singing into the shop key here doing some pretty good damage and unfortunately for King he's a little bit out of position his great boughs are having to run up this hill because there's a little bit of a great here a little bit of a slope and he's trying to get up there and get in range of the cannons maybe the great boughs I'm not sure maybe he's going after the cannon let's see yeah king of old man big shot from the chosen to the gods I guess that paid off it's got to watch out though hang Gunners here certainly gonna be in range to start blasting those who shopped you but the hill goes both ways they're on a little bit of a slope a new shop you are on the low ground here they are able to avoid a lot of that fire so certainly a little bit of a cat-and-mouse here in the situation but man King with the plays here he's able to snipe out the great cannon almost instantly that's brutal for Ludwig here so now Ludwig is going to be having to advance will of the dead finally beat his kryptonite will he beat volka Martha Graham we'll find out here on the next episode so now the Empire hand gunner is certainly doing some really good damage and where are the Empire Knights were they still being hidden no they're not so the Empire Knights taking an a very very aggressive posture gonna be looking to get into the backline and Empire Knights can defeat skeleton horseman and these other assets here and yeah King was able to break the great cannon and then from there he can use his skeleton horseman actually chased off the canyon of crew so that's a really really good grab for the team Kings now skeletons summon a little bit off kilter here he could have had it right on top of the hand Gunnarsson ludwig is a little bit blobs up here I don't know what he's trying to shoot I think he's going after the chosen to the gods and let's see if these brave sons of sigmar will lower their rifles and shoot it looks like he's going to be splitting up his formation into a more proper firing line but we do have the skeleton warriors rushing in some spears of sigmar gonna be trying to come in and salvage that but we'll see it looks like they will be shut down burning had going down to the front it's gonna be going down the skeletons of Hulk Martha Graham really causing a lot of problems running through the front line buffing up the state troopers and of course up helping the flagellants win their respective fights now some of the Empire Knights in the back of course have won their fights again skeleton horseman but for the most part it looks like King was able to stop them using the crossfire from the shop to great bows to really take down one group of Empire Knights but there are three in total which is quite impactful looks like a fireball going down an arc in the black once again I think that's gonna be a long-term game plan here for Ludwig really unfortunate losing that cannon crew that early that was a pretty disastrous I feel like if you're gonna go cannons against two kings you need to bring a couple but even still it's uh yeah it seems like King was expecting a cannon and really prepared for it out quite well now the battle is pretty even at this point that you shop see in the front line are the difference makers who can see here they were able to really put a ton of hurt on those flagellants and some of the you shop you are gonna be surging into the backline and King is also going to be using a new shop to summon right here to wreck these hand gunners and yeah really really good backline pressure but two hand Gunners are free one who shop he's able to chase those guys down are they gonna be able to get crossfire Ludwig definitely wants to he's gonna want to switch these hand Gunners and start shooting here with you shop do you just kind of kiting until you can drag them through the mud a little bit but honestly the backline rasp for Ludwig is doing okay some of the empire Knights are of course getting some decent shock damage and causing you shop to great bows to at least have to you know do something else other than shoot at some of the high-value targets in the army and bring down hand Gunners not characters things like that another fireball coming in once again is it gonna get blocks it looks like it's going after Arkin or the Tim prints it looks like it does get blocked here on the shop t summon which is really unfortunate for Ludwig certainly taking a pretty substantial blow and hand gunner is getting a little bit of crossfire that you shop do summon will be disappearing here in about 30 seconds so there's still ample time on that bad boy this is honestly a really close battle the thing is is like yeah it's going pretty well but they're still you know 87 Sigma Suns 36 flagellants here Volk Martha Graham is healthy the bright Wizards healthy and King is able to stabilize his back line Ludwig doing a very good job pressuring here despite losing his cannon early and having his hand Gunners just chased into the sunset the spearmen with shields chasing the shop T is great there's some Empire Knights back here who could come back and volkmar the grim is burning through the witches and certainly having a pretty good time going after arcing the black who is weak to fire damage what more does do fire in with the bandit hammer of sigmar he can actually get some reasonable duelist stats now the back spearmen still chasing Empire Knights here for Ludwig sitting idle but certainly could be brought back and King definitely needs to get these skeleton horsemen back online make sure to finish off the hang Gunners and it looks like he is going to use shop to summon and these are actual actual shop G so are these yeah pretty much the entire handgun line is offline it's just going to come down to Voltron the bright wizard and the infantry blob of the Empire it's gonna be a very very scrappy game indeed and Gunners are really good but you have to allocate more resources to protecting them you know I think maybe had there been like one Empire knight in the back line defending the hand Gunners that could have been much more cost effective I do actually am a big advocate of bring me hand Gunners in this matchup so here the bright Worcester could to be jumping in and he's also buffed by the hammer of sigmar so this bright wizard is rocking 49 melee attack I'd actually be able to get our can the block down a little bit but I think cycle charging and casting fireball is the right choice but the unbreakable Empire infantry certainly are no joke Sigmar son still have 65 models here these who shop you're being chased into oblivion by the Spearman you know you could actually get the right wizard and go after the shop UFOs here but yeah this is this is really good for Ludwig really really good for sure he's doing a great job with that so here comes the mighty bright wizard jumping onto the chosen to the gods and a banishment going down as well not really sure what that banishment was about maybe he's trying to hit the chosen to the gods but I've never seen banishment do that much against like monsters infantry and things like this but the Empire of course volt Martha Graham still going deep he's not going to break easily and he's in come back here with the chimp print some skiers are searching forward as well the thing is King has a lot of ammo for sure he's got the UH the great bows here he does also have the bones I'm but I think the Empire isn't a slight state of advantage I mean the you shop T's back here are getting worn down by some empire Knights we have some coming back but oh no this is really really bad for Tim Kings hand Gunners are back online which is really big even a small group of hand Gunners like this can be all the difference in winning a battle and I'm telling you guys the the Kryptonite of King is is Volcom or the gram somehow and my my head-to-head campaign with him I will find a way to get Volk where in my army even though I'm playing dark oh so confident the Volk barrage is raid bossing it right now he's so good harissa the JAF going down I'm gonna be nullifying the stats and this is good here though he's getting a little bit of crossfire some of the gray posts are back online and shooting into this empire blob maybe the bone giant gonna be able to snipe out the caster that actually pretty good to just get a freebie on the caster here but now the big ol giant is gonna be getting assailed here and it looks like arc of the block is on the run freakin 112 HP that is ludicrous he's gonna be crumbling down yeah there's no way to save him I mean maybe maybe if he can get back somehow nope looks like he's done down for the count I'm gonna go fight some flagellants oh when he stabilizes with two HP what is this witchcraft if he gets another skeleton summon off that could be one of the few ways the tomb Kings could do open which brave flatulent will take him down oh and the bright wizard coming in the back and the horse Canter's and tosses him off and I think that's game I think Ludwig's got this one very well played you know suffering a brutal loss in the beginning losing that great cannon just for free basically and then you know having them charge into a firing line of two Kings he did a very good job so very well played to Ludwig and guys we have a series on our hands it's one-one king winning the first game Ludwig winning the second will king with the dead advance or will Ludwig 15,000 of clan BBB head on over to the finals volt bars not gonna break that is very true he is a raid boss if you don't deal with him he's certainly bites you in the butt later in the game but he's very tough to side with missile resists and magic resist spirit Lee JZ spirit leeching him isn't great you know unless you really commit he's kind of like a Hydra in that way yeah well played well played indeed so guys we got a 1/1 series here on our hands that came certainly very contested very very close but the might of sigmar is too much to handle I loved it and now let us go ahead and switch it's so funny I was like I played like like two or three Empire games with King with volkmar the other day and he's like please stop playing volkmar please like he just does not like playing um it's so funny alright GG hey King did you like volkmar let's see what he says in response to this oh man he's gotta have a response here alright so for the next map let's do oaken hammer we should probably do one that's a little bit different right says red deserts kind of a weird map alright oh man here we go let's see what chaos plays be a chaos please map yeah I'm set all right perfect Bubba's big blast easy to bright wizard yeah the betraying bright wizard I mean he wasn't betraying anyone but I guess the backstabbing aspect of things is pertinent to your quote there yeah oh boy I haven't been able to catch a turn stream live for two years James that's a long time brother this brings me back it does indeed welcome to the stream it's good to have you back man it's good to have you back two years that's a long time dude damn I've been married for two years my boy sounds off today that's weird does this voice sound different to you guys or is it just uh mister Hajek who thinks that and I'm a little bit tired to be honest uh yeah I don't know I thought my voice on thermal let me know guys let me know maybe it's something with my microphone maybe the audio levels are off check the rules to make sure Oh Eddie I know you gotta have some fun man you got to have some fun anyone able to link to discard yeah some of the mods in here if you guys could drop a link to the discord now be greatly appreciated to my multiplayer discord sounds fine cool perfect guys sounds sexy great glad to hear that lovely as always it's not good oh man it's kind of an inside joke between him and I so yeah it's very funny King when we play our head-to-head campaign I'm gonna make a military alliance with volkmar the grim all the way across the ocean and coax him into coming and attacking your vampire coast it's happening dude all right so it's gonna be vampire counts Lizard Men and green skins no vampire coast the lizard minute green scan so now ludwig bands one and picks and then king picks from his remaining two factions is easy third process here is there a qualified persons list yes there is so let's go and take a look so for anyone who's wondering about the format of the eternal challenger League we basically have eight weeks of competition each week we have someone qualify for the grand finals and then we have the grand finals which is a big old thick eight-man tournament and yeah we go from there so if we go to the faction war one sec here guys actually more bracket player list here we go so in Week one we had slack salon sue Sarah qualify anticipated week two and fell con in week three so today is going to be dictating the fourth qualifier in our eight-man tournament one two three four five six for a second I was like wait do we have nine spots here let me a little bit suspicious wouldn't it yeah it was those are the players that have qualified so far so the players are fighting for a spot here today and yeah that's it and if you're looking at the eternal challenger League the history it's been dominated by one man the myth the legend so if we go to the ECL Hall of Fame we've had Falcone win season one three and four the only purse Wyn aside from falcon in my journal challenge league has been zyphus i posted when season two he did a very very good job and for the faction war Hall of Fame for the faction war we have two lakhs on soothsayers Empire with the first one lizard man with Falcon in the second one scab and with Hades in the third faction war vampire coast with antecedent in the most recent one so we certainly had some very very fun competitions recently which is quite a bit of fun yeah we're doing it man so Ludwig will pick and ban one so Ludwig ban one and pick just going to make sure they're clear on the rules and everything I know Sarmatian I agree it's it's there's there's a few things better than that and part Knights are just so good so good some good old sparkly water good for the soul so he's gonna pick green skins and ban vampire it's okay so now you know lizard man actually do have a good matchup against green skins I think I have a couple builds for lizards that I think are very very strong here so King has the option of either playing a mirror match with green skins or going lizard men yeah King you need to use your legs which dude you need to it's time it's time to pull it out of your drawer oh my god a mere match no okay don't do it I'm too weak if you wanted to troll me back he could but yeah that lag is just extra thinking time yeah that's a very philosophical approach to it yeah lizard man I have a good matchup here I think I actually think it's one of the better ones for lizards I mean stuff it's an even matchup yeah I know green skins got some really good tools I mean the rampage effect is so powerful but you know what's really funny about rampage is that lizard men don't really care if scars Nick uses fermented fungi on a big monster if you're playing lizard man and you know you're a pretty quick player you can just use cold blooded and cancel it out instantly like it just nullifies that which is hilarious so if you have like a salon and you know asking chief or something whatever a scar veteran you can cold-blood to get out of the rampage which is really really funny extraordinary man or is yeah I would say that you know the tournaments at we host hear the tournaments you see hosted by many other creators not creators in salary but just you know people in the community that is the pro scene for sure and I mean you know we pay prize money so I guess that kind of is what qualifies it for you know quote unquote pro play so yeah absolutely there's there's so many great hosts out there tournament hosts I could I could go through them and maybe I'll do a video on that it's like for people looking to get into tournaments like where to find them outside of my community yeah yeah like for some of the tournaments you know we'll have like a 400 500 you know 800 thousand dollar prize pool and you know that's that's pretty good considering it is a smaller community or a smaller scene I suppose yeah war wagons ROP shooting version of Empire nights where wagons are okay I actually like them against chaos every now and then they have their niches like if you're worried about being like caught by like you know hounds and things like that they're they're durable so yeah Creative Assembly does do that ever chosen I mean we we created that with Creative Assembly but yeah because the game is like predominantly has always been more of a single-player game with like a you know niche multi player communities but you know it certainly has grown a lot in Warhammer yeah yeah I think any pride had to turn him in today granted I think it was modded I think it was a modded tournament and balance balance becomes very very crazy when you start adding mods yeah yeah absolutely so that's it guys Jake says as someone who recently got into multiplayer seen a condensed video explaining general tourney rules would be nice yeah sure I can do that I could definitely do that so it's gonna be lizard so it's gonna be King versus Ludwig's greenskins it looks like he is ready you know king sending a message here saying hey man I'm ready are you you know trying to get that first click in there thanks for today most appreciate that yeah it was an SFO attorney yeah that's what it was yeah it becomes a different game in many ways right like the unit's changed drastically and you know I think there's some cool aspects to it but I prefer vanilla I feel like it's much more balanced grandma says it's balanced that's cool different balanced not unbalanced oh that's good to know yeah I've never even put too much time into I'll definitely trust your guys's opinions but usually when I'm in generalizations what I'm talking about moderate gameplay usually does become unbalanced if you're using mods but you know maybe SFO has better balance I don't know is it a multiplayer modders it more focused on campaign wanna Rosco I heard on the recent video of yours you mentioned Jun BJJ do you train what affiliation are you with fellow grappler going crazy missing the mat so yeah about two years ago before I moved back to Los Angeles oh my hands weren't as bad as they are now and I did do Brazilian jiu-jitsu at it was called guerilla jujitsu in San Jose oh I forget I didn't do it for long though only like six months six months to a year give or take and then my hands got so bad cuz I was doing YouTube working full-time and grappling and I had to stop I was okay but I will get back into it once I am able to get my hands back yeah yes alright guys and here we are Marissa demos saying from what I heard spellcasters are crazy Opie and SF oh yeah I tuned in to his tournament today to watch her a couple minutes and I saw the Grail Knights have liked like 12 models or 15 models and had like 150 weapons rank I mean it's very cool from a lore perspective yeah I'd be curious to check it out but I prefer more of the vanilla experience to be honest yeah Flying Dutchman says I'd call SFO very unbalanced and unlawful but to each its own okay yeah okay we got a lot of opinions here that's for sure anyways guys back to business let us go ahead and take a look here it's gonna be Cyrus Warriors with shields oh my god it's a dread saurian oh the hero King wanting to get to the finals making a statement with a mighty dread saurian oh baby that's awesome so frontline Cyrus secondary line is cohort support which gives you a little bit of poison poke against you know savage work begins things like that you know can focus on the Giants as well here we have some red crested skanks Inc support on the flank it is gonna be to head o in on the engine of the gods what madness is this Gehenna wind is coming in with a Manticore summon flock of Jim and of course the giant beam of doom I really really really really hope that King is able to get that off here man that's gonna be super exciting over here we do have the feral dread Sauron and it is also going to be a Bastila Don with a solar engine and that is going to be it and now for the forces here of the green skin so who shall be led by Ludwig 15,000 solid name it's gonna be a zag the slaughter with the just fear leech is certainly very helpful for taking down the big monsters frontline is gonna be goblins mixed with goblins and goblins and goblins second line is orc boys so going for a very wide infantry Corps not looking to beat down the infantry fight more to just swarm them it's gonna be savage our carrier boys with the rusty airs in the back here we also hammer of gorg stone troll stone trolls and some Spider Riders so three stone trolls in total certainly very good against some of the big monsters don't trolls have heavy AP values but are not immune to psychology I'm nervous unless there is a bob near by Bob of course helps and Bob is the black work big boss which is cool you know the dread sorry it against greenskins is an interesting choice I it could goon out the stone trolls pretty well I mean the dread serine hits very hard and has massive AP values and it's very mobile - there's no rampage or slowing effects here and the screens can army no skulkers no gorkel fix it so you know the dread starting with good micro could be quite scary yeah and an engine of the gods man this is wild so as that getting blasted nice shot here by this laser Dino here in the back able to rip a shot here and yeah that's the thing that King doesn't have to engage if he doesn't want to he can simply use he pistol it on to just kind of zap but the thing is is a green skins do also have a hammer of Gork here in the back hammer of Gork will eventually get good value against ours which might out value the DPS at the pistol at on Kent so I think advancing here is probably the proper choice but man that uh that engined the gods that engine of the gods is going to be insane yeah this is gonna be they're gonna be nuts you know the one thing I see some people in chat talking about campaign mods and things like that one thing I would actually like to do would be to get a mod they just like adjust the balance of power for siege battles I just like God or do something with siege battles it's just like my least favorite party campaign him I was like it's like a chore you know yeah Stephani chore anyways guys the front line is going to be moving forward so we are gonna have the clash of the Sarris ours should be done goblins and or poised pretty handedly especially with the engine of the Gods running rampant well the archer line is going to be the biggest threat here to the dinos but there is a bit of a threat overloaded to hena win plus a feral dread sorry and I mean that is a lot of stopping power for sure so we're aware is as I could to be going is he going to be going into the front line probably not I think he's going to be trying to spear at Legion goon out to hand a win with some stone trolls or something and spirit Lee just going down and when are we going to see the engine of the gods you know it's coming in man the dread soar you just doing so much damage in the front but that tread sorry needs to pull back it needs to run it can't afford to take all that focus fire and oh my god it's gonna happen oh come on Ludwig let us see this boys hey you know what he's still dodged it well played the Ludwig but at least we got to see a little bit of damage from that ability cuz that thing can one-shot stuff for sure now a good play here from King he did pull back the dread saurian and now is reengaged on the stone trolls and stone trolls will get rekt pretty bad especially with the Tsarist support here on the ground and Gehenna one has some in a Manticore as well and is in mortal combat here with the big old uh-oh king of the lag he hit the lag switch he wasn't joking a little bit of lag here guys but uh it gives us a moment to kind of admire the glory of the battlefield but interesting choice here you can see that Ludwig is actually putting all of his docket into the vasila bond with the solar engine okay they're just saying good luck have fun that's so funny but as far as the battle goes I think it's pretty even maybe a little bit lizard favored the stone trolls getting rekt here is very very impactful as Ike hasn't done too much yet to handle win is super healthy and the back line with the manticore summoned shutting down rusty errors is quite brutal indeed and the dread saw being able to just mincemeat those stone tools man I mean took them down to almost half health very very quickly here so now the archers are in a little bit of trouble to handle win is quite a tanky character pants help being use on him to give him some physical resists but he is taking some daca for sure and as I could come in as well as that goes great a p-value so this is a chance for Ludwig to kind of out get his bearings back on this game if Ludwig is able to get to Hannah with low enough I think that could be very very huge nice block of doom as well and now Tana one is gonna be be lining over here engine to the gods coming in and going after The Saboteur Care boys with the dread saurian and that's the thing right if King just focuses down the archer line none of this Haggard greens can infantry is going to be able to you know fight the big monsters I think he just needs to focus on killing the archers in for Ludwig just continue getting those good gooning opportunities and try and stabilize your archers if Ludwig is able to get a zag and you know eventually we're down to n when man 1001 is like far from the grave and the dread sorry and of course has a huge age people as well above 9,000 right now which is pretty crazy so now let's turn around as egg is like screw this [ __ ] I am out of here I'm gonna be running there's a summon Manticore going after him as well I think using the dread soaring to finish off the stones rolls is certainly quite good um lizard still have a fair amount of infantry cohort of so check here Sarris warriors in okay shape a zag is running for the skies and what did the greenskins have as far as infantry goes and some goblins kind of lurking around and you know what Ludwig has gotten his archers back online Salvador care boys are free here these ones in the back though rusty air is all they need is one or two goblins to really get their value sewn Joel's men Stone Cold's are such a good unit such good ap and if you don't really finish them off they come back they heal cause you a lot of problems honestly this game is very very close the bounce of heart is harshly falsely and plated due to the fact that King does have a Manticore summons on the battlefield the wall is now active that's gonna be a huge boon here I think uh King probably needs to fall back he needs to get his head wound back here and like you know just fall back on top of his formation oh my god are we gonna get it the engine of the gods round two Luba catches it just in time but it still takes out a couple of those or care boys you can see a little bit of an HP drop there but you know at the very least it is something that forces back the archers right it definitely does a decent job of that but the lizards need to kind of a solidify on top of something form a bit of a blob I think cohort of so tech is certainly a good one to do that with and samsaris and things like that granted the feral dread Serena's not rampaging but not before it uh pretty much terrifies all the stone trolls off and if Kane were able to find something in the back here if you were able to get the skin cohorts and chase off the stone trolls that would probably be a guaranteed win for him now the greenskins are starting to crumple they are getting a little bit worn down guys I don't know it's looking looking like a close game balance of power comes back because the stone trolls came back okay so the bounce power was lizard favourite and then suddenly when the stone trolls I mean so much is banking on these guys there's 11 here it looks like there's 10 here that is a lot of stopping power and over here we do have some stone trolls running for the hills as well King really needs to be on point with chasing them off or at least you know pressuring them yeah here's a nice play be able to get the cohort of so tech only 22 of these look at this 22 of these brave skanks are able to chase down these stone trolls that is insane and the abyss fill it on with the solar engine is still operational as well if they keep breaking they will eventually shatter which would be quite painful to anyone who's getting danger low though 1100 HP and I think as egg is still kind of healthy and not really almost getting blasted again 2200 HP here the Jets are unicel rampaging and the dread saurian is gonna be a unholy terror in the night to deal with and that's for sure are the trolls gonna get chased off is king gonna be on point with that it looks like many of the trolls are coming back which is a big problem for the lizards here granted the cohort is so tech is these guys are just the heroes that Gotham needs that's for sure they have good ap but there's only 20 of them left and the stone trolls might be able to turn around or just clobbering time them the skanks were a little bit late to the party and it looks like some of the trolls make stabilize I think bringing a Bastila Don and/or Gehenna one over here could save it and he's shaken stand-your-ground pans Pelt activated here this is a good play I would definitely take two hena one over here and trying to tear out these trolls and break them once again because from there maybe the dread Sauron can carry it's gonna be hard to say there's soul samsaris around the battlefield Ludwig has been doing such a good job just like rallying all of his forces so these trolls do get terrified and now Tana Wynn is certainly on death bed as a zag is a very very mean duelist he is poison but yeah enough to break to Hanuman that's for sure so lizard Moses is gonna be running foothills these trolls are wavering but man if Ludwig can just play it safe and let all of his trolls were generate and just pick off all of the green-skinned assets not green-skinned about lizard Ben assets with the exception of course of the dress wearing probably save that for later I think he'll be okay so Nisa soin trolls close to breaking once again the Bustillo Don I think he needs to just kind of a bunker up I think if the biz still it onto the soros and all these guys can form a Death Star at this point the greenskin archer line is kind of non-existent and i think it could be enough to maybe break the leadership of the trolls really good player though azog is chasing off getting some damage oh but a blast in the back from Gary the solar engine able to blast a zag huge damage coming in that is really really solid for sure stone trolls are shattering that is the potential turning of the tide if the stone trolls are broken you don't so many times oh there's one skank in here this brave skank look at him I'm one man against the world oh okay well that was anticlimactic right as i zoom in he just goes down poor little guy anyways here are some trolls are going in dread sorry definitely needs to save that solar engine but you can see they're wavering gear so enrols just do not like being near terre causing monsters i mean they're very stupid so much roles are kind of like I don't know I'm trying to think of an example you know how like if a I've seen them like survival shows like you you know people running into what like bears and you know sometimes in like trails and things like that if you make like a loud enough noise the bear will just run instead of knowing it could easily take you right but if you make a loud enough kind of primal noise the variable you know not always but often times will run right I don't know if that's actually like a hundred percent the case but it's kind of like how trolls are function but how they function right and this balance of power is just back and forth yet the vasila dawn needs to be saved that is a huge terror causing monster that would be very very good here look at this a freaking hammer of Gork is still going here that is crazy some of the kinks are trying to shut it down but the hammer of Gork is actually AP damage and it looks like the stone trolls are they gonna be able to save it is he gonna be able to save them still it on the the dread sorry it's going in strong is it faster it's got 60 speed against the 50 something of the stone trolls in yeah they're not gonna last long probably against the big beastie here oh that's so much damage shaken negative for leadership and they're terrified but this is really good play from Ludwig man he's able to chase down that that solar engine pretty effectively and the skanks are here they're broken yeah the only thing left is the is the feral dread saurian it's the only thing so King is basically just gonna be going after archers here I would imagine oh my god this is just a ludicrous game in the back we have some lizards coming back in so we have the skin cohorts definitely going after the archers isn't a bad idea it is a feral dread soaring so it's leadership isn't the best I think that King might have been able to take this if he had centralized his forces earlier like kept the beast alone with you though the big boy here but it's certainly not over the dread saurian is not gonna be an easy easy prey especially if there are some skanks coming back you might be able to get on that hammer of Gork we will see yeah and you can see like the whole greenskin army is like this could be one of those games that you think is over and then suddenly like a mass leadership route just happens and that's just like oh oh okay then Ludwig no definite wants to collect his forces man this is uh yeah Jake try it try it there try it out let me know how it goes yeah I mean the greenskin army shattering stone trolls that's something a nice spear at leech though all he has to do is break the leadership of the dread saurian that's it this is probably gonna be master outs across the board oh my god his his treads aren't gonna carry this game they would be ludicrous it's steady now to 243 kills you know people laughed at the dread soaring but this guy has been a playmaker this whole game yeah he goes with Archer and he shatters them a ton of the greenskin forces shattering oh my god the dread sorry it is unstoppable hammer of Gork I think he's gonna be shooting at it it looks like he's trying to get it back online or oh the rusty errors are coming back into that's useful so dread sorry in his rampaging right now oh my god this game is so close this is gonna be determining who goes on to the grand finals I don't know if the greenskins have like enough stopping power left to kill the jet sorry and the archers are like wavering just from shooting they're like screwed I don't these prehistoric beasts yeah and now it's kind of stuck in combat here with some work boys work boys they're holding pretty firm which is huge buying some time for the very beat-up archers here blue twig to get their money's worth they're probably gonna tear out themselves now the dread sorry and of course is rampaging and rampage I think actually comes with a couple trade some luck I forgot nothing you get some gold can't remember oh he's not ready paging anymore so I can't really check so dread soaring deftly is gonna want to finish the central's just like charge them right now King definitely needs to intercept them if he can and here they come the Jets are you moving in and the Central's uh getting punted in a couple directions 3,000 HP as AG is like lurking but he's got to be careful if as that comes in and gets like one shotted by you know the big old dread sorry and I think now is this time to strike though if you can break its leadership he just wins negative to negative 14 negative to negative 6 oh and Ludwig breaks it oh man what a game what a frickin game that is insane well played the King and Ludwig what an amazing series between these two fine players so King of the Dead is defeated by Ludwig in a very tightly contested match I'm sure we'll see King back next week to attempt mollify again Ludwig will advance on in our four-man bracket and who advanced on the other side of the bracket let me go ahead and check that all right I'm just gonna check this real quick guys so it's flying taco ok flying taco defeated energized and now he's gonna be facing random nicks so random and flying taco if you guys are watching go ahead and join the same lobby if you could go to the four-man bracket will update the TBD which is now the flying taco alright there we go and now king of the dead stay there and Ludwig will advance on well-played man that was that was a great series holy holy goodness well played oh ok I didn't get the chat with him but that's not a problem everything looks good man that saurian was was quite scary for sure guys it was very very scary so now let me go ahead and tag taco and random NYX get those guys good good to go go join up rabbit incest a turn really enjoyed your homebrew mono black deck yesterday on stream any chance you could do a build video sure yeah maybe I'll do that maybe I'll do another magic stream and I can we can go from there right so random NYX is here so let me go ahead and update the name plates and then we'll look at this party started and he's gonna be facing off against stuff flying taco you said scores update and this app is so useful for updating the score cards I have to say although it doesn't it kind of struggles with the sizing but you know I could do that myself I can do some things myself very good so random is here flying taco is on his way over also turn let's see to her holds is dangerous alright sounds good but was a big blast yeah man that game was that came with something dread sorry and certainly gets a lot better with healing ten one is actually did okay though he will see who's got a raid bus via had there been like a of life and then maybe like another regular kind of monster Stein oh yeah it could have been better I actually really liked you salamanders in that matchup because they wrecked the stone trolls I can do really well against them but they're firing inside large grants and some trolls do have good armor so they take it a lot better than you know the alternative a razor Don's can actually do okay - all right so let me make sure both players are good to go here we go all right so for the map let's go ahead and get the map switched guys what map have we not had for Calvin cold us is kind of a janky map to be honest with the irons and others some of the classic map set you hey guys I'll be back in just a second just need to take care of some real quick [Music] you alright guys I'm back and just had to take care of some stuff real quick in Houston we're all set alright so random Nicks is gonna be going coasting he's banning Empire and war certainly the two counters and aside from that coast has decent matchups across the board imagine if his s'long could ride a staggered on that'd be pretty metal for sure just like floating above it yeah I mean pretty neat a life salon riding a staggered on that is riding a dread saurian just all three of them stacked on top of each other because I'm fairly certain add red sari and could carry you know stuck it on I don't know hey Chronos thanks man glad you're enjoying the tournament total we're certainly fun man that's not so cool about multiplayer it's like there's so much replayability with how many matchups are and also like that in conjunction with campaign there's so much to do in this game with lizard mini tyranids I mean I don't know it's I always feel like the 40k factions would win just because like there's so much more kind of vast and scale and power I'm trying to think of like a faction I don't know the thing is like I wonder if like a Warhammer Fantasy like I feel like like a scab and gun line could like fight materia needs you know cuz like the the warp lightning cannons would still be very effective against a big period monsters like escape and I feel like good I mean maybe like Empire with like hell blaster ball guns and cannons and like magic I don't know it's hard to say because the magic and fantasy is quite powerful so random Nixon chat saying he played this matchup twice today so he's certainly very practice but flying taco is uh I don't know if you guys remember flying tacos glorious white lion build we saw so he brought the Narnia build which was all white lions and and war lines of grace and yeah so much stuff here add red sari and carrying a purse for Ripper dactyls and they just like jump off and attack things oh my god that'd be so great me cloth says add red sari and chariot went oh my god add red sari and pulling add red sari and pulling a salon in a chariot in the salon it's just like blasting magic as it drives by that would be so cool taco says oh that's not good for me I'm in danger that's pretty funny alright alright one sec guys very good we're all set all's good in the realm guys we're just kind of hanging out until they're ready good luck have fun to my flying Mexican food partner man Mexican food is so good all right III don't know if I could even say it like what my favorite food of all time is I really do enjoy some pierogi all right just say like having like a doughy like pierogi with like some meat in it oh god there's like few things that can top that really do you like Chinese food Mexican food though quite a bit sake vault pulling a chariot yeah that'd be interesting man yeah we are on the second best of three so for anyone joining there was a single best of three a really good series between king of the Dead and Ludwig which I has just concluded so now we're on the bottom half of the semi-finals it's gonna be random NICs against flying taco and a best-of-three and the winner will be going on to face the finalists which I suppose some of you guys may go back and watch that so it won't spoil it right now yeah yeah that's that's like one of the best parts about living in Southern California like I mean LA has a lot of downsides to it Jonathan Kelly thank you for the donation the two buckaroos saying happy birthday stream it's not my birthday but thank you I'll take it thank you so much man limit that mean that meme has been really strong normally like when we have a meme on like the streams it like dies after a couple weeks but that one has really really stated you know stood the test of time as they say yeah like LA has a lot of annoying things like super high rents there are some areas that are you know quite unsafe yeah it has a lot of issues let's just let's just kind of leave it at that but man the food in Los Angeles is like so good I don't know like I've never lived anywhere it's just that has food that's as good I look at in Northern California huh it is I'm talking about like localized food though in a city and his mom is such a damn good cook Oh God the Christmas feast we have they're so good I'm so good and tasty grilled cheese is your favorite call you simple hey that's fair play grilled cheese is delicious think about it the imperium with their space brains Imperial Guard Inquisition a deafness mechanicus and sorority house have trouble stopping the Tiernan's so the thing is it's like I'm not talking about the galactic scale so much of like good lizard man fight tyranids it's more like if you had like a relatively equally equal sized force of Tiran it's fighting you know lizard men yeah cuz obviously if you go on a galactic scale like yeah of course nothing could like two feet tyranids and all that stuff right like in fantasy but if you say if you're saying like alright I have like 20 gene stealers fighting twenty Sarris warriors you know the Tsarist Warriors might have a chance cuz they're they're huge and strong and have like you know are pretty powerful in combat yeah yeah all right guys we're getting started perfect yes the iron sand desert is here it's a good map the classic one yeah it'd be interesting I mean I think some of the fantasy races yeah it becomes more of a scale thing but you know it's funny because like yeah like 20 Sarris warriors might be able to defeat like you know some genes fillers or whatever right but then like what happens if you have like twenty Sarris warriors fight twenty Space Marines zero chance like zero chance the Space Marines would destroy them like horribly yes guess gaben can probably go to space yeah a single planet can stop a gene so they're called a hive splinter happens all the time plot armor can defeat the Tiernan's that's very true the most recent space rain box set can defeat the cheerdance all right guys let's go and take a look at the armies back to Warhammer so here flying tacos gonna be coming in with checklist and Thecla says you know one of the better casters in the game if you just bring him on his horse with these sort of tech let's he has a tonne of wounds of magic is quite insane for sure very very cool stuff indeed and now for the front line here it's gonna be white of Grace who performed pretty well because a lot of people don't know this aside from being armored the Lions of Christ also do have pretty good missile resists of 30% so against you know firing lines they actually are somewhat durable he's got some Rangers and Spears mixed in shadow warriors which are quite cool because even if they get caught by hounds or bats they can actually hold their own unlike archers and a bunch of Reavers into the sunset with some silver homes it's a classic army very very good stuff for sure I dig it I dig it indeed yes caving in space would be quite funny for sure and now guys we are here we have random Nicks with the quad and mortars which are certainly a very much a countermeasure against Archer spam and that is someone comment sometimes in this matchup you'll see I actually played against Lotus moon a while back and I think he brought something like you know five or six login.c guards and regular archers like he had a ton of archers and and Reavers basically and the mortars are very good against that style of play but again Shadow Warrior is an infantry rush with you know white lines I don't know how effective it'll be grant stated random NYX does also have his gunnery mobs here in the back random NYX has represented vampire coast of my faction Wars and has done very well for himself he does have the deck and mobs he's got bombers here the mortals are a sweeper piece haven't the morgels here is definitely nice that's gonna give him something to actually stop the white lines with I know that same note you know flying talk is gonna need to get the shadow workers to really pick those guys apart we gotta count novelist we got some hounds some deck trappers was just the pistols here to shoot at Reavers and things like that and that is pretty much it you like yeah you know mana I normally don't even like traveling like I actually dislike it like I'm kind of a homebody as they say but um you know this lockdown is making me kind of want to take Ana somewhere and get some delicious food yeah correct alright guys notice time lettuce party see if the mighty lines of Christ can sing tonight no war lines here today I was expecting some Lion King from the taco but I think he's coming out pretty serious here in the first game he's obviously gonna have to advance because there's tons of orders and count knock tolls as well as up on his mighty crow's nest Cantona Hills has some really really good stopping power for sure he's gonna be targeting knocked all is probably going after silver helms and or the white lines is probably gonna be the way to go some of the deck shoppers will be scooting forward the initiative to advance is going to be on the aisles of course as the mortars and calculus do count as attacking here in the situation yes all this talk of food and Chad is making me quite hungry my dad actually lives in New York City so I've been there quite a bit over the course of my adult life and yeah definitely some good pizza there I love that yeah delicious stuff so the boarders are out of range mortars only have I think 300 something range 380 so it's not like a great cannon so obviously they're not gonna be able to shoot quiet yeah but this is yeah this is a good time here for the forces of random mix he really gets to feel out his opponents army do some scouting and that's what he's using the scurvy dogs for shadow warriors aren't uncommon in this matchup I've actually use it myself against vampire cosin I actually find that they're very very effective so I think he's doing a little bit of scouting because he liked to find the shadow works being able to take them out would be huge that would take a lot of pressure off the gun line because bows are kind of the rock-paper-scissors counter against you know against like hand gun type units so yeah we'll see how this goes so here we do have the mighty war dogs here you scurvy dogs on both sides just kind of looking around eyeing the juicy flanks of meat that are the aisles here and now we do have the mortar shooting it orders are going to be going into pretty much whatever they can hit at this point yeah I think shooting down the white lines is gonna be the best bet spearmen are gonna have a wet noodle contest with the zombie power jack and mops but the white lines of Christ actually can win many of those duels I mean very handily it's not going to be pretty a very nice terrain save here so the illyrian Reavers rolled a six on their cover save there with the terrain right there blocking the shots from count nautilus and now they're gonna be getting in there but the thing is and there's a lot of handgun support in the back the handguns can cross fire very effectively so even if something comes this way the handguns can turn and shoot this is an interesting map there's actually a lot of a unforseen line-of-sight blocking which is quite scary indeed somebody in chat asking why do cosplayers eg ban Empire and Dwarfs Malverde those are probably the hardest nachos for rampart gos dwarves hard counter vampire coast it's so hard to win that matchup and Empire does as well Empire is winnable but um dwarves is like just just horrible and so's Empire so here you can see the Reapers are forth back really good crossfire he's able to get the handgun mobs to blast those unshielded rivers and the scurvy dogs can now probably chase him off the battlefield in the meantime he did use some scurvy dogs here in the front he actually used them as a road block and they're gonna be obviously going down very quickly against Tecla sand the white lines of Crais in these various units but you know does buy him some time to fall back with knocked Olson he need to get his juicy mortar support going and now the morning goal is also able to slap the base a little bit against those rivers taking almost no damage but now they're charging in two Spears random nicks needs to make sure that he doesn't let his night terrors rampage and spheres that would actually be a very very bad situation so vampire coast hand Gunners are shooting happily into the war lines here bombers or white lines and the Bombers are going down as well in the meantime a rate storm being hops on the Reapers as they advance and definitely killing the mobility here at this high alarm would be very nice forcing them to kind of chase your various hand Gunners in their spread-out position would be very very punishing some of the Rangers have gotten around the back definitely very important here for random nicks to peel this and for taco collapsing here is certainly very strong nice timing he is able to get the Reavers in there and the Rangers are in a bit of a spread formation so this is a great engagement here for the High Elves that is for sure but I certainly feel vampire Coast is in a more of a dominant position the frontline of the house is just getting hammered by a mortar fire by hand gunfire counting oculus is kind of marching around causing terror and the whole backline gambit here did not pay off you can see here the Rangers for flying talk up and the Reavers certainly getting rekt very very badly brutal stuff indeed guys as we do advance here into the midway point of this game it looks like vampire Coast in a very dominant position you know it's funny because random dicks had mentioned he's like I played this matchup twice - two or three times in today's tournament so he's very practiced and very warmed up here in this matchup whereas you know if taco is played against Costa del Sol the Reavers are charging in going after the mortar team but they're gonna get peeled off probably by accountant octal so I would imagine and these handguns are gonna be turning about and this is a really cool tactic I love how he has some like deployed like this it's so neat because he's able to just turn and crossfire any threats and you can't really like shut down both of them with one minute it's just so good Zach rankle thank you for becoming a member here on the channel much appreciated brother enjoy the emojis and yeah hopefully you enjoying the screen here are some spearmen are moving back for back here but it looks like this is going to be a very very quick dominant game coming in here from random Nick's truly showing the power of the vampire coast and yeah the handguns were really punishing against the the white lines when the white lines got entrained to the front line they just got hammered by that ap fire the Bombers of course very good at clearing out Rangers and that is good to be all she wrote yeah the Heil is definitely in a lot of trouble I don't think there's gonna be any way at this point we do have the night terrors as well who do cost errors so they can tear out off many of the very tattered Heil troops in the borders like that's the big problem all four mortars have been shooting this entire game pounding this High Elf battle line switching from the shadow warriors to the infantry and the Reavers try and get in there but man they're just getting put down it is so brutal so here comes the silver helms the proud warriors and the answer could be meeting their end the muskets here of these zombie part gunnery moms Bill's gonna be shooting from downtown as well some Rangers do actually get back here and finally get on the border a rallied unit but yeah there's just way too much vampire coast left and I mean knocked doles is still a powerhouse even if you had an optimist verse this entire High Elf army that's left it would still be a tough fight yeah so that's gonna be that's good to be it a very very nice game here random mix with a nice army set up nice army composition able to really counter that Heil force executed perfectly I don't know what else tako could have done really based on its army comp that looks pretty grim bones pretty grim bones indeed there you have it guys random Nick's coming in with a victory here in Game one let us go ahead and update these scorecards flying taco is down but he's most certainly not out this used a very very good player and now we're gonna be moving into the next match here and let's go ahead and do kelp and coal dust is kind of a janky one blue reach River we don't do this one often actually let's do blue raishin so random nicks so here they're talking matter right now so flying taco says impossible to surrounded that map it seems a new strategy will be needed random Nick says I will DM you later I have a hundred percent wind rate high of army that defeats vampire coast looks like random nicks has the schemes perhaps he does at least so far he says so random nicks certainly quite preview to that matchup I'm gonna be going against all of my instincts in picking blue reach River I normally hate this map because I've had many traumatic experiences where players camp in the trees but I'm gonna hope I'm gonna hope and pray to the dark gods that we get some decent here or to Sigmar you know it all works out what about fantasy chaos force needs chaos still has a lot of things to offer yeah I mean the thing is is like fantasy chaos is basically the same as fantasy 40k in some ways like the demons of chaos and fantasy are the same as 40k so obviously they can fight tyranids to an extent right so yeah yes remember this day lads as the day you almost captured arch Commodore Luther Harkin oh it's funny so in where Emil or UK is Eleanor Albion I have no idea yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't know it's question for the mighty of lower masters alright so players you're doing their picks and bans the map is set on the blue reefs River God yeah like the thing is you got to be careful about picking blue retriever if you're if you have wood elf players playing because they just they get so excited to like camp an army of trees in the forest and then get like one skirmish cap unit and it's god I hate those games so much that is like the scourge of casting and playing oh god it's just the worst and again Zack thank you for becoming a member dude yeah well it's funny because like yeah I don't know correct me if I'm wrong but the chaos gods as far as I know in the 40k lore they kind of draw their power from emotion and like things like that right so if they draw if Corin draws his power from violence and bloodshed and ends each from like treachery and you know and then a slash from you know decadence and and excess like the tyranids don't really encompass too much of that I mean I guess Korn kind of would could feed off their violence I don't really know I feel like some of the chaos gods would just be like well I guess there's none of that for me yeah if it were just the embers tyranids right yeah it's interesting stuff I had a really good game against arrow drastic the other day he was playing vampire coast and had a pretty similar build to random annex and I was playing Isles it's up on the channel actually I used the bluefin are it was actually decent for kind of poking down off tools but I used mostly Rangers I'm trying to think what else we used i I did use shadow words I don't know I probably still would have had that same experience so oh god tree camping wood elf armies is just like the worst thing in the game it's just like every time I see that I just wish a giant nickel on you could come down and just blow up the army so quickly kids of the next game yeah coast is really good for sure they have some they have some bad matchup so like if you see a dwarf player play coast you're gonna see a helpless faction like vampire coast really really struggles they're an empire like dumpsters them too honestly I think random mixers had a really well executed build and tacos build wasn't well equipped to deal with it and that's really what it comes down to Dakota Mike says can't believe we've got another birthday stream oh my god yes tyranids are the shadow in the warp the hive mind breaks the chaos Scout system chaos can't manifest if there are too many tyranids nearby that's good to know yeah okay yeah it's good to know but Ville I never did anything like that I don't think and if I did it's super old and outdated at this point random Nix his thinking face that's funny all right so taka is gonna pick Empire which is good probably with Empire you have to bend warps cuz random Nicks is a dwarf player so if you don't ban dwarves here random nicks will pick tures many times coast players are often dwarf players also he bends dwarves and for Empire what else would I probably been I don't know probably vampire counts vampire counts like it's winnable but it's kind of an annoying matchup he says grudge yeah yeah random question what are your thoughts on bore stop bringer for Empire do you actually see yeah Boris is good if you want to if you want to play Empire and not bring like a life caster cuz Franz is kind of like really a regrowth guy if you're gonna bring Franz you pretty much always want to overcast regrowth on him but if you wanna bring a bill that you know doesn't rely on you know Franz and you know you want to get some things you don't really need as much healing you don't have to Emperor Griff Knights you know getting boris ha bring her as like a solid combat substitute that Joe's also heal himself is really good yeah Boris is he's a good lord yes yeah okay so he bends da we and scape and interesting okay yes some people think scaping her a counter champ ire and I I actually like that matchup I have a build that's really really good against gaming what I've been using Sigmar prevails against the fetid foe yes Sarge is for the garage so dwarves and Skaven have been banned random nicks may go for vampire counts here actually flying tacos just gonna be like in the forest with the health but the thing is is like dwarves actually you're like shoot ear like their guns are better their bows are better there can't there artilleries better that they just lack the mobility and the magic you know and the monsters basically yeah be sped be span to have a okay matchup force Empire I think Empire has to play kaity there you have to like use pistol ears and empire Knights and like take your engagements very sparsely if you play Empire and try and engage the baseman ahead up fight you can kind of do it the Volt bar and like flagellants but it's it's ugly because they have like spawn just tearing you apart with more ger and like it's it's tough yeah it's a tough one big nacl so Skaven is your personal counter yes gaben are good yes yes indeed all right so let's get this party started here random nicks has his thinking face on he's trying to decide his last faction I don't want to rush in here so I'll let him take his sweet time yeah dwarfs dorms are interesting they have some like really bad matchup so they also have some really good ones all right so we got green skins first Empire this is a I would say this is an even matchup it really with Empire you got to watch out for the rampage effects I actually think I know what taco is gonna do here we played this matchup a couple weeks back but green skins here good like if you can rampage the Empire heavy cap with you know you fermented fungi or use the nether to slow them down and catch them you can get some really good plays actually like doom divert catapults you're a lot for the green skins doom divert catapults can do great work against the Empire skirmish and can also chase their heavy calves and wagons and all sorts of good stuff like that yeah so here we have it guys it's gonna be green skins against Empire the Battle of black fire pass 2.0 right now yeah so now it's probably a good time huh maybe I'll do a video on like what DLCs I would recommend but I'll just say it now so here if you guys have want to skip the ten-minute video I'll probably do on it DLCs I would recommend vampire coast if you're new to the game and you really want to play a fun campaign and also have a strong multi player faction I think the Grom of the poncho is a really fun one as well Grom is really really good and the Green skins like campaign is super fun also and then I don't know yeah those would probably be my top ones I'd have to suggest Tim Kings is fun I don't know I don't enjoyed the Tim Kings campaigns as much because I find that like just grinding with a million skeletons in the desert against other Tim Kings is miserable but some people really like it hey King of the Dead sent me the replay man I'll have like a set please new brother so here's what I'm thinking about doing yeah summer sale cool that's cool what I'm thinking about doing for the I'm gonna go ahead and put this down Limited I thought about doing a tournament tomorrow which would be open to anyone to play so tomorrow we would have a tournament you know sometime in the morning I don't know maybe a little bit later since it would be a different format but I may put up a invite tonight or tomorrow morning I'm not sure I'm not invited but in the discord we do a best of one faction single faction tournament so basically it would be the same kind of similar to ECL and that anyone can join you pick a single faction you put it next to your player name in the registration and then you play that faction the entire time so it's kind of like a Starcraft or Warcraft 3 tournament and that you play your best factor in the entire tournament they're all best of ones but the finals become a best of three and best of five so what you guys would see on stream would be best of three and best of five but it'd be kind of cool like I want to run that as a bit of a experiment to see like which factions consistently get to the top and a best of one of course would be random so some people will just get really bad matchups in the beginning so you got to be careful with that but yeah I don't know I don't know I'm thinking of doing that tomorrow hey Benjamin Kingsley you found it through the elf Aryan campaign very cool man yeah we got uh I recorded three more scars NIC episodes a couple days ago so I'm gonna be editing those I'll be going up this week oh my god am i scarce in campaign I have to say guys I took over like a lot of space and then every single faction on the damned campaign map declared war on me I have the high elves and the lizard been sailing from both wan and freakin uh I don't know what I did I'm just like suddenly everyone declares war when I Confederated with grim Gorham's oh my god it's insane it's insane um how come so tech doesn't do table top tournament anymore I don't know maybe I maybe doesn't enjoy multiplayer as much yeah the wood elf campaign is pretty lacking it really is top factions I'd have to do I'd have to collect my thoughts I don't want to just throw stuff out there but certainly vampire coast is up there yeah well I'd have to think about it a little bit Jim Kings definitely up there as well wherever to is just 20 bucks and Warhammer is 15 bucks oh wow okay so you can get everything for 35 bucks it's pretty good deal I don't know if I broke a treaty I don't think I did yeah Rissa damos like that's what I was asking myself sounds like did I break a treaty like I don't think so I mean I declared war on the border princes maybe I I still had a non-aggression pact with them at some point yeah it's not even the order tied it's like - everything tied yeah I don't know guys well wild times indeed I probably gonna end up friggin losing that campaign because I literally have like Jim sacks all around me just breaking one treaty can ruin the entire campaign yeah yeah I mean everybody already hates me in that campaign so it's all good no I'm like strength rank six or something yeah yeah I don't know what happened it was weird just like when I got powerful and you know I might be able to fight off the tide like the thing is there's two high tomb stacks there's the scheming doom stacks from the south I'm fighting carries a key rack the Empire is marching south but thankfully the vampires are kind of my buddies so it's just like oh my god it's just raiding our key anyways guys let's take a look here at the glorious forces here of the flying taco here with the Empire so triple pistoleer definitely gonna be pretty good against green skins pistol ears can kind of kite the green skin missile units and you know trade with them effectively and skirmishing and melee which is fun it's very much again cat mouse so should be fun to see you got spearmen with shields into the sunset we have a Manticore summoner so it's just gonna be so many man scores we got God track actually of course he loves to slay some green skins and volkmar the grandma I love Voltron this matchup I think he's very very good now the back we do have a great cannon as well there's gonna be Empire nights into the sunset and some spearmen and that is going to be it nice little army here from the flying taco we will see how this goes yeah yeah I have no idea I might have accidentally broken diplomacy somewhere and just not notice it I like attacking something I don't know yeah now Kyoto I think I can handle it don't worry like I I'm very powerful I'm making like 15,000 gold to turn and you know I have like a massive nation it's just gonna be it's gonna be a grind and now for the forces here of the green skins we have a little bit of a skirmish in court wolf riders and you know all the goodness here and you know he was gonna be taking the opportunity to use the tree line but the umpire doesn't care too much Empire can simply just I would just scoop my army this way like move the cannons back this way and then the greens kids will eventually have to march into your cannon fire but aside from that it's gonna be warlords boys work boys various goblins and orcs couple of missile units a little bit of a docking line rusty areas plus work air voice and two goblin rock clobbers which go random NYX with a big brain place because the rock lobbers can hide behind the trees and shoot over whereas the cannons have to shoot through the trees oh my god the existence of this map is a grudge - snicks got a kept fun I feel you I thought people liked this map I thought multiplayer people liked this one yeah it certainly makes for an interesting engagement cuz players have to like move out of their comfort zone well we'll see so gonna be a little bit of skirmishing here umm the frontline oh there's a giant River troll hag as well spirit leech on her and who is a leader for this army it's gonna be a night Calvin war boss yeah he's really really good in this matchup the night galvan war boss can fermented fungi and tormentor sword so he has two really really powerful snares which make him incredibly strong star Killa I have seen that game yeah a lot of a total work content creators quit total war to go do hearts of iron because it just grew their channels so quick yeah but no III prefered total war yeah I like fantasy and science fiction a lot more than historical stuff just my jam hello don't get me wrong if their day ever came out with like a really awesome historical title they had a little deal a little bit of multiplayer action I'd be all over it yeah I heard hearts hearts of iron is good though for sure so the Empire Canada shooting bit lawman The Rock clobber is actually going in so it looks like random nicks did overcast the sphere at leech on the great cannon and then his rock clobbers has haggard rock lovers I think are shooting from over the hill here well that's so funny I remember that was just fear leach yeah mostly just finis fear at leash on that how did he get so much damage on that then he actually took out a cannon and the other missile attacks it was a spear leech and what else could it have been so this map makes four makes for a pretty like cat mouse game which is something that's cool it's different than those like rush Maps and maybe these players just don't like map pistol ears definitely will do okay in combat against these units I suppose but yeah the thing is the wolf riders have a little bit better range of 100 so if they can range the pistol ears and just kind of kite backwards they're gonna be quite happy Empire is advancing definitely not a bad idea god track is gonna be a pain also got wreck will you know take a while to drag down and yeah should be fine Mike Lai's yeah I played with him a long time ago like back and where everyone yeah we played some games the really nice guy so here it looks like the green skins are actually coming in for a pretty aggressive push and actually didn't notice that these are spider Rider archers so yeah they probably will be able to be pistol ears in combat with the poison and the slowing effects and things like that so pistol ears are kiting backwards getting a little bit of damage here onto the goblin wolf rider archers as those bad boys do fall back no King the head-to-head campaign we're doing is it's gonna be me on the Kraken Lord and you're on Luther that's what was voted for here the pistol ears are now surging forward once again a little bit about trading here both players just kind of tickling the pickle of one another nothing terribly serious going on in terms of damage but I mean maybe in terms of cost the green-skinned skirmish line is doing a little bit better against the pistol ears but it's pretty much a wash and the cannons now back on line see what's you can of pieces the giant river troll hag is on the run she's got her sack of meat she's like screw this [ __ ] I'm going home I do not want any of this and yeah I'm gonna try and get out here she's taking her Goods home volkmar and uh yeah that's very thematic as well we got both war and culture icon seeing the troll I think volkmar is more about like hunting heretics and you know vampires and things like that but I'm sure you can make an exception for the for the green skins here and there yeah we'll see how this goes well for a conversa Luther harken head to head yeah that would take it no that would just not be fun I mean it would just be like playing your own thing here we have the pistol ears they are milord ooh that's pretty big and now the counter charge coming in so Miller is a big slow 25 speed but it's almost worn off I don't know if it's actually gonna pay off I think he was a little bit out of position with the counter charge which is it this is actually really good for taco I mean it'll take a little bit of damage on impact but if you can get back here he did get one of the charges out of that very valuable ability and you can see the little goblin coming in wanting to get tormentor sword definitely not worth dropping right now the Empire Spears have rushed in and they've gotten really good screening so pushing back the skirmishers bolt from the grim has to cover of the trees also and it looks like a fanatic ball was loosed here by the the war boss he actually does have fanatic charges but it was pretty much a whiff it looks like it didn't even hit the Spearman so a little bit of a tough play there Empire heavy cab are now chasing trying to catch these a green-skinned skirmishers and some of the squeak riders a little bit traps up here I think I'm actually taking these Empire nights turning around and hammering into these squeaks would be a really good play yeah bit of a Miss by pulling back there because the Empire has such superior forces here both mark coming in buffing you know with a god track nearby and spearmen and you know Manticore summoning and a lot of the greenskin armies like over here that would have been a really good engagement to take in my opinion about a little bit out of position for that but oh no a disaster for the night Galvin war boss Volk one of the grim blasting Sabaton out of the speaker's of his pimp cart here is able to lock the Goblin in play and now he's just getting canned and that is gonna be a nice catch here for the flying taco I know I've not finished the campaign versus otech I'll be doing that soon whenever he's free I'm just waiting for him really and here the soul fire bombardment is going down gonna be true drop in the base and the night captain war boss is indeed broken that is certainly a back-breaking play for the green skins losing their Lord and also such a powerhouse piece granted it's it's not a huge part of the army you know he only cost probably like 1300 or 1400 but yeah it's still gonna be probably too much to come back from I think and here you can see the Empire Knights able to run over the AP clooney's just kind of keeping those guys busy the green skins a little bit out of position with many of their forces they're kind of sitting over here hanging out and they need to make their way over if they can but it's looking grim bones my friends for the forces of the green skins as the Empire is able to get some great peeling here the goblin wolf rider archers getting some DPS n but uh nothing getting out traded by the mighty got wreck and yeah I think the war boss actually shattered completely yes he's running for the hills here guys that is looking pretty tough for him well King didn't have too much lag today had to head campaign shouldn't be too big of a deal also because remember there's only two of you in there it's not like you have two people plus a commentator or two commentators so here the Empire Knights are gonna be charging into the AP Clooney's pistol ears getting a little bit of a counter shooting back the Greenes can certainly have a presence here in this tree line this would be a pretty insane comeback though somehow the green skins could find a way to win this I would be very very surprised like I feel like pulp Mars just got to be a raid boss here and you know honestly as far as this army goes there's not much that can deal with Baltimore like that's sometimes why you see Isaac Isaac actually I'll do a volkmar pretty handedly with spirit Lee just busses a peon Ozan but yeah we'll see how that goes yeah big Empire blob here and what's gonna happen now is flying tacos gonna push up through the trees he'll definitely hit the rock lovers and just you know none of the greenskins here gonna be able to stop them ribbet roll hag he's kind of hanging out in the shadow she should have been more engaged in that fight probably she's got good ap and can certainly do some work I know Kings favorite character volkmar the grim is here doing some great work dude some great work indeed a point value that multi players played in for the gentleman asking each eye is twelve thousand four hundred that is standard for quick battles and per tournament play so greens can solve a fair amount of stuff I mean the balance of power isn't point of no return they have some orc boys who obviously can probably beat some spearmen and you know if the major Marauders are one of these Spider Riders if here if random nicks can see this and get them and come and get this cannon for free I mean that's certainly you know a path to getting back in this game I just don't think there's anything that's gonna be able to kill volt Warren got rekt they're just too powerful so the angry lunch lady is over here and it looks like she's taking her sack of meat and beating down these empire knights who of course have done their their best but now they're gonna go back to outdoors and hopefully enjoy some pampered lives ham not fun for those guys virtual haggis certainly no joking combat good ap values regeneration monsters well that's pretty good stuff now we have volkmar and got rack pushing up taking out the gob lobbers is gonna be a huge boon as it pertains to the balance of power but very good play here from random Nick so a lot of people don't know this you can actually get your artillery pieces for example and you can have them drop the artillery piece at that point near aa clobbers and these various other units are just gonna run away so you can like save the artillery otherwise if you just sit there and you know they're gonna get caught and killed so volkmar is i just kind of rolling around on his card at this point good to be able to turn around and cause some problems for sure random mix is actually doing a good job elsewhere though like if you look at this part of the battlefield random dicks is pretty much one everything here the pistol ears are all down the cannon is being chased by goblins the orc barb always able to clean up some Empire nights and you have some more twerkboys here all right you know what random dicks might have some teeth in this fight but still killing the character squad is gonna be so hard like not much is set aside from the river troll hag it's very very hard yeah you giant river troll hag are you guys calling her the Karen of total war speaking to the managers of their factions 24/7 yeah probably he's like I bought this this meat from your store and I'm not pleased with it and I've already eaten half of it I'd like to return it definitely Karen yeah so here comes volkmar the Grimm riding through some of the goblins backed out by some state troopers not too many of them but sixty of them should be able to at least fight fate equally nice especially with wolf marks cart rolling them over God Trek is certainly gonna be quite furious fighting his eternal nemesis Godric of course did lose an eye to some goblins so that's a one of the reasons why he just likes him so much on top of them just being greenskins in general and him being a dwarf but let us not ask questions to the reptile higher dropping spirit leeches certainly got wreck is the right choice because you know maybe in a in a certain situation you know the river troll I could fight volkmar for a while because she is a Monstress unit in both Mara's anti-infantry you know he doesn't do too well against like monsters here's some of the Empire State Troopers are being pushed off but the spearmen might actually hold here 60 and either these brave boys alright that's what she said and and yeah just hold them back here Empire is certainly very good fashion for air people who are wondering I think empires a top tier faction as well I think they're harder to play than other top tier factions though but I think Empire only really has like two bad matchups I think they can compete with everyone else which is really cool that's why I've been kind of practicing Empire lately to make him one of my main factions okay this is a good play here so what's happening is is that flying taco is using his Manticore summon he's gonna trap the giant river troll hag in and try and get her routed off the map which would be very very strong she's not to be in a psychology I don't think so ooh this is a really risky play by random mix actually getting the river to hide back here if you get the terror out it off the map that could be really punching I'm going to use the mither on the throw man Square very very good play the volt bars just ramming this uh Miss Karen here yeah doing it you can see the giant virtual hag taking a lot of damage she still does fire damage you know so the fire damage gives them a force multiplying effect their man score probably should have flown over and then came under and around on the Omaha she's shaken now and I think that's gonna be army losses but the green skins believe it or not there's still a caster as well Davy Crockett here is no joke because amber Wizards actually you're surprisingly good at melee in terms of their offensive prowess they have fifty melee attack which is not bad so the river troll hag is being chased up some in the electric counts once again I agree I'm always down to some of the electric counts I'd like to speak to your Emperor that's what the haggis saying yeah and the manticore is gonna be used to chase off the Hagin with that the greenskin army is mainly mainly just you know chaff it's like couple goblins warlords boys I mean what are some Haggard or poor boys gonna do against the glorious war altar of sigmar absolutely nothing so there are some spearmen here still fighting to leadership on those bad boys but now they're gonna be surrounded by some goblins random Nicks what does he have he's got a rusty Aires and oh it looks like the Goblin or hot clobber Cruz maybe coming back here some work boys get a little bit of dock into volkmar here I mean you know all that's really left here for flying taco is the glory of sigmar squad but you know random acts he did a really really good job despite losing his lord and like the first engagement he was fighting down at the Lord the entire battle like had he had the little Goblin you know he would have had a lot more utility rampaging but yeah that was very good attempt by random next but I really do think of that matchup you need to bring a you need to bring a zag to kill volkmar alright and also you know kite Franz and spirit Legion things like that all right one one here in this series guys as we go to the rubber match game 3 both series today have gone to the final round which is great we should just like troll and put them on Hitler Abood do the pillar bone biller bones a great man is yes amber wizard can get his grift in multiplayer yeah it's actually you know as if people used to use that occasionally GG indeed Karen the Karen definitely causes fear not Tara she doesn't like she's not scary enough to actually like you know frighten you away but she's she'll put a little nervousness in you when she starts threatening to sue you and stuff yeah Karen's high attack but low defense that's so accurate we got a close quarters fight more or less although I want to say I'm pillar bone you can get away with artillery it's it's fine you guys wants long gold no we're not we're not doing that alright so we have a donation coming in oh man Sharif Khan I'm so sorry I missed this so guys 9 minutes ago there was a big fat donation from Sharif Khan during that battle while I was doing commentary so my apologies he says hashtag free tic tac toe dude I still haven't downloaded Tic Tac Toe I will eventually I think I'll do a head to head campaign would take - at some point like I'll play him that'll be the great reveal of tic-tac-toe Shareef Khan thank you so much for the 50 I will free tic-tac-toe just for you man and I'll play him in a head head maybe after I finished the one with so Tekken King I'll do a tic-tac-toe one after that I've never played him so I've no idea what to expect but uh yeah yes again Sherif hopefully are still here man thank you so much for the donation it's very generous of you and yes I will free - tic-tac-toe volkmar the groom is the manager he's like the ultimate manager managing you know the church there yeah all right so now we're here players are gonna do their picks and bans oh man how many uh many can you have how many virtual hags you can have - I think but they can't have the same spells I think I can't remember if you're allowed to bring like the neither twice I don't think so so they're checking the rules right now the picks and bans we can get the most recent league here I can check for them if they can't find it but it's like them the discord these two gentlemen know where it is so random Nicks is gonna be thinking about it here and yeah then we'll get going yeah we'll get this going Voltron is chariot is considered large correct yeah the best way to deal with volkmar is just to have another high mass mounts for yourself so like for example if you come in with like a dragon or a man score or anything that's like big and can like block volkmar like they can take him out usually you know somewhat effectively it's still hard because he heals himself and he's got a lot of good defensive support and armor but um yeah they're like typically like you know if you have like any sort of a dragon a monster monstrous calves units for example like demography or you know a cold one spear riders things like that can like block them up Tic Tac toes army composition is 19 airborne units in campaign and then like once kink in the corner yeah that's pretty funny is there any indication of when Warhammer 3 is coming think so I don't think so i would i would guess sometime like in the middle early middle next year a beam I guess I don't know yeah Kissel van Empire do you fight together but they aren't the same faction that's correct just like in the campaign you don't like Confederate kiss live I don't think they usually just get wiped out and you reclaim their territories Sam I don't know if it's consider one of the yeah I think they are part of the electorate counts or something aren't they I don't know volkmar is definitely large the chariot is tiny Baltimore's enormous brass balls are considered large Baltimore's the Volk where has some insane lore like just absolutely insane lore so like what happens with volkmar alright the volkmar when our town like appears Volk nor the grim like goes on a cruise a crusade after archaeon so Baltimore takes like an army up north and like battles to the forces of chaos and then like both Martha Graham has like a one-on-one duel with arc young and mind you volkmar is like you know he's got his prayers and his Sigmar stuff but he's not like the scariest duelist in the world and he just like is so has such powerful faith that he's like I'm gonna just go do a little work on right I'm pretty sure I have this right so then he duels archaeon archaeon absolutely destroys him right so then basically he's captured by chaos I think our town kills him and then as a prank bellick or like the one of the greater demons of chaos or i don't think it's our town resurrects full part of the grim and they literally like tie volkmar to a giant stake and like march back to the empire with volkmar the grim right so volkmar the grimms reanimated self is like on a giant stake being marched back to the empire and it's like terrifying all the Empire troops cuz they see they're like you know they're big dude here just kind of like taken out by chaos but then there's some battle I can't remember who but somehow there's a battle and volkmar the grim like escapes the thing and like just I'm pretty sure he like starts fighting as soon as he like escapes the mistake that he's on it's just like it's absurd it's just absurd yeah he's so metal like he gets he fights he gets brought back he gets like imprisoned and tortured and then he just like comes back even more pissed off and Graham it's like yeah it's so awesome vote for her such a cool character just going to duel archaeon he's not Karl Franz you know he's not the the Gaul meraz will he's just like I'm just gonna go do this yeah yes you have caught an ECL stream you have so random Nicks is like thinking deeply about his army composition which is fine of course Ludwig is waiting in the finals thankfully it is Saturday so hopefully he can stay up yeah yeah cos bellacourt resurrects volkmar after he and like as a joke like two teeth a torment to archaeon i think i can't remember what it is there's like some weird yeah that was in the storm of chaos before i got retconned okay yeah so they just like what record all that yeah I know go bald so I can you know iPad I've had a bus cut before a long long time ago I kept I find a picture if it hold on I'm see if I can we have time to kill now I wasn't bald though I still had like like a really really short kind of a like a crew-cut type thing back in the college days I have a mullet now I still have it mullet will stay lady Taryn loves it so and I actually have a recording on my phone of her sang she likes my mullet so there is proof if it ever comes to it yeah I don't know I'm just trying to find pictures of short hair yeah another time another time my friends the thing is I can do both tomorrow I could like yeah cuz the problem is like I can't grow like great mustaches and volkmar is known for his mustache right that thing is powerful as hell so like I couldn't I couldn't do that Italian Spartacus could roleplay volkmar much better like he already has the bald head and he grows good facial hair so no I don't play us fo I just play I play standard yes party Sparty could definitely do volkmar and that would be more his jam I could probably grow like if I just let my hair grow long again I could probably be like a Sigma are held and hammer thing yeah or say bald unfortunately guys I can't grow a good mustache I've tried I've tried it's just not it's just not in my my purview and my skillset I try I tried so hard and got so far but in the end the mustache was impossible with definitely Sparty yeah nobody ever gives the the Warrior Priest riding on the back of his card any credit yeah that guy deserve some credit for sure he's like swinging the hammer back there he's the one actually doing the damage right Volta mars-like up they're just like yelling and like you know doing his thing I was killed here it sounds like we are kindred spirits yes grim soca holy [ __ ] man that is crazy grim soca guys just dropped a fat $200 donation now holy [ __ ] grim soca thank you so much guys was here a round of applause for a grim soca here in chat and Sharif Khan coming in hard with the fat ones he says hater and I'm back man donate to this man if you love Warhammer and turn all right Thank You Man holy [ __ ] thank you so much grim that's super generous brother as super generous or my notifications going off let's freakin see here yeah should be all right cool man grim soca thank you so much that's super generous that is a big donation dude volkmar be praised so they're still thinking all right so random Knicks they finally did it so random Knicks has done Skaven norske and Tomb kings yeah grim thank you so much welcome back hope you're staying safe in these dire times how does a fat one thank you making it rain the dabbing emoji hey does feel like my birthday now it really does I'll take my smoking-hot wife out on a nice dinner date as soon as I can with that thank you so much good grim stoke is secretly Balthasar guilt perhaps so ooh so scheming North consume king I think flying tacos is gonna go counts and ban what would you ban if you're playing counts I don't know gaben probably Tim Kings I don't know we'll see hey again grim one last time thank you so much dude that's very generous brother I know Sigma are you crazy Sigma Sigma delivers right so vampire counts and he bans nothing no he does even he says he pens no nothing or norske okay so he's banning norske so it's gonna be vampire counts for escaping her Tim King so we're probably gonna see double banshee yeah it's gonna be fun guys we got a vampire count match up always a good time grim soca says turn and miss you brother boss since I've been away oh you don't you don't owe me anything man but I really do appreciate that how many games have there been yeah so we had three games in our first best of three and then this is Game three of our second and the winner of this will go on to the grand finals it's gonna be scavenger bone I think Skaven will probably go with counsel guard sensor bearers the the RoR sensor bearers help at abomination like I think this game and Death Star is really good against vampire counts actually where'd you go off to grim often some mighty adventure and if you guys are enjoying the screen no he's banning norske I thought he was banning no one but it's norske yeah for a second I had to do a double-take there if you guys are enjoying the stream do drop a like so you've got 1400 people here and the midpoint of our stream let's see if we can get our likes a little bit closer to our viewer ratio appreciate that guys I always hate asking for it I've always thought it was cringy but it is what it is oh my god please don't give me the invocation crash katja vampire counts I think it's only when you overcast and voda like resurrect blood Knights I think that's when it crashes yeah I really I really thought yeah it's gonna be Skaven verse counts here I love I actually liked watching vampire count games I think it's fun you think so every step I think IRISA bringing like one missile like a Giselle are are just like protecting them at a box is like a good way to play just been driving everywhere super busy yeah got you working in these times huh no rest for the wicked vampire crashes I know that was really unfortunate we had an auto gen tournament the other day and we had some serious crash issues with the vampire counts having like twice bends no one like a boss no hey juries don't put that witchcraft on this stream don't you dare put that witchcraft on this stream hey juries you stop right now yeah it doesn't seem to happen with vampire coast it just seems to happen with vampire counts but you're saying you got it with with vampire coast that's weird ah the gash was weak says Nick well we will we will find out Nick how we can cash was actually like playing vampire counts are fun that's one campaign have only played once back in Warhammer one I played a head-to-head campaign against Italian Spartacus where I played live on car Stein against Spartacus is uh uh-huh what else was super one-sided in retrospect the factions Vlad is actually pretty opium campaign guys I think Vlad is one of the strongest campaigns like you start with such Opie nonsense you start with freakin flat of course isn't the craziest Lord in the end game but the beginning is quite good you start with the plaid so you start with a vampire caster you start with two additional vampire casters then you also start with like a bar guys like which are just insanely good in early game campaign they can like wreck siege battles they're just like and Vlad has such good skill tree stuff like everything in his army gets Chevron so quickly man I just realized that playing head-to-head ahead against so tech like how brutal his start is yeah it's like it's rough it is rough so players are doing their picks were on the opilio bone here I see we are joined by Orion stream so if you guys haven't seen him he is a caster who does I believe only Russian casts but seems like a really nice guy anyone can join the call yeah all my ECL qualifiers are open to everyone so we had a range of newer players today we have 60 people playing give or take holy [ __ ] grim soca you're out of control man this is four so grim soca coming in with another fat Hyundai he says this is for your birthday happy birthday brother hope you have a good escape the Warped day thank you so much scream soca again dude that is another thick donation you're just going ham today do the chop donation definitely got a little bit of a chap going here not gonna lie grim soca thank you so much man holy [ __ ] so generous and and yeah my birthday is actually July 12th but we'll put it towards that I guess just keep the meme going just keep it going man grim soca thank you so much I really hope that's not like a financial burden on you man cuz that's super generous and I would feel bad hopefully you got a lot saved yeah Ryan seems like a great guy I've only ever had good interactions with him I actually watched his stream because Orion was streaming my ecl earlier today and I was like watching it I was like I don't understand what he's saying but he's got good cadence a easy to listen to and uh yeah great camera work grim soca again dude I can't thank you know if I really hope that's not a burden on you because that's super generous dude okay I'm ready feel a little bit stressed not gonna lie oh man yeah it's the rubber match dude it's the rubber match thank you so much again I'll make sure to buy a wookie there poopy the premier dog food in my local store he'll be treated like a king ok grim gladly here it's not a burden on You Man the Scrooge McDuck Scrooge McDuck I love that character oh my god I turn what do you think about Gregor he looks cool in campaign but multiplayer he I think he is a little bit outclassed by the other green-skinned Lords and multiplayer but I don't think he's bad anymore the fact that he has to slow and you know some other useful abilities certainly helps yeah subs are coming in hard today yeah they are all right grim thank you so much dude hopefully you're ready for this awesome game and we're getting really really good series today like every match we've had has been a juicy juicy best of three and gone to Game three a flying hoe teacher potato boil em mash em stick of anise to behold my small divination thank you so much flying potato hey man it's it's a thought that counts tea thank you is your name of like a Lord of the Rings like kind of meme reference so rubber match is a term used like if there's like a best stuff series the rubber match is like the final battle it's like the the final duel in a series right so if you if you have like a trilogy so let's say you have Muhammad Ali fighting Joe Frazier the the third match would be the rubber match it's the one that decides it I don't really know the history of the language that's kind of like why it's called a rubber match but it's it's like it just kind of dictates hey this is the final game three here my locks I'm not sure yeah what's up my head and again potato grim soca dude Shareef thank you guys so much sir and just call me late game Myles all right the late game High Elves dude - oh my god I never played elf campaigns and the other night I just went into like a Dark Elf campaign and I played like the first like 40 turns just for fun and oh my god the amount of money you get with the elvish factions like Dark Elves and house it's absurd I've been playing with like Haggard green skins and let's all poor the Caudell factions so much and soon okay - thank you for asking that yeah alright guys so let's go ahead and again Nick de Bourgh kiss live that's all he has to say his kiss lip a man kiss love is awesome and when we're hammer old world does come back Nick it's a good name by the way my name is Nick also I'll probably have my empire army because I already have an empire tabletop army but I'm also gonna get a kiss love army and have them like fight together and Lady turn will probably maybe have a kiss love army and I'll have a you know she can get the huh stars going and I'll have my empire army it's gonna be awesome so Nick thank you again yeah rubber band is like a comeback final yeah Jen's that's a good guess I've never done research on it they call it a rubber match because the winning pitcher receives a tote bag o condoms what God and read that last fire got me good alright sorry guys I gotta focus we have the rubber match here alright so for the build here random just like we guessed this is exactly what I was expecting a Skaven blob so what you do is you get the blight scabs plague pack they give him you know psychology to the entire scheme and blob from there you get storm Perman you get the council guard who are unbreakable double help it to fight the vampire monsters and a Gracie or a plague just for summons I actually oftentimes you see scroll kin this because of the more dissension effect he has but yeah it's a scathing Death Star which I think he's got double warp grandeur to so like you can punish the vampire counts for coming in this is gonna be fun I know my name is turn my name my name is Nick actually yeah that's my first name anyways guys for the forces here of the of the vampires it's pretty much a wide line of skeletons and chaff and double white kings which are really good I think no just one Scouts growth is really really strong here against Gavin blobs bar ghosts are also quite annoying they can cycle charge or generate and the breath attacks from the lobby and vampire Lord are going to be great and I don't really be like in many ways the determining factor can the vampire Lord get good breath attacks on the sensor bears on the Council guard if it can honestly I think that gives the game potentially to flying taco but aside from that the scape and blob is really punishing you know if the bar gulps get in combat they lose to help it abominations in combat and these snares are really really strong for sure so having a good old-fashioned stare down here the clan Balkan tail slasher is gonna be surging into the zombies it looks like but halting at the last second losing their charge bonus which I guess isn't that much so it's not really that big of a deal yeah you basically have to watch out for the breath attacks that this game and blob is very very strong and we're kinder going down but oh no what is this it's not a pendulum coming in wow look at that nice pendulum oh yeah Columbian vampire Lord has shadow magic oh man so the pendulum tech look at that flying taco very clever here oh and a big breath attack coming in as well oh god this game is are just getting pounded here by the AO YZ and all that other sort of witchcraft in as scabs great going down as well and flying taco was very very well prepared for this so here comes the vargulf sand the various other monsters just kind of hanging out I really think you need a plague furnace when you're gonna play the style play because the mortis engine is gonna be really good help it you get on that thing they need to start fighting it now they're going in double help it double spanked on the mortis engine it's gonna certainly take some damage over imagine looks like they both miss and now the vargulf gorillas are coming in but there are a lot of anti large here now the sensor bears and other troops are gonna be scooting forward counsel guard probably when it's good up as well pretty much have a monster I'm sure Bluffs with filth is activated as well as the unholy clamour giving poison and bigger to the entire escaping army now the sensor Bears have engaged again skeletons and chaff and they're gonna start wearing those bad boys down so far I would say the vampires have got any better engagements it seems like they're in a I know I thought it was the winds of death for a second how's it coming out it's happening so the bond fight here allow me and vampire lord he's going fisticuffs with the help and abominations he really does not want to do that no she is powerful lightning reflexes will make it a little bit of a better duelist it's still not a happy trade so here we have the clan Vulcan sails lashes as well as Eve lights caps Plato's courts going down from these Gavin furnace able to get some work in and the more dissension definitely needs to be targeted by the helper which may take the help is trying to get away from them but yeah you have to keep that thing in check so the workaround are really nice seismic snare going down it's gonna be locking down the entire vampire count formation here but it does not look like the damage ability has been used escape and solve a fair amount of stopping power in terms of their elite troops the accounts of art are now moving in but you definitely don't want the council guard fighting the Lord essential that's a pretty disastrous trade one-bar Gulf is getting a little bit beat up here you can see the help it was able to get a couple decent attacks and now we have the Warped play going down which will be very very good at clearing out the vampire chat but again I think this is a big mistake having the council guard fighting the mortis engine unsupported is definitely tough trade so another pendulum oh this is gonna be a good pendulum clan rats as well as strong berman here nice one right there does take out 20 storm berman and also does massive HP damage but you know here on that same note you can see the Crypt Warriors are getting quite beat up like monk sensor bears are giving that immune to psychology the work riders are still functional so there is going to be snares as we do progress here into late-game right now flying taco does get islami and Lord and his other characters and is trying to goon this health abomination and is actually succeeding pretty well help it does turn around to try and fight and other help at abomination is trapped on crypt ores here Council guard very unfortunately are trapped in combat you can see mortis engine note looks like an invocation is going to be going Rory's here to you of course are taking quite a bit of damage from these sensor bears who hit hard against light armor and also if you have a contaminate in fact the grace here does knock over the bar gold and now the work grounders are activated once again so the vampire count army here is going to be snared and also taking AoE magic damage the troops doing at the back so it looks like clan rats of course are gonna be breaking storm vermin are doing okay but I feel like the more dissension is just gonna be such an issue it needs to be dealt with but it's so hard to deal with if you don't have any range of assets here yeah yeah let's see here so what do we have yeah we got the mortis engine oh yeah we actually have a rule break don't we from flying tacos horses yeah we have we have a Lommy and vampire lord and and of Argos and yeah that's a rule break there all right all I don't know taco you have four SEM just this way we don't have to play the whole game out yeah cuz he has too many cuz you can't have you can't have that many but anybody can play the game out but yeah regardless random Nicks we'll get another run at it we'll just have them replay the game off to see it's like it's tricky to enforce they're both really good guys and friends so I don't need to be too much of a stickler and give a game loss about that but we'll see I mean you know there's a chance that random Enix might be able to pull this off we'll see and here one of the bar ghosts is actually going down to the double help at abomination grace you're able to drop some summons and sensor bears are still going as well yeah it is indeed a rule break he's got too many massive monsters SEMS so you're allowed to have three monstrous yeah flying taka realizes that in withdraws yeah so basically in tournaments like especially with vampires it's really really really oppressive if you uh yeah talk to taco would win it like especially with four of them because what you could do is you could have la mean Lord of argyll feta mortis engine or you could have la mean Lord to bar gulfs and mortis engine here you're allowed to have five SEM in total but only three of them can be like monstrous like kind of types like the Vargo so basically you could have a vampire lord you know a white king and then if she was on foot for example you could then have like all these big boys yeah so basically we'll be pretty relaxed about it no worries you guys one sec guys so I'm just gonna chat with the players here real quick guys so just give me a quick minute in the meantime you can take a look at the the glorious bracket for today currently we have random NYX and taco fighting to the bitter end so I'm just gonna chat with the lads ID so we can reap reap ich is the usual under banner so I'm gonna go check the banner rules I don't know if there's anything specific about this but well these guys of course are both like good sports so we can just read probably replay it cuz yeah you know I don't want to just advance someone cuz I was an honest mistake yes one sec guys just pulling up the rules and all that sort of good stuff I don't know if there's anything in there about that yeah the new rules are really awesome by the way and yeah so let's actually share that with you guys now trust me the vampires are fine without it like one of the more abusive things for vampire counts like if you ever played in the early days of ladder and you're playing vampire counts for example and you have you know five bar girls running around with invocation it was just like the most oppressive thing ever it needs to be done trust me alright so just checking all this stuff yeah all right so we'll chat with the lads here I'm pretty sure I mean a random annex you know feel set he was doing okay in the game but I think that was because taco stopped stopped to read my message and just like was checking his army like instead of my crowing yeah it looked like it was gonna be a vampire count win because the more dissension was just gonna kill everything and then the scapin would just be stopped with their monsters just being dragged down I think yeah yeah Ludwig is a very good player he's been playing in a lot of tournaments yeah I guess what we could have done is probably had them play it out and just see and then if this gave an end up winning but yeah it's easy to say in hindsight so it's a tricky thing to do on the go king of the Dead did play in today's he did have it a very narrow loss in the best of three it was a really really good series yeah it's a really really good series does the hell seed count as an SEM alright so let me go ahead and get a link to the rules we're using they're really really good actually the document is awesome alright so let's go ahead and grab this they're in our discord so if you guys want to see let me make sure this works before I link it to you guys so for anyone who's interested you can look here and you can see the rules in this a Google Drive these are the rules we use it's really cool actually zyphus end eric Rasik arrow drafted the rules for the most part with influences from any other rule sets but also um you can see I could like pull it up on the screen that would actually be kind of cool maybe I'll like download it and show it to you guys yeah that's actually this would be a good time to do that hold on alright that's one sec say map [Music] cool yeah for SEM vampires especially within vacations even if you think you're getting up and they're able to get like oh man it just becomes so strong yeah hey you're very welcome yeah here's another link guys if you're looking to see the rules I'll pull them up on the screen to you let me go and download the PDF I don't know if the download is gonna look like this dream or something hopefully not okay we're downloading this very good very good probably have to set up like another window let me get the rolls on my desktop all right so the players are gonna remake their armies so yeah they both get a remake which is it's fine they're just gonna replay this is good and we're all friends here we don't need to be like super sticklers okay one sec here checking couple messages why is that not appearing here bear with me my friends hey you know where these guys don't worries yeah Ludwig has been playing in a ton of tournaments yeah yeah I don't think he's played in as many as mine but I've seen him playing in like tournaments on other people's channels and yeah he's really really good player all right so how can I show this how can I capture this and actually do that effectively here so if we go to a window capture I guess would it be a window capture PDF banner oh there we go that actually works alright so in the meantime we can kind of take a look at some of this while the players do this okay we haven't really done this on stream let's go and ready up so the players can just start whenever they're good to go so yeah these are the banner rules here so you'll notice that these are all the attributions like who did everything and you know who helped out and see the mighty typos doing all the good stuff here so these are like the rules for minimum size so for example there's limitations on an army has to contain 300 models right you guys can see all this right it's actually like showing okay good perfect see an army has to contain 300 models it's like so basically you can't have an army that has 299 troops you you have to have at least 300 because again one of the more abusive things about total war Warhammer and multiplayer was back in the early days of the game you'd see an army that would be like five bar gulps and like three more dissensions right and it's just like that was the most awful miserable army to play against you really have to do bounce out against like SEMS and things like that so oh man and I just slamming doors over there I guess she's battling the dogs so um yeah unit infantry limited to max five of any kind so you could have like five swordsmen you know five spearmen with shields but you could have like different variants right so you could have like four swords or five swordsmen and five spearmen with shields or five regular spearmen and then spearmen with shields and there's different rules for like all these different things right monsters infantry war beasts or limited to four of a kind so rare single entity which is denoted by an Asterix here is a maximum of three so that is the rule that was broken here so there's a lot going on you can see like there's a restricted unit list so the following units may only be taken once in an army so these are like you can only have one Titan once I Gore you can still summon other ones but these are like baseline so you can't bring more than one of these because they were pretty damn strong in the early days but anyways so these are all different restrictions attacking and a not attacking rule so these are what dictates when you have to engage when you don't have to engage so player must be attacking at all times this takes the form of expressing intent to attack by moving towards the enemy or actively expanding ammunition so again your attacking if you're shooting or moving towards your opponent and you can see not attacking generally any action performed by single entities because this is to abuse single ant like the biggest thing is dealing with like single entity stuff so oh my god and scroll down so this is where it gets really cool man look at this I posted some really awesome work with the graphic design so you can see here the limitations right maximum of five maximum of five here and you can see which ones you can only have two of granted and the ones that have the little marks here are special single entities so these you can only have three special single entities so you could have three giants or I mean not three Giants you could have two giants you could have a Sai Gore and then you can have like your Lord in the cast or as long as they're not on one of the special ones it's it's a lot to take in guys but it's really neat you can see like all the restrictions for the various factions it's it's really really well put together peace yeah alright so anyways I could go over that I'll probably do a separate video like going over all this stuff with you guys because right now it's just gonna take a while so we'll go back to the lobby here but yeah that's that's the document the banner rules it's really cool that's what we use for all our tournaments and things like that well there's a bunch of rule sets and they're all good they're just different yeah it's a lot to get into but like once you kind of get playing a little bit it's easy to remember most of it it's just like alright you just attack you know you can't pick so many of these units like it's not too hard yeah yeah it depends though you have to you have to take a look I can't remember if the salon is included yeah the salon rule I think is for croque i can't remember but those are the current rules and they're always evolving and changing based on like the metagame and things like that so you can't take two of our goals to tear goose and a dragon no you can't but you can take you can take a dragon and two bar gulps or a dragon a goose and of argyll and then two white kings on ground the white kings don't count is rare single entities they're just basic single entities which go towards your cap of five yeah we linked the rules up above wicked maybe if you could drop a link for people there's some new folks joining I'd like to see it yeah certain amount it's different you yeah you have to look for your particular faction so this is good it's gonna get random Nick's a chance to like redo his build you know cuz I really despite random thinking he might have had a chance there I really think he was in bad shape especially with four SEMS it's like that Fargo could have just ran away from the help it's healed and then like everything else had gotten wrecked so bad by breath attacks and things I think he was in some trouble so this is good for him he gets the opportunity to repack here to have a favorite go-to faction yeah right now it's Empire yeah vampire I don't know what you're saying uh marce mer skull but hope you're doing well man yes no worries I'll get you guys a link after this game if uh if we don't get one until then yeah it's a really cool really really cool graphics too we had to we had to restart because there was a rule break so here you can see oh wow yeah he changed his build quite a bit tako basically brought the same build like taco brought double bar golf you see this is the thing though there's no more dissension now so had a had random gone for the same same build here he would have been in much better shape but he changed his bill so he's got council guard he's got a grace here on the furnace engine which is gonna be really good so now he has his on board ascension which is very strong a grey seer of ruin as well for the howling war keel which is very powerful yeah I like this army he's got clean rats he's got routers he's got rattling Gunners actually and poison when mortars work rynders and yes pretty much of defensive box no help it's though a little bit concern how he's gonna deal with the bar goals but I mean route augers can kind of feasibly fight them double rattling gutter that's very interesting here guys very interesting wicked thank you so much wick is just wick is handling it right now look at him go man so the first one that wicked dropped is linked to any rules and then the second one is discord I know a lot of people who don't play in a lot of tournaments and multiplayer might look at the rules and be like oh it's really oppressing my favorite faction this and that but you know and trust me a lot of those things are needed if you've ever played like early day quick battles or custom battles where there's no limitations on single entities they're one of the more abusable things in the entire game so you really need to have some rules on them yeah so there's no more dissension so right now you can see he currently has the rules correctly followed he has the Alami in vampire lore to bar gulps which is his three rare single entities now he also has a white king on foot the white king on foot counts as a single entity as well towards his five but it's not a rare single entity so you are allowed to have this yeah just coming super wide I mean basically zombies skeletons the VAR ghosts and the dragon are the breadwinners 100% and you know what's interesting is the breadth attacks aren't gonna be as punishing here that's for sure and here are you so deciding the kind of camp in the trees a little bit which I ups and downs it will penalize the large monsters for fighting in the treeline and the more dissension effect will be very good here but my concern is that this gaming troop quality will not hold up super long grants if there's no more descendants so I guess even basic clan rats and council guard can hold here um we had them rebuild the armies yeah we just had them rebuild the armies and you know the situation is that you know yeah because they messaged they messaged arrow pastic and he gave him like a rule ruling and and they were just doing what he suggested so I don't really know what the specifics were but because sometimes you know it's not it's not a fun situation to be in when you're having to cast the tournament also have to like enforce the rules at the same time it's like tricky because you're there you're chatting with the players it's nice to have like a third party make a ruling yeah so that is that it depends and there's like different obviously depending on the rule break and the nature of it you you have different punishments and things like that it's kind of tricky but I'm not really sure what they decided on aside from rebuilding the armies the in-game unit caps are different for sure like for example in in the ladder rules and total work quick battle rules you can only have five regiments burn out whereas in this so you can have as many as you want there's like some differences for sure yeah yeah there's tons of other great rule sets I mean there's the Warhammer Cup I know V claw here has his own rule set in there you know they're all different and they all have their ups and downs I'm sure I I haven't explored too many other rule sets because typically I focus more in casting I mean I I played with Werner Merc up for a long time and then we have been using this one but yeah I'm open to exploring and yeah hopefully someday the community can all kind of you know follow like one or two rule sets but they're similar enough honestly okay it's not a big deal alright guys and here we are the battle is underway the Skaven certainly of a nice little position here um well I mean vampire Lord does have the pendulum this time yes I mean tacos Army is more or less the same he just cut the more dissension and got more crypt tours that's like basically all he changed which is good and so you know the advantage him anyways did go to random cuz he was able to read pick his army here and uh and yeah I don't see how this goes mortars are gonna be nice for sure for clearing chaff going after some zombies initially he's gonna want to be targeting skeletons and yeah one or other mortar does against like like monsters units like what kind of damage it does over time yeah yeah rule breaks are it's tricky to enforce and total war and that's one of the biggest kind of factors that holds back competitive total world war hammers like you know the battlefield dynamics and things like that that's what the rules do the best to address it and for the most part that you could but there are issues of course so here comes the poison wind mortars shooting in to the zombies getting some work in the rattling Gunners are gonna be able to put some pepper most certainly into the crypt tours it's just more of an issue of defending them does he have counsel Vardhan pretty sure he does yeah he's got counsel guard over on the flank here I feel like counsel guard should be more centralized like back here and just leave some like laner out source gave and slaves to kind of defend that position the grace ears and the bells will be able to you know they are bonus percent country AP pieces so they can actually kill the White King in combat which is nice Ward is still shooting in now going after these skeleton warriors if the vampire counts do end up blobbing up the mortars will be very punishing and honestly getting some good value so far rattling Gunners gonna be teeing off the hundred-percent one of focus of our goal so if the var goals get too close that is the bread winning situation it's kind of a cool strategy right because you pull in the vampire counts you use the warp rynders to punish them and you prospered from there I honestly think both armies here certainly have some some teeth and can do some work it's really gonna come down to micro execution and the engagements that the players take I don't think it's one of those like builds we're like one build is just gonna run the other one over so the play crews here is gonna be using a summit it looks like I wonder if he's gonna be plagued monks no it's gonna be clan rats used to buffer here warp grinders are moving up and oh man if he locks a vargulf in place if he locks them both in place right now and both rattling got her switched on to this vargulf that would just be huge back to like win him the game that could straight up one in the game he needs use the war pounders and the rattling Gunners need to switch off the skeleton Spears they need to start pounding our goal here 100% and the back we do get a plague Munk summit which will be a nice tool against the the peace earth and the dusk who've come in the round Gunners are now switching who that's gonna be some docket right there yeah and you can see the vargulf is getting melted by that rattling gunner fire oh my god the brutal firepower coming in one vargulf is just probably down for the count here if not very very low man what a cool play here by random and you can see flying tacos reacting by sending everything oh and inhaling warp gill on the lobby and vampire lord nice stuff and the bar Gulf is crumbling rattling Gunners have switched fire here they're now shooting up in the sky at the lobby and vampire lord but you know it's gonna be hard to protect those the escape and frontline is buckling rather rather aggressively and there's a lot to protect here but yeah the rattling gunner combo seems to be doing pretty well I don't know this gaben frontline is is certainly the big issue here I feel like council gotta need to be back here like helping against all this stuff here salami vampire lord getting pounded pretty good by slingers and rattling Gunners and various other units plague bugs back here trying to fend off the Crypt tours and here we all said rat ogres defending where they can but now that the rattling Gunners are a little bit kind of a compromise in melee I'm certainly concerned balance of power is of course gaben favorite but that's simply because of the DPS have done so far it doesn't necessarily reflect the current state of the battle and yeah the lobbying plant part Lords running for the hills but the thing is the vampires are closing in and they're certainly getting some good damage the mortis hundred effect will be very good and oh my god the rattling Gunners are they gonna finish the salami and Lord one of them is still kind of shooting it's confident it's kind of trapped in melee a little bit but if they can go guard mode and keep shooting that Lamia Lord Kid for sure go down the plate grace here is getting a great mortis engine effect just doing so much damage mortars they're still kind of shooting here another howling warp gale going down which does lock this character in place here the Crypt ores are starting to gain balance of power certainly Skaven favor at this point but again the monsters could win the fight if the vampires are able to survive this pressure I mean both rattling Gunners are still actually like healthy which is surprising okay a little bit of laga for a second I I felt the dreaded the dreaded crash coming in so yeah Council guard I think should have been in the middle the whole time it's giving the vampires kind of a lot of free range here in the back and the plague priest needs to be kept alive we have some ogres and slingers coming back which certainly could be helpful and some of these other units yeah the vampires are kind of running out a chap on the ground though and now the rattling Gunners are free to fire a nice warp round your play able to get some good snares here and you can see the Lamia vampire Lord is getting rattling gun who would have thought rallying Gunners and it's kind of a cool thing that is very very cool indeed and yeah the the Lamia vampire lurch is trying to survive rattling Gunners do not new magic damage but they do have a suppression mechanic and the damage he was able to give them the bar go earlier really really paying off here in the fourth quarter it's game now crypt roars are fighting they're fighting the good fight the warp renders of course not happy to be trapped in melee combat play priest needs to be kept alive and engaged over here to try and wear down some of the chapel if it can look at this even the grace here on the Bell is getting getting dirty and trying to fight here well I mean Lord able to get away which is really really big for the taco a Council guard are gonna be a pain to kill especially without a mortis engine effect when the vampires that's why I may be seeing a wild helming Gorst would have been interesting here right the rattling Gunners do risa cure their position and now they're firing and it looks like they might be able to finish off this Fargo it's very very low negative 28 but I always felt like rumbling should be a little bit more punishing seismic snare going down really nice the work rounder is able to get a snare here and lock that bar goals in place and it looks like the grace here is gonna be coming in to try and finish off that bar goal negative 3200 HP it gets rammed it's down to 230 very very low but the Skaven have also lost their play crease so the more dissension effect has gone for now this bar goal should go down negative 30 Cromley needs to be more punishing for sure that things should be like 100 so he doesn't anyway but some of the rattling Gunners are steady the unholy clamour is gonna be giving a leadership up and now they'll probably turn and shoot negative 31 and is it gonna break negative 65 yep down it goes so the plague priests is back random Nick's definitely wants to drop some summons before this thing goes if he can or you could be saving us when some magic and some of the rattling Gunners are focus firing here again salami and Lord yeah I think the council guard might be too much and down goes the furnace nice play there by flying taco able to isolate and take down the board ascension affect one of the vampires have left they have a white King you have some crypt ores of this gaben actually Val OTT of stuff on the periphery of the battlefield that's rallying back and the mortars coming back could be useful but it looks like they're not going to warp grinders have locked the lobby and vampire Lord in place and now you can see the council guard are moving in for the kill well I mean Lord rapidly approaching a ceiling cap here and man the grace here of Brune this guy's uh he's gonna have to be the hero that this gave in need I mean you know the Bell Tolls Whom the Bell Tolls perhaps the vampire counts we will see balance power is getting a little bit more vampire favorite as their death start here is really starting to get a lot of a good value in that Lamia vampire Lord is somewhat healthy Skaven do have some troops coming back though like I said slingers and mortar teams here who that's actually even if like any of these mortars my contact here with the vampires that's gonna be really really nice here they come shooting in is able to hit those little golems over there and now the council guard are fighting against the d'Ivoire Gulf and the White King waiking they're certainly quite nice crypto Rizzo able to chase off many of the route and Gunners ogres and slingers are coming back any sort of slinger pressure would be very very useful here near come salami and Lord thankfully for the sake of this game and the council guard arm breakable so they are getting good steady damage here and a lot of the vampire force here is crumbling down these ogres are gonna be intercepted definitely should have probably charged them into the crypt ores to at least get some damage we'll see what happens with the little golem squad over here so now we have some scape and slave swingers those could be certainly a huge huge kind of boon here and some work rounders coming back in the white Kings gonna be a problem too for sure definitely gonna be a problem the grace here is pulling back nice breath attack but it is dodged to apply the grace here so good response there from random nicks the White King is a problem to you because it gives really good sustainability against the against the council guard here here are some crypt wars are pushing in to try and solve this problem Scouts grave going down as well and the brown ogres actually appear to maybe get back here some escaping slaves are maybe gonna get in as well under those clan masters game is like hard to say yeah random Nick's definitely I think had the advantage for most the game but taco was able to pull it out by surviving with his fricking lawmen Lord but look at this the work rounders coming back it's a little bit risky for taco to land here with the work rounders because if the halbert's are able to kind of get some steady poking it looks like there's gonna be a howling war PL which is gonna lock down the flying lord here howling work kill doesn't do damage though it just locks in place so she's kind of buying time for the horse here so tacos coming in and man those mortar teams are still paying their dues wearing down those units of work grinders used as well which is actually gonna lock block the Crypt ores in combat definitely very solid you like the bounce powers a little bit punishing to this game in here like I feel like this game is actually pretty close so the Crypt roars are getting beaten down very very quickly but there's another kind of wave of vampires coming in mortar teams are trying their best then the law being lured up in this guy gets a really nice breath attack right down the pipe ooh that could be a game-winner and he does get me grace here of rune of random nicks yeah it's looking tough here comes the White King the White King getting run over the Lamia and Lord yeah there's another of our goals to the bar Gophers chasing stuff off council guard is certainly very scary here but I don't think it's gonna be enough army loss is gonna be hitting this guy all right GG well played man that was a game that was quite a game what a cool build I mean random mixes build was awesome man I really thought he was gonna take that with the early damage but of course it was kind of a flimsy built in some ways not in a bad way but the front line was very poor at the expense of having a super meaty you know honestly maybe how'd he cut the poison when mortars cuz like the thing is random nicks had the plate crease to kill the Horde he just like the mortars for another liability but I guess they did okay damage but again she's skeletons like cuz most vampires aren't gonna bring like grave guard against force cave and I don't think I think the mortars were a bit of an issue but the double of rattling gunners were really cool random nicks uh played a really really good game and so did taco talk it was able to really stabilize after taking a pounding in the beginning so let's update that it's gonna be 2-1 here and gg gg well played random dick saying well good luck in the final I'm sure we'll see random nicks back next week Bard's Oh dojo my friend that was an excellent game eat some pierogi enjoy life no problem that was a really entertaining game she was close could have gone either way I think the council guard not being in the center of mass of the fight was a big issue because they allowed the vampires like rushed through and get into the gun line like it was defending a flank against like some skeletons and like one crypt or I think but just you know a little bit of a topical analysis there I don't know if it's necessarily accurate so taco stay here ludwig is going to join up now for a best-of-five final you're up the mighty ludwig cometh yeah to help its are definitely strong you know I actually think that um random mixes first build would have won that game cuz without the mortis engine to punish all the storm vermin I think he would have been able to endure but on both builds were very viable right like had taco switched it up to something else I don't know yeah both hills were good honestly but I'm pretty sure random was gonna lose that first game with the four single entities even if he killed one bar go if they were still like so many other monsters he had to deal with yeah alright so let's go ahead and reset the scoreboard it's gonna be it's gonna be let's see Ludwig just gonna put Ludwig for short so let's go ahead and do the plains of the Dead map set this is the Grand Finals of today's event a little bit of lag the foretelling sometimes when you try and type in these chats and there's a little bit of lag it can happen yeah the the rattling gunner combo with howling war kills really cool until he punished the flying vampire Lords alright no problem so let's go ahead and update this thanks again for a Ryan for joining and casting the tournament appreciate having you uh having you here today man I see that he left the lobby so you're welcome to come back if you'd like but if you think there's lag no worries yes yeah the help it's uh help it's are definitely strong there's a couple ways you can play it so now way blued wig facing off against flying taco so let's go ahead and update the four-man bracket oh we still have the rules there so it's good hide that for now very well played random I'm king of the dead and now it's gonna be taco against we wake here in the grand finals any advice on a guilt army composition it depends on the matchup dark Baphomet but typically with guilt guilt can you know a plague of wrestling so things that normally lack armor-piercing like Knights of the Blazing Sun you can get some cool synergies with that like bring down armor using like low AP units yeah I don't know you'd have to tell me a matchup and then I could answer your question a little bit better but thank you guys for joining today do you appreciate having you all here and we're getting into the grand final so for anyone just joining this is the final countdown so players can do their picks and bans so Ludwig is gonna go Empire banning Lizard Men and dwarves interesting I always felt like Empire had an okay matchup Rissa lizards but now applying talkable have the opportunity to choose here it's in delicious sparkly water Valco knows it crashes the entire game so like if you're playing in a tournament and there's the vampire count crashbug it crashes it for everyone the casters the spectators the players yeah it's really ridiculous it like literally just freezes the game yeah yeah totally crashes everyone yeah it's really unfortunate really unfortunate indeed so let's get back to the lobby now ludwig for his flying taco picks and bans are underway so currently tacos on the pick goods empire you know whenever phil display vampire counts again just came off a vampire count game i need to join one of these is it hard to join no it's not you just got to hang out in the discord and my multiplayer discord and when I announce it you just sign up using this website called challenge but it takes like a couple seconds to set up yeah it's it's really straightforward grim so just get in there and shoot me a direct message and I can give you details or just hang out and when I doing everyone tag saying there's a tournament coming up you just join so it's gonna be green skins force Empire yeah it's a classic matchup I always really enjoy this one so we saw this earlier from on the other end we saw flying taco using the Empire to claim victory now we will see I'm curious what Ludwig will do differently will he bring Baltimore the grim and kind of go that route or is he gonna kind of change change it up a little bit does he have some sneaky scheming perhaps so yeah it's a we had sixty people playing today which is cool I think the most we've ever had is like 80 or 90 in in one of these ecl's although I only really promote it link it in my own discord I suppose if I went to some other ones we could probably get more of it that's that's a good number I think I don't know if it crashes single-player I think it does but it's pretty rare doesn't happen too often so Empire wears green skins once again the nation calls man hell yeah I've kind of like been back and forth about my tabletop empire army how I want to paint them and I think I've decided I'm gonna go with the right-click like the old-school this paint scheme I'm gonna be like white and red it's just like feels so wrong to do anything other than classic Empire I mean I can paint a couple units like Knights and more but yeah we'll see turn do you have any idea when the next qualifier might be probably midweek sometime or next weekend at the latest so it would be like Wednesday or Saturday probably yeah I'll figure it out it depends on when so tech wants to finish our head to heads this week if he does I'll also be doing some king of the hill so if you guys are looking to practice for these king of the hills or a decent place to get some pick and ban practice and different things like that I know it's always hard to always got a route for the Empire man it's hard not to the nation calls to Ludwig 15,000 he's not lewd he's not just Ludwig he is Ludwig 15,000 that is serious business his power level is above 9,000 and no jokes are had here yeah I've seen him playing a lot of tournaments oh I think he's only played in a couple of my qualifiers but in the previous seasons it'll be interesting to see I mean the grand finals if any of you guys are wondering so far we have a very serious grand finals so if we go to the player list we have two excellent soothsayer and hissing and Falcone all of whom have qualified so they can't play again this season they have to just wait for the grand finals basically but uh those three lads have qualified for the grand finals and it's going to be looking to be pretty serious so either it's gonna be Ludwig or chalk over here and players do have the opportunity to qualify every week so they can play every time I have a qualifier they can try so that's what I'd like to have happen someday for ever chosen of course it depends on you know what creative assembly kind of wants to do but for ever chosen what I'd like to do someday this is kind of like my dream is that each of the ever chosen hosts right so you have or tournament you know community tournament guys we could totally figure it out but basically you would have to ever chosen qualifiers on my channel to anse parties to on so text and like to UM party leads or you know if they don't want to host the qualifiers we can have them run by some of the of course other creators in the community who put on great tournaments you can do that but and then each each of us would have two qualifiers for ever chosen and like it would be open to anyone so like it's like a massive open qualifier for ever chosen then the winners get to play it so it'd be the same format as ECL but just host it on different platforms I think it'd be really fun I'd love for ever chosen to be like an open format Sunday yeah we will see I'd be kind of cool I don't know though it's just it would be really funny we create like a lot of hype going into right cuz I always feel like every chosen is like announced like a couple days prior and it's like you should have like a month of hype I think yeah now Deacon scale singer cuz I don't think I'll be able to end the head-to-head with so tech right away because vampire counts have this like that raise dead it's just nonsense like they can I killed both of so text armies like outside of his territory and like a turn later Vlad is sitting and like not even a turn Vlad fell back to the city raised dead and recruited an entire army with like grave garden crypt tours again yeah yeah so like I I'm pretty sure I will get there but the greenskins are also there as well um danger cat when will the net next magic stream be probably sometime this week like Tuesday or Thursday yeah I know Josh we're getting close to 100k man if you guys aren't sup to the channel join the party man let's get us to 100k will do a glorious mullet stream I think it's something really fun yeah but like you can wipe vampire counts in campaign and like if they have a raise dead like good pile they can just like rebuild army instantly it's not gonna be a great army but it's still enough to like slow you down especially if you're turtling in a city you know however city must for sure for sure yeah someday though I hope we can get it like that though that would be definitely very exciting for me cuz then it's kind of cool too cuz like each each each of the casters will have like two champions that qualified on there they're qualifiers right and then like there's some there's some skin in the game as they say yeah fun so Kem Sokha basically how king of the hill works is you I announce it and then you just you just respond and say put your name into the sign up pull and then I randomly shuffle the players who play because typically we have like 30 or 40 sign ups but yeah shoot me a message we'll get you in don't worry yeah well typically Deacon there's a limitation on when we're allowed to talk about it so because a lot of times it coincides with like content so there's like restrictions on it yeah what is the reason behind having a limit on single entity units so if you've ever if I went into a battle and I was playing vampire counts and I had freaking seven bar golsan like three or five bar gulps like three terror guys to mortise engines and like a vampire caster it would be so insanely annoying to play against and defeat it's just like single entities are one of the things that really break the game in some respects if you can get a lot of them that's why if you've ever watched someone's campaign where they get a doomsday up like necro FX Colossus is just like unstoppable right and the same thing kind of applies in multiplayer so there needs to be researching yeah I know how does the Molen I'll have 100k subs yeah it's craziness it's craziness yeah anyways guys let us go ahead and focus here on the battle for Ludwig and the brave sons of sigmar spearmen frontline secondary is swordsmen it's gonna be Empire Knights pistol ears and an amber wizard with Manticore summon and Empire caps and actually on foot very interesting choice and both wear the grim so this build is like almost identical to what taco bra that's so funny like this this is the bill taco brought against random NICs like more or less oh man that's wild that is wild oh my god okay so let's see what taco does differently so flying taco brought a skirmish court a bunch of Haggard green skinned chaff units and work boys he's got two goblin wolf chariots okay this is the difference the triple stone troll stone trolls are really good at content fire knights and they can't fight bolt Mart for sure and it's gonna be scars neck scars neck of course rampage on volkmar is very very strong nodes alkaline though so there's no traditional like archers or anything like that no artillery instead he invested very heavily in the triple stone troll which is very strong yeah yeah some of that were chosen to have been done on early access builds like vampire coast which is I think it's really fun it's like a cool showcase it's not as balanced unfortunately because it's like before there's a lot of like multiplayer bouncing and things like that but yeah events historically ever chosen was kind of a more of a showcase event but it's becoming more competitive for sure yeah oh man Andrew pew that's funny but ya know definitely mean if you if you let like someone with really good multiplayer micro control like a vampire account single entity spam army like they will just oh god it's horrible horrible indeed horrible indeed be echoed armies from both players Volk where the grand will certainly win the frontline engagement but how is the Empire gonna deal with stones roles as my concern like if you look at this empire force its Empire Knights Empire Knights Empire Knights pistol ears like there's almost no ap in this empire army at all so the stone trolls are gonna be the biggest x-factor that's gonna be very very difficult to deal with for Ludwick however he does have mechanics that caused hair with volkmar and also he can break the leadership of trolls and chase him off which is honestly what he's gonna have to do if you can't break the leadership of the trolls he is going to get karate-chopped so damn hard so now it is time oh my god depth guard and the vampire coast DLC was just absurd when they first came out yeah that was pretty wild and now the battle is underway here you can see the Deaf's creepers and the wolf rider chariots are surging forward to poke the sons of sigmar I'm certainly concerned for Ludwig's army I think you have to respect the stone troll toll and if you don't they will make you pay the troll toll to get into the troll toll toll troll I'm just gonna keep saying that until I get tired yeah yes much that's something we've talked about as well it'll be something we'll figure out for sure yeah we will figure it out so volkmar the grim is now going to be leading his glorious charge here in the desert against the forces of the green skins grim soca thank you so much for not only your corrected donations but also for becoming a member channel who's your icon for many visits take different gay marriages thank you so much Grimm so Volk wear the grey I'm going to be charging in Spearman gonna be unbraced against a stone troll so the stone trolls are gonna go whole clobbering time and get their charge bonus of 34 min Spearman certainly taking a lot of damage on impact those bad boys are you know they're pretty resilient against basic Spears to it their armor and their regeneration so now we have a gooning attempts coming in bolt bars being hunted by a river troll Hagin scars Nick and what's gonna happen is if they can get Baltimore below 80% rampage and scars nick actually has a really good AP inside large especially with the AP of a giant rivotril hag Empire Knights in the meantime coming in to try and rescue Baltimore I think that currently Ludwig knows that a Baltimore get surrounded here he could actually go down to a lot of damage and yeah neither is being used a really all in attempts here from taco to try and take down both Martha Graham and we'll see if it pays off doesn't look like it though looks like volkmar is gonna be able to get away fermented fungi was used on something I think he missed clicked what did they use fermented fungi on use it on something yeah I saw the fermented fungi oh we use southern Empire nights which isn't bad keeps the Empire Knights in combat and lets them take some damage for sure but the manticore summon from the empire certainly very unexpected now across the battlefield frontline is a bit of a washer oh nice fanatic ball coming in brutal stuff from stars nick tearing through those state troopers certainly gonna buy some some time there for those or boys but the sound tolls are rotating down and around from this engagement now the soin trolls are gonna be really collecting over here Empire Knights charging and once again but again the lack of AP on these guys is gonna be is gonna be tough and true abuse as you actually pronounce my name right deserves cash I had a friend who had that same last name so I'm well practiced yeah cream Sokka that's what I thought man hey Andrew pew thank you so much the battle rages on bounce of power is pretty even Manticore somewhat of course is a false inflation so it's not gonna necessarily accurately depict to the current state of the battle but the stone troll is proven to be very effective here and some have taken some damage but you have to notice that you have to twelve stone trolls here we have eleven here and on the far side we also have twelve all of which are healing and the manticore summon is rapidly dissipating it seems like tacos build is working well obviously the big issue we saw earlier against wolf bar is there wasn't any high mass answers to really stop him from just being a bully and oh look at this man the giant river troll hag actually uh looks like she took a ton of damage from volkmar who does do fire damage yeah that's pretty crazy so she gets chased off that's actually a pretty big boon here for her Lou and it looks like there are gonna be some goblins for flying taco sent in to absorb their charge and maybe buy some time for the rivers whole hog to come back and yeah taco noses he sends in all these routing assets or rallied assets to try and save that situation it's back in the center we have the dual of duals welcomed on the gram is pulled in by the goblin wolf chariots and some work boys but now scars Nikki warlord abate peaks with his anti large tanks trying to catch bolt mark the bolt Mars cart is pulled by the faith of Sigma which is fast and powerful and it looks like he is gonna be able to get away there so we'll certainly see how that goes so now comes the goblin wolf chariots cycle charging once again but it looks like one of them is broke and Empire Knights being chased down but the stone trolls and/or core boys certainly a very good counter against those guys and very very unfortunate here for flying or not for flying talk about for Ludwig is the fact that the Ripper troll hack who was so close to not being a factor anymore is back and her giant sack of meat is now going to be beating down some of these Empire Knights here a nice soul fiber and barmy going down potentially but it looks like Ludwig or flying taco excuse me was able to dodge that and here we have the Empire captain and the wizard actually going after scars think which is interesting empire captain as a bit of a foot based tech piece against scars Nick really isn't terrible actually the scars think still has good appian with a y octave 500 plus weapons rank well that was active man that is nasty what an absolute knock-down drag-out game there's something really close a banishment temps going down here was gonna be trying to get the desk creepers it looks like but they are able to dodge a flying taco paying attention both players playing a very tight game here so intro was able to route this position with a little bit of goblin support looks like the Empire will lose this and now it looks like the Empire is rapidly falling apart as the Empire Knights and the Empire captain being taken on my scars Nick I mean everything is so beat up and the big problem is stone trolls are still here in fair amount of numbers 10/10 and I think there's 12 over here and pretty much impeccable shape so I really just don't think volkmar is gonna be able to take all that in the Empire like lacks at this point lacks mobility advantage of the wolf chariots and the skirmishers are going to be able to happily chase off I'll be rallying rallying Empire forces to make sure they don't come back and also the hag is here she's healing the trolls are healing I mean maybe a gooning attempt on scars think is an idea def scrapers gonna be charging in to help but you know volkmar will take a lot of damage from scars nick as well scars nick has kind of a weird thing where like other foot lords get knocked over but he doesn't he does couch his small also but scars nick because of Goblin I guess he doesn't like fall over as much or at all I don't even know if he does yeah and something interesting to think about here both are the game I've taken some shanks for sure 2500 2200 taking a ton of damage and I think Empire's getting dangerously close to army losses here we do have the duel the river troll hag Charon is speaking to the Empire's manager mither and spirit leech is acting and how the stone trolls are gonna be coming in to clear clubs and nobody likes to get hit in the face with a giant stack of stinky meat even if you are a nature of the wilds or a caster of the wilds yeah that's gonna be army losses and that is GG flying taco claimed claiming game 1 here in the grand finals yeah well played so it's cool we got to see this earlier and you know Ludwig brought almost an identical build to that empire built right and we got to see the other side of the coin here the centrioles are very good against empire guys a very very good pick I actually bring hand Gunners in this matchup now just to deal with them yeah they're strong you didn't have any answer to the trolls like he still did well considering Ludwig played very solid with what he had but the stone trolls like you didn't have any AP and like that's where like a Franz or a Boris or hand Gunners or outriders you need to bring AP against greenskins now because of stone trolls alright that's gonna be game one going to the flying taco and it now we go on to the next match all right perfect weakens you the what does that map gotta pick something we don't normally do the shimmer sward is the one is it the song I think it's something song summer song yeah summer song is the map I just got to find it and I'll do here anything's down here somewhere the summer saw it's not shimmer sword I'm pretty sure it's summer song yeah that's it hey Samuel Christensen thank you for the donation man he says uh why do you see Reich's card anymore it's kind of like Reich's card are weird because they're they're better shot cab but like for the price point I feel like you just want to go up tonight's of the Blazing Sun to get the magic resist and fire damage so like they're just in this awkward place where they're like not that much better than Empire nights and they're not as good as night to the Blazing Sun so they just are stuck in this awkward place yeah absolutely that's my my two cents Ludwig Doon work yeah shimmer sward is a good map I think is it I think summer song is good also I hope it is yeah so flying tacos gonna go to Kings banning coast and Dwarfs you can you guys notice that warps get banned a lot actually because they're such hard counters to certain matchups yeah yeah Carl and Boris are both good in I what I actually do like Volcom are a lot but you got to bring something to stop the central's so I died to the Blazing Sun not so much against screen skins I used them against uh norske to kill skin wolves yeah I really like Knights of the Blazing Sun in that matchup against against what I would do against greenskins is I would probably bring four empire Knights silver bullets hand Gunners volkmar flagellants Sigmar Suns in the front line and maybe like a single cannon to shoot the trolls yeah yeah blaze and Sun are bad there too it's just not my playstyle I prefer Empire Knights but yeah you may drag scarred Knights ap 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man I really do I really do man that like I know I shouldn't just do man oh man alright well Ludwick 15,000 is he gonna turn it up to 15,000 here oh we got Bertone yeah the Knights are poor Tony I shall be your shield so high for this man it's gonna be good thank you guys all for your support really do appreciate it okay no it's gonna be house Ludwig blue balling us they're getting us all excited for petunia which actually actually does have a bit of an itch against team kinks and then switching to Ohio's I actually do want to do reponse versa Tomb kings head-to-head some time to River trolls have any applications not really they just kind of south go out and see the buff isn't like good enough to justify them like Peter Nelson and like to answer your question like basic trolls are just better like they have like I'm pretty sure they hit harder and the do more or less the same thing the buff is just isn't that good no no it's just like I don't mind getting donations but like it's just it's just so generous holy [ __ ] man grim soca coming in with another hundred dollar donation huh thank you so much man grim that's so grim soak is donated let's see how much day holy [ __ ] man it's just out of control three hundred dollars today grim soca dude I hope you just got some fat payday or like sold some stock thank you so much man that's a that's and that's some life-changing money for sure and it does help a lot it does help a lot because after I get my surgery on the 9th of July I'm gonna be kind of a I'll still have videos going up but I won't be able to stream as much for like a week or two so it does help a lot man thank you so much that is a very very generous of you yeah the RoR river trolls are the one niche there that they're okay Peter because they Peters also my dad's name because they cause terror and they have like better combat sense so Jude Grimm soca man I can't thank you enough you guys want me to cut my mullet off and send it to him as a gift hey well Thank You Man Lee you provide us with our to entertainment yeah thank you dude mail him the mullet oh my god I get a fat I get fat paydays every week all right grim Sokka I hope that's hope that's the case Thank You Man oh man that is that is so generous dude you want a lock of my mullet just the cut part of it and send it that's that's some creepy stuff there are you getting surgery for your hand yeah so I'm getting three surgeries on one day on on July 9th I had to reschedule was originally the six the doctor called and said they had to change it but I'm getting a carpal tunnel release I'm getting a cubital tunnel release in my elbow and then they're doing a flexor tendon sheath release my flex returning to my wrist yeah so the doctor is really confident that um it'll fix my issues after I go through the recovery period so I'm super freakin excited like obviously I'm not gonna be like I was when I was 19 or 20 but like better than I am now dude give me that all day I'm super excited yeah so it's gonna be July 9th yeah I'll put up a video on the channel letting you guys know I'm gonna preload video so for like I'll have two weeks worth of videos like going up I probably won't be streaming during that time as much but um yeah yeah sounds good grim is just shoot me a message of what you want yeah you sent grim soca did you get the high elf piece is that what you asked for it before the his lady turned did some custom art for you before I know that's the thing like I'm fairly certain I could I'd love to play more community tournaments but I always kind of like I'll get to the semifinals or even close to the finals and then my hand just is so messed up I have to drop out that's like the problem gift people my mullet like Galadriel oh my god stream the surgery I'll talk to the doctor about it guys yeah the mullet is growing dude it's growing I have carpal tunnel cubital tunnel syndrome and my flexor tendon has severe tendinitis and apparently they found a assist on top of my tendon my flexor tendon in my right hand that I've had for a long time the other doctors missed it this doctor was able to catch a lot of my issues that the other ones just had wrong the other doctors I was seeing before is just like another doctors like yeah man let's just give you more steroid injections and eventually it might get better and just like I'm like okay thanks like that's useless so I just like I'm crippled for like ten years because of just poor management from the doctors right and then I meet this guy he's like oh yeah like they just missed this [ __ ] and they should have done this and like it'll fix you up I'm like finally Jesus like I don't know if it'll work a hundred percent like you never know with surgery it might not but like I'm confident for the first time in a long time that I've hope which I haven't had for years I've just figured I'm gonna live like this my whole life yeah so I'm super excited guys yeah I should wait leaned over as they're about to cut your hand open whispered blood for the blood god oh my god Sierra best of luck with the surgery turn thanks for the content you create thank you man or woman not sure it's here really do appreciate it thank you so much here maybe it can be in a team tournament who know something knows who knows my friends I know like I've been I've been without hope for so long I've had this crippling problem since I was freaking 21 years old and I used to be like very fit and athletic like I was big into weightlifting did college sports played football and then like I just like emaciated over like ten years like my lost my athleticism got out of shape just like I kept trying to exercise but just kept reading my shoe and I'm just like I know this doctors great man he's really cool I like him he like took the time and was really really good with his examination and like yeah I trust this guy so you think so nah she calls the severest problems probably but I'm sure Sloan Ashe like just like blankets it so they don't notice it yeah that's it oh yeah there's you know ninety I think ninety eight point two percent of my channel viewership is men and I think like 1.8 percent is women so there are some black black Philip I have no idea dude it's not it's not my birthday you got the vampire counts painting alright grams okay you you said you got the vampire council in the first time okay you let me know which one you want much love right back at you dude look you're staying safe from these times your mom so somebody chat Berg says I'm ready so Ludwig is still working on his army by the way guys I'm not like delaying here I'm waiting for the players and you know some people put time limits on the players but I'm I'm having fun chatting with you guys my mom had MS Vic dice misdiagnosis Geoff's carpal tunnel for a long time nearly 20 years until they actually figured it out Jesus man yeah what is the surgeries entail so what they are gonna do is they go into the carpal tunnel so basically the carpal tunnel is like literally a tunnel of sorts it's a it's your nerves which are surrounded by a carpal tunnel sheath so that what they do is they there's an inflammation of your sheath in the carpal tunnel which presses on your nerves and gives you weak and grip it weakens your whole hand so they really cut the top of the sheath and open it just like leave it open and then it takes the pressure off your nerves which can then start functioning properly in your hands the same thing for the elbow cubital tunnel syndrome is like the same basically they just kind of take the sheath off or cut the top of the sheath and open up and relieve your nerves and then for the flexor tendon it's kind of a similar treatment as well it's it's just all the inflammation of the tendon sheaths which are pressing on various sensitive points in your body yeah oh this is the best-of-five so it there's there can't be just one more game yeah - sherman i love that his hand was led by the craven weakened by the incompetent but hey grimm say okay get some rest man drive safe get some freakin delicious coffee my i don't know if this is what you do but it sounds like it my a lot of people on my mom's side of the family were actually truckers and I used to when I was a kid there was a couple so I went on these like long road trips with them and man it was always fun seeing these different parts of the world and stuff like that much love man take care and Grimm thank you so much for your donations again yeah wicked I've heard carpal tunnel surgeries like it generally almost always works which is great all right guys so let's go ahead and take a look at the Army's it is time it's gonna be the tomb kings of the flying taco facing off against the High Elves are we gonna get a allusive Heil victory I know you guys say I know it'd probably be free in the UK here I'm probably gonna have to pay like four grand or something stupid like that God US healthcare freakin sucks so bad but I'm not gonna get into that now all right so for the high alts we've got bird Tecla certainly good fire damage against Tim Kings Lords is always solid and he's just a raid boss to kill so I like this choice quite a bit another great Eagle for gooning potential going after caskets who shop to great bows you name it and here for the rest of the tomb Kings it's gonna be white lions spearmen no silver and guard three basic archers so really all of the anti armor is coming from more or less tech less in this bolt or which is a little bit concerning Lee I'm like trying to think how he's gonna take down this big Titan boat you know bird checklist is pretty well for sure pretty wild indeed yeah death rabbits has Tara near the chillers Pro and we love you I pick I've been becoming more of a bro not in a bad way lately but like late at night I'll just like lay there like rubbing my my growing pot belly just drinking a beer just like watching some like gaming [ __ ] on YouTube it's pretty gay yeah US healthcare sucks yeah that let's just leave it at that so for the forces here flying taco front line of skeleton spears a little bit of dhaka sin skeleton archers two groups of sepulchral stalkers now just one who shot you a pose well essentially the imperishable and I could have sworn I saw Titan somewhere give it to me did I see it seitan in the distance oh no I mistook it it was actually just cetera I got so excited see my concern is the anti armor I feel like bird tech list doesn't have a lot about you don't armor AP just by himself had to handle all this yeah yeah we'll see a grim appreciate it drive safe sleep well I don't know I don't actually know how it goes to get like polish citizenship because I'm of course married to my lovely lady turn who is polish you know we'll see also free in Canada I know one good thing about like the health care I have is like I can go to any doctor I don't have to get like referrals and stuff so I can just like go to whoever I'm like you know basic treatment isn't that expensive it's mainly just like the big stuff transformers were once truck drivers and then they taste of the war who does this matchup favor I really don't know to be honest I mean I would lean towards tomb Kings but you know the one thing I'm surprised we're not seeing here from flying taco is a casket of souls caskets just wreck the aisle force is like they kill the archers the infantry and like a bull Thor can shoot back at it but it's out ranged so it takes a while to get in range and then the casket is able to just do so much damage before all that happens yeah yeah yeah like the actual care you get from the physicians in the US is decent like right but it's just the cost it's it's mainly the cost and insurance system that's bad it's not like the health care you get is bad because we have great doctors here like over at UCLA and USC and all these places but it's just the cost that's prohibitive I should probably articulate my point and just say that that is that is what I'm referring to it's like you pay like $400 a month for insurance and then you go to the doctor and like they're like oh that's gonna be you know an $80 or $100 copay like what like oh you want to get tested for allergies here's the $300 allergy panel it's like what I'm paying 400 a month for this what and then I also have to pay 400 for that it's just thoughts absurd yeah anyways yeah the caught the cost is the problem the healthcare here is good we have good doctors they do a great job except the one doctor that's on my head before not him okay so the shop you great boughs are shooting downtown right now they're going after the white lines of Crace and uh certainly doing some decent damage and here you can see the eyes of the desert a pretty good countermeasure actually eyes at the desert against like bird tackles and the great eagle day that's some good poke right there actually like that quite a bit and it looks like right now the you shop your great bow has switched its fire on to the great eagle which Ludwig of course being a savvy tournament player I'm sure we'll be able to do pretty effectively kind of pulling back and forth here on the far side we have a Liron Reavers creeping around the back Reavers definitely are gonna want to be shutting down the shop to great bow and/or the skeleton archers of yeah so now the help archers are gonna be opening up going after skeletons fear men of course are sealed or shielded and uh yeah it's not too many other targets to really choose from to be honest but it's still something might as well get some DPS where you can I think that the high of archers probably are going to want to take out the you chop you a pose and or the eyes of the desert though they don't have the best ap values they're still armored threats you need to get them down and you know volume of fire is a thing and can't eventually add up are we seeing the talons of torque later here oh we are so look at this Ludwig actually does have the talons of torque Aleta which abuse fire weakness that's pretty cool action with bird Tesla so Texas is attacking something they're also being shot by the talons here that can be a pretty big damage boost so now the hiles have sent the memo that they want to fight here and the frontline engagement is underway Texas is gonna be using a fiery convocation and flying taco is gonna be scooting forward trying to escape this but the skeletons are pretty crowded is he gonna be able to dodge it oh my god those skeletons got rekt so hard but unfortunately it does go through here and look about a big net going down from Texas but that pretty much instagib to those uh those skeletons beards I was pretty cool that's a free spell so look at this guy's we have cetera the imperishable is meted down by tech list and is also weakened to fire from the talons of torque Aleta so that means he's gonna be taking a ton of damage and honestly he could potentially lose cetera here or at least take a ton of damage on him that's very very brutal so now the counter punch here from the tomb Kings is gonna be coming in to hack our horseman around the flank getting ready to go in as is the tomb scorpion sepulchral stalkers are peeling relatively while shooting into the big mass units and it looks like actually the imperishable is able to get away but now this is where things get scary the tomb Kings have penetrated the front lines as skeleton warriors have gotten through because of the terror out going down on some of these troops here and they're all obviously very very beat up from fighting constructs tomb scorpion has gotten to the archer line and though that was a really cool gangster play from Ludwig I think that flying taco is going to be taking over this game very very quickly as the backline harass from Ludwig hasn't really done too much I mean you can see here yeah that's gonna get in cause some problems but it's very very late in delayed and the Heil force is really being backed up there's tombs for pians in their ranks or zoo shop T their skeletons the Eagles very low such with the imperishable is stabilized and though the bounce power is somewhat even I feel like I feel like it's gonna be tough here yeah I just don't see how the hiles can come back from this one I mean the both are is off all the archers are running for the hills maybe if he can scatter and get some good pics with bird checklist like finish off cetera that's certainly a play really nice response here from taco he does use mean arrows incantation protection granted it won't help them against tech lows who does to fire in magic damage so that will surpass that physical resist the talons of torque later have fallen back hails really pushed back to their their final stretch here now the chimp Kings who of course we're able to screen out the Reaver and calves for ass in the back yeah these guys are pretty much down for the count here and not down for the count but not doing too much chocolate grapples are still shooting too which is a big problem etc and not the best shape but an over tackle certainly is gonna have some work cut out for him so the high-low fire shirts have fallen back here you can see here the talons of torque Aleida are shooting and these archers are kind of shooting a guess but it looks like oh these are Shakti summons no they're actually shot D which is a big problem the great eagle is down for the count the Eagle Claw boltar is dead and it looks like bird checklist is going in and bird checklist is really good here actually yeah he's he's doing great man his nets and assassination attempts have been very very good but unfortunately you know he's not gonna be able to fight cetera probably I don't know maybe he could hard to say considering cetera is very very low but tacos really quite warmed up from his very close and contested series he had with random nicks here and uh he's really pushing through this game pretty effectively yeah the backline harass is it finally gonna get in Illyrian Reavers I mean they really need to shut down the gray pose but you can see here that taco is just sitting on them with spears it's really kind of odd make sure they can't do much I think getting the Reavers to kill these archers would be a good start so yeah crumbling these Spears and then going over on so these guys could be quite good and I'm not sure what spell that is that a fiery convocation it looks like it was for a second I think he was trying to get the archers so it looks like a fiery convocation is gonna be going down over here gonna be tearing through maybe some of these troops but I think it's a little bit off timed oh no he's gonna get some tacos guys but not too many just hits it like probably like ten skeleton models nothing terribly substantial stranger things have happened though you know if the archers for the house can stabilize back here somehow you know maybe just maybe the archers can come back online and birch echoes could take out some of the constructs and characters and the house could as this came out I think it's gonna be very tough but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility so anyways here checklist is uh getting blasted by some of the eyes of the desert and taking a bit of damage here those guys are really really good snipers here are these sepulcro stalkers still not engaged upon it looks like the Reavers are actually charging it to the skelter archers to try and tie them down but Burt reckless doing his best to just give alley where he can and this is a good play by Ludwig certainly taking out the tomb scorpion here it's gonna be good but it's uh yeah it's gonna be hard Nero's incantation going down a little bit of a miss casts here because it doesn't actually reduce any damage from Tecla since he does magic damage but it's all good things crumbling I think if Tecla sand eagle were able to do now etc like somehow some way maybe like with a lot of luck involved but I just don't see that happening shop you Capo's and the backers still shooting you have to remember they're still regular who shop D here and also eyes at the desert so there's still so much stopping power here guys so much stopping power it's a really really good game great series between these players bird checklist has a regrowth on him which is good it kind of pulls a bounce power back a little bit and this is actually not a bad play if the talons of torque later can be stabilized in the back and maybe the hiles can kind of start pulling apart the forces of the Tim Kings there's a chance to score pians crumbling down burr checklist with his AP or peck lists or bird list that doesn't make sense he's writing a bird he's not frivolous but tak Alyssa will be able to finish off the you shop D here but will the talons of tore clay to be saved I think he needs to maybe stay here I think it's just cycle charging which to refresh that charge bonus certainly isn't bad in the meantime what are the high of still have fighting couple Spearman around the battlefield some loose spearmen on the edge over here as well miss Archer crew is no certainly gonna be taken out by the car horse money there's only seven of them left which is pretty pretty crazy and here are these shop D stole eleven models those spearmen are down toast the tomb scorpion which does pull the bounced fire back towards the middle and the talons of torque later here I mean like I said stranger things have happened bird checklist is a really really powerful character the parrot wizard yes and he's very hard to kill but I just feel like there's so much like good tomb King stuff left like these are Shopp T they're just gonna bum-rush these archers what does Ludwig have left Ludwig has some calves here really sang a Jackman I'm just gonna see if they say GG Natanz of torque later getting some shots funny skeleton archers here such was in good shape that's still a hard fight where is where is bird checklist going I think where checklist needs to like I don't know man there's there's not too many good engagements for him here maybe just go for like low-hanging fruit I go after these skeleton warriors like away from the main tomb king's army looks like he's going to try and save those spearmen which I suppose gives him a little bit of a kind of backbone support balance of power still even this would be this would be a really really crazy comeback probably one the most insane comebacks I've seen in the past year if the High Elves were able to come back on this game just based on the current state of the game I don't mean I've seen worse balance of power comebacks but in terms of like game state I feel like this is a it's gonna be a tough one so talons of torque later shooting into these skills and archers getting some decent damage but sepulchral stalkers have so much ammo left like how his bird tackle it's gonna beat all this there are some spearmen coming back in which is nice bird tackle is deftly needs to capitalize on this and like fight wall the spearmen are fighting because this is gonna occupy the tomb King's here right so now bird lisore Peck list needs to get in there and start causing some problems gonna go after the archers certainly not bad and now the eyes of the desert and just blasting him in the face as he comes in if some Reavers coming in there's some ashati great pose here is he gonna go after cetera he is look at this what the madman and this is a good play we use in people encode of course Narrows won't save him but it does trigger the passive from the allure of magic and bird list is now attacking the ashati here spearmen are breaking off talons of torque later out of ammo at this point man bird list counts for so much on the balance of power I guess it's because he's really expensive this other potion of croy somehow Spearman still going there shaken for sure I mean fighting an uphill battle against a healthier unit the Japs cursed blade is activated now bird list is getting blasted by these two vocal stalkers and the you chop you a pose and bird checklist is uh it's gonna be sent back to uh wolf one said rethink this plan well played it seems like in Ludwig's armies a lot of the armies we've seen ludwik play today he doesn't bring a lot of anti armor I mean he had the bird but against Tim Kings I think you would need more than just a bull thrower granted I don't know maybe like a dragon or something or another Phoenix like a frost frost or flame Phoenix could have been helpful here he just didn't have quite enough ap yeah so we'll see alright guys and that is gonna be a victory here for the forces of taco but he's up to oh but it is best-of-five so there's certainly a chance that the Ludwig oh my god and grim Sokka dropped another one before he left one more for the road go elves I'm sorry grim you're probably sleeping now you'll find out tomorrow that your elves did not win but grim Sokka Thank You Man that last donation holy [ __ ] dude alright lets you sort of torgul and that's it so so far tacos up to oh here if taco does win he will win the series and he will qualify yeah bird list is hard to kill for sure tech Pecola I think Pecola is the best one what would you guys say bird list is so expensive though yeah he is I know he's pricey I think getting like a double goon-squad like bird list plus like another Phoenix would have been enough and like also the Ludwig didn't have that much to like take out the Jim King backline Similac says turn actually the phoenix only has magic damage if he has about fifty ones magic that's not necessarily true I don't think Malik's he has magic damage always but the Phoenix only gets its ward save if he has about 50% magic yeah it has to do with his ward save not his magic damage because the Phoenix itself always does magic damage yeah yes Pecha list is the best one guys how's it going Gabriel wrote on - I hope you're doing well I'm so hungry my stomachs growling right now I'm gonna feast like the heathen kings of old once this is over her wreck all reckless is good but that just becomes like totally different reckless when he's on a bird pack list when he isn't well but he has to be on the bird to be pekus otherwise it just doesn't make sense I think tackle us on horseback is very strong I mean he did really well was it's a magic damage you'll have to take a look Matt looks yeah I'll take a look at that later you could be correct I may be wrong but I always figured since he's on arcane Phoenix it would always be doing damage sir do you think they should buff white lines so there no I think white lines are fine as is their their niche but they're they're a good unit yeah another thing is against Tim Kings you can go with the plague of rust you can get like a Ark nation like that's high ups have all these Ark mages now - they can like summon manticores and like yeah are Kanaks our connects it sounds like a Pokemon definitely sounds like a Pokemon our Kennex it's like yeah reminds me of the days of old do you guys remember playing pokemon red who else here is part of this crew of playing pokemon in the 90s on a Game Boy pokémon red and blue and using the the duping hat the duping trick to do pure rare candies and just level up all your Pokemon - like level 99 I remember when you found out how to duke the rare candies and just like oh my god and like plugging in your Gameboy in the 90s - like your friend's Gameboy and like trading Pokemon and fighting each other that was like that was like mind-bending back then so Ludwig is gonna go with green skins ban and Koston Empire and now choco we'll have a chance to kick it from there man 90s 90s Gameboy I remember like sitting on the at my dad's work just playing like gameboy red and blue Pokemon yeah that was so much fun Pokemon total war yeah you guys remember the glitch oh man those are the days weren't they I remember like yeah I read for life I know I tooked the master ball yeah that that's smart too yeah every everyone in chat is like I did it too which one a nine here yeah the seven slot in the bag Ludwig is gonna activate his trap card he's certainly good so it's gonna be greenskins against lizard man we saw this earlier lizard man did lose actually but it was a very close game I know well the total war audience is much older compared to like like mainstream gaming like if you go on Twitch I feel like the average age is probably like 15 to 20 21 which you know nothing wrong with that but I feel like that the demographic who watches in place total wars a little bit older on average started with third gen sorry dude no strats brother no stress yeah man pokémon red and blue where the we're so good hey no worries no worries guys I'm an old I'm old and crusty I'm 31 three years old now 30 32 soon was there a glitch the same as the gold and silver I don't know yeah I only played red and blue I stopped after that so there was a speculation that she could get mu from that truck that was hidden by the cruise ship yeah yeah I remember like all the conspiracy theories yeah yeah pokemon red was so good I remember just like sitting under the covers at night like just playing that bye like some dim dim light you know someone once asked me of total war is a dad game yeah that's funny my parents didn't let me get the Gameboy because they saw kids playing them in restaurants and totally unengaged from their families Ryan that's probably a good thing yeah that's very true it's only gotten worse to man type and/or the noble house says I'm five but I love total war that's cool man certainly a rarity Sigmar forbids any generation above two dominus watching from the UK that's right oh man welcome to the stream a Pokemon was great you know what um hey there's no worries yeah you know what game I'm really excited to do on the channel and I'm gonna be doing it sometime in the next month is I'm gonna heroes of mine magic three lady turn it's actually really good at that game she like knows every unit like the back of her hand so we're gonna do a Heroes of Might magic stream where I'll do some one be ones verse lady turn or I'll do a me and lady turned verse a couple other folks that play it's very slow-paced but if anybody's looking for like a nostalgia stream dude it's coming Heroes of Might Magic 3 damn that game was so good I remember playing that on a frickin like the first like just some ancient computer on summer break oh my god Heroes of Might magic 3 guys it's coming I play inferno I played the worst faction Inferno is so bad but I'd love to just get the Haggard Devils and like teleport around and get the the gins and yeah Heroes of Might magic three guys were playing the vanilla fella actually plays it I was talking with him it's so good I still play that game she usually beats me yeah I've gotten a couple wins off her lady turn plays she plays the the faction with the frickin she plays rampart and then she plays the Swamp People dungeon she plays rampart and dungeon I play Inferno and I play Tower and tower is really hard in 1v1 cuz like it's super slow Malick's thank you for checking that good know the national polish eSport I know I know hey I played Mario I played Mario Cart and Super Mario on n64 yeah I went pretty hard in 64 now I don't want to play I like playing heroes like I don't want to play modded stuff or like I like to play the original one it just it's a little more of a nostalgia thing for me command & Conquer Red Alert I played I played all those games starcraft brood war warcraft one and two die blow all that so i'll so i'll still check out i'll check it out though for opposing yeah inferno is my favorite i know they're terrible but yeah dungeon or fortress I can't quite remember I towers I love Tower because I like using soul Amir and using Chain Lightning is just so dirty and then like having a little like imps and the Ark mages for the ranged attacks all right guys I'm gonna just go on like a nostalgia rant if I don't stop now so we're gonna focus on the game here we are guys grand finals of the eternal challenger league it is time it is Ludwig facing off against flying taco taco certainly has them on the ropes and let us go ahead and see what flying taco has so for taco he's got a massive air force which is interesting if there's no dock on the ground for the greenskins oh man this air force is gonna be nasty should be able to overwhelm two savage or carrier boys and I don't know as I might be able to chase him off but four of those guys front line for him is gonna be Cyrus Warriors and for the sunset flying taco does also have a slaw mage of life so we saw king of the Dead do this earlier but without the dread story so he's got not the dressing room without the live catcher so yeah we got a bail chat sorry oh my god Arkham so tech it's happening there's gonna be snake launchers launching snakes all over everyone's face it's got to be great Cyrus Warriors with shields we have some skin cohorts at the back and it is gonna be four units of the tarragon so yeah the healing on the jet soaring very very powerful now for the force of Ludwig he's on the brink of elimination here in the grand finals certainly can pull it back Ludwig has been playing very very well today front lines gonna be Goblin secondary line is gonna be orc boys he's got sewn trolls to deal with the big armor pretty similar to what we saw earlier actually savage are care boys and also hammered work I think has AG so it's old army solid army for sure yes I know you guys I could I could get ranting about heroes of mine magic for so long yeah haste is really good especially when you get like the mastery and you can give your whole army haste it's just like Oh add a kiddin I'm too fast swamp people are the fortress I think yeah I can't remember another way there's dungeon and then portraits yea portraits of swamp people dungeon is like the like troglodytes and the and the Minotaur's i it's easy to get them confused what's the name of the arcus otech I don't know it would be funny to call it Karen but I think we need something a little bit more original so anyways the lizards are advancing here these Sarris Warriors are pushing out and certainly will put a hurting on the screens confront lion granted ap Clooney's can hold their own and actually have some good fnatic balls now that Gork able to take out five Cyrus warriors with its initial blast getting some good old jolly DPS in there the green skins very much playing like a layered strategy and I did actually miss the rest the error so in total the greens can see how 3 archers which is more than enough to take out the Terra Dons or not take them out but fend them off Terra dawns here though could to be very annoying for sure and you can see here as egg is actually using spirit leeches on the Terra Don's which is interesting you know because now it's not gonna be here to help against the dread saurian which is certainly raid Boston with good micro flying taco shouldn't lose any of the Terra Don's here and you can see it takes a little bit of Archer power but he is gonna pull back rather quickly on the far side Spider Riders are marching out but also being shot by Terra Don Reiter's and to tear down riders probably could take out those Spider Riders if they want to but I don't think you will I think he's gonna take a more cautious approach so the dread saurian is going to be drifting away so the dread sardine is moving out this way because the archer line is like kind of concentrated here so if the dread soaring can find some fights like right on this uh this little like part of the battlefield here I think that's gonna be much better formers yeah man the slot healing the big dinos is so good like having a life sign oh so good and tasty so the dread starring is gonna be going after stone trolls a couple of them do get hunted on impact and as well as some of the schemes looks like they get caught in the mall here of the dread sorry yeah definitely the stone trolls with the dread sorry ins good play and here the arc of so types coming in has he launched his snakes yeah I don't think so oh there's the snakes the snakes are launched and now you can see the AP Clooney's are poisoned and being feasted on by the snakes of so tech unfortunately though for the forces here a flying taco frontline getting Crump's a little bit Cyrus worries got beaten down horribly by the stone trolls and those or boys and many of the frontline engagements are a little bit of a toss up here but a nice Arab pretzel here as well as shield if the old ones gonna make this line a little bit more sustainable and here you can see taco is winning this in nature so he is able to beat down the stone trolls actually taking out two models and putting them to a very very low H people so it looks like this side of the battlefield going much better for green skins obviously because as I has committed to that I had granted if the dread sorry doesn't dealt with that thing is gonna be a terror in the night especially with over casted regrowth that is gonna be really really I mean the dread starring getting brought up like 2000 + HP looks like an earth one going down now but yeah good DPS from Ludwig though he's getting the you know a nice rock drop attempts right there but he does miss nice Juke by Ludwig I don't know if that was intentional or skirmish mode but either way it's a very very good play Manticore someone being used up in this guy so flying taco does have a beast caster and the manticore summit is going after a Zac which house I will survive that but that's some pretty good damage for sure and I think as I probably should just run from that like fighting a summon unit is not worth your time and this is why you bring the tear downs I think it's been revealed is that if you can break the trolls which happens a lot you then have the speed to actually chase those guys off the battlefield which is one of the things that we saw it really hurt the lizard man in King's game there was nothing to chase off the trolls when he broke them despite the fact that he broke them many many times so here the slime age of life and Mortal Kombat II Carol Dredd saurian is cold-blooded in the words of Rick James here and now there's still a ton with arc of so tech once again dropping the deadly snakes the goblins are being feasted on by the snakes with so tech here which is a pretty hilarious sanguine that's going yeah the trolls are being chased out pretty well tear down riders just kind of flying overhead it's a constant like annoying threat right like all these Herod on riders can go after artillery pieces that can disrupt archers and as a matter of fact those little like poison darts will eventually add up against a egg which is hilarious and it's taking a lot of pressure off the dread soaring and I suppose with a egg being so busy but the greenskin aren't your line is still shooting rusty errors and all these boys getting their damage in there and now the dread serine is going in balls deep it has to push in if these archers are allowed to keep shooting it that's gonna be a game losing situation for sure soin trolls over here have won their fight a little bit of a mistake here by Ludwig it looks like he chased the cohort of so tech like close to the edge of the battlefield so those don't rolls are gonna be out of the fight for quite some time well the dread serine goes ham had they pulled back sooner could have been a very very different thing for sure so here the feral dread saurian is cold-blooded because uh little dave chappelle skit from the Chappelle show god that show was so funny Madrid sorry here taking out any rusty errors and the flying goon squad is still active I would imagine they're gonna start focusing down on the savage or carrier boys and here we have some stone trolls coming in a lot of greens get infantry it's kind of looking like a bit of a reflection of the previous game balance of power is actually not bad here that's pretty even more or less as I coming in could goon out this slum the salon is actually shaken man if he broke this long that would be brutal because then the healing for the Jets or anyone here surprising haven't seen a regrowth oh nice attempt here not attempt to a success Ludwick coming in with a steel chair on that skate presa beasts and now switching on over the salon the air force of flying taco trying its best but the spirit leech and the archer line really allowed to shoot for a little bit too long and they have been able to actually bring down the dread saurian just about cold-blooded is actually keeping this thing fighting without cold blood this thing would actually break right now which would be huge now cut the greenskins but there still is an arc of so tech here guys don't underestimate the snake launcher you can see the snakes have been launched here and are feasting on some of the goblins will the dread soaring stabilized it is actually broken now is flying taco get to be able to keep this end alive and you here you can see that up in the sky here zach is actually very low 500 HP any number of these flying units could probably troll a zag and I think this is the right play by Ludwig he actually jumps in here and goes after the salon mage just knowing that he might lose a Zach just go just go deep man just go to you and it looks like that's gonna be a win for the green skin so Ludwig prevents the sweep and is on the board and now guys we have a contested series on our hands more games to come yes my friends the snakes are here and yeah they weren't able to carry it I think the cohort of so Tex the only thing fighting somewhere on the edge of the map game looks like a couple of them left and tacos gonna spare us and withdraw yes alright guys well played the snakes we're not able to cut it well played the taco I think it was a solid game but the mighty Ludwig was able to play extremely well there get those picks get those archers on line Ludwig with an outstanding performance and now we move on to the next match so for this one let us do I'm not gonna do swamps of terror cuz that is cruel to the players I think it's time for a good old tower of poet showdown plonk taco says didn't expect army losses yeah with the dread serene and salon broken though for sure Abraham the work of so tech I like that goddamn that's good yeah the green skins are like get these mother effing snakes uh-huh his mother effing battlefield I can't say that without getting my streams you monetize so alright which here is my magic game should I buy I played it a long time ago I honestly did Jake just go to I think it's called GOG calm Gog and just get Heroes of Might and Magic 3 it's the best dude get that and then the arming of the two DLCs for that like the actual DLCs that's the best nothing beats a yeah homme 3 has a huge following a huge Polish and Russian community huge it's very popular in Eastern Europe yeah my wife is Eastern European she had played a ton of pom three yeah get home 3 dude it's the classic it's so fun alright good luck have fun so the players know we're good and now it's time to hang in hang it out again just chatting guys yea tarragon's we're cool I actually like that Samuel the snake launcher yeah that's good Samuel Jackson reference see how we sell it hey it was great it's going really good it's been an incredibly fun stream today we've had a great people hanging out just having a good time together shooting [ __ ] talking some nostalgia you know how it is yeah YouTube's pretty strict about that kind of stuff Warhawk yeah it is it wouldn't like it wouldn't ruin my but like when I put the stream up after the fact if I if it got to monetize after the fact what happens is YouTube like basically cuts the ads on it they limit the ads you can put which isn't a big deal I don't care that much about that to be honest on streams cuz like people are so generous around streams more the issue is that when a video is restricted or is D monetized YouTube doesn't share it with as many people so your channel doesn't get out there as much if it has that issue yeah just heroes my magic 3 complete yeah it's like 10 bucks dude do it do it turn I never played battle realms no I didn't play any of those games no they were more obscure I knew people who played them but I did not play those No Michael says I like heroes 5 more but I'm not an old man Ben Harrison thank you for the tenner he says nice great Channel cheers Cheers do you Ben Ben it's a proud name and thank you so much Ludwick fights back lewd way coming back from the brink of defeat now we have a very good series on our hands here yeah feral dinosaurs usually dump the best leadership but chuckles like what have we played already yeah they're they're trying to remember the matchups they played loving the ever chosen turn absolutely beautiful gameplay glad to hear you advertise was really fun yeah I bet Harrison I don't know why it says message retracted yeah Ben Harrison's donated $10 I can see it on the back end it says nice great channel Cheers that's the retracted like why is it retracted that's weird maybe you two thought it was like something bad or a bot or something I don't know Ben Harrison thank you yeah so Ludwig and taco are working out their picks and bans at his best of five oh I forgot to tell him that a best-of-five it's it's single single band usually it's a single band I forgot to say because otherwise if you have double bands at a best-of-five and it goes all the way like you run out of factions it just becomes like ridiculous so you're supposed to generally do single band best-of-five so like you would put you a pic Empire and ban like dwarves and then you know etc etc cool so I fixed that it changes mind about the general means they deleted their comment huh interesting interesting stuff so it looks like flying tacos gonna go coast a knees banning dwarves that's smart that's really good you also have to factor in what your opponents already played because they can't play the same faction twice so um I'm thinking of hosting another tournament tomorrow I know we talked about it earlier guys but there's gonna be another one tomorrow that uh has I think either tomorrow or sometime in the week we'll do a faction war style so players can only play one faction the whole way through but as many players can register and they each pick their like champion faction that they want to play war hawk a glad to hear we rock you're getting all the content man the twerps have been banned a lot today yeah well dwarves just stopped vampire coast it's like yeah they just get rekt it's worse you're actually one of the best races against undead works like our such high leadership and like durable that they can really weather the storm like dwarves are really hard counter against tomb kings they're really hard counter against coast and they it's it's it advantageous against counts as well like if you're looking to beat down on dead just like become really good at dwarfs typically you'll be banned out unfortunately but eventually you'll get it yeah long beards another doors they're they're awesome men the dwarves but man yes I've had the hl8 Leifer head-to-head campaign it's like that's one of my favorite things is I really like campaign but I get bored of it because of the AI but playing against another players like really fun it's like it's such a good format to shoot the [ __ ] to and I I'm one of those people who likes to kind of play under pressure so I really like using a two minute turn time right like it adds another layer of intensity to the campaign yeah so Ludwick is thinking about his factions be spanked beast man could be good here I think Ludwick has already played Empire so you can't pick them so that makes it a really really good pick from chaco yeah are they're just a bunch of angry dwarves yelling in chat wrong dose yeah fight the dog we banned the table we go into the book it's like you fight him you're it's a lose-lose situation this is best-of-five yeah it's currently 2-1 tacos up lewd way go with the most recent win multiplayer room campaign yeah it's I still enjoy campaign but like the thing is is like if you just play conservative and safe and don't take too many risks and like you can always like yeah campaign becomes pretty straightforward yeah I don't know so in my head head campaigns I do use the 2 minute turn timer because that's for you guys because if imagine if I was playing a head-to-head campaign with someone and we have a 5 minute or no turn timer do you know some of those turns are gonna be like 15 minutes long we will never have a good viewing experience for you guys so I know some people don't like playing with the 2 minute turn timers or it might be a little bit more stressful but like if you like people take so long in their turns in campaign yeah you got to have a turn timer if you're if you're doing a head-to-head otherwise you're just stupid it just becomes like so boring yeah cuz it's already slow enough right with the battles and no we're not on the live build right now we're on the beta because the beta doesn't have the weapon damage bug which hopefully will be going live soon it's kind of annoying yeah where's my book everybody's looking for the book of grudges sure there's a bunch of bunch of them out there it's gonna be dark elves first coast interesting it's a mashup that has been historically I think slightly coast favored but we actually saw in the faction where ice powered total war almost beaten ticinese coast with Dark Elves and uh he had a really good build I mean he just let his Lord died an accident but aside from that like it was it was good know as each in representative I'm saying that like if you don't have a turn timer then it turns into 50 minutes turns yeah Kevin Robinson for keeping it going while I cook during the meal and still being here after the dinner walk I got you man got your back Kevin thank you dude do you plan on doing a four-player PPP melts at their campaign it's not possible but if it was hell yes I really think two-minute turn timer is good like yeah your place are gonna be suboptimal but it keeps things going it's just it keeps you the campaign from stagnating and drawing out I'd be down some de Mol spaghetti once my hands fixed I can do more things it's like right now I'm limited but someday once I go through all the recovery hit me up dude a one-minute turn timer you can't do that but one minute turn timer is ridiculous that's just too much yeah you like two or three minutes is the sweet spot so Marcus there's nothing wrong with a slow building up campaign if you're just like playing if you're just like playing with your pals or whatever but for me when I'm doing a head-to-head campaign like in its PvP based and in like we have you know otherwise like here's the thing I'm doing a head-to-head campaign I'm streaming you guys are watching my perspective if it's my perspective and I have to sit there for 15 to 20 minutes doing nothing well somebody takes our turn and you guys are all watching it's like it's not very fun keeping it like quicker means it cycles between players turns and it's like more action yeah there's nothing wrong with long turns there's nothing wrong with it I'm just saying from a view in perspective I think the short turn timers are much better yeah it's like speed chess right it's like have you guys ever watched competitive chess like blitz and chess like they have like timers right like where the players have time limbs I love watching that it's like the players are under more duress to like have uh if he was talking about wrestling me like like physically wrestling me in real life really that's seems like it's a random thing for him to talk about it that's really funny though okay I'm done if you want see [ __ ] I got some jiu-jitsu and wrestling experience let's do it man wrestle me what this part yeah the Spartacus earth AK head-to-head is one of the best of all time I I do I do have several years of boxing experience - I've only sparred probably five or six times though a lot of it was just like bag work and rope and stuff but I have done some sparring but I stopped when I one night after I sparred someone I got my ass kicked and came home and was like looking at the lights and they were like super bright I'm like I probably shouldn't do this anymore you know oh my god that was that was quite a humbling thing because like my whole life growing up I was always very athletic and you know relatively strong right and then what ended up happening is you know I started doing boxing and you know I was boxing against it's like 140 pound guy I was probably 175 and pretty muscular at the time but my cardio wasn't great so I came in I was sparring with this 145 pound - it was do - as a boxer like oh this is gonna be fine I'm so much bigger and you know more imposing than him and this guy [ __ ] just ran me ragged I was missing I was exhausted and then he just beat on me for the entire sparring session I was like oh man that is a humbling experience dude it just goes to show experience experiencing cardio man that's where it's at yeah but eventually you know I got better cardio and was able to do well but yeah man people who are trained it's serious yeah boxing is cool but like as a long-term like hobby and craft it's like it's just not the concussions you get is just it's rough jiu-jitsu is different I loved you Jitsu because you can go pretty hard and not like suffered serious damage aside from maybe like you know tweaking things here and there yeah I did boxing for a long time yeah but it's like man people who like trained boxing and like their gym and hit the bag it's not that it's you're not gonna get any valuable experience compared to sparring it's like sparring teaches you everything in Jeep ride in Turin mud wrestling what what this is getting absurd yeah oh it's okay guys whatever you know I slip up every now and then but I just say it was truly an emphasis yeah yeah cardio beats chaos new cardio is so important I actually have to have good cardio though I was a collegiate track athlete like I ran track and I ran the 400 meter dash the 200 100 I could run a pretty good mile - yeah the judo you just lose your knees or your shoulders yeah well I wasn't fighting UFC fighter was just like a amateur boxer at a local gym yeah it's somebody in chasis Cronus as they taught us to Jitsu in the Canadian military we did Taekwondo free stretching it was pretzel hell I tell you oh my god yeah it's funny because in other you know normally like I'm kind of like oh they need to pick the armies it's taking so long but since we're having these ridiculous conversations today like I straight-up don't care I like it's fine yeah I'm pretty out of shape right now though like I'm really out of shape yeah cardio is so important dude like that's the thing when I first went into my jujitsu classes like since I had a little bit of martial arts and wrestling experience I was able to really do well against people like even as a white belt I was able to really you know like use my kind of wrestling like experience I had kind of garnered two contests you know stuff with you know people who were you know a little bit more experienced than me but cardio was like the biggest thing once you get cardio going and just get like basic survival and like jiu-jitsu and grappling like man you can go hard via cardio was like the most important thing did because grappling is so freakin tiring oh my god grappling is so tiring like there's few physical activity activities where like when you first are out of shape and start grappling jiu-jitsu or wrestling and you like go in dude it is so freaking exhausting like wrestling and grappling and just like that kind of stuff I don't know like I play the high school football is like has nothing on that track and field's like no cuz it exhausts you in ways that you just aren't used to experiencing yeah absolutely have we seen any rats today sir on skate yeah we saw a really cool rat game earlier we saw double rattling gunner work grounder from against vampire counts he was a cool build I do sleep with a wrist brace yeah quitter beat so tech we got to travel to Texas and face the Lord master of so tech yeah well you know that's that's the scariest thing like the scariest MMA fighters are guys with wrestling bases like if you look at these division 1 wrestlers like who learn jujitsu and like learn how to take downs and like learn how to strike they're the most terrifying like freakin huh beep nurmagomedov I think it's how you say his last name I always mangle it but hip habib is so terrifying that guy he's just like he just like smothers you on the ground doesn't let you breathe and just like he just can out wrestle you so hard that you just can't get up it's like that's a terrifying thing you know yeah for sure running with a mullet has a point yeah it looks pretty sweet when I first got the mullet haircut guys I was running and there was like some old man who looked like probably in his 60s 70s and he like kin looked at my mullet waving as I ran by and I just like smiled I mean he like nodded at me I was like hell yeah that's it that's a--that's a moment right there turn do you try to use tournament rules in head-to-head ah I probably will do that in the future yeah to permanently corner camping stuff like that yeah yeah grappling is like a whole nother thing man you know when I get a when I get my hands fixed and I eventually am able to get back to jujitsu all our Chi I plan on competing in some competitions was just you know just like low level competitions just for fun and I'll film some of them and put them up in the channel hundred pounds and some wrestling experience you have to do for sure oh my god I don't divorce would be the scariest wrestlers yeah no I agree sir honest guy I agree with that statement a hundred percent all right guys let's talk Warhammer enough enough mud wrestling all right so for the forces here uh all right we'll get this donation first evenly someone an indie Chad brought it up wrestling and Indy was saying he has no chance against you unless you're Haggard risk gives out so you try to survive until it did cardio beats chaos that's really funny oh man yeah good old Indy pregnant I can imagine that's really funny yeah I don't know man I mean we could do it for charity or something who knows all right guys so for the forces here flying taco he's got an Steven Lee thank you so much yeah he's got pole arms in the front he's got a gunnery but actually not gonna lie it's an interesting choice here for the flying taco gunnery white is pretty good with knocked Willis and also against vampire counts or I mean excuse me Dark Elves he's pretty useful against flying characters so if there's like a mirage the Malekith hydra he's good single target steady DPS with you know 180 range which certainly isn't bad secondary line here it's gonna be gunnery mom's is gonna be big old counting opto some mortar to deal with shades and I would imagine there's like some scary dogs or other things like that it's hard to say good wrist oh my god let's go into the book ya know I've definitely been punished in jujitsu quite badly I've gotten my fair fair shakes of people but look I'm not gonna lie and say I'm like insanely good at it I'll put up a video someday when the time comes you guys can see me get rekt it'll be fun alright so Dark Riders here for the forces of the Dark Elves and let's look at army so my usual build against the Dark Elves arrogance coast is actually triple bolt or it's very very cost-effective um he's actually going to be going with a dark shark build so it looks like try dark shard in front line of horse hairs mixed with some witch Hills cold the Knights on the flanks which helps and in the back we have a supreme sorceress of fireball very interesting the problem with dark charges naturalist and mortars can kill them very effectively so yeah we'll have to see how this goes yes I do sleep with a wrist brace at night yeah I do hmm watch out for the shrubbery yes I know there's a lot of shrubbery here and the battle is underway good luck have fun being dropped by both players and now both doors gonna be opening up going after the deck end mom's just with its auto fire but I would imagine the vaulter is gonna scoot forward and go after the mortars a flying taco does have double mortar this is very much like their traditional old-school style of coast against Dark Elves the other style you see is kind of anticipate just has a frontline deck hand mounts and bombers and like a million hand gunners that obviously is quite strong as well usually against vampire organs Dark Elves I like I like to have a cannon or two just to kind of shoot down their characters and snipe their Boulter's and things like that but yeah yeah we will see is there a unique API you can only have twenty units that's pretty normal so countin oculus is going to be moving forward with this pegleg the ball thrower is actually in spray fire mode which you don't see terribly often but it's not bad at clearing out chaff like if you have three bolt or shooting it like a deck and Rob you can actually take it out very very quickly which certainly isn't bad so here come the boarders now going to be opening up on the Dark Elves really good to be pushing the envelope for Ludwig here one of his keys to success is really gonna be getting his Dark Riders and mobile units to hammer into the gumline pieces if he can try and get him to the borders probably I mean it takes a while actually for Dark Riders to kill handgun mobs that's why it's not always super effective but if he's able to shut down the borders that would be his best play the mortars are the counter against dark shards dark shards will out trade the gun units you guys are starting to see a formula here so if I were balls going downtown this pretty big actually going after the gunnery wide of all choices interesting I actually thought he would use the fireball to try and snipe the mortar teams because the mortars of course every fire ball you do often times does kill a single one of the mortars so that can be quite strong indeed so here we do have a flight coming in the dark riders but really nice ambush this is why more angles are such a good defensive unit you use them they appear invisible obviously so you can kind of I use them to creep up on the skirmish cab as they come in and pressure your gun line pieces mortar is still raining in not going after the dark shards quite yet I'm surprised they're actually going after the Corsairs and here you can see these cold the Knights are being pressured here but the gunner Imams so far no great openings here for the drew key and now another fireball coming in really nice fireball and he's also using the bolt or to snipe this gunner away I'm very it's an interesting choice so the gunner white isn't gonna be like super punishing I guess he's playing more like the long game right so now the Corsairs have come in but the mortars and bomber fire is gonna be so punishing the dark health frontline is just gonna get rekt most likely although a really nice burning head here does actually open up the backline here so you can see Ludwig is able to get a burning head it roasts a couple units of zombies even goes into the second one and now you can see that the glorious dread spheres are going to be making their way into the gun line yeah this is this again pretty crazy so this is where the Dark Elves really need to bother the bread here of this force the dark shards really need to kind of pour it on but oh this is actually little bit scary here we got scurvy dogs coming up and under and it does not look like the Dark Elves have any support here to protect these archers oh that's not sure they actually somewhat elves so the witch elves can potentially peel off those scurvy dogs or keep them in check the dark shards really performing well going after the zombie pirate gunnery my bombers wearing them down dread spears repress again honestly Ludwig looks like he's doing okay here but oh no a big opening in the back but a huge mistake here by the flying taco no he notices it okay good I was like is he gonna forget these scurvy dogs he's not so this is free real estate this said boltar is 100% gonna be gone offline Ludwig pretty much has to concede it's done for granted it's used about 70% of its ammo so it's not like it's a terrible situation so another fireball coming in fireball good to be going into the gunnery bite and what Booma the gunnery white getting pops right and it's good old decrepit rotting face which elves are now pushing in as well and the supreme sorceress of fire is in ok shape and here in the back what do those Dark Riders come from did they just like teleport back here some Dark Riders caught those scurvy dogs where were they I don't even see them I guess I haven't eaten in a while so I'm getting a little bit of delusional here as this game does progressed so this is pretty scary here for the forces of the vampire Coast all these dark charts and various missile pieces inside guys know where he's done so here the dark charged shoot again knock Tillis is down to about 3500 HP it does kind of normalize the balance power a little bit but currently it's looking like vampire coast is probably in a decent shape granted all the fourth quarter Dark Riders can be huge both of the mortar teams are unprotected oh no it looks like taco over chased here with the pull arms and now there is an opening to actually get in and take out those mortars and you can see with that happening probably gonna pull the bounced fire back I would imagine so here we have some more scurvy dogs hunting down the dark shards where they can more angles also collapsing here on these scurvy dogs getting in there and yes this is indeed live let's say premiere or something that's weird anyways the mortar teams are offline or the mortar crews are offline which is gonna be a huge boon especially if he can actually finish them off and it looks like he's actually going for the kill on count knocked also some dread spears I do think getting the Dark Riders to finish off the mortar team first would be vastly more substantial it's really make sure that any dark charts and these various other units can really uh you know prosper and do well for themselves so balanced parts were really even guys I mean this game could certainly go either way which helps still grinding it out cold one is able to get in and cold the Knights are inside large specialists so the cult of knights fighting against the Mongols here more goals are crumbling down negative 31 egative 26 and yeah looks like those marbles are gonna be having a pretty rough time begins those anti large Spears now the borders are compromised as well this one is still going for some reason the gunnery white here is probably indeed of a couple more fireballs to really finish them off looks like a couple colder nights are trying to get him I'd be able to drag him down probably pulling the cold the Knights over here to help out in this fight would be a little bit more and a nice invocation going down fireball going after the gunnery white and it looks like it does hit him he's weak binding currently his leadership is to five looks like he's not quite to the point of breaking this is a little bit rough though all the dark shards being chased off with the scurvy dogs that are doing the chasing here are actually crumbling themselves so they probably not gonna have enough durability to really finish it and it looks like Ludwig might be able to pull this one back and go to game 5 it's very close knock tool-assisted raid boss of course he's somewhat healthy and also does have more on goal support here and also some handgun mobs really peppering in yeah look at the handguns peeling they're very very solid stuff gunnery white is quite low and the supreme sorceress is gonna be jumping in to try and take out that gunnery white taco looks like he might be on his way back into this game from a point that was looking a little bit tough for him and also getting the dark shards back is quite big but only if the mortars are offline if the mortars are still functional here they're gonna be quite scary yeah you can see a cycle charge coming in this guy's crumbling negative one leadership but that's not gonna be enough he definitely got a cycle charge him a little bit more to finish off that gun are you white and here she comes and is it gonna get him 340 it looks like he does not take the hit gunner whites don't have bad combat stats certainly not slouches dark charts coming back is by far the biggest thing for through our kills here but the other still more goes here but the witch hunts can actually rampage the mourn goals and then they get focused down by the dark shards that could actually be really really strong yeah but unfortunately he should have taken out the mortar earlier that was a pretty big miss play gunnery white still isn't breaking he does have you know 38 million defense against you know not the best melee attack fireball appears to be going after the hard-knock life he does hit him right in his hide here dark shards are forced off by rocks moon dial summon here from countin oculus the Dark Riders do get into the handgun mob but I think it's too little too late the supreme sorcerer is able to finish the gunnery white but yeah the mortars being online is tough in oculus of course surviving the raft and that is going to be a victory for the flying taco who is gonna be our next qualifier for the eternal challenge early grand finals congratulations to the flying taco able to have joined the ranks of Falcon anticipate a lack slow and sooth there and of course we've seen flying taco have very good game skin sooth well played too ludwig though is a good game couple little things losing things here and there but i did like his build I'm more of a fan of the dart the shades because the mortars can't get him quite as easily but man that was a I was really really close game very very close game indeed and now my friends we shall update the scoreboard well-played the Ludwig what an absolute beast but flying taco has emerged victorious today and will be added to the player list so now this is time writing his name into the grand finals flying taco oh that's an image we gotta do text here so it's gonna be texts fine taco supplying taco is qualified congratulations the mgg today we had sixty challengers sixty players playing for a spot in the grand finals and flying taco has emerged as the number one contender here and he did not play easy competition today he certainly had to face some very very good opponents I know part of me was like I want to see another game but you know it is what it is very good games indeed so that is gonna be it for today these are the qualifiers talaxian soothsayer week one coming out hard establishing that early dominance anticipation no surprises with either of those two names and now flying taco is our fourth qualifier we'll be back with more qualifiers soon so guys make sure you all go get some food stay hydrated stay safe in these dire times I want to thank you all so much for joining thank you for the mods for sticking around and it was a long stream almost four hours so you guys really putting a part in a large portion of your day to hang out and help out and chat and all that some mods appreciate you guys as always and then lastly man oh my god the the balls-deep donations today we got it you gotta round this one back real quick so we've from Steven Lee Kevin Robinson Ben Harrison grim sokham and grim sokka's donated like 400 bucks today just absolute lunacy so gram if you're watching this back thank you so much I know I already thanked you a million times on stream but dude I can't thank you enough and lady turn and I will make sure to send you something nice we'll make you some custom art Ciara thank you so much with 1122 Samuel Christensen Andrew pew nick de Boer flying potato cream soaked again from soca Sharif thank you so much tree for the 50 he says hashtag free tic-tac-toe which we will tic-tac-toe will be freed for a head dead campaign soon Jonathan Kelly Quan Orosco down below we above as big blast Pedro hi guy and paulius getting in there having some fun thank you guys so much for your support and last but not least of course we do have a new member here on the channel tune actually let's go and find those hello guys it's been a great stream we have Grimm Sokka has a new member on top of the donations and Zach rankle thank you guys so much now surah I got a rest man my hands are really 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Channel: Turin
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Keywords: The warden and the paunch, The warden & the paunch, total war warhammer 2, total war, total war warhammer, warhammer fantasy, grom the paunch, eltharion the grim, war lions, arcane phoenix, grom goblin, turin, total war warhammer multiplayer, total war warhammer campaign, guide, total war guide, imrik, imrik warhammer, total war warhammer dragons, dragons, goblins, high elves, elves, Rogue idol, greenskins rogue idol
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Length: 228min 26sec (13706 seconds)
Published: Sat Jun 27 2020
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