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discount code so head over to patreon if you want that but I'll be making a patreon account soon for her feet it's going to be great just kidding um but other than that we are ready to jump into this theme today I'm excited for this one I'm really excited these are some of the juicy juicier stories I think I've read in a while just kind of like out there chaotic um I wanted to call this like deliberately obtuse question mark Cuz like some of them you're like are they really being that obtuse like they're being that annoyingly insensitive it's just such a funny word I love the word obtuse okay so you're so obtuse it's actually such a burn but I was looking at the definition and are you referring to it more as on the sensitivity side of the definition or the stupidity side of the definition to be determined okay I would love the listeners to chime in and some of the stories are question mark too it's like are wait are they that stupid or like are they gaslighting like what's going on here so we'll see okay also this keeps hitting me in the head wait I want to look at see what the definition was I looked at it like really I have it on my first tab so upus annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand literally in the sentence he wondered if the doctor was being deliberately obtuse mhm so that's the theme today perfect deliberately obtuse when you type it in is obtuse an insult yes yeah okay cool well I'm excited okay let's dive in let's do [Music] it are you ready to start this episode off a little fiery yes okay so this first one is titled am I the [ __ ] for not letting my husband buy a house for his ex and kids hm his ex and kids hate me and I'm not fond of them either they all think I'm the reason they can't get back together even though she's the one who cheated and I didn't meet him until he was in the middle of their divorce negotiations his kids are rude to me and when I was pregnant with our first child they told me I should hurry and get an abortion before it's too late anyways during the divorce negotiations my husband voluntarily gave up the paid off house so that his kids wouldn't have to move schools he he agreed to pay child support beyond what the courts would have imposed and his alimony amount is more than her salary in return she agreed to not sell the house or move until the youngest is 18 something happened and she sold the house and moved into an apartment this past weekend he came and asked me if I would object to him buying her another house because she's missing out on time with the kids they refused to stay in her cramped apartment I said no and that she needs to live with the consequences from her bad decisions he begged but I stood my ground I reminded him that we have a child together and another on the way any money he spends on his ex is taken away from their future he argued that his kids need a home and I countered that they each have their own rooms in our house even though I can't stand them I can be an adult and tolerate them if it means he doesn't buy his ex a house he said it'll be in our names but I countered that interest rates are high and the housing market in our area area is crashing so we'll lose money if we buy a house now which in turn will affect our children's future his ex reached out to his parents and now they're on my case about making their grandkids homeless it feels like everyone is making me out to be the wicked stepmother and I'm the crazy one I can't be the only one who thinks it's crazy for a husband to buy his ex-wife a house wow well I don't blame her for being pissed I um I would be I would not be happy with that proposal he already gave her a house and she decided to sell it I what it's like okay I hate this situation because the the fact is is that like these kids don't get along with their stepparent and the stepparent doesn't get along with the kid so she's like like I can tolerate them and they can live in this house right however that doesn't sound like a happy home for them you know like being like living full-time with somebody who tolerates them so that's where I'm having a hard time with this because I absolutely would be pissed if I was hurt and I I also wouldn't like them either I mean they told her to get an abortion like what the [ __ ] um everyone sucks in this one for me everyone sucks yeah but there are some people that are a little more obtuse than others yeah yeah I just like I don't how do you move forward with this so the kids they don't even have room in their mom's apartment or they're just cramped I think they're just cramped I mean there's she just wants them to like grow up full-time in a house kind of thing yeah there are um there is like a kind of like a little update good morning I saw several common questions so I'll answer them here one no one is sure why she had to sell the house my husband and her argued for weeks after it was already done I've heard several reasons but I didn't include them because I don't know which is the accurate one all we know for sure is that she doesn't have much left after the sale again crazy okay did she G like did she yeah like she did she gamble it all away like what did what what's going on two the house was fully paid off with no leans that's what I was going to ask he transferred full ownership to her so she was solely responsible for the taxes and maintenance yeah there's just no chance his kids have been living with us for a month and we've settled into a silent routine I don't try to Mother them and they ignore me we provide them with the same food we eat and whatever else they need my husband parents them the lowend price of a house in our area and within their schools is about 300,000 right now I can deal with the situation until they're all 18 and out of the house if it means we're not spending at least 300,000 there's no mention of how old these kids are though like is 18 10 years or is that too like yeah well it sounds like the mom given this information doesn't sound very responsible so it actually might be better that the dad is parenting them more often I mean as much as I I like the idea that the dad is so wanting his children to just be in a happy like and comforting home that's the part that I do like but it is absolutely insane to buy this person another home when they just when they had that home you said it was all paid off and then she sells it and that's against the agreement she's already you know that he doesn't owe her anything else and it sucks because it's like she's attached to the children and he wants to provide for the children but it's like then they should just live with you most of the time and there is another point that they do live with them fulltime right now and so he's not paying child support since they are and she's not arguing about that aka the mom m he can't sue her for the house or money she doesn't have so let's just say the house was 300K it was paid off where did 300K go yeah and is she just hiding that money but like I think it's it's really frustrating when like she had like this Golden Goose right she had a house that was paid off just responsible for taxes and maintenance which can add up however if she's not you know spending any money on a mortgage or things like that that should be pretty doable if she budgets so or even if it was too big of a house for her to maintain sell the house but buy a lesser one with the money yeah I think bottom line is that he should not buy her a house and op has a right to be angry um and I just I hope that the kids are happy and feel comfortable in the home that they're in and I think that's pretty much all you can do yeah I would be really mad if this were me I I think like not the [ __ ] and I'm also kind of like well what happens if you two get divorced is it going to buy you a house yeah for you and his kids yeah cuz then you'd be an ex too so maybe that's the solution here I just don't get it I'm just this is crazy yeah I would I would not be happy with my husband at all and that's and it's so true too cuz even when I'm dating somebody like in my head I start thinking I kind of future trip and I'm just like wait they're just blowing money on XYZ I'm like what if one day when we're married and we have kids would they blow their money like this too like I future trip like that in my head just like randomly even when I'm dating somebody so I think that if yeah to be in a marriage and then have that it's just like well we we have a kid on the way like that needs to be your focus right now and they already have one so she'll have two kids with him too right like instead of I mean the kids right now that we have like they have a happy home to come to I hope I mean I hope op is not mean to them it sounds like she's not but like um it sounds like she just like recognizes there's not a mutual liking and they're just kind of like you do your thing I'll do mine right but yeah that does suck like kids still pick up on that too yeah but um top comment not the [ __ ] so the ex had a fully paid off house a job in alimony which was more than her salary but she still sold her house and now wants another one fully paid up too I assume what happened to the money she got from selling the house why is it your fault when she's the one who sold the house also your step kids are not homeless they have two houses they just don't like either one of them yeah next comment what really worries me is that the husband is so focused on a house for his kids that he's lost sight that his ex may not be a suitable person to raise these kids and that's I think that's what I was thinking when I was talking it through she like I mean she doesn't sound very responsible X's actions are definitely suspicious I can't even imagine giving up a fully paid house in the current economic situation and according to op not much money left over yeah the [ __ ] uh next comment makes you really wonder what she was spending it on literally the next comment the money went somewhere also like how are these other people made of so much money he's buying houses like it's a cup of coffee you get a house and you get a house and you get a house or is he you know maybe that's part of it if this if this guy is like a multi multi multi-millionaire whatever and so he's like come on it's not that much skin off of my back like that's the same right I actually didn't like that phrase um or is it ass skin off my ass I don't know but I don't like either of those that's not a good image um but to find something different but um um yeah if he if he were to be doing sorry I lost my train of thought like if he was a big millionaire yeah if he was a big millionaire and it would meant nothing to him then I could see where he would be like come on it's it doesn't mean a lot to me and I know that it mean it mean a lot to my kids but the fact that she's like no you have to think about the future of our children that are toddlers SL not even born yet instead of giving more to your ex which again it would be nice if that it's still in their name but like she said she because of whatever state they were in the economy like she's like we would lose money on it so just dumb decisions all around just dumb craziness um yeah I I think everyone sucks here in general but like no you're not the [ __ ] for like not letting your husband buys x a house I would not be happy with that at all there's no other comments from op just just like kind of that little update we read so moving along moving along okay you ready yeah okay um people might have seen this you might have even seen this but it was something that my boyfriend sent to me and I just felt like it was really fitting for the theme um but this is from Reddit but it is on the fantasy football advice Reddit which is oh God not our usual yes interesting um but the title is guy in my league is offering polard for CMC and I get to bang his wife one time oh my God I mean Christian mcaffrey that's who I assume it's about is a pretty good one to pick up but does the wife agree to this I guess so oh God okay let's get in it's a pretty short one that's what I was telling you but I was like I just need to share this because it was too funny that Brian just sent this to me and then this theme so guy in my league is 35 and desperate to turn his team around and needs more consistency with RB he sent me a text saying he wants CMC but there's not really anyone on his team I want I am currently 71 so I don't need to make any changes he said I could bang his wife one time if I accept the trade and it goes through no honestly it's pretty tempting since she has huge tits and I've always fantasized about her oh my god dude is it worth throwing my chances to win the ship out the window for a chance to bang his wife question mark yeah because he's three and five he's he's messed anyways he's not going to win the league there's no chance there's no come you're saying it's worth it he should have sex with his wife I'm saying like there's no chance the dude's going to come back anyways but like he might need if I'm assuming it's Christian mcaffrey I think so that's what I think CMC is um I'm big into fantasy my team sucks this year I think I'm three and five or I'm like four and I don't even know what I what I am but like dude this this can't be like why are guys so weird people are just and the comments too I was like oh maybe it'll be you know no it's let's cuz it's boys these are boys yeah I know top comment bang first then back out of the deal just terrible and then bang wife then get League to veto they're all just I want the wife to find all so bad I wonder if she agreed to it like I wonder if it was an open relationship because I don't understand how he could make he can't make that bet on like on her behalf unless she's like if he tries he might do it in reverse you know and be like oh my God he really wants to sleep with you I think it'd be really fun like you've you've always wanted to play around right you know like if it's something like that or if they do have a very flexible relationship and it's like hey babe I really need help with my fantasy and you've kind of always thought John is hot like would you be okay having sex with John so I get Christian McCaffrey I can't imagine being in a relationship like that but if it works for people then I think he's marrying one of the CBO sisters didn't you see her like her engagement party or her um bachelorette party he like sent her fireworks they were all like dressed up and like someone from the hotel walked up and was like here hit the button and she hits the button and fireworks goes off I saw the proposal but other than that I don't really keep up too much I just it's my Tik Tok algorithm I get a lot of like actually follow her on Instagram which is why I saw the post okay and you have another one um yes yeah sorry none of these com I was trying to look for one comment that like had some type of legitim yeah no they're just all [ __ ] stupid sorry they're all just obuse you can say [ __ ] stupid I'm trying to not as much because I realize that I use swear words so much to like as exasperation you know and so I don't even use them that much to be angry in a fight you know whatever it's usually just to be like are you [ __ ] me and I'm like I need to just think of different words because it's just are you pulling my leg Yeah are you pulling my leg Morgan I'm going to start doing that um okay next one let's see one of this week's Partners is Athena Club I really hated shaving before using Athena Club razors I felt like I always got really bad ingrown hairs I looked like a cat attacked me with how many Cuts I got it just was never really worth it but now with Athena Club I actually want to and I'm sure Justin appreciates it too because he's not getting prickly legs put all over him Athena Club has really stepped up the game with shaving and it makes 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it there's that chance okay let's see what you think am I the [ __ ] for choosing my boyfriend over my family's tradition I 29 female and my boyfriend 41 male have been together for almost 3 months my family doesn't like him due to his history with my sister 35 but that was years ago and we both have moved on their hatred for him skyrocketed when he tried to get full custody of his child we have a trip that we do every here when we go to New York City I was invited but was under instruction not to bring my boyfriend I thought this was unfair since both his girlfriend and his child would be there they said it's to avoid drama but he went the last two Christmases despite already being divorc to my sister What's Happening Here I know um okay does that child he have is that shared with the sister too God I think so yes my sister is is already engaged to a great man 40 so she's clearly over it I told them if he's not allowed to come I won't and they said that they'll give my ticket to my sister's future stepdaughter 19 female I yeah great solution I blocked them on everything I love my family but I don't think I should put them over my boyfriend that you've been dating for 3 months What the fu that's your sister's ex-husband is what I think is what she's saying this girl so stupid she also well she said edit I try to fix my grammar um I don't speak English while I'm from Spain so maybe I think maybe like the girlfriend part like was like I'm his girlfriend I'll be there I'm not I don't know but like it just kept on twisting and turning to it's like okay wait so he he had history with my sister they were married they were married they have a kid together they have a kid together he was at the last two Christmases because he was probably there for his kid sweetie yeah and she's been dating him for 3 months and now she's saying I shouldn't put my family before my boyfriend just for this tradition I'm had a complete L for words she is deliberately obtuse holy smokes three months I I know some people like when you know you know and I know there's some people that literally are like oh I met my partner and like 11 days later we got married but then I'm like I literally didn't even know if I liked Justin after 3 months so for me I just find this so crazy that you're willing to throw your entire relationship with your family away over a guy that was married to your sister are there no other people out there you had to go so strange to that one I know it's what is it well I think the part for me that really gets me too is that I know sometimes love happens in really odd ways that are unexpected and non-traditional how are you not aware that your family wouldn't want him to be there it's weird that you're dating him now it's your sister what do you mean why are you confused like my family was so mean I blocked them on everything like you just Dropped a Bomb that you're now dating your sister's ex-husband baby daddy and you want him to come to the holidays and just pretend like everything's normal like how are you how are you confused that's my concern there's definitely some screws loose here um it's very interesting and I think the comment too that kind of threw me off it's like oh she's engaged to a really great guy so like clearly she's over it just because she's moving on and like starting a new relationship and like a new chapter of her life doesn't mean that's a green light to go sleep with her ex-husband and father of her child yeah that's weird well it's not to yeah oh my God the top comment too is it's funny you're the [ __ ] you've been with a guy for 3 months and then comment right underneath there to be fair she's known him years he used to be her brother-in-law o I know any comments from op I know this is old and the account could have been deleted but I'm so curious I'm not seeing it oh but yeah the fact that he's trying to get full custody too did you hear that part no their hatred for him skyrocketed when he tried to get full custody of his child yeah no [ __ ] like why are they going to be oh my God yay you're trying to take our granddaughter away from her mom yay oh my God we love you and now I'm going to date your sister these two deserve each other they are so delusionally stupid weird yes they're so so obtuse do you want to see I I couldn't see if the op responded a lot of comments oh my God it's just never ending it's a big post like the top comment had like what like 26,000 yeah well and there's like an original post that is titled I'm dating my sister's ex and that was on relationship advice and flew like super under the radar there's only 34 up votes on it okay um I 29 female and my half sister Alicia have never gotone along she's pretty jealous of me because her mom and our dad divorced and my parents are happily married she began dating Kyle male 41 during her sophomore year of college Kyle is a great guy and I don't think she appreciates him after she gave birth to their child she got really [ __ ] and needy to the point where Kyle hated coming home he began having an affair with his assistant female 22 after she found out that they divorced that was 2 years ago I've maintained a relationship with Kyle because I'm helping him with his custody battle I'm in law school oh no and one night we both got really drunk and slept together at first we thought it was a drunken mistake but we soon realized we had feelings for each other we began dating and after a month we told Alicia and she walked out of the room without a word but she's clearly fine cuz she's with another guy so like she's clearly fine that's just so annoying that she said that like you don't no the next day I got a text from Alicia's Mom that I'm an awful person and should be ashamed I replied that Kyle is single and Alicia has already moved on and is happy in another relationship my dad said I'm wrong and I've been Uninvited to Thanksgiving I don't understand the big deal they both have moved on and she treated him terribly he also cheated on her with an assistant because he hated coming home probably because his wife needed help with their new baby baby and he didn't want to step up honestly so wait so this was the same person telling it in a different more elaborate way and a different was the first post and then came the post you read okay she essentially like there's comment after comment was your boyfriend who told you these things op I was there for all of these things when it's your sister's ex-husband it's bad no matter the age you don't act like an almost 30-year-old so the age Gap seems even bigger the age difference loone is creepy op stop infantilizing grown women op said that yeah cuz their age Gap um is 12 years there's another post after it's titled logging off I ask whether I should go on a trip not for advice on my relationship I have no sympathy for my sister she's an abusive and toxic person who's tormented me since I was born when I was 10 and she was 16 she made up lies that my mom was a [ __ ] who l lured Our Father away from her mom again she was the one who cheated and I was bullied relentlessly when I was 18 at my graduation she pretended that she had an emergency so that my father missed most of my graduation wow she's physically assaulted me multiple times when her child was born she became an even worse person I didn't mention my sister's abuse because I wasn't looking for validation for my relationship I just wanted to know about the trip now I'm getting death threats because of this you guys are all awful people who use any to harass everyone holy [ __ ] but like why do you don't go on the trip then yeah that's that's why like it doesn't even why is it coming out now it's so convenient like oh man this was a good obtuse one though right this person is really goofy this person is pulling my leg I I really don't have a lot of words I'm just kind of confused how she's wow okay moving along you don't like my comedic call back yeah you 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as she listens to the podcast throwaway and fake names my sister's husband won't leave me alone my sister refuses to see reason because she's pregnant me 29 female and my husband 30 male recently got married in early October at a beautiful ceremony my sister Stacy 22 female walked me down the aisle as my father sadly passed of cancer and couldn't Stacy was unhappy in her marriage to Jack 32 male who tried to convince me to let her remarry him during my ceremony I had posted on AA on this account if you want more details from that Stacy came to me a few weeks after my wedding and said she was going to divorce Jack I fully supported her and offered her a room in my house fast forward to her 22nd birthday birthday in me and my husband's backyard during a barbecue she announced she was pregnant me and my husband were dumb struck and after the congratulations and hugs I pulled her inside to my bedroom I asked if she was still on her birth control and she said she was then I asked if she was going to keep the baby and she said yes I asked about her divorce and she said it was a sign to tough things out fast forward to last weekend when Jack texted me I unblocked him to help with the pregnancy he sent me nudes asking me to meet up at a hotel sometime I immediately showed my husband and asked my sister if she could meet up with us tomorrow my husband was enraged and threatened Jack to me at least but I calmed him down I took pictures of what Jack sent and blocked him for the h hundredth time it feels like oh my god when my sister came over we showed her the pictures and she was silent before she burst into tears yelling that that I was a home wrecker and jealous of her child oh my God I tried to calm her down and so did my husband but she stormed out since then Jack has been sending nudes daily using fake numbers emails even Stacy's phone as he knows I won't block her wow I'm at a loss my sister refuses to speak to me her husband Jack is harassing me and my husband is on the verge of becoming a criminal if Jack doesn't stop okay that last one's a joke my husband is a saint what do I do what wow yeah that is what like what is going on here it just it also breaks my heart because this sister I I don't know how lost you are to not see what's right in front of you and it's just like it's such a different type of delusion the deliberately obuse yeah like I I'm also all of this too I'm like I wonder if he found out the Jack guy the the one going off the [ __ ] rails I wonder if he found out she was going to divorce him and I wonder if he started tampering with her birth control yeah that's why when you said that I was like that's interesting that she's still on her birth control yet it happens but like the timing is it's suspect yeah because the fact that they were already wanting to leave each other and or she was at least yeah and then took that as a sign to stay together that is definitely some question I mean this guy is not okay that's not even a question like this man needs help serious help I don't know what op should do like I don't know how she handles that with her sister because if her sister's not willing to calm down and listen and and see it for what it is then I don't really know where she goes from there low contact yeah be pressing charges though yeah I feel like you could press charges for harassment easily oh absolutely with like all of these unsolicited dickpics like no one needs to see that first thing in the morning or last thing in the day like you have to wonder what is what's wrong with that guy too like what what is going on with him that is making him think it's okay to do that it's like when like is it that he's getting off by the fact that he's harassing her like why is he doing that it's so concerning I just this is this story has me speechless he's he's got quite a few screws loose the top comment on this one is I'm fairly certain in most Western countries you can get him arrested for constantly spamming your phone with nudes that has to breach into sexual harassment at some point you should go that route not sure you can do much about your psycho sister which okay A little aggressive I think like she's clearly going through a tough time I can imagine like you're trying to make this marriage work after like finding out you're pregnant and then he starts doing this and if I were in this and Pregnant I I would feel so trapped like you you got to feel trapped and it's like she definitely has options I think her sister would still let her move in but I can imagine like all of these feelings of like you're trapped you want to stay together for the baby you don't want to be a single mom um yada y y yeah it's so tough too because I I think for a lot of people when they're in bad relationships I think that they logically can see and understand that they deserve more but emotionally they can't get themselves there like I think that both can be true you know logically you know that you deserve more but emotionally you just like you don't feel like you do to the point that you're ready to let go um but this is like even more difficult because now it's like not only emotionally is she feels like this is what she deserves this is the partner she deserves to be with but also like she's convincing herself logically that this is that the world is what it's not you know that her sister is a home wrecker that you know everything's going to work out that this was fate that she's having a baby with this guy and now they're not going to get divorce so it's it's like I don't even know where to start with advice on this sister but for op it's like she doesn't really have a besides to go low contact and like if she's if her sister needs something be there for her and I know that she loves her she said she'll never block her sister that's why she's getting messages from the guy from her sister um but yeah I would say like low contact until you can until she kind of and that's so hard to say too because it's her sister and I know she probably wants to help her but I don't really know what she does only have another choice I just went to op's profile to try to find comments from her and found an update ooh okay um there is a little bit of a warning here though like a trigger warning for the update for violence and sexual assault so if that applies or you feel that you can't handle any updates that contain that please skip ahead today has been an absolute Whirlwind but thank God I'm safe so is my husband and our dogs so I met with my husband's friend who works for our local police department and spoke about how to go about the situation he said he can help us get a restraining order and start a paper trail in the middle of our meeting I got a text from Stacy who said she desperately needed me to help her along with a location she wouldn't reply so me and my husband along with his friend drove to the place it was the most sketchy rundown creepy building in the middle of nowhere but I took my pepper spray and went to find Stacy my husband and his friend waited outside in case there was something wrong of course it wasn't Stacy who was waiting for me Jack was there without my sister oh he grabbed me and tried to take off my clothes yeah and he said he was going to rape me like he did my sister years ago what the and the two men were still there too um they're outside oh my God but with me screaming and trying to spray him with pepper spray he let go my husband and his friend ran in and both of them punched Jack and yelled at him to leave we quickly left and I went to the police station to write a statement and then went home to pack up some bags our police friend went to Stacy and Jack's house but they couldn't find her or her car they're starting an investigation however we did check our house cameras a bit ago and Jack was trying to break into our home oh my God we called the police but he wasn't there when they arrived we're currently in a hotel in a different nearby City but still terrified from the situation there are people looking for Jack and Stacy but we don't have any idea where they are our mother also has no idea and Jack's parents aren't in his life so we doubt we're there with them I'm just terrified for Stacy she never told me about any of that nor do I know if it's true I'm unsure if this will be my last update but I will try to all let you know when we find Stacy or if anything else changes drastically my husband also wanted to speak a bit so the rest is on him thank you all for the kindness and support and advice basically the husband goes on to just be like thank you for the support my wife has several issues with her sister one of which she feels the need to be her caretaker her mother was emotionally neglectful favored Stacy and told my wife to take the high road and keep family first um if it wasn't for all of you I don't think she would have had the courage to seek help and Find A Way Forward hopefully Stacy is okay and Jack gets arrested oh my God yeah and we do have people like reporting this one like oh they think you know it could potentially be fake but I will say like there was a Reddit story a long time ago and I I think we read the first part of the story but we never read the updates and it was a story about a guy who found out his wife was cheating and Rit you know encouraged him to leave he deserved better the wife ended up going crazy and murdered all of their kids oh my God and this is you can verify it there's news articles on this now and this was a Reddit post that everyone at this time thought oh it's creative writing oh my God like real [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] like this does happen so I mean it's it's wild and like some listener sent me a stat the other day that like and I can just fact check it right now um they sent me a stat though that homicide is a leading cause of death in pregnant women in the US women in the US are more likely to be murdered during pregnancy or soon after childbirth than to die from the three leading obstetric causes of maternal death wow so that's so horrible just Bonkers absolutely Bonkers and you know looking at op's account too I mean the original post about the wedding that happened five months ago like there's an account with history you know what I mean it's not like they created a fake account and then posted these crazy stories for clicks or Karma right so I don't know what's going on but that's terrifying and you said that one was only from 11 days ago right yeah and so the update is 10 days ago the update was you know the day after um and I'm not seeing any updates about Stacy that's so scary yeah that does not sound like she's in a good spot missing and then the guy goes and tries to rape her sister and has her phone yeah yeah and then the sister's just gone I don't want to say what it sounds like but that just it's it's crazy I literally just saw a Tik Tok today too and it was like um it was all these people like women that had been murdered from their partners and it was all like imagine if we lived in a world where like these people just broke up instead and it was like victim after victim after victim it's just like oh my God like why can't people just get divorced or break up yeah why like [ __ ] weirdos it's crazy I I was actually listening to um attached the audio of the book have you heard of attached oh yeah the book on attachment theories MH um and then they quoted I can't remember exactly how the quote went I was actually listening to on my way over here um but they quoted somebody who was talking about how humans will be only is happy or lack of Happiness on the relationship they decide to put themselves in and what they decide to uh attach their love to so like if you're in a really horrible relationship like you're not going to be a happy person and it's like it kind of it stood out to me because people are always just like oh your happiness lies within like you got to you know it's it's you like individually first and this is true that's true but once you attach like your deep love for someone then your happiness is also attached to that person and so when that person treats you really poorly and if somebody's in a very abusive relationship then it's like it can completely alter the character of that person yeah yeah I and we we do know how hard abusive relationships can be to leave I know we've talked about this before but like it on average takes a person's seven attempts yeah so now knowing what we know about the sister mhm like I didn't know this update existed before we went into this story um well and that's what it sounded like too that's why I was saying it's so tough because it's her sister she doesn't I know she wants to be there for her but if her sister is going to call her a home wrecker when she gives her plain as day evidence that she is with somebody who is not good for her and and she's still choing she's yeah choosing to act that way then it's like well there's not that much you can do everyone's grown adults you can't just like force her into you know anything you like have to let her come to you which is why it's hard to like go low contact when she spent most of her life it sounds like caring for the sister so that's so so scary and that how long ago was that update 10 days so oh my God no further comments I'm hoping we I'm hoping we find one and it's like it's hard cuz you can't search like Stacy missing pregnant woman cuz like obviously that's it just it went from so I thought it was just going to be so weird and shitty like kind of like what an [ __ ] to just so dark it got so [ __ ] dark yeah sorry guys I didn't know God I I am I'm going to rearrange this and like you're if if for some reason the episode feels like a little goofy like this is going to be moved to number two at least okay so I can't I can't start us all off like this so I we got to keep looking for updates on this one and I'll try to reach out and message um our op here real quick and see if we get anything okay message has been sent moving along moving along okay this next one this is coming from the subreddit called Dusty Thunder it's 16 days old and titled Emma the [ __ ] for putting [ __ ] on my fiance's copycat baby mama during her wedding I female 32 got with my fiance male 40 about 2 years ago my future husband has three kids with his ex for context fiance and I have been engaged for a year and I've been having fun looking at all kinds of wedding and wedding ideas from themed weddings to small and intimate weddings I even looked at destination weddings and weddings Outdoors now biom Mom female 37 is jealous and evil like super villain level Evil why do I say this because she cheated on my fiance not once but twice and gave him STDs for her efforts somehow I magically cast a spell on her and made her sleep around before I even met her because she says I'm the reason there are problems to my three step kids male 7 female 12 female 16 but luckily the oldest of my step kids knows her [ __ ] and tells the other kids to ignore her oh that's good now baby mama found her fabulous husband been on Bumble and while I normally try to stay away from baby mama and her [ __ ] completely I took issue with her telling the kids that this Joker is their real daddy and to call him as such which the kids told me and Future Husband made them uncomfortable and she then commanded them to start calling my fiance by his first name nope not on my watch I confronted her about it when she came that evening to get the kids and told her it was inappropriate to demand these things of the kids how would you feel if fiance did this bear in mind this woman is high conflict on steroids so I was ready for a fight instead she smiled sweetly at me although it didn't meet her eyes and told me I was absolutely right and then thanked me for helping her to see the air of her ways she shifted some as I stared at her like she had 12 heads when I noticed behind her that the car I had recently told my fiance and my step kids that I wanted was parked behind her with the hazards on it was even in my favorite color green baby mama hates the color green having stated at one point or another that it makes her think of rotting food or the Wicked Witch of the West I stared at the car and she noticed and that's when the most sadistic grin came across her face I kept my cool and tossed my head up at the aforementioned vehicle asking new ride her smirk never left her face as she told me that her fiance got it for her as a wedding gift as he insisted his new family ride in style remind you that the car is a Land Rover and that is well above the financial capabilities of this woman and her fiance combined that's not a shot that's a genuine observation my fiance and I helped out bioom last year with taxes so we know exactly how much she makes about 2 months ago there was a period of calm with biom Mom where we weren't friends or even really friendly but cordial she started telling me about all the wedding plans she had coming up and wanted an extra opinion I was a little taken aback especially when I know she knows the kids my fiance and myself though I haven't publicized my opinion not my monkey and not my circus all think them getting married after going on three dates over 3 weeks suddenly moving in and now getting married after a Max of barely 3 months of knowing one another and being involved with each other is a terrible and possibly dangerous idea Baby Mama doesn't know this guy what if he's a serial killer or hurts kids the safety of the kids is the responsibility of every adult that is in their lives and this seems psychotically irresponsible to me but again I step back and keep my thoughts to myself allowing fiance and my step kids to voice their feelings that being said instead of asking if she lost her mind I nodded politely and said sure thing she asked what I thought of dark blue for bridesmaid's dresses and I Shrugged asking in response if that's what she wanted she said she wasn't sure and was curious what colors I was planning on having quote so we don't have the same thing oh my God I do know my colors wine emerald green and gold but I wasn't about to make the mistake of telling her this I saw the Trap laid before me as soon as the lies were out of her mouth and without missing a beat I said Brown just so everyone is aware I test the color brown she stared Brown I nodded Brown I feel like I want a very earthy and nature-based wedding like complete with a soil bonding ceremony for the record soil bonding is not a thing I totally made it up and I told her that's where you stick your hands in a freshly dug up and fertilized pile of soil touch your hands to your significant others cheeks and vow to return to the Earth with with them bioom looked at me and made a face saying oh interesting fast forward a 2 weeks ago and her wedding came I hadn't forgotten about what I'd said but I didn't really think about it and it didn't really matter what baby mama chose in the end as fiance and I weren't invited to the wedding nor did we want to go jumped to last weekend and my oldest stepdaughter called me and asked me to come get her and her siblings from urgent care I was flying out the door when asked what happened and she explained that her mom and stepdad had gotten ringworm and brought home a couple of other things from the soil SL manure combo they used at their wedding and didn't know about it until they became very symptomatic oh I told my fiance about what happened and he laughed hysterically until he cried he called his brother to tell him what happened his brother and my fiance's ex hate each other but to my my shock my future brother-in-law said this was absolutely not funny and people could have been seriously hurt or worse as a result of my Shenanigans and Petty Behavior oh please my fiance stood up for me saying that high conflict baby mama decided for herself to do this and who in their right mind would smear fresh manure on their faces oh my God I cannot believe that the brother said that that was cross the line brother-in-law called me a schmuck saying I was the [ __ ] in the situation and even went so far as to say this could be classified as attempted murder what is this is this guy okay my fiance said not to worry about it but now I'm actually wondering if I did something wrong no am I the [ __ ] what the [ __ ] attempted murder he what that is I cannot believe he's saying that okay it doesn't matter if it was dangerous like if somebody said yeah for my wedding I'm GNA cut my [ __ ] finger off sorry I'm gonna cut my finger off for my wedding um and then somebody else did that they have no responsibility for that like what do you mean like just because someone said that they're not telling that person to do it she's not she never said you should do this so she didn't do anything wrong she was just literally like if okay I get really confused in terms of the law and stuff like this because I think there's like like um I don't know like cult leaders that like get their Cults to do things on their behalf and can still be held responsible so I get really confused by this but I have seen like she didn't tell her to do anything no she just said this is what I'm doing and the lady copied her and she could have I mean what year is this she could have looked it up online is this a real thing how do I do it it's not like she was like oh you know what you do you take the most dangerous stuff and you put it all over your face and then you'll be cleansed and you should do that please do it you know what I mean like she was just like oh I'm just going to rub dirt on my face because you know like that is so harmless and it's so funny and so no it's I find this whole thing hilarious like this lady is so so dumb to think this was a real thing but I have seen at a wedding and I really love this like you know how there's like the candle lighting ceremony where people Light One Candle or there's like sand they'll combine two different Sands I've seen people like take dirt from their own homes so like I would take dirt from my farm Justin would take his from his house and you combine them so maybe in her eyes it wasn't that farfetch yeah and it's really not that crazy of a concept either like if I wouldn't be like there's no way that's true so I I get but also you can make a choice not to smear [ __ ] on your face yeah yeah I don't think it's that far-fetched but it's it's completely on the lady yeah the baby mama to do her research and do what she actually wants to do for her wedding it at this point seems like she's doing thing doing everything out of spite for this woman like she meets a guy after three dates she's getting engaged and then she's asking her well what are you doing for your wedding and she's like oh your favorite car I'm going to get your favorite car so it almost feels and the especially since she told her kids all these awful things about her like you know all the contexts given it feels like this woman is going out of her way to track op down and copy her just to get under her skin just to piss her off so op just did something very light you know okay you're asking I know I know this game you've done this before you're asking just so you can like spite me so you can get it first you're getting married first um take it from me whatever I'll just tell you something that I'm not actually going to do and then I love it yeah I love it I love it not I'm mad at the brother for like saying all those things to her yeah that is weird like oh you're a schmuck you could be charged with attempted murder ringworm ringworm no come on top comment not the [ __ ] the soil binding thing did she tell her to eat it a bit over the top no but she's the [ __ ] who just had to copy your idea all she had to do to avoid giving everyone ringworm was not copy your idea and next comment down picks up on what you said Lauren or look it up and find out it's not a thing like if I really hated someone who brought this up to me I'd just be big like eyes motion their stupidity and have a normal thing like sand or a candle or like Nerf gun Each Other Well you would think too that even if even if she believed that it was a real thing she would look it up to make sure she knew how to do it correctly for the wedding but then again there probably is something like that online somewhere probably is a real thing so goofy okay moving along okay another one of this week's Partners is Quint giftgiving is my love language I take pride in crushing it every single year I love when people open gifts they're actually going to use or wear or enjoy which is why Quin is going to be my best friend when tackling my list this year Quince is my go-to for Lux Essentials at an affordable price one item I'm eyeing up is this 100% Mongolian cashmere sweater from just $50 these items are all priced 50 to 80% less 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birth but I think this is an important opportunity for my wife and I'm posting because I believe the situation is nuanced and she's not hearing me out my 34 male wife Beth 28 female is 33 weeks pregnant we're both very ready for this baby to come my mom is super Hands-On with my entire family my two brother's wives are very close with her but Beth has just never really clicked the way the other two did I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me that my wife seems disinterested in getting closer with my mom and my sister-in-laws for all five of the bursts that my sister-in-law's had and my mom's three births they were all unmedicated it is clearly a point of Pride for all of them at having done it naturally my mom said she chose to do it because she didn't want me and my brother's born doped up and she wanted to experience the full spectrum of becoming a mother Beth on the other hand is very fearful of birth and has talked to our doctors about being medicated I don't love the idea of the mother of my child being loopy and out of it at such a critical moment but those concerns fell on deaf ears when I raised them I felt very excluded during the discussion around pain management and neither Beth nor our doctor were receptive to my ideas my mom was asking me about our birth plan the other day and I don't know why I did this but I just sort of panicked and told her that Beth was going for it the allnatural way like she and my sister-in-laws have to say my mom freaked out with happiness is an understatement she was thrilled that Beth was open to experiencing the full range of motherhood and this might sound crazy but I think if Beth shared this right of passage with my mom and sister-in-laws they might finally jel I told Beth about my slip up to see if she'd be open to changing her mind given how this could serve as a critical bonding experience for them to share and she lost her mind yelling about how she wasn't going to compete with my mom and sister-in-laws during her birth she emphasized that it was her birth again and again which I don't think is fair because we will both be experiencing and going through it just differently I was just trying to get her to see that there was an opportunity for her to create some Sisterhood with the women of my family I wasn't dictating or even pressuring her I just thought she would want to know how happy it made my mom she said she didn't give a [ __ ] about Sisterhood which was very intense because Beth does not swear I wasn't trying to upset her I just think she would be wise to see the potential long-term implications of not having this shared experience with my mom and sister-in-laws but Beth has been Furious to the point of not speaking to me for several days and I'm starting to wonder if I'm in the wrong even if I was trying to help am I the [ __ ] yes yeah yeah yep ah God damn it her birth her birth she keeps saying her birth it is her birth yes are you pushing something out of your butthole I and this is I'm so completely like I think that when somebody is giving birth that is it's their experience and they get to have it how they want to you know like I've talked about this before where I know people who haven't wanted their in-laws to be in the hospital like they just want you know their own mother and their husband and that's it and that's up to them I just I think that like that whole process is completely up to the person without a question without a doubt that is actually giving birth so I do also want to say that I like the fact that there are men that are so excited about being so involved in the process um like hearing op talk like this like it's it's like even though I don't agree with what he's saying it's like he still is so excited about having his wife bond with the other woman in his life and like sharing an experience that the other women already Bond over and share and say how wonderful and beautiful it was so I do like that he is so excited about being involved in the whole process you know you hear about people that are like so like dead beat they don't even [ __ ] know when their child's being born they're doing something else like whatever um so that's like the one little piece I will give but I do truly believe that that process is full like through and through for the person who is actually giving birth yeah I also think he's just kind of like misinformed like I know in olden days I think they used to give the moms like chloro form like they didn't have like they didn't like well he is how old how old was he again he is 34 so my brother like they didn't they had spinal blocks and like epidurals back then but they weren't like as good as they are now I think is what it is or what my mom has kind of told me because even between like my older brother's birth and my birth there's an 8year age Gap and things had changed like a lot during that time but in the olden times olden days in the olden days it's like it's like only 60 years ago they had had like very like it wasn't great forms of pain control but there's other methods now like I know um you can get laughing gas like if you want like nitrous oxide I'm like hell yeah I'm going to get the laughing gas I want to be giggling my ass off I want to be in a pool when I do it like I want to be so pruny and loose in the water birth thing that it just falls out like it yeah it I don't know what it is yet I don't know it so I don't know there's so many different ways to do it so him being like Oh well I don't want her to be loopy and but like I think you're a little uninformed and it does feel kind of like a competition it feels like this weird like like cult initiation like for you to really fit into this family you have to go through child birth without medication well that is what I don't like because if if op would have approached his wife and just said something like hey I've heard really great things about this I'd really like you to consider it because I think it'll be so magical for you and I want you to experience you know it all those type of conversations that's awesome that's beautiful that's great I think what really pisses me off is that he lied and then got everybody like cheering like little cheerleaders being like she's initiated and now it's like now he just ostracized her because now when she tells them no that's not what I'm going to do they're going to be like oh she doesn't get it she didn't do it you know what I mean like stuff like it opens up opportunities to just cause this unnecessary Dynamic so true and like to shame her too and like I think that's something people need to consider too is like a birth plan is just like this is your ideal World birth plans don't always go according to plan sometimes you need an emergency C- SE sometimes you decide you want the epidural like it's just like a best case scenario but like it's also okay to change your mind mhm yeah he's really goofy I also this reminded me of someone that we know who literally said like they think that having pain like prevents the mom and baby from bonding or something crazy like that do you remember that wait say it offline right now we were sitting around a fire one time yeah so like I'll bleep the name so we were sitting around a fire at Justin's house and this guy that was there we were talking about like like childbirth and like all of this stuff and he literally said I don't think women get to bond with their babies if they get medicated like I think women should have to go through it naturally and I go I was just like looking at him and I there's no way that he said have to yeah he wouldn't say have to they should they should and I was sitting there and I'm like this dude's [ __ ] nuts I go that's really convenient for you to say when you don't have to push push it out yeah oh my god oh yeah speaking of so funny actually sorry finish no I just I I was blown away yeah oh so funny I me and um my boyfriend were driving the car the other day and I just was like you're driving the car together well at the same time I was you know morally supporting him on the side okay passenger princess but um we okay so just a side note we've been watching this show called upload and in it is um this opportunity for men actually to carry the baby so someday yes so I was asking him I was like Hey I was like if if it was an option like if either of us could carry the baby would you carry our baby and he goes no and I was like no what do you mean no at least think about it yeah I no no I grilled him it was so funny I was like what do you mean no and he he's like um I just feel like it's it's a like a woman's body is able to you know handle that like you they're like built to carry babies you know like my my body's probably not built for that I was like well the idea in this scenario is that your body is built for it and he goes oh yeah know so no so this is this is something that is very common right now and it's a big conversation about why guys are no shalant like all like a lot of guys yeah I want kids yeah they want kids cuz they don't have to do anything really to have the kid well to be fair um my boyfriend I don't know if I should call him by his name or my boyfriend I don't know but to be fair um Brian actually said that he didn't want kids previously until he met me and then he wanted kids so it's not something that he's always been like you know whatever but then but then this is where it's funny is that I want to fight him at least lie at least say yeah well no then then wait for then wait for it so then I press him again and I'm like I'm like no this in this scenario you would be able to hold the baby just the same as I would be able to and he's like oh okay he's like yeah no I don't think I'd like that and I was like I was like why and he's like you just do weird things to my body like I just he's like I don't you know whatever and I was like what do you mean yeah I was like what do you think so you're okay me going through that yeah and then he's like oh damn you're right he's like wow and given he's driving he's probably like in a different like Zone where they listen to music but he's like oh you're so right he's he's like wow I really just walked myself into a corner now it makes sense he's like he's like yes okay I changed my answer of course I would carry the baby I think I'm literally going to ask Justin this I think a lot of people listening could ask their partner this like like cuz I think it kind of is in a lot of relationships like head relationships like it's very clear who the who would be the one carrying the baby but in others like like lesbian couples like they're they have a conversation about this so I literally think a lot of people could ask their Partners this and be like if you could carry our baby and it's the same consequences or potential consequences as what I would have to deal with would you do it I'm going to ask Justin this and honestly his answer could start probably our biggest fight stop I'm so mad really I I don't know why cuz it's like it is such a sacrifice for people to have a baby and so like I think a lot of guys do take that for granted or just like don't think about the rist and the consequences and you know all the stuff that happens and so it's like like it's like no I wouldn't it's I'm like I'm GNA if Justin says no I'm GNA fight him well it was just funny cuz I kept I don't remember the exact wording but I just kept kind of like being like well and he's like wow damn you're so right he's like okay I would carry the baby like he came he came back down to earth and was like okay I would do it but it was just so I don't know it made me laugh cuz he was like he's like oh cuz it would do weird you know it would do weird things to my body and I'm like yeah yeah and I'm like and who are usually more criticized for their bodies I was like Dad bods are in all the time I was like I was I want him to like physically do it now no matter what I literally W he honestly he probably would I have he was answering very just like kind of like no no like it wasn't like with conviction like he I actually think that if it was an option I do think that he would actually be like okay I get one you get one I saw this video of this couple that they strapped um like they duct taped or strapped somehow like a watermelon to this guy's belly and he walked around with it for a day and I'm to the point now where like if I have to go through this like I want Justin to experience my pain I want to get a suit like a weighted little belly suit for every single like month or whatever I want the whole time I'm like if I got to get big you you got to get big you got to you got to have this extra weight you got to Puff your ankles up like I literally do not want to be pregnant like yeah if it happens it happens I don't want to be pregnant I'm the same way like at all I'm the same way uh I want kids but like I know I know there's a lot of people that are really excited about the idea of being pregnant and they talk about how like magical experience like my roommate has talked about that too like you're glowing like she's like I can't wait to be pregnant and that is just never where I've been so that is like I think having a baby is magical but or the idea of it I haven't had one but um sounds pretty great sounds magical yeah but I just don't I'm too I already have enough like weird stomach [ __ ] and like I'm so Restless already when I'm like sleeping so I just can't imagine being pregnant and being like okay I don't like yeah yeah it sounds I already have to pee all the time like in the middle of the night so like I just your bladder's going to be [ __ ] up after for sure yeah I know and we don't even get pelvic floor therapy automatically here in the states like you have to like ask for it or like really pursue it and like meanwhile in France she start taking classes I I wanted to get pelvic floor certified I I I really want to look into it and then my brother actually had pelvic floor therapy because of some issues he developed from like Long Haul covid syndrome oh wow so he went through pelvic floor therapy and then okay maybe I'm not understanding what pelvic floor therapy is then um so like we all have I honestly thought you were talking about kull so kull is a part of it for um women or people that have you know those organs um but men also have pelvic floor muscles too so like if you want to like feel what your pelvic floor is as you're peeing stop the flow like you clench that's your pelvic floor and so guys have those muscles too and so like if you have like erectile dysfunction or like issues with your prostate that can be a part of like pelvic floor health and so my brother had like this crazy thing happen to him after um having covid and so he had pelvic Flor therapy and like it was really interesting hearing about his process and so I wouldn't want to do pelvic floor therapy on men we'll put it that way okay it's interesting I'm kind of interested now I'll tell you offline okay it was very interesting what he had to go through the poor guy um so there are a lot of comments from op someone comments you're the [ __ ] your complete and utter selfishness is so overwhelming that I had to take a break while reading this post you and your wife will be experiencing this birth differently because you'll be sitting on your judgmental ass while your wife's body is forever transformed you are a full partner in parenting but regardless of what mommy told you the hours you spend laboring aren't even close to the full range of motherhood so take a seat oo Opie goes I appreciate that we will have very different roles and experiences of the birth all I meant was I'm seeing the holistic experience as something we create together because we made this child together and we'll love this child together certainly we have different roles in the process she's more the quarterback and I'm more the coach so I know she's the one working while I'm the one strategizing a different commenter respond responds to that comment from him and goes you're not the coach the coach has experience and knowledge the Midwife is the coach you're the cheerleader smile nod wave your pom poms and say yes babe you're doing amazing yeah op goes I have done extensive reading on natural ways to control pain and ensure the baby makes it out with minimal damage to my wife so I don't think it's fair to suggest I don't have value to bring to the experience do you know what fourth degree tear looks like buddy I think you should check it out also for those that are giving birth about to give birth olive oil paranal massages baby you do that what is that you like you know the area in between your vagina and your [ __ ] okay you're supposed to like massage that W and it reduces the risk of tearing holy how do you massage that massage with like oils like I was picturing like this so like a fourth degree vaginal tear is the most severe they go through the anal sphincter and in the mucus membrane that lines the rectum it needs to be repaired in an operating room rather than in the delivery room so like I want to find a picture for you I don't think you can handle it after seeing it oh this this you can handle it's just a nice image okay so this is like a fourth degree tear so this is your vaginal canal and that all tears oh wow completely down through all the layers so do the massages people and then if you do um apparently water burst can help as well reduce the likelihood I'm going to be trying everything my mom got cut they they sometimes do otomies and so she got cut I remember learning about that when I was really young and I just like when I was in human growth and development class what I think they used to call it and I just remember cringing um just that does not sound Pleasant um yeah there's a lot of annoying comments from op there's another one that's just like I know I'm not giving birth but I will be experiencing it in a sense so I feel my opinion is valid it's not you're the [ __ ] this is akin to her saying you should go through major surgery without any anesthesia she is giving birth not you you are not equal Partners in this you are a spectator while she's doing all of the work so you get zero say in how she chooses to do it agreed um at this point you should consider yourself lucky if she's allows you to be in the hospital room at all Opie goes I don't think that's an accurate analogy women have been giving birth for thousands of years unmedicated pain management for surgery is account for something unnaturally occurring I.E opening a chest cavity I know she's the one doing the work I just feel like we are better off approaching as a team effort so we should be aligned shut up did you see the video give it up buddy I know did you see the video of Travis Barker playing his drum set in the delivery room literally sitting there with a drum set while she's in the hospital giving birth wait what's his name Travis Barker like the Blink 182 drummer married Courtney Kardashian I would murder for some reason I thought it was Parker so I got confused yeah Parker is such a funny last name wof yeah um yeah I would not be able to that I would be kicking my partner out of the delivery room did she want want it that way though I think she's just so in love see her wanting it that way she's yeah like she's like the first thing that our baby will hear is you you know okay bless her soul though bless her heart yeah another one of this week's Partners is beam sleep is so important and not something I am willing to sacrifice and you really shouldn't either because poor sleep can cause weight gain mood issues and poor mental health among a bunch of other things which is why I'm so excited to introduce you to beam beam's dream powder is basically a healthy hot cocoa to lull you to bed Jus and I have been using this for a while now and I am obsessed with the 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code necessary that's shop bam.com tht for up to 50% off link is in the description we're going to get real weird here we haven't gotten real real weird for a while I 21 female want my father 51 male to be the sperm donor for my fiance say 22 female and I but she thinks this is wrong what could possibly be done I mean that would be your sibling then my 21 female fiance 22 female and I have been doing some future planning lately we set to get married in the spring next year and we know we both want kids so we sat down and talked about how we'd like to make that happen she's okay with adopting but I'm not for a variety of reasons and we determined that the option that makes us both the happiest is getting a sperm donor it's extremely important to me that the baby be genetically related to both of us since she's not in contact with her family homophobic the only way that the baby would be related to both of us is if she carries the child and the sperm comes from my side of the family I'm an only child and I have no uncles or male cousins of an appropriate age the only way we could do this is if my dad 51 male is the donor I figured he would be excited to help us have the family we've always dreamed of and I talked it over with him and he was totally on board he said he'd let my mom 52 female know we were planning on adding to our family everything is ready to go on our end whenever we decide to start trying I thought it was really beautiful way to unite our sides of the family and I know my dad felt the same but to my surprise my fiance was really against it she laughed at me at first which confused me because we were having a serious conversation ation and then she asked if I was joking when I said I wasn't her face immediately dropped she literally looked disgusted she said that would be really weird as our baby would be my sibling and that she wasn't comfortable with that in any way shape or form my dad has stepped in a bit for her because of the aformentioned homophobia in her family and has become a secondary sort of Father Figure for her which she brought up she said having his baby felt wrong and incest ous she said it wouldn't feel like a medical procedure or fertility help it would feel sexual that's insane I don't see how it's different from any other donor other than actually meaning something to us I'm honestly kind of insulted this is a rejection of my family as well as me and the fact that she refused to even consider it made me feel overruled in something that's supposed to include the both of us I can't see myself having a connection to a baby that isn't related to me it wouldn't be my baby just a baby I'm taking care of even if she says she doesn't feel the same I think she'd have a hard time with it if it was the other way around and the baby wasn't related to her this feels like our only option and she shot it down without considering my feelings this is really important to me I'm worried we won't be able to compromise on this and we'll never have kids which would be a deal breaker for me additionally this is also the cheaper option for kids we wouldn't have to pay for the sperm donor which can cost a lot and we wouldn't have to do expensive IVF stuff either since if we get it from my dad it can all be done at home what it's what I hope you mean turkey baster and not sex oh yeah I W sorry I just I I'm just registering the fact that she said it can all be done at home um wait so what I don't know if she means like it can be done at home doctor comes in and do does it like I hope she me that feels that even feels way more sexual like the dad just thinks of something hot and like jizzes and then hands it over like do you know what I mean like that even like without a professional there that that feels even more well and sorry is there more no well the and the thing is is that like it's her body and her choice she doesn't want to do it it really does work like that she really can shoot it down end story so unfortunately if that is a deal breaker for you then you guys might not be the right match and although it is really strange I do understand that op is at a place where she wants to have the child be both her and her partner's jeans but it's also like well it wouldn't even be your jeans because it's I mean yes it's your jeans but it's like it's it's your sibling it's yeah it's it's an interesting concept and I I don't like blame her for thinking like that I mean I was just um I was watching sex education so good but um one of the guys his parents they're um Le a lesbian couple and one is his biological mom and the other one is not and one time when they got in a fight he said something along like offensive to his non-bio mom and she kind of broke down and was like this has been my worst fear since like the day we had you is that you you would you wouldn't look me at me as much as a mom as you look at your bioom damn so I do understand that there's probably a lot that goes into those type of decisions um and so I'm not I don't even though it it does feel weird I'm not I don't think that op is like gross or anything for her thought process but it it you know the reality is is that her partner does find it gross and is not okay with it and that's just the reality so you you shouldn't try to force that onto somebody who feels like it feels sexual on top of it you know well especially because she starts to look at him as a second father because the relationship with her own family is strained exactly so that's where it's like it's a really weird position to put her in mhm and I also think it's strange that she didn't talk to her fiance before going to the dad right like this is a really big conversation you should be having with her before anything and like I feel like it's kind of weird where it's like I feel like this is our only option and she shot it down without even considering my feelings you went and talked to your dad about this without even considering her feelings and this isn't your only option like yeah if you feel like you can't love a kid that's not genetically yours then you're the one that gets to carry it and she you use a owner right like it doesn't seem like she's got an issue with that because she considered adoption so it's not your only solution exactly but I would say maybe she doesn't want to carry the baby maybe she doesn't want it yeah I don't want to yeah I'm going to find a way for Justin to but sorry you will say what I will say like I think saying that um is kind of kind of a caution flag for me saying what um not loving the child is I can't see myself having a connection to a baby that isn't related to me BR it wouldn't be my baby just a baby I'm taking care of technically that baby with your dad's sperm isn't your baby it's your dad's bab your babysitting for your sibling if you want to get technical but like I know I know that like there's a lot of people that get their family to donate and like yes that is your child I don't want to like invalidate that but like I'm trying to like logic her exactly it's a logic game no I totally get it like you it's that's not the reality of it but if that's how she's thinking about it then let's get nitty-gritty and really get logical you know what I mean cuz it's like the reality is is that and I've talked about this before but we have a friend who has said to me that if she were to find out today that her two children somehow are biologically not hers she said it would not change a single thing she was like having children is about raising them truly and I think that that probably that kind of like raises questions to me it's like okay yes totally understand that you want to have a biological child to you that's so fair I understand however if you think that you genuinely can't love the child if it's not biologically yours are you sure that you want to raise children do you know what I mean like that kind of like makes me question and like the fact that did she are you sure she didn't say that she had fertility issues was there something that why she wasn't carrying the baby you know I do I'm on the original post and I do see some comments from op let me see if I can go to the account there was an update unfortunately it's been removed oh and thanks to Reddit being very assholish themselves they don't allow certain plugins anymore so I can't even use like the Wayback machine if someone has figured out a different way to do it please let me know um are some comments from op none mentioning fertility issues someone did point out like you should have talked to her first I only talked it over with my dad first so that my girlfriend and I wouldn't get our hopes up and then find out we couldn't do it that makes sense I didn't think it was going to be a huge issue I just didn't want her disappointed if it didn't work out MH someone must have gotten weirded out with the um with the comment like oh it's cheaper cuz it can all be done at home and they have like a long thing like hey honey dad's in the bedroom get ready yeah and so Opie goes I would never in a million years ever want or expect her and my dad to actually touch each other that's actually disgusting and it turns my stomach how many people have jumped to this conclusion in the comments I didn't set up or arrange anything if she vetos completely it is a veto 100% but I was just hurt by her reasoning well it sounds like op's logical a little bit Yeah like not maybe as obtuse as we we thought I mean like overall logical if she can kind of look at it from different angles yeah I guess right yeah I'm so curious what the update said it it must have got removed pretty quickly um it looks like op tried to post it a couple times and still just kept getting taken down H yeah nothing I can't find it maybe maybe somewhere in the world there are screenshots of it I'm really searching for this up how would you feel if um I'm trying to think of who I want you to put your self in the shoes of how how would you feel if Justin asked if his dad could donate I would throw up so you would say absolutely no if if Justin couldn't have absolutely not you okay no I would I would [ __ ] throw up instantly God that's just so disgusting no I I honestly I've never thought about if if we can't have kids like of our own genetic material I've actually never thought about this about like what we' do next I honestly I don't know I'm GNA I'm gonna I have a lot of questions to ask him tonight yeah you do so many questions well I I don't think I'd want I don't think I'd want a sperm toner well did you ever see the Friends episode where um Monica and Chandler um sad I know first time I've talked about him since just so tragic so sad um okay not going to get weren't they going to use Joey's sperm or something or what were they going to do I don't remember it's been a long time since I've seen it but um but I just I do know that they were it was Chandler I believe that couldn't have the kids yes and then yeah and so she was trying to they were trying to figure out who they wanted and they were going around trying to find like this star type of guy they had like a coworker come over and was like do you have braces and like weird weirded him out yeah and then they ultimately decided that they wanted to um adopt because she's like I don't want to have kids with anyone else besides you so i' rather I think like that's probably how I would feel too I don't know I've never like I've said I've never really thought about it but yeah this one is weird if anyone finds the update and can track it down send it our way because I'm curious but yeah this is I think she's being a little obtuse to like not see the partners like ick in all of it yeah yeah it is interesting the only redeeming part though is that she did comment back and say no like I understand it's it's her choice I was just hurt that she didn't even like you know have a conversation with me but just shut me or whatever she said so that's what I was saying at least she understands that she can't like force her to do this or absolutely yeah little little redeeming little bit Yeah redemption in it there redeeming qualities okay well that's all I have for the regular episode we're headed to patreon for one more from this theme oh [ __ ] okay yeah it's going to be good um just a reminder to check out the new merch there is uh some free content on patreon already and there's going to be one other bonus story this month as well as if you join even the lowest tier you get a discount code for Merch and there's so much fun stuff over there so come join us even if it's the free tab like we love connecting and like talking to you all so it's a good time but yeah check out the merch you guys I'm absolutely obsessed with this I I love it I'm already working on design number two too super cute it's going to be like a whole theme of like travish type poster art with let's Dive In love it I know it's so 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Published: Wed Nov 22 2023