Dr. Umar Johnson Talks Deion Sanders, TJ Holmes, Interracial Relationships + The Snow Bunny Crisis

wake that ass up in the morning The Breakfast Club morning everybody it's DJ Envy Charlamagne the guy we are The Breakfast Club we got a special guest in the building King Kong Consciousness is back Dr Umar Johnson welcome peace and pan-africanism brothers glad to be back glad to have you man um first of all you look slim brother you know you don't slim down a little bit uh yes uh I think I have um I didn't do nothing intentional so let me not sit here and lie okay I guess it's just you know getting older and wiser I hope and first things first man congrats on the Frederick Douglass Marcus Garvey Academy I've been paying attention you you got the building yes sir you've been doing renovations on the building so you put the HVAC in all kind of other stuff we're just about done uh electric is awaiting a permit HVAC is awaiting controls they're actually at the school right now Plumbing is just about done they got one more piece fire alarm is done they gotta check one more piece to that uh the monitoring system is done I'm hoping by the end of the calendar yeah we can get our inspection and have a grand opening in February hopefully anyway you know you got to get accreditation too uh nah well your accreditation comes from the state got you guys so it's the state that gives you the license to operate if you want accreditation beyond that you can seek out professional accreditation bureaus but that's not legally required man why don't you talk about that more uh Dr Umar especially being that they tried to claim you for so long about you know not having mine now because if you know that your mission is genuine it's no need to respond to the negativity because at some day the fruit of your Works will manifest oh you follow my thing is while argue when you know one day they're going to see the school now talk about the the process because it was a long project it was a very long process talk about that a little bit and what you had to get through and also getting funding yes sir we um took our first donation in St Louis 2014. we heard about the Saint Paul's College which was an HBCU closed in Virginia they wanted two million so we tried to raise it as quickly as we can that was a bit ambitious we didn't succeed it was sold to an Asian uh company unfortunately and HBCU sold to another race I think is a great disappointment for us as a people so then we just started looking for a day school so I went to uh Chicago Detroit Florida Ohio all over the country I was just flying looking for a school and then in 2017 I was on net which was my main source of new property and I saw this campus in Wilmington Delaware that I had heard about but never had a chance to see so I'm on my way to Nat Turner's celebration uh August 21st 2017. the great North American Eclipse I stopped I saw the campus I said this looks pretty nice when I got back from that Turner I had to go to Cuba first to get my E5 initiation I practiced Europe of spirituality came back from Cuba and I got a chance to go into the school and I saw it I said we want this school but they wanted two million dollars we couldn't afford that we only had a half of a million so I negotiated with them from August of 17 until February of 19 and they finally decided to sell us the building for the money that we had wow so now we got the building so what's been going on the past three and a half years getting contractors who you can trust to help you with it and contractors were not kind to us man they ripped us off they scammed us they stole out the building the con is real the con and contractor I've been dealing with it for the last few it's very real brother and then finally we had our second fdmg Festival this past September the 10th and I said you know what we may have to step outside the African-American Community to get this done because we've been waiting three years for our people to help us not for free we could afford to pay them but they wasn't being honest with us and straight up and of course we know that's not all of our contractors we want to be clear we've met a lot of decent contractors along the way but the ones who we had to use because they was licensed and certified where we are they didn't really do us right so I said let's go with some white folks and guess what here we are 90 days later and the white contractors have gotten us to the Finish Line in three months versus three years waiting on our own people so what does that say it says that we need the Frederick Douglass and Marcus Garvey Academy or it says that black boys have to be raised and trained and how to be black men and how to be committed to the black community because I think as a community we've lost our integrity our honor our loyalty and our commitment if I was who I am for black people for the Mexican-American community that school would have been done three years ago if I was who I am to the Asian Community the Anglo-Saxon Community the Native American community that school gets done the first year we purchased it we're not sitting here three and a half years after purchase just now getting to the finish line and meeting white people to get us there what is the curriculum going to look like we our in addition to your required math science language and social studies we're going to have financial and economic science critical how to do your own taxes real estate International Investments business planning because as we've talked about before going to college is not automatically a recipe for success but it is automatically a recipe for debt so for those young men who want to go to college we want to give them that ability to do that but we also want to give them other means of making an economic uh impact in survival uh plan for their lives so we got financial and economic we have dietary and nutritional how to eat to live a lot of your Dr Sabi type of information Dr Laila Africa rest in peace to both of them that will be in their Agricultural and agronomical we're going to teach them how to grow they have to grow their own food in order to graduate we have to become agriculturally self-sufficient in addition to that spiritual and astrological science I want our young men to understand how African people related to God before Abraham before Jesus before Muhammad those religions and all due respect to all of them they're only Christianity is 2 000 years old Islam is 1500 years old Judaism is is about four or five thousand years old but traditional African culture and spirituality is more than a quarter of a million years old we dealt with God far longer from a non-abrahamic tradition than we have from an abrahamic tradition nothing's wrong with those but I want our children to understand how we deal with the ancestors how we deal with the earth and the land and so we're going to have that there will also be science of the black family so that includes signs of the black man a black woman the black child how to be a gentleman how to take care of your woman how to raise your children how to be a leader in the community and of course there will be military and political science if I didn't mention that we do want to teach them survival skills traditional African martial arts both with and without weapons understanding the world that we live in why is Africa the richest continent but in the poorest condition why was Barack Obama made presidents and it had nothing to do with America Reinventing herself okay why has multiculturalism been used as a weapon against African people so we want to make sure that we are graduating well rounded young men who can go anywhere in the world and build independent communities we are a nation building Academy we are not College Prep we are not military prep we are not trade school prep they will be ready for any of those but above all that we are nation building can you answer that President Obama question I'd like to know the answer to that oh Barack Obama was made president for two reasons domestically he was made president to force uh alternative sexual Lifestyles onto black children uh sexual confusion as a means of population control and internationally he was made president to go to Africa and to force africom there to build military bases all throughout the continent and guess what there's been about six coups in Africa over the past year and every single coup was in a country where the United States military base no coincidence America only practices democracy when the person who wins the election has an agenda that is in the interest of America Charlemagne you can be elected president but if your agenda is not in the interest of the white power structure you will be overthrown democracy only lasts as long as the person winning the election is favorable to the agenda of the Powershell why do you see that all the time especially with the GOP saw that in Georgia right they didn't care if Herschel Walker was a terrible candidate they knew that if he got into the Senate he was going to do the bidding of the GOP who won the runoff one up Warnock one yeah okay here's what I'm gonna say to that and my maternal ancestry is from Georgia it didn't make a difference if Warnock won it didn't make a difference if hosho Walker won because both of them are candidates who are aligned with two white racist political parties the Democratic party don't care about black people the Republican party don't care about black people Raphael Warnock hasn't done nothing his first term he's not going to do nothing his second term and and if Herschel Walker would have won it would have been the same thing one of the things we have to do as black people we have to get off this Republican Democratic political dichotomy because it does not serve us and it wasn't created for our interests that is a white intellectual conversation whether you're a Republican or a Democrat our dichotomy is not democracy or republicanism our dichotomy is freedom or oppression that's the black dichotomy Who belongs to the Freedom Party Who belongs to the house negro party that's it look at the Congressional Black Caucus 59 African Americans and more than half of them are old enough to be your grandparents why do we have people in the CBC in their 70s in their 80s in their 60s don't get me wrong in African culture we believe in old man for counsel and a young man for war but look who we got in DC fighting for justice for African people they're senior citizens and we wonder why nothing's getting done because they don't want to pass the Baton and this is an issue that we have had in the black community for a long time not just Congressional Black Caucus black church black community organization where we don't want to pass the Baton to the Next Generation and why not black men and women are seldom given an opportunity to experience real power so when we get a taste of real power we don't like to give it up because we're not used to it that's why you got 100 year old pastors running churches when you got 20 or 30 year old young Pastors in the same congregation who will never get a chance to give a sermon that's why you see so many old leaders and black organizations because they don't want to pass the Baton because the old black man's ego is bigger and stronger than a young black man's ego and I want to go back to something you said about Obama you know Obama was opposed to same-sex marriage in uh 08 oh when he but the power structure told them you're going to uh support this when you get in there that was the second term yes yeah yeah yeah yes okay because the agenda had not yet been set but when the agenda was set he had to carry it out because Obama belonged to a white racist political party let me ask you a question the students that want to attend your your school yes sir is there uh thank you is there anything what are the qualifications if there are any uh be black there's really no qualifications so be black and if you're gay you're straight it doesn't matter if you're mixed or anything you can well a mixed African for those of us who are revolutionary pan-african nationalists garveyites a mixed African is considered an African I do not discriminate between a black man with a white mother or a black man with a with a black mother or a black woman with a white father or a black woman with a black father if one of your parents is an African we accept you as an African as long as you identify you have to be psychologically black and you also have to be biologically black you understand but we don't take issue with mixed race many of the greatest pan-africanists who ever live were mixed race there's even some argument that the greatest revolutionary of all time in this country to profit Nat Turner he may have been of mixed race his mother may have been raped by the slave master you see so we don't take issue over that on the plantation you had no control how you came into this world now with that being said it's important that black men and black women even if they be mixed race Africans they understand that we will not perpetuate that mistake because it does not benefit the black community so although you may have a a white parent you will only produce children with someone who looks like you be careful drinking that that's called liquid death now you should it's water look at the can it's water it's gonna make sure I actually think that you want to get my brother nothing just gives you some regular water man is the CIA it hit it no I think that's that's I think that's Wiz Khalifa's water actually I think oh okay okay Wiz Khalifa from PA so that might be okay okay I'ma be careful cause y'all know when brother Malcolm went to the Middle East they poisoned his drink I think Malcolm had to get pumped they tried to kill Malcolm in the Middle East Johnny Johnny I know you're not okay but I don't know who else around here okay Johnny Cochran was poison and you know Johnny Cochran was murdered because Johnny Cochran was on the verge of finding out or he was going to determine how much reparations America owes African people right after that Johnny Cochran ends up dead Patrice lumumba in the Congo first democratically elected uh prime minister of the Congo uh they poisoned his daughter in trying to poison him the CIA through the toothpaste so we got to be clear that this is Dr Khalid Abdul Muhammad a leader of the uh New Black Panther Party he may have also been poisoned so uh we got to be careful about what we eat and what we drink especially me so what do you think about the study of HR 40. you know I mean because I mean that study is the reparations Bill yes the reparations bill that's supposed to see and determine you know who gets reparations and how much reparations well let's take it a step further the state of California legislature just approved in the past few days a bill that will give each African-American in the state of California 233 thousand dollars as a reparations paid I think that's some [ __ ] I think Gavin Newsom is just doing that because reparations is going to be the buzzword for 2024 to get black people energized it is and it's also a trap now first of all the reparations movement comes out of the pan-africanist movement we gave birth to reparations it's not anything new uh that's our thing although it's for the whole people a cash payout for reparations is a trap and the reason they cash payout for reparations is a trap is because so much of what needs to be fixed in American Society for African people will take more than cash to do it in other words I give d8 DJ Envy 233 000 or if I take the Bob Johnson Plan He said Each American African is due 350 000 right I give you three hundred and fifty thousand dollars does that stop mass incarceration does that stop miseducation does that stop gentrification does that stop police genocide does that guarantee us access to wealth I mean in the state of California what can you get with 233 thousand dollars I'm not even sure if that's enough for a house and on top of that the minute they give you the payment they can reduce the value of the payment through inflation so I can flood the economy with money so the 233 is only worth 120 in about 24 hours and then guess what they're going to do after they give their reparations to African people they're going to find subsidy programs to give to the lgbtq to the women to immigrants to other people so at the end of the day what looked like a step up for black people would be a step back if I was in charge of the reparations conversation number one control of all black music must only be done through the black community no non-african can control our Music Prince Michael Jackson Whitney Houston Biggie Tupac if if the publishing if the marketing if the promotion if the recording is not controlled by black people that has to change we own our own music nobody can own self produce publish promote black music by black why is that so important because music is one of America's leading export Industries America makes more money off black music than almost anything else that she sells so if we control the music we have a steady stream of global Revenue where we can build a Black Wall Street in every single city in America for black people that's how much money will be coming in from black music that's one too all black inventions Return To Us permanently everything we invented is a permanent patent for Africans and if you want to use it you must pay us a percentage the cell phone we invented that internet that's ours helicopter that's ours self-lubricating engine the microphone the stop sign the walkie-talkie why are those lights on right now cause a black man named Lewis Latimer wrote a textbook that taught China the UK Canada and America how to light up a whole city at night without Lewis Latimer you don't get street lights at night you don't get constant illumination anywhere in the world so guess what anybody running lights you paying black people take back ownership of our music Take Back ownership of our inventions next on the list is all the confiscated lands we had hundreds of thousands of acres of land stolen from us between 1865 and Malcolm's assassination in 1965. we need to put together a research team that's going to investigate all the land that was stolen from African people and return it back since most of our people are dealing with homelessness we have the highest homelessness rate in Black America since the 60s if we can get our land back that will go a long way to getting a lot of our single mothers and their children off the street in addition to that America has about 10 major exports gold oil water electricity we get a 25 cut permanent this is Perpetual every time America makes a dollar we get 25 cents of that dollar as part of the reparations payment American Africans 60 of us make up ten States all 10 of the states that represent 60 percent of us are sea boarding states we shall automatically control the port so we know what's coming in what's going out and we also get a percentage of that but here's my biggest issue with reparations three one psychological damages I'm not hearing enough of the reparations Talking Heads discuss enough about the psychological damages you know you can get far more from what your old psychologically than you can ever get for 243 years of unpaid labor on the plantation the psychological damage is what what affects us the most every time you see a black man with a white woman that's psychological damage every time you see a black woman with a blind wig on their head that psychological damage every time you see a little black boy or girl playing with a white doll instead of a black dial that's psychological damage when you see a black man take the life of another black man that psychological damage America owes us more for the psychological Holocaust than she can ever owe for the labor so we need to talk more about that in addition to that I don't hear nobody talking about the role the Arabs played in the transatlantic slave trade I don't hear anybody talking about the road that the European Jews played in the slave trade I don't hear nobody talk about the role at the Catholic Church played in the slave trade if we're going to talk about reparations bring every group that was responsible those who financed the slation that'd be Nigerians too though okay let's talk about that there was participation from some African kingdoms we know that the homie for example which was popularized in The Lion King movie The Woman King movie there were some African participation but guess what the transatlantic slave trade was a European operation it was controlled it grew it was financed by Europeans when many of the African nations found out what was really being done to us because in Africa there was no concept of chattel slavery there was no such thing as owning people forever there was no such thing as Perpetual ownership of an entire family line or a bloodline you understand we had there was no such thing as being dehumanized European slavery stripped African people of our Humanity there's no precedent for that in the world before European Shadow slavery they didn't know what they were getting into they were wrong and can be held accountable but let's not take the onus off of the true power structure behind slavery and that was the white man and you can say Portuguese oh Portuguese was in it the Dutch was in it the Italians was in it the Germans was in it who didn't have a hand either and slavery outright or colonization that came after it and when you factor in colonization with slavery you can't possibly blame an African nation for that because they suffered during colonization as much as we did in slavery so I reject any proposal that wants to make African people more liable for slavery than the white people who owned controlled expanded and benefited I agree with that yeah I don't they're definitely not more liable it's just like you said everybody nor are they equally like or equally everybody needs to be at the table absolutely but Africa don't owe us reparations they owe us as a people internal reparations just like we owe ourselves as a people internal reparations here's what I want to say we are entitled to reparations we will get it but let us be clear something money isn't going to fix many of the problems that we have money isn't going to stop the back and forth accusations in tearing down that's going on all over the Internet between black men and black women money not going to stop that money ain't going to make the black man love the white woman anymore you understand me money is not going to remove the self-hatred complex that so many African people have within us there's so much that we have to do on our own that money cannot buy so anybody who thinks that money is going to reverse the psychological Holocaust is insane it does has its place but it is not a Panacea for all of our problems and I am of the opinion that if you don't change the way we think before we get reparations if you don't build an infrastructure for African people before we get reparations you change nothing else about African people damn can we please talk about Jerry Jones yes we can you recently posted a picture they try to over the summer I guess there was a video of you I guess they're trying to say you had Jungle Fever Jungle Fever in the mall okay let me tell you what happened I thought we talked to him about that already know somebody tried to hack my phone an iPhone it went out my phone never went out I called iPhone they say okay we have an appointment for you I said I'm in Philadelphia oh yeah apple closest place Cherry Hill Mall Apple Store no problem I ain't got no phone I need my phone I go to Cherry Hill of all apples yes sir so I go to Cherry Hill Mall they working on my phone it's taking forever for my appointment to come up I said let me find something to do I go get me some suits go back get the phone fixed I'm on my way out the mall I'm done I see a stand in the Middle with incense oils crystals I'm into all that I said okay this must be a sister let me go over here I'm looking through the instance young white lady come around she said can I help you I said this shall stand cause I'm like you know because this was black people's stuff you know what I mean so I'm like she said used to my stand she had a little foreign accent I said no problem so I bought some incense a brother stops by can I take a picture sure I get a rock sister come by can I take a picture some more you've come by can I take a picture the white girl start looking at me like who are you like why is everybody stopping asking you for a picture I said I'm Dr um I'm a psychologist she pulls out her phone she said well let me see where you are I said go to YouTube Type in Umar Johnson Breakfast Club that's exactly what I do that's exactly what I took so she pulls out a photo she go to Uma Johnson Breakfast Club she said that is you I said that's me some Coons at a nearby restaurant are filming the whole thing but when they post it they don't post the pre lewd to the conversation if they would have showed everybody stopping they would have knew she must have been curious about who yeah they cut that off and they just showed me with her phone like I'm giving her my number can I get your number baby blah blah blah blah all I was doing was confirming that that's who I am don't you know they went up there and interviewed her no they interviewed all week the people that recorded you Negroes from YouTube ran to the Cherry Hill Mall they got a sat down with the snow bunny are you one of Dr umar's wives is what they were trying to figure out and she told the truth though and I appreciated that she said all you did was shout I wanted to know who he was everybody was stopping to talk to him he told me to pull out go to YouTube Breakfast Club and uh he was just confirmed I don't know picked up my bag and walked off they didn't even show me walk off I don't think you realize how funny it is that's like a doctor Umar trap we're gonna set up the incense and the Rocks but when he go over there snow bunny yeah it's crazy but I'm glad she was honest because she could have she could have yeah you know what I mean so I think people think you hate white people I have conversations about white folks all the time Arabs Chinese East Indian I have people who watch my work from all over the world I would just stop in the airport by an Asian who uh works for what do you call the security uh TSA he came right over to him I'm taking my shoes off he said hey I'm a big my 40 year old Asian man I'm not sure if he was Chinese or Japanese but he said I'm a big fan of your work keep on doing what you're doing Asian I had a group of white boys run up to me at the airport I was in Dallas Texas can we take a picture I took the picture why do I do that people say why are you taking pictures when white folks stop you because it's important for the world to know that my agenda is not hate my agenda is African Liberation I'm opposed to white supremacy I'm not opposed to white people my priority is my own people but I have nothing against yours I'm unapologetically African but the problem is historically any black man who is unapologetically African Malcolm The Honorable Marcus Garvey Stokely Carmichael uh Huey P Newton anybody who was that way we will automatically brand it as anti- everybody else that is not true we are Africans we are the original humanitarians of the planet Earth we have never been against another people but I am unapologetically committed to my own white people you just don't I don't hate nobody to see black people I became a psychologist to help people and in my work I do work with all Races but my priority is my own because we need them the most help charity starts at home and so so therefore I make no apologies about being for black people I make no apologies about saying a black man has no business being with another woman email udoka and TJ Holmes I make no apologies about that because we got to save ourselves what's your thoughts on that since you said no let's go to jail let's start you speeding now let's go to Jerry Jones and by the way with Dr Umar is saying other communities say that and nobody nobody says nothing nobody says nothing okay he made udoka in TJ homes first of all what they did was wrong you had no business having relations with another man's wife if in fact those women were married it's wrong husband white black purple is wrong adultery is wrong but it's even more wrong because you chose to go outside your community and do it it's even more wrong because you chose to go into the white power structure and do it there they were not chastised because they committed adultery celebrities do it all the time they were not chastised for that they were chastised for because they failed to keep in mind that white black men get the white women that other white men genuinely do not want you don't get the top of the line white women you don't you get leftovers look at most of our celebrities they don't they did not marry women who came from the richest white families black money and white money don't behave the same new black money and all white money have two totally different personalities new black money will jump on any poor white girl and make her a billionaire Tiger Woods which white woman rich white money doesn't operate that way you see the sin of IMEI udoka in the Sin of TJ Holmes is you had an affair with a white man's wife this is a desirable white woman somebody loves her and is married to her and you had the audacity to take away from her husband being a negro that's why they had to be sat down and if I could speak with ime udoka I would have to ask him on top of all that you chose a woman from the Mormon church that family is Mormon the Mormons historically one of the most racist denominations of the Christian religion did you know they did not ordain black ministers until 1978. their most favorite famous leader Brigham Young he said the devil was black and he also Justified the enslavement of African people by way of the curse of Canaan ham was cursed for uncovering his father's uh uh nakedness and as a result of that curse be the firstborn Kanan so the Mormon Church in Brigham Young and their other leaders said that black people's skin was black and I hear was nappy because of the curse of Kanan in that justified our enslavement you think he thought about it that deep but he was just probably hitting something yeah I don't think he was thinking about it but here's my point if you're going to sleep with a white woman you don't go to the KKK and get one you see look at the other brother uh Everett the young basketball player from the Louisiana State University June of this year he visited his white girlfriend in Boise Idaho she takes him to a Mormon wedding she should know better they didn't let him in because he's black then he goes white water rafting with the snow bunny and three friends they fall off the raft now he's an athlete six foot whatever she's a white girl she survives he dies nobody looks for his body it was a stranger who called the police and said he was missing he turned up dead a couple days later another Mormon why did his parents let him go visit a white girl in Boise Idaho and why are you going to a Mormon wedding and IMEI udoku why you sleeping with a Mormon woman when you look at the history of the Mormon people I'm not saying everyone but structurally and systematically they have been against black folks so my goodness if you're going to do it find a liberal or something you don't get a Mormon it's absolutely ridiculous that they did that but they were wrong in what they were doing but they're being punished not for adultery they're being punished for being black men with white women with TJ Holmes I think that they about to demonize him in a real way like they even already put out a story that he was having multiple Affairs yeah you are not allowed to touch the white women that white men have claimed or considered to be marriage worthy you get the leftovers our athletes our celebrities they all got leftovers they do not get top of the crop white girls and Anime TJ Holmes made a mistake of messing with women white women who were untouched made Untouchable by white males so top of the crop white women is married financial status or just women that are mad bloodline okay you have to come from one of them families with them names it could also be Financial as well you follow what I'm saying but white men determine who those women are and it's normally a mix of income status and bloodline as well as occupation you follow what I'm saying they're not poor they don't come from poor means they're not a first generation millionaires you understand black men don't generally get those women and married white women are automatically included in that by virtue that they've been claimed by a white man I want to ask you something for you have you ever seen an interracial relationship that was acceptable to you no interracial relationship is acceptable because we have too many black women who are unmarried black women are the largest population on the planet Earth if you can't find one in America get it from Africa if you can't get it from Africa go to the Caribbean go to Canada go to Europe why would a black man need to copulate build a family with anything other than a black woman when you have so many black women available it is an exercise in self-hatred there's no way to get around it do you think Kanye West if he had a black woman things would be different oh absolutely I think Kim Kardashian used him and the fact that they're making that man pay two hundred thousand dollars a month in child support when both he and the wife are billionaires are absolutely uh ridiculous I think they want to break him I think they want to break him and although I don't agree with the way in which Kanye articulated some of his thoughts I appreciate the fact that he was the first black man since Michael Jackson to speak truth to power to specifically identify certain communities of Europeans who have exploited gangster rap black entertainers and other people since its Inception and nobody has called them out he's the first to do it since Michael Jackson but when Michael did it he wasn't in his prime Kanye did it in his prime I can't give Kanye no respect because I've never seen a black man seek more white validation than Kanye West well that's the issue is not choosing a side one day it's about saving our people the next day you on a date with another snow bunny one day it's about helping me oppressed the next day you're campaigning for Donald Trump one day it's about being independent the next day I'm hearing about you going into business with some with uh some white man make up your mind I think Kanye is trying to figure out where he is but he got to make up his mind because you're too healthy Skelter and at this point I'ma be honest with you although I appreciate Kanye's honesty I think most of his agenda is about Kanye and I'm going to say that because when I look at our black billionaire class whether it's Kanye whether it's Oprah whether it's Jay-Z whether it's Tyler Perry even if he's no longer in that class none of them LeBron puffy none of them have built an independent black Institution for the black community anywhere in this country not one how many lashes would Kanye get Kanye will probably get I'm still working on Kanye lash count because I want to see where he ends up yeah I need him to make up his mind and then stay there okay and I need him to be a little bit more articulate but what he says because although I think Kanye is on the right track he's not articulating himself well enough he's not controlling his public narrative so when I do interviews like this or any interview I go out of my way to be careful with my wording so nobody can try to use it against me later you have to try to control your narrative and he will get on the platform and say some things that he may not even believe just for the shot value and you're now giving the media the opportunity to Brand you something that you are not that's even worse to me though if you don't if you don't even have no real intention or you don't even know what the hell you're saying that's so anti-intellectual well the issue is Kanye I think he's very brilliant but I also think he's dealing with some unaddressed mental health issues that is true that is true you said none of them have built institutions and and I would not put him on the same level as a Kyrie Irving because I believe Kyrie is 100 genuine in his thinking I think he's very be thought out and I think Kyrie does a good job of controlling his narrative and I think that community that tried to destroy him could be accused of being hypocritical because Jeff Bezos the 139 billion dollar owner of Amazon has just issued a statement a few days ago they're not removing the DVD oh no that wasn't Jeff Bezos that was the other that was the the current CEO of Amazon CEO okay but Jeff Bezos is still the owner isn't he uh he's got a percentage in it but it was the current the person who made that statement was the current CEO okay current CEO Jeff Bezos whoever Amazon is not pulling a DVD they have not been uh accused of being anti-semitic they have not been accused of being racist they have not been accused of being a hate Monger of any other people so if kind if Kyrie can be accused of all that for sharing a video that he was not in how is it that Amazon gets none of the smoke when they said they're not going to pull up they begin yesterday and I asked him the same question what he said and he said they have been given but they also said that it's illegal uh in what state in Germany that's a country in Germany the country to actually have that I guess so in Germany because of the notification of Germany I forgot how he worded it I think he was saying that the but Amazon is global that's one country that's why so because they can't sell it in Germany it's acceptable no they don't want it up period but they but you know they but where is the media campaign by them to crucify Amazon the way they crucify Kanye excuse me Kyrie for sharing the video that Amazon is making millions of dollars on I will say it's hypocritical I will say this doctor I feel like sometimes we can't be selective moralists but I think sometimes we as in black people on social media make these stories bigger because if we wanted like the Brett Favre situation Amazon if we talked about those situations like we talk about other things we would create those campaigns but the white Media made Kanye's excuse me Kyrie's situation and issue so if you're going to make it an issue for Kyrie White media making an issue for Amazon White media I mean White media did report on it when ADL report didn't get the same energy anybody who practices selective morality whether you're European Jew whether you a revolutionary pan-africanist whether you're a socialist a Christian a Muslim a Hebrew selective morality is hypocrisy because what I'm saying if Envy does it is wrong and he should be punished if Charlemagne does it it's okay Amazon is still selling it they have yet to be branded by the ADL or anybody else's anti-semitic that's hypocrisy that's what I that's one of the questions about hypocrisy that's one of the questions I asked Jonathan Greenblatt I said you know it feels like um when when we do something there's consequences for you yes so I asked him how do you punish that level of white privilege how do you punish it down they're not going to punishment because at the end of the day white supremacy requires commitment and loyalty from all groups of white people they may have their internal differences but at the end of the day they all agree that black people must be kept in their place vikari and Kanye issue was more about suppressing free speech for heterosexual black males than it was about anti-Semitism or anything like that look at Tiffany cross she says something on your show they cut her they made Jalen Rose take back what he said about the fact the woman at the heart of the IMEI udoku Scandal has never been exposed she cheated on her husband why is IMEI udoka all over the media but the white woman who cheated on her husband is not all over the media it's a double standard and we are not calling out the double standard if wrong is wrong it should be wrong for everybody this is not about right or wrong this is about suppressing the First Amendment freedom of speech rights of heterosexual black males who do not endorse the European narrative that's what it's I'm not against any of that you said the only thing I'd push back on is man I do not like seeing people prop up Kanye West bro because Kanye West is the most anti-black negro out here and I do not like when people just why do you say that why do you say he's so anti look at who he chooses to be with and even when he had those billion dollar companies what was under the hood of those companies Dr Umar where was his black staff I agree where was his black leadership agree you know and that's why right now as I just said a minute ago I believe Kanye agenda is what's best for Kanye I don't think it's about what's best for black people until he shows me something else I really believe he did what he did to get free of them contracts because he has the brand and the platform and the status now where he could probably make his own sneakers and make his own music and probably sell as much if not more than anything I'm giving that man way too much no I believe so I believe so Kanye's big let me ask I don't believe that uh Charlemagne's a football team the Dallas Cowboys yes and the owner Jerry Jones listen to this here's another example of selective morality how is it Brett Favre and I'm coming to Jerry stole about 70 million hours of poor people's money from Mississippi to help his daughter's College build a volleyball field or something it wasn't that much though it was a lot it was up there it was Millions it was Millions it was multi-millions anyhow he don't get indicted he don't get charged no charges are being brought against Brett Favre if a black man did the same thing you and I know he gets crucified look at the double standard in the selective morality now let's come to Jerry Jones this the same Jerry Jones who never hired a black coach same Jerry Jones doing the Colin Kaepernick protest of 2016 said if any of my players are caught quote unquote disrespecting the American Flag by taking a knee they not gonna play on my team no more this is that Jerry Jones who never stood up against any of the racism in the state of Texas and he gets caught in the picture September the 9th 1957 North Little Rock High School and then he commits three Lies when asked about this picture he was part of a mob to deny a group of African-Americans entry into North Little Rock High School he says he was just there to be curious he says neither he nor any of the other white boys or people there knew what they were going to get into that's lie number one Jerry Jones had already admitted that his coach told him not to go not to go nowhere near that there would be trouble there so how is it you didn't know what you was going into and nobody else there knew what you was going into when your coach told you it might be trouble and stay away from it that was an absolute lie and then when he was asked whether he regretted being there he never answered the question where is Roger Goodell where's the NFL why isn't he being given a list of Demands just like Kyrie was given being given a list of Demands and check this out to make matters worse guess what else happened on September 9th 1957 DJ Envy what's that President Dwight D Eisenhower signs the 1957 Civil Rights bill creating the uh Civil Rights Commission within the Department of Justice First Act of civil rights legislation since 1875. Jerry Jones and arrested him kids they knew that they were there to repudiate that presidential signing they were also there because what happened five days before that what happened on September 4th 1957. was that the ten bombing the Little Rock 10 tried to get into Central Rock Central uh High School and governor forbus of Arkansas instructed the National Guard not to let them in they were called the n-word they were spit on they were beat on they were threatened they were terrorized by white folks five days earlier Jerry Jones knew exactly what he was going to get into the Supreme Court just outlawed School desegregation three years earlier on May 17 1954. he knew exactly why he was going he was going to stop uh black people from coming into North Little Rock now Stephen A Smith says he Jerry Jones don't deserve this he don't deserve to be held accountable for his part in supporting one of the most racist events in American history which was the desegregation of America schools he shouldn't be held accountable Stephen A says since this happened 65 years ago he should get a pass because Stephen A's probably up to 150 000 lashes right now for his Conan but listen if Jerry Jones get a pass because he's 14. why didn't Emmett Till get a pass he was 14. Tamia rice Ohio he was 12. where his pass at what about the brother in Gulfport Mississippi two months ago Jaheim Jalen I'm forgetting his name shot in the head coming out of a dollar store with his hands up when was his pass Trayvon was 17 where was his pass look at all the young black boys who are tried as adults in America's prisons right now serving time in adult prisons under the age of 17 where they passed that Stephen A why are we protecting privileged white men and you know what makes it so sad Jerry Jones don't even have to defend himself he got black men who will jump up did you see Michael Irvin this Uncle Remus Michael Irvin says oh he wasn't at the front of the line so because he wasn't at the front of the line he less racist than the ones who's at the front oh he don't look like the guy with the cigarette in his mouth Jerry Jones is a righteous man and a great man all white people were that way back in the day this is Michael Irvin all white people were that way back in the day so we supposed to get Jerry Jones a pass there's nothing worse how many last Michael Michael Irvin get about 5 000 lashes for that no black man should ever volunteer himself Stephen A Smith and Michael Irvin to play defense attorney for a white man Jerry Jones ain't thinking about black folks he has yet to speak up on social district justice issues he is a racist and he should be forced to sell the team but it's not going to happen why because it would take the players of the NFL to protest to force him out and we already see that our NFL athletes and our NBA athletes don't have enough courage they're more concerned with money than they are about the movement and that's why I'm disappointed in Deion Sanders I don't think there's no defense I know I know I don't think there's no defense for uh Jerry Jones and there's no defense for Stephen A Smith and Michael Irvin defending him either let that white man speak for himself and I like when you don't take up for black people like that Stephen A you threw Kyrie under the bus Shannon sharp you threw Kyrie under the bus but soon when a white man messed up and Shannon didn't defend Jerry Jones but Steven did and Michael did so when a white man make a mistake every every black man in sports media wouldn't be defense attorney for white folks but have no problem throwing black athletes under the bus and I like what Jay Williams said that you know shout out to Jay William to be forced to denounce uh anti-black racism and he hasn't and he should discuss what he's learned over the past he ain't learned nothing he's a privileged white man he just as racial as he was then listen I've been studying psychology my whole life I got a doctorate in it I got three master's degrees in it I got two certifications in it you know what they tell you in Psychology that the human personality is largely fixed by the age of five five five Jimmy Jones was 14. if you're going to tell me that Jerry Jones is fundamentally a different person now at 80 than he was at 14 let me know what major critical life experiences Jerry Jones went through that transformed the way that he thinks nothing at all people saying well we got to give him credit Dak Prescott talking about look at his resume since then look at his resume since then Dak Prescott he ain't done nothing to help black folks and Jerry Jones ain't thinking about helping black folks I I I don't like what people say because he didn't hire a black coach though because just because he hired a black coach don't mean anything I do agree but at least it shows you are at least concerned about how racism looks on your resume Jerry Jones is not even concerned about how racism looks on his resume how many lashes should Charlemagne get for being a Cowboy fan still nah I'm not watching no football no NBA no more I'm done what I'm officially done brother we cannot be for the Black Liberation struggle and support white corporations and systems that systematically practice and defend white privilege and white racism against black people what about them they just there to get it back they're not protesting they're not doing nothing they're not good okay okay show me a rich athlete who built the relevant independent black institution in this country give me one and let me tell you what they are independent school don't give me no Charter School charter schools are public schools don't give me no charter schools public schools but it has his name on it but you know LeBron speaks up for black issues I didn't ask you about speaking let me go back to my question my question was name me a black celebrity or Entertainer who has built a relevant independent black institution with his school I agree with bank but is that the supermarket Hospital manufacturing distrib it's the heart of a community Charlemagne take care of the major problems we got just because LeBron James got in front of a microphone and and undid what he did a few weeks ago and I want to give LeBron some props I appreciated his comments about Jerry Jones and comparing that to the way in which they tried to uh castrate Kyrie shout out to LeBron but now LeBron don't pull a Shannon sharpen and Stephen A and right after you do something positive or say something good you take it back by going right back to the Django character you understand he got to be consistent speech is not enough when you're worth billions to whom much is given Envy much is expected if you're a billionaire talking talking so how can y'all co-sign Kanye so much he don't do that Kanye does not pull it back into the black Kanye spoke a significant truth to a significant white power I agree I just wanted to have infrastructures full of black people making contact you again what institution that's relevant has been built by a black athlete or celebrity this Century I need a name but you just mean School Banking and relevant okay LeBron James started a uh movement against voter disenfranchisement walk through the streets of Brooklyn walk through the streets of Harlem walk through the streets of the Bronx walk through the streets of Queens walk through the streets of Staten Island and ask black people what are the top five problems black people have in America I promise you voter suppression ain't one voter suppression is one come on y'all if we want to solve our problems we got to get serious and black athletes have been cooning for far too long so we're concerned about money I know they're making a difference but Dion's saying as you were talking about Deion Sanders everybody been texting me about this all week talk to me about Dion before you get into it you know Charlemagne gave donkey today to people that were criticizing I know that's right and I'm coming right at it let's go let's go I'm coming right at it let's go more lashes I'm coming right up more lashes when Deion Sanders stood against Colin Kaepernick's protest in 16. I branded him a negro pen he did yes he did he said he did I saw him Sail Out his mouth on an interview he said he should not have taken that knee it was wrong Deion Sanders I put him in a negro peeing Camp because he didn't stand with Colin Kaepernick when I heard Deion Sanders was taking the job I said okay I'm gonna give him his black pass back because here you are one of the top five greatest athletes arguably the greatest football player ever including Tom Brady Dion could go down as greater than you go to Jackson State HBCU that's impressive now I hear all of a sudden you might be leaving so he's leaving Stay With Me he's wrong but I have two levels of wrong I got a low level and I got a high I'll explain them to you quickly my low level if Dion told the administration and the students and the players at Jackson State that I'm taking this job but I need y'all to know if something better comes along as soon as it comes along I may be leaving he did say that he said that if he was that transparent I didn't see that I played the clip the other day he said it on 60 Minutes he said that um no he said he may be leaving he did not say he was leaving after three years no he said that if a power five School comes along yes I have to entertain it I'll be a fool not to and Dion has always been the same no Dion has always been transparent and open about what his goals were that is not no I disagree with you he told them if it comes this way he would have to entertain it he never said I would leave you that soon he never said I can be gone in three years what does it matter though his contract I'm gonna tell you why I matter I'm about to tell you right now why it matters because he damn wrong now if he told them if I'm going to go back and study some more but from what I've seen him say he was not that direct but if he was if he was and that's not what I saw so we disagree there but if he was he's still wrong but it's a low level because at least she was transparent and you gave him informed consent they knew you could leave at any time that's right okay still wrong I'm explaining a minute now if he didn't tell them that okay and I'm hearing from people who know athletes on that team that they were not told it that way they weren't listening they're upset because he said that on 60 Minutes okay he didn't say it that way Charlemagne no he didn't exactly if he did not do it that way that automatically means that Deion Sanders used abused and exploited HBCU Jackson State just to be given an opportunity to show predominantly white institutions that he could coach if he only used them as a stepping stone to getting a job at a white college he was dead wrong that let me tell y'all why this is bigger than football what case is the Supreme Court reviewing right now what is it for black students in colleges absolutely the U.S Supreme Court right now is reviewing whether or not racially conscious admissions in higher education are unconstitutional and guess who is bringing the suit Asians but guess who's funding the suit white people with connections to the six conservative justices or the United States Supreme Court bench so what they're saying is Asians are discriminated against on the basis of the personality aspect of the admissions process at Harvard and the University of North Carolina among other universities by subjecting Asians to that personality assessment which includes personality background social economic status culture this that who you are what you want to be Asians are being penalized for the high test scores and grades so what the Asians want and what the white folks who are funding the Asians want is they want want the Supreme Court to say you cannot include race at all as a factor in higher education admissions if they throw that out if they say Harvard cannot use the personality assessment portion of the admissions process the percentage of Asians that get accepted into pwis goes up by 20 percent and the percentage of black students will plummet by at least 50 percent you know what that means you are watching the gentrification of black children off of the pwi campus how is this relevant to Deion Sanders the reason I'm so personally disappointed in Dion is I thought he was there for a movement not for money meaning Deion Sanders the coach of Jackson State I foresaw a situation where Dion would hire other coaches other retired black NFL greats to coach of the hbcus in doing so you attract our top tier high school athletes to come to HBCU maybe stay with me stay with me stay with me football and back you know like I know if you got top tier NFL greats coaching hbcus the athletes are coming just like they was coming for Dia he showed you Charles and his other was just as great so listen George at Tennessee State that's one person we talking about a system not an individual so Dion and these other coaches bring all these athletes from high school to play football basketball so forth the revenue of the HBCU goes up Envy as a result of the revenue going up Charlemagne the school's got more money they don't have to subject themselves to closure they have to subject themselves to be independent on white money you got hbcus at risk of being close I read something that said almost a half of them a half may not survive the decade so this was bigger than football this was about the survival of the HBC especially no yes stop trying to get celebrities you're blaming an individual I'm blaming black men for not being men but you know what i'm blaming us for not being men that was an unmannly move can you admit one thing Beyond could have went down in history hbcus chronically underfunded of course were they chronically underfunded before Dion yes yes will they be chronically undependent after Dion yes absolutely what are those reasons that they're chronically underfunded we don't because we as black men have not come together to create the funding source to make sure they survive I don't want to hear about the government we have children y'all interview them every day I'm with you so so you got you got low uh don't the low donor no donors alumni donors okay right low endowments correct that's a US problem he part of us why you keep exhibiting celebrities they're not better than us he's one person okay but the point is that one man could have been a catalyst for a movement that would have revolutionized the survival of HP why does the movement stop just because he left HBC news just about Frederick Douglass but if Frederick Douglass would have pulled out it would have heard it the Underground Railroad wasn't just about Harriet but if she would have pulled out it would have failed so what was the Civil Rights before Dion three years ago they were struggling and he could have helped save it and for him to pour out of Jackson State the way that he did it before making sure the HBCU system survived to me was selfish he chose money over the movement Charlemagne and celebrities do it all the time and y'all want to give them a pass nobody gets no pass beyond saying this is he had a chance to help and he hurt and y'all want to condone that because you black celebrities are not committed to the best interest when Dion was coaching high school kids for several years you know when he was talking about that we're talking about survival of hbcus when he was coaching high school kids for several years you know black kids when he was opening up Prime Prep Academy that got closed down because they had Financial issues when he went to Jackson State for 1.2 million dollars for four years and said you know what y'all I'll be mistake before you listen y'all take half this salary go build a better facility for students and he got to pay back 300 000 and after all that I'm still going to leave Jackson State for a super white college who they got a 1.6 black student let me finish my point rate no no six black students which means the only blacks on that campus are the athletes and you're going to tell me that that's a step up you sold us out for money bro how can you say it's about money when you he's when his track record shows he stayed on for three years that was no commitment his track record shows that if white people give me the money I'll turn my back on the hbcus system what are you talking about that's what he did I disagree that's what he just did I disagree come on man if he would have stayed there if Dion would have stayed there like I said he could have brought other black coaches in former NFL greats that would have raised the revenue of the HBCU which is so critical now why because the Asians are being financed by white folks to kick what little blacks are left on the pwi campus off so that means the critical importance of the HBCU is greater now than it's ever been so for Dion to pull this right now makes it even worse because you're leaving the HBCU system when you had a chance stop trying to exempt black celebrities from accountability to the race celebrities are not above accountability stocks how many lives for Dion 50 000 last years more important question how much you gonna doing HBCU today I'm building two Independent Schools the first in this history I'm not a multi-millionaire second of all right can I finish my question can I finish my question I donate the hbcus on a regular basis okay I do but my point is I'm focused on destroying the school to prison pipeline I'm building two Independent Schools black money nobody you've interviewed in this studio ever is doing that not one of you understand me so I'm doing my part and that's why I can expect Deion Sanders to do his part and that's why lashes also go to Shannon sharp because Shannon sharp on National Television said he didn't even want to go to a hpcu he wanted to go to a pwi and every time celebrities try to do something good black people want to beat him up I beg your pardon Shannon sharp I know that you don't date black women you have no loyalty to black women now you want to tell the world you have no loyalty to the HBCU if you didn't want to go to Savannah State you keep that to yourself you negro pen you don't tell the whole world that you didn't want to go to a HBCU and then try to chide the black community for asking Deion Sanders to have a little Community with all that said Dr Umar what do we do for hbcus moving forward because Dion but HBCU is going to still be here I just told you black celebrities have to come together stop buying chains stop going to clubs and strip joints stop with all the expensive clothing stop cooning and use some of this disposable income that we spending on Christmas gifts right now and come up with a funding source so many celebrities went to hbcus why can't they be the Catalyst of a black celebrity and Grassroots because we should be paying two absolute movement to finance this I'm simply saying Dion could have been the face of that and was beginning to be and he allowed himself to get bought out by a white but he left the blueprint left the blueprints like Harriet Tubman saying I'm not going to help you in the Underground Railroad I'm a leader blueprint Marcus Garvey I'm not gonna help you with the independence movement that's cowardly list man I'm not I can't believe because there's enough of us that can keep these programs sustained if we do what we're supposed to do okay but we can't do that with people running away like Deion Sanders that was a cowardly move he was wrong fifty thousand and how much for Shannon Sharp Shannon keep Conan Shannon gonna get about 100 by now Stephen ain't getting about 50 000. Candace Owens needs about 250 000 lashes she out there doing documentaries on black lives matter which is appropriate because they were wrong for misappropriate that money but where's Candace Owens documentary on the Brett Favre situation or the Jerry Jones situation my disagreement with my sister she's letting white folks Finance her to embarrass her people publicly no black person should do that and also I just want to tell you Dr Umar is going to be on my late night talk show this year MB I want your listeners please support the Frederick Douglass Marcus Garvey Academy that's right get on your cash app dollar sign fdmg School dollar sign fdmg School get on your PayPal PayPal dot me slash fdmg Academy PayPal dot me slash fdmg Academy and make sure you subscribe to my video on demand site www.drummar.tv www.drumar.tv parents stop getting your children tested for special ed I'ma say this and I'm done in the post-covet era we're seeing the surge of black children be put in special at the schools are exploiting the miseducation that our children were subjected to during covet when they were home loaning learning on the laptop okay and they're now using these academic losses as a justification for special ed so I'm telling every black mother and father out there if the school asks you to get your child tested you tell the school that the reason my child is behind grade level in reading or math is because they didn't get adequate instruction during covid they're not going to special ed get them a tutor from that title one money and if your child doesn't go to a title one school you dig in your pocket and you pay for a tutor they don't need an IEP they don't need special ed they need a tutor if you need to reach me 215-989-9858-215-9899-858 black celebrities must be held accountable make sure you watch Dr Umar tonight on hell of a week 11 30 p.m on Comedy Central I always appreciate you Doctor yeah thank you so much appreciate you all right well we gotta take our flick right now we gotta close it out man it's The Breakfast Club it's The Breakfast Club

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Published: Fri Dec 09 2022