Do you rely too much on prophetic words?

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this i've seen this with people that are attracted to prophetic ministry and have actually seen it with some prophetic ministers not ones that last for very long because god will usually end up pulling favor from them because of the error that they get into but it does happen sometimes where we get so caught up in prophetic in the the things that are being said that we spend more time studying prophecies studying prophetic ministry than we do studying scripture we spend more time listening and meditating on a prophetic word that somebody gave than we do actually in prayer and developing a relationship with god so how do we avoid that and and this is so important paul talked about to the corinthian church he was telling them how he was concerned for them that they're super apostles these super ministers that were coming in and doing conferences and things with the corinthian church i'm sure they were conferences they probably didn't call them that but gatherings for the corinthian church that that they would get so caught up in this new thing and this new teacher and the new thing that's going on that they would be taken away from a simple and pure devotion to jesus christ we have to maintain that as primary it has to be the foundation and the goal of everything that we do the writer of hebrews tells us that if we're going to run this race that we've been given well that we have to do it by keeping our eyes fixed on jesus too many times we begin to think of prophetic ministry in the wrong way prophetic ministry is intended to deepen our relationship with jesus and help us respond to jesus it is not intended to be the path that we follow for every decision that we make he is the path that we follow he is the way revelation is not the way revelation is helpful it is a tool that has been given to us but the tool is so that we can know him better the holy spirit the revelation that comes from holy spirit is revelation that is of jesus it says he does not take of his own but what is mine he reveals to you that's in john was it 14 or 15 14 i'm pretty sure that's john 14 where he's talking about how the holy spirit is going to be interacting with us and specifically about revelation and how the holy spirit speaks we can recognize holy spirit because holy spirit exalts jesus holy spirit talks about jesus and when we see jesus when we see the true jesus we're always drawn to the father because the way to the father is through the son no one goes to the father except through me john 14 6 for i am the way the truth and the life jesus christ is the way the truth and the life and and so revelation is intended for that we have to be careful and and keep attention to the importance and the focus that we allow prophetic ministry to have in our lives there there's a reality that there have been people that have been insecure that have ended up in a place of influence and have been given a platform if you will been given a public voice when it comes to the prophetic but because of their insecurity they they over amplify the importance of prophetic ministry because they're trying to prove that they have importance and so there has been something that has been released in different situations now clearly not everybody that's prophetic has done this it's rare but it does happen that that there's been this over amplification and it's like if you're gonna do anything you have to understand you have to listen to the prophet if you haven't heard from the prophets you can't be successful if you haven't heard from the prophet you don't know what's going on if you haven't heard from the prophet you really can't even relate to jesus and we have put a ministry in between us and god and that ministry is never intended to be between us and god there is one mediator between man and god the man christ jesus the only necessary element to connection with god is relationship with jesus christ not prophecy now once we get that firmly set in our minds and we really understand that we we then begin to discern the prophetic voices that we listen to if we are listening to prophetic voices that are over exalting prophecy we have to be careful because that can cause us to begin to believe that be influenced by that we think that we won't be but first corinthians 15 33 says very clearly do not be deceived bad communications spoil useful habits it's talking about it conversations communications relationships they spoil good conduct good morals they they cause us they influence us whether we realize it or not and thinking that we can allow input into our thinking into our hearts into our souls and not be influenced by that is deception it is impossible what you pay attention to you make room for john paul made that phrase famous in the art of hearing god what you pay attention to you make room for what you focus on you make room for if you focus on something you're going to make room for that if your focus is on a communication that is in error you will make room for the error that it carries i always i love to read and i love to understand i love to understand things that i agree with and i love to understand things that i don't agree with and there are seasons when i'm able to do that and when i'm not able to do that there was a a few years ago i had gotten a study bible and it was written by a bunch of liberal theologians and i didn't realize that they were liberal theologians but i started reading through it and they're starting to question whether or not creation actually happened or if it was just a metaphor that's intended to tell us that god is really important because evolution evolution is actually true they started to they started questioning the authenticity of scripture even while they're talking about scripture i i just i couldn't listen to it because one my heart was so offended i needed some more healing so that i could hear somebody's viewpoint without being offended at the viewpoint i didn't have somebody in front of me and i wasn't responsible to change them i was trying to grow and there's you know you can you can take meat out of a situation you can pick around the bones the phrase from john wimber eat the meat spit out the bones so you can you can get teaching like that and you can get good things even out of bad teaching even out of ones that that have mixture or that's wrong in some areas you can still find good stuff but you've got to figure out whether or not you're able to see it clearly and when you allow yourself to do that so in that season i couldn't let myself finish reading that but in a different season i did read it because i needed to learn the things that were there and seeing how they thought it helped me to understand the deception that was there so that as i'm teaching truth i'm able to present it in such a way that it actually will begin to undermine the deception that would cause someone to believe that way but i had to be in the right place in the right season and i needed to make sure that that wasn't the only input that that wasn't my focus that i was getting good healthy input and so i spent a season where i was really studying solid theologians and understanding the way that they thought and then i took those things that i read and i took them back to scripture i took them back to to other teachers and i was able to discern that out so there's a place where you're going to listen to things that maybe are not the healthiest but when you do so make sure that you're in a healthy place and make sure that you have much more input that is very healthy that's going to help you to not bring in that influence because what you focus on you make room for and if you allow that to be a focus it begins to influence everything you've probably noticed how the brain works when you begin to make something a priority in your life you start to see it everywhere i give you so many different examples of this back before i knew the lord when i was still partying i was absolutely convinced that everybody did drugs the people that said that they didn't do drugs they were lying because they didn't want to share i was absolutely consent convinced because everybody that i knew did drugs and that's all i thought about i didn't even have a grid for somebody having a different kind of life i was so caught up in that mindset now clearly i had a stronghold i had some demonic um oppression that was connected to that and there were a lot of issues there and that's an extreme example but how many people think that because of most of their interactions are with conservative people that most people are conservative and very few are liberal or the other way around because they're listening to all these liberals they start to think that everybody's liberal and there's very few that are actually conservative when who knows what the actual numbers are it seems from from what it looks like it's pretty split in the united states we have that thought how many people that begin to focus on the prophetic start thinking that most people are like that and yet not everybody is see when you focus on something you start to see the world through that thing it's the way the brain works we call it the reticular activating system now we don't call it scientists have called it it's a particular part of the brain that filters out stimulus and tells us what to pay attention to and what not to pay attention to what to ignore and what to engage with so the reticular activating system is that part of the brain that takes every bit of stimulus that comes through our brain which you have about 3 billion or 3 trillion i always forget if it's billion or trillion it's a whole bunch of bytes of information that is coming in every second you you have all of the different things that you're seeing just just thinking about how many pixels it would take to give the the definition of vision that you have for what you're seeing right now not just on the screen obviously that that's very limited in this pixels but around you in in the the setting that you're in whether you're in the car whether you're in your home or whatever that might be the sounds that are going on the the hum of the lights the hum of electricity the the the air conditioner that may or may not be going depending on where you're at and if you're in the southern hemisphere it might be the heater by now that is going on though all of those different stimulus they they get filtered through because not everything do we need to pay attention to just just take the sense of smell because this is probably the most poignant example of this you come into a room and it's new and you smell what's going on and maybe it is not the most uh appealing smell or maybe it is and you're smelling it but 15 minutes later you're not really smelling it anymore it's not that the smell is gone you leave and you come back it's funny when i travel and i'm away from my home i think that my home doesn't have any smell but when i come back home our home has a very specific smell as the oils that that that my wife loves to have going into the air it has the food that we cook it has it still has a little bit of a new home smell because it's three or four years old all the different furniture all the different smells that are there but they're so common to me because i'm used to it i don't even smell them anymore but when i get away from them i start smelling them when you over stimulate and not in a negative way but when you put enough attention on something it becomes normal and you don't realize how much of that is influencing the way that you see in the way that you don't see when all that you're paying attention to is prophetic voices especially certain prophetic voices it begins to filter the way that you see things we need the prophetic god gave it as a gift to the church because it is intended to be a blessing and it's intended for the church to use it as a blessing to the world it's intended to be one of the tools that we use to fulfill the commission that we have been given that of making disciples everywhere that we go teaching them to do everything that jesus taught us to do loving god loving others healing the sick proclaiming the gospel living out the nature of christ that he put within us we teach others to do these things and the prophetic is intended as a tool to advance the kingdom of god in whatever circumstance we find ourselves in but when the prophetic becomes an end of itself and no longer is a way of connecting with god and is not just about building relationship deepening relationship and fulfilling the commission that we've been given it becomes unhealthy and we have to be careful of that because when we allow something to become unhealthy when it gets too much attention it's on its way to becoming an idol and god has this habit it's like he really loves smashing idols he enjoys demolishing idols and he has committed himself to destroying every idol because he knows that he is the only source that can actually fulfill and whenever we look to anything other than him it's killing us whether it be slowly or quickly it is killing us even good things as soon as they're disconnected from relationship and if prophetic becomes an idol god will make sure that that idol gets torn down in our eyes we will be disappointed god will make sure that prophetic people get in accurate revelation so that we start to question so that we actually have to go back to god and figure out what god is saying he he will make sure that prophetic people that their weaknesses are revealed so that we stop having such a reliance on the vessel that god is using and have more of a reliance on god himself he will destroy that idol so that we can come back to him and every time an idol is destroyed it's an invitation to come back to god we have to love the prophetic god says in scripture pursue love and earnestly desire spiritual gifts especially that you may prophesy we're commanded to pursue spiritual gifts we are commanded to lust after to covet to desire prophetic gifting like that's scriptural we have to if we're going to be biblical trying to not do it is not being biblical but it must stay in context and as you go through because that's first corinthians chapter 14 verse 1 and you go through first corinthians 12 13 and 14 that is put within a context of understanding how the prophetic is intended to bring us to god and advance his kingdom and that's how we recognize whether it's good or whether it's not good we did a teaching that we have available on dvd i think you can download the videos or definitely the mp3s of it called intro to prophecy and i go in depth in first corinthians 12 13 and 14 and all the concepts that's there and it's really a teaching about discernment and if you've found maybe an unhealthy fascination with the prophetic i would highly encourage you to get that teaching listen to that teaching go through it i don't talk about the negative aspects i'm just teaching the biblical principles of how to move forward and allow the prophetic to have the the place that it's intended to have so that it draws us closer to god so that we fulfill the greatest commandment jesus came jesus had someone come up to him and it's like teacher what's the greatest what's the most important commandment love the lord your god with all your heart all your mind all your soul all your strength and the second is just like it love your neighbor as yourself on these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets everything that god has revealed is from this and to this love god love your neighbor see if that is the goal then the prophetic is a way it's because we love god we're pursuing his voice we're not pursuing secret information to get secret information we're pursuing god's voice because in his voice we find his heart and we're desperate to know his heart we love him we long for him he's done so much for us he saved us he set us free and he's made that available to everybody if that's not what you can say you can say it now just ask him lord save me lord set me free i want to know your voice i want to hear you and he will come he'll speak to you he's given us so much and so we pursue him his heart has been exposed before mankind on the cross he's made evident how much he cares and he's invited us to pursue him and the prophetic is a way to pursue his heart and it's a way that we can love people well not not as a tool that we get to use to beat people up and make them feel bad and recognize how much god is angry at them that's not the point of the prophetic the point of the prophetic is to call people to repentance so that they can have life to call people back to his heart back to that revelation that jesus bled and died for sinners while we were still enemies christ died for us he didn't wait for us to be friends he didn't wait for us to get it right and we get to tell other people and the prophetic is intended to have that message god crying out through us be reconciled to god this this is the call of the prophetic this is the root of the prophetic and this is the only way that the prophetic stays healthy and if we hold on to that as primary importance then when we hear these prophetic words we hear our father we're talking to our father about what's being communicated and it develops that relationship and it becomes something that draws us closer to him instead of something that gets us distracted from the simplicity of devotion to jesus christ that is what the prophetic is intended for we desperately need that so can you rely too much on prophetic words you can the only way to recognize is to recognize where you're at in your relationship with god do you go and listen to a prophetic word before you go and listen to god yourself that's key it's about relationship yay i'm looking at some of these comments god deliver me in my unhealthy relationship with the prophetic yes let's just let's just pray that over everybody that's listening right now father i thank you that you've given us this gift to be able to hear your voice you long to speak to us long more than we long to hear you you want us to know you we you want us to pursue you you've done everything to give us the opportunity you chose the time that we lived in the exact place that we live so that we would seek for you and somehow find you it's always been your plan to draw us to yourself and lord we thank you that you've given us this gift this beautiful gift of hearing from you as a way to draw us to yourself father i'm asking that our desire for the prophetic would be anchored in our desire for you to know your heart to know your mind to know your will to follow after you to love you above all else in any place where our focus on the prophetic has become unhealthy any place where where it has been tilted because of bad communications where it's gone off track in any way lord i ask that you bring healing that you would bring freedom and that you would purify our heart for the prophetic lord i thank you that you're calling a people to hear your voice and to present your voice to a broken dying world that's desperate for hope and you have called us to be ones that restore that hope to tell people be reconciled to god he's made a way he who knew no sin has become sin for us that we might become the righteousness of god while we were still enemies he died for us he made a way in that message the testimony of jesus which is the spirit of prophecy that message is the greatest message and it's the the anchor of our hearts lord let that be so in every way and lord in any way where we have allowed the prophetic to be an idol in our lives lord would you break that idol and bring us back to you and you alone you are our treasure you are our great reward you are what we seek we want you we want to know you when we want to make you known cause this to happen in the name of jesus guys thanks so much i want to let you know over the next uh little bit we're going to start doing something fun on our youtube lives um periodically i'm going to have a friend join me for these lives and we'll be doing a conversation uh live together so probably zoom them in or use some type of a of a way of video conferencing and make it available so that you guys can listen in on the conversation and we're gonna start talking about healthy prophetic ministry mature prophetic ministry and and really developing a a focus on what is healthy when it comes to the prophetic and so it's going to be a lot of fun you're going to hear a lot of great stories you're going to meet a lot of really cool people and i'm i'm looking forward to you guys being a part of that if you are in the dallas fort worth area saturday night we have bonnie shavda with us if you have not heard bonnie shavda you look her up on youtube i'm sure you'll find her she is amazing she is a mother and she is a general in the body of christ and we are we're just excited i love bonnie she she is a dear friend of mine personally she's going to be with us on saturday night we're going to stream it right here on youtube so if you're on our youtube channel make sure that you subscribe if you're watching on facebook go over to youtube make sure that you subscribe ask for notifications and youtube will let you know anytime that we go live that's going to be going on we're going to worship we're going to get into the presence of god we're going to let bonnie go wherever she wants to go and she's going to be hanging out with us on sunday morning for our healing house service the the church that we started right here in lewisville texas so if you want to join in for that that is also streamed live as well love you guys god bless you and we will see you next time

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Published: Wed Apr 07 2021