Jalen Ramsey on Super Bowl win, Golden Tate feud, NFL contracts & Jacksonville | The Pivot Podcast

congratulations appreciate it well deserved man you're good take it easy yeah you always bless bro always always best decision you ever made huh oh my god [Music] [Music] [Music] listen all the subscribers man we appreciate y'all make sure you subscribe make sure you like whether it's youtube apple spotify whatever it is we got a special show though dog oh my gosh you know what i'm saying we got an all-pro 100 million dollar guy dog but now we got a super bowl champion and what he told us before we came on was he done nothing since he got the ring he said he done nothing since the parade what what you been doing chilling chilling got my ring and was chilling that's it we won the super bowl i was chillin let me let me jump in real quick i think rc short that you won future hall of famer oh yeah we're gonna manifest that like we manifest this interview yeah i appreciate you appreciate your time appreciate you appreciating what's the ride been like since winning the game because you know the one thing i know about you ultimate competitor we all know that legends are built in the playoffs i think about your first playoff run in jacksonville i remember the press conference or i remember the big thing in the stadium we was like yeah we're gonna whip that ass yeah we're going to the super bowl but i remember the plays i'm a pittsburgh steeler i remember to play on le'veon bell in the backfield those things and so now you you have this super bowl run you finally win it like i remember i was at the super bowl i remember you jumping on aaron donald after he makes the last play man what were all those feelings like finally getting to the position that you wanted to be man uh i can't even really describe it like a feeling that like i'm a strong believer in manifesting things and i try to think positive about everything even if it's a negative situation i try to bring the positive out of it so honestly in my heart i always knew at some point in my career i was going to get a super bowl some point didn't know when it was going to come but at some point i was going to get me a super bowl for sure thought it was going to happen in jacksonville didn't happen la i mean i've been thinking it's gonna happen here yeah i've been in that lay hang on a lot to you but this [ __ ] i was for sure like yeah it got to happen this year and then mid season getting ron oh i'm like man it's destiny it got it it just got to happen for us we was we played trash first few games after we had got them then it's shaky it's like is that bull again right man we got it together man we went on that uh we went on that run at the end of the season we won like five straight games to win the to uh in the regular season until we play san fran and uh that game went into overtime and and we lost i'm like these dudes got our number for whatever reason but after the game something was telling me like all right they're going to go to dallas they're going to beat dallas some they're going to be dallas they nice i was like then they go then they're going to go to green bay i was like they're going they going to hurt green bay and we ain't even gonna have to go to green bay so you so so you expected that it was gonna be y'all in san francisco yo and then i'm like man we're gonna have to we're gonna have to figure it out i'm like when it come down to that we're gonna have to figure it out they don't beat us since i've been around i ain't beat him i'm like we gonna have to figure that out so uh that game got to that game it was a tough one again when we came out we came out on top and after that i'm like yeah we're gonna win the super bowl however it happened we're gonna win we're gonna win the super bowl and and brought from nato like because it's funny cause tyree killed signed with the dolphins and he even brought it up where like the y'all were like f them picks forget them for getting them picks like we're gonna trade off again bro but is that what it is though like if them picks let's go ahead and win it man if you if you got an opportunity to win a super bowl win it like it's always win now mode i don't care who you are it should always be win now mode say you're an nba organization you got the number one pick this year the lottery whatever it may be and you can trade that that number one pick the number one pick i don't even care the number one pick and you can go get uh lebron james lebron yeah are you gonna trade it or are you gonna say i'm gonna use this draft pick and hope that the future can build this up man or you're gonna be like nah i'm gonna get lebron so we can try to win this thing right so what you're saying is are you gonna are you gonna look for potential against proven i'm gonna get lebron so i can win right now i'm trying to win right now i'm trying to win you win you win a super bowl you win a nba championship man that what every coach they get extended after that right right at three more years gm that's three more years if you own a super bowl winning team usually when you if you're a free agent that boosts your it up just a little bit a couple m's just saw they're gonna say man he's coming from a winning culture like that's gonna boost you up a couple m's man it's always win now i'm always in my mind yeah always win now so you mentioned you mentioned vonn uh obj you also add matthew stafford right like like that that type of mindset going in but you look at all those pieces they don't do what you do you play corner yeah right and and for most of the year people stay away from you you know what i'm saying i was laughing at you because uh you talked about tom brady's last touchdown right now right and then when he came back he was like [ __ ] yeah throw that touchdown against somebody else how do you view your playoff run though from an individual standpoint man i'm super like can nobody uh tell me that i play bad because like the way i break down myself the way i break down my film like i'm super critical i don't hold no punches with myself like i'm to the t like dog you dumb for not realizing this formation and they was gonna do like all of that like that's how i am like that's how i um that's how i challenge myself to be great not just the great the greatest in the best in the game doing it the most consistent doing it so um playoffs first game and it's all my fault too first game we played arizona i had no action do y'all didn't play i got no action in the whole game not i'm talking about they made it through the ball my way one time the whole game no action all game boring game i was hot i was hot i was happy we went but i was hot i'm like man it's the most boring game ever i'm talking to rod like man you know towards the back half of the season i stopped playing star as much and i started playing corner just because that's what the team needed i needed to to have the hardest task that so and we we could flood the coverage elsewhere and i needed to be wherever the the hardest task was i need to be covering the hardest receiver or wherever the toughest down was that's why i had to go for the team and i was cool with it but after that game i'm like man i need to be in the action i'm like i gotta i gotta feel like i'm effective in the game i gotta i gotta actually help the team i don't just wanna be alone for the ride and and just here you know i mean i wanna really affect the game so he was like just chill you're gonna be good it's gonna come to you i'm like all right then the next game we play uh tampa i'm locked in i'm like i got mike man i respect mike game played mike before like everest mike evans yep played well against him and i was ready for the match up again and obviously tom brady i'm like man we got to send them home i mean they they ran the super bowl champs we got to get through them to get to where we want to be we playing them and honestly like that first quarter and a half strapped i'm talking about i'm i'm locked then i'm on it probably like two pbu's already no catches on me like i'm locked in and then uh it was a third down and it and me and mike was locked up and just threw me off my whole game and it's my fault he ran a like a like a blaze out 10 yard blaze out i sat on the route meaning meaning basically i beat him to the spot he pushed off two-hand push-off should have been flagged when the flag though right that threw me off my game because i'm hot now i'm like he caught a pass on him like i hold myself to that standard like brain ain't gonna catch no pass on me for real like if he catch a pass like in my mind i'm like his flute that's just my mindset so he caught he caught that on me and then he um he hit me with a stiff arm so it really had me hot because i don't i don't miss tackles i don't like to do all that right so that through i threw me off that threw me off right i'm hot really the rest of the quarter kind of at halftime i'm hot i'm kind of calming down a little bit um third quarter come out i'm cool whatever whatever and then uh last drive when they when they starting to come back mike uh ran a goal so they was in a formation that i knew the formation is max max protect so they gonna go deep there's deep shots based off of the games we played them in the past uh early in the year we played on week three tom tried me with a goal ball locked it up it was with mike tried me to go ball locked it up it was cool nobody else the whole the rest of the year uh tried to try me on the go ball it just they already tried me on the go ball 50 50 ball that's kind of my advantage i ain't really too much worried about it so i was like in a sad turn and i'm like man no way he gonna actually go deep though i'm already playing eight yards off right so man i just lose all my coverage and i turn into him instead of just staying in my standing in my zone turn playing ball and then he uh he got a step on me and i'm like man you know where the ball coming man tom put that thing right there touchdown like after the play i'm like i was just shaking my head and i'm shaking my head at myself like dawg you trash this is how i'm talking to myself like man you trash this is crazy i'm hot i'm like man i'm glad we won but we really let him off the hood we should have killed him really we made a lot of mistakes and we just started tripping tripping on technique whatever it was boom i let that go though i'm right now all right next game we in the nfc championship game every time we play san fran even even though we lose i borrow that game i ain't gonna lie i have pretty good games they got dogs though bro they got some dogs they got dog you got dogs that was one game where i was like yo i really that that's what my mind said kind of switch for these next two games it's a san fran game i'm like yo i've played well against san fran my whole career basically and i've never beaten san fran even back when i was in jacksonville so i'm like man i don't even care how i play this game i just want to win whatever whatever got to happen so we could just win so that whole game was cool played well ended the game dropped a pick y'all want to hit me right hit me right in the chest tried to catch you on my chest it's a joint you you're on the sideline you get vision inside devo coming this way yup jimmy get out the pocket yeah yep drop it hit me right in my chest float it up and instantly i was hot i'm like dressed in the game that's a game you what are you doing like this is moments like this where where where you shine like you usually you usually do make these plays like you trash right now i i tell myself that like man next drive and get it remember what you said like as long as we win it don't matter like we still get off the field as long as we win it don't matter boom the next drive a.d win the game for us um how he do man i'm happy i don't even care about that i don't care about the p i'm like man maybe maybe everything that's happening right now in this playoffs just i'm saving it really for for the super bowl to go crazy like that's how i that's how i switch stuff that's how i switch a negative to a positive right positive talk yeah maybe it's meant to be like i wasn't meant to make that i'm gonna make it in the super bowl whatever super bowl gear here super bowl i'm playing well um and then jamar jamar goes uh same really it was the same play that uh tampering the exact same play off coverage it was i was off coverage it was uh pass protection they was um in the shot zone which is like by the logo so i knew it already so i played my technique right at the beginning and then in the middle of the play i ended up playing it just like how i played mike two games ago like if you look at the clips they look i dang near identical they both like midfield where the ball was pass protection got their best receiver ran a straight go route and so jamar slowed his tempo down so as soon as he slowed his tempo down i thought he was going to do a comeback so i came out of my zone turn and got eyes to him as soon as i got eyes to him he kept going boom my flip flip head boom stay right there on hip but he had to step on me then because i played the wrong technique same thing here a good receiver you have you have to step up you can make them plays especially if the ball in the right place he made a good one hand catch we got him down cool whatever i wasn't even really tripping because i knew i knew that was me off the jump i'm like man it's whatever we got him down at least he didn't score i ain't really worried about that i'm like man as long as we win that's kind of my mindset right last two games long we win i ain't tripping man to start the second half the first play of the second half all that's on my mind is yo let's finish the game let's win let's get a super bowl but the first play though you it throw you off though because cause i got scored on it's up about you know t higgins and that's my dog too i rock with t and we and we laugh about it and joke about it now because you won it's easy yeah cause i won you weren't gonna laugh if y'all lost oh for sure yeah okay yeah yeah yeah so uh man they wasn't they was in a little stack t ended up doing a spray release so i stayed on t but i kept eyes i kept vision to the quarterback the whole time so i saw joe throw the ball so i see joe throw the ball i'm like i'm playing ball whole time i'm finna make a play come out to half week like literally in my mind i'm looking at that ball the whole time man out of nowhere i just whoa face magic went like this i went flying when i got up off the ground i see him i see him going um going into the end zone he scored a touchdown or whatever and i'm like i'm looking for the flag i was immediately looking for the flag no flag was thrown so i was hot i was hot about that one because i'm like man i got scored on this super bowl to start the second half like that they they really started the second half like that on me did you feel like did you feel like all of a sudden they started trying you know like think about it mike and then you know saying you got jamar then they go at you with with t what was it different for you because there's so many games oh watch you whether it's dk or wherever you guard it and like cats ain't like they just don't try yeah like did you start to feel a certain way like damn they trying me now nah cause it was always just one play you know i mean it was always just one play while i wasn't on well i wasn't on my a game the truth of it was i wasn't playing good enough i wasn't playing my right technique i wasn't playing how i needed to be playing so um they took advantage of them opportunities but the t the t thing the t hinges when i wasn't tripping off that that should have been opi but so i wasn't even tripping off that one i got to the sideline i was hot but then you know after the drive went by i'm like i started laughing about it honestly i'm like yo that's great like it ain't nothing i can do right right i'm like that's crazy that that really happened in the super bowl like right everybody watching i'm like that happened in the super bowl i was i was for real laughing it laughing like yo what happened super ball like you guys going on [Music] well you got going on in the super bowl and we we talked to raheem morris oh yeah we sit down right now and hopefully we toy's house so we're going to tell your house up because you already know there's no egg toys but i don't know but i cleaned it up though because that's real wood i thought that was laminate that's the real that's real wood there yeah when i when i was rubbing my drink that's that's not laminate so but we talked to raheem you talking about matchups do you ever say you want to travel do you ever say do you ever tell rahim morris or whoever your dc is like put me wherever their best receiver is because people are going to run from you um so actually it goes a little bit different um so that's how the year starts well nah i'll take a bit the year started off like hey rob i want to play start don't put me out that corner unless we in base by the way i just want to put this out there i met a young jaylen ramsey at espn right we doing the whole draft thing right we talking so you know rc i'm trying i'm about to drop knowledge right i say look man the schooling all the schooling you know yeah i watched all the film i said young that's like young jaylen you know first of all i'm looking up talking to him cause i'm not very big [ __ ] biggest that's my life it's huge so i'm saying that's like hey man listen if they want to put you inside and then you play the star you play a little safety whatever whatever like you're gonna be a hall of famer man on trip straight up tells me now i'm a corner i was like i know that i said but what i'm saying is if you do all this other stuff you could be one of the best to ever do it like you need to be around the football so i'm happy that once you got out of jacksonville you finally got to a place where you could be around the rock yeah yeah that's exactly what happened actually yeah that's exactly what happened getting out of jacksonville before you go there just go back to 2016 coming into the league the fifth pick in 2016 jacksonville what was your uh the memories of your draft day and being selected that high what what what did that feel like top five you're supposed to be happy you're supposed to really be living life honestly right but i'm hot um and i'm hot because well two things it's like a whole sequence of events that led up to this moment right so um if you remember the tennessee titans they had a they had the number one pick that year and they had traded that pick to the rams for because the rams offered them you know a couple first rounds whatever whatever to they was moving to la they wanted jerry carter they wanted the quarterback but in my mind i'm like yo i'm gonna go number one for real for real like i'm i'm like that man i i took a visit to tennessee but this was before they had traded the pick you gonna be home i was gonna be home like y'all i remember when i took my visa we went out to eat um and we was uh we was in a restaurant like three four people came up to me like from the crib like man we hope you we hope they drive you know when you come back to the crib i'm like man they kind of set me up good you say i'm gonna man the crib set me up good so then boom they traded the picture the rams and i'm like i ain't going ain't going there they don't need me they don't need me i'm like i ain't going to they don't need me right so honestly my mind was set on three or four so like that's my motivation i want to be the first defensive player taking off the board so uh the chargers they wanted me to play safety though and even though i didn't really want to play safety i just wanted to be the first defensive player off the board right that's where i wanted to initially go just because of that simple fact because at the time i was like before myles the the uh reporter came out that miles jack knee was hurt because he was in that conversation too it was like mile jack jalen smith uh joey bowser and myself were like in that conference who's gonna be the first defensive player taking off the board and i just wanted to be that that was really the only reason um and then but if it didn't happen i'm like yo i always grew up a dallas cowboys fan really like titans and cowboys right so if i go four that's gone man that's like for real dream come true and uh i remember when i was at um when i was on my visit to dallas they told me um like straight up to my face like if you four we take him it was like we don't think you're gonna be there at four they said we think they're gonna get you at three but if you dare four if you on that board we taking and i thought where it was bond i'm like i'm gone then if i'm there four i'm there that's the only thing i was gonna be there at five because i remember sitting there um sitting in the gm office in my jacksonville visit and he said um he said you think he asked me he said you think you're gonna be there at five i said nah respect like respectfully no i don't think i'm gonna be right right he said me either he said it's tough to trade up but we may try right i was like all right so you knew you weren't falling past jacksonville though nah no chance right no chance but if it came down to it i was hoping that i fought a six because that was the ravens and you know they got the defensive mindset right right but uh but no i knew i wasn't gonna i really didn't think i was gonna fall past four cowboys taught me that i'm like man four for sure like right so then um man we get to the draft i know i ain't going one or two in the quarterbacks so three happen um i'm like i'm feeling away you know really i'm like i should have really been the first defensive player taking off the board but it's cool whatever so most of a dog now a dog yeah yeah my table was right here me and my mom's in parts and my fam and zeke table was right next to us so all the cameras was on me and zeke i remember like holding about 20 cameras have the cam about 10 on me 10 on z we sitting there and my mom's knew that's where i was going that's why i was sitting by we was like whispering each other and then in an instant them 10 cameras out at my table they all went they went to the zeke table and me and my momma looked at each other and she gave me like a little frown or something and i just like did one of these and i was like um you know don't make no emotions and then the camera is going to be on right and she said something like wow like that's crazy or something or something like that and i was like yeah you know whatever and then as soon as they announced his pick my phone started ringing 904 and i knew like immediately like right when they announced him my phone started ringing 904 it was it was jasonville so that's why i was mad i was mad because i didn't go three or four not not because of jacksonville particularly but correct because uh i i had built that extra little motivation in my um in my mind that was going to challenge me so are you excited to be still in the state of florida not too far away from that ass now once it like settled in like that night i ain't like that night i ain't going out ain't do nothing because i was really mad like i was i was real dear mad that's how i do that's how i do like i like immediately the the motivation started in my mind like that night like right now i mean partying and we know and none of that we we took let's get to business in the morning we're gonna get on this flight six a.m we didn't jacksonville whatever yeah i think i think right now you're painting a picture for every young player you know and or any for any anyone actually that when they see jaylen ramsey you know they see how you know you talk trash you know you're competitive and you got your you wear your heart right here on the outside of your shirt right you know i think now what you're saying in this entire interview is that you saw extremely hard on yourself you take nothing for granted so i think now you're you're allowing them to get closer to you so they can paint the picture or you're painting a picture for them to to to really just uh say look i'm i'm going to be the best ever yeah you know man honestly man i'm hard on myself like that sometimes like my friends and family tell me not to be like relax on myself or whatever but i'm hard on myself like that honestly because i ain't gonna lie like god damn for real bless me for real for me he done took his time on me like really blessed me like gave me all the gifts that i can even imagine right so i'm like if i don't if i don't do my part like to the fullest that i can do i'm talking about work hard right like give it everything i got i feel like i'm cheating him you know i feel like i feel like i'm i'm letting him down like i'm cheating him if i don't if i don't develop all the gifts he's giving me into into like elite skills and be one of the best i'm cheating is this something that me and freddie talked about when we knew we were gonna we was gonna get you on where you saw jacksonville and you saw the bigger picture of what's going on fred stayed there for what 11 years 11. 11 years and went to the damn career way losing and you saw what was going on and your ass said i gotta get out of here yeah you don't say it like he just like this is the thing i was trying to tell him yeah right you know everyone makes the decision what they feel is best for them right yeah i feel like i didn't have the leverage you know in different times in my career to leave because of certain injuries i had like i told rc a burden in the hand is better than two in the bush in terms of dollars i never wanted to test free agency when they offered me an opportunity to get a second deal i jumped at it because i come from nothing i said i got to make sure my my people good yeah and i'm not going to risk you know playing this last year not having uh uh uh uh guarantees in place you know to try to chase free agency so i stayed in jacksonville and ultimately at the end of the day for me this is just for me i can't speak on jay yeah they hit it bro jay hit it no he did what he was fighting him kiss his ass robinson hey look yeah yeah jay was like no i ain't gonna sit here and let y'all let your bastards yeah a great decision and for me i think my decision was great in hindsight i'm in the ring of honor that you can never as long as the jaguars exist my name's gonna forever be in a jaguar's hall of fame and ring of honor that's real bro and it's synonymous too whether it depends on who's saying it i'm the greatest player in that franchise history so that's my decision you and tony which was a great decision isn't it and both yeah and then jimmy smith too right so but that was his decision initially i was like damn what's going on in jacksonville i'm like how do you let him go you know what i'm saying but trying to figure it out you forced that what happened to jacksonville jacksonville you had a lot of stuff going on you you fight with coaches like we it's all it's all out there bro what happened to jack coaches gm's everybody you would fight one there what happened to jacob that's one of the first places that i've ever been in that i don't feel valued for real it was weird and it was frustrating and it got to a point where like it just started piling up piling up piling up and we wasn't winning and they didn't want to pay me early so all of that put together was like man so what i'm what am i here for like what what am i here wasting my time for and you had them conversations with them oh yeah for sure i don't i i ain't scared there's no smoke no confrontation we don't have man to grow to grow you need confrontation sometimes i value relationships i really do value relationships so i think to grow relationships sometimes you got to have them them type of conversations and you got to go through something with people that's what happened really the one person i never really got to have a relationship with at all was tom coughlin and and at the time he ran all that at jacksonville he ran all that i'm talking about everything every part of everything he ran all that um other than that i had good relationships with my coaches like even doug like people the scuffle with me and doug the the houston game before i requested to trade but me and doug cool like doug and my oldest daughter got the same birthday i promise you every year doug takes me on her birthday be like tell your daughter i say happy birthday and i'll be like man appreciate it saying to you whatever whatever yeah like my db coaches talk to all of them every db coach i ever i've ever had in the league ever had at jacksonville i talked to all of them uh the last one coach walt he had ohio state now he just called me two days ago like i talked to all of them uh defensive coaches like i got love with all the coaches and everybody it was really just tom coughlin and then what was it about tom coughlin that he didn't care to try to have no relationship it was just you know it was just it was it was my way out of the highway tc tc was my coach for five years yeah well you are be one and you were cute uh cb1 yeah 100 but that's how football is though fellas but man you relationships matter yeah and the players matter the people matter so if you make a player especially your top players feel like they ain't nothing like that's not going to go well for you at all and that's how that's how divide was around there just like man we can get another jalen so it got to a point where i was like prove it then if that's if that's how y'all feel about me if i'm if if y'all don't value me like that if that's how y'all feel about me um it's coming from the top so then it's starting to trickle down now now me in the gm got beef because because because now that gm don't want to have conversation me and him had always talked been able to have conversations or whatever and then and then you know all of a sudden now we don't even get to have conversations like he'll see me in the hallway and say hi to me and then 30 minutes later he'll call my agent and and say something about me and my agent called me and i'd be like i just saw him in the hallway he said he said hey to me like but now we don't even talk we don't even wanna all right so if y'all don't value me and then and then it got to it it literally just kept trickling down like it got to the point where it just kept getting worse um it got to the point where like we're going into meetings and stuff and and they talking about like you know i i always had the hardest matchups or whatever it may have been like guard d-hop two times a year you're talking about d yeah i got the hardest matchups i'm going against the number one receiver and they talking like like say say i'm guarding a b whatever right yeah we know a b gonna make some plays we uh we're gonna try to limit him a little bit with jalen all right what are you talking about i've never heard none of my what are you talking about we know he gonna make plays how about like no we we know they got a b he a dog we know that for show but we like our match up right right we gonna put jalen on them and it's it's done like they know conversations need to be headed you don't need no help you don't need none of that like that's how we talk with you did it change though was it was it once like that though like at one point was it was never they had so no it was one point though they had a b and they felt like okay we got jailer like when y'all y'all run to the afc championship yeah it was still never like that really never like that but the one thing that uh that made it a little bit better is we was winning right how bad was your back wow how bad how recovering how bad was the back injury that kept you out in jacksonville before you got traded man just now really recovering so so so uh you wouldn't know you were calling back one with a back injury in the super bowl run i i'm just putting it putting the puzzle together now in the super bowl man this year i battle um i sprained both my ac joints crazy both of them so i played half the year probably ten games probably ten games with uh two ac joining spring both of them gone i'm talking about on mondays i used to be like shannon and walking up on the one hey everybody you missed you missed what i was asking him if you don't remember when everything went on in jacksonville when jaylen was asking to be traded he couldn't play because his back was hurt it was he had a terrible terrible back injury and it was so crazy i don't know if it was the humidity in florida that was continuing to keep his back hurting spasms my spasms but all of a sudden when he got to the dry air and the smog of los angeles his back was no longer hurting trainers out there top notch top notch trainers man they top-notch out there they got some they got some different medicine out there needles all that they got different trainers that were able to get you right top notch out what you got out there top nights out there and i'm and i'm and i'm joking but i'm i'm low-key serious too because let me tell y'all about how it was in jacksonville at the time it was like if you're in the training room uh you know how tom [ __ ] worked man he made me he made the training room like you couldn't be yeah yeah it was a forbidden space you could not be in there yeah you can't make it you can't be in the training room it's a it's a forbidden space but like now like i go to the training room before practice so i can just get my get my body loosened up do my little correctives make sure i'm activated my core activated my hips my hips good my glutes firing i like i go to the training room to get activated get ready man not in jacksonville you go in that training room you it's forbidden it's forbidden it's always been that way yeah you can't make the club like that that was the thing when we was coming we oh that was the thing you can't make it clear and that's the thing about tc he's such an old school mentality and i think when they brought him in it was trying to restore order and discipline on the team right and uh you know there are some opinions that say it was unnecessary right and he went a little too hard but y'all won and he should have recognized his stars even when i played you know there um there was opportunities where if i'm the best player on offense there will be times where you got to know when you're when your dogs need a break yeah but you got to know when you know you got to know how to ride your dogs right you know what i'm saying and and unfortunately um tc wasn't that guy even in my first five years but after he left when he won his super bowls i saw him in the hallway in passing and i said you know what coach i respect what you was trying to do with me right oh i know you're trying to do it you know what i'm saying so so for that we developed a better relationship afterwards for sure because there was a point in jacksonville where he threw me under the bus when the media took how do you think the fragile friendship started the media was like what's going on with you it's freaky fred i don't know no no no no no nasty damn nasty dawg freaky game that's how i told my growing up freaking game chanting in the road and channing rose bro nah bro yeah yeah and it's different but i pour some juice in there i'm going to pivot because we need to get we need to get way away from there james before you pick it up hey man i'm gonna come back around don't worry yeah because you're gonna always but the thing i want to ask though you know i'm always looking like into the person you know what i'm saying and i've been blessed to do a couple of features with you and and get to know you a little bit um and your girl dad man oh yeah and my baby's right there and shoot the reason we in your spot so late was because you had to go t-ball and do different things you know with your babies man what has that experience been like for you because this is something like you've been a dad for a while and you were a young father what has that experience been like for you with you and your babies man that's the best thing ever that's better than every anything that can happen for me football-wise business-wise man that's the best thing ever i never knew that i would like really only want girls really like i kind of want a boy a little bit you're gonna be so hard on a boy though bro but but these girls though like man i'll take i i'll have ten more if i could like i look like i love my little girls like it's something different about them like they bring out the best man in me put it that way the better yeah and and and brother the whole thing like we on this show we like to let people get their own narrative off so your baby's mother is golden tate's sister and you we've heard all kinds of stuff bro let us know what's going on with that because that's my homie go and take your homies right today no no no not golden not golden cause he beat you up after the game for sure never beat me up that's something that we want to get out so you can so you can explain the narrative of what's going on there to be honest with you i've always kind of just let it run cause i know we cool like like we're good at home we cool so i've never really man i ain't never really addressed nothing that's ever been you haven't said about me or anything because i'm knowing how i'm rocking with my loved ones and i know we good so it don't really matter to me and another reason like it's a it's a protective thing like i really don't want her um private life to be public like my life already is people trying to figure out my private life and make it public as it is like and that's kind of annoying but i'm cool but i can deal with it i don't want that for you know um the mother of my kids you know what i mean so i also do it as a protective thing to protect her i mean me and bree was best friends like art since we met you know i mean uh and people kind of throw like high school sweetheart out there but we weren't in high school in high school that was just my homie like that was my my dog for real like she know everything about me i know everything about her like we that close like still to this day like like i can call her at any given time she can call me any given time and it's love like whatever she need done i got her whatever i need i know she got me like we know each other like that like we we that close but um when we broke up we we figured out that we were better friends than being together in a relationship honestly that's important though we we did so we were always friends until um her last year ole miss and then we we got intimate and we started to get together but i even remember before that we we kind of we kept like not getting into that because we was like man our friendship two we too locked in like never want nothing to happen to where we ain't even friends no more and then we like man it'll never happen though like because we're that close but anyway so we we got together and then it didn't work out it's a relationship we weren't good for each other in our relationship we should have remained friends we figured out that we were better friends than in a relationship okay so we decided to break up and when we decided to break up we didn't feel like we didn't feel like we needed to announce it to any in any and everybody it was like whatever because we still was around each other we still gonna co-parent we still gonna do what we got to do um so we didn't we didn't announce it to nobody we didn't do none of that and somebody had got on twitter you know the blogs they pieces together oh they ain't on social media there's no more together they don't we been seeing them she didn't she didn't travel to um to jacksonville when he went to jacksonville like they pieced it together right so it got out or whatever and then after i got traded to la um some more had got out and golden had tweeted something about it so that's when it got like super public is when he tweeted something about it and like i said i'm protective so i that i ain't like that i was hot about that kind of that's where that's where i was like yeah i don't rock with him for sure never written them we was never like cool or nothing like that it was just i'm cool with his sister not him so when y'all meet in the in the middle of the field and all that goes down are you just kind of trying to address that like like did you just address that with him and then the rest of that escalated or did you walk out there like nah man like this need to be settled no we knew what we was going to do oh okay both of y'all yeah we knew we knew what was up that week that day on site on site you knew that he had that you got you had to talk about this yeah well no talk for you i mean that's his sister that's what he's supposed to do too but you know like you mind your business too like this is me too now you know what i mean so that's where it was kind of it was just a button heads like yo he a protective brother and like yo this is me though this is my family now right so if you had to choose between golden tate and aj green because i remember in jacksonville the situation that yeah who'd you put the gloves on with first of all too now steve severe too the man the man everybody the man everybody you know all right i know you younger than us but bro bro you mad you write it you're ready man i'm not for respect yeah that's true i wasn't scared of nobody man but back to back to the question aj green in the ring or a golden tape [Laughter] i'm gonna go with uh i'm gonna go with aj because he gotta get you get back yeah i guess you could put it that way me and gold man that's family business right you know what i mean that's that's family business like we're gonna see each other you know plenty of times like right i'm with my daughter's everywhere and he gonna want to see his nieces that give me that that's the way he's supposed to be yeah that's fine speaking of receivers you want to see we were talking earlier about folks getting their money right tyree go get three for 75. tay got what five for 140. we already saw 30 million a year yeah so well i'm getting 30 minutes right so we already saw what d-hop got you already talking about re-upping and chan already said you can't make that money because the and the other thing is this nobody's giving you 30 million nobody's giving me 30 million jaylen nobody's giving you that money nobody's giving you tyreek money 20 27. i'm sorry to break it down your money you're charged with because i i cuz you know i watch it me and you text we tweet we talk about all the time i got so much damn jill and ramsey film in my house i might as well work for the damn rams and raheem come on when so so so when it's when it's green bay it's tail to start right i remember jacksonville when tyreek only went for like four for 60 in kansas city any time you see these folks you're charged with stopping them why can't you get that money then why does channing crowder say that money ain't for you it's not for you you know what it is i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you what it is i mean i signed for 105 uh two years ago by yourself nobody else is there neither one but they should be at this point so this is what happens they really are like 23 24. you know some balloon years on the back end right yeah that bring the average up i could i could do that i wanted to stop talking to david muller man no no no that's that's that's that's easy to see that number first down because a lot of people there's a lot of people don't understand the numbers how the numbers see um they better know they stop though they don't they that they're going to continue to play well in their scene so it do bring that average up but they believe you is if you want to know exactly who would kind of talk about it um so they kind of had like 23 24-ish you know what i mean and i'm at 20. so marlon humphreys got his deal after me and he signed for 97. marlon should have jumped me though because he should have used his leverage like um and he was coming off all pro mind you i'm saying this and he got 97. that's crazy he's he's signed a great deal that's a that's an amazing deal yeah but i think he he could have jumped me um like that's how that's how i personally uh feel like it the top guys should always jump each other so if i sign for 20 marlin did his contract i want to say a week or two after mine his agent should have just took my contract and went to the ravens and been like this plus a meal that's how it works that's how it works for the next best that's how it should go that's how it should go you up now so now it's your turn to reset the market y'all and and what's the argument oh you you not jaylen ramsey all right go get jaylen ramsey oh you can't because he locked in five years or 105. so i am jaylen ramsey to you in a sense i'm that valuable to you so now i got to jump so i went i went 20 marlin should have went 21 or 20.5 whatever you want to call it yeah then then um marshawn went after him so marshawn should have win 25 yep and then you got jc this year 22 22 and a half right so that's all right so why do you think it's not happening like that then uh it's just the way man i ain't a lot to you it was a point it's tough it's tough it's tough to do that because man when you're going back and forth you gotta it's really who gonna fold first honestly because you're going back and forth man and they say they say hey 97 97 mil whatever you like fine i'm gone that should sound good it sounds good i'm going so i'll never i don't ever fault nobody i'll never blame nobody um because it was a point where when david hit me up like this is where we at now and it was like 97 something and that was the hardest thing i ever had to do in that split second in my mind i told him i said nah that's not enough do you think do you think having a dog like david mullighetta who just negotiated desean watson's deal for 230 million guaranteed do you think having somebody like that as your agent gives you a confidence in that you're going to make sure you're going to get what you're supposed to get yeah 100 percent one i'm gonna be i'mma bet on me right that's that's one and then two i'm like i know you can i know what you can do i know you can't seen it i've seen it i know you can go my trust like is fully into you because it wasn't just like oh 97 ain't good enough hang up on him i didn't do that to david it was more like he told me like hey they said that this was a final offer 97.7 or whatever it was that's initially what the rams that came in and said that was their final offer and then i asked them like you think that's the true final i asked him that i was like that ain't going to be enough do you think it's a true final or i'll play out this year and i hit free agency nation he was like i can't tell you he said i ain't going to take david he said i ain't going to tell you not to take 97 and then i was like but can you do you think i can get more i said you think i'm worth more you think i should get more he said me personally i'm biased but yeah i said all right tell him no we're going we're going to wait he said and david told me he said i just want to let you know they said this was a final offer so when i tell them no i'm not going to call them again yeah like right if they want to do something they're gonna have to call less i'm not like chan i think you'll get another 100 in two years oh yeah about another hundred in two years but aside from that i wanna go back to family real quick uh in the off season you do a lot of things different yeah a lot of players you train with your pops and your brother explain that do you think it allows you to maximize your potential yeah yeah because uh don't nobody push me like them nobody push me like them i can get over on somebody i can get over on somebody else i can go i can go one of these places i can get over on somebody else they don't really they don't really know man this is tough man i ain't gonna do that last set they gonna man they're gonna be like all right jalen cause they the check's still clearing for him they happy to just have jalen in the building anyway working out for him pops like nah nah gone we ain't knowing that my brother like you salt like you lean on it that's right right has it always been that way from pop warner to now oh yeah for sure see see and another thing is when i'm around them that's instant motivation for me because like my pops he sacrificed so much and still made things happen for the fam yeah and then my brother that's like my biggest inspiration big biggest motivation biggest everything in my life so if i don't like i feel like if i don't overextend myself and give every everything i got i'm letting him down right yeah and that's like one thing that i don't ever want to let my big brother down so speaking of like letting folks down and money and we've talked wide receivers and all these things you know you mentioned earlier vaughn yeah we talked about the rams selling out matthew stafford going get him but y'all bought obj in and i think i feel like obj gets a bad rep and this is like my lsu thing what did he mean to the team and do you believe he's a guy that they want back and will be back man he meant a lot to the team first of all he meant a whole lot just because one he a dog on the field you got to talk about performance that's we in a performance based industry he a dog like he's straight up he really he really that dude that you know all the highlights everything he's still that you know i mean he's still that it's just um when you're a receiver you do have to have a certain chemistry with you with your quarterback and your offensive coordinator it got to be you know they got to be a right situation for you especially when you're on the offensive side of the ball and he has he hasn't had that in a little while but he's still he's still him for sure like he do some stuff that's like we be at practice like hey like right and you see it he does just like you know it ain't many that athletic like that twitchy run good routes hands crap like he really that one all right um so he bring that juice i people didn't well maybe people did but man in the playoffs man we was getting older ball early oh was really that igniter for real for real like even the super bowl let's talk about the super bowl oh was really that interesting yeah yeah o was popping it off i was like we was feeding him getting crunk and then we was rolling like off of old juice like that's really what that's really what was going on um and he got hurt and i was tough it was tough you could tell it was tough even the game changed when you saw that what what did you do when you saw when you saw old grabbed that knee i was hurt instantly yeah yeah i was hurt too bro her form not only because honestly i i think he would have um everybody know about cooper club obviously yeah monster but hey hey hey no really real life billy ho oh he like that like white man can't jump he's right he'll be out there saucing folks dog yeah he's nice but if oak could have kept going that game yeah oh probably would have been super bowl yeah yeah cause he you know and it ain't taking nothing away from cooper but oh was really living like that that game he was on another level for real for real um and then knowing that he was gonna be a free agent too all of that was like dang man i hated it for him right um but everything happened for a reason you know i mean yeah and and because of that hopefully we can get them back right yeah and you got to call them man i bet you got a call i didn't well i ain't with no super bowl rc you won the super bowl i did fred yeah jacksonville jacksonville never won a super bowl so i know you ain't win one but even in miami bro i was there six years and i like but i had you know had me i had me some oh you're talking about me yeah i ain't been in the playoffs no no no no no i've been to the playoffs i'm a super bowl winner when it comes to women that's what i want to ask jaden about when it comes to women i'm a super bowl winner do you like your woman to keep keep her stuff fresh yeah but do you keep your stuff fresh and that's what i do bro called manscape i keep my thing good and it make it makes that little man look strong because it adds two inches to the back end you know what i'm saying i don't know that's true but you gotta keep you gotta you gotta keep you sick you're gonna keep your thing fresh you can't have no big wolf cookies you don't wanna know what's better you expect her to keep it clean you gotta keep it clean you gotta keep it clean and then if you think about it if you put if you put a little dog in high grass you don't see but his head but if you put a dog in low grass you see his whole body i got a point and if i pull out my whole body man listen jalen i'll be tanned ass i'm married bro i'm married but they all know all in south florida know that they are oh no i've been tearing there i've been tearing the ass up for years oh everybody know everybody i have one question because i always wanted to ask you this right yeah you know me i'll do my rangers on db precision on my thing you always number one i need you to give me your top five receivers and your top five corners and then we let you go it's tough because i ain't guard everybody obviously no just this what you see watch your film all right what'd you feel devante adams okay tyree kill two they might be interchangeable though one a one b we go one a one b yeah i might have three number ones i might have three number ones so you know if you give me three number ones there's still only two other people you gotta add yeah that's cool uh i'm gonna go uh my three number one is probably devontae tyrique and um and dibo wow yeah what about mike thomas he didn't play last year i thought we were talking about last year yeah so last year got two more them three for show cause they changed they changed the game and the offense is honestly the offense is our structure around them yep wherever they are the offenses are structured around here tyrique is putting multiple positions to where he can they make sure he gets the ball same with devonte um he's motioned all around putting positions where he can get the ball like and not only that though their their favorable matchups but if they do get the top dog they win they can win yep exactly they can win those battles too and then and then debo what he's doing like all over the field running back was crazy he got to be he got to be right there with him four and five i definitely got cooper okay cup fine um fry might be a little tied too who you got i'm gonna go odell i like that that's what i was waiting on actually i'm gonna go with dell four i'm gonna go with del four okay now i'm gonna go cooper cup um cooper cup stefan diggs j you can't get 18 people bro i'm gonna go cougar cup stefan diggs and uh no d-hop yeah he didn't he didn't play a lot this past year yeah what i say was telling about that to me that you moved odell to four and what that tells me is what i've always said when you see great players i got to play with sean taylor i got to play with troy i saw them do more stuff at practice that people cannot do than what i saw in the game and so i'm telling you and so i would it's okay that's your five different so now give me because i already give me the next four at the jaylen ramsey corners corners i like this tough to uh marshawn lattimore so you're one for sure yeah me marshawn x trayvon and then i'll go uh what's the boy what's the boy from buffalo he played he was hurt last year but i wouldn't he would have been no he's no he's top five he's keeping my shoulders healthy he's top five jc but this year this year i'll probably i would have probably did uh um trayvon and jc okay but but man i'm a different type of style of of corner though like like if i'm picking it man it all depends on schemes and who you basing yeah and what you you know what i mean if you if you want high risk high reward i'm all i'm gonna go trayvon jc you know they're gonna they're gonna they got higher they're gonna jump all the routes yeah they're gonna jump auto routes but if you want to go somebody who like all right i'm just gonna put him on the number one guy and they gonna he gonna strap and he'll probably make some plays when they come to him but he ain't never gonna force that and he really ain't gonna give up many plays i'm going that's why i'm going like to me marchands yeah davey is like true it's kind of a it's kind of a two different tiers of of how how we play like i i hate it when people um compare me and trayvon we play completely different like i always play out of phase he always plays in phase um well also trayvon gave up over a thousand yards that's because he always plays in phase but he also had 11 12 maybe 13. you got to make 12 picks he's playing with the most yards in the league but but he plays different though he plays in he plays in phase i play out of phase you take chances you know he said he does he takes you yeah i was going to say that like some people think yeah it's just a difference of it's a different style of how he plays i agree if you are if you are a guy who plays in phase a lot like he does you don't have to have a lot of picks which he does though yeah he does so it's working out for him he wanted the best at doing that same with jc he does yo if we're looking at jill and ramsey as a whole the person the player the future hall of famer who is that man uh child of god really it's like the first thing that always comes to my mind is child of god and i lay everything my whole journey my whole life flow through that like that's the that's the main thing being a child at the most high um being a good being a good father and a family man like honestly um [Music] my daughters could care less that like your dad's all i'm all pro or you know i mean my daughters was they was calling the super bowl at a supermarket for two straight weeks they didn't know they like they like we going to the [Laughter] i'm supermarket yeah baby what you want when we get there a bite some candy like that's and i and i i enjoy all of that i'm like like at first i was like correcting them and stuff man about the third time they said supermarket i'm like yeah we're going to the supermarket like i want y'all to man be kids like enjoy that i don't want y'all to look at me as anything more than y'all's dad i don't want y'all to look at me as is i'm uh just this football player or this or that no i just want to be your dad that's like that's like i want to be introduced like one day like hey yo this is this breeland dad jalen like yo this is not this is uh hall of famer jalen written no no i want to be i want to be breeland that i want to be brooklyn that i want to be junie dad like that's how i want to be introduced you're going you're going to be a hall of famer bro you really will but like like yeah it's it's hall of famers that i can call you hall of famer when we talk to our kids you talk to your daughters i talk to your daughters when they're 25 years old your kids your kids what do what what do you want people to say about you in 30 years people or my daughters what do you want the world to say about jaylen ramsey in 20 years honestly i hope i hope i i hope my daughters uh they do something that they love and they they get famous because of that like whatever they end up loving they they uh they get famous like they be the biggest in the world the best at it and then that's what i want to be known as and then they say that my dad jaylen ramsey how they how do they talk about you um my dad's fine that's like i'm the fun dad that's what they think about me i'm fine you're cool that yeah i'm cool like that's that's supportive like you know don't i'm working but i'm not missing any stuff like always around like that's how i want them to think about me and remember me like i want to be when it's all said and done like i don't want all right put it this way um i would much rather if i ever was able to have like a documentary right i would want my documentary to be king richard not um man in the arena i want my documentary to be um like how i was raising my daughters what we was doing like all that cool [ __ ] and how my daughters are the greatest in the world at whatever they do not like all the cool [ __ ] that i accomplished not saying that it's that [ __ ] cool to me that [ __ ] cool but like that king richard [ __ ] that's even better than me like we're gonna end it on that man i think first off man we appreciate you now i appreciate you you know we've been trying to do this from the jump man so let us in your home let us into your life man like that was huge for us and we are grateful to be the first interview after you became a super bowl champion my guy yes sir yeah i mean and we're going to do you justice man i appreciate it [Music] people [Music] where i'm feeling get me up

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Length: 60min 44sec (3644 seconds)

Published: Tue Mar 29 2022

Reddit Comments

[u/ofmiceomen]

This is a great interview. It gives a real good look into Jalen as a person. He has really matured in the last few years and I respect the hell out of that. Seems like a great dad, and his dedication and love of the game comes out in all the best ways.

[u/The_Dudeist_Rev]

Amazing listen. Ramsey is a beast and his mindset has some of that Mamba Mentality.

[u/Stackinup89]

People are making too much of the top 5 list, I think it's all recruitment. Plus he knows Coop is not the guy to get all in his feelings and what not. Ramsey is more savvy than people give him credit for he wants OBJ back and wants him to know the team views him as one of the best.

[u/Chubby-Chaser11]

I was living this until he puts Cooper kupp as tied for 5th best receiver with 4 other names. IDC what looks the best. CK is the best in the biz no doubt about it. Theres no surprises where the ball goes and the man still eats.