County Problem Solved?! / Goodbye Rosie (Rebuilding Tally Ho / EP93)

[Music] [Applause] hi my name is leo and i'm a boat builder and a sailor and i'm on a mission to rebuild and restore this 111 year old classic sailing up tally ho so first i just want to say a really quick but a really genuine uh and heartfelt thank you to everyone out there for the amazing amount of support and advice and good wishes that i have received since the last video where i talked about our issues with the county now there's a lot of news in this episode um both good and bad both exciting and sad but mostly positive i hope so i'm going to talk a lot more about that possible resolution we've come to regarding the county uh also going to talk about rosie's news later in the video as well but before we get to all that i seem to remember something about trying to rebuild a boat and uh it would be nice to get back to boat building for a bit so we're going to look at the planking progress we've made and address a few questions about planking that people have had and that we haven't answered yet [Music] [Applause] oh [Music] so [Music] [Music] so [Music] so [Music] um [Music] so you may remember that in the last video i cut out the shear planks for the starboard side those are the very top planks of the boat and they are made from angelique which is a different timber from most of the rest of the planks which are made from moana or red luro angelique is harder denser more rot resistant more durable but i didn't have much angelic left when i cut those planks out so it was actually a challenge to find enough clear timber to make them now i have to cut the shear planks for the other side of the boat the port side and of course it's now even trickier to find enough timber because there's even less of it left now i think there's enough but it's going to be a real squeeze it's going to be a real jigsaw to work around the defects because the only boards that i have left have a lot of defects in them i do kind of wish i'd ordered more angelique when i imported this timber from suriname but it's always hard to predict exactly how much you're going to need and of course you can't predict how many defects are going to be in the boards you get there's always going to be some it's just you don't know how many with the juana the red luro i definitely over ordered on purpose because i really didn't want to run out of that before we finished planking and i knew that being such nice long boards it would be very easy to sell it on if i needed to so we've got quite a bit of that left but we do have to use quite a bit more even after we've finished planking the hull later on we're going to use it for the bulwark planks and maybe even other parts of the boat so it's it's just really nice to have that nice long stock available right now though i've got to start trying to find that port side shear plank [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] so [Music] do [Music] so [Music] [Music] well i'm very pleased to say that i did just about manage to get the shear streak uh all the shear planks out of the angelic stock that i had and i think they've come out very nicely now it's hard to tell without really being able to stand back and look at the bone it's also hard to tell before these last two planks are in because then you'll be able to see all the seam lines now it was a real challenge to actually get these out of the angelique it looked probably like i was cutting these out of a big board and indeed i was but that board um that these off planks came out of was full of defects one entire side of the board was just full of uh big knots and big shakes just like really deep bad defects which you can't work around or plug so i was getting these planks out of sort of just a narrow strip of good wood on one side because of that i couldn't cut them the exact shape that i wanted they had to be sort of defined by the shape of the timber so i had to do some kind of creative funky edge setting here to just like uh force them into the shape that i wanted but they've come out fair they've come out at the right shape the right place they're all fastened now so they're not going to move at all the sort of residual stress that's in the wood from where we forced it into a different position that will ease out in not much time at all and you know there won't be any sort of long-term stress in this world if you had to take this plank off in a few years it would just stay the same shape as it is now [Music] so [Music] go [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh that's amazing you don't even need to hit it it's already [Music] i mean you could give it a tap for fun [Music] but that's almost like he knows what he's doing some people have been asking about how the planks are going to be finished on the exterior after the hole has been corked and faired they'll be primed sanded then painted which as opposed to using varnish or some kind of clear coat which is both more durable in terms of withstanding uv and also a lot less maintenance and then on the interior they will be oiled with something maybe kind of like boat soup another thing that people have been wondering is if it matters if we drill for rivets or bolts if we drill through the trennels and the reason it doesn't is two-fold one they are big enough that even if we drill through them they're still doing their job and two when we drill if we happen to drill through them uh they're made of wood so you can't even tell and also the rivets and the bolts that are going through are also doing the job of holding the frames and the fedex where they're supposed to be [Music] uh [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] so [Music] go fly fishing with this thing is it recording so pete i've had a few questions about the uh the hooks on the front of the lower plank set yeah what what what the hell about well there's not one here leo or anywhere else can you explain for us yeah so people have been asking about that um we call those nibs you know there's a hook here and a nib here the reason for that is uh because of the sweep of the forefoot here and the the angle at which these planks intersect it this would feather out super super thin where you want to be able to get a fastener very far forward um because the plank would get so thin so you'd have a feathered edge there and then as our planks as the as the forefoot and stem get more and more plum-ish uh steeper um you don't have all that feathered edge you know so this one we were able to get a fastener right there um but anyway these would just get way too thin and you'd put a screw in there to most likely split it and although our corking will kind of pin that together uh you just go ahead and put nibs here yeah you want to avoid putting fasteners in that line of grain because you you do have short grain here that the the conical head of that screw and and the shank of the screw going right in there isn't isn't is going to be inclined to split that that grain so so i mentioned that we have some news about rosie our sort of volunteer apprentice here and it's very good news uh and also bad news but um i'm going to let her explain it herself so i've been working on the tally ho as a volunteer apprentice for about eight months now and i recently accepted a paid job working at the port townsend shipwrights co-op i'm very pleased about this i would say something about how i'll see you all over there but maybe that's a secret so i'm not gonna say it yeah i think while i've been here i've gotten a really good introduction to certain aspects of boat building and i think i've learned a lot from working with and watching both leo and pete who have slightly different styles and different ways of working which is really educational for me and i'm feeling really excited to go to a shop that has like a slightly different style of working and work with new people and on a new project and i think that the skills that i've learned here and the styles of work that i've learned here will translate well to a new environment and hopefully help me settle in well and not make too many stupid mistakes because i never make those anyway no you could probably still find me a little bit on youtube if you look up the western flyer there you go rosie fans yeah all the hordes of rosie fans so there you go rosie has been offered a job at the shipwrecks co-op down in port townsend um and i think it's really great it's so nice to have someone come through here and partly at least because of the skills and experience that they got here have now landed a proper paid professional position within a shipwrights cooperative so that's i think a really positive thing and of course wish her all the best of luck in her career you will probably continue to see rosie on youtube if you look up the western flyer project and i'm sure we'll be checking with her every now and then to see how she's getting along as well [Music] you [Music] [Music] is [Music] [Music] um so some people have asked why uh if we've been leaving um a little bit of space maybe between the planks or or gaps to accommodate for the swelling they anticipated uh knowingly it's gonna swell uh so um we're not doing that we're putting our planks on tight together pushed up against each other and we know it's going to take up water and and the planks are going to expand and compress the whole hall but the the wood's not so dry that it's going to expand too much we know it's it's relatively dry but it's not going to it's not so bone dry that it's going to soak up a whole bunch of water and and put too much too much compression and too much movement that may stress our fasteners we're not really worried about that wood doesn't really expand longitudinally so the length of a timber the length of a tree you get a lot of shrinkage rate radially and tangentially but longitudinally wood doesn't really change uh its length um and so at our hood ends we don't expect any any expansion or shrinkage um our hood ends though are backed by a rabbit so there's their solid purple heart behind them with good fastening there and you can get a really tight corked butt joint so you can really go to town at both our butt joints and the hood ends because the pressure you're putting there is four and a half essentially and so um you can you can really choke up your material and whale on it um and and being it completely back by a seam as long as there's a good corking in there it shouldn't leak much or at all actually we are yeah we're doing some important boat work here uh essential roofing for the uh for the chicken coop here we're doing this partially because uh the crew got so fast that leo and pete can't keep up with us so we're trying to find like other work to do around the yard now [Applause] we noticed some chicken feathers out in the yard and some of the chickens disappeared so now they're all stuck in a pen what do you think happened to them i think it was a backtrack you got to film that oh man oh i know what it was i bet it was raccoons but i doubt they can find their way in here i have trouble getting in here [Music] so one more thing that people have been wondering about is the reason for using angelique versawana in different parts of the boat for different uh planks so the sheer streak is made of angelique obviously and one reason for that is because since it's a much more dense wood and it's more durable it's good to use it in a place like the shear strike because there's a lot of important fastenings that go through here us there's structural fastenings that go through and there's also fastenings for the cover board that will come down from the top and also this is a place which is likely to experience well which is more likely to experience impact very unlikely extremely unlikely to experience impact uh also the broads in the garbert are angelique which is in part because because the wood is more dense and durable it's also more rot resistant so if fresh water pools in the bottom of the boat it's more likely to resist rot than the water would be and also another place in the boat that is more likely to experience impact god forbid from something underwater like a rock not that any yahoo sailor would drive this boat into a rock that would never happen all right thanks for covering that for us rosie no problem so you may have it like this you might want this block here yeah um like you may want it on the top of the plank at the bottom of the plate smile it's good timing to be on camera how's it going pete what what is he doing i'm not doing anything there's too much boat in the way we're gonna have to take the bill stringers out oh there we go oh yeah oh there we go don't hit it with your hand pete i was tempted to okay keep a hand on it because i'm gonna give it a little tap rowan you're not at your station at all huh yeah but i was coming here to help you out all right well it's time for me to talk about situation with the county again and hopefully you can tell that i'm in a much better mood this time than i was last time and that's because i think that we have come to a solution which is going to be beneficial for all parties involved and that means that i think this project is going to be able to continue but it does mean some big changes and some big challenges ahead now before i get right into explaining what actually happened i just want to send out a huge thanks to all you guys out there for just the incredible support that i've received since i released the last video i received lots and lots of messages and emails with very good advice i haven't been able to respond to them all so i apologize if you sent me a message i also appreciate the hundreds of people who wrote and emailed the county and various officials in the area i didn't ask anyone to do that and i sort of discouraged it actually but i think that actually it was probably very helpful i could be wrong but i suspect that the support that this community showed for this project was completely beyond anything that the county could have expected and i do think that that probably really helped us come to an agreement which is actually gonna benefit everyone and crucially um gonna let this project continue so i'm gonna try and keep this brief and just give it a quick overview of basically what's been happening and i should say that again this is just my side of the story there's always two sides to the story it's also possible that i could have some of my facts wrong after the last video and all the very good advice i received um i did pretty much immediately go and find some really good legal help the lawyers i've been working with like me are convinced that i haven't actually broken any county guidelines in terms of actually working on the boat or in terms of accepting donations in fact i don't want to be petty but i'm sure you guys will be interested in this public response from the director from community development who's really the person in charge of this case she actually stated in a newspaper article that she did not approve the letter that i was sent threatening the fines and she also tweeted that i quote we don't care if leo shoots the videos or takes in donations we care if he makes noise after 5 pm and generates a lot of dust and traffic now obviously that contradicts the letter that i received saying that i shouldn't be accepting donations and i do want to point out that we actually don't make noise here after 5 pm in terms of dust and traffic well we don't get that many visitors and i don't know how you'd measure how much dust travels over 200 foot but there we go she also said in that tweet and i quote the code enforcement officer that wrote the violation letter took liberties that should not have been taken which is quite interesting anyway according to my lawyers it seemed like we had a really good case if we actually wanted to fight this thing but the last thing i want to do is get in some huge legal battle with the county if i can possibly avoid it i don't have the time or the money for that and i want to be building votes not putting my energy into some legal case so we wrote up a stipulation an agreement that if it could be agreed on by the county and us then it would allow me a little more time to get the boat ready to move it safely after a few back and forth between my lawyers and the county lawyers we all agreed on a time frame and a set of conditions that we thought were a good compromise and would keep everyone happy i'm not going to go into all the details of what's actually in that stipulation but it does give me a little more time to get the boat ready to move it safely so this does mean that i have agreed to move the boat and move the project from this property and that is very sad for me because i love it here the people who own this property are amazing the situation here with the workshop right next to the boat is pretty much perfect all the tools are here the people that are doing the property are also sad about it because we've become a big part of each other's lives i mean they're like family and they've always been so excited and happy to have this going on in their backyard but at this stage i do know that this is the best way to resolve this dispute it's the easiest way and it's the way that is the most likely to keep everybody or as many people as possible happy like i said in my last video although i don't agree with the way that certain things were done by certain people i do have sympathy for anyone that's been affected by the noise that we make i do have sympathy for certain people in the county who've had to deal with certain members of the public so i really do think that in this situation negotiating a compromise is the best for everyone now a couple of weeks ago when i made my last video moving this boat and moving this project from this property just seemed pretty much unthinkable it just seemed like it would cause so much stress cost so much money and require so much organizing that it wasn't really something i could comprehend but since i read that letter since i had so much time to think about it heard so many different opinions of various options i could take i started to realize that actually yes it'll be a challenge but it's not impossible and in fact it could actually be a really good thing for this project a year ago it would have been pretty much impossible but now that the boat is almost in a state where she can be moved if we were to take her to somewhere like port townsend for example yes i would have to rent a workshop and buy the bench tools yes would have to rent yard space and rent a place to live and so on there will be challenges but the resources available in a place like that and the boat building community that is right there could be really beneficial to this project as it goes forward into the next phases of the rebuild so that is basically now the plan it's the simplest option just going to remove myself from the situation so i have to get the boat ready to move safely in as short as time as possible and organize various things in port townsend which is most likely where we'll be going one of my highest priorities throughout this process has been to try and minimize any stress and disruption to the owners of this property and i think that this solution of making this compromise and moving the boat achieves that in the best way possible and i'd like to end this little speech by just thanking them for their amazing generosity letting me do this here in their backyard has just been fantastic it was literally the only way this project could have happened when i started there's no way that i could have considered putting the boat in a commercial boat yard now maybe that's possible but at the time without them inviting me here there's no way i would have been able to take on this boat and it would probably still be rotting down in brickings or would have been chopped up [Music] so a lot of people have asked me about this joint between the planking and the transom at the back of the boat and of course we just left all these planks over hanging for now and we'll be trimming those off in the next video i expect which should be a very satisfying thing to do and to watch but essentially that's all we're going to do we're going to trim these off flush with the face of the transom and that's it so the end of the planks the end grain there will be exposed facing aft and that's not the best thing to have end grain exposed like that because end grain is more likely to suck up moisture but the ends of the planks are going to be painted so when you look at the transom this main part will be varnished but the ends of the planks are on the edge will be painted on their end so that will protect the end grain of course it also means that you know slightly more liable to splitting off and so on but again fairly unlikely and really if there's something which is going to split the a little bit of end grain off it's going to damage the timber no matter what the joint is there so this is the standard way of doing it uh that's done on most transom stern vessels and this is the way that it was done on this boat there are other ways of doing it um you can actually miter the transom and the ends of the planks together so that you actually don't see any end grain which is a very neat way of doing it and then as you look at the transom the the face of the transom goes right to the outside it looks really good it's a more sort of yachty finish it is a bit more difficult to miter the transom into the hood ends of the planks and also it's not very traditional on british boats it's not the way it was done on this boat and i felt no need to change the design in that way i actually quite like the look of the seeing the ends of the planks around the transom a couple of people have suggested why isn't it done the other way with the planks cut flush and the transom on the outside there's several reasons for that it's much easier to replace planks if they are damaged than to replace the transom it would look very odd to do it the other way around it's just not the way it's done caulking the hood ends would be a problem uh and also if anything's if the hull is sort of sliding along anything if say you're sliding along something in the water um it's naturally going to sort of run off the end of the planks if the transom had its end grain sticking out over the end of the planks it would be more likely to actually catch the tip of the transom and rip that off and that's much more likely to happen than for the end grain of the planks to be ripped off by something sliding across the back of the boat so this is just the accepted way of doing it and there's really no issues with it the ends of the planks might look a little exposed when we first chop them off but once they've got paint on them they'll look just fine and they'll be protected how are you doing what what are you doing oh what am i doing yeah i don't know i'm driving rivets uh-huh we're trying to fasten this plank and it's right next to the beam the stringer so we have some rivets and some screws [Music] [Music] so [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] you guys are getting so quick at this david had a lot of practice i've done this like once or twice i think i did that one and that one and that one a couple over there yeah yeah yeah i gotta gotta count on them uh at least five at least you mean 500. oh gosh five thousand i tried i stopped thinking about the zeros well rosie it's been a real pleasure having you here and um thanks so much for all your great work it has been an immense pleasure to be here i'm very glad that i spent the past eight months here in beautiful undisclosed location um oh yeah sad to leave but excited for the next thing very good we'll see you in port townsend see you in port townsend well what a roller coaster i don't know about you guys but uh i am ready for a rest after the stress and excitement of the last couple of weeks um but there's no rest for the wicked and we've got a few more planks to hang before we get to that uh famous whiskey plank so we're going to keep going i would like to extend a really special thank you to the attorneys who helped me sort this stuff out with the county brent at dilly law of olympia washington and also aaron lang of schwabe williamson and wyatt both of whom have just been absolutely phenomenal throughout just so helpful uh so professional and knowledgeable and just really i really felt like they had my back and that made all the difference so if you find yourself in a similar position to me i cannot recommend them enough i'll link their websites in the description below the video and as always thanks so much to you guys for watching and supporting this project for making it possible for us to do what we're doing and to document it so hopefully i'll see you guys in a couple of weeks for the whiskey plank if i can sober up enough to make a video about it but do keep an eye on my youtube and my other social media pages in case i post something about the whiskey plank before the next video [Music] you

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Length: 39min 30sec (2370 seconds)

Published: Sat Mar 13 2021

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I’ve now watched 89 episodes, it’s sad that I’m almost all caught up. I saw a video on here over a year ago when he was doing the framing and thought what he was doing was amazing and I had no idea how truly spectacular this project was. I highly recommend people start from the beginning. I even got my parents into it and they otherwise couldn’t navigate YouTube if they tried (late 60’s) which really says something about his editing skills and production quality which have exponentially increased over time. Leo is unbelievably talented and the different people and characters who have contributed to this project truly make what he is doing so much more special.