Dr David Starkey: Prince Harry 'makes the Kardashians look dignified'

well who better to set Harry straight and give us some insight into the rebellious Prince of what it means for us in this country than the legendary historian Mr David Starkey doctor if we're being formal otherwise known as otherwise known as David okay David well when you're on my show your doctor here at Mark's time you just you just you're just Starkey to me now what have you on my show so much right little pet little pet thank you doctor for sitting there and listening to me banging on uh what have you made of it all this week as we come towards the end of the week we've learned so much about him things we never wanted to know that's true you were saying he was a journalist either think I've got a new name for him go on deep throat he has become you might have to clarify that well it's a famous person who leaked um and he has become it's not this is not journalism he is The Insider who betrays once again he's become the mirror image the black to the white of his late grandmother the queen with her permanent silence the occasional meaningful word you know and how nice it is that the Scots haven't gone Independence the little per suddenly now you have a permanent stream of not very reliable inside of Gossip yeah um so what will they open we saw them today David we saw the Royals out and about today as I said they were all waving nicely and probably muttering under their breath well they have made a decision already about what happens at the coronation do you think in terms of their their I think that I think the king will be torn the king is torn he claims still and after all Harry is his child Harry was once a lovable boy yeah uh he tried desperately hard you know under terrible circumstances to be a good father we know about the emotional constipation but then look at how he was greeted when he hadn't seen his mother for six months you know yeah effectively a handshake um but what the king will be torn with is the desperate wish that he should be there that the person who remember is the second adult in line to the throne okay there were three children ahead of him but he should have been there as one of King's two proud strapping young sons who would help their father towards this enormous task ahead of him instead they can't trust him this is the most terrible thing that he's done and you haven't mentioned this it is the Betrayal the constant betrayal of trust and confidence that Constitution is built on nothing but trust isn't it the whole the whole way in which you can manage being a family which at the same time is an institution you have to have a border that has to be a boundary otherwise you do something that the queen said she would never be Harry has become he's not become a journalist he's become the cheapest of cheapest dealers deed list celebs the only thing about the deal is celeb that matters is you know every single disgusting detail of the private lives it makes the Kardashians look dignified I never thought I would be able to utter those words you never thought you would hear them but he really does it's a constant I mean to discuss whether or not you and your brother are circumcised publicly this is this is this is It's self-muckraking he is putting the contents not somebody of his Waste Paper basket but if his bathroom bin in the public eye um how you when when I did the interview with Nigel on this and we talked about what happens when you become a devotee he's he it's a behavior again of of a person who's undergone a kind of religious conversion um there's even a phrase for it in the Bible it's speaking in tongues this kind of uncontrolled flow but it's an uncontrolled flow that destroys him wouldn't he would have wished it to destroy the institution but instead it's turning back on him what about in America David do you think the Americans I believe that the tide is even turning over there now they've always been very supportive of him well a group has remember Harry corresponds to pretty much Democrat versus Republican Democrats in favor and here it is remainers at least young ones loved Harry and you know Wicked leaders like me and probably you um what's the remainder but now maleva um sorry dear me I'm getting as confused as Harry and email was it was it was it was remainers who loved him um and levers who hated it um so in other words it's exactly the same divide um and in America remember he became a kind of gospel boy he became a front for woke did you not say the prince of woke yeah at the beginning yeah and but even I think the woke a tiring of him because of course the great problem is he reveals just how destructive woke is it revealed woke his scene in Harry as something that's only about destroying it's got no positive values it's also of course that he's so inconsistent about it on the one hand you know lining up the David circus here afterward Hershey's and whatever this wicked racist institution this Empire Mark II in the film uh in the Netflix and then when he's actually questioned about it in detail oh no they weren't racist at all so it's the key he can't hold steady to one single position his religious conversion is not yet complete um is the only thing that is clear is there's a complete disintegration of a personality so you're you're used to looking backwards as a historian but I want you to look forward now into your little crystal ball and predict what will become of him historians shouldn't do that that's the point that's the point at which that's that's the point that's the point at which you become a charlatan right I mean I think what you said is right the the his his Destiny is to become an increasingly diminished figure in California this is a boy who began at Sandhurst standing up straight in uniform looking great he will finish up a shambolic probably rather druggy figure somewhere in California possibly doing tattoos and nipple piercings um we did hear a little bit about his plunger as he called it didn't we maybe we'll he maybe there could be one but you can see but conversations you never think you're gonna have but can't you but can't you can't you can't you see how it could go I can't I mean I said with his mother um you know who in some in some ways Harry has become his mother yeah he's become his mother's worst side I say the peculiarity about Diana who is the daughter with the daughter of an urban Countess the flower of the English shires she behaved as though she'd been born in Orange County she was a sort of natural Californian and this has been fulfilled in Harry and what I think is also interesting is the way the two boys have divided so absolutely extraordinarily so William has become not even his father he's become a kind of masculine version of his grandmother whereas Harry has become the ultimate version of Diana and it the one thing he's not good at unlike Diana he's not yet learned to pose properly for photographs but if you imagine I mean maybe this is the next stage Megan and Harry in front of the Taj Mahal doing something memorable for the front page of the song well I feel like for now we've got a little reprieve from her cariness don't you until the next book and the next series and we don't want a little touch of Harry in the night thank you very much and on that bombshell Dr David Starkey thank you so much for joining me

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Published: Thu Jan 12 2023