Darrelle Revis | Who Was Responsible For The Success In New England, Tom Brady or Bill Belichick?

okay so we get in the locker room so you know so brandon brandon come up you know he he let him breathe let him know let him know what he did so so brad come on he he and his towel and it's like he like yo you know this right and i'm like i'm like you gotta tell me what are you doing like this ain't the right timing for all of that this will go take off the towel throw it at me hey butt naked man yeah i'm like no bro what is you doing to get it wrongfully accused we had to fight to get it pills that's why we right to get a deal he on the team he gotta eat you know despite your skills riding for the fam you gotta light the wheels straight up but in the past bad work up in the trash bag i'll pass a lot to take the test before i pass class and my family needed bread i had to come correct that's why i keep airing it out like i just passed week six parley here's the three teams i am athlete we we let everybody pick it's dallas at new england that's a for sure bet kansas city at washington that's a for sure bet and green bay at chicago that's a for short bet any pushback green bay chicago kansas city washington dallas new england traditional definitely you know any any opinions there good it's more common sense than anything that's common sense anybody fight bad against that just all road teams yeah dallas on the road kansas city on the road green bay on the road dallas at new england with your dude bill belichick he gonna he'll figure out something right that's not my guy whoa no that's not my guy y'all won the super bowl together we won we won super bowl 49 but you know that's not that's not my guy [Music] do you shave your balls do you like trouble whoa no like manscape bro here do you shave your ball since we on this topic nah you don't trim bro no but thank you for the manscape so i feel like man we need to shave i mean i'd be awkward in the shower i don't know how to really shave like that's new to me so yeah i'll be in the shower sometimes like this that's right that's rookie how you shave you go front to back you know like front to back oh y'all got to teach me how do you suggest we teach you are you a visual learner well i mean what what is how you going too far i'm just you asked us i'm just making sure i'm not a visual learner look at you manscape promo code athlete what's the difference between the two wise rex your guy bill why he ain't your guy it's just it's two different coaching philosophies and you know rex is a little bit more loose you know he like dogs he wants you to go out there and play hard run into a wall that's fine but you know it's it's a lot of it's a lot of uh news going on right now with bill in terms of him and mr craft and there's a lot of stuff surfacing right now but at the end of the day um the way that he run this ship is a little bit different but i do give him credit you know for for winning so many super bowls and and um having the longevity to do it if you look at tom right now he's having the best time of his year of his career because he's in tampa he's down there having a great time and when you play with the new england patriots it's a lot of pressure every time you walk in the door because it's a lot of tension it's a lot of noise going on in the background where how how the team is ran is uh it's the unknown you just don't know you don't know what mr krabs doing you don't know what bill's doing um you just don't know and it's a lot of if you get into the the the deflate gate you know the spy gate and those things um people can look at that as cheating you know in a sense so it's tough did you enjoy your time now no i did not bro you want a damn super bowl yeah when you do it again you know i'm i'm happy for for the grind and the hustle of winning super bowl 49 but you know waking up every day and you know walking into the to the facility and having to deal with detention you know you see why they they they've been to 10 super bowls you see the hustle on the grind of it but at the end of the day there's other philosophies to win and it doesn't have to be that way i mean you got 32 teams with 32 coaches some are tense some look at things another way and there's different philosophies to win the game and when you deal when you deal with the things up there it's it's it's a little bit strenuous and nobody likes it in the locker room that's been honey nobody nobody likes it so but are you are you substituting you know walking in there in tents every day you're substituting you know winning games and that's what they that's what they sell they sell winning games up there that's what they do it works i only only know cincinnati obviously in the way we did things obviously it was a much looser environment so i've never been to the army never been to the marines but if i had to explain to people what it's like to play for the patriots it's very militant that's it on time you know discipline he has one way of doing things and his way is always one so that's what it was everybody's expendable except that one chess piece and that's 12. you know obviously now now since 12 has been going i think what two years now right right and we see wherever he goes they consistently win so now things aren't going as well so who's the master chess piece at new england was it bill over the tom tb12 i would say tb12 that was a steal for bill belichick in the patriots to draft him in the sixth round nobody never knew that tom was going to win these many uh these championships but you got to look at the hustle with tom tom is one of the most competitive you know players on that field he knows he knows how to move chess pieces on the board to answer the question is tb12 100 it's the way that it's the way that he knows how to run that offense in and out now in hindsight you got to respect bill as well it's his it's his philosophy it's the way how he wanted ran how you how you mean to tell me they they can drive up and down the field throwing out routes in the ball to the backs and be successful doing it so it it works you found you found it the one chess piece you found the franchise guy that is able to do that for you i believe it's both i ain't fred t 55 50. i'm 50 50. for me it's both of them bill found him bill was also the one coming at five in the morning and staying till 11 at night right game planning you know strategizing hey here's the tendencies of the week right every time this receiver put it right foot up this was happening i mean obviously there was other people involved so for me it should have never came to an end until tom brady said you know what i'm signing my ticket to retirement where is we gonna where is we gonna start you know ourselves start really giving the players a lot more respect you know we gotta go out there every sunday every monday night every thursday to put on that that uniform and go out there we we know more things than even some of the coaches we know more than some of those ex of how how you know how i can meet chad by the tv right now in a matter of three seconds it's angles it's it's mathematics it's things that that we we we are we study body language we study we have a doctrine in that even though we didn't go to to universities and things and such you know what i'm saying so at the end of the day i'm not i'm not taking no credit from from bill belichick and the coaching staff or whatnot but there has to be a lot more respect towards you know the player's craft mission of who we are you know i don't want to call nobody out but i played with a bunch of them and you picked off a bunch of them i played with a bunch of quarterbacks in miami if you give a chad henny or cleo lemon or a gus he said i ain't gonna call him out but did he call him green right all these people dante cold pepper and all that if you give those guys to bill belichick they do not go to 10 super bowls and i think that's what's really saying like you have knowledge but knowledge has to be translated on the field and brady was the only one that could translate that on the field bro no without tom brady bill belichick won't be bill belichick without bill belichick tom brady won't be tom brady tom brady goes to philly with andy reid it ain't six super bowls tom brady he wins two super bowls probably maybe you can't speak hypotheticals when there's a fact on what he just did he left new england went to tampa bay and did what his first year which is unheard of unless you're on a video game okay so but let's not let's let's not forget about who new system todd bowles that defense that defense look what that defense did against drew brees look what that defense did against aaron rodgers look what that defense did against patrick mahomes in the super bowl so there was more to it than just tom brady now that offense didn't get going till week 11 week 12. if we gonna be honest now so i hear what you're saying as far as he went there and won by the end of the day yeah he would have won two super bowls look at the pieces of the new england patriots every year right tom was there 20 years right yeah the pieces to that mother puzzle changed consistently year in and out what one piece never changed but they kept winning tom that one piece never changed that's right and it always equal winning no matter what they put around right so what's the reason for the winning because bill uh bill belichick smart breed hey let me go ahead reese i want read come in and talk about 16 million what did he say to you he said i'm gonna give you 14. no way i'm paying you more to tom brady he know bill know what he said let's get into that let's get into the contract that's why one of the reasons why the the relationship is a little bit severe between tom and bill because he's he actually messed up the market the quarterback market in terms of being underpaid in fact and he was he's he's been pissed off about that for a very long time so bill had a cap on him in turn in terms of him being underpaid so i thought it was him doing that to be able to put the people around him to make the team better that wasn't uh who's bill putting around randy what i mean we got to go back that was the start of it right now go ahead go ahead that was the start of it they drafted it gronk you had aaron wes but you got to go be honest but what happened what happened when randy said he wanted the ball more yeah he was out of there and and that's one of the greatest receivers ever playing the game so you looking at how are you easy how is it so much easy for you to just release him and cut him because that one piece i just talked about and i just said it everybody was expendable right everybody the reason why i had a safety blanket when i went there is because i didn't want i didn't want bill to have a lot of control so i i made sure you know my one year deal was guaranteed so you gotta you know if you're trying to you know make the right strategic moves in your career when you're actually going up there it's it's a little bit different now so you got to be on your p's and q's if you're gonna if you're gonna sign a deal with the page you know going back to when you were first drafted the chess moves that you made like lebron right tom brady's like let me straight maybe not tom strategically move this or do that just hearing you talk about that you know when you entered the league you were considered like a mercenary yeah right how did that feel because like even what you just see like i made sure my one year deal was guaranteed yeah right you always made those moves where did that come from uh just really knowing my worth knowing your value you know i had a you know i had my agents i had my team but um it's just more so just trying to think outside the box and trying to be innovative as best best i could um and it took a lot of strategy you know and i took a lot of risks like there's no way for me to you know go to tampa bay i didn't like i didn't like going to tampa you know because i knew they played a cover to shell that's not my that's not my mo that's not my forte that's i'm more of a in your face you know man-to-man coverage guy i was a little i was a little you know my my emotions was all over the place in terms of you know trying to make that transition and knowing going to a team that they play cover two shell and you know ownership is really stuck on the glazer family they really stuck on you know covered to shell because they they won the super bowl with derek brooks enough right so i knew i was there just you know being leased you know and i remember how did you make that move it wasn't really my move it was actually the jess the new york jets uh chess move in terms of me you know my i had an acl i was just coming off acl so at the end of the day um it was it was kind of war between me and them at the uh negotiation table for the last two when did they click because because this whole this whole thing about the strategic moves and you saying i gotta lock in and all did you have that out of college when did it click that this is a business bro it's no it's no kid at 18 years old that knows that tampa runs a two-shell and i'm not a cover-two cornerback like bro you let me know if i'm wrong when did it click that you knew that i can control my career i was having a conversation with prime like probably about three weeks ago you know he was just like look man like i'm proud of you you know what i'm saying because you modded your game after me you've done so much for me prime in terms of me trying to it's almost kind of like kobe trying to be jordan and i'm not saying i'm in any of those two you know air but what i'm trying to say is you know i tried to make every move that some some of the moves that prime made you know him going to him going to the 49ers him going to the cowboys so one of my plays was you know going to to new england to win it because i knew that was the only chance for me to win it so what i'm trying to figure out is were you studying who the gm's were what their goals were and how to position yourself that way i think a lot of players don't really realize that free agency is your best friend that's where that's where all the money is so yes we have relationships with certain people but that's built over time but this is the difference for those that are listening those that play defensive back understanding the skill set and the dna and the leverage he had to be able to pull that off everybody's not built like that or won't have that same mold or dna delivery pull off the leverage and hidden free agency some of those is is built over time i think mike tannenbaum he used to walk in in the hallway so i was that type of person that i was just gonna say what's up and then just build a relationship over time now is that with every team no because when free agent hits you know you got to make a move fast but the leverage comes with that as well and that's what i was saying like to the athletes now today free age free agency is your best friend you know you can you can go in free you know i know everybody wants to sometimes take stay with their hometown team and do this but free agency is is where is where the uh the jackpot is now was that your goal was your goal to to build a mound of wealth coming into the league or was it to win a super bowl was it to be a pro bowler i mean did anything stick out further than the other in terms of goals i don't think i realized that until after i started we started working on my second deal one of our one of our negotiations for my second deal there was no agents and no gm so we had to do it in the hangar down here at fort lauderdale airport because there was no agents or gm there's no representation on my end with my agents and then um it was it was still mated the negotiations so and the gm and my agent was butting heads so you know we i had to go i had to meet you know uh mr johnson and uh it was me mr johnson um uh rex you talking about you talking about johnson and johnson mr johnson you talking about the girls man i just got to make a breach just i need to know that's the johnson johnson we had to you know it was still made it at the negotiation table so we just had to we had to meet in the hangar and um i mean it was like like you were in the movie dee real you backed your private jet up here just i need to say i bro this this blew my mind and mr johnson and johnson guards man uh vaseline he backed his plane up here and y'all mesh in the hangar that's not my call it's just me showing up and and that's really hashing the numbers out in the movie american made for barry they met in the hangar you remember the hangar with the fbi agent schroeder that sound like that bro no that was real life [Music] [Applause] [Music] chef lo how you doing brother how you doing how you doing so what we got tonight we got a little indian cuisine tonight we're dealing with a tikka masala butter chicken with jasmine saffron rice topped with a little coconut sweetened coconut it's a representation of what bermuda's like so it's a big mixing pot similar to miami and that's the influence for tonight is is this chicken that's chicken i need to know that it's real chicken yeah thank you are you ocho i'm i'm not into the the fake chicken but are you ocho or are you science the funny thing is is that i think ocho is actually more science than science itself because he questions that's what science is supposed to be is questioning it's not supposed to be authority i said it said junk i think ocho is actually being more of a scientist than a lot of people who believe so you're approved do you approve of this krispy kreme donut that he had right now you approve of that you're science that's that's not science is questioning science isn't a mode of being okay right it's questioning he questions so i guess what i'm saying is is that whether we're talking about milk right or whether we're talking about fake meat right there's still a lot of marketing pushing behind either one right 100 looking good for you i mean you tell me when you when you when you drink milk do you get the bubbly guts no when i was young until junior high right tell me you know you get a little lunch at tater tots you get the milk and a little square pizza rectangle pizza right you say drink your milk it's good for your bones right you ever broke a bone i have i haven't i've never been hurt you different you know why because i drink milk milk milk god made milk for baby cows are you a baby cow no you're not you're not a baby cow he got a baby on the way right so your baby yo young ocholita ochaka ochata is gonna drink the milk from her mother no no she's not no out the womb she's breaking she's drinking babies she's breaking baby my other 85 kids had baby cow what's up what's up what's your thoughts on on uh how we approach our plate how we approach food you know you had your own experience around i want to make money off of it it's the same reason why like capitalism you know the same thing the same price for insulin the same price of a burger is the same but insulin costs a lot more you you don't get it you don't get how and backwards that is we care about health and everybody living right and eating right so if you go yeah if we go to asia let's go to there let's go to the asia let's go talk about speaking hypothetically i'm not knowing i don't have a sport we're talking about capitalism well you ain't got a passport you got a pass i'm on probation no no no ain't no no damn probation bottom line is money facts that takes fact that's what it's always been that's right and everything that's right you don't really give a that's right eating healthy i gotta ask reeves something because you talked about prime prime and sorry b i gotta give oat a little bit more love they marketed themselves ocho with the with the hall of fame jacket with the all the stuff he did he marketed himself i i don't want to say you were prime well bro it was about a five year period when i was in the league that quarterbacks didn't look your way cause you have marketed yourself better today you got kids and all that do you think you marketed yourself correctly when you were the top dog in the league i think i tried to do the best i could but playing in the market in new york city it helps you know um i just tried to do the best i could you know what what i could and one of the things was was rebus island so um that caught on and it just took off it's almost like you're in gotham city but you know if i'm the superhero of gotham city any receiver coming in town why did you dance though but you should have danced bro you should have done something now i'm not i'm not a great dancer not a dance but just something like like i'm saying i i believe i believe personally you could have capitalized on reefers island bro you could have drawn you could have had you could have had wrist tape that had an island on it that said reeve it's like but think about that if you walk if you walk out there on both his wrist tapes he got he got a circle that say revis on it and you line up in front of him he was in the new york market it's the biggest market in football so he really didn't have to do much he didn't have to do this ball just ball and that's awesome that's what he did ball sounded like a creative player man no you came up with the name it was in an interview so i just i i kind of said like you know i feel like i'm on the island and then it kind of like you know new york times they took correct yeah they took off all that stuff so it kind of it kind of like sprouted that way right and it worked that way right yeah i feel like there's a lot of people that try to become that um josh norman richard sherman even jaylen jalen is kind of just built like that he that's just who he is on the field off the field but those dudes had to curate their image outside of jalen because i truly believe that's who jalen is even like richard sherman but like the talk i got to build my brand i got to do this opposite was you just went out there and bawled right in the biggest media market and it kind of morphed into itself that's all you had to do and both of y'all know he balled cause he locked he locked both y'all down well let's talk about it i think it's different even that i know we play around about getting shut down you pit whatever but i don't think people at home and this is the first time we've been together and i get to talk about it that 2009 season do i got chills that 2009 season will never ever ever be replicated that's impossible me zero anymore i got my cleats with me too because i want my back steve smith right t.o twice calvin johnson was the randy moss too randy moss twice i don't think he was that prepared that game oh how you doing oh i just really don't i don't think you was prepared wait which one the first one the second one both the first one i shipped on the ice over there that was some boy y'all don't have no heaters all that money y'all got underneath the field oh joe you said are you making excuses yeah yeah yeah yeah like he just locked he just choked your ass to death none of that passes just before yo no i don't like it i don't like to get touched i don't like to get tough you're one of the best route runners i've recovered i studied you i studied you a while i tried some years two work notes sometimes you study for your tests in life and sometimes no matter how much you study you fail so what you gonna do that's what happened in my s.a.t that's why so i went back and took the sat again let me go watch this again i got we go out there playoff game oh i got this now we got the third quarter i'm over there and caution man what's up man threw me the ball intercepted god damn like nothing went right and this is that is just one of those moments of when those players well no matter what you do right it just don't go right but i but i've been i've been studying your way before that remember it was an off season and i asked you i said you drink you said nah man but you were smoking on a cigarette but ah i jot all that down i'm not saying that affected your game on sunday but i'm i'm i'm i'm taking notes i'm taking notes on everything he cheated man but i feel like before we before we before we move on though i feel like whether you're playing against the patriots are you playing against individual you have an individual match up you plan against greats so you go into the game thinking like man i gotta i gotta really bring it and you do a lot and that's what happens right i feel like you psych yourself out i don't know when you go against those did i talk i don't think so was i talking normal no i think you said something to me one time like what did you eat for breakfast or something that sure did i was just and i kind of looked at you like what like because i needed you to answer back to throw you off your game just a little bit just get you in converse but it didn't work ain't working nothing none of the mental gymnastics none of the games that i wanted to play work but he got to you but but but him what about him we were teammates yeah shannon we were teammates and i think he was one of the hardest receivers i ever had to cover because of his size and his speed yeah and um super intelligent too as well so i just had a hard time with trying to you know get through his big body if he was running a slant because he would just box you out and actually try to you know catch the ball but i heard you checked his ass early hey you talking about a battle you talk about competition like i mean this was legendary this is practice yeah right i'm in a prime my career he coming off a super bowl and every time we do one-on-one he will only come up really against me and maybe one other receiver that's it but we do one-on-ones in camp all the cameras out everybody's around it's a show and one day he banged up something's bothering him and i'm kind of getting the best of him a little bit facts right he get hot because i but i got respect for him because of everything like i was on that list too so every day i'm in practice every day i'm in practice all i'm thinking about is what he did to me when i was going against him on sundays every day like we got to get it if i can't get it it's somewhere huh we're going to get it on this practice field right he chilling though we go out there and i and i and i route them up right and i go back because i have respect from like i got you on that one dog but out of love like just me and him the very next play i line up sid he just he moved he just slapped me in my head [Laughter] bro i'm running i'm literally running down the field the ball is thrown i'm just like my helmet sideways i'm like i think i got a concussion bro after that i'm talking about for the next two hours all we did was fought he was determined he was determined that day like he was like we going that whatever right we we talking trash out of the huddle like in the huddle out of the huddle so i'm like i'm telling another corner look i got him yeah i'm following him in practice yeah i'm in practice right i'm like don't even be doing that you'll be chilling so i'm like so he's like nah come on line up so we going at it left and right and uh you know his wife was there too it was it was fan day so it was a lot going on it was a lot of tension and uh he got me he got me on he got me on uh there's only a couple routes no no you took it you took it to the house the one where you you ran out and then you came slipped back inside right on like this like a post it was nice it was like he got me and then he ran it all the way in so i was like okay it's i took the l for the day i took the information and and i want to add some on to to our battle we had because you know we we from we from the we from the 412 we from pittsburgh and forgiveness can be you know uh antidote you know the clearest smoke right and you know man as a brother man i just want to say you know i didn't handle that in the best situation you know and i you know i apologize to that you all here man that you approached me another way and how how it going right it was more so of me being you know super competitive uh it was it was it was it was good to finally you know have people come to new york and actually want to play in new york city because it was it was some tough times man we wasn't we wasn't always the best we and we was barely uh scratching the surface of 500. so right um you know for me man it was a lot of pressure on me you know what i'm saying of always trying to even the organization you know put hey you gotta you gotta shut brandon marshall down uh we gonna lose and it's like come on man you double them or something to do something else don't because it's going to take years off my body right that really hurt our relationship that day it did it did you know what i mean and so like years went by and we never talked right and then we ran into each other like yo what's up what's going on and it was you know what i mean we never really talked about so i appreciate that well what's up with the locker room go ahead talk about the locker room i ain't trying to i come in i come in i take a shower hold on you making all these chips with i am podcast you know you think let me tell the story okay so we get in the locker room so you know you're at your locker thinking about it getting a shower figure out so the pr comes up and they like they're like yo brandon just got done speaking to the media they want to talk to you about the battle and what happened i'm like for what i'm like what for like you know it was practice like it's been a million fights out here like like what's up with this one so i go out there and do it i come back in so brandon brandon come up you know he he he and his towel and it's like he like yo you know this right and i'm like i'm like okay you gotta tell me what you doing like this ain't the right timing for all of that so i'm like so i kind of brushed it out like no no no like bruh what is you doing so so somebody grabbed him yeah you know yeah they did no no it wasn't that like somebody grabbed him somebody stepped in front of me just for so we couldn't you know it wasn't no no but i'm so listen i have two two towels on took a shower who puts two towels on boom boom and i have one over my shoulder right that's how cause when i get to my locker i put that one down put my feet on it right i'm rocking and rolling so i walk up to reeve with one towel on my waist one towel over my shoulder i walk up to him like bro you know it's all love brothers you know i respect you so i do that to reeve and that's what reid did to me he went like this yeah i'm like yeah so you know what i'm saying like it's love that's what you how you gonna treat me that's what happened and so okay buddy as he back no not in this debate who's your ex who's your z you talked about he's the best route runner you said i was one of the top well then obviously that answers your question right there okay let's let him talk about it let's end this debate who the dog that's all you need to say who would you rather not cover when the game's on the line who are i rather not knock who who is the out of them end it bro you follow braden around right if they were on the same team who the would you follow around oh that's a good question here you go there you go that's a good question who would you follow the dog the big dog um i probably followed you i probably followed chad and you know what's gonna happen this time the third time i'm gonna be strong let me tell you i had a better game against you than you yeah yeah hey bro you crushed me wait no let me ask you a question let me tell you what would happen i got to get this off my chest you know what he's over with leave me alone this is my time if we were to meet for a third time three times is a charm that's what my mama said and when you stopped me those other two she ain't talked to me for like a month i got my cleats upstairs there's grass feel outside i just want one release just one i need some type of redemption i just need something good i just want to feel good about myself because i've been told for a decade everybody everywhere i go you still on the island i just want to i'm glad you're here i could tell you in person it was a pleasure playing you you are the best corner because people continue continuously ask me he's the best corner i've ever faced and i haven't recovered [Laughter] ptsd you see it right zoom in so you can see the tears coming cuz i've been working on need some tissue you still good i feel sure because i've been able to get i've been holding and we talked about mental health all the time right it has been wearing on me [Applause] can y'all get pregnant with reeve you want you want to make a baby with them nah bro you made a baby for 10 years hall of fame not fast i'm bad how long have you been retired three years now three years so you got two more years on your first ballot damn boy y'all putting me on the highest first ballot ain't that hot about it that's right let me pull one pull the stats out how do you feel about that that talk right you know put together my resume i i mean i think it's peace for itself you know and at the end of the day i can't just i can't take all the credit for it you know i played in rex's defense i played in todd bowles defense i played in some you know some great schemes i just don't want y'all to think that it wasn't a challenge for me you know i think for me i was battling something even even bigger of trying to just you know be the best i can be and with the with a short period of time that i had you know i kind of knew that and i was told that you know if i'm going to try to measure myself up to prom or you know certain other legends that it's a whole different sacrifice you've been away from the game for three years um how's the transition been for you a lot of guys right uh struggle right to redefine themselves or to figure out who they are outside of the game the transition was tough for me to be honest like um you know i was diagnosed with ptsd so there's a lot of things you know there's a lot of things i didn't do that i'm that i'm actually partaking in now just for from the mental health standpoint you know um you know i'm partaking in you know uh you know marijuana certain things that you know you deal with with chronic pain uh you know other things that i'm taking mushroom gummies trying this thing out where there's there's uh it's called lines man the mushroom so it's just something that um you know research and studying it and uh it does wonders you know it does when it clears it clears brain fog it clears certain things i take lion's mane before every show you do yeah okay yeah i take lines made before every show and i but i guess as a part of that like that's a that's a big question of mine right for a lot of guys what was the diagnosis of ptsd was that from the transition of football was that from something else outside of football was that relational what where where does that diagnosis come from and how do you diagnose something like ptsd i mean to be honest i think you know from speaking to my doctors um it could kind of get into your doctor can kind of get into therapists too because they try to dig deep on trauma as well you know childhood trauma uh you know things that you know you grew up dealing with that um still lingers it still hangs with you and you know i i think we don't realize that enough that we do deal with a lot it's kind of like we was like you built to like we were built for tough like you you're not supposed to speak up and and it's kind of like the lebron thing shut up and dribble you know you can use the same slogan for shut up and play football and i think guys is being a little bit more vocal now about the things that we deal with because you consider soft if you speak up about you know things you deal with internally so i think for the most part the more guys speak up on these type of issues and we talked about it even off-camera before we got on about how impactful that was you know for you to speak up about your mental situation and you know being on the podium at miami and speaking up and i think you were so far ahead ahead of your time where you woke a lot of people up you know what i'm saying to be honest so um i think that's where we are today in sports when people are are being more um you know aware of the mental health aspect and it does affect this man there's so much pressure man to to go out and run through that tunnel and to actually you know hey you playing against 85 000 people and if you don't score a touchdown to make an interception they don't see the inside you know what we got to deal with when we deal with the coaches and things like that but the pressure of it itself is is strenuous it's a lot you know what i'm saying you got to look over your shoulder to know you're going to get released next year or those things or not so i i think for the most part um you know i just telling you like childhood trauma it can be a lot of things that you just dealt with through your life that it just it hangs with you you know when you think about you know illness you think about sickness you think about segmenting it out you think about communities and mental health it touched everyone i mean we joked about your career earnings earlier but you made a lot of money you talking about revis allen being in the biggest media market in the world like everybody knew who you were like not just a football player celebrity famous and for you to be sitting here today saying like no this is what i deal with this is what i live with right um i think that says a lot you know how important this conversation is yeah i think with him saying something it opened up the door even more i know we do it we always have the mental check-ins but to have someone like this this is that this is one of if not the best dvd ever play to sit up here and say and be in a vulnerable state i got ptsd i got issues too you know and it's going it's going to help other people be able to say nevis could do it i can't right and that it's gotten to a point where you guys always talk to now i want something to say you know i want a problem too i'm at the point i want something i want something wrong with me so i can sit up here but but maybe maybe there's something is wrong with you and maybe you're masking some pain like i want to open up and and i want to be able to share some too brandon something you you've highlighted multiple times and that i i guess i'll shamelessly plug is that you know for the past four years i've been making a documentary about cte a part of me going to ask these doctors about that i also want to go ask an anthropologist named sebastian younger who was a wartime journalist so he went to war in afghanistan and i asked him because i read his book called tribe and one of the things that he said in his book because he got a lot of backlash for him trying to redefine what he believed ptsd to be because what he believed it to be was not what happened to you at war but it was the return back to what he called a fractured and soulless society that we can wake up every day after war we can get paid we can eat food we can drink wine we can do all of these things we can have nice things but it doesn't feel like we even deserve it simply because we're not at war anymore that we actually miss the communal feeling of being at war that that what ptsd is is a healthy reaction to just being a guy it's a healthy reaction to leaving something that feels genuine now football is not war right but it's a representation of war but the thing is is that it's real to us our acls tear my leg is broken twice we've had concussions there's plenty of things at risk so then when we leave that risk and that risk is no longer in our life there's something missing there's something missing that we're not putting up at risk every day and what he said was sebastian younger a a nominated documentarian and wartime journalist he felt that ptsd was actually healthy reaction coming back to men not having to do anything right and having nothing meaningful in society and that we can play video games and be applauded i agree with everything you're saying i'm actually happy that i'm not playing the game of football no more i'm a lover to support i love the game but um just to do something else to have your thoughts on other things out here in life is is more rewarding than anything instead of sitting here and prepping to get ready for chad or prepping to get ready for him you think this guy's seven inches taller than me do you think i really want to engage him play by play and follow him around the field no i do not but i'm prepped to do it i'm one of the best in my position he's one of the best in his and this is what we got to do for the time being because we're under a contract that we sign i think that's that implies growth right right i think that's exactly what that is is that you wanting to do that for a certain amount of time that shine wears off and so i think you know i commend you on recognizing that because sometimes when people do have troubles with ptsd it's almost as if they're recognizing that they need to get out that they need to move on that they need something else to give meaning to their life so i commend you for that ah much respect plus respect i mean for everybody out there you know we always have these conversations on the show about mental health checking with your people where you at professionally a mental fitness level and also personally it's a it's a important conversation and i really appreciate you coming on man really ending this conversation is debate around you know who's the x who's the z you know i appreciate you showing love to me i'm the x who do you say the x was the z who'd you say that he said i was the ex no he did not well we got pac-man jones coming soon remember we was in uh we was playing here we were playing in miami yeah and you ran that seventh route and i grabbed your your wrist you couldn't get your hand and you looked at the rep and was like come on man so savvy tricks of the trade dog wait stand up put a camera at let me show you all this stuff listen to the people at home all right go let me show you why really is great right so at the line right the snap of the ball normally common sense the db always goes for the second move but this had the patience of sally may he didn't go nowhere and then whichever side you chose to go just go go out that way he had an arm bar was strong right he hit that right here right here ain't nothing going on remember that for sure just like this look look at a little trick see y'all man watch i've been i tried i ain't work much man appreciate you appreciate it i need one baby get my cleats we had to fight to get it wrongfully accused we had to fight to get the pills that's why we right and my family needed bread i had to come correct that's why i keep airing it out like i just passed gas oh yeah it started from the bottom but we made the top

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Length: 49min 38sec (2978 seconds)

Published: Mon Oct 11 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/KironD63]

Even if this were true and Brady really were 100% the brains behind the dynasty, I'd imagine Belichick would deserve something more than 0% of the credit for drafting him and sticking with him over Bledsoe in '01.

[u/JulianEdelmansQuads]

Oh we’re still doing this?

[u/richardeid]

At one point Revis said something like "that's why the relationship was severed between Bill and Tom". Don't we know this is a falsehood at this point? I don't know, I think after the whole media spectacle that NE-TB was last week I've given up on any hope of drama between those two guys. The more time goes on the more it just seemed like a business deal that Belichick didn't want to happen because who wants to lose Brady? But he couldn't do much with the corner they'd painted themselves in to win the past decade. And I don't think Tom necessarily wanted to leave but he wanted to win still and NE wasn't gonna be able to do that for him. But stacked Tampa would.

[u/trueknick15]

But does Tom Brady know what en passant is?

[u/ghostx231]

TB was a steal? Thank u captain obvious!

[u/anishh]

If a great quarterback alone could produce a dynasty, Drew Brees would have more than 1 ring and Dan Marino more than 0. It takes more than just that. Even when those guys were paired with great coaches it didn't happen for them.

It's inane to act like Brady wasn't a massive part of the success the Patriots had. He was. It's also pretty inane to believe that same success could have happened anywhere, with a different head coaches under completely different circumstances.

I don't think anyone was winning more rings with Brady than Belichick. Nor is it believable that Belichick wins nearly as much without Tom.

[u/cowboys5xsbs]

Is bill belichick a system coach

[u/LibertarianSocialism]

Tom does in fact know how to move chess pieces. He played a game against JaMarcus Russell back in 2009 and JaMarcus tried to move the Queen like a knight.

[u/Iceraptor17]

I mean, there's some truth to it. But only some. To me the Patriots org was key to Brady's development, and they just worked well together. Why do we have to say its one or the other?

With that said, the some truth is Brady was a cheat code to team development. You could give Brady a box of scraps and still come within 5 yards of making a SB (see the 2006 New England Patriots with Reche Caldwell as a #1). Brady made offenses work 99/100 (his last year in NE being the exception, but I swear that was because he's old and tired of making chicken salad out of chicken crap). Not to say all his offenses were bad, but it sure helps when you can run out offenses without a true #1 and your star TE got hurt and still at least make the AFCCG.

So yeah, having Brady made it so he could run complex offenses with moving parts without too much investment and focus instead on development elsewhere.