David Icke on Free Speech & Who controls the World

[Music] thanks for doing the podcast no problem really appreciate it um i wanted to start with a question but actually you've just raised something before we started about um freedom of speech and something that happened to you recently and it sounds like it's important to talk about so um how do you feel the freedom of speech is for us in society and what do you think's wrong about it would you want to change about it well i'd like to have some i think that would be a good start well you can say what you want here so see you see the thing is that what is freedom of speech it's the freedom to speak so i read a politician today saying i agree with freedom of speech but there are limits well there's no freedom of speech then freedom of speech is the freedom to speak if anyone's not allowed to speak then it's not freedom of speech it's freedom to conform to certain parameters of what are acceptable and then what that's doing is giving power to some authority to decide what is acceptable and what is not acceptable and as we see and we're seeing it massively now once you give that power to an authority it then starts interpreting what can and cannot uh be said in a way that squeezes and squeezes and squeezes more and more of what cannot be said this is what political correctness is about what is political correctness it's simply manipulating the target population to silence itself so those in authority don't have to it's ridiculous now people say well you you say that people can say anything well yes i do and i'll say i'll tell you why um there are laws against incitement to racism incitement to uh hatred incitement to to violence there are laws against that are they laws you agree with uh yeah and if people um use their freedom of speech to incite those things um then there are laws to deal with that and those laws should deal with it what i'm saying is once you start censoring freedom of speech at the point of delivery or or even more uh sinister before the point of delivery by banning people from the right to have access to uh the communication networks or speak in public that is what the fascists do what what what did fascists do in in nazi germany what does any tyranny do it wants to um silence those that are exposing the tyranny and i have a different version of events to the tyranny so what did the nazis do they burnt the books they banned the meetings of people who were exposing the nazis and now in this inverted world we have people who call themselves progressives and they seem to um have this extraordinary self-delusion that that progressive mentality has something to do with being liberal when it's not it's the opposite of liberal they are the ones that claim to be um wanting um people to be inclusive and to have diversity well maybe on their team when they're destroying diversity and they have become the new tyranny they have become the new nazis and uh so that sounds quite a strong thing to say well it's actually what i'm what i'm saying here is if you look at what this progressive mentality is doing in silencing people and deciding in their arrogance what people can and cannot say and what opinion they can and cannot have you look at what the nazis did you look at what communist uh the communist soviet union did in terms of freedom of speech and you'd show me the difference between the between them there is none and it's this self-deluded arrogance which goes like this i am right therefore anyone who says something different must therefore be wrong and by definition because they are wrong and i am right their freedom of speech to be wrong doesn't need to be taken into account that's how the mentality goes what i say is i don't agree with them i don't agree with them i don't agree with them i do agree with them but i don't want to silence any of them because are we so immature that we can't hear different opinions even those we don't like sits back in in amazement horrified call the police and make our own um judgments on what are being said on what's being said and the validity of it do we not have the maturity to to put forward another counter-argument which if we are confident in what we're saying will um demolish um that which we don't agree with anyone that wants to silence people rather than argue their case can't have much confidence in their own case surely and once you go down this road of giving authority the right to decide um what can be said what opinions can be can be had you are you are in a tyranny and that's where we're going now but it's bigger than that because it's not just political correctness you can't say this you can't say that you must say that it's also the fact that humanity has been hoaxed on a monumental scale in relation to freedom of expression and freedom of information and it's been done out of an area that i call the devil's playground it's better known as silicon valley what's happened is when you do the research intelligence organizations like the cia in the united states the national security agency and the pentagon through an organization called darpa the technological development arm of the pentagon they began seed funding technology and companies to develop what has become now known as the internet and an um an outgrowth of that what became known as social media and the search engine technology which eventually became known as google all those were seed funded by the this military intelligence network and when they were selling it because you you can't show something's real face at the at the start otherwise people will reject it and it won't get anywhere you have to put another face to the world so it was google oh yeah google yeah and we just got a search engine we can find what we like that's great hey and social media oh you post to your friends you can say what you like there's no censorship and it great and then it builds and then it builds and then it builds and now you've reached a point now with facebook where it claims 2.2 billion active users in a global population of 7.5 billion you have um this 90 percent monopoly on search engines uh um searches of google you have youtube which has got basically a monopoly on the posting of internet videos which is owned by google and once this monopolistic situation uh was reached then they started saying okay now we've got this much control we're gonna start deciding what you see and what you don't see it's fishing line out oh it ain't great yeah right say what you like you know no censorship ooh gotcha and so we now have facebook that is systematically um censoring information outside of the official narrative um we have this situation with facebook and twitter now which is known as ghost banning which they do to me which is you post it but all the people that would like to see it and i've liked or or followed would like to see it they don't see it only a few of them see it the vast majority don't see it because of ghost banning they just don't circulate it and you now have as blatant as can be youtube is just deleting large large and greater all the time numbers of channels that are uh presenting a different um narrative to the uh to the official one in a across the swathe of subjects that are just being deleted they're just being deleted without any explanation just that you you've um you've um broken our guidelines what guidelines well he's doing something different uh something the same rather and he's not breaking your guidelines but oh hold on a minute he's saying the official narrative is true and and you you were going to ask why is it happening well it's happening because um i've been talking for 30 years in writing for 30 years there are very few people control the world very few people people to be staggered how few how many um well i'm going to come to that in terms of it's fewer now than ever before and why but people have a lot of people have said in response to that a few people can't control the world there's too many people it's not possible well now we have a handful of people which you could probably get on ten fingers or two hands yeah that control google control um youtube owned by google control facebook that absolutely dominate the information that most people see or don't see we we have a concentration of power in silicon valley a very small area of the world that is the greatest concentration of surveillance and censorship power the world has ever seen they can decide what you see and what you don't see and they control your data in other words the intelligence military intelligence community can to find out the fine detail of your life from the information that you've posted on these various uh platforms so that's where what we're facing in terms of freedom of speech it's disappearing in fact it doesn't exist there is no freedom of speech by the definition of freedom of speech is the freedom to speak your opinion and not have it censored and not have it banned so this happened to you didn't it at one of your talks where they tried to close it down well they always try to close my talks down um when i say they i'm talking about a ridiculously few people we've reached the point now where there is a global network of ultra zionist groups that answer to israel and the netanyahu regime currently who um are targeting anyone who is any in any way questioning the fact that um israel is not god's gift to humanity in every last thing that it does this does not um only include the general population the ones they focused most on are jewish people jewish people who are questioning the israeli treatment of the palestinians which is horrific are being targeted by these ultra zionist hate groups i say hate groups because they're modus operandized to get the public to hate their targets to silence them and it's extraordinary how easy it is i'll tell you how easy it is with me um they they go to um and i'm talking a a ridiculously few people that don't represent the jewish community at all just claim to they um they'll go to a venue and they'll say uh this man ike he's gonna come and say um it's all the jews he's anti-semitic he's a racist he's gonna say that the jews are doing this the jews are doing that i ain't saying any of that the venue does not then come to me and say look these people are saying you're going to say this and i'd say look go on my website and you'll see a video a 10-hour talk that i've been doing for the last um two years show me where there's any anti-semitism or racism in it quite the opposite because what i'm saying is ironically we need to put down these irrelevant manufactured fault lines of race and religion and culture and color that divide us and realize that we're actually all one consciousness having different experiences and that we've got caught in the illusion that the experiences of who we are when we are that consciousness that's having the experiences so i am um presenting what you you could easily call the ultimate non-racist um uh uh view of life because i say race is a nonsense and an irrelevance and an illusion same with all of it religion but the venues never check they just say oh well oh okay we're not we're not going to have have you have him then yeah saying that even though he's not going to say it and they canceled the event now when a venue says to these people who orchestrate emails and letters all orchestrated same few people every time um the venue says no hold on freedom of speech mate we're not having no no no he's going to be allowed to speak what they then do is up the ante they start um saying to the venue well this these are the consequences for you if if you do this and whatever and then and some of them go to the police and they say oh you know this could be very very uh uh dangerous to the to the audience and the staff because there's going to be big protests against this person and the police in leicester leicestershire one of them the guy that that handled it was a counter terrorist officer right you're laughing so did i so i went to meet this guy they they go to the venue right and they say oh oh you know danger to the staff danger to the to to the audience and and one of the things they said to the uh to the venue was well they could damage your reputation right i'm thinking now i thought the police were there to defend freedom of speech not persuade a bloody venue that it'd be better in their interest if they destroyed it right so anyway that's what happened and i we got a meeting and i went up to leicester and i met this counter-terrorism officer god help us if that's counter-terrorism's level of operation and i met this other guy from leicester city council and the first thing i said to him i gave them the email sent to us from the venue laying out what these two had told the venue and i said to them can you confirm that what is being said by the venue here happened and that's what you did they agreed um so i knew what the interaction had been so then i said to them uh name me one book of mine that you've ever read silence so i said okay name me one um public event of mine that you've ever attended silence then i said well now name me one event anywhere in the world and i've been right round the world in the last two years um any event in the last two years on this world tour where one single has ever protested silence reason a they couldn't answer because they're not checked and secondly not one has ever protested but all it's taken is for people to contact the venue or in this case contract the police as well tell absolute lies about what i'm saying and and and they destroy freedom of speech and someone's a ability to to speak in public and be the people to take the choice to listen that was a sold out event in leicester my hometown um and then what these uh ultra zionist hate groups uh do is they then contact the media when a um a venue cancels because of them and they say um the event's been cancelled because the the uh the venue realized he's a holocaust denier and an anti-semite of course um the media then repeat that and you see a headline like holocaust denier uh david ike's event cancelled and when this has appeared on these uh mainstream news sites on the internet i've contacted them every single one i don't usually but in this case you have to and i've said before i call my lawyers would you please send me the evidence you have to support that headline in every single case by none they take it down in minutes because they have none all they've done is repeated what these ultra zionist groups have said and what we are now seeing and there's been a number of examples this week as we speak is more and more jewish people are coming out and and uh saying to these about these hate groups um you don't speak for us there's this one guy on the internet a story that was broke today a jewish man who who who did a video on youtube uh basically saying to these ultra zionist hate groups i'm jewish and you not sp you don't speak for me in fact you're causing anti-semitism by what you're doing he had his video deleted right so when you've got uh uh jewish people speaking out against israel and and the israeli government that's really bad because it's it's it's very um it's very hard to paint them as as racist against jews when they are jews so they are targeted even more fiercely by these ultra zionist hate groups than than people who want jewish and and their freedom of speech is disappearing and what we need to do is come together all of us who are being uh blatantly defamed and misrepresented by these groups and they are they are very few in number but very well funded um and and and jointly expose what they're doing because they are they are destroying freedom of speech in an ever gathering way um week after week after week and if it goes on there will be no uh body who can speak in public and challenge the official narrative because they'll all be banned that's where we're going and do you think because i've noticed on facebook with some of the changes and algorithm and the reduction of the reach and the cambridge analytica and all that i think people are starting to get a bit pissed off with it now and there's i mean some of the things you're saying i know you're talking about certain races religions etc but i just see a lot of people online going wait a minute now you you're censoring sometimes but just i know a lot of my posts they go to one percent of my audience yeah exactly these are people that found me for the last 10 years that want to follow me um and i've built this over time this is the ghostbusters group yeah and then and if it's not in the format that they want you know so like video they'll do it but you know and um yeah so do you think people are like had enough now oh they're they're getting sick of it of course they're getting sick of it as they begin to understand the scale of it and where this ultimately is going to lead which will be silencing any dissent whatsoever that's what it's all about and you know what sickens me more than anything else about these ultra zionist hate groups is that they are exploiting i mean it all it almost is incomprehensible to think that they are exploiting what happened to jewish people in nazi germany something i'm supposed to be denying according to them they are exploiting the horrors of what happened to jewish people in nazi germany and others by the way to pursue an agenda of silencing descent today that is beyond sickening turns my stomach and they need to be called out on it because you know in terms of me they've taken on the wrong guy because i don't give a damn what people think of me but i do give a damn about people having a right to have that have an opinion even if i don't agree with it and a lot of people when they're faced with this they run or or they give up why don't you what drives you david well if you give up what you have researched for 30 years to understand what the end game is will happen unchallenged so giving up is just absolutely not an option um when people try to silence me i just run at them even quicker and if you don't give up and you and you you speak your truth and you're not um spewing out hatred and all this this other stuff but you you're you're talking about the need to love each other and the the need to put down the fault lines that divide us um then it it's a power in itself which true hatred which is that trying to silence you can't cope with you know when when when true hatred like these ultra zionist hate groups um come into conflict with true hatred which is some of these far right operations then that's a different dynamic because that's hate fighting hate but when hate's trying to silence or hate trying to silence hate but when hate's trying to silence someone who's trying to articulate our hatred is um is how we got into this mess how um allowing the fault lines to divide us is how we got into this mess and that dynamic is different and that's why they struggle with me because i'm not saying what they claim i'm saying and they can't make that stand up therefore to any uh proper examination and that's why they will never debate with me i've offered to debate with them i i said to them i will debate all of you together just me no problem they won't do it because let me tell you another quick story to show how far this has gone and how disgusting it is i um had a book launch of my new book everything you need to know but i've never been told um and the first book launch was in edinburgh and they tried to stop that and um the uh owner of the venue um who'd spent a lot of time in israel by the way um got a barrister to look through my work to see if what was being claimed by these hate groups was true he rightly concluded it wasn't it went ahead brilliant no problem spoke in london a few days later at the troxie venue in london and again they tried to stop it but the owner knew what i was saying knew what they were claiming was the nonsense it went ahead it were great in fact there were some people there from these hate groups who heard what i said saw that it absolutely wasn't racist but they completely ignore that on the um on the friday of the same week i was due to um to speak in manchester first of all i was due to speak um before at the lowry hotel in manchester to as a book launch all going well booking taken these hate groups eventually um lie through their teeth to the lowry and the lowry panic and say oh we're going to cancel then there was a second one which is some museum and then they did the same and then we went to manchester united old trafford and um explain to them what's been happening and the people at manchester united in the conference area anyway he said oh no we're manchester united we don't back down to them to to to intimidation no problem so it went on it went on on the thursday afternoon with the event on the friday with um people coming from long distances and a lot of the people are going to be there manchester united supporters at this book launch it was a dinner on the thursday afternoon my son jamie organizes all this stuff was in conversation with manchester united for the final arrangements next morning when these ultra zionist hate groups got wind of where we would where where the venue was going to be because we kept it quiet because of what happens they contact manchester united they contact the local labor mp for the manchester united area called kate green whose virtue signal in all directions she contacts kick it out this anti-racist group in football and together they pressure manchester united to pull the event on the morning it was happening never mind all those people that had bought tickets for this dinner never mind there were people who his birthday present for no no matter there were lots of man united supporters among them um cancel it now here's a question what does kate green labour mp know about what i'm saying nothing only what the hate groups told her what did kick it out know about what i'm saying nothing only what the hate groups told them this is how easy it is to destroy freedom of speech and i'll tell you one other thing about manchester in um in early uh 2017 i was due to do an all-day event at the manchester o2 apollo um again a sellout and um these hate groups uh approached the uh apollo to cancel now fortunately i have spoken at a number of venues of the same chain they know what i'm saying they know the kind of people that come along and they know what happened so of course they said no so and it went ahead so what this uh one of these groups uh the called the campaign against anti-semitism this is the worst it was um launched right in the middle of the last israeli bombardment of gaza when the british public were appalled about the slaughter that was going on and they said to the audience that came to the event um email us with um the anti-semitism and and and make a complaint to us and then we'll take it further well of course there was none so what the audience did was email them with copies to me saying actually he said the opposite he said we we need to love each other and put down the fault lines of that dividers like race and religion what the campaign against anti-semitism then did is called the caa is ignore those emails ignore what the audience said that i spoke about and went to the subsequent venues and told them the same that they told the manchester venue and previous venues about what i'm going to say that's the disingenuous manipulation that's going on and like i say some of the biggest um uh people who had the biggest uh uh consequences from this are jewish people um and we we have to stop um running away from these things running away from talking about them and just speak the facts because if we don't face this then this um grotesque misrepresentation is going to destroy freedom of speech uh for for everybody because that's what it's meant to do okay so is there a paradox going on here um i realize my need for facebook and youtube in getting my message out there and sometimes feel a bit wronged maybe not as strongly as you but certainly i do certainly feel that my reach is getting artificially exactly reduced yeah you sell millions of books you know you've got hundred fifty thousand followers i think on facebook and let's see i'll stop you there okay now please three years ago i had about 750 000 followers on facebook yeah all these years later with interest in my work exploding i have about 750 000 followers on facebook so something's happening that's the algorithms at work and how the uh um suppression yeah uh operates yeah um and how do you deal with inside or balance this paradox of these being a great platform for you to get your message and your work out to the world yet feeling controlled and limited by them well it's it's um i'm going to take notes of myself here because yeah the same thing well it's it's it's it's it's a simple reply really um first of all they're becoming less and less of a um a good platform as they the suppression uh contracts what is getting circulated but you use the system to expose the system because the system has the community the um networks of communication so as best and dominates them so as best you can you have to use the system to expose the system but in terms of entrepreneurs and it is starting to happen you know what do they say what's that line um necessity is the mother of invention um old saying um entrepreneurs if you like who are genuine who believe in freedom of speech they have a fantastic opportunity here and and can make an enormous contribution to human freedom by developing platforms not least video platforms and developing uh communication platforms to replace these um system controlled operations so that we don't have to uh use the system to to uh bring the system down only we have our own free platforms non-censored platforms that that um that can communicate it and the more then um that you have censorship and suppression in the official media networks the more people will gravitate towards those that are censorship-free and it will become counterproductive then for the the the um the corporate giants in silicon valley to to go down the road they're going because it just they'll just be uh um replaced because there there is i mean i've i've been on this journey now for nearly 30 years when i started out no one wanted to know i was just laughed at in the street and everything on this world tour speaking tour since the summer of 2016 all over the world literally i have seen um a dramatic transformation both in the numbers of people that want to look at the world in another way and see that maybe this official narrative is not exactly how it is or anything like it is and only that the kind of people people within the system people that a few years ago you thought they they'd never be you know in a position to think differently or question but they are there is a changing uh um awareness going on that the world is not like they thought it was and the system has told them from cradle uh since since they were born to um how how things are because when you when you look at a human life it is a download of the official version of everything that's what it is this is why um vast numbers of people have no other filter for their view of reality self world events than the information they receive from the mainstream media and mainstream everything you know you come out of the womb and your parents who've been through the process that you're about to go through the programming process they start influencing your perceptions of reality overwhelmingly the vast overwhelming majority not because they're being malevolent but they've been persuaded that their version of everything is true therefore they're passing on on to you uh because they think they're doing the best for you you then go into what's called the education system it's it's it's a it's a perceptual programming operation it's psychological warfare on the young and from the age of three four right up through your formative years into your teenage years day after day after day after day you are being given the official version of everything official version of science and medicine of politics of everything all the way through your formative years and it's what i call the postage stamp consensus it's a very narrow band of possibility and if you're going to pass exams you have to tell the system that that postage stamp perception of possibility that you've been told is reality is reality otherwise you're not going to pass your exams because what are exams that it's the system saying you tell me what i've told you and i'll give you a prize you tell me what i've not told you because you've got a mind of your own and you're questioning it and i'll ring your mom and dad and say you're a disruptive influence in the classroom right and we'll see what ritalin will do to that right this is all over the world and then having having downloaded this program of perception of normal the postage stamp reality you then go out into the institutions you become a journalist a doctor a a scientist a someone in the corporate world a politician and you've taken with you this core download of the perception of normal and how things are and so these institutions are all controlled by this perception and then they confirm to each other this perception's true if you're a scientist and you don't stick to the scientific orthodoxy then you lose your grants and you become ridiculed by your profession if you're a doctor and you don't go along with the orthodoxy you you lose the right to practice even though it might be very effective what you're doing if you're a journalist you won't last long if you go against the orthodoxy and then all all underpinning this you've got peer pressure all the people who've been through the sausage machine that you've been uh through who have um decided that they will accept that version of normal they then police everyone else that wants to question that normal so you're ridiculed or condemned um by your peers if you question what they have accepted without question and i've used this analogy um a number of times i think it's very accurate we laugh at sheep because sheep follow the one in front and and and follow the uh the shepherd one shepherd follow the shepherd and anyone that that goes out online the sheepdog's there woof woof fear fear fear and we laugh at sheep oh they're so stupid humans have out sheep the sheep we've dispensed with a bloody sheepdog we keep each other in line by ridicule and condemnation for the crime of being different or questioning the norm and how has anything ever moved forward in the entirety of human history ironically people questioning the norm because if you don't question the norm you go to into an eddy or vortex and you go round and round and round and nothing moves on and nothing expands but that's the idea you cannot control a population of critical thinking free thinking people questioning people in the way that you can control a population that just accepts uh like a sponge uh the official version of everything and thanks to the alternative media although i have a you know i don't think most of the alternative media goes even nearly far enough most of it's not actually alternative but mainstream light but even so um thanks to that um and and and this um availability in the last few years of alternative narratives to world events etc people have started now to question more than ever before when the government comes out and says this is what happened it's the russians um more and more people like never before are going well hold on a minute is it where's the evidence and i'll tell you when you ask that question where's the evidence there's usually silence coming back and you know there was a it with this incident in um in salisbury um with the um the nerve agent and the uh the russian double agent working for british intelligence all used to anyway there was a wonderful line from theresa may the british prime minister that encapsulated what i'm talking about and how this perceptual download this perceptual um programming is supposed to work she said with no evidence whatsoever there is no alternative to the conclusion that the russians were involved now of course there were there are endless other alternative possibilities but that's what this whole programming is about to get people to believe there is no alternative to the conclusion that what we're telling you is true anyone else tells you that it's not true conspiracy theorist um and and what people like me are saying is we're not having it we're not going to accept the fish if the official story stands up to scrutiny fair enough if it doesn't and it usually doesn't then that's not fair enough but what the silencing of freedom of speech is all about is to stop people having access to that alternative narrative to the official one and uh people like me won't have it not quietly anyway well sitting here listening to you has just almost put a mirror in front of my face in your way of saying it which is why i love being an entrepreneur whatever one defines that as i define it as being creative waking up today wanting to do something meaningful and being able to do it without anyone getting in my way without regulation or too much of it you know we need some don't we to stay safe um and yeah when you run your own ship like you do with your message you know you're not employed by anyone as it seems no um then you can put the work out that you want to put out and you can make the difference to the world that you want to make and um yeah i suppose that takes a little bit of courage and bravery because when you do that the system is going to say hey wait a minute you should do like this women you should do like this um so i'll come back to that in a minute because i just want there was something i've really thought of and i wanted to make a couple of suggestions for you for you to keep getting your work out there and to the listeners and because i found linkedin i don't know if they've strategically gone oh look what facebook have done we'll have everyone but they seem to be doing the opposite where they're letting you get much more expanded reach i mean i've been playing with some of my content on there and it's being i get 250 000 views in a day on something and i'm not as big as you in terms of my following and i wouldn't normally get that so they're clearly letting it go right um and i don't feel like my the reach is being played with it seems to be pretty consistent so that's one thing i just uh second thing is i we were talking about this on the way down you should have a podcast i mean the great but no one seems to control a podcast joe rogan's got one he says and does what he wants 100 million downloads a month and it's like it's like they can't be police they can't be controlled because you own the back end audio and then okay itunes will syndicate it and stitch your syndicate and pod venus indicate it wherever else but but you own this asset which doesn't seem like it can be controlled or doctored or manipulated and um you know my podcast has nearly two million um subscriptions and it's got i'm just a little guy doing a little thing you know and it's helped me get out to the world so i guess i'm saying that because if people feel like you that the bigger media i'm putting over here obviously you've got google up on you um if they feel that um i've got my website okay so they feel like google and facebook i'm not here knocking those by the way but i'm just saying if they feel google youtube facebook are starting to police reduce your freedom of speech have the evil doctor evil press button no you can't you should come no you got and you don't like that i think these are the platforms like linkedin and pogba yeah i mean you know my sons who who run the organization of my work um they are they are they are they are doing this now um because we we have to respond to to to what is happening um but there are great opportunities for entrepreneurs uh who believe in freedom um to to re replace or offer alternatives to these platforms other people are starting to do it um but it it the more that we can have the better because um this i i in my new book uh everything you need to know but i've never been told i talk about the fact that youtube was demonetizing alternative content and of course the alternative media i mean i write books and stuff so i'm not dependent on youtube but a lot of alternative people became dependent on youtube monetizing their videos to to make more videos and i said in the book that that's only stage one the next stage is they start deleting channels and of course now they're deleting channels um on a very very large scale worldwide so this is not something that's that's going to happen over a long period of time that's what i'm saying so there is a very urgent need and a massive uh potential audience for um platforms of if you like social communication and videos for people that really believe in in not censoring and you know yes the big companies uh will go the way of the system i mean this i i actually love it when uh out of nowhere um major corporations got together and said to google you're talking about youtube you're putting our adverts against uh uh hateful videos and and and you must stop it and they all got together and said you know all these ethical companies you know that have the best interest of humanity at art while they're screwing them day by day by day right it's all orchestrated um and so google b-movie actors said oh no we better take the adverts down then which just happened to be on the alternative media uh channels um and um that was how the demonetization started and then once you once you started you roll it out even more and now there's virtually virtually none on google for anyone with an alternative view but people still have to sell things yeah and there there is a an advertising quote market out there for a large audience platform and if people um would go down that road um there are great financial opportunities for them as well as the main reason for my point of view which is having the ability to communicate information uncensored because the more uncensored information circulates the more the system of control will fall because its whole foundation its whole way of surviving is to keep from its target population what it is doing how it is doing it and to what ultimate end so do you regard yourself in any way as a businessman or an entrepreneur it seems to me like the more you resist these things you stand against the bigger and more powerful and more successful you become are you aware of that dynamic going on no i'm not i'm not an entrepreneur i spend my life researching information and communicating information my sons jamie and gareth who run the organization of everything they um work to get my information out there and they can be very creative at it and they have to be very creative at it because of all the pressures to to to stop it um so that that's the way i work i i don't have anything to do with that side of things at all i just deal with the information in fact you know there was a time when i did it all right i did it all you know everything and including writing all the books and and everything but now as my sons have got involved in recent years it's freed me from all the other side of it so i just focus on the information and and it's been incredibly effective both in in the information i've been able to to uncover because i've had more time and also in the the fact that they um they have been excellent in um in the way that they have um they have organized um the communication of it and is that just to free up your time or is that because you don't really enjoy the more commercial aspect or is that because they're good at the commercial aspect or is that because you wanted your family involved no um it it's because a they're good at it um and b i am i have no interest in it whatsoever all the commercial side of it and what have you i have no interest in that whatsoever i just want to uncover the information and communicate it but you're quite right in the world that we live in you have to have an organization around you that a can provide the opportunities to communicate the information you're uncovering and also to make sure that um there is money there to finance what you're doing you know we we do our own events and and it's a heck of a lot of money has to go out before any comes back um when when you are printing books and what have you as a hell of a lot of money goes out before it comes back and you know people can see the cover price of a book but you know we don't get anything like that because because it goes through distributors it goes through shops and there's all the shipping so so yeah so at printing exactly and and so um you have to have an organization like that that's sound otherwise the the point of everything which communicated the information just to stops so but but that's not my side of things i don't i don't enjoy that sure but i i do you embrace it don't let me um give the impression that i don't like uh business and i don't like entrepreneurs quite the opposite um you know a microphone for instance is neutral it's what you use it for that makes it positive or negative same with a notebook same with a printing press same with a computer same with the world of the entrepreneur you can use that creative business acumen um seeing opportunities and exploiting them in a way that's very beneficial for the world or you can do it like the giant corporations which is a hijacking the wealth therefore the power in the world in the hands of fewer and fewer and fewer people and you know one of the things i've been talking about for decades now and and i gave it the name at one point the hunger games society it's a structure um which you can symbolize as a pyramid where at the top of the pyramid you have this one percent actually it's less than one percent at the core at the bottom of the pyramid you have the rest of humanity that not in the one percent and one percent of of of um hijacked by this point all the wealth of the world basically and therefore they're calling all the shots and between the um controlled masses and the one percent is a merciless police military state to hold that status quo um and when you um when you look at the way society is going day after day after day you can see that happening you've got the police state and the police military state emerging more and more the surveillance state that's all part of this middle strata to um impose the will of the one percent on the masses of of the people you've got more and more uh uh people other levels of income um that are being touched by this um austerity you you've now got the so-called middle classes being targeted and finding it harder and harder to um to financially uh survive you got more and more people falling into the lower strata more and more homelessness etc uh more and more lower wages and at the top you've got this incredible concentration of wealth thus power into the hands of fewer and fewer people to the point now where vast amounts vast percentages of the world's wealth are actually held by single-digit numbers of people and this is the hunger games society unfolding and so you know we can we can look at the the pressures um on freedom of speech but entrepreneurs that want to use their skills and use their ingenuity to challenge that hunger games structure with freedom and with a a great a greater expansion and distribution of wealth they're also finding themselves targeted by the system with regulation and you can't do this and what have you because anything whether it's freedom of speech or whether it's entrepreneurs that are doing things that are undermining the emergence of this hunger games uh society pyramid they're all being uh targeted um and so it it it's going to be a challenge to take it on it is a challenge to take it on but you know what did i just say one percent or less than one percent and the one percent can only have the power they have because a they control the money systems and control governments but also because that middle strata of the police military state who are made up of people from the population police that population to the benefit of the one percent when they start to realize that actually their families are um being affected by this their children and grandchildren have to live in the world that they're helping to bring in by protecting the one percent interest from the interest of the masses then the whole pyramid will fall and um you know i'm more confident than i've ever been that that pyramid will fall but it won't fall on its on its own we've got to start getting engaged okay so let's come back to that i'd like to explore you a little bit more david if that's all right so um you said earlier you you can't walk down the street without getting laughed at i couldn't i can now okay so let's get stopped in the street and talk talk to very seriously now about what's going on in the world it's been dramatic transformation but it once was like that absolutely okay so i'd like to talk about both of those okay so more extreme scenarios so first when that happened how did it make you feel and how did you deal with it and cope with it and carry on doing your work despite all this ridicule something inside of me told me this was leading somewhere and that if i kept going then that somewhere would emerge and when you go through the level of ridicule that i did in the early mid 90s one of two things happens either it destroys you and you withdraw from the world or you let go of the prison that most people live in which is the fear of what other people think most people are not living their lives they're not living who they are they're living what they think others think they should be and therefore um they're living a lie they're living someone's else's version of them what happened to me as a result of that massive ridicule is that i let go of the fear of what other people thought and when you do that it's indescribable what that does because no more mental gymnastics before you open your mouth what do i say here hello hello darling yeah i'm in the middle of an interview would you like to be part of it [Laughter] no all right that's that's good i will all right darling see you later bye no you were very good you were very good bye um what um what i did was let go of that fear of what other people thought of me and it's the freedom is indescribable because like i say you you don't have the mental gymnastics how do i put this so they won't think i'm crazy what do i leave out so they won't think i'm crazy you reach this point where this is me and i don't give a damn if you think i'm crazy so how did you do that well it's it's it's something that comes from letting go of the fear of what other people think you know um i mean if you ask people to to write down say their top five fears all over the world invariably um but the vast majority would include speaking in public right what is speaking what is the fear of speaking in public it's the fear of what other people think ridicule shane yeah it's the fear of what other people think so when you stand on a stage if you fear what other people think you can be nervous because the power dynamic is with the audience because they are going to decide if you feel secure or not so you're scanning the audience as you're speaking and you're looking for reaction what do they think of it that power is there once you let go of the fear of what other people think you can speak to a hundred people or a million people it doesn't matter because the dynamic has changed the dynamic now says this is my truth and i respect your right to make of it what you will and come to your own conclusion but this is my truth and your reaction is not going to affect my truth so however you you react to what i'm saying whether you like it whether you laugh at it or whether you um condemn it it doesn't matter to me because it's my truth and i have a right to speak it i my truth and my security is not dependent on other people's um reaction to me that's their i completely respect their right to respond as they choose but i have a right to not to be affected by it and so in that way you can um you can get ridiculed in the street and it don't really affect you you just shake your head and and walk on and sometimes it's kind of it's an interesting kind of interesting experience really sometimes do you have a bite well what one very rarely i have uh long ago but one of the things one of the things i have done when people have been laughing at me yeah they're blowing it i've stopped and i've started laughing at them and pointing at them if i've got someone with me look you want to see absolutely anger on their faces and the indignation and you think hold on a minute i'm just mirroring you back at you you know and that's an interesting point about you know human interaction when when we um when we say something about someone or do something about someone we we think that that's making a statement about the someone it's not every time it's making a statement about us by what we are by what we say and what we do and but people don't see that and this is why people don't see so often that they are mirrors of that they rail against you know if you take if you take this progressive mentality like i say i'm not talking about liberal mentality i'm a liberal if you look at the definition of um the dictionary definition of liberal it is someone who believes in maximum freedom of speech maximum freedom of lifestyle yeah maximum freedom of um of everything um but a progressive mentality which they actually call liberal it's stunning believes in the opposite of that so you have people who rail against the system who think they are anti-establishment who are actually doing exactly what the establishment wants which is to silence the population when you've got the progressive anti-establishment mentality saying to government he must be silenced he must be she must be silenced and the government and the corporate world and the establishment are going yes we would be delighted to do that and and so it's a it's it's it's this mirror this this inversion where people perceive themselves in a certain way but actually act in a way that's the very same as that they rail again so they'll talk about fascists but we're angiofascists all right you're anti-fascists right so what do you want to do we want to silence these people that's what fascists do you know they can't see it that's the problem this i've i've gone through this struggle in my life david a little bit where um when i was young i was very overweight and i didn't really feel like i fit in um and i was a bit slow on being liked and that seemed to build a bit of a need in me to be liked which i started overcompensating for you know as i grew up i understand that and and i think it's only been the last few years i've really started to go you know this is me this is who i am um and sort of i still think it's there but i think it's like it's ma i'm managing it better i have felt found like you i like you visibly lifted when you said it was like when you said it's liberating and freeing it was like you exercised something from you and i just know how amazingly more impactful and happy and confident people would be if they stopped worrying about what everyone thought about them and i really want to dig in this because i don't know if you were able to do it through some introspection or i don't know if unless you were forced to do it because it was like you said hide away and yeah i don't exist in the world because they've beaten me or one day you thought this is enough enough is enough so what what could you say to other people who are a bit overly worried about what people think to help them get rid of it well first of all if you have people around you who so disrespect your right to be you that they give you a hard time for being you then what are you doing with them you know there's loads of other people out there that will respect you go and find them don't don't surround yourself with people that don't respect your right to be you i don't care if they're family i don't care who they are if they don't respect your right to be you then what you're doing interacting with them all the time it's gonna it's just gonna make you depressed it's gonna make you frustrated walk away and if they if they then come round great but if they don't well equally great you know it's like kids i i see this thing with parents you know i've spoken to um to people in their 60s who are still feeling guilty for not doing with their lives what their parents wanted them to do oh you know i wanted to go walking in india but my mother wanted me to be a lawyer i don't like the law but you know i had to do it no you didn't have to do it you know if your mother would want wants to be a lawyer she could go be a bloody lawyer if you want to walk in india go walk in india and if you're a mother i don't care all these staff oh but she's me i don't care you you will only express your true unique self if you refuse to let anyone impact and suppress that expression of your true unique self and the number of people the number of parents who and i think this is child abuse frankly who want to live their lives through their uh through their uh children who want to um get kudos through their children you know i was in america once and and i saw this um this sticker at the back of a car my daughter won this so-and-so for a degree in college and i'm thinking yeah your bloody daughter did it mate you didn't bloody do it what are you doing trying to trying to get you know live through your children congratulate your children yeah but looking for the kudos oh yeah my son's gone going to oxford my daughter's going to cambridge all really though you are a successful family her son wants to go walking in india you know a daughter wants to be a nurse but they go to university because mother says so father says so the number of people i mean it's not even rare the number of parents particularly the ones with with more money therefore more influence and access to these educational institutions the number of them that impose their will on their children because it suits them and not their children is absolutely disgusting and what it's doing it's turning out very frustrated very distorted people who are who are living a life they don't want to live and i'll say this to people are you happy are you fulfilled do you get up in the morning and say new day if not why not make a list why am i not happy why don't i have joy in my life why don't i wake up in the morning and say yeah new day what are the things that make me uh not feel like that what are the things that would make me feel like that okay stop doing them and do them and refuse to compromise on stop doing them and doing them take control of your life and you know if you go deeper into it this is this is that this is the area that that is is my great passion my great love my i wha what i absolutely um love researching and gaining understanding in the nature of reality itself we live in a um equivalent of a wi-fi internet field i call it the cosmic internet uh it's it they're quantum fields of possibility and probability waiting to manifest i've got a computer here and what appears on that screen is dictated by what part of the internet i access that dictates what appears on that screen in the same way what part of these quantum fields of possibility and probability i access and turn into experience in a way i'll describe in a second dictates what appears on my screen in other words dictates my own life experience if you live your life within the parameters and the program of the postage stamp consensus then you are interacting with this quantum field of possibility and probability in a very narrow band of frequency so the potential you have to manifest experience in your life and achievement if you like for a word in your life is limited by that once you expand your self-identity as i'll come to in a second and your consciousness expands you and your your sense of the possible expands you're now interacting with this quantum field of possibility and probability in a much vaster swathe and therefore your potential for manifestation of experience for manifestation of achievement for manifestation of the world the life you want becomes massively uh expanded um take the chinese internet it is firewalled off so that chinese people can only ex access a fraction of the internet symbolic of this postage stamp consensus mentality but beyond those firewalls is a vastness of possibility with the internet that they never see information they never um access and what dictates our interaction with this possibility and probability is our self-identity seems to me if you believe that you are little me and have no power um then that manifests itself as the frequency band you're operating on and it's very narrow coming back to the simplest analogy it's someone who sees the glass half empty or the glass half full that's the completely different perception of the same situation and what will come from those two perceptions will be very different experiences of that glass um compared with the other and for me we have got core and this is this is the very foundation of the uh perceptual manipulation we have got caught in the illusion systematically that what we are experiencing is who we are people self-identify with their labels i am i am a man i am a woman i am black i am jewish i am muslim i am this i am that and if you look at political correctness and this whole transgender uh explosion yeah go on do it say what you want don't even stop no we'll be another two hours don't start me off um because that's that's a complete scam it's not about um just a very quick aside it's not about um respecting um people who who feel they're in the wrong body it's not it's not about that that's just the excuse um it's about divide and role we now have feminists and transgender people in conflict it's another fault line but there's many really very much more to it than that and it goes very deep um but what that's doing if you if you look at it it's creating subdivisions and subdivisions and subdivisions of self-identity we're now in terms of looking at self-identity we're looking down the wrong end of a freaking telescope they're getting minutes imr lgb blah blah blah blah and what it's doing every time you um subdivide into a in a smaller perception of self you are getting further and further and further away from the true self which is consciousness consciousness that's having that experience when people have near death experiences and leave the body and suddenly experience a vastly different reality they've left the body so what has left the body consciousness their point of awareness we we are in our prime form a state of awareness a state of being aware what the body does i call it a biological computer is it when when we experience through the body when that consciousness experiences through the body the body focuses the attention of that consciousness in a tiny band of frequency known as visible light which is so tiny it's laughable and that's all that we can see we don't actually live in a world we live in a band of frequency and beyond that frequency is infinity which we can't see you know if you tune to radio one you tune a radio to radio one or a television channel television to bbc one that's what you get you don't get bbc two that doesn't exist to bbc one you don't get radio two that doesn't exist to radio one you get radio one and so the body is tuning us and focusing our attention in a narrow band of frequency it's an experience and and these experiences are given labels like christian white black brown jewish islam hindu right what happens is and this is what the program encourages of course is people self-identify with those labels and they say that is me i am my income bracket i am my life story i am my race i am my culture no no they are what your consciousness is experiencing your point of attention and you know you mister islamic man and you mr jewish man are you mr christian man you missed a white man you missed a black man you missed an asian man you're all points of attention of the same infinite consciousness and because you have become so programmed to believe that your labels are you you are fighting each other for power to hold on to an identity to hold on to to impose in many ways an identity that is merely a an illusion of incredibly short experience when you when you leave the body your conscious leaves the body at a near-death experience for instance and i've read endless accounts all over the world people the common themes are incredible um they don't say oh i'm out of the body now um but i'm still i'm still a muslim i'm i'm still a hindu i'm still in this i'm still at that no no they are consciousness consciousness awareness a state that's what we are and so when in the body you can stop self identifying with the labels and start to self-identify with being the consciousness everything changes because what self-identification with labels does is it focuses attention and your interaction with the cosmic field of probability and possibility is limited by that focus of attention within that frequency once you say they are my experiences i am the infinite awareness having those experiences you start to interact with possibility and probability on a vastly greater scale and suddenly life becomes an adventure suddenly your life changes people that that represent the old frequency of your life they disappear new people come in new opportunities happen amazing coincidences happen that didn't happen before oh it's a miracle fancy no it's not a miracle you're interacting with um possibility and probability on a vaster scale therefore probability and possibilities happen in a more extraordinary way than they do when you're there and this is um when you do the research and you realize what is actually manipulating this world you realize that while the vast majority of people that are making decisions every day like politicians and people etc are overwhelmingly 99.999 clueless about reality as are most scientists vast majority of scientists and doctors and all of them deep in the shadows out of the public arena where it's all coming from they understand how this works they know that if they can hijack your perception they can hijack your experience by this feedback interaction between your perception which creates your frequency band of interaction with the cosmic field of possibility and probability the more they can contract our sense of self the more they can control our life experiences and suppress it to the point where we're no problem to them um have you ever had any of those experiences yeah i had it i did that once in 2003 in brazil um not done it before not did it since but i had a fantastic experience yeah um i was writing a book um in 2001 2002 about the um the world traced a disaster at 9 11. and it was all about how the official narrative is it it's a joke frankly i mean it's the most ludicrous story because if that's true that can't be true if that's true that can't be true none of it fits anyway and look what it's what what 911 has justified ever since when i was writing that book i thought you know if i'm going to um if i'm going to take this on i i need to get out there um and see this world from another perspective not in some dream where you wake up and you think was that a dream was that real but actually where you consciously experience it synchronistically this is what happens when you start expanding your interaction with the field of possibility um i i then got invited to go to a brazilian rainforest and take part in an ayahuasca week i could have taken it four times took it twice had a fantastic experience and on the second night particularly i spent five hours having this very clear took a female form female voice as loud as mine is now and very very funny give me chapter and verse on the fact that this reality we think is so real is just an illusion that there is no physical right and that the world we think we're experiencing outside of us not outside of us at all it gave me chapter and verse on it and i had instant total recall of all of it afterwards so i came back was it a fantastic experience what was fantastic about it because it was rewriting um the human perception of the reality we're experiencing and it was doing it in such a uh a persuasive way that made total sense and then i came back and i um started looking at what i was told and i realized that see you you look at mainstream science series of disciplines not only few of them talk to each other but a lot of them are in con petition with each other for funding and prestige but when you actually break it down and you connect the dots especially in the areas of quantum physics i realize that actually if you put the dots together what this um voice was telling me in the brazilian rainforest in this ayahuasca perceptual state had already been established right and i've gone down this road big time since 2003 when this happened and everything that i've discovered every new scientific discovery in the realm of quantum physics for instance has further confirmed what i was told that night because we live we live the we live our lives as if this world is solid and is outside of us well quantum physics has shown it's not solid i mean we are told that um the physical world is made up of atoms atoms have no solidity you know um an atom is um a nucleus with electrons flying around it the distance within an atom um between the nucleus and the electrons and um well let's put it in a simple way if a um an atom was the size of a cathedral the nucleus would be the size of a 10 cent piece atoms have no solidity whatsoever and if you go deep enough into the nucleus and the electrons they have no solidity either so we're being told that this physical world which isn't is made up of atoms and atoms have no solidity how is that possible it's possible because the world isn't solid the base form of this reality is exactly in principle like a wi-fi field it's waveform information fields right this is the quantum field of possibility and probability the body as i've been calling it for decades is a biological computer in its base state it too is a is a waveform information field what the five senses do is take waveform information take the ears that's an obvious one and they turn it into electrical information and they communicate that to the brain and then the brain then decodes that electrical information into holographic and digital information inside the brain which we experience as a world outside of us it exists visually it exists in a small area of the back of the brain that decodes visual reality other parts of the brain decode hearing and touch and taste etc and smell and together the brain fits that together into an experience that appears to be outside of us you know um the old question does a falling tree make a noise only if you hear it that sounds weird we talked about because of this reason when a falling tree falls doesn't make a noise what it does is disturb the air disturbs the waveform field which sends out vibrations vibrations are picked up by the ears communicated electrically to the brain which decodes them into the sound of a tree falling a tree falling only makes the noise when we hear it i'm talking to you now and what i'm communicating to you is a waveform feel generated by my vocal cords and words are not passing between you and me waveform frequency fields are passing between you and me they're picked up by your ears communicate it to your brain electrically and it decodes those waveform fields into the words that you are hearing we are are living a complete and utter illusion of reality you know people say well you know they've got to be physical because you can't walk through the wall well if you're of the right frequency that's different to the wall yes you can i mean things go through walls frequencies go through walls because the frequency that goes through the wall is so different to the frequency of the wall that it can pass through and when we um have a a resistance which we experience in the decoded world of holographic illusion as a physical exist resistance that is an electromagnetic resistance at the waveform level of reality it's all illusion all this was explained to me over this five hours by this uh voice in brazil who actually opened up by saying this basically you're going to be told the nature of reality but all you really need to know is infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion and it repeated it infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion the illusion that has that has stopped us understanding our true nature which is consciousness is what creates the division the chaos the conflict the hatred and stops as being what we truly are which is incarnate love that's what we we supposed to be not love in the sense of um you know i saw you down the disco uh the fancier darling love you darling all that stuff no it's love it under the way we have so um misrepresented what love is we have to put words in front of it now like like unconditional love and what have you but it is it is a state of of of harmony a state of being a state of compassion a state of empathy um and when we are in that state there is no disharmony but when you when you fall for the illusion of what i call the phantom self the name of one of my books where we self-identify who we are with the labels then the force manipulating human society can play those labels off against each other and create divide and rule and conflict which is what it does and through this subdivision and subdivision of the minuti of self-identity it's doing it on an ever greater scale when you self-identify with being a point of attention within infinite awareness and i look at you and i know that you are a point of attention within the same awareness and so are you and so are you and so is everybody else then we we we view each other in a completely different way no long no longer do we need to compete no no longer do we need to to manipulate no longer do we need to trash no longer do we need to cuss and kick and fight to get to the top of the greasy pole the greasy pole for what the greasy pole within this infinitesimal section of time we call a human life when what we are infinitely is consciousness and we have to fight each other and punch each other and kick each other to get the top of a greasy pole in this tiny uh segment of life or time we call life even times an illusion by the way um and but you do have to be so yeah about 15 years within within within the perception of this reality time exists within this perception of this reality when you created when i think it's been created for us that's another whole interview yeah but when when people leave the body in a near-death experience and they go to a point where they become consciously consciousness a state of awareness then time as we experience it here does not exist um and if you think about time people think there's a past and there's the future but there's only a now there's only there's only a now moment and so that's very difficult for people to to grasp at first because they think well i've been there and i'm going there but hold on a minute um when you're thinking of the past where are you you're in the now when you're worrying about the future where are you you're in the now and when what we call the future becomes an experience it's experienced in the now there's only the now so time is an illusion too but we we use time so that we can operate within this reality but again it's part of the illusion it's part of the um the reality that people think is real but isn't and you know if you kind of think about it if you are a tiny group of people deep in the shadows who understand the nature of reality the illusory nature of reality how people interact with reality how perceptions of people become their experience cause and effect just think of the magnitude of power that gives you over the target population this is why mainstream science is so controlled so that it doesn't go down these roads i mean you know you talk to most scientists although quantum physics has shown this to be true and they have to acknowledge quantum physics exists because it does they crack on in their own disciplines as if quantum physics doesn't exist as if the whole thing's bloody solid and real i mean you look at you look at um you look at medicine medicine treats the body as if the body is a solid reality with the scalpel in the drug but the body is just a decoded projection of waveform energetic fields and if that energetic field is in harmony the body has to be in harmony it has to be healthy because the body that we see is just a holographic decoded projection of the waveform field of information if that waveform field of information becomes disharmonious which emotion can do this is why stress causes illness which fear can do which anxiety can do which radiation fields can do which wi-fi can do then that distortion of the waveform field of the body becomes expressed in the projection decoding projection of what we call the physical body and therefore we have disease dis-ease disharmony illness which is why the alternative methods of healing going way way back whether it's acupuncture all of it focus on healing the waveform level of the body the energetic level of the body knowing that if that's right this must be right because mainstream medicine within this five sense postage stamp prison that it operates in does not accept the waveform level of the body and only accepts this level which it can see touch and taste etc what can it do but try to treat what it can see with the scalpel and the drug which is why it causes such mayhem to the point where the biggest cause of death in america now is the treatment staggering but true and so what alternative practitioners say is mainstream medicine only treats the symptom it doesn't treat the cause but if mainstream medicine will not accept the existence of the waveform field level of the body which is which is where the cause comes from it's only left with treating the symptom which is the expression of a problem in the waveform field being decoded into the holographic field of the body so you look at science you look at medicine that uh journalism like i say all of it politics they're all living on this postage stamp oh we're a left-wing political party okay you're on the left of the postage stamp oh where are you okay you're on the right of the postage stamp and but no one's off the postage stamp and therefore society is living in this bubble of unreality this bubble of complete misunderstanding of the very reality we're experiencing and it's kind of sobering to think that science politics medicine all of it journalism decisions being made all the time about what happens to the world and what happens here and what happens there are all being made by people who are absolutely clueless about the very reality they are experiencing they are making laws making decisions based on the world being solid and real when it's not is it any wonder that the world is chaotic and a place of utter madness how could it not be how could it not be understanding the reality that we're experiencing is fundamental to everything how can how can we understand anything if we don't understand the the very reality we're experiencing and you know when you perceive the world to be solid and physical what comes from that virtually everything is impossible well that's not possible that's not possible that's not possible once you realize that the world is malleable because it's just the decoded expression of a malleable information waveform field then suddenly what is possible absolutely explodes and so much is um is waiting to be discovered or waiting to be unsuppressed better way of putting it that would set this world free and create a paradise which it could be instead of a prison which it is because the knowledge that i'm talking about is suppressed and so you have people who are a point of attention within infinite awareness that are all that is has been and ever can be and you ask them who you are who they are and they will say i'm ethel i work on the checkout at tesco that's who i am no it's not that's the experience you're having at the moment but it's not who you are but if you think that's what you are how are you going to live your life i have no power what can i do and that's what the system wants and that's why it wants to put us in these perceptual prisons i refuse to go there thank you very much all right so that's question one so i really wanna um respect your time we've got maybe five to ten minutes left how about we have a little bit of fun and do something different and like maybe a quick fire round there i lost like five or six questions uh well yes yeah we'll publish you yeah all right so quick fire maybe try and give 10 20 seconds so i'm something i'm inspired with about you is how prolific you are with your work you've done like five books in two or three years how are you so prolific with your work how do you get so much out there having so many books i just sit down here and write them um and sit here until they're finished and what happens is that um i'll set out with a kind of an idea because i'll never write a book unless i'm going to take it further and it usually ends up very different to how it started out because the the information comes to you and the synchronicity comes to you information comes to you in synchronistic ways you know over a period of days you might have a new a new subject come into your life out of nowhere and suddenly you you're coming across information about that subject from everywhere this has happened to me for 30 years and some of the books have been written and so um there is another force at work there's no doubt about it yeah okay great so you've had you it could be perceived that you've had um quite varied careers you started with football got your arthritis then of course your tv presenting and various different things that you've done of course your career now would you say you've reinvented yourself you've definitely adapted very well in different areas of your life what's your thoughts about how you've had different careers no it's been a journey and it's been a journey looking back that has been incredibly synchronistic i grew up in on a council estate in leicester where people didn't expect much more than go and work in a factory if they could get a job because there were factors in those days and um and they they they thought you know small and because that's that's what they were that's their perception of what their life was because they were working class uh i never accepted that i i wanted to be a footballer uh people said oh you never be a footballer how many people are footballers i thought i'm going to be a footballer and i became a footballer and again through a synchronistic bits of quote luck that were that were amazing that i ended up there but then i then at the age of 21 um uh so so my childhood was about i'm not accepting the norm immediately i'm not accepting this is this is what my life's gonna be i'll decide what my life's gonna be um i then um uh went to um uh went went to uh uh play football and i got rheumatoid arthritis i had to finish at the age of 21. and that was a tremendous um opportunity for me to overcome massive disappointment um to overcome the sense of oh i'm a victim and saying no no i'm not and i thought what am i going to do now and i've always been interested in journalism as a kid i used to read papers a lot i want a front grandstand bbc show there used to be a sports show and people say you've never frank grandstand i'm going to front grandstand and and again i went into journalism and papers and radio and stuff bits of luck and synchronicity i ended up fronting grandstand and then i um started to um i get get sick of television i found it sick of fantic i i found it you know it was up its own backside i i lost interest in it once i achieved it i lost interest in it i got interested in in the in the environment and um amazing synchronicity over a period of eight weeks or so um took me from joining the green party in the 1980s to being a national spokesman i mean it was just bizarre the speed of it and what happened and that gave me an insight into politics and i re i could see what politics really was with waste of freaking space it's not going to change anything um and then um the journalism gave me an insight into journalism in into the media it gave me the ability to write um simply uh uh sometimes complex things because that's the only way you've got to get them in the paper or whatever and so by the time amazing things happened to me esoterically um in the late 1980s which led me into where what i've done ever since i had this this backlog or this this back story of experience in the very areas that i needed it to to do what i do now and so when i look back i don't see i don't see jumps i see a progression okay and it was like um you've um you've experienced this you've got what you need for it now something else it was like some other force has been opening and shutting doors in the maze to take me through and funnily enough where this whole thing started which led me to what i'm doing now was working for the bbc at the time um was that uh i was having strange experiences over the period of a year when i was in a room alone it felt like there was something else there some presence i wasn't alone and it built up and built up and built up and built up but eventually long story short i went to see a psychic for the first time in my life not telling her anything just just seeing if she'd pick up what the hell was going on around me and um she goes into psychic mode and says that i'm gonna go uh and she knew nothing about about what was happening to me and um she said there's there's uh there's there's a a basically a force uh trying to uh communicate with you through me and what they're saying is that basically you've been guided through all these different experiences and all these different careers because to be led to this this moment and this was in march 1990 and from now on you're going to go out in a world stage and reveal great secrets you're going to face enormous opposition but we will always be there to protect you and that there is a vibrational change coming that is going to awaken humanity from its slumber because there's a story that has to be told uh from its from its coma um and and many many other things every single one of which by now has either happened or is happening and uh and so when i when i look at my life um from the perspective of now just coming up to 66 but that's just a number anyway um i see that it's been um a process and one of the things that i was told through this psychic in 1990 is all this has been planned before you even came so where it ends we'll see where it ends but where it's gone so far is exactly where i was told it would go nearly 30 years ago wow would you say you're a controversial figure yes contrarian well controversial yes well in in in a world of madness what is the point of of not being controversial to a world of madness you know i mean you know in a world of madness uh being called mad is is a compliment you know what i mean so i am controversial and but it's amazing how little it takes to be controversial today it's like all well said um you know um it basically in in an authoritarian world um telling the truth is a is a is a highly controversial thing he said different words but that that was the theme and um of course a revolutionary act he called it telling the truth is a revolutionary act um in a world of deceit so of course i'm controversial if i wasn't i wouldn't be doing what i do sure your best and worst advice you've ever been given if you can think of something um best advice my father when i was a kid he said david you're never finished until you tell yourself you finished it doesn't matter what anyone says about you doesn't matter how bad things get until you accept you're finished you're never finished so that was the best advice i ever had and that came very handy when when all hell broke loose in the early 1990s um the worst advice i've ever had um i don't know try curry i think was um is one of them people love curry and they absolutely addicted to it right but not for you yeah um yeah it don't do a lot for me really you know all right and then finally uh this the key word of this podcast is disruptive yep uh what does that word mean to you um if something solidifies um it basically doesn't change um and if it's something that's not good well that's not good that it's solidified and we have a society that solidified there's so many gimmies um and what i mean by gimmies is that things are accepted as if well that's how things are and the greatest one of the greatest forms of mind control is familiarity because when something becomes familiar becomes a gimme and gimme things are not questioned they're accepted for instance um taking a child who's just come into this world at the age of three or four and putting through that sausage machine all day five days a week for all the formative years called education actually programming that's a gimme well that's how things are kids go to school yeah but take a deep breath look at its effect let's question it and when you start uh questioning the gimmies questioning the the the solidification of accepted how things are it's my daughter um perfect timing perfect timing uh i've brought up well then um of course you need to disrupt the solidification for things to be changed and and you know if you want a quiet life anything for a peaceful life then nothing's ever going to change you have to disturb things for them to change and when you disturb things they go into a state of flux before um they they reform in a different way so you can have um a perception of disturbances oh no i don't want change or you can have a perception of disturbance which is a very positive thing because unless you disturb what needs changing it won't change thank you so finally where can we follow you where can we find your books and where would you like us to go um i'd like can you just tell my daughter i'll be a second i'll be a second or pr press the the thing and let her in and have a quick one yeah um davidlike.com is my main website where there's new uh news of in putting context of the of events every day uh there that people can get the 10 hour all day talk that i did they can get the books um and they can get all the details of where i'm speaking uh just coming up now and well the tickets are all almost all gone in every city that i'm speaking that's the interest that's the change that's taking place wow david thank you very much thanks mate been a pleasure thank you

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