Ben: Hey, what's up, hello everyone and welcome to another episode of simply podlogical a simply nailogical podcast Cristine: Holo
Ben: How you doin' Cristine?
Cristine: I'm great. How are you? Ben: You got a cat in your lap there?
Cristine: Got a cat in my lap. I'm living in the great indoors So excuse Menchies little bell there Ben: Okay, you need to speak into the microphone, not into the cat Considering everything going on in the world right now We thought it would be a fun distraction to have a podcast where we just fantasized about dream vacations and selfishly This is probably for me more than Cristine as some of you have may have watched the simply nailogical Channel over the years would know that I'm someone who Is always asking that we go on a vacation it's really because we work very hard between our multiple jobs that I think it's important sometimes to give yourself a break and To me a break would be you know going on a trip somewhere and relaxing Cristine: Yeah, you know I always thought that staying at home was like a vacation to me But now I'm reconsidering that Ben: After the last few days yeah?
Cristine: It's been a week now.
Ben:Has it been a week? Yeah
Cristine: Of basically staying home Yeah, which I know I've joked about in the past like all I do is stay home I never leave the house. But this what this has taught me this like staying at home thing is That I see people regularly that I don't realize like have an important impact on my life in some way like even though it's small like Ben and I the only people we've really seen in the last week is each other. Ben: Yeah are we starting to drive each other a little nuts? A little bit right?
Cristine: That's it. That's it I'm used to seeing co-workers or people at the gym
Ben: Unless you're the most extreme Introvert. Yeah, you probably don't realize that Just seeing other people and having some level of social interaction is probably important to you Cristine: I'm an introvert too, but even as an introvert whether that I'm talking about like my My life ten years ago or now. You still see people like, you might still be a student You still go to school or you might work a job and usually at your job, you're gonna see some people Ben: It's like you can't win either way, right? You see people get anxious don't see any people for days Cristine: I mean, I'm not one to step into big crowds anyways So I'm totally fine with not, you know, participating in crowds of fifty people or more But just the day-to-day seeing people at work like talking to co-workers, the tea Club at work, I miss it
Ben: I mean not to make this about your anxiety, but the first time I realized You were an introverted person and were anxious about being around lots of people was the first trip we took together when we went to New York, and I thought I was impressing you by Going to New York and going to some fancy restaurants and we did some of those touristy things you would do in, New York Cristine: Yeah, I remember that. I remember having to put on a face. So I guess this is a vacation story, that we can talk about
Ben: Yeah there you go, why not
Cristine: So I've shown a picture before of us in New York This is maybe a year into us first dating. So seven years ago.
Ben: We haven't even been dating that long.
Cristine: Was it? I don't know Can't remember Yeah, but I remember you like saying you wanted to take me to New York It would be a big trip. It would be so much fun And I was I felt like I had to hide that I wasn't that excited Ben:It's funny I thought I was really impressing you and meanwhile like I could tell while we were there like just waiting in the subway to get on a train or like Briefly going to Times Square just to say we've been to Times Square I could tell you were like super uncomfortable being in those places Cristine: Yeah, I don't know what it is, but large crowds Especially like tourist attractions where there's just so many people just standing there It's right around you and I know they're not paying attention to me. Like that's not what it is I understand that but I just I just makes me anxious and I'd rather be in smaller groups Ben: All right, so maybe we should just start then by establishing the fact before we get to what are those dream vacations Acknowledging the fact that you travelled very little in your life You haven't been many places
Cristine: Cristine doesn't like vacations
Ben: Cristine's led a sheltered Small life.
Cristine: I mean it's not sheltered really It's I mean, it's my choice mostly that I haven't gone on a big vacations. I've Generally just declined the offers when they've come to me Ben: Okay
Cristine: The offers Ben: Vidcon? Cristine: So I've never been across an ocean
Ben: That's crazy to me
Cristine: But I've been to the Caribbean islands so wait does that count Ben: You've never been to Europe let's say
Cristine: I've never been to Europe UK Australia. I've never been to Hawaii so I guess where have I been?
Ben: You've never been on a flight longer than like four or five hours
Cristine: Five hours, going to California would be the longest flight.
Ben: Yeah, so where have you been? Cristine: Yeah, because it's a shorter list where I have been than where I haven't which is the rest of the world Ben: I think that's true for most people but especially for you Cristine: For me So I haven't even been that many places in Canada Only last year for the first time we went to the west coast we went to Banff, Alberta That's the only time I've been there I have never been to the east coast in the Maritimes never Ben: Or BC
Cristine: Never been to BC the only other place near me like I've been to parts of Quebec been to like Mont Tremblant and Morille I Grew up in Toronto. Does that count? That's not Ottawa where I am now
Ben: I think a lot of Canadians probably haven't seen a ton of Canada though Just because when you think of going on a vacation you typically think outside of the country
Cristine: You'd rather pick something else, something generally warmer Ben: I'm not sure if that's smart though. Like I haven't been to the east coast either and I'd love to make it out there at some point Cristine: I hear they have red sand there Thats what my boss told me, she's like "you should go. It's red. It's really pretty."
Ben: Okay. So where have you been outside of Canada? Cristine: So Florida, we used to go as a family like every year that was our vacation during March break because my grandmother one of them Lives down there. Oh and to answer everyone's question I know a lot of people were concerned last week when I mentioned that my grandmother was still in Florida and we were worried about getting her back here because she does she's a Canadian citizen so she comes back here and Thank you everyone for your concern. She did come home just two days ago My dad was able to get her on like a quicker flight earlier than she originally booked it for and she got home safely and she will be in self-isolation for 14 days Ben: That's right. Locked her in the apartment Cristine: So my dad went over and got her a bunch of groceries and stuff so she can just make do sorry grandma You're not going to aquafit. Like, you know, you're gonna stay at home. She's well She's 90 years old. Yeah, so I was kind of like freaking out she better get home I hope they don't close the border on her but she's a Canadian citizen. So even though we've all heard like the borders are closing there They were still I mean at this time anyways, letting Canadians come home Ben: Well, yeah, it may become more difficult for Canadians to get back to Canada but I don't think any country will really take the step of If you're a Canadian citizen, you're gonna be allowed back into Canada It's just a question of can you logistical figure out a way or if you are Sick or have any symptoms? You're not getting on a flight either right?
Cristine: Right so she was healthy Yeah, so she was able to get back. So thank you guys Honestly, I know a lot of people were worried on my behalf for her behalf.
Ben: That's very sweet Cristine: Yeah Ben: And if things hadn't gone the way they've gone the past few weeks we would have been in Florida a few days from now Visiting her and Rob and Corrine from ThreadBanger
Cristine: Yeah
Ben: Yeah Cristine: So that vacation was canceled So I've been to Florida a lot
Ben: So you used to go there as like a kid as well, right?
Cristine: Yeah
Ben: Okay Cristine: Yeah, my grandmother's always lived there as long as I can remember.
Ben: She lived there for the winters. She's a snowbird right? I think a lot of Canadians will know what that means But a lot of older Canadian people who can afford to
Cristine: They're like fuck winter Ben: Yeah, they basically move to Florida for like four or five months of the year.
Cristine: Just during winter But they usually remain Canadian citizens because they they just want the benefits of being Canadian, for other reasons.
Ben: Well yeah They're not getting American citizenship, that would be hard to do Cristine: But they just go live in In the south for a few months
Ben: Just pay for your health insurance for a few months And yeah
Cristine: Yeah, that was another reason. I think why it was important for her to come back here just if anything were to happen I'm sure she'd rather be in Canada. Yeah. Anyways, grandma is good. Okay, where else have I been? I've been to the Dominican Republic Ben: Okay
Cristine: It was actually a big vacation with my family. My grandmother took all of us. I think it was my dad's 50th Birthday, I can't remember
Ben: So how long ago? You were a teenager? Cristine: Yeah in university. So I think that makes sense something like that. I've been on a cruise once Probably 10 years ago something like that. It went to some of the Caribbean islands. So Dominica st. Thomas St. Kitts a few of those
Ben: It's one of those deals were like you, de-board and briefly Cristine: Yeah, like a seven-day cruise
Ben: You sleep on the boat though right? Cristine: Yeah, and I really I'm never going on a cruise and not just because of the coronavirus But I after that I was so sick to my stomach. I was on gravel Ben: Do you get seasick?
Cristine: Yeah, I mean I didn't throw up or anything So it wasn't that severe but I was just so sick. I couldn't enjoy myself I didn't want to drink at all at the time I like would have liked to drink because I was you know, young and fresh and 20 years old Whatever, but no it was awful and the cruise ship itself like I much I was so much happier once we got off On the islands and got to explore and just like feel the nice Humidity of the climate
Ben: You didn't want to get back on the boat?
Cristine: But the cruise ships were kind of like gross and I felt claustrophobic honestly in the cabins Yeah, it's not a good situation Ben: Yeah, that sounds terrible Nothing about a cruise appeals to me and that has nothing to do with what's going on now It's just I've never been interested in being on a cruise. Have we never been on a boat together though? How did I not know that you got seasick?
Cristine: Well I get carsick too actually Ben: Actually yeah, I knew that
Cristine: When I'm on Twitter for too long in the car Ben: Cristine can't look at her phone in the car for too long Cristine: Open the window, I'm getting sick Ben: Maybe just sick of all that garbage you're seeing on Twitter.
Cristine: Yeah Ben: So is that it we're talking Florida a cruise the Dominican Republic at one time Cristine: Is that it? I feel like I'm forgetting things. Oh obviously. We've been to LA a few times for Vidcon Ben: Yeah, let's make a distinction between you know, travel vacations we've had and yeah, obviously more Lately there have been some opportunities that have come your way because of YouTube where you know VidCon says hey Do you want to come to VidCon London? And actually we ultimately didn't go to that one
Cristine: Or VidCon Australia
Ben: Or VidCon Australia as well Yeah, or you know, but we end up we've been going to LA quite a bit the last few years To go to VidCon or to go things like the streamys or just to visit some of the friends We've made through the industry now
Cristine: And New York as well for Holo Taco
Ben: Actually yeah. Good point so Holo Taco's operations are out of New York and New Jersey sort of the the warehouse and Headquarters are sort of split between the two states So yeah We've had quite a few trips down to New York,
Cristine: We've also been to New York for YouTube creators summit Yeah, two years, I think But these are all I guess work related YouTube
Ben: Traveling for work is very different than vacation and I understand like in some ways you can try to make it satisfy both those itches like You you were invited to graveyard girls makeup palette restock
Cristine: Oh yeah, Austin, Texas Ben: But we were only there for a weekend and we Didn't get to do a ton But I thought we got like this brief experience of the city outside of having to go to some beauty guru party That was a very strange experience.
Cristine: It was fun though like something I would normally never do go to a makeup palette launch party. I don't know if people know that yet I went to graveyard girls Tarte palette launch party
Ben: How long ago was this? Cristine: Four years ago. It was a really long time ago Ben: She seemed very nice to me and I got along with her her boyfriend who called himself the dog man just dog man? Not the dog man. I can't remember Strange thing to call yourself. He seemed like a very sweet guy But it was also kind of strange because I guess we didn't have many YouTube friends Cristine: I was just so flattered at the time to be invited to like a makeup launch Party and like Bunny personally invited me and I was like what? Yeah, okay. We're going to Dallas, Texas Ben: So yeah, we've been to, Texas Everything is bigger there. Can confirm. The guy who picked us up from the air- this was right after Trump got elected. Actually, maybe I shouldn't say this but the guy who picked us up from the airport Was it like talking to us about guns And how many guns he had and it was complaining about Hillary Look it just we very quickly realized we were in
Cristine: He was so different. Yeah, I find that so fascinating I mean not fascinating poor choice of words, but maybe like a little scary because The first thing the driver did was ask us like, where are you coming from? And we're like Canada and then he just went on a rant about how we don't have guns and he does And I was like, okay
Ben: Do you have one right now?
Cristine: Oh my god Is there one in the car?
Cristine: He's like "I believe in open carry" you know, anyways, it's just very different culturally, so when I do travel some places I really noticed the difference
Ben: But this is also the benefit of traveling it opens up your world to How different parts of the world just have different cultures, you know?
Cristine: No, I understand. But you know, I'm also just comfortable here Ben: Don't you think it's possible to be too comfortable though? Like I When I was in high school my family and I went on a trip to Italy and I remember that feeling like a kind of important moment in me growing up because it was the first time I really saw how How differently some people live and I think mostly from a work culture perspective. I don't mean to suggest Italian people are lazy. I don't want people to get the wrong impression
Cristine: But they have different like hours of work and they respect family time
Ben: Yeah, there's this totally different cultural expectation at least from what I observed about people not just working themselves to death like we see in a lot Western societies or like Cristine: Hustle harder
Ben: Hustle harder, well just the idea of like the lawyer who has a heart attack at age 35 because he works like 70 hour weeks like Cristine: Yeah
Ben: That's insane. But the idea of like I remember being in Italy and like at certain times It was difficult like the shops just closed down for a certain time in the afternoon I don't know if it was this particular time of year or if that was just a thing but it's like No People just decide not to work sometimes so you won't be able to get something from the store and people just had this different There was a different pace of life there. Like children were drinking wine. Its just seeing the way different cultures live without Judging it But just observing and making you question some of the things you take for granted about the way you live your own life Where you live right now Cristine: Yeah
Ben: So that's one place. I've been maybe will talk about my travel history a little more.
Cristine: Yeah, Ben Where have you been on vacation?
Ben: So Italy like I just said was a family trip.
Cristine: How old were you? Ben: I was still in high school, but I think close to done high school So I must spend 16 17 something like that. And that was a fun trip although traveling with your family is pretty different than Traveling on your own or with a significant other right? So that is one place I'd like to go with you at some point, you know best meal I've ever had in my life Cristine: What was it?
Ben: It was in Tuscany it was this pasta and this truffle sauce.
Cristine: Was it gnocchi? You love gnocchi Ben: I do love gnocchi
Cristine: Was it hummus?
Ben: We don't eat a lot of pasta though. Low carb
Cristine: Where is hummus from? Ben: Where is it? I think is it I think that's somewhat contested You know Cristine: Is it Lebanese?
Ben: I think Lebanese people want to take credit Cristine: Or is it Mediterranean like Greek? Ben: I think around that whole region a lot of people Cristine: So we have to go to all these places and try all their hummus
Ben: Got a hummus tour of the world. That would be fun Cristine: It's the world hummus tour
Ben: I think my perspective on travels different to because when I was I guess 10 or 11 years old my My dad my dad worked for the government here in Canada for Transport, Canada Basically the government agency that regulates travel and he was specifically in Aeronautical law he's got a background in law and he got offered a job to work for basically the same agency but the Australian version, so when I, in 1997 I think when I'm like nine years old or eight years old our whole family just picked up and moved to Australia which was like a pretty crazy experience It was pretty eye-opening. I really feel for people who have to move around a lot when they're younger
Cristine: Because of their parents
Ben: Yeah they have to pick up and Put new roots down. So even though we just moved there for two years and then moved back to Canada It really sort of interrupted that process of like developing that stable friend group through Like grade school and grade seven and eight and high school and all that So yeah I remember that being strange and I think for that reason I remember not being too happy about it in retrospect though I realized it was a very I was very fortunate to have that experience that I I can say I lived in a different country I kind of experienced there a different culture got to see some amazing wildlife and
Cristine: Kangaroos? Ben: We Snorkeled the Great Barrier Reef. I think my parents did a pretty good job of like You know knowing that we wouldn't live there forever We did take the opportunity to travel around and see see different parts of Australia and that is another place I would like to
Cristine: Go on vacation? Ben: I would like to go on a vacation to Australia with you, the problem there is just getting to Australia Cristine: It's so far
Ben: That flight is brutal
Cristine: Guys its so far it's further than six hours away Ben: When we did it back then they couldn't even fuel the planes long enough that you couldn't you couldn't fly direct from Canada to Australia So the plane would have to stop in the middle of the ocean land in Hawaii just to refuel
Cristine: That's kind of scary Like what if you miss Hawaii Ben: It's a pretty big island
Cristine: Houston Ben: But I remember it's also a cool opportunity that one of the times we actually just stopped in Hawaii for a few days rather than Just continuing the trip. So I've been to Hawaii as well Cristine: So was that a big, well when you're in Hawaii was kind of like a vacation Stopover
Ben: It was just a way of breaking up the 19 hours of travel time.
Cristine: But when you've been in Australia you lived there? Ben: Yeah So Australia I lived there for two years and went to school so it didn't feel like a vacation if that's what you're asking and actually the really The weird thing about that too was their school year starts at a different time? So I had to jump ahead half a grade when we were there And I remember that being like kind of tough and stressful and all the kids
Cristine: What was it like to not be the smartest person in the class anymore, Ben Tell us
Ben: Fucked my shit up man.
Cristine: How awful was it Ben. Tell us more teach us Ben: Well I think the the Bigger takeaway is when I came back to Canada and all of a sudden I was half a grade ahead of people that probably explains my arrogance Cristine: This explains a lot about you Ben.
Ben: I remember coming like This is gonna sound arrogant. I remember coming back to Canada and like going into whatever grade it would have been five or six or something and Sitting down in this class and the teachers like reading to the reading to the class I'm just looking around to these kids being like holy shit. Am I back in kindergarten? It just felt so strange. I don't know It's it's a very vivid memory for me of how different that was. Anyway, I'm getting kind of sidetracked so I saw Australia lived in for a while super awesome experience the best and worst thing about Australia from my perspective is the wildlife They've got
Cristine: Best and worst?
Ben: Yeah, because the wildlife is amazing. They've got beautiful like birds and mammals marsupials like the Kangaroos and stuff that everyone wants to see Is just just incredible to see if you're into wildlife at all, I guess but on the flip side and maybe I shouldn't tell you this because I might discourage you from wanting to go but Like the insects the spiders the snakes are
Cristine: Centipedes? Ben: No centipedes, well the thing is like the the really big spiders. I remember being the freakiest thing to me like Cristine: don't they have tarantulas? Ben: I don't know about that, but it's not the big spiders. You should be concerned about like yeah, they're scary looking it's actually the small colourful ones like the red backs the black ones with like the red speck like there are there is Insects there that could mess you up if you get stung by them That's kind of scary and maybe more so our more relatable is I remember we'd go biking a lot there and My I think it was my dad had like a white helmet and we'd be biking along and these birds would just attack him Magpies would just attack people biking by with helmets I think they cared more about white helmets than others because they thought it was just another bird swooping by but like birds would attack you and occasionally like on the bike trail like You'd notice there's just like some Brown snake on the bike path So yeah the wildlife there is is amazing and also kind of terrifying
Cristine: And that's like in the city though?
Ben: Yeah This was in Canberra the capital of Australia.
Cristine: I can understand if you're in a more rural area, but Like here we have, you know, there might be bears or coyotes in a rural area But you're definitely not gonna see that in the city.
Ben: No we, I mean We're like this isn't like on my street I'm not seeing a kangaroo hop down my street
Cristine: That would be really cute
Ben: But if I go to Like a park or a field nearby where there is some wildlife like it wasn't weird to see kangaroos In random places sometimes to kind of like deer would be in Canada, you know You know occasionally you'll see a deer by the side of the road if you're driving kind of outside of the city a little bit These kangaroos I think are kind of similar that
Cristine: They're cute Ben: They are cute
Cristine: Never met one, but they look cute.
Ben: I would like you to meet a kangaroo Cristine: Okay, I mean, no promises Ben: So other than that the only other I guess big trip I've taken is I went to Turkey With a few friends from high school when we were all in undergrad Trying to remember when this would have been I had a friend who was Turkish so I don't think I would have gone if I didn't know someone who spoke Turkish and was able to sort of show us around But that was a really interesting trip as well so I can technically say I've been to Asia just because Istanbul is A city that actually is both on the European and Asian side, which is a really fascinating city I had a good time in Turkey. Especially Cappadocia was a really interesting place It's if you ever seen the pictures there's if you have ever seen pictures people taking hot-air balloons over it like these domed Sort of really old-looking How is this sort of like carved out of the stone almost? It's hard to describe but Turkeys a really, was an interesting place let's say Cristine: Interesting
Ben: Very interesting I had an interesting time in Turkey Cristine: Were any of those a dream vacation or have you still not satisfied your dream vacation? Ben: Well, I mean, it's not like you take a vacation you're like oh I don't need to take vacations
Cristine: Isn't that how it works though? see that's what I don't understand.
Ben: You just can't relate to this at all eh? Cristine: I feel like Ben and I have argued about this before, he'll tell me Cristine, You just need a vacation and then you'll feel better you'll feel more rested and stress-free and you can get back to work and like feel good about it and Just like just take a break, but for me anytime I go on vacation or take a break really for my work It doesn't matter where I am if I'm in the Sun or not I'm just thinking about what I need to do when I get home I don't know how to just relax and if I do then I'm just setting myself up for more stress when I return so even if I do, and I have occasionally like if we go to a spa I'm with Corinne and she's like relax girl and like yes It is true that I eventually will learn how to stop thinking about things I need to do, but practically speaking upon return from said vacation You still have shit to do Ben: Yeah, but you don't feel at all refreshed or recharged from my taking a break from things Cristine: No, I feel like now I have less time to do what I need to do in Because I just spent the last however many days not doing it Ben: But what's your plan here? Just like work until you're in the grave. I don't get it. Cristine: I don't know Ben: I know what you mean because we went to Vermont once together. My sister lived in Vermont. Remember we drove down there Beautiful, but yeah, like two days into the trip We're sitting by the pool and you're just like stressed out and I'm like, what's wrong? You're like I feel like I should be working right now. I should be home making a youtube video Cristine:I just had so much stuff to do and I knew that when I got home I would have to do it all in less Time that's the the biggest problem if you return from vacation And let's say like the rest of the world froze for that week that you were away then all everything is equal So then it that would be fine, but that's not how reality works Ben: Doesn't work that way. I mean, I don't really relate to what you're saying at all to be honest But I do kind of get you know How sometimes people complain when they get back from a vacation like oh I need a vacation from my vacation it probably just means you're vacationing wrong. But like I kind of get it right like You can get different things from a vacation maybe you want to go somewhere and just Experience as much and do as much interesting and random stuff you can do in that place as possible Before you come back and with those types of vacations like yeah They're probably not relaxing cuz you were trying to do like way too much like when we went to Banff with Rob and Corinne I had planned out like a lot of stuff for us to do and then I think like five days into the trip We're all just like we just want to nap on the couch and go to the bar and have a drink and that's fine, too Right like you shouldn't be coming back from a vacation. I think Feeling exhausted. I don't think that's the point. I I guess I have some cognitive dissonance right like a perfect vacation is One where you both get that relaxation, but you also get the interesting Culture or history or activities that are unique to that particular place? So if you ask me what my dream vacation is right now I want my answer to be like I want to go somewhere super different and interesting and exotic and do weird stuff and Also get that relaxation component but if I'm being completely truthful and honest I'm swung more in the direction of Because we spend so much time working and we don't often give ourselves a break I am more interested in those kinds of trips or vacations that are about relaxing Like if I if I close my eyes right now and picture my dream vacation We're at a hotel room. It has its own private infinity pool. You're wearing a little bathing suit there Cristine:Everyone is rolling their eyes Ben: But seriously just the idea of going somewhere like Santorini in Greece if it was less busy and full of tourists But just having like some private place where we could just relax in the Sun and not worry about everything else going on
Cristine: I mean that sounds nice, but my dream vacation Is one where when I come back I don't come back to more work or work that I need to make up for Ben: That says nothing about the vacation that just says Something about how you're living the rest of your life Cristine.
Cristine: Okay. Are you my psychologist? Ben: Do you want to actually get into this?
Cristine: Simplytherapy session Ben: I feel like in the past few months you have gotten better at managing.
Cristine: I've been going to bed at a reasonable hour Okay, I am doing very well Ben: And you have put less pressure on yourself to always be putting out content or getting things done
Cristine: Thats only 2020 But now 2020 is just completely cancelled. Ben: I guess it's hard to say at this point But if if your response to dream vacation, the first thing that pops into your head is how much you have to do at home Yeah, that's a problem with how you're living the rest of your life. Not with Cristine: Is it though or am I just an incredibly productive? Person who gets shit done and I don't think that you should hate on me for that Ben: I'm not hating on you and I recognize that you get a lot of satisfaction And feelings of self-worth from getting things done and I do too. I can relate to that But I can't relate to it to the point where I can't enjoy myself if we take a week away and travel somewhere Alright next episode of couples therapy Yeah Cristine: But I feel like this is good because maybe this is an addendum to our relationship podcast And maybe you guys can relate out there If you have a significant other who just has a different perspective on taking vacations or how you spend like your free time together Because I'm someone who always Kind of wants to work because I'm fixated on being productive Which I think ultimately is a good thing for me not just because of whatever success but also, it just keeps me mentally well to be on a routine and doing things and producing things and feeling like happy and proud when I Work on this and accomplish and like a little checkbox and project lists. That's just how I am my best self Ben: And there is a funny sort of contradiction here that the people who do I mean unless you inherited money but I guess what I'm trying to say is the fact that we've worked really hard and it's mostly your drive that has led to the Success we have now and the financial security we have
Cristine: The only way we can take nice Vacations is because of the work I do Is that what you're trying to say Ben?
Ben: I know, so I can't get too mad at the fact that you just want to keep working But it's just sort of frustrating, you know We do all of this We have the financial means because of it But then we're not really using that money to do the amazing things we could afford to do now because we're just still stuck in Like let's just work all the time mode.
Cristine: Well, you mean we're stuck at home?
Ben: We are stuck at home Cristine: Sorry Ben can't go anywhere, for a long time now
Ben: I'm hoping one day. I'll crack your shell and Well, I'll convince you that we should just travel more. Maybe you
Cristine: But now, I'm more scared Ben: Well, yeah, right right now like we're not traveling anywhere anytime soon but maybe Maybe I think you're sort of realizing how you're feeling a little weird about staying in the house all the time Now maybe also realize hey There is some value in getting out of the house and getting out of the city and exploring a little bit So now is the time where we could write down some ideas of places We would want to go or see once we are able to
Cristine: Once the world isn't doomed Ben: Once we're not actually prevented from leaving the country Cristine: But it's not just a Government imposed restriction, even if they lift the restriction there's gonna be a ton of people with anxiety over traveling. Just in general Ben: Oh yeah, I'm not gonna be signing up for those first flights or cruises Cristine: A Groupon for a cruise after this? Ben: Yeah, really though you're right the psychology of that these industries are gonna be damaged for a long time and not just travel right like The sports leagues which have all been suspended as of right now when they say, okay, we're gonna be playing games again Our people just gonna rush back into stadiums crowded with people. I don't think so and even work places, right? Like right now we're working from home when they tell us. Okay, you can come back in the office I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna be first in line to go back into the workplace, right? Cristine:No
Ben: Yeah so You asked on Twitter or we asked on Twitter some ideas of dream vacation destinations Maybe tell me please if any of them piqued your interest at all and could potentially Be somewhere you're willing to go
Cristine: In another world, where the state of the world was not as it is today Let me consider your suggestion Ben: You're just one of those You're never even gonna retire eh? like You're just gonna be one of those people who works forever and that's not a bad thing a lot of those people live long and healthy life Cristine: Maybe I just like it, work doesn't have to be a negative thing. Okay, buddy I don't like the negative connotation of like you're just gonna work forever as if that's awful What if you what if what your job is or what you're working at is something you like it is possible folks Ben: Do you think it's possible to work too much? Cristine: I mean like it depends if it is a detriment to your Mental health or to your physical health
Ben: Ding-ding-ding-ding.
Cristine: No, I'm fine Everything is fine It depends how it makes you feel and if it makes you just Like a better I was gonna say productive and I was like wait No, if I say that, that's bad
Ben: See everything all your ideas of self-worth come down to how productive you are Cristine: Okay well thats how I measure myself
Ben: Tell me more about your childhood Did you not get enough positive reinforcement from your school?
Cristine: I was put to work at the age of nine Ben: All right enough Psychotherapy, let's look at some of these vacation suggestions Noemie on Twitter Says I would love to go to a warm place like Bali to escape Quebec endless winters Cristine: Okay, I can relate to this because I also hate the cold and here we live in Ottawa Canada.
Ben: Why do we live here then? Cristine:I don't know. Health care.
Ben: You know we can move right? Cristine: I mean like I have eczema and really dry skin
Ben: Eczema
Cristine: Eczema Whatever And exactly how Noemie feels it's how I feel every winter My skin is just like disgusting and when I go to Florida usually once a year I feel such a great like relief on my skin the humidity it just soaks right in or I guess it's not that humid but Just the climate is so different. It heals my skin for a week. It feels so good the air to breathe in So yeah, I'd totally get the the desire to go to a warm place Bali I've never been to Ben: I hear they have monkeys there. I would like to meet a monkey Cristine: Because ©Abubu? You love monkeys?
Ben: I like monkeys I think they're interesting Cristine: Do they have bananas in Bali, would you like a banana Bali tree? Ben: I want a monkey to like steal my glas- like you can find videos online
Cristine: Like Curious George? Ben: No, like they're smaller monkeys isn't Curious George a chimpanzee.
Cristine:I don't know the specifics Ben
Ben: I'm not a monkey expert over here Cristine:Jane Goodall over here
Ben: Jane. I love Jane Goodall
Cristine: Of course you do Ben: I would like to go to Bali. I know a certain friend of ours was interested in going to Bali - Yeah, Rob lately Will message us sometimes just being like let's go to Bali.
Cristine: This was before the coronavirus.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, not right now Cristine: We were thinking after Florida of going to Bali and I was even considering it even though it's really fucking far. How long was the flight? Ben: So obviously all of that will be put on hold at this point But we were having we were bouncing around some ideas of somewhere else interesting. We could go
Cristine: Some of the pictures look Honestly, amazing like the trees and the vines in someone's little backyard. It just looks so cool Ben: You can get an infinity pool there, so it might fulfill my fantasy I like the suggestion. I'm down with Bali Michelle C on Twitter my boyfriend really wants to go on an Antarctic cruise so he can see penguins
Cristine: You know, I think Antarctica is the only place without COVID-19 so You know, she may be on to something I Would love to go see some penguins there right now.
Ben: Actually. Yeah, there are no confirmed cases To my knowledge as of a few days ago
Cristine: Because theres no travel transmission cuz no one is voyaging over there Ben: Yeah, I guess with just a lot less travel. Yeah, you're not getting it
Cristine: Penguins, can they fly over Oceans
Ben: Like even the Canadian territories right now like Nunavut Northwest Territories Yukon I don't think they have had any confirmed cases Although that could also be a matter of just testing you never know right a lot of these places Maybe just are having less tests on as well So what do you think?
Cristine: I like it
Ben: Is this something you would consider doing? Cristine: I mean, I guess I would want to just do my research first and look at the temperature of exactly how cold it gets Ben: Yeah, good point.
Cristine: I mean I'm used to cold cuz we live here in Ottawa Canada, but There's a certain Threshold that I probably don't want to pass if it's gonna be minus 30 degrees Celsius or colder I probably don't want to go
Ben: Not into it?
Cristine: No
Ben: Yeah, I remember when we went to Banff with ThreadBanger Two Christmases ago now a lot of people were commenting like Why, like you finally get to go on a vacation Why'd you just choose somewhere cold? Right?
Cristine: It wasn't that cold Ben: We got really lucky with the weather cuz it was like beautiful and snowy, but They got these things. What's the word for it Chinook? There's maybe that's that the I don't know I can't remember the right word But they get these warm fronts over the mountains that even though it's cold enough for snow and everything The air is actually not that cold.
Cristine: It was pleasant Ben: So we got really lucky it was until the end of the trip things started getting really cold But I don't regret that at all, I had a great time in Banff, but I do really want to go back there When during the summer months, yeah, because I think it would be a completely different experience like we wouldn't be We wouldn't be skiing or dog sledding or anything like that, right? But there's all these hiking trails that open up to you and things like that the tea house near like Louise There's a tea house Cristine
Cristine: I want to go I'm going
Ben: Okay. I think I've got I'm one for three
Cristine: Do they have tea in Antarctica? Ben: Probably not
Cristine: What? Probably to keep warm
Ben: Tea doesn't exist there, only penguins All right, next one Jaina, on twitter says australia preferably alone. So I could explore the wildlife and everything that makes that place so beautiful Also traveling alone is on my bucket list, but as a woman, I might not it might not ever be a reality Cristine: That's a good question. So would you ever travel alone? Have you ever traveled alone? Ben: As not a woman Answering as a man I Would much rather travel places with you and share those experiences with you. I Could see I wouldn't be worried about my safety traveling alone in most places I'm interested in going
Cristine: But would you want to travel alone say you're not worried about your safety is that's something Ben: I want to travel with you, but it's not because of a lack of Feeling safe. I mean there's certain countries I wouldn't go to alone or with a group or without an armed guard Like I don't want to single anyone else specifically But there are countries that are more safe than others to travel to
Cristine: But assuming you're going to a country where you're not worried about Like your safety is would you even bother going alone or it's like it's not worth it Ben: Well, look if I can never convince you to go on vacation. I might just start going Cristine: Oh, so you really want to go that badly?
Ben: But no I want to go with you, have I said that enough times? Cristine: Okay, we went to Banff, we go to Florida
Ben: As long as you can get a YouTube video out of it right? Actually, how do you feel about this I guess someone who's not interested in traveling and you probably haven't thought of it much, but I guess you would never travel alone I assume Cristine: No, but that's just It's not because I am afraid like the reason that comes even before thinking about all that is That I just don't have the same travel itch that I think average people have more than I do Ben: It was kind of a bummer reading this though because I don't think Australia is a place that You should be fearful of traveling alone, it's you know no more than you would traveling in America or Canada alone as a woman like I don't know how Day to day. I'm not sure how scared women are of being alone in different situations, I guess is the point I'm trying to make
Cristine: I mean I wouldn't go in an uber alone but that's just me and maybe I'm a little bit more neurotic. I know plenty of other women Who would go on an uber alone and they're not afraid.
Ben: So yeah, it really depends on
Cristine: It depends on you and your own mental state Ben: Yes, that's a sad reality. I guess a lot of women have to consider if they want to travel alone Cristine: Yeah I just hope that it isn't the fact that You're a woman that is the the barrier to you traveling alone because that's that would be sad If you felt like that was the reason because you just didn't want to be a woman in a city Where you felt at risk of something Ben: Yeah, well, I hope Jaina I Hope you make it to Australia and I hope that works out for you. I would recommend going to Australia.
Cristine: Just call up Ben he might be there one day Ben: We'll go together. Cristine won't come, I'll take you All right. Next suggestion is from tuffHufflepuff At home by myself for a full 48 hours alone surrounded by snacks in silence Cristine: Wow she must be loving this home quarantine.
Ben: I guess I did suggest Dream vacation and didn't specify destination but I wasn't expecting people to be like
Cristine: But that's that's fair and something we don't think about because we don't have kids so Right now to this point we've been talking about vacations that maybe we've been on with family or just while we're older just us but if you're a parent with kids Generally, you have to bring your kids with you what are you gonna do with them right
Ben: Do you have to though?
Cristine: And then it's maybe less of a vacation in the sense that You're not really getting a break from your day-to-day grind
Ben: Cant you just like dump them on your grandparents or something Cristine: I mean not everyone has access to maybe grandparents who are willing or able
Ben: I'm being flippant That is funny though. Like a lot of parents are like yeah, my dream vacation is not being around my children. Cristine: Yeah no, I get it. Like we have co-workers who definitely suggest. I mean, no in my experience No, but I know people who've had that experience and have voiced that all they want is Just like have a few days off of their kids.
Ben: Do you ever feel the opposite cuz maybe it's just like you You desire what you don't have or can't have right. So for this mom, she desires a break from that Do you ever you know think a vacation for you would just be you know taking care of someone else's screaming children for a few days Cristine: Did you, were you not on our relationship podcast like? Ben:I'm just poking fun at you. Good luck tuffhufflepuff Cristine: Hang in there
Ben: With your self-isolation Cristine: Yeah, hang in there with the kids during this time, which could be weeks or months of you know? Your kids never leaving you
Ben: Just tell them to go to their room. Doesn't that work? Cristine: What if you just told the kids like the way this home quarantine works is quarantine is you have to stay in your room Ben: The whole time? Cristine: That's not good either Okay, never mind pretend I didn't say that Ben: Alright next suggestion from Lou a pizza taste test in around New York City I Like the idea of a trip being like themed or around a purpose So like I I don't think this is unusual for someone's dream to be like I want to try Every slice of pizza in every pizza shop
Cristine: All the hummus in the Mediterranean.
Ben: I know yeah, you already sort of suggested it I love that idea Cristine: Where our oats made? Everywhere
Ben: Where do oats come from? Cristine: Grains
Ben: You love oats haven't you considered where they come from? Cristine: Is it like wheat? Grains Ben: You tell me Oat Queen Cristine: Wow, I need to do my research.
Ben: I like that suggestion, when we're in New York I always try to at least get a slice of pizza
Cristine: Didn't ThreadBanger, when we were filming with them They sort of did this Ben: So we went to
Cristine: Creators Summit in New York or no, not exactly New York.
Ben: Yeah, so I think it was Joe's pizzeria and Brooklyn Yeah, so I went back there last time we were there actually just to get a slice but yeah, they make a pizza. That is a pizza within another Pizza That's kind of shaped like a pizza box So that was fun. You can watch that ThreadBanger video featuring Cristine and Safiya and Tyler were in there as well That was a fun one.
Cristine: That was fun good times when we could go places with friends Ben: Okay next suggestion from Jessica Wettstein Greece for culture and exploring or Fiji for a relaxing Beach Fiji Cristine Fiji
Cristine: If I had to pick one?
Ben: No I'm saying either these anything would you go to Fiji?
Cristine: Fiji Sounds nice, but I wonder
Ben: They got Fiji water there
Cristine: Yes Ben I know
Ben: The water straight to the source Cristine: I just question whether or not Fiji has just been made to sound like this idyllic place because of Fiji water and it's just created An aesthetic around it, but I really have no idea of what the reality of Fiji's actually like Ben: Well, there's only one way to find out we're going Tell Tati she can come to get some water together Yeah, I would go to Fiji Actually on that point like Fiji and like Bora Bora, isn't that where the beauty guru brand trips are? Cristine: Yeah, you want to go to those?
Ben: Couldn't you just get us a ticket Let's go tripping with Tarte Isn't that a thing?
Cristine: Yeah
Ben: Although Like I looked into Bora Bora once cuz that's like the fancy huts in the water Cristine: Why does everyone go there or all these influencers go there? Ben: I get there that it would be super cool to stay in a hotel room that is literally like just emerged above The water and you can just jump out of your hotel room right into an ocean and swim at the same time Is there anything else interesting to do around Bora Bora?
Cristine: Yeah like can you walk around? Ben: Cuz like am I taking a 20-hour flight? To go to Bora Bora just to be in a hut on the water You know can I not just build a hut in the water somewhere else? Is there something else interesting about Bora Bora? I guess it's my question. I I am speaking from a position of ignorance I don't know much about Bora Bora all I know about it is what the beauty gurus show me They're tripping with Tarte. #TrippinWithTarte. #IWouldLikeAVacationTarte Cristine: Nope. I will not forge you that email Ben: Alright Fiji. Greece I already mentioned like a place like Santorini is somewhere.
Cristine: I will admit it. It looks really nice there Ben: I think the issue there is some of these places have become so popular that so Santorini There's a famous tip of the island where people try to get that picture of this the sunset over The volcano right is gorgeous
Cristine: With the white buildings? Ben: But you can also find pictures of people taking a step back and being like Here is a picture of everyone trying to get a picture of the sunset It's just like a mosh pit of people all lining up trying to get a picture.
Cristine: They're not social distancing Ben: No, I mean maybe that's not happening right now, but I think there's, Santorini's become like such a popular destination that it's almost like Overwhelming right and if you don't want crowds
Cristine: Its like its so cool its not cool anymore kind of thing? That's right. You know like I used to listen to the White Stripes and then they became popular I'm like, I can't like them anymore
Cristine: Its what happened with Avril Lavigne Ben: Really? You liked her before she was popular
Cristine: Before she was a skater boy Ben: Didn't she like bust on to the scene with skater boy and that was like the first album? Cristine:No
Ben: She had music before skater boy?
Cristine: She did but it wasn't that popular Ben: But you liked it.
Cristine: Yeah
Ben: Was she still wearing ties back then? was she a skater girl? Ben: Our next suggestion
Cristine: Your brother
Ben: From abstract matt Cristine: This is Ben's brother
Ben: Armenia. Yeah, if you want to follow my brother on Instagram
Cristine: Why is your brother having full of like conversations Ben: Well, no, so he was replying to me so I asked him like of all the places why Armenia and his response is The Armenian people have probably the most fascinating and tragic history of any nation Armenians have been an important part of the fabric of basically every cosmopolitan city for centuries. They taught the court of the Ethiopian Empire they were important traders in colonial Malaysia and the four quarters of old Jerusalem are the Muslim Jewish Christian and Armenian Cristine: Your brother is so intelligent and worldly. It's just like amazing.
Ben: So my brother is also a very Well-traveled person, he's like the opposite of you
Cristine: He travels alone like every month Ben:He travels a lot right now. He's really bummed out because I don't think anything makes him happier than travelling Cristine: Yeah Ben: Yeah as much as I would encourage him to settle down, but I just
Cristine: He's been everywhere his shorter list would be places that he Ben: Yeah, I should ask him for an actual list and I think it would blow people away because he works a job I won't say what exactly but He can work remotely He just has to be awake during business hours in North America are like East Coast nine-to-five time So there are times where I'll call him up or send him a message and he goes like I'm just in Spain right now But he has to be up all night because he has to be awake during regular hours. He can work from wherever but So yeah, he's been some Exotic places. He's been some places that like I think aren't even really all that safe to go to as well but yeah, he's uh He's like the opposite of us.
Cristine: Where has your brother not been Ben: I don't know I'll give him a call after this is and he can tell you where he hasn't travelled too
Cristine: Yeah, I feel bad for him because now No, because now he can't go anywhere and I know that that makes him happy.
Ben: He is pretty bummed out I'm pretty sure he's saying Armenia also because that was the next trip he was gonna go on. Yeah He'll be ok yeah, he'll be alright, and I can't say that Armenia is on my short list of dream vacations, but to each their own I'm sure it's a very lovely place with a lot of history alright from ramandamamirez anywhere COVID-19 hasn't hit.
Cristine: Isn't that just Antarctica? Ben: Yeah, you're gonna have to go visit those penguins girl
Cristine: Perfect
Ben: Okay Cristine: I'm a penguin and I got pink feet but only ones pink Ben: Alright next suggestion
Cristine: Comment below if you know where thats from Ben: From Amanda.Yap Paris France so I can visit the catacombs. I remember in high school We had a presentation on our dream holiday, and I had a friend who wanted to go to Paris for the shopping But there was me wanting to see bones and skulls #cool kid.
Cristine: What is the catacombs? Ben: The catacombs of Paris are underground ossuaries in Paris, France Which hold the remains of more than 6 million people in a small part of a tunnel network built to consolidate Paris's ancient stone quarries Cristine: Wow That's crazy
Ben: Do you wanna go see some bones Cristine? I had to look that up like I I I'm aware of them But I didn't know much about I have to say Paris France in general aren't really high on my list of places Cristine:You want to go make out the Eiffel Tower Benjamin? Ben: I mean we could get by with the French we know I suppose but
Cristine: No we couldn't Ben: Yeah they would look down at us
Cristine: Because we speak I guess Canadian French Anglophone French
Ben: I have to admit though like I have I have a few friends who have been to France and they all come back with some stories about feeling like People there were a little arrogant not all that nice I don't want to offend anybody but I guess I at least appreciate that you want to go for the uh for the History and culture rather than just to go shopping.
Cristine: I appreciate your reasoning rather than getting a Gucci bag Or Fendi. I don't know whatever's French, Hermes a Birkin bag Ben: All right next one from Alexia on Twitter, honestly, Canada I've always wanted to visit and see how different it is from America go to the touristy spots see snow for the first time I'm from Florida. So it's always hot here and I would like to experience such a change in weather Cristine: That is so cool and crazy to think about that. There's people who have never seen snow Ben: Is it that crazy to think about?
Cristine: It is like its just so wild Ben: Theres a lot of people that live places that don't snow
Cristine: I know but isn't it kind of fascinating Like I would love to I would be so curious about snow if I'd never seen snow It's just so light and fluffy and it stacks up several feet high and it falls from the sky. What seems like indefinitely it's crazy like Rain, just like goes away. Like it just goes down the drain snow does not usually I mean like stacks up and then it's just you've Built like giant forts around your house and then you're just your whole town is just covered in feets of- feets of Lots of feet of snow Ben: Yeah you're fascinated by this eh?
Cristine: Yeah anyways
Ben: The idea of not knowing snow I think Canada is a cool destination for people but Even if you have seen snow before
Cristine: I'd say, yeah, if you want to come to Canada like that's that's awesome. That's really cool And I would do it as more of an adventure vacation, right?
Ben: What is that or like or what are you thinking? Cristine: well when people think of relaxing vacations they think of Florida where she's from or they you know in the Caribbean where you go sit on a beach but a more adventure style vacation, Canada I think is a great place because we have like tons of cool mountains and hiking and Trips and different wildlife and there's like camping and there's different waterfalls and shit. It just seems like more of an adventure Location.
Ben: Yeah, no. I know. I know what you mean. Like if someone told me they were gonna take one trip to Canada Maybe I would suggest they go to Calgary in Banff instead of Toronto or Ottawa, right?
Cristine: It depends what you're into I guess I was just thinking of the the scenery and the nature and the fun things to do like activities like that But if you're into nightlife and clubbing then I guess downtown Toronto Maybe the Montreal scene might appeal to some
Ben: Montreal is an interesting place It's one of like it's got a bit of a European vibe without having to leave North America. Yeah, and you can the drinking age is like 18 there. So I think a lot of Americans will travel there Cristine: Good point. The whole province of Quebec the drinking age is 18 I know because we used to go over the border when I was 17 using a fake ID to appear 18 Ben: You couldn't even wait until you were 18?
Cristine: Couldn't even wait
Ben: I don't mind reppin Canada a little bit, you know go to Vancouver Cristine: This was planned
Ben: And I didn't mean to undersell Ottawa like I think you could have a good time in Ottawa It's kind of got some of the amenities you expect of a big city, but still a small-town feel. It's a good sort of in-between Parliament's galleries and museums
Cristine: If you want to come to Ottawa, it's just so you can see we're
Ben: Simply Nailogical Cristine: No I mean like if you're interested in in the government, it's like the fact that Prime Minister Trudeau lives here You can go look at his general grounds or look at the Parliament Buildings That kind of stuff But other than that, I wouldn't say ottawa's like should be on anyone's major destination list
Ben: Ottawa's all right Cristine: It's a good place to live. I think I really like the quality of life in Ottawa.
Ben: We have a cat cafe here Cristine: We do. So Ben: All right, next one Elizabeth Anne Kallay says, I'd love to go back to Hawaii. It's just a gorgeous place plus there were feral cats and chickens on some of the Feral cat appears Menchie. How are you? What do you think Cristine?
Cristine: I've never been to Hawaii, but it does sound like somewhere I might be willing to go Ben: Alright so this might be your Most positive reaction so far
Cristine: There's cats so I might go
Ben: I didn't see any cats when I was there But I'll let you think that
Cristine: No? Okay I'm not going anymore Ben: No, no, there are cats. Apparently there are feral cats
Cristine: Menchie When I was on the cruise actually and we were first ported in San Juan I remember there was a bunch of feral cats everywhere. And it's I was at first really excited and then I realized It just seemed like they were all pretty much homeless and we're starving and didn't appear well-fed or well taken care of And I think that there might have been just like a cat Population problem sure, at least in the region I was because I looked it up later because I was very concerned Ben: Yeah, no that is very likely the case chances are the tourists probably keep them well fed
Cristine: Oh I was feeding them They like charge tourists like ten dollars for a giant thing a cat treats because they know we just feel bad, stupid Canadians Ben: Yeah, that is kind of a problem.Santorini. I've heard the same thing. Apparently there are a lot of cats on that island So Hawaii, this has been your most positive response so far
Cristine: Hawaii. You might able to get me there.
Ben: Oh ok Cristine: In 2024 when the world is clear of the virus
Ben: I gotta wait how much longer? Do they have any confirmed cases? Maybe that's just a smart place to be right now Separated from people.
Cristine: I don't know
Ben: Maybe
Cristine: Nervous about it
Ben: All right, I support the suggestion and Last one at this stage in the lock down the toilet on my own without world war five happening in the kitchen That's what you're dreaming about right now. Karen Karen on Facebook Cristine: Karen got her whole family. She's stuck in the house with all of her boys her seven boys And she just doesn't want shit to go down in the kitchen You know what Karen, you know, I respect that
Ben: Don't make fun of Karen Cristine: I'm not making fun of Karen I understand
Ben: Do you understand? What's going on in your kitchen? Cristine: Just you making me dinner tonight But I was reflecting on what if this had happened this situation when I had five roommates like it would be just completely different and how how would I feel and How how would I cope? My heart goes out to everyone who's you know lives with a bunch of roommates Or maybe they can't go home because they don't want to put their parents at risk Or maybe they just like live too far from home or maybe in their house. They live with a lot of family members and Their peace was being able to leave the house and go Do you know things on their own, their own life go to work see friends and now they're just stuck at home Ben: Yeah, what would be worse right now being in a household full of too many people or being stuck alone in self-isolation
Cristine: I think both of them have Pros and cons, or cons in this context If you're stuck I Yeah, I like
Ben: We're only driving each other crazy at this point Cristine: Yeah, like Ben and I haven't seen other people except for each other.
Ben: I thought we agreed. We're not seeing other people
Cristine: We've agreed We're not seeing other people at this time. Like literally I haven't seen any other people with our eyes. Yeah Ben:We're doing okay though, we're not complaining I hate when like we have the means to stay home. We're fine. We've got food Yeah, like did you see those celebrities tweeting out them singing that song the other day? They're all singing. Imagine by John Lennon from their mansions. Like they're fine. Like yeah, we can all get sick because we're all human But like these celebrities are not facing the economic consequences that a lot of people are where they just don't Have job security or food security, right? I don't think that they obviously
Cristine: I don't think their intent was to make people feel bad I just think that they were completely ignorant to the fact that they're singing from their 25,000 square foot mansions fully equipped with all these activities and gyms and and Movie theaters in their homes. Like they have all these things to do
Ben: And they're like we're all in this together Cristine: And its like ok Ben: Are we in this together?
Cristine: Sure but you have it way easier than the majority of the population So yeah, that sucks So Ben and I acknowledged that we don't have it that hard. So we're never complaining Ben: Yeah, we're not complaining.
Cristine: We're not complaining. We're just driving each other crazy But we have our cats right
Ben: I'm surprised we haven't seen more videos from youtubers being like Cristine: Do i have coronavirus?
Ben: Yeah more like click baity garbage Yeah, it's actually kind of encouraging or a nice surprise that hasn't happened
Cristine: Taking a coronavirus test. Is it positive? Question mark. Exclamation mark Ben: Also, we should acknowledge that you just uploaded a video simply nailogical that was just the cats being cute for like 12 minutes the other Day,
Cristine: It really helped people
Ben: Did that help? I think it helped you making it
Cristine: It helped me making it. so maybe I was just being selfish this is the only video I feel like making right now because I'm kind of bummed and it's okay to be upset, you know, even though Staying home isn't the worst thing in the world, but I am just sad that I can't go to work wait Before you interpret that wrong. I just like the social activity of walking to work Talking to people there and you know, I'll miss that in my life I really do enjoy going to my day job
Ben: Which I think kind of surprised you since you are such a
Cristine: I miss that. I miss talking to Some of my co-workers having the tea club just like little things like that So
Ben: I know Menchie and Zyler love having us home.
Cristine: Yeah, they're they're obsessed with this actually speaking of vacations with the cats the cats hate it when we go on vacation because when we come back They're all like mad at us. They're like, oh, I remember you, but I'm not coming near you for now Ben: Well Zyler is just happy we're home. Mechie sort of holds a grudge and she's like a princess for the first few hours or that first night being like Oh now you're back. Now. You're here. What a baby Well, anyway, I think that's it for today then Hopefully this was a bit of a distraction from everything going on right now know
Cristine: You know what you can do during this time of Staying home is plan vacations? There's nothing preventing you from planning a dream vacation, and maybe it's not a reality yet You know for COVID-19 reasons or financial reasons, or just whoever you're with But you know, you can always dream and that's kind of the point of dream vacations Ben: Sometimes there's more fun Planning a vacation then even taking it just plan a bunch of vacations. You don't even have to go on them Cristine: I feel like that's what you do.
Ben: I enjoy planning. I like planning things almost as much as doing them in a way yeah Yeah, that's kind of weird.
Cristine: So what's our podcast next week Ben?
Ben: I don't know We'll figure it out, but our apologies to Casey Neistat We were supposed to have him on as a guest today, but we ran out of time. He couldn't travel to us Cristine: He couldn't travel to us.
Ben: He couldn't, he was gonna take a helicopter. He's gonna like rappel from like a Rope ladder from the bottom of a helicopter, but
Cristine: Would it be captured by drone footage? Ben: Yeah, we looked into getting a drone just to drop him off here. But DJI didn't want to sponsor the video
Cristine: Thats unfortunate Ben: I know it's too bad. So I guess we'll just have to see if we can get him another time But we'll see you next Taco Tuesday. Thank you for tuning in and we'll see you later Wash your hands
Cristine: Thanks so much for watching.
Ben: Bye
Cristine: We'll see y'all later bye Oh
