Dr. Michael Brown // Finding Jesus in the Old Testament Pt 2 // 2018-02-18

since the capital of Israel is being moved to Jerusalem does that pave the way for Jesus and the Antichrist to come okay so certainly for Jesus to return there needs to be a Jewish Jerusalem that welcomes him back we see a Jewish Jerusalem prophesied in Zechariah 12 we see Jesus in Matthew 23:39 and a judgment passage saying that he won't return until Jerusalem welcomes him back so this is certainly a step in the right direction it does recognize reality and in doing so is the right thing for America to do it's possible another president could try to undo this and push it backwards but to me this definitely is a step in the right direction and something that has to happen and ultimate fulfillment through prophecy as for the Antichrist I don't know that you have to have a Jewish Jerusalem to have an antichrist but it would make sense that those things would be in place as well yes sir well Michael you of all people are familiar with the Messianic Jewish movement and of course ever since the 60/60 so many Jews have been coming to Jesus and all that and I have of course I'm Gentile obviously but I have a friend in Israel named yoni who just from I just encouraged him to read the Tanakh for himself and through that he came to you schewe it's just interesting do you think why do you think only now Jews are coming to Jesus I mean only now of course they have been so all the way through the centuries there's always been a remnant but why do you think they're coming such great numbers and seemingly exponential numbers yeah all right so the first thing is is it unique in terms of Jewish people coming to the Lord now and and if so how unique and why it is interesting that there have definitely been seasons of larger numbers of Jewish people coming to faith in others you know the first century and especially before the destruction of the temple being a major time and there's some historians of ancient Rome looking at Jewish population and say okay numbers reduce here and then it seems to shift at a certain point where there's assimilation it seems there's more of them coming to faith in Jesus you know in very very high numbers there were a lot of Jewish people coming to the Lord in the 1800's and 1990s before the Holocaust some of it was just cultural some of it was coming out of the ghetto and the only way to get ahead was to join the church and be part of the Gentile societies of the conversions weren't real but many were very real but if if things are in a unique upswing now they certainly we had an outpouring in the late 60s Jerusalem coming back into Jewish hands God did something significant down that's when many of us came to faith late 60s early 70s and and it's been steady since then but in the last few years there seems to be another fresh surge that we we expect this to happen more and more until the Lord returns now in context the larger Jewish population maybe we make up 2% of the world Jewish population that would be a high estimate somewhere between one and two percent within Israel itself if you're talking about the Jewish believers in Israel out of a country of more than six million Jews you've got maybe twenty thousand or believers so it's a very very small percentage so something is happening we expect it to increase until the Lord returns because there are great promises for Israel's salvation so then the year we get to that the more we expect to see it but it's still small compared to what we believed for and want to see thank you yes sir well thank you so much for preach about Christology because that's in church today but also an answered question what are your thoughts our rabbis their techniques of teaching is called stringing pearls yes so there are there are many many different ways that Jewish teachers come to the text and there's the recognition that you have the plain narrative sense there's the recognition that they're deeper spiritual senses and mystical senses and things like that and that there's even the belief that they're for the Torah that they're there are 70 phases to the Torah meaning that every verse can potentially have seventy different meanings so there's a lot of homiletic interpretation as opposed to if you say okay what's the plain sense of the text that's the plain sense and we base the law on that but then there's all these homiletic interpretations and in rabbinic literature there's a lot of tangential preaching and teaching so the stringing together of thoughts that you know one thing leads to another thing leads to another thing so you start with a legal subject here and you start talking about numbers of animals and that leads to a discussion about numbers general then there and then next thing you're like way out over here but you know that's just kind of that tangential exposition so what you have to understand is that there's a lot that's beautiful and interesting and rabbinic interpretation but it can't be held authoritative and that's why I looked at some of the different methods to say okay here's an ancient Jewish method of interpretation the New Testament authors use the same type of understanding you know play on words here we're quoting from a different tradition or source there the thing to do though when you're learning about Jewish medicine of interpretation if we go to web sites do your best to go the Jewish web sites because sometimes Christians will get a certain thing and popularize it and run a little too far with it or else go to good Christian scholars and their books most good commentaries that you get today on the New Testament or at least have a good understanding of the rabbinic methods of the of the day and the the subsequent centuries so they can kind of interact with that intelligently all right yeah dr. Scott he was a Protestant minister but actually he converted to Catholicism and what's interesting about dr. Scott Hahn is that his way of teaching actually he he's he's born of allegories for example he made comparisons between Moses and Jesus Christ and actually using the distance method of teaching now for me with that yes so the I've never interacted with Scott personally but he is a well-known convert to Roman Catholicism and the Church Fathers definitely engaged in allegory and sometimes that almost became more important than the plain sense of the text which also happens in rabbinic literature that the homiletic isense becomes more important than the plain sense you know Paul engages in an allegory and turns everything upside down from what you expect in Galatians 4 but it's an allegory there's he's making a point if you're using something to make a homiletically it's one thing if you're using something to give doctrinal foundation then you can get into error so sometimes the Church Fathers did get pretty far fetched but it was almost the spirit of the age then that the Bible was handled a little differently than we've learned to handle it today so we've got to be careful and that's why I tried to look at the hermeneutical of the interpretive approach to say here's what Matthew is doing as it happens Israel so it you know there's a system behind it and it's not just kind of whatever my mind can come up with yeah thanks yes sir thanks very much for the delineating between major texts and supportive texts and maybe tangential texts on the cities of refuge I was intrigued by when the high priest dies you know that that's that's taken that his his death paid for the sins of those that were were already in the City of Refuge in the inn does that hold if the person dies before he does like you know they he comes in relatively young and is alive for a couple of decades other people that would come in and they make it to the City of Refuge and and there they live and they die there how does it what's kind of the economy there yes so it has the the death of the high priest has nothing to do with the manslayer getting right with God or having his own sins forgiven or personal atonement for him it just cancels out the bloodshed in other words that a life had to be taken so the high priest as the representative leader his life is taken but as no reflection on that person's own relationship with God or state with God or receiving forgiveness of sins that would just happen through the normal process of sacrificing atonement and faith and obedience like everyone else would have yes so if you live and die and and die in the City of Refuge before the high priest ever dies it doesn't affect you personally the death of the high priest was just to say bloodshed polluted the land there's got to be something to cancel out that bloodshed it's got to be the one of the the blood of the one who said it but he's not guilty so someone else takes his place that's in terms of the pollution of the land and that economy not the individuals relationship with God yes sir yeah I was just thinking about Genesis 22 and the sacrifice of Isaac and so forth and I wonder what do you think it would it be possible or is it taking it a little too far you know Abraham standing on Mount Moriah is it possible for him to have been shown Calvary at that point can you see that from from that point anything's possible for as I said it's possible God showed him that in a vision but again it's it's number one it's 100% speculation look rabbinic tradition says in Genesis 26 when it says that Abraham kept the laws of God plural that the word Torah is in the plural there that meant he kept the written law and the oral law so that all of rabbinic tradition was revealed to him as well well you know that's that's a far fetched reading into the text so to think that God would show some of the Abraham that would have been incomprehensible to him there was what's the meaning of someone dying on a crow what is it cross what his crucifixion what's the meaning of someone dying on it I think it would have been so far and God could have done it with revelation but again it's a pure speculation to say it so we simply don't know so I'm trying to look in the text to see when and where Abraham could have seen messiahs Day and rejoiced you know again we don't want to assume here God God could show you're living in Europe in the 1300s in Gallic you'd show you said about the United States of America there's no meaning to you know you don't know America is so you just you don't want to assume that God would have to give this whole massive revelation of things Abraham knew nothing of and then give him explanation of it so he would see it but it's possible possible yes sir I just have a quick question for you I had to write it out to make sure I'm asking correctly so how exactly were the people of the Old Testament saved I've always heard we are all saved the same way we just looked back at the cross and they look for it the cross but what exactly does that mean meaning exactly how does that look like in the New Testament we have a clear prescription of formula for salvation confess with the mouth of believe in your heart repent and be baptized yada-yada what was it for them yeah so it's a very good question where Old Testament believers saved in the same way that we were clearly they didn't have the fullness of knowledge that we have clearly they didn't have the fullness of blessing that that we have that much is clear yet it says that abraham believed the gospel and was declared righteous by God you know Genesis 15:6 which which Paulding refers to in Galatians 3 so what we understand is that they believed what was revealed to them right so through Abraham that through his seed the whole world would be blessed whatever understanding they had they believed they turned to God in faith and they sought to walk in obedience in a way that was pleasing to him and that's how they got declared righteous so faith and repentance the same as us the difference being that they were on the shadowy side of things and we're on the clear side of things but it's not like they had to get saved at another point you know what I'm saying it's not like their names are not written in the book of life where it speaks in Daniel 12 about the resurrection to life they're already righteous people in the Old Testament they're many that are called righteous so you're righteous you believe the revelation God has given and you act on it and so to whatever extent the Cross has revealed to whatever extent blood atonement takes place you participate in those things in faith and obedience and do you know there's more to come are you looking forward for a greater Redemption I think Israel say during the days of David's Kingdom we're not thinking what we can't wait for a redeemer to come and deliver us you know and they didn't have a clear view of the Messiah is going to come in the future but if they would believe what was written up to that point put their trust in that and seek to walk in obedience to God and then participate in the atonement system God had given that's how they would be declared righteous so in that sense all saved the same way and then and then in God's sight all saved through what Jesus did in other words he's the one that paid for our sins but in terms of their understanding they had limited understanding here let me ask you this the people who heard Peter preached in Acts chapter 2 do you think they understood what the leaders understood twenty or thirty years later not likely there was there's just the first understanding and then we grow on that when I came to faith I had minuscule understanding of who Jesus was and what he did I remember there was a Jesus movie on TV around Christmastime so as a brand new believer and it said and the people should know that there was only one Lord and my mother said they shouldn't say Jesus is God that's not right so I called one of my friends I said this Jesus God I had no idea I knew he died for my sins and was Savior and she said well it's really complicated no one fully understands that I said oh she's nobody is God we believe in the Trinity and so all I'm saying is everyone has limited understanding even the best of us to this day we just have much more understanding of what believers did then but when you read in Hebrews it's saying that they without us couldn't be made perfect that they are they we have the realization of what they were waiting for that the prophets were told what they're prophesying of is for a future generation so on that level we have an experience in God beyond what they had for sure in terms of indwelling spirit and a greater intimacy but same basic principles apply make sense yes ma'am it's really great how that question proceeded in mind because I have recently heard some very popular preachers who though they're not really diminishing the importance scripture they have indicated that our clumsy handling of Scripture may well have stood in the way of people receiving the revelation of Jesus Christ and so I wondered what you thought about those of us who are here obviously love to study to show ourselves approved and we're excited about seeing scripture reveal Jesus from the front to the end but what about these dreams and visions that are invading the Muslim world and bringing people to faith people who you know have no understanding of Scripture it shakes us a little bit because we want to be able to you know give the ABCs in the 1 2 3 so what are you seeing about that and is this something that we should embrace run toward or be a little bit skeptical and concerned about we should rejoice with all of our hearts that God's doing it that God's revealing himself supernaturally in the Muslim world and that people are being genuinely converted left and right in the Muslim world and they're quite a few of them that I have friends that have worked with and that share the fruit of the testimony but there there are a few things to it number one it's thoroughly scriptural just like God reveals something to Cornelius since an angel to him and then speaks to Peter in a trance and then he comes and hears the message so number one it's scriptural that God can speak in dreams and visions number two there's the fruit of people genuinely converted but number three it's not either/or these people now still need to hear the rest of the message or be be grounded in the scripture or understand the fullness of it so one of our one of our grads serving in northern Iraq we have a sizable team in in Kurdistan his wife went to pray for a Muslim woman was she deaf was that it I think we're deaf in one a year or something and she went to pray for she said can I pray for you in the name of Jesus he said oh yes I love Jesus and she was a Muslim woman and she had been badly burned together with another number of other women and they were dying and she she's next she's gonna die and Jesus appears to her in a vision the remember Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet but not a son of God even as Messiah but not it's the one who died for our sins and rose from the dead so in her vision Jesus appear and takes her in this water and washes her not only she healed but she's no no she's not die she's healed of the burns but she didn't know who he was fully and then when the friend came and wanted to minister there she already loved Jesus but just didn't know the rest of the message and then heard it was healed of deafness as well and and received the Lord thinking in acts 19 that the believers that Paul meets in Ephesus only know the preaching about Jesus through John's baptism they don't know the rest of the story yet they believe they were believers but they had only heard part of the story Apollo sin acts 18 right mighty in scriptures but not fully aware of ever he he heard the preaching through John as well didn't know the full message so priscilla and aquila disciples a minute so it's always going to be the disciple is going to come through the word and that people are only going to have a certain introductory understanding through dreams and visions and then when they have those encounters we then take them into the rest of Scripture hey but can I can I presume to do one thing you love the word yes you'd love to study the word okay okay so here's here's something interesting that we do I even saw a seminary that had this as their model so our sister quoted probably the best-known verse in the Bible calling us to study the Bible namely where is it study to show thyself approved where is it second Timothy 2:15 uh-huh the only problem is that it actually doesn't say that well but it says in Greek is do your best strive do your best to present yourself to God this one approved a workman who does not need to be shamed who correctly handles the word of truth so it does call us there to rightly handle the word absolutely true agreed amen but the the King James use of study was using the English language this refused then study an old English meant do your best it could also mean study like read and study but for example in 1st Thessalonians 4 there's an interesting verse where Paul says study to be quiet I'm reading a new book but being quiet well no it doesn't mean that means do your best to be quiet so this word here when the King James translators read study it was right for English then but it doesn't mean that to us now so just as do your best do your best to be approved by God and working that doesn't need to be ashamed rightly handing the word of truth so what is calling us to rightly handle the word and there by do our best to be approved by God but the word actually doesn't say study there so just just wanted to point that out to someone who loves so I figured if it doesn't happen that one's gonna happen ok yes ma'am Philippines that's they call you sir a lot in the Philippines sir Michael yes literally laid out clues to know you won't know the hour but you'll know the season and it's like a two-part question is I remember the Tower of Babel when he said you know if they can do this now they're united what we need to stop that and I noticed that since 2012 our global world has actually flushed down the toilet because of the Internet it's become the most hate thing it's become so just horrible I can actually talk into my phone and say what is Jesus Christ is Lord a Mandarin and it'll tell me there's no barrier anymore on our language on our works they're making three bn8 babies and they're making new stuff they're doing stuff that they should not be doing it's God's territory you can't read it Rick you're not supposed to rewrite DNA and also the other one was this generation will not pass away until they see all this come to fruition my mom was born in 1948 and she literally never had a phone or TV she got her phone her party line the you know the nineteen people I have call the same thing she's literally seen the entire technology called age and she's turning 70 this year I was wondering again we cannot know but with what John has said and what we have seen globally and with our internet I don't think we can ever go back from this but it's entirely destroyed the way we speak to each other that this world is an entire mess and I was just wondering I mean God can do anything and he's got his own timeline but in that time I where would you think that we might be compared to all of John's you know what we know is coming what we're seeing unfold yeah I can answer that definitively we're closer I [Music] absolutely agree with that protester who was holding up a sign the street preacher actually saying the end is near ish okay so on the one hand you you present some some very serious things in terms of Internet in one language and communication and barriers down and and all of that of course the gospel is getting to places has never gotten before through Internet as well but the rapid acceleration of bad things the rapid degeneration of the culture and yeah these are these are very serious weighty issues but the reason for my answer was that I got saved in 71 and what was the best-selling Christian book back then the late great planet Earth that was the book came out in the late 60s sold millions of copies and everyone was looking there it was all worked out we knew Jesus was coming any moment and you know the idea that my wife and I would be married for 42 years and have all of this grandchild 17 I mean that was there's no way to even conceive of anything like there's no way the world was gonna be here another 40 years Jerusalem was back in Jewish hands and you know the counting 1948 certainly by 88 I mean that was the generation there was no no quiet you know I mean there was if we got that if we got that far but everything was falling into place and and the signs of the times we had the 60s the counterculture revolution radical dramatic shift in our culture the world rebellion and all of this and you know you look back at it and think wow we were so sure in those early days and really we were we were misunderstanding Scripture so this much I know that the fact that we're even asking the questions and talking about it means we're not there yet that when things come to the final shaking it's going to be so overwhelmingly clear and apparent that those that are walking in the light they're gonna see it know it that it'll be those who were deceived and walking in the darkness who won't so what Paul says about it in 1st Thessalonians 5 is that you brothers are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief you're all sons of the light and sons of the day we know we do not belong to the night of the darkness and let us not be like others who are asleep at let us be alert and self-control for those who sleep sleep at night and those who get drunk get drunk at night but since we belong to the day let us be self-controlled putting on faith and love is the breastplate and the hope of salvation as a helmet and then the other thing is I don't believe in a pre-trib rapture my friend Craig keener atop a New Testament scholar he and I have a book coming out next year wait was 2018 yeah coming out next year called not afraid of the Antichrist why we don't believe in a pre-trib rapture we're graciously differing with with those in other positions but as I understand it 2nd Thessalonians 2 says that day won't happen until there's the final rebellion and the man of sin is revealed so we're talking about a chaotic time on earth and the satanic uprising the likes of which we've never seen we're talking about also a greater outpouring and harvest than we've ever seen we're talking about all-out warfare beyond what we've seen so all of these things that you mentioned could be getting us one step closer and I do believe that suddenly the bottom could fall out you know what I'm saying so you've ever seen someone that's sick but they're fighting something for years and then suddenly that they hit that point in the bottom just falls out in a matter of weeks they're gone so I do see the possibility that everything could degenerate and accelerate at the same time exponentially we're just not in that time yet so for me what that means is live with urgency because I want to see Jesus come in my lifetime I want to see the Great Commission fulfilled in my lifetime I want to see Israel saved in my life I mean that's everything that burns in me and we've only got one life one shot at it but also live in a sense that we're passing things on to our kids and our grandkids and great-grandkids for their legacy etc and the way I've worked it out is real simple in terms of how to live you ever see a relay race right so you you run you got your baton let's say it's a it's it's a four by 100 that's the fastest of them all right hundred hundred meters by four so you you run as fast as you can and you hand it to the next guy he runs this fastest weekend the fourth guy he runs as fast as he can to the finish line but each guy runs the same hundred meters right okay what if we don't know how many how many team members there are how many what he comes stages stages they're on there so we don't know if it's four by 100 or 40 by 100 or 4,000 by 100 all we know is I was handed to baton so I'm gonna run as fast as I can okay so my la got one life that's what I know I'm gonna do everything here's my goal I want to be the guy who gets to the finish line that's my goal I want to hand the baton to Jesus as he returns that's the goal but if not I'm gonna hand this to the next guy all right so I'll do whatever I can with my life and my witness to make sense in light of eternity and then if I'm number 80 and there are 20 guys after me or I'm number 80 at 81 or 80 out of a thousand either way same thing run the same way hand the baton over the same way yes hi dr. Brown um in the last few years God has called me to affect change in the public school where my daughter attends and I'm struggling a little bit with the Muslim factoring we have a large Muslim group of people in our our public school they're conservative morally and I'm very open and honest with them and they're open and honest with me about theology matters and we talk openly but every time I mentioned to some of my other moral conservative friends they remind me about the white privilege stuff that's going on in our school truely is promoting Muslim theology they're promoting the ha job day and in the world religion class they're openly promoting Muslim theology and demoting Christian theology so my question is is there any use or worth or hope to join and team up with morally conservative Muslims to push back on a moral agenda in the public school and when my friends have this visceral reaction is there something that I can do or say to help or is this tension that we're constantly feeling between each other a good thing to keep us alert yeah so a difficult thing to sort through so the first thing is if there were people dying right god forbid a shooting at the school and you got Muslim friends they're an atheist friend you're all going to work together to try to save as many kids lives as you can and and take down the shooter right so when it comes to matters of life and death everybody works together if you have a famine you know when there's food we're handing this out certain things you work together and if there was some level of the sitting with the Muslim circuit let's make this as clear as we can I believe you're wrong feel out you believe on wrong I don't like the hijab date you like the hijab day so we are totally clear on that but can we work together to keep aggressive sex ed out of the schools we differ with these things as long as you can do it in a way that does not give more power to push a specific Islamic agenda just like they would say okay we'll work with you but we don't want you to push a Christian agenda to try to proselytize our kids we'd say alright so on this we agree but we understand that the spiritual effectiveness is going to come through secret prayer and going to come from other believers working together but look unfortunately Christians tend to be very ambivalent in these things very apathetic indifferent non aggressive and then we can play it all without getting the schools but don't do anything about it so either you know we pull our kids out in homeschool them we're similar to Christian schools or if that's not an alternative we get involved in the public school or if we feel our kids are supposed to be in the public school we get involved so of course we're supposed to do this assault and light of course it's our moral responsibility it's our responsibility to the next generation but you just have to lay things out plainly and clearly and again you can send your Muslim friends how you look you know I'm gonna be voting against this hijab day and then yeah you know we're promoting it's okay so we're clear we clearly differ but can we agree on this you know and if you can it's still better in that sense but in terms of really throwing yourselves in that you do with the believing remnant with true children of God yeah yes sir when I was in Bible College there was a teacher I came and explained and taught on Isaiah 40 you know all the verses but particularly verse two where it says the Lord has paid or something double or since and he explained that the word double mean the word Kafar I guess okay eh-eh-eh keep flying okay keep flying and so is there any key explain about a goat sheep and they did you know and somebody wanted to pay that the act direct was called paying double of the sins so is there any correlation with between Darin Colossians 2:14 where Jesus took the crease no he flying double there sometimes the word can just be used in a loose way but it's all it is there is just saying you suffered more than enough in exile that's all it's just it's a figure of speech it's not to be taken in a literal way and remember that that God already said in Isaiah 10 that the Assyrians overdid the punishment and and that in Zechariah 1 it says that they that the nation's added to the punishment so what it was is they had a punishment to pay than the nation's went overboard so that's what I take it to mean double but again just in a general sense not in a specific legal sense no no I don't see it like that at all no yes sir good afternoon dr. Brown so hopefully I'll get at the heart of the question so this month we celebrate Black History Month African American History Month and sometimes I heard from older African African American guys about how slaves were forced to serve the Christian God or the white man's God and the Bible was used to keep black people oppressed during that time and maybe even still today how would you respond to someone who says yeah so here's the really challenging challenging thing for us here is that there are many things where we still have racism in America where there are still unequal treatments either in the courts or just in perception and society that need to be addressed and then you have the extreme on the Left which goes so far and over does things and now everything is gonna quote white privilege whatever and everything becomes a race battle so the challenge is to not react to either extreme but to do what's right in other words okay we're gonna act righteously before God because I'll you know you'll see conservatives are always reacting as liberal as the Liberals against conservatives it's late and we both missed the point just like with debate about gun control it's like right look let's have discussion you know it's rather than well this side saying this okay we're coming human lives let's just discuss issues what's relevant was not relevant so number one there's no question that the Bible was misused to keep people down keep slaves down to keep women down to keep other groups down through history and you have to say okay so who is it then that led the way in the liberation of the slaves Christians Bible teachers William Wilberforce white men who made who were the majority of those who shed their blood fighting for the liberation of slaves white men so we ever have Lincoln said that every drop of blood being shed in some war that that was a just payment for the sins that we had committed so let's understand first yes there was a terrible misuse of scripture to justify slavery but it was Christians followers of Jesus in England and America preaching the Bible that made things right that's that's one second yes terrible suffering on African Americans through history but then also where did the slave trade originate originated within Africa itself and Africans selling Africans other words were human race is a central race we're a messed-up race and it transcends color let's let's be honest there and and then through the Civil War as a nation we paid a terrible price as well and terribly deservedly because of the sins we had committed all that being said my response would be to say the the Bible's a white man's religion Jesus was was not a Caucasian Moses was not a Caucasian this is somebody goes back to the Middle East and had in the large numbers of believers in Africa long before there was a place called America and are you telling me that that African Americans through the centuries have not thought for themselves are you telling me that were all just brainwashed or that were still slaves of the white man that when I come to faith I'm not thinking fright you know you'd say that it's an African American I would just challenge this thing outright you know are you telling me that we haven't been thinking for ourselves and that Martin Luther King as a Christian wasn't thinking for himself or you know great Christian black Christian leaders through history American history weren't thinking for themselves and then you say look the the devil's the real devil he means things for evil God uses them for good so here you had people in Africa worshipping idols they get sold in slavery that's brutal that's the devil that's wrong and yet God's our Redeemer he brings life out of it and to this day and then songs that we sing songs of freedom you know and let my people go and and these you know they goes back to the spirituality of slaves and still to this day and then last thing I'd emphasize is that as much as the devil meant for evil on average American African Americans are more Christian than than Caucasian Americans on average more Church attending more more apt to be spiritually oriented on these points so that even there were what Satan meant for evil God used for good and again I turn it around you know just like years back when some American Christian leaders were getting blamed for Uganda's anti-homosexuality laws I had a Ugandan pastor I came and he says why is it that we can't think for ourselves why is the whole world think that we just listen to what the white man says the white man comes over and teaches us and we can't think these our own views we didn't do so that's where you have to just push back and say what kind of nonsense is this you know what I believe what I believe based on Scripture and the Bible said white man's religion anyway it's for all people you know and when when Billy Graham many years ago was fighting against segregation and and you know we can go and preach certain places unless unless blacks and whites would be brought together you know the way he used to say it was that Jesus was notice to a black audience Jesus was darker than me and lighter than you I mean God knows and that I encourage people think of Jesus and I think of Jesus as Asian think of Jesus as an african-american think of Jesus and white man just to see does that mess with you because all that's immaterial ultimately in terms of God's overall Redemption that's all in material but if it messes with you get over it you know what I'm saying because we all kind of create a savior name it's look I've seen depictions of Jesus where he's absolutely Chinese looking and I have an african-american friend of mine it's actually a black Jew not a Hebrew Israelite part of that culpa but a black Jew and he's fighting that he's pushing me now Jesus look more like me than thank you so it's kind of in-between Middle East no no he's more African we joke about it but but the reality is is the saver of all people and and Christianity is not white man's religion yes ma'am I was five years old when his rule became a nation and I still remember that doesn't the word say something to the effect that those of us that were alive at that time we will see the end and the end of what okay so you're talking about the same verse that was raised earlier from Matthew 24 that this generation will not pass away till all these things are fulfilled well in context the most immediate application is the generation that saw the temple destroyed in Jesus day it's 40 years after his death and resurrection the temple was destroyed and that's the immediate context of Matthew 24 the generation that sees this nobody sees these things happen won't die until everything is fulfilled having to do with the destruction of the temple and yet when we read Matthew 24 it's clear that there's more that's being spoken of so you can well understand that is but it never mentions Israel being regarded as a nation all the Jesus reference this is the fig tree when you see the fig tree budding you know that summer is near the same way when you see these things but he never says Israel being regathered this nation is the sign people say Israel is the fig tree Israel is not primarily called the fig tree in the Bible called the vine or the olive tree but not primarily known as the fig tree in the Bible others quote when Jesus curses the fig tree and says bear no fruit again forever and they said you see Israel will bear no fruit again forever either way it's not the fig tree it's not a primary representation of Israel so there's actually not a prophecy that says that the generation that sees Israel reestablished as a nation will see his second coming that's a common interpretation and that's what you'd be told to expect right his second coming I hope it's true I hope it happens in your lifetime I remember that when I was newly saved that one of the guys in the church probably he's late 40s early 50s and his mom was in her 80s and we were told that Jesus had appeared to her and told her that she wouldn't die until he returned so we knew you know she was pretty old at that point kind of week that didn't have much more time and she's 140 today no I'm just kidding I'm just kidding no she's she's uh she's with the Lord but there is no explicit prophecy that says the generation that sees Israel reestablish as a nation will see his second coming that's a common interpretation but it's not based on an actual scripture but I do hope that it's true that he will come in your lifetime yes sir this is a question about Jesus heritage so he's half Jewish and the other half he's the son of God so are there any clues well no he's he's all Jewish and all son of God okay sorry thank you I stand corrected yes fully man fully got so his heritage though as you would look at him when we see Jesus he's gonna look darker than me right and lighter than someone who's yeah or but just in his glory will we even be able to tell skin color okay no no the question though is like what is he gonna look what did he look like then what is he gonna look like in in glory it's far are there any clues on his heritage you know like half we don't know because it's so here's the so the best we can do for you is look at whatever images we have of Jews at that time of the world in the Land of Israel that's do we have depictions do we have descriptions there's an interesting description in early rabbinic literature from you know that within a couple of centuries contrasting the the Jews from the Germans and the Africans so contrasting you know from say white black Middle Eastern but again it's it's very debatable you had different streams look you certainly have African blood and in the midst of the people of Israel right Egyptian blood you know these things get merged in right through history so um we simply don't know there's speculation there's lots of early artwork depicting Jesus but some of it is later so it's more in the image kind of the greco-roman image you know it looks more like that we don't know if you want to know what he looks like when he returns revelation one would be a good guess you know would be the best guess that we have but again I challenge people to imagine them different than your own skin color you know just to see how you know because here think of this think of think of people in Africa hearing about Jesus and the Jesus they hear about is the way it's depicted in European iconography so he's Caucasian that's the savior you're supposed to be able to relate to that with no problem right or you know your Chinese and Jesus is Caucasian well how would it feel test if we're Caucasian and the Savior was Chinese or the Savior was African of course he transcends all of that and it's good that we don't have a physical picture you know if there is if the Shroud of Turin is real that's the closest we have to you know what would be a depiction but I think it's good to think about these different things to challenge what maybe little boxes in our own heads yes sir I get afternoon you mentioned Jesse he's mentioned a couple of times obviously David's a really big father so the question is kids he's mentioned a couple of times is there may be any more significance to him and not to distract anything away from you know our Lord or anything like that it's just his name's mentioned a couple times so I was just wondering if there's anything maybe a rabbinical or you know Jewish history and then I want to ask one other quick question you ever heard of an errand budget ministry Living God ministries no sorry I haven't haven't heard of him at all doesn't mean anything I just haven't heard of him it's an interesting question you know jesse is is mentioned and if you look for example in the end of the Bible in Revelation chapter 22 we have reference here to verse 12 behold on coming soon my rewards with me I Pisa sent my angel and and I'm the root and offspring of David and the bright morning star so I mean that's of course the emphasis there are references to Jesse but as far as we know just the occasional references because that was the name of David's father and it's honorific it's an interesting question why is he even mentioned you know why is it saying Isaiah 11 the root of Jesse but my guess would be just as David is from the offspring of Jesse so so is the Misano incidence both these roots that spring up and grew up but I'm not aware of any usage or meaning beyond that looks like Wes you have a question I would love for you earlier you talked about Psalm 110 and I was 853 being real primary passages with just the time we have left I would love for you just to take us through those and then help us to understand why some Jewish teachers that aren't believers with those two passages I mean I've seen a couple of online you know debates where you're debating Jewish scholars that are unbelievers help us just to understand you know the with the obstacles what is keeping them from seeing what you see when you read Isaiah 53 and Psalm 110 yep so let me start with with the obstacles first a Jewish person is looking at Christianity first through the eyes of church history where it's a totally foreign religion with its own holidays and customs a religion that worships a man is God which would be the height of idolatry a religion that denies the eternal relevance of the Torah and to a Jew that settles it right there if you affirm the eternal relevance of the Torah then you're not to be listened to as a true prophet and that really is presenting a totally different system of faith and with church history having persecuted the Jewish people through the centuries you're kind of comparing apples to baseball's I mean not even in same catagory just two totally different things that just happened to be about the same size so all that to say you're not you're not looking at the same system and saying hey well could Jesus be the Messiah of our system you're saying yeah you're at your belief in the Messiah is very different than ours and our understanding of the Messiah's when he comes he'll regather the excess of Israel who really the temple he'll bring the Jewish people into obedience to God he'll fight the words of the Lord he'll establish peace on the earth that's how we'll know he's the Messiah so they're not looking for the other things at all to happen so when it comes to our and that's why I have five volumes of answering to your objections to Jesus that being said let's take a look in the Book of Isaiah by the way if while I'm speaking you see me flip the phone like this I'm not secretly checking email that just puts the time up on my on my little phone holder here okay so Isaiah 39 ends with a prophecy about the Jewish people going into exile and then Isaiah 40 begins with prophesies of comfort to the Jewish people in exile and God calling them out of Exile and beginning in the 41st chapter it says this verse 8 but you Israel my servant Jacob I have chosen you descendants of Abraham my friend I took you from the ends of the earth and from its father's corners I called you I said you are my servant I've chosen you and have not rejected you so Israel is explicitly called the servant of the Lord here Israel as the nation Israel / Jacob the servant of the Lord and we see that repeated again God speaking to his people in exile and as we go through these chapters we see for example verse 18 of chapter 42 here you deaf look you blind and see who was blind but my servant and death like the messenger I send who is blind like the one committed to me blind like the servant of the Lord so Israel is called the servant of the Lord yet Israel is a blind and F servant if we look at the beginning of chapter 42 here is my servant to my own hold my chosen one and whom I delight I will put my spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nation's he will not shout or cry out or raise his voice in the streets her bruised Reed he will not break in the smoldering wick he will not snuff out and faithfulness he will bring forth justice he will not falter be discouraged for the establishes justice on earth and his law the islands will put their hope so is this one here the same one is this the nation Israel or is this an individual go down to verse six I the LORD have called you in righteousness I will take hold of your hand I will keep you and make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles to open eyes that are blind to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness so here the servant of the Lord seems to be an individual and his mission is to open the eyes that are blind and free those from prison which would be an image of bringing people out of out of physical prison they can now see the light of day and coming out of Exile and coming out of divine judgment so on the one hand Israel the nation is called the servant yet it's called the servant that is blind and deaf and Israel the servant is an exile suffering for its sins but on the flip side there's a servant spoken of here who's a righteous one who's going to give sight to the blind and be a light to the nations of the world if you take a look in Isaiah chapter 50 verse 1 this is what the Lord says where is your mother's certificate of divorce with which I sent her away or to which of my creditors did I sell you because of your sins you were sold because of your transgressions your mother was sent away so he's saying you are in exile because of your sins right Israel the servant of the Lord get a blind and deaf servant in exile for it's sentence but notice Isaiah chapter 49 verse 1 listen to me you Island here this few distant nations before I was born the Lord called me for my birth he's made mention of my name is he speaking on behalf of Israel as a nation as he's speaking on behalf of the Messiah or is this just the prophet speaking he made my mouth like a sharpened sword in the shadow of his hand he hid me he made me into a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver he said to me you are my servant Israel and whom I'll display my splendor so he's calling this individual here Israel but notice what follows but I said I have laboured to no purpose I've spent my strength in vain and for nothing yet what does do me is in the Lord's hand and my reward is with my god and now the Lord says he who formed me in the womb to be a servant to bring take a back to him and gather Israel to himself for I'm honored in the eyes of the Lord and my god is my strength he says it is too small the thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob to bring back to Israel those of Israel I've kept I'll also make you a light to the Gentiles that my salvation me that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth so this servant who was called Israel obviously fulfills Israel's mission epitomizes Israel and yet noticed this his calling is to regather Israel so this servant is an individual within the nation just like jacob's name with Israel he's called Israel because he fulfills the purposes of the nation represents them but his mission is to Israel and it seems like he failed as he's recounting it since I've labored to know purpose so I failed in my mission to Israel God says no not only will you regather the tribes of Israel but you'll also be a light to the world that my salvation may go to the ends of the earth you'll be a light to the Gentiles just like Isaiah 42 so it seems that we have two servants being spoken of Israel as a nation Israel Jacob loved by God and yet blind and deaf in exile because of her sins and then the servant of the Lord the righteous individual who gives sight to the blind who was a covenant for the nation and a light for the nations of the world and I say f51 the servant of the Lord speaks again verse four listen to me my people hear me my nation excuse me chapter 50 verse 454 the sovereign Lord has given me an instructed tongue to know the word that sustains the weary he awakens me morning by morning he goes on from there the sovereign Lord has opened my ears and I've not been rebellious I'm not drawn back I offered my back to those who beat me my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard I did not hide my face from mocking and spitting and then it says in verse 10 who among you fears the Lord and obeys his servant so the servant of the Lord here an individual again rejected suffering for his calling then we get into chapter 52 and it begins to focus on the people of Judah and Israel and exile awake awake o Zion clothe yourself with strength put on your garments of splendor o Jerusalem the holy city the uncircumcised and defiled will not enter you again shake off your dust rise up sit and throne though Jerusalem free yourself from the chains on your neck o captive daughter of Zion for this is what the Lord says you were sold for nothing and without money you'll be redeemed in other words God God made nothing from selling you into exile for this is what the sovereign Lord says at first my people went down to Egypt to live lately Assyria has suppressed them and now what do I have here declares the Lord for my people have been taken away for nothing and those who rule the mock declares Lord for nothing does not mean because they didn't send they were innocent no for nothing means for no profit for no payment throughout these chapters it speaks of Israel's sin and disobedience then verse 6 into verse 5 and all day long my name is constantly blaspheming because God's people are scattered and exiled this temple is destroyed it makes him look bad therefore my people will know my name therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it yet it is ah yes it is I how beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news who proclaim peace who bring good tidings who proclaim salvation to say design your God reigns listen your watchman lift up their voices together they shout for joy when the Lord returns to Zion they'll see it with their own eyes burst into songs of joy together you ruins of Jerusalem for the Lord has comforted his people he's redeemed Jerusalem the Lord will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations and his holy Armistice means of salvation and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God depart depart go out for their meaning Babylon touch no unclean thing unclean thing come out from it and be pure you who carried the vessels of the Lord but you will not leave in haste or go in flight for the Lord will go before you the God of Israel will be your rear guard and now as Israel's coming out of exile the focus is on the one leading them their Redeemer see my servant will act wisely or will prosper he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted just as there were many who were appalled at him were you his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man in his form marred beyond human likeness so he will sprinkle many nations and Kings will shut their mouths because of him for what they were not told they will see what they have not heard they'll understand the traditional Jewish view says here that notice the kings of the earth the nation's will be given this understanding and will be absolutely shocked and what's going to happen is this that all the world thought that the Jewish people have been suffering for their sins that is they're scattered and exiled it's for their sins and they're the worst of all people they controller the money or they deserve it and what they're going to find out is that Israel in exile was not suffering for its own sins but rather suffering for the sins of the nation's and when God exalts Israel everyone will be shot it was Israel we're shocked that's how it's understood Isaiah 53 is then taken to be the words of the foreign kings asking who's believed our message and and the Hebrew were tied directly back with 5215 this is what we've heard who's believed what we've heard and to whom is the arm of the Lord been revealed now we read this and it's so clearly a description of Jesus he grew up before him like a tender shoot like a root out of dry ground he had beauty or majesty to attract this Tim nothing in this appearance that we should desire him he was despised and rejected by man a man of sorrows familiar with suffering like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised and we esteemed him not surely he took up our infirmities carried our sorrows yet we considered him stricken by God smitten by him and afflicted but he was pierced for our transgressions he was crushed for our iniquities the punishment that brought us peace was upon him and by his wounds were healed so we read this to say overwhelmingly clear the Jewish people saying who's going to believe what we're saying that that this one the Messiah when he died we thought he was dying for for his sins we thought he was guilty no he was actually dying for our sins but notice that again when it says Mahabharat o near poblano and at the cost of his wounds there's healing for us so here's the problem big big problem with the idea that this is referring to the nation of Israel not the Messiah problem number one God said in the Torah that if his people were obedient righteous he would bless them and if the disobedient wicked he would judge them so if we were scattered among the nations in exile and the Temple was destroyed it's only because we were guilty and Isaiah from the very first verses of Isaiah 1 declares how guilty we were as a people so if we were guilty as a people then were scattered in judgment that means we were suffering for our sins we weren't suffering for other since we were suffering for our own sense not only so but God says in several places in the prophetic books that when he sent his people out in judgment that the nation's overdid the punishment therefore he judged them so Babylon I'm going to judge you for the way you judge my people so rather than Israel's suffering and exile being bringing healing to the nation's had brought the destruction of the nation's there is no more Assyria there is no more Babylon those that oppress the Jews were destroyed and gone Germany gets divided into two nations for decades part of the negative fruit on Germany after the Holocaust so rather than saying by Israel's wounds were healed rather because we heard Israel God destroyed us not only so look at this confession from the nations in Ezekiel chapter 39 rather than saying oh now we understand now we understand that Israel was suffering for our sins not for our sins let's just see one key verse I want to draw your attention to and yes so let's look for his 21 endtime prophecy I will just display my glory among the nations and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the land and the hand I lay upon them from that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God and the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin because they were unfaithful to me so I hid my face for them and handed them over to their enemies and they all fell by the sword I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses and I hid my face for them so the nations will not confess Israel was suffering for our sins no no they'll know Israel was suffering for her own sense explicitly there's another Jewish interpretation that says no no no it's not the nation as a whole it's the righteous remnant within the nation the righteous Jewish remnant like Jeremiah or Ezekiel or Daniel these righteous individuals suffered terribly for the sins of the nation not for their own sins so as the righteous remnant is scattered in the nation's that's what it's talking about but even if that was the case the suffering of the righteous remnant did not bring healing to the nations that brought judgment to the nations all the more would God judge the nations for mistreating the righteous remnant and yet the suffering of the servant brings healing for those who smote him we all like sheep have gone astray each of us has turned to his own way and the Lord has laid on him many of the Messiah the iniquity of us all he was oppressed and afflicted yet he did not open his mouth he was led like a lamb to the water and as a sheep before her Shearer's to summon so we did that open his mouth someone said well he cried out on the cross or the whole passage here is his non-resistance and that's what so strike you're not gonna defend yourself you're not gonna speak up he didn't he literally went as a lamb to the slaughter by oppression and judgment he was taken away and who can speak of his descendants for he was cut off from the land of the living for the transgression of my people he was stricken some of the rabbi's have argued for the years that that there are a couple of references to a plural servant here I'd have to explain the Hebrew it would get technical suffice it to say those answers were given many decades ago and and it's simply not accurate he was assigned to grave with a wicket with the rich in his death of he had done no violence nor was any deceit in his mouth yet it was the Lord's will to crush him and caused him to suffer and though the Lord makes his life a guilt offering he will see his offspring and prolong his days and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hands notice it says literally that he will be an offering of guilt offering here it is an individual suffering for our sins as a guilt offering what about the fact that it says he'll see offspring doesn't say his options but he'll see offspring again it's not a Hebrew idiom for having children it's a unique expression found only here the kid simply means see see a future generation or even see us his spiritual offspring it doesn't mean that it's going to have physical children after the suffering of his soul he'll see the light and be satisfied by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many and he will bear their iniquities clearly Israel and exile could not be called God's righteous servant but the servant of the Lord is the righteous servant therefore I'll give them a portion among the great and he'll divide the spoils with the strong because he poured out his life unto death and was numbered with the transgressors for he bore the sin of many and made intercession for the transgressors now this one passage in terms of passages in the Hebrew Bible that have led Jewish people to Jesus this this passage has led more than any and it's one of those things you think someone sat down and wrote it at the foot of the cross or after the resurrection and even though I've dealt with counter missionaries and brilliant rabbis and learned men who've disputed this with me since since I got saved so for 46 years we've been arguing these things it's as loud and clear to me as it's ever been and many of us his Jewish believers had the same experience where we show this to our fathers or a family member so I'm brand new believer remember I get saved out of drugs and it didn't have a strong Jewish background I was bar Mitzvahed at 13 but it was more of a social event in a spiritual event that the spiritual event for me when I was 13 was seeing Jimi Hendrix in concert that's what rocked my world then and open up the door to drugs and rebutting the whole bit but you know here I get saved at the drugs the whole thing now God's working dramatically in my life started to read the Bible but I don't know the prophecies you know the funny thing people like oh you're Jewish you must understand the Bible but now I understood drugs my sister rock music read in other words just being Jewish does that give you some magical insight into the scriptures okay could you unjust could you explain this passage yeah it kind of looks like something I saw while I was high on LSD I mean that was that was my point of reference back then not like yeah I mastered that I can tell you what it means in Hebrew I didn't have that background okay but now I'm starting to study the Bible little by little but I'm still brand-new and I'm talking to my father over dinner and I said you know one of my friends told me that there's this prophecy it's like 700 years before Jesus and this describes his suffering he says where is it I want to see it my dad was a brilliant man Supreme Court New York Supreme Court lawyer all of that and and so I went to get my Bible and it was you know just King James Bible didn't even have a concordance in the back it was it was or you know a detailed concordance and if study helps it was just just a Bible and I didn't know it well at all at that point but I just kind of open up and look and next thing I'm in Isaiah 53 I'm I said I said I think this is it so he starts reading it and he was a very mild-mannered guy he literally got red in the face and angry and actually exclaimed the words Jesus Christ but meant in a negative way that's how it would have been used Jewish home and you know I my dad died in 77 I revere and honor my father I don't say that to disparage him but simply to say when he first saw it it was it got him angry he got him angry Sid Roth he gets saved his father doesn't believe this is this is in our Hebrew Bible he goes and gets a rabbi from the Bible the rabbi signs his name and English Bible signs his name in the front Sid goes home gives it to his dad to read as if somebody changed somebody changed a movie you start reading it's like no no not a New Testament oh yeah that's right I'm reading from the Old Testament so again from the Jewish perspective the Jewish people's suffering for the for the sins of the world suffering an exile you know the the religious views who died in the Holocaust the religious Jews who've gone into exile along with the sitting people etc that somehow their prayers for the nation sustain the nation and bring healing to the nation at the end of the age the whole world will recognize Israel was the servant of the Lord it's just not what the text says and and of course we we have our strong strong arguments for this now that being said I was dealing with a counter missionary rabbi one time learn a guy very very devout very prayerful and he said I've read Isaiah 53 over and over and I can't see how you can say refers to Jesus it's just the way he was raised reading it differently his whole life he couldn't see all right so you know we've got this thing right where the name of Jesus is spelled out through the books of the Bible right and if he got close enough to it you might not even see actual letters right yeah you wouldn't see the j esus but once you see it it's like how could anybody not see it and that's often how it is so as much as these rabbis will have great insight into other scriptures and be able to argue back and forth and some can even argue our position there's still you know they say I'm reading it blindly they would say there's but you know that I'm reading it through the colored glasses of my Christian tradition but I would say you know this is available over their eyes when it comes to these prophecies all right Psalm 110 I mentioned is the most quoted prophecy in the New Testament the most quoted passage from the old now just a little tidbit for you out of the five books of Moses which of the five is most often quoted in the New Testament Deuteronomy great you nailed it I knew you're gonna get it within five guesses but you gotta earn the reward okay in early rabbinic literature Talmud Midrash early rabbinic literature which of the five books of Moses is the most quoted in early rabbinic literature take a guess Deuteronomy same thing and the Dead Sea Scrolls passages that are being quoted from the five books of Moses which are most often quoted Deuteronomy Jesus resisting Satan in in the wilderness Matthew for loop for where does he quote from three times Deuteronomy okay out of the prophetic books that are quoted in the New Testament in early rabbinic literature in the Dead Sea Scrolls which prophetic book is quoted to most of all the prophetic books Isiah correct and among the other writings the the other books and the poetic and wisdom literature which is most often quoted in the New Testament early rabbinic literature in Dead Sea Scrolls Psalms so Deuteronomy out of the five books I say out of the prophets and psalms out of the rest quoted the most in all of these ancient Jewish writings New Testament rabbinic literature and Dead Sea Scrolls just for your information and the reason I shared that with you is because I said to myself it's possible if I don't tell you that that you will die without knowing that so I decided to share that so it's attributed to David the most natural reading is that he wrote it it's possible it was written for him a court poet wrote it for him could mean that a psalm for David or some in the davidic collection but the most natural reading is that he wrote it the dahveed and Hebrew so by David but to say of David that's that's a good translation a psalm the Lord so Yahweh said to my lord my man sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet now if a court poet wrote it for David then he's saying the Lord said to me right concerning my master David sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet in other words that God told his court poet write this about your master David that he's gonna be raised up in City College right hand until his enemies become a footstool for his feet the Lord will extend your mighty scepter from Zion so is this David writing about the Messiah or a court poet writing about David you will rule in the midst of your enemies your troops will be willing on your day of battle arrayed in holy majesty from the womb of the dawn you will receive the doer of your youth is that a prophecy of Resurrection debate it could be the Lord is sworn and will not change his mind you are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek now if this is a court poet writing in about David it's telling us that David is a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek if it's David writing it David saying the Messiah is a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek the Lord is at your right hand he will crush Kings on the day of his wrath he will judge the nation's heaping up the dead and crushing rulers of the whole earth he will drink from a brook beside the way therefore he will lift up his head is that a reference to resurrection lifting up the head that is also debated the most important parts of the psalm of the first verse in the fourth the first saying the Lord said to my lord Yahweh God said to my lord sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet there's an old Jewish tradition that says this Psalm was included in the Psalms of David but it wasn't written by David it wasn't written by a court poet of David it was written by Abraham's servant what according to this Jewish tradition was written by Abraham's servant and it mentions Melchizedek because Abraham encounters Melchizedek in Genesis the fourteenth chapter right Melchizedek Melchizedek encounters them there and that's why it mentions priesthood and all of this because Levi just descends from Abraham really that's a completely supportable tradition and there's even some rabbinic commentators say then why does it mention Zion because Zion doesn't have any meaning until centuries later with David so you may hear that that it goes back to Abraham sermon but forget it dismiss it there's zero validity to it zero possibility of it so it's either a court poet writing this about David or David writing about this Messiah the overall effect remains the same and I'll explain in a moment when was David ever exalted to the right hand of God when the scripture ever described but it doesn't does anything happen that scripture records after his death no did he metaphorically or spiritually sit at God's right hand until all of his enemies became a foot still for his feet no he he did have a certain minor Empire in the ancient world that extended but no he he was not a world ruler in any way spoken of here or spoken of say in Psalm 2 so if it was a court poet speak speaking about David it only finds its realization through the greater David the Messiah it's like with many prophecies they're spoken about an earthly king that earthly king falls short they find the realization of the Messiah like David's prayers for Solomon in Psalm 72 Solomon doesn't do it Messiah this so he prays it for his son but it's his greater son that fulfills it so there's nowhere that we see David sitting at the right hand of God exalted to that position and by the way in some Jewish tradition Abraham sits at God's left hand and the Messiah God's right hand so in another way it doesn't work for Abraham so God will now extend his rule and then verse 4 he'll be a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek if it's David speaking about the Messiah it's a direct prophecy that the Messiah will be a priestly King like Melchizedek which is a great significance because his king he rules in reign as priest he suffers for our sins as priests he intercedes as priests he deals with human guilt right and his king he rules and reigns that's why it's such a significant passage he's a priestly King so if it's a prophecy about David David is the prototype of the Messiah and David functions as a priestly King if it is a prophecy by David about the Messiah either way it's the same end result the Messiah will be a priestly King and he will be exalted to the right hand of God where he will sit and rule and reign until his enemies become a footstool for his feet obviously Jesus rose from the dead and David did not obviously Jesus ascended to heaven and David did not obviously Jesus fulfilled this role of being a priestly King far beyond anything that David did hence the importance of the somme both of the resurrection of Jesus as this often quoted and then often also in Hebrews the fact that Messiah will be a priestly King that's why we have prophecies not just about him ruling and reigning but also suffering and dying hey real quick let me just mention what's here this weekend so the book that ties in with my teaching today but it's much more than that the real coach of Jesus so it's the number one book I wrote to give to a Christian to show them the Jewish roots of the faith and to give to a Jewish person that's seeking so it's great for those purposes and my friend Orthodox rabbi friend Rabbi Shmuley wrote the book kosher Jesus so God moved on me to write a response in three weeks called the real kosher Jesus so that's that's this I've been asked to speak about the beauty of holiness tonight so this book go and sin no more will will be the book that will really tie in bill bright called it one of those rare life-changing books it's grace based holiness and then tomorrow morning I've been asked to speak on my book that came out in September saving a sick America but I'll bring two different messages so I won't preach the same message twice tomorrow morning but this ties in directly with my message in the morning saving a sick America and with that we have to be added 3:45 I'm a minute late god bless you see you tonight and tomorrow [Applause]

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Length: 79min 16sec (4756 seconds)

Published: Thu Feb 22 2018