Critical Reviews In Food Science & Nutrition - Dr. John McDougall, MD

i i'm a medical doctor i'm just a regular medical doctor i'm not a holistic doctor i'm not an alternative medicine doctor i just practice standard medicine i'm a board-certified internist so i would take care of you just like your other doctors do with one exception and that is i would uh try and solve your problem instead of instead instead of giving you a bunch of excuses and a handful of pills which is what you get i practice uh and have for 40 years i've been in medicine for over half a century but for the last 40 years i've only been dedicated to solving my patients problems by dealing with the cause and 80 percent of the sickness that people have in our country europe now asia and india it's starting to happen 80 percent of the sickness is due to the food it's the food and so i have focused my attention on the food i've done everything i can i mean my whole emphasis has been on trying to get people to make the change and uh in fact our first book that we wrote which you know we're gonna get a copy of pretty soon we lost all a lot of things a couple of years ago including our books but anyways it's called making the change because i knew the problem wasn't to heal and stay healthy because that always happens if you make the change the problem is to get you to make the change and i knew that mary and i knew that back when we started all this in 1977 and we've been eating this way pretty much vegan since 1977. we're still alive [Laughter] and uh you know you knew at that time the problem was to get people to do it because if they do it if you fix the problem they always get better and what i want to talk to you about is i want to talk to you about my practice of medicine and uh this is a lecture i could spend two hours giving you but i'm going to give you about an hour so we have plenty of time to deal with questions and i put this get a lecture together let's see somebody was at our costa rica trip right there did i do the lecture in 2014 we were there in 2014. i did this like i think that was right that's all i did this lecture the first time for your group in costa rica and what happens to me when i go and we used to do adventure trips we've taken about 33 trips we've uh taken between 80 and 150 people to different parts of the world why because people can't eat when they travel because the food is so rich and terrible but it gives me a chance to think differently when i go on these trips which whether we're not doing it at the present time but it gives me a chance to get out of my environment and what i decided to do was put together this lecture and probably was the first time i ever gave it was when you were there in 2014 and uh the reason i put it together was my uh one of my friends and who works with us jeff novick the dietitian he told me he says john and i'd already written 13 national bestseller 12 national bestselling books by then he said john he says don't write any more books he says uh people might look at pictures yeah they look at pictures and so what i decided to do was to gather a colored picture book and i presented it to various publishers and some of them turned me down this is a children's book et cetera et cetera and finally harper harper collins or hopper one came to me and offered me a bucket of money that we couldn't turn down for longer than six months and we finally accepted it but they had to agree to publish my color picture book which is in a book called the healthiest diet on the planet so this lecture is in the book called the healthiest diet on the planet it's on my website free as a lecture pretty much close to what i'm going to give tonight and it's also the slides with the description are in 24 different languages on my website and everything's free on the website not the trips to costa rica but the 10 day program but pretty much everything else is free five seven hundred recipes uh all the discussions all the lectures this lecture i'm gonna give tonight probably thirty forty other lectures that i thought were worth putting on on on tape so i encourage you to go to drmcdougle.com if you get interested in what we're doing and why i don't think you'd be disappointed in what we have to say and certainly the cost is not going to scare you away it'll be a 60 drop in your food bill if you happen to be eating the way ice deep all right well let's uh let me just get into the lecture and i'm sure you'll have plenty of questions to ask as we go along uh i started out well i started out in 1971 by meeting this co-author one of the luckiest days of my life it was an operating room we were pinning the hip together and i only saw her eyes and i fell in love so anyway we we started our relationship very shortly after that and uh we're both tired of living in michigan believe me oregon is much nicer than michigan and we were thinking to move to the west coast but we went even further we decided to move to hawaii and there i did an internship for a year i did a surgical internship we didn't want to leave hawaii we fell in love and i took a job on a sugar plantation and that's where my whole life changed i became a sugar plantation doctor which by the way if you go to hawaii these days and you even go to where i used to live in honokaa on the big island and you ask them about sugar plantation doctors they have no idea they don't know even what they are i recently read a book that mentioned sugar plantation doctors it was like it was a new thing something of ancient times well i used to be one back between 1973 and 1976 i took care of 5 000 people i caught 100 babies i did brain surgery in the middle of the night i really learned how to be a doctor but i also learned two important things during my plantation days experience on the sugar plantation between 73 and 76 what i learned i was a terrible doctor the reason i came to that conclusion is i was raised in the air of marcus welby dr kildare and dan casey and i knew what i was supposed to do but i wasn't doing it people weren't getting these miracles now they did when it came to acute problems like lacerations broken bones infections everybody was happy i was happy as a doctor they were happy as patients but when it came to chronic disease which is what over 80 percent of people suffer from chronic indigestion chronic constipation chronic cancers chronic heart disease chronic obesity chronic ms arthritis on and on 80 of the diseases we have only symptom relief for we have no cures and we end up quite honestly and i know these treatments very well i'm a not only a medical doctor but a board-certified internist and somebody that's passionate about the scientific literature uh they actually the current treatments actually do more harm than good in most cases so i learned that i took it personal that i was doing more harm than good i didn't realize that it was what i was taught and then the second thing i learned as a plantation doctor was how to eat i ate a terrible diet before uh before then back when mary married me she was surprised that i wanted three eggs for breakfast every day and meat for every meal and so she said nobody eats this way i said yes i do but of course you know i had a personal history the ex went along with how i ate i had a stroke when i was 18 that's one of the walk like i do and i had major abdominal surgery and i was 90 pounds heavier than i am now yeah but fortunately i had this experience between 1973 and 1976. i was taking care of these 5 000 sugar plantation patients they were first second third and fourth generation first generation had come from their native lands of the philippines japan korea china and uh they either brought a bride with them or they got a mail-order bride and started a family in hawaii now the first generation they maintained their diet of rice and vegetables if the chicken lost the fight on saturday they had a little chicken for the week and that was it no dairy you know once while they'd like to catch a fish but that was basically the diet the first generation these the people who moved from japan and the philippines to hawaii to start a new life they had their kids there and the kids were influenced by western eating texas driving the home of the malasada was just up the street from us first mcdonald's came to hilo in 1974. i was one of their first best customers but you could see the changes in the second generation they got fatter and sicker and by the time you got to the third generation i was taking care of all generations i was a family doctor by the time you got to the third and fourth generation they were actually sicker than the people i trained on when i trained in michigan for my medical training and nothing that changed as far as a work environment still the same kind of work on the plantation uh nothing else had really changed genetics of course hadn't changed in a hundred years what had changed was the food and my first generation the thing was is almost all of them were without medication of any kind they were always trimmed they were working into their 80s as long as we're talking about marriage uh one of if you lived in hawaii at that time one of the things that would strike you is the fact that there were 60 70 80 year old men who were married in 20 year old brides and having family that's function hey mary didn't i tell you 40 years ago i want to be able to do that when i got 40 years from now you don't have to tell them what i can or not anyway um i i was struck by how healthy this first generation was i saw progressively people getting fatter and sicker as the families came in and that was my first indication the diet had anything to do with disease because i was taught just like you it had nothing to do with disease now they probably will still teach that i know they do anyway we stayed at the plantation for three years and then i became so frustrated as a doctor i decided i because i was a lousy doctor nobody's getting well and i was hurting my patients when it came to chronic disease i mean chronic means it doesn't get better right so after three years i went back into training i became a board certified internist and uh fortunately i had a library there and i became very passionate in the scientific literature and i went out into practice shortly afterwards then we moved to california i worked at saintly in the hospital for 16 years running a lifestyle clinic that was an experience the way i took care of about oh 3 000 people during that period of time i personally took care of them i'm not the kind of doctor that just talks about patients i i've taken care of over 10 000 people personally and i had a chance to do this at one of the most famous heart hospitals in the world saintly the hospital but 16 years was enough particularly since 80 percent of the hospital supported by the heart surgeons it was time for me to leave so i set up a clinic in 2002 which we run in san lures of california today we ceo usually 60 people at a time we give them full medical care i'll show you the results in a little bit we take care of various companies and we're looking for more companies to take care of their employees like for example we take care of the employees at uh to whole foods markets and at centurylink communications and we used to take care of them from several other companies but really that's the way to expand this kind of thinking because there's money involved in other words sick employees are costly so in many ways so we have gotten our our message off to uh the public in that manner but we still have programs that are open to the public all right so i i put this this presentation together same slide right i knew i was it was there i'm just surprised that somebody anyway we took off a lot of people to co street i put this presentation together and i showed it to these folks and they enjoyed it and i told them it was the first time i hope it didn't sound like it that i gave it and then i came home i sat down with my three grandsons they were six eight and ten at that time and i asked them if they'd watch this presentation with me and tell me whether or not they understood what i was saying and i figured if they could understand what i was saying anybody could understand what i was saying so they said grandpa yeah we'll we'll watch it we'll watch it with you i said well do you know what these things are they say oh yeah those are traffic lights you know what they mean oh yeah we know what they mean grandpa uh let's go this is caution stop so i said well i'm gonna put some traffic lights in this presentation and you know what it means and uh then each and every slide i ask them do you know what this means and they answered me and they could tell me oh six-year-old eight-year-old ten-year-old they could tell me so i knew it was fit for any audience all right the problem i have had is getting people to change making the change it's difficult when it comes to foods as opposed to other bad habits which are addictions and destructive behavior when you quit smoking you only have to do one thing you just breathe clean air that's it you put alcohol you just do one thing you quit the booze but food it becomes very difficult what do i do skim my milk skin my chicken you know eat more or less gluten or whatever you know all kinds of advice out there and people get confused so what i thought i would do was to make a presentation that where it was just as clear as what you do when you quit heroin or you quit any type of drug uh i was gonna make it that simple so i developed a concept called food poisoning and uh food poisoning well what's food poisoning well it could be like uh when the explorers went to the arctic i forgot anybody remember who it was a hundred years ago yeah somebody remember shackle antarctic yeah that was arctic it was the arctic anyways it was a book about do you remember the name of the book mary shackleton yeah was he in the antarctic yeah oh well anyway uh his men got sick there's only one pull away [Laughter] his men got sick and ate uh quickly figured out the doctor quickly figured out it was due to lead poisoning from the cans that the tomato sauce was in so uh what the surgeon did on the team and these women were dying they were losing their hair and their nails and so on is what he did is he stopped the food poisoning and they were cured and so it is with other types of food poisoning bacterial microbe food poisoning etc various chemical food poisonings what you do is you identify the poison you stop it and then you get better because you have this natural healing ability which is almost unstoppable uh without this miracle we none of us would be around the doctors would look just horrible all right so food poisoning here are some of the diseases that are caused by food poisoning and not you you recognize them eighty percent of people are overweight in our society and or obese whether it's up to 39 percent of obese they predict close to seven to eighty percent of the southeastern countries will be obese not overweight but obese by 2030. uh that's one result of food poisoning is obesity diabetes both type 1 and type 2 although any conversations that i make during this next hour will be about type 2 diabetes not type 1 unless i specify type 1. so type 2 diabetes is associated problems a heart disease food poisoning various kinds of inflammatory arthritis one of the most fun problems that we treat at my clinic is inflammatory arthritis like rheumatoid lupus psoriatic the benefits start in four to seven days usually by four months the patients are cured you know their joints don't straighten out of course but they stop having attacks cancers so the prostate breasts colon and many others are in fact even lung cancer and skin cancer diet related to some extent what do you think do you think what you put in your stomach could have anything to do with its health and if it took thanks to nexium and the purple pill we all know about gerd right yeah that's the only reason we know about it is because of these manufacturers they they needed customers the grandkids loved the slide yeah they just rolled around on the floor after i showed them that one and you know the interesting thing is here they are in elementary school and they knew what was going on you know they had stories with mom and i and it's done they talk about you know their friends and how their friends would go into the bathroom and they'd hear these terrible noises coming out of the bathroom and they'd be in there 15 20 minutes and for my grandkids and my children you know it's a 45-second ordeal they're back on the playing field and i'm not joking [Music] all right well we've known about food poisoning throughout history i'm going to go back thousands of years and know that people who ate rich foods got fat and sick uh the kings and queens without in their feet obesity diabetes etc it's an old story now the common person who had to live on the basic diet which was grains and legumes and potatoes and so on they stayed trim healthy hard-working building pyramids and bridges and et cetera for the pharaohs the kings the queens the priests and so on they didn't eat the food that the laborers ate they fed that food to the animals and the animals and they got sick when you decide if you are a doctor or a patient when you decide to solve your problems you must do it with the same fortitude that you deal with other problems in my more than 50 years of medical practice i have never seen a smoker quit by cutting down ever the only way i've seen quit is they said today's the day and i know i'll suffer for a while and they don't do it again i've never seen a drunk solve their problems by switching to beer and wine okay i mean there's only one way to do it same with hair on cocaine bad wives etc you've got to get rid of 100 percent and so it is with food is that you have to identify what the problems are like the tobacco or the alcohol poisoning and then you have to take a stand like nancy reagan told they used to do back during her reign as vice president didn't she she said no that's the attitude you had to take did i say something wrong nancy reagan she wasn't vice president no no she wasn't my she was the president's wife thank you i knew i said something wrong just like the polls thank you yeah cheney was president thank you very much and by the way have you seen that movie vice yes all right so uh one category of food poison is animal foods uh animal foods are not our food that's one of the basic problems and that's because we're not designed as animal food eaters we could go through all the anatomy and physiology etc and you would come down to the conclusion that we're built to eat not a carnivorous diet but a plant-based diet i had a cat here's my last pet last time i saw him was october 8 9 2017. uh because the next day everything i owned was gone and the cat used to come einstein was his name he used to come to my door uh several times a week and he'd bring me a gift he would bring me a little snake or a little bird uh or in this case he brought me a mouse and uh he'd come with a big smile like dad what can i practice you and that was his food see that was my food i had no no no temptation at all to eat that the second category of food poison is free oil okay it's not the oil that's mixed up in the food naturally it's free oil like corn oil safflower oil olive oil etc that's the second category of food poisoning so if the first category is animal foods sub category is free oils some of you especially those who were brought here kicking and screaming you're sitting there thinking to yourself what am i going to eat there's nothing left that's until you discover starch and the importance of starches what i'm talking which is what i'm going to talk to you about tonight this is the human diet we are star cheaters starchyvorgs starchitarians until you learn this you will be out of control in your personal appearance as well as your health until you realize that we are start jeters now i thought it was very appropriate to show some work that was recently done here at osu in fact i've tried to get a hold of the researchers to have a meeting with them and i've tried on two attempts so far not successful but they re published a research paper oh let's see 2016. what's 160. okay thank you and uh what they did right here your university a world-changing experiment what they did is they blocked you know there are actually six taste buds on the tongue there is a taste bud for msg there's a taste bud for salt sweet bitter and sea salt sweet bitter and sour okay so those are five and then there was a taste bud discovered fat but rather than being on a taste bud of attraction it was a taste bud of repulsion in other words if you could taste fat you didn't eat it okay so there's the six taste but nobody ever talks about that i didn't talk about that in the paper this is the last taste bud discovered this was discovered right here what they did is they blocked the sweet tasting taste buds on the tip of the tongue and they also blocked the conversion of amylase into simple sugar and then what they did is they stimulated the subjects with various starchy foods and they found that they responded to with starch taste buds that were previously unrecognized with a strength similar to that of the attraction to sugar which is where we should get our energy from so we have starch tasty taste buds as powerful as sugar tasting taste buds that help us secure our food you know bitter and sour are there to prevent us from poisoning ourselves or they identify medicinal issues the salt tasting taste bud is there so we get minerals in for necessary administer for health the sweet tasting taste buds which we thought were the only ones there to attract us to our energy source okay osu found taste buds just as powerful for starch not sugar but starch all right that's a slight i just added for you guys uh the other food in a healthy diet that you eat are non-starchy green and yellow vegetables the problem here is that's what the emphasis is to people who are trying to change uh trying to eat a better diet they're being told to eat a nutrient-dense diet a diet with uh cauliflower broccoli kale lettuce etc and they're actually told to eat a limited amount of starch with the belief that starches make you fat or for some other evil of starches and people try this this kind of eating and they pretty soon save themselves well my stomach is terribly grumbling i'm starving to death you can't do that you'd have to eat 11 pounds of cabbage a day to live on these nutrient-dense diets they're impossible you have to get a calorie dense source so that you can live but some green yellow vegetables are fine but they're different than starches do you understand okay starches are what we call above ground and below ground above ground starches are seeds such as grains and legumes and below ground star or blue ground storage organs are root vegetables like tubers and potatoes sweet potatoes etc so those are your main foods these are side dishes for color flavor texture aroma maybe some nutrients actually these do contain vitamin a and c which is important if you're going to eat a above ground source of starch because grains and legumes are inadequate in a and c so if you're going to eat a diet based on say rice only you have to add a little bit of broccoli a little bit of you know orange slice of orange will do to get the anc however below ground storage organs are complete potatoes are known as the anti-scurvy vegetable so you can live on a diet of potatoes and water the starch must be the centerpiece i think it's reasonable to add for the reasons i gave you these foods and we just serve them at our program and likewise fruit is the other category of food that you should be eating how much a little bit not a lot uh fruits are familiar they're tasty people love to eat a lot of them but i think two or three days fine they're uh simple sugars they don't add much satiety and that's the problem with people who try and be fruitarians is they're constantly hungry because the simple sugars are digested real quickly whereas the starches they break down slowly and they give you the energy all day long so again you should have not recommended a whole food plant-based diet because it could be all fruits i'm recommending a starch-based diet with the addition of fruits and vegetables and avoid food poisons all right so the way you cure food poisoning is just like the way you cure alcohol or tobacco poisoning or cocaine poison or heroin poisoning you should stop them because it's no more complicated that you just stop the food poisons your body naturally gets swell research on this goes back tens of thousands of years no religious intention for this slide but it points out a controlled trial that was done two thousand six hundred years ago a controlled trial that's lasted the test of time in the first chapter of the bible where daniel asked the gatekeeper they were serving special king's food on their visit to this kingdom and he asked the gatekeeper can i feed my men pulses and water or vegetables and water let's describe various ways various versions of the bible and the gatekeeper said sure and uh daniel and his men but they said they evaluated they asked if they would evaluate their health 10 days later and they found those who lived on the vegetables and water were far healthier and younger looking than those who ate the king's diet 2500 years ago now when you contemplate giving up dairy and meat probably the first thing that comes to mind is the idea that you're going to be a nutritional disaster you're just going to fall apart way on the ground won't have any bones worthwhile the truth of the matter is is the best performers in the world live on star space diets uh one discovery about well about 10 years ago was a grave plot in ephesus and which is now present-day turkey and uh is in the 60-foot square grave plot they found about 60 skeletons and with those skeletons they found their tools of occupation which were shields and swords and tridents and they also noticed trident holes in the skulls of some of the some of the skeletons so they quickly understood that these were gladiators that were being buried and then what they did is they analyzed their bones and you can tell what someone's long-term diet has been based upon the mineral content of the bones or hair and what they determined with these gladiators their long-term diets were vegan and they compared them with people who lived outside of this occupation at that particular time 1800 years ago and they found that they ate a different diet one with animal products now this fits in with the discussions of gladiators over the last 2000 years if you read about the gladiators they're often referred to as the barley men because they lived on barley and some beans and that's all now why do you think they lived on barley and beans well if you were if you were a horse owner and you had a horse running in the kentucky derby what would you do as far as horse nutrition would you ask your horse what do you like to eat today no you'd feed the horse the best diet possible to win the kentucky derby right okay so the people who owned these people fed them a vegan diet of starch so they would win because it was bad for them to lose in the coliseum so our gladiators today they do the same thing uh they live on starts the winners dude the losers they're in the back of the pack you know talking about how good meat is for you uh here's an example if you follow the marathons and triathlons what you find is the winners by and large the chicago the boston the honolulu marathon the winners have come most recently from kenya and ethiopia in fact between 1987 and 2016 40 of the first place winners were from kenya in ethiopia and they have studied them and it's reported in run of the world and other magazines that the reason they are such high performance high endurance athletes is because they live on a diet primarily of starch it's corn in this case yeah so you know you shouldn't just carbohydrate load the day before the race you should carbohydrate download every day all right the benefits they have quickly uh usually within 24 hours we see patients we see them every day i have up to seven doctors working for me let's see patients with big groups and uh what we find is within the first 24 hours people get ready for constipation and digestion curb fatigue in fact when our resort knows we're coming they always order extra toilet paper within four months most of the problems are gone i mean you're not gonna lose a hundred pounds four months let's say with an average weight loss of ten pounds a month it's going to take you a little longer but most of the problems like the inflammation that causes joints to hurt the chest pains you get from the narrowed arteries and the bowel problems the diarrhea and the constipation etc if they're going to be resolved by a change of diet they're gone with about four months it's a unique treatment in fact that it's uh cost free and side effect free but it's got a problem that's profit free yeah uh here's where we're on the program we run it all over the united states we run it in lakeland florida minneapolis minnesota we run it now in santa rosa california and what the program involves is a starch-based meal plan that's the primary thing light exercise now we have people that come who are olympic athletes some people come into wheelchairs so we have a whole spectrum of activity that we offer people we provide full medical care our doctors are board certified internists or family practitioners there's no meditation you can think whatever you want as long as you do what i ask you to do as far as the food goes and medications have reduced as i say we've held it in many places in the country and i can set up this program with 72 hours in any hotel in the world it's very simple uh results we have published several studies in fact we've published seven papers uh let me show you one of the results of this is one analysis of the data the weight loss average weight loss eating as much as you want this is buffet style and it is you know two course meals two soups desserts even brownies and chocolate pudding and you know all you can possibly eat and really really tasty food our average weight loss for women is 3.1 pounds in seven days eating as much as you can and what no one is excluded from this data men 3.6 pounds that's looking at 1 615 people nobody was excluded average drop cholesterol 22 points there was no change in cholesterol medication during this time in fact we keep people on statins usually till the end of the program then which will often take them off but this is the average drop in cholesterol that occurs the sicker people are the better they get see if you started with a really high cholesterol you get a big drop started with a lower cholesterol smaller drop so the sicker you are the happier i am because the better you'll get i run this program out of self interest i really enjoy taking care of people and seeing them get better uh blood pressure drops in seven days these are people who really needed to be on medication average drug blood pressure 23 over 14 millimeters of mercury but what you don't see here is that we took nearly 90 percent of people off most or all of their medication except for the cholesterol meds uh paper is published here in the journal of nutrition uh it has not been questioned it was published i believe in 2014 yeah 2014. and uh uh even though it's been out for five years i've not had one negative comment nobody said you exaggerated the data or you weren't completing your paper but it details what happened to 1 615 people over 10 days and what happened was they had an average weight loss of 3.1 pounds eating as much as it could take food back to the room we encourage it can you vouch for the taste of the food yeah it really is exceptional because of mary and uh average cost i'll drop 22 points this is in i've told you this 18 over 11 millimeters dropping blood pressure when i was 140 over 90 or greater and we reduced or stopped nearly 90 percent of the medications sick people take drugs sick people go to surgeries our goal is to get people out of these treatments and to get them out of the treatment you have to fix the problem and the problems of food ah let's see oh hsu your competitor no no not even i don't know what politics around here in colleges are yet but uh ohsu we did a study we started it in i don't know about 2014. no no we started earlier than that anyway we started with the neurology department at ohsu and they first of all started out as interested but non-believers the diet had anything to do with multiple cirrhosis even though roy swank had been the head of neurology there for 23 years and his data showed that you could stop ms dr roy swank you may not know him it's worth trouble to find out about uh he was head of neurology to hsu for 23 years and when i came here originally to do our study they referred to him as a quack when i left they had nothing but reverence not only for him but for all of our work things changed a lot uh here's the paper we published again it's extremely well written those of you involved in the research will say you could have done better a randomized controlled trial you can't double blind a food trial only pills can you double blind so a randomized the highest quality possible and we publish these results and it really changed the topic of nutritional conferences worldwide or neurology conferences worldwide they are now much more focused on diet for all neurological diseases but particularly ms uh dennis bordet had a neurology at ohsu told me one time he wanted to be known as the diet ms center of the world yeah because the swanks work for 23 years and i work with them for 10. uh so maybe some of you know dennis bardette he's had a neurology there still i remember one day i walked into his office and he said to me john says you know in all my years of practice he says i've never had anybody thank me for putting them on interfering beta or any other ms drug i want you to know in the last two years the patients i've seen from this study have walked into my office in tears and hugged me and thanked me for what we did for them but i can still tell you at ohsu they're pushing drugs like mad my meeting with him a few months ago and i said to my principal investigator vijay i said uh how can you keep doing this i uh i said look paper just came out and the lancet that showed that there's no benefit to long-term treatment of these drugs and they're costing the patient 75 dollars a year just for the medicine and vj looks at me she says no it's 150 000 a year now i said boy am i out of date anyway these are some of the results the first thing that happened was when mary and i was in november of i don't know i know it's november we walked into vijay's office she had a smile on her face from here to here she says you know you can't believe what our initial results show this was after one year of research our initial results showed that people complied with the diet we can't even get them to take our pills what they thought by the way this the only thing i provided was the education i didn't pick the patients i didn't gather the results i didn't do any of the tests i didn't do anything exams i did no collection or analysis of the data i did nothing to do as far as the publication this was entirely independent and they published these results what they found what this translates into is the they initially started at 40 fat in their diet the control group was asked to stay on the typical american diet for the treatment of ms this is the intervention group they came to our 10-day program we educated them just like we do the other people on our 10-day program nothing different maybe especially a couple words about swank and ms and they dropped their fat intake down to around 15 percent and maintained it for a year in this paper you will read that 85 percent of the participants were able to maintain the diet for a year now you tell me where else you can get those kinds of compliance results you can't get people to take drugs at that rate and you know why they complied yeah because you get these as much as you would food tastes great you get well you're never hungry so this this guy just pulled one of these charts out we got drops in cholesterol of 20 points 20 milligrams per deciliter maintained for a year we had a 20 pound weight loss almost 20 pound weight loss maintained for a year we have drops in uh crps uh 85 compliance drops in weight and cholesterol reduced fatigue scores about 80 percent of people with ms have to quit work or curtail some of their activities because they're so tired uh we got a reduction fast insulin and also a reduction in the inflamma inflammatory markers again no one has questioned this data or how about some really long-term results now here i've i've shown you beyond a shadow of a doubt yeah there's nothing that we did that would anybody cause anyone to question our research and our methods and the results but uh so i pretty much convinced you that over seven days you can maintain some improvement in health by the parameters that we think are important and i've shown you you can do it over a year with a randomized controlled trial done independently at ohsu now you want to see what the long-term results are i mean the really long-term results well i've not been able to do a study on them but i can tell you that when you see these stories i want you to think about jenny craig or nutrisystems or the other weight loss gimmicks that are solely out there where they show you a case example and they tell you don't expect these results this is the best case scenario well ladies and gentlemen you should expect these results these are not the best case scenarios this is typical oh let's see i'm just going to show you some pictures what i want you to notice is that it took a while to lose the weight uh she went down night with 90 pounds and took her 10 months anyway you see these values see all their blood pressure drop close glucose and cholesterol i won't read all these to you but you can look at them this lady uh the twin cities newspaper called me a couple years ago and they said we're trying to find somebody with morbid obesity who was cured and we've locked our team all over the world uh weight loss ridge national weight loss registry which has thousands of people in them uh all over the world we said we could not find a single person who fit their criteria which were the patient had to uh had to start out of that bmi over 50 percent and they had to maintain their weight loss for over five years and i showed them a sort of a whole bunch of these pictures and not didn't make it didn't make it well finally i showed her this lady and put her in contact with her and she started with a 53 bmi and uh this was at 10 years it's probably 20 years now she's on the discussion board yeah so she's still encouraging people to eat well a fellow from hawaii that was a friend of ours it's 30 years in 1991 almost 30 years ago this lady this lady wouldn't go to costa rica she wouldn't go because she was too embarrassed and she says uh i dreaded family photos uh before january 2007 now it's been a long time since i like any picture of myself now i can't pick which one i like yeah and there she is on the costa rica trip remember that part of it yeah and another lady for 20 years oh this lady i don't know what the heck she's doing she lost uh she usually actually put her in the start solution book was published in 2011. and she went from lost 92 pounds two years this is back though before 2011. so it must have been about 2007 2008. she lost that weight covered a whole bunch of problems and uh i wonder how she's doing how are you doing there cloudy you look pretty good you know i hate to tell you this i hate to admit this but the only reason i'm here tonight is because they're cloudy because i got confused and i thought it was next thursday but she wrote me this morning and said you know i'm going to see you tonight because we have a chance to talk and i said well you're all week off guess it was the week off thank you connie anyway but by the way that i didn't put that slide in there that's always in there in the presentation uh this guy he couldn't play with his kids we met him oh probably 35 years ago pretty sick man 2 450 pounds 25 prescriptions uh he lost the weight this guy was a cfo of the state of wisconsin it's the typical results i mean there are as far as i can remember no exceptions there are lots of people who wouldn't do it you know that's not what we're talking about but people who really followed a starch-based diet with no free oils you know some had to limit nuts seeds and avocados they all get the same results but you have to remember there are things that are permanently damaged like if you cut off your finger it's not going to grow back if you start eating potatoes or if you have crooked joints from arthritis they're not going to straighten out because you start eating rice you just stop the active disease is all you do all right so all you do is you identify the problem i gave you the problems two categories of food i showed you what to eat and you fix the problem by fixing the problem all right let's go over it again this is what you do not eat see the red lights einstein would love this if i brought einstein to whole foods he may be still alive i don't know but i brought him into whole foods up just so i can film the story mary and i left california because of the wildfires in 2017 we lost everything maybe the cat too well anyway uh but einstein if i took him to whole foods and i took him down the meat counter he'd be jumping over the counter scratching the butcher to go after his food this is his food it's not your food i couldn't get you to eat this i couldn't get you to eat that our daughter used to have a farm it was burnt down too used to have a farm and they had some chickens on it to clean up all the scraps of things not to eat they didn't need them i bet if i brought one of those chickens in that she was raised and i had them run around here none of you did even if you had a good meal here you wouldn't eat it i could take the feathers off you still wouldn't eat it i could boil it you still wouldn't need it you'd only eat it if i covered it up with steak sauce barbecue sauce or something else to disguise the flavor and then you'd eat it einstein would eat a raw okay food poisons we could go into the whole fish thing if you want in the question and answer period but this is as toxic as any of the other muscles that you eat in some ways more toxic to be clear i mean mostly recognize these rich foods right so it should feed the fat king and queen and the americans who look like kings and queens i i'm shocked you know maybe i have not been out of the house enough but i am just shocked every place i go with the obesity problems i see oh we don't serve any fake meats either no no uh boca burgers you know tofu hot dogs or because they're they're concoctions what they are they're not really food they just take a bunch of chemicals put them together make them look like meat or cheese and they're really as toxic almost as toxic there are reasons to make the switch for environment and maybe maybe for environment and probably for animal rights but as far as health issues you're not making a change you have any meaning uh oil i mean think about it for a minute what do you think happens to the oil that you eat it just like comes out of your ears vanishes the fat you eat is the fat you wear either under your skin or on your skin go someplace all right but i i would bet i don't know this for sure maybe things have changed since the last time i was at the university talking to the nutrition department but i would bet there are some respected teachers scientists doctors around here who still believe you need to eat meat and dairy i would bet it's nutritionally necessary however what question i would ask them is if protein is so important why have i never seen a case of protein deficiency if i say protein you say what meat right or eggs or dairy but there's never been a case of protein deficiency ever reported in the entire world literature except instead of starvation then you're everything deficient so there's no such thing as prostate deficiency if i say calcium you say what well there's never been a case of calcium deficiency ever reported on any normal diet any any diet of any kind ever in all of world history and synthetic diets yes but no natural diet and i say omega-3 fats you say what fish no fish has ever made an omega-3 fat only plants can desaturate at the carbon 3 in the carbon-6 position so the only reason that fish have omega-3s is because they ate algae or seaweed why not go to the original source and avoid all the problems and leave the fish alone since i since i had started entering the ocean when i was a boy 90 of the sea life is gone and people who could still still contend that they must have their fish i say go ahead hurry up eat it up because there's only a little bit left and then it'll all be gone and it will all right so this is a a normal business practice i want you to understand it's not a conspiracy these are pictures people doing business and what they're using here is a technique called unique positioning you take something that is unique about your product and you advertise it to the public you don't tell them about the things that are bad like when it comes to cars it used to be people concerned about gas mileage back in the old days now i guess they're not concerned anymore but uh they would advertise cars like the prius until you got 57 miles per gallon and you applauded and bought one but they put nothing in the ad about how it was built so light and flimsy you're most likely killed in an accident you know that's the way business works so the fact that meat has a lot of iron and protein etc they focus on that even though the lack of meat is not the cause of iron deficiency anemia and there's never been a case of protein deficiency ever reported on any natural diet same thing with calcium fish etc it's just business unique positioning that's it all right why do i believe so strongly our starch eaters is because we always have been i used to say that 99 percent or 99 uh or 9.9 of the 10 billion people who've walked this earth had lived on starch-based diets and then a professor from a university said no i've calculated the footprints on this planet that have occurred since existence and he said my estimate is that there have been closer to a hundred billion people on the planet and uh that would make it 99.99999 percent of the people who lived on starch-based diets think about it you know this i'm most you're old enough and many of you have read about your history books what were the diets of people before before 1980 certainly before 1950 and and in more ancient times for example the diet of the folks that lived in the central america the aztecs and mayans they were known as what people the corn for 300 years they fought battles they went through athletic competition they had babies they built pyramids they for 1300 years on corn as their basic source of food south america good on there a little bit further south america and you find the people in the andes lived on potatoes they're like four to six hundred different species of potatoes except when they went into battle then the incas would take quinoa because it was lighter carrot than potatoes but that was their diet ah let's see when you think of asia you think of rice right up until 90 up until 1980 90 of the food on the typical asians plate was white rice up until 1980. uh a article published in jama in 2013 that's the journal of the american medical association they stated in that article the chinese population now 12 of them are frankly diabetic and half are pre-diabetic but they also noted in the discussion that before 1980 there was virtually no obesity and no diabetes in china and 90 percent of their diet was rice white rice you've seen this you got many of you are old enough to have seen this let's talk to dr ripple i mean he went through the vietnam conflict like i did you'd see town squares of a hundred thousand people from vietnam and not a single fat person and they say well if you don't eat the meat you try and live on rice you won't have any strength to even get up and do your daily work well good grief we almost lost world war world war ii the star cheaters but we lost the korea the uh vietnamese conflict to star cheaters so if rice is so bad and particularly white rice we don't we don't serve white white rice that are clinical we serve brown rice but i want to put things in perspective for you uh let's see where else could we go anyway africa we have millet and so on american indians basically corn all large successful populations of people throughout all the verifiable history have obtained the bulk of their calories from starch now i want you to remember that sentence because if any of you have any questions of the truth or the relevance of that sentence i want you to bring it up all large successful populations of people throughout all of verifiable history have obtained the bulk of their calories from starch give me an exception when the questions come all right well this is what you get these so you have yellow green lights eat as much as you want mary and i have this every morning for breakfast we serve this clinic that's a nice-looking soup isn't it i went to india i let you in mumbai about three years ago and i'll tell you they're backward the doctors practiced just like americans and worse unbelievable india and mumbai i was lecturing to the hospitals the doctors and uh as far as abusive patients go in terms of over treatment with medicines and surgeries the u.s is behind india and what it's doing to its population these these the doctors that i met have such egos they want to be modern so badly the patients don't count at all it really surprised me i felt like a country of india that just went through the modernization of their diet would have at least enough knowledge to realize that their diet has changed in the last 30 years and that their parents and grandparents lived on a starch-based diet i thought they would all recognize that it was uh four years ago the lancet reported that now the middle class in india is as sick as the upper class yeah the lower class is still relatively healthy anyway they like that picture when i showed it at the mumbai hospitals how about this good looking did you naturally feel or appeal to this yeah how about that steak i showed you uncooked probably have to add some parsley too wouldn't you may give it some color all right potatoes mashed potatoes i could live on mashed potatoes i think the reason i'm alive today is because my mother knew how to make mashed potatoes and that's about all she could make and so we'd have at least once a week mashed potatoes corn and peas with a brown gravy of course you know what the brown gravy was made of but it was my favorite meal i would eat just plates full of it if i had one food to choose that's all i had was that water it would be potatoes and there are populations of people millions of people who have had to live on potatoes and water alone and there are scientific experiments where people have been raised and studied in metabolic wards for a year or a year and a half and found to be in excellent health and to love an all-potato diet yet the potato is very maligned in our society sweet potatoes bread comfort food isn't the reaction you have to this there's a reason why you like this there's a reason this appeals to you and not the raw chicken or the raw beef or it's because this is your food you even have taste buds identified at the osu that make you clearly a starch eater anyway i'll just show you a few pictures we serve white rice we serve the adventure trips but we don't serve at the clinic that's what we had for lunch today stopped at a uh japanese restaurant on the way up woodburn so where it was it's the way down you're not gonna catch me again on the way down um stopped in a in a japanese restaurant where we had a great meal pretty healthy you don't have to make this complex in fact i encourage people and marry this too to find one thing you like for breakfast like we have oatmeal every morning with some fruit and find one thing you like for lunch or we usually eat leftovers from the night before from dinner um you know find two or three things you like for dinner that's all we do we have you know three or four dishes that either mary makes or we have someone else make for us we just repeat them over and over again you know people are very monotonous in their eating think about it when you go to a restaurant what do you order off the menu at that restaurant the same thing every time so just find three or four or five things or two things or whatever that you like need them over and over start space real simple whole grains sandwiches fruits some i usually recommend one to four a day people with high triglycerides less they should eat less and i don't know you could make the argument that people want to lose weight should eat less or three or four a day because fruit is so easy to eat because we're so familiar with them that's so sweet than the time we've been talking you'd you could eat 20 peaches yeah and if there are dried peaches all right you eat some starchy vegetables side dishes okay is everybody clear on the difference between starch and nutrient dense green yellow vegetables all right we use a little bit of soy as tofu things you can make in your kitchen or your washroom have been made for 5 000 years but we don't serve any fake foods and we serve them as a delicacy and people come and say i don't like tofu well you know very few of the dishes have tofu and you don't have to eat them you take the tofu out nuts and seeds if you need to gain weight if you need to gain weight they're not unhealthy they're just very rich that's why they put them in hard shells 90 fat avocados again we we had some avocados in our sushi rolls today but mary and i do not have a problem gaining too much weight uh dried fruits again you could eat two or three or five or ten whole peaches you could eat 20 or 30 dried peaches the time we're talking so if calories count and calories do count they do count in the sense that the fat you eats the fat you wear and the body prefer to burn carbohydrate sugar starch so it's going to leave the fat in your fat cells but the body does not convert sugar into fat in any significant amount which again i'd love to have a challenge on from you because people think obesity is due to eating sugar well the body is extremely inefficient at de novo lipogenesis which is the conversion of carbohydrate to fat it does it very poorly so another big fat lie that's keeping people big in fat uh you do not improve the quality of fruit and veg fruit or vegetable by hitting a thousand times the steel blade so if you want to drink juices fine if you're in good health you know the extra sweetness extra calories etc most people can tolerate but it's not as good as the whole food you don't need more nutrients uh we use a little salt sugar and spice why because we want you to eat the food yeah people question this and there are many of my colleagues that have salt and sugar-free diets that's fine but people naturally love salt and sugar don't they we talked about the tip of the time when i first started we're attracted to salt and sugar and starch as osu proved so uh we put salt shakers on the table we have a little brown sugar in the morning for the cereal and people add to the surface of the food and that way they get the maximum taste the minimum amount of you know questionable ingredient and they love the food because what you're missing when you come to our program is salt you know sushi and that's why i tell people the first night i said the salt shaker's there for a reason put it on the food and then what happens over the next few days is they make an adjustment eventually don't even bother so you know you remember the mary poppins movie yeah a little bit of sugar makes the medicine go down you bet we recommend no supplements supplements are not only a waste your money they're toxic they uh increase the risk according to cochrane collaboration reviews uh considerably all the big studies shown taking things like folic acid and beta-carotene keratin vitamin d etc increase the risk of heart disease cancer and overall death by 20 to 30 percent why because these concentrated isolated nutrients cause nutritional imbalances in the cells and you become sicker the only exception is vitamin b12 which is something we can go into later we i have recommended vitamin d b12 for the last 40 years why because there may be a risk of vitamin b12 deficiency it's small less than one in a million but it's nothing i don't really want to be known for so mary and i do take vitamin b12 ourselves when we remember and we do recommend it to the to people who are on the diet strictly your risks are very small but why bother as far as i know vitamin b12 is not all that toxic it has some adverse effects a little sunshine a little exercise i mean a little sunshine and the hall you guys are well pretty i think pretty much everybody in here is literally white it's one of the things i noticed moving to oregon didn't you people change color anyway white people like me uh five minutes the sunshine at noon if the latitude of boston is sufficient three times a week for all of exposing your hands and cheeks that's it five minutes three times a week at noon at the latitude of boston will sufficiently produce all vitamin d a white person needs now asians three times as much blacks ten times as much why because they were their heritage comes from the equator they needed that pigment uh pigment protection but you know people from the equatorial areas have moved to new york and london they work all day long they wear heavy clothes so yeah it's a problem and one that can only be answered by sunshine because vitamin d pills or injections are toxic they increase the risk for fractures and falls three major studies and the only three i'm aware of in the last four years have shown that taking these supplements increases a person's risk of falls and fractures because it creates nutritional imbalances but sunshine is crucial so don't get them mixed up uh exercising well up until recently well up until recently i did no exercise at all except i go out sometimes 21 days in a row when surfing in the pacific ocean but i never exercised uh now since my 11 boards have got burned up in a fire i spent a little more time with my tennis shoes walking didn't exercise the next is important but you got to be careful think about it the people who you've known who've been killed or hospitalized in the last few years how'd that happen hit a pothole with her bike got hit by a car exercise is dangerous i mean you know i used to go out and swim with great whites i didn't do it because i thought i was good for my health i figured after i fell in the water once if they didn't bite me they wouldn't bite me for the rest of the day i'd be okay and i haven't all right one last thought and this is what i'm opening up the questions and since uh dr ripple invited me here it would be uh an opportunity for me to you know express a lot of my feelings about what's going on but you have a scientist here who understands the data much better than i can do but i can just tell you my reaction to what's going on and every day it gets worse because every day the reports get more concerning like the one last week that told us that we had 400 parts per million of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere which has never been seen all over earth's history okay there is also information that says from the world health organization that uh livestock production produces more global warming gases more environmental destruction than all travel all transfer all trail energy needs livestock production takes about 17 18 but that's from the who in 2007. the world watch institute which dr ripple and i've talked about they say reanalyzing data and other data that data and other data that over half the greenhouse gases are produced by the livestock industry now i started out as a doctor my only interest was in helping my patients cure their type 2 diabetes and heart disease and weight problems and arthritis etc and i really didn't care about animal rights and i didn't really care about the environment but that's my beginning 40 years ago and i have had my eyes opened over these times about the issues of animal rights i think are very extremely important uh it's not what gets me out of bed in the morning nor does taking care of patients get me out of bed in the morning what gets me out of the bed in the morning every morning and causes me to continue to try with whatever talent remains is what's happening to the environment i have seven grandchildren they have no future and if you think otherwise i don't know what to tell you so we have to make some dramatic changes and people are proposing all kinds of dramatic changes one change that no one's addressing or very few people are i'm just starting to talk about is the implication of food in solving saving the planet basically implication of food if you just look at it from objective point of view if it's greater than all transportation and all energy needs the impact of livestock as who says or if it's really half the greenhouse gases as w as the world watch institute says the impact of changing the diet is huge plus it's something that can be done tonight by individuals or even the whole world i mean if prime minister modi from india and putin from russia what's her president's name obama no that sounds nice um anyway other people that are really important to the world i said i wouldn't talk politics other people would stand up and say look ladies and gentlemen you got only a few more years and you got to make some changes and it has to be this that would give us time to get everybody driving a electric car you know all the roof tops filled with solar panels would give us time to save ourselves philadelphia robert goodland who dr whipple knows ripple knows uh dr dr goodman he was one of our presenters and uh he was very clear about this from the world watch institute that dye is the car that must be played or we don't have a chance the the potency the immediacy of what we can cause by getting the world to change their diet so my last message to you is no matter what talent you have whether you're a doctor or writer or a counter a lawyer or a mother or father whatever your position is whatever talents you have use them and use them with every bit of enthusiasm you possibly can you cannot wait and be moderate you cannot we don't have that kind of time you can't be nice you can't be politically correct you know i talk to people i say you know and i get into some controversies uh with folks that feel differently than i do and i basically tell them after they tell me about how important is for them to eat fish and cows and pigs and whatever else can't get away from after they tell me that i tell you look you're over 21 i don't really care i don't care what you eat or drink or smoke except for one thing and that is you're affecting my children and grandchildren's future so i do care just like if you were a drunk driver and i was on the highway i would care so that has become my main interest is whatever time i have left i want my children to look back and not say i want my grandchildren to look back and not say grandpa why didn't you try harder i would rather be in a position where with your efforts and my efforts and the other efforts have to be made we can really save this place it's worth it i think thank you very much thank you that's pretty that's pretty good

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