Con Man | Full Crime Drama Movie | Barry Minkow Story | Wall Street | Mark Hamill

come on [Applause] god get up [Applause] next touchdown wins we got the ball so you man up i'm a little banged up here you know why you got 25 years yeah because i refused to testify against anybody whose last name ended in a vow no you got 25 years because you're a quitter when things get tough you look for shortcuts you quit you put on your family you put on your friends you put on god and that's because you ain't got no heart yeah that's right i called you a quitter what you gonna do about it if that don't sit well with you prove me wrong barry minkow for once in your life don't take a shortcut take the pain and help this team win well you know i think we're all born with certain genes i think barry was missing one it's got to be something deep-seeded and berry barry did what he did i mean nobody really put him up to it barry could convince anybody of anything and he was very very good at it from the moment he shook my hand sociopath thought this was the entrepreneur of the year he was almost incapable of not lying and you know i give him credit for this tremendous scam that he pulled at that time had so much charisma i've never seen anybody like that that you believed everything everything he can sell ice to eskimos barry reinvented himself you know for a young guy it was pretty amazing what he pulled off he didn't want his lights turned off he didn't want to be his dad hey pally boy hey pup how did you do today ah not bad outfitted the ymca down the street with half a dozen gym fans but if it doesn't yeah good thing it gets hot in the valley huh it's pretty good right let me give you some advice kiddo never work for somebody else if you can help it not getting the house in my shop jeez go away this every night when it's gonna stop when someone in this family figures out how to earn some real money that was it wanted to make money and that was it he wanted millions that's what drove him he wanted the girls he wanted people to love and adore him and the girls only wondered you if you had a red ferrari [Music] [Music] hi mindy hi uh barry i'm telling you man i'm making things change oh still a big guy that's so check it out will that happen that's five days a week for three months at the gym if you look i might not have not maple's money i can't throw a football like bobby bedella no but i can look like new fridge going after the three p's mikey another three-piece position plus possession equals popularity i'm gonna build a new ferry well how's all this supposed to happen let's start a business and keep working out i'm gonna make a ton of money and i'm gonna have everything that i want he wanted to be a star it could have been a fabulous story barry get to it so the way it goes is you work off your membership fee by working off your membership fee [Music] [Music] excuse me could you just hold on for one second i'll be right back with you sweetheart listen i heard on your last run you brought the degreaser you brought the sanitizer but barry you forgot this guard you [Music] [Music] i don't want my boss to think that you're just here because of me that would be terrible that would be nepotism it could work just yeah go back and work sorry hello no like i think he drinks a lot of v8 yeah let's do it [Music] how do you get so big how do you think is there is there any way i could buy some voids off you how you gonna pay kid [Music] i got a part-time job cleaning carpets i can pay i'll tell you what i'll swap you the carpet cleaning for some roids we're done kid nice job kid definitely worth some of these thanks hey um hey what is all this stuff just call it my inventory oh gotcha yeah as soon as i uh figure out how to get my own steam cleaner i'm gonna go into business for myself which one of them things cost oh like a thousand bucks tell you what thousand cash for equipment six bills for capital [Music] now you're in business kid um oh oh you'll pay me back interest only 200 a week what are you some kind of loan shark i'm a businessman kid you want in [Music] this is a big world i can't wait to wake up [Music] i can't wait to [Music] this is [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] yes hello there i just had my carpets cleaned by this company called z best it's owned by this wonderful kid who's only 16. you should do a story on him all i see on the news is stories about kids on drugs and in gangs this young man is a role model what's that all right yes z best with four z's okay thank you goodbye thank you grandma you're the best what you can't stay and visit oh i wish i could i got so much to do but um i'll come by later can you make me some of that uh some of that spaghetti that you make so good with the meatballs too i'm just so proud of my son i mean he did this all himself show the signs in the show so what's barry's secret well he's always been hiding that's what i think you stopped no false modesty son i'd like to take this opportunity and offer anyone who's watching a 50 discount if they come down right now i will clean your carpets personally and that'll even help you see what i'm talking about i mean he's brilliant very mango [Music] dude [Music] hi hey [Music] where do you like your meal it was really good are you ready to go i don't really like horror movies that much but um do you want to see blade runner with me this weekend yeah awesome don't sweat it man business is good but you're doing this every weekend okay can you look around you for a second i'm finally in we are finally in it's totally worth it you can't do this to me i haven't done anything wrong barry sit down we didn't realize that you were underage in the state of california the signature card that opens a checking account it's a legally binding document it's a contract and you cannot sign a legally binding business check if you're only 16. now like i said if you want to get your father in here to co-sign my father it's my company okay i started this thing not my dad you know this listen i'm not one to stifle entrepreneurship i'm impressed with what you've accomplished believe me this is the way the system works now i have no choice but to close your account immediately and return all outstanding checks you said you were impressed by me right and why can't you make an exception for me i'm sorry kid you've seen what i've done i really am i wish it didn't have to be this way but the rules are the rules you can't break the rules look at me kid i can't let you bounce checks on me no and i've been letting you skate you owe me 800 bucks i know i look victor man you know i'm in trouble with these checking accounts okay i would have i would have to be crazy to try to screw you i mean i wouldn't even be in business if it wasn't for you man i were you big all i got to my name is 20 bucks just take it okay enough okay look you pay me 500 cash by friday and let the other 300 slide for one more week you got it thank you thank you man i i won't let you down i promise you better not [Music] mr berry ron i need a money order for sparkle janitorial supply for 500 bucks i'm right up [Music] hey bear give me one sec i'll be right back yeah yeah [Music] oh [Music] yeah i'm good i'm good [Music] [Music] i saw you on the news you're an impressive young man barry how can i help you mr fitzgerald i've been to every bank in the area and no one will open a business checking account for me because they say i'm too young funny thing is i already had one open for over a half a year before anyone ever found out my age i would have thought that i had proven my ability to be responsible no you don't impress me as being too young you seem pretty mature i get that all the time look mr fitzgerald i've started a good business and i know what i'm capable of i mean i already have seven employees all of whom are paying taxes on their wages i'm simply a victim of my age well put i just need someone to take a small risk and put a little trust in me fine i'll take the chance but you need to keep me updated uh twice a week on zbest's status even though every newspaper and tv show is keeping me posted here i want you to sign the bottom here of course i'll fill in the rest okay thank you congratulations i won't want you down [Music] what is this what dude what is this come on baby jump in let's go first what how do you how did you afford this no we're not we're not making any profits don't have to afford it it's got to cover the monthly payments look it's all about appearances my man the way you look is the way the world thinks you are oh speaking of uh appearances there's a misprint in the yellow pages ad it says serving the area for over 10 years it's not a misprint it's a business tactic everybody does it nobody's going to check what do they have to check what do you think anyone's going to believe you when you started the business when you were you were six years old that's ambitious man it uh must have been tough balancing nap time and making payroll you think we want to drive he's driving is going to work hold on [Music] i can't stay ahead of expenses no matter how much business i bring in make just payments are killing me mikey mikey mikey mikey check this out what look at this look the checks the checks from the northridge account haven't cleared yet all right so so if i write if i write a check from that account into the second account i can cover my shortage until i can deposit more customer checks and then and then i just run it the other way when the northwest account is short then i never have to keep the full amount as long as i deposit the new money in time yeah it's called check kiting really no i thought it made that up no you did not anyways anyways it doesn't matter yeah it does not it's illegal it doesn't matter it's only temporary okay it's only until i can square things up because kids during the summertime are gonna work cheap i can go after more customers i can do more advertising and and then all the money i can pay it all off everything's gonna be fine [Music] you're late i know i know i was a victor sorry to pick up some uh company letterhead yeah yeah i'll show uh corporate documents did you get another loan i'm gonna get another loan what do you mean what do i mean you got another loan yeah how much was that yes four grand but it's not a big deal interest is like 500 a week 500 a week okay very good hear me out hear me no no no no give me your hand what half the reason i got the loan is because i think that you deserve a bonus really yeah really come on man you look your butt off huh just want you to know i uh appreciate you go take out that cute little girl i saw you with last week yeah i uh i think i like this place all right [Music] fix the garage huh [Music] it's awesome man hey mary i'm up here pop very nice impressive son you know i am so proud of you but i don't want you to get in any trouble and i just feel like you're in over your head dad don't tell me how to run my business no no your whole life you've played it safe okay i'm taking my shot here hey why don't you come work for z best huh you can build up you can build up my commercial accounts i'll match your salary at windy city with a better commission i don't think that's the best come on dad you've always been at jobs that didn't require any talent come work for me show me what you can do huh [Music] hey dad start work monday see you later mr minko yeah see you boys it's our new commercial manager give a sec yeah look at that so i might not be smart enough to to get it but uh victor doesn't sell cleaning equipment right um no but the banks and insurance companies don't even know that right so we purchased ten crowell triple back dual pump water steam cleaners i don't know that brand that's cause they don't exist sounds good though right yeah sounds sounds good hey mike now on mr minko hey that isn't the little entrepreneur look at you that's a little enemy i get you trying to look like you oh i should be so lucky come here i want to show you something watch your step what happened to this place well this one was a flood tried to imagine you could do anything with this huh smells like the inside of a halloween cast well this is called restoration work fires floods the insurance companies contract it out restore it make it new again big money big money this could be your future come on i want to show you something wow this is this is amazing mm-hmm before and after not bad for three weeks workout look uncle joe i i appreciate you bringing me out here but i'm i'm just a carpet cleaner yeah so was i when i started 35 years ago you know all the carpet companies out there all your competitors they all advertise one big thing that you don't emergency water damage restoration water heater busts in the house water floods the carpets everywhere the first people call to the carpet cleaners who come in and extract the water bingo and you make millions if you're ever interested in that kind of thing just let me know i'll help you find some work are you insane you can't open another office barry you think that i don't know that you're cutting checks again this company is hanging on by a threat and we both know relax okay everybody cheats a little bit it's not a big deal it's a big it's not okay i had to expand to generate more cash to catch up on money barry you can't run one office out of profit not barry do not reshoot do not raise your voice it's settled all right i already got the location picked out look everybody thinks i'm some kind of hot shot now man barry minkow the young entrepreneur got to keep that going but it's who i am now [Music] that's in the divorce i really need the extra income great happy to help now i need you to mock up a few documents for a bloated insurance company so don't feel bad feeling bad was not something i was factoring in [Music] you do have the cash right [Music] so [Music] uh you're sure this is one of your competitors yeah what did they steal four cornwell triple vac steam cleaners yeah but barry even at 1500 a piece that doesn't equal 12 000 water damage water damage yeah see when when they broke in they set off the sprinklers which caused water damage these guys were trying to put me out of business but we fixed it because that's what we do it's expensive really yeah it's called restoration work in fact zbest is gonna be awarded out more restoration jobs from other big companies as early as next week and that that's where the real growth opportunities are in the carpet cleaning industry [Music] i think a little toast is in order for the man of the hour oh no no here's to barry on your 18th birthday you're an adult well legally anyway now you can you can get married you can join the army with or without our permission sorry to interrupt but you know how it is when your father tries to be funny but i would like to say something i'd like to toast you barry uh i am so proud of your success [Music] [Music] and so as we look forward to the excitement of new lives we the fresh-faced classes i feel like i don't even know you anymore continue to rise come on yeah you do mikey you know same old berry regular business now that's all but like icarus who flew too high to the sun we need to keep watch to keep level and not let the temptations of our new freedom be the end of us come on we must carry on who doesn't cheat on their taxes or inflate an insurance claim can we just enjoy graduation i applaud you fellow students on this day of rebirth the answer is everyone it's a new beginning and nobody gets hurt all right so don't come at me with that self-righteous attitude in fact i think i deserve a little thanks really you running flush now because of me congratulations to the class of 1984. [Applause] [Music] damn it [Music] [Music] hey what's your favorite uncle hey uncle joe how are you i'm good kid listen i'm out there in the business community and i'm hearing things like you're expanding too fast and you can't possibly be profitable joe that's just jealous people using their stories as an excuse for their mediocrity yeah i'm hearing that too see okay all right but be careful you have to be a little bit of a thief in business i know that but you don't want to become a thief then you're not in business anymore you're just a crook there's a project over in tarzana and i have an interested buyer he won't close on the sale until i fix a rip in the carpet okay i'll get someone right on it no no he wants you he wants to meet the millionaire kid success story just be careful i hear this guy's connected a real mafioso i mean it eh i read about your new examiner didn't i yeah yeah yeah joe says it's a pro it's my uncle joe how do you do that barry we'll get a profit like that cleaning carpet i've never heard of that well jack the real money it's not it's it's not in the uh the carpet cleaning it's in these things called restoration jobs oh yeah and like cleaning up that's an old fire right yeah yeah yeah um the the jobs they come in through uh through these insurance adjusters my company see best we got like you know we got like three of these jobs lined up right now but but i plan on expanding because each job contract is worth about 25 grand that must be nice yeah yeah it's really it's really nice you know you have these huge buildings with uh with these complex sprinkler systems and they go off inadvertently causing causing floods you know and it's expensive to fix find the money there's no limit to what i can do how much 100 grand 100 grand this is the cleanup no no it's much more than that it's it's extracting the water dehumidifying the area uh you know padding tack strips mold treatment you see all this requires money lots of money and these these worthless insurance companies are notoriously slow for these large payouts and see that's that's what sets me apart from my competition look jack how many uh how many carpet cleaners you know in this business that are well capitalized i'm just gonna pull down right now with these restorations with these threes 80 grand profit it's good so then the proof proof yeah proof of the jobs a little accountability i'm not coming right now 50 grand cash i mean you need money i raise money you know i talked to friends it's all numbers barry congress it's just none yeah it's all no way come in we come in for a lot more than a hundred a lot more we split profit you know 50 50. 5050. all the jobs [Music] yeah yeah yeah yeah of course i'm interested [Music] the uh the the the proof the documents i can bring those by tomorrow you wanna drink yeah i don't drink good for you it's not good this is acceptable you don't understand you don't understand you got these credit card accounts because i vouched for you 25 000 fraudulent accounts it wasn't me i i swear it was crooked carpet cleaners look they want me out of business look they faked the credit card slip so they could double bill the customers and make more money what do you want me to do i just found out about this last night i already fired them you were planning on telling me yeah yes i i guess you guessed it yes yes yes i was of course i was planning on look i'm a little over my head here bill mister fitzgerald i'm sorry i'm sorry i can keep your accounts open for five business days you deposit 10 000 at that time and the rest five days after that i won't let you down better meet these deadlines barry otherwise i will shut you down and i will bounce all your checks this is a joke deal huh that would put me out of business i know so it should motivate you now get the hell out of here look we need to find a way to fix some non-existent restoration jobs all right i'm not talking about staging a phony break-in talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars in jobs that don't exist got any ideas i could incorporate a phony adjusting firm first so well we would fake the jobs on the firm's letterhead that's great that's great okay and in the meantime i'll work hard trying to get as you best some legitimate claims to cover your back uh i'll catch you in your office later okay thank you i really appreciate this i wouldn't ask you if it wasn't life or death i got i got a hundred employees depending on yeah well they're not your problem i'm just doing this for the money song as long as you do it [Music] so he's still standing there in his underwear holding an identical toothbrush so i tell the guy as we always say it's the best we don't just cut corners we clean them can i trust him absolutely so let me explain you how restoration job works all right god gorgeous woman come here you be the building stand here next to me all right come here come on [Music] what about the feds huh did they come see ya who the fbi no no no no no where am i you know probably pay you a visit ask questions about me if they do do that just does you say nothing more than our arrangement you know our arrangement that's legitimate [Music] you could prove that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah of course [Music] [Music] [Applause] hey how you doing how are you all right hey baby um you have a present for one side okay i'll be in a second can i help you yeah you can i'll introduce myself to you first i'm special agent gamble fbi here um that's your girlfriend yeah very nice good luck thank you anyway um i'm here um i'm investigating a jack um saxon yes jack saxon and stand he's been uh shaking you down on some loan that he made he's giving me a loan he's a business consultant business consultant new house i'm sorry i'm sorry look uh we'd like you to touch the fire to grand jury uh about your business dealings with their sacks uh with all due respect why would i testify against him he's been nothing but help to my company i understand come on sorry duty calls it was nice to meet you mr special agent of gamble gamble thank you mister and kyle there's a cockiness i was cocky barry was cocky everything we did just seemed to fall into place it was almost like we were being looked over by some guardian angel in fact there were more people that didn't believe barry than the ones that did but he only needed a couple altogether i think the fbi said i created about 23 000 false documents to convince wall street nasdaq and the sec that we were doing about 400 million dollars worth of restoration work when in reality we were doing nothing barry was working with the investment banking firm of payne cameron to take zbest public however barry and jack saxon had a side scheme to pump and dump acquiring the best stock at five cents a piece selling at the market price and violating securities laws the biggest scam we pulled off was the sacramento job very staged a walk through of a newly restored office building to fool the wall street auditors into believing that zbest had done all of the restoration we hadn't done any of that he even bribed the doorman 100 bucks to make it look hey mr minko nice to see you again bob oh how are you hey how's the wife finished the life oh that's too bad of the kids for me and you got it it's like family everyone is the best is like family con man has a tremendous amount of charisma and say to the woman ma'am that's not dog urine that's your three-year-old what's this ladder doing here mike please find out who was here last night doesn't even look like there was any water damage at all well that's the point he doesn't take your money you give it to him gentlemen attached you will find our project summary as you can see but with a cost-effective nylon carpet to save time and most importantly your money [Music] once the wall street auditor signed off on our financials paying cameron took the best public this is tremendous where's barry okay mary you on open hey it's on the show right but i want carson i want to be on johnny carson tribute to the tribune minutes happy birthday barry minkow your stock is worth 100 million dollars you control a 300 million dollar public company [Applause] hey everybody hey you i don't even know you go buy me the most expensive champagne you can find 500 bottles freak zone [Applause] [Music] so you're the birthday kid huh uh i'm not a kid all these people here work for me well i don't work for you okay uh who who are you my name is sam that's a guy's name you better be careful you might just decide this party's a boar and leave who invited you happy birthday barry don't you if you got a problem with me you can always stop picking up your check you can't have me fall barry you know you know what the difference is between you and me i lead you follow you're embarrassing baby happy birthday boy close your eyes close your eyes what is this love of my life what no wait barry it's your birthday it's not my birthday because i love you that's what are you doing listen listen now i want you to take your new car grab a friend right now and i want you to go for a little joyride all right and i don't want you to come back until this is on empty right now right now right now go go go go go go go thank you i love you you're welcome [Music] hello there took you so long my house you wait for me we'll see about that what are you doing here i'm sorry i just wanted to see you i wanted to congratulate you but you were surrounded by so many the bathroom for presents sakes but i wanted to congratulate you on on on the article yeah how'd you do that yeah wait what you can tell me proud of me it's very impressive present for me it's a bit more than a present point you've been praying for this your whole life have you yeah i was praying for this but [Music] i was praying to my vanity what's that supposed to mean please listen i wanted i wanted so much more than what your father could provide i didn't realize what a good man he was good man good man pays the water bill and a good man keeps the lights on in the house a good man will take care of and and provide for his family no wonder what no matter what the cost i mom mama i i'm a good man it's very hard to be a good man barry you really do you were doing this to me on my birthday mom huh what are you doing you want to turn on all this now i am the most successful thing to ever come from this family [Music] all right this is everything that you've wanted this is everything that dad's wanting this is everything that i've wanted for my entire life i mean come on i control a 300 million dollar company when i was downstairs blowing out my birthday candles i couldn't even think of anything to wish for because i already have you don't have anything you don't have anything because you don't have morality i don't have them you don't have god god how much is god i'll buy god no no no no no no no this is ancient history the banks and my investors know about this a few dishonest carpet cleaners false build some customers i fired them and paid everyone back i don't see what the problem is okay well then hold them off okay forget the shorts i'm gonna i'm issuing a press release for this afternoon that'll clear this whole thing up our stock will be back up to normal in no time i have to go i'll call you back first bank of santa barbara is calling in their 7 million loan because of the article [Music] that's nine million bucks mikey barry there's one more thing saxon sold all of his shares okay like i need you to do something for me all right i need you to draft the press release okay see that payne cameron has fully investigated all these charges and clears the best of any wrongdoing are you kidding me just do it amy amy amy people keep calling us there thank you for the observation amy now listen i need i need you i need you to schedule the press conference for this afternoon okay how do i do that time to earn your paycheck amy go this is barry hey i'm gonna press it all right it's time we're talking about credit card fraud not the restoration jobs right very good yeah can you comment on why your stock went down four points today absolutely see that was a reaction to the l.a time story about a past problem we had with some dishonest carpet cleaners the banks and our investors already knew about it but is it true that the sec has ordered an investigation of z-best i i'm unaware of any such investigation your prospective states that you completed a 7 million restoration project in sacramento and yet zbest never filed a permit for such construction and in fact zbest doesn't even hold a contractor's license how do you explain that um i'm going to have to refer that question to our legal staff you know that's all for today i'm so sorry thank you how do you feel about paying cameron resigning we have more questions like that then what can't believe the pain camera resigned what did you think was gonna happen barry what's that supposed to mean it's over man so it's not it's no it's not over i can i can fix this hey all right i can fix this just like i fixed everything if i fixed it before i can fix it yes i can do you still not get it you can't climb out of this one bear what do you know you have no idea what it takes to build something like this yeah you know actually i do you know all it takes is an incredible ability to lie i mean that's that's all you did very you're phony you're used to everyone i use people you use people you used me for money and popularity do you suck me dry man serious absolutely you know for somebody so smart you can be really stupid you are you are a loser you betrayed me you were a loser when i met you in high school i'm done you're a loser now and you'll always be a loser done i'm done with you i i'm done with you you lying self-centered backstabbing son of a [ __ ] i'm done with you payne cameron's team was pretty angry they said the press release was a lie they said they never investigated the charges that true anyway the phone's ringing off the hook the journal the times everyone wants to speak with you so [Music] barry what do you want me to do i'll be back in an hour [Music] mr minko you are a dangerous man you do not have a conscience you have been convicted of 57 counts of fraud mr minko and you are hereby ordered to serve a term of 25 years in jail and you are further ordered to make restitution of 26 million dollars to the individuals some of whom you see here today whose lives you have severely impacted by your actions the banks and the companies you pulled in to your elaborate scheme [Music] this court is adjourned smile [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] you know the 2.5 million people that are busting the seams of our prisons both stayed in federally across the u.s all of us had one thing in common none of us ever planned on being there we all started with the best of intentions i just wanted to be accepted but it was that vehicle that got me that acceptance that swallowed me whole you see as far back as i can remember i was dubbed the whiz kid and i had everything i ever wanted until it all came crashing down until i realized that my whole life was a con one big giant con barry was compelled compelled to play himself in the film because that's the only way he could reach the final completion of being the hero in his own story it was not enough to have an a-list actor it had to be him the acting that barry did in the in the film was i thought very very good i know what he wanted to to make this movie there again i said barry be very very careful i certainly advised him not to play himself i said you're making a mistake oh sorry hold on there you go [Applause] what if i smoke no go ahead i don't smoke i mean not anymore i was just curious what a preacher felt about that but now unfortunately i'm uh i'm walk the knees i got to go to rehab these uh you want one no please it's the red one quiet no no what do you think about it ah peanut what's that james peanut long the reason they call me the jailhouse preacher oh you're gonna tell me how you found your users i didn't find jesus he found me in the form of a 250-pound black guy [Music] your body is your [Music] real strength is in here you know most dangerous part of your story is throughout the whole ordeal you actually convinced yourself that you were helping hundreds of employees when in reality you were just helping myself hindsight's 20 20. and look where it got locked up in a prison cell well we're both locked up difference is i'm at peace with what i've done and i'm getting there you're pretending to get there you don't think i'm sincere i think you're trying to find the lord so you can hang up with the jesus freaks instead of the skinheads to make it in here whatever yeah whatever why do you come to church on sunday why is it because you're really trying to change your life was it just another barry minko khan one thing to remember is the fraud artist doesn't see himself as a criminal the fraud is merely a means to a well-justified end once the scheme works everybody gets paid off nobody gets hurt voila okay let's move on here you know as well as i do when the devil comes at you at first he looks good sounds good feels good then when it's too late the beast comes out you got that right where were you 11 years ago well i had a lot of growing up to do like i said ain't no accidents in life we bought shares for five cents a piece then dumped them on the market when it hit 12 and 13 bucks that was the part that was illegal oh so it was saxon that got you involved in the penny stocks right and that's when he turned his wall street connections onto the stock they bought blocks of it the price shot through the roof and i was worth millions instantly inside of trading yeah hey you need to leave him alone yeah you need to mind your own business yeah i don't want any trouble i said mind your own business i will when you let him go oh well too bad hey can't you hear finish your show take a walk man take a walk i don't think so yeah i don't think so i know i'm not seeing what i think i'm seeing as if you trying to hurt him you're trying to hurt me lord jesus i want to thank you for making me a god-fearing man and having me not beat anyone's ass in jesus name amen proud of you whiz kid you did all the work i don't know why you'd be proud of me changing you helped a weaker brother who was outnumbered shows that you're changing from yourself and shared self-centered ways remember the lord always looks out for an underdog i don't know if it was peanut or the broken nose i guess god has a way of taking care of the details and it was at this moment that life took on new clarity for me see to win the game i had to stay in the pocket and face the pain it was then i learned that to win in life meant no more backing down no more shortcuts no more compromises no more lies and no more cons [Music] [Applause] [Music] how you feeling i questioned whether some of the stuff he did was for the movie or the story of the movie i never felt better thank you i question whether peanut was a real person or not pretty good throw i don't think barry could throw a football nine feet truth plus time equal trust a lot of truth over a long period of time equals trust and no shortcuts to that equation either you know yeah well thanks for the time like i said from the beginning i don't want to spend the rest of my life in witness protection i'm not going to testify against mr saxon not now not ever excuse me i never felt that barry was rehabilitated i believe his um his transformation was real everyone in prison knew that if you found jesus that would look good on your record to maybe get early release truth plus time equal trust a lot of truth over a long period of time equals trust and no shortcuts to that equation either you know all right we've heard the testimony now it's time to decide based on mr minko's present character you know he came out of prison raring to go but i didn't see it coming with the church quite honestly mr minko we have uh gone through your application and enjoyed your guest sermon but now we'd like to hear the answer to the following question why should we hire you well on paper you shouldn't especially uh when you consider the fact that the other 199 applicants aren't convicted felons if you hired me i can promise you one thing that no one will work harder if for no other reason than out of gratitude for being given the opportunity to pastor such a great church you see i'm naive enough to believe that if you want to find the best employee the best place to find one is someone who's just come out of prison who didn't fail jail who owes society for what they've i've done and what better way for a church to show their belief in the gospel of grace and have a broken vessel like me proclaim that truth from the pulpit of this very church and from a marketing standpoint imagine a slogan community bible church the only church where the pastor is far worse than you [Music] i'll tell you i don't know if you ever saw him in church in front of his congregation he was masterful i mean he had them in the palm of his hand thank you hi hi nice to meet you thank you for coming first time here yes sir wonderful sermon pastor minko pastor berry uh please and this is my wife lisa hi it's a pleasure to meet you uh i'm alan scott and this is my husband don don it's good to meet you we uh drove down from santa barbara santa barbara well my sermons don't merit that kind of sacrifice but thank you anyway we're here for another reason the past 10 years we put all our retirement savings in a hedge fund about 250 000 i earned that money working 31 years as a longshoreman now we're worried about the fund and thought you could check it out mama i'm sorry i'm a pastor i don't really know a whole lot about uh hedge funds i'm really sorry i um look uh why are you concerned the manager just moved his office to the bahamas how long have they been around 20 years they're worth around 800 million about 2 000 investors 20 years 800 million uh sounds like you don't have a whole lot to worry about there please would you check on it i i brought that prospectus why me i'm not an expert in these kind of things everything was fine until i tried to withdraw the money they've been telling me that it's in process for three months i told my nephew about it and he suggested i see you your nephew who's your nephew mike mike is that you you look great you look great yeah not even you can pull off that lie well i'm not exactly winning any beauty contest myself hey ben i'll i'll be a lot better if you tell me you can help out my uncle yeah louis he's telling me he's getting monthly gains of one and a half to three and a half percent yeah i don't think anybody's quite that good uh it's just hedge funds you know i got that letter you wrote me from prison apologizing for what you did were you lying then are you lying now look mike i'm not the same guy i was before i i'm married i got the church i i got twins i teach the fbi and fraud prevention in quantico i you know i i don't really want to hear about the good deeds of my old schoolmates i mean you could tell me you're working with lepers on an island my opinion of you wouldn't change fairy okay i'll believe the change when i see her anybody who's ever been in a financial dealing with me has lived to regret it you know that yeah i'll uh i'll take my chances besides your uh your rates are unbeatable rates i don't have any rates exactly it became uh just too much of a temptation for him barry wanted to kind of do the catch me if you can it was impressive i mean he he really knew his stuff and there you have the six red flags for fraud should you choose to commit those to memory you will be able to stop the next barry minko before he is the next barry minko that's all i have today thanks for joining me i think barry viewed himself as a hero in sort of a twisted way well well well that ain't the preacher man good to see you smooth i see the streets have treated you well you look good my friend yeah right hey did you get a chance to look at the copy of the prospectus i sent you does your p.o officer know that you're associating with an ex-con because i will tell him i'm just trying to figure out how this lewis guy has managed to run a ponzi scheme for 20 years without it imploding either i'm missing something or he's a financial genius a little both can i get a beer and a whiskey please look i need your expertise you're the best there is you already got what you're looking for and the prospectus they practically advertise for people to invest their retirement money yeah so when people take their ira money and put it into fun like this one here there are heavy penalties if you pull out before you're 57 and a half they can invest the money all they want they just can't pull it out the perfect ingredient for the successful ponzi scheme barry becoming a fraud buster didn't surprise me you know i always wondered if going undercover was an opportunity for him to reenact his favorite 80s detective shows and he had many or was it part of a larger plan to actually do good this time i don't know i mean i don't know let me explain this to you there's just a slight difference between lecturing these guys and dodging bullets from and it's not like you've been trained exactly not to a fine edge look the guy has been around for over 20 years and he's a ghost no license to sell securities no assets held in the fund's name nothing who the hell is this guy it's the only way i'll tell you what i'll do i'll send uh i'll send matt down here to bahamas and um he'll record the meeting if there's any misreps we'll move forward from now is that uh just one last thing is um i need quantico to create me a bogus bank statement showing the church has five million dollars parked in a money market are you wait a minute honey how do you know this guy's gonna show up in the first place any ponzi scheme operator desperate for new cash would do whatever it took to get their hands on new cash he'll show uh-huh so you're asking me to give the carpet guy this bank statement for five million dollars what am i crazy ernest hemingway said the only way you can learn to trust someone is to trust them i'm gonna tell you why i said that i think so could have been churchill or him daryl you don't understand you're going undercover you're not a cop you're a pastor he said listen i'm uncovering fraud i'm helping people that are getting scammed and victimized by others [Music] i said barry working so closely with the government if you're wrong one time you're in trouble so you say don scott's a friend of yours yeah he's a member of our our church and uh the church has been growing so much lately that we established a building fund to purchase some land to accommodate the growth and uh we wanted to invest that money have it working for us until we build well it would grow here i assure you how much do you have to invest a little over five million dollars those returns uh that you've been generating can they be cooperated yes we earned 18 to 40 percent annual 20-year track record and 800 million 800 million yes correct 800 million dollar fund just got to forgive me numbers like that get me a little bit nervous uh you are aware of my past i was convicted of securities fraud i wrote about you yes i like how you disclosed it up front your church's website too i'd be happy to work with you we all make mistakes you were just a kid you got greedy i have the um money market account bank statement to prove that the money is waiting there you can call the bank it's clear funds waiting to wire well thank you for coming pastor i look forward to working with you well i do appreciate you seeing me and uh just as soon as you send don scott is 250 000 we'll wire these funds right to your bank account it's just that um mr scott had requested a 250 thousand dollar withdrawal and apparently in your move to the bahamas you tell me what god he'll have his money in 24 hours trey thank you for coming mr lewis thank you so much for your time well hey don good to see you hey barry well louis wired me half my money this morning half yeah yeah he said that the custodian of american investment didn't put in my paperwork so he sent it out of his own pocket and he said he wired me the other half very soon you know don i may have underestimated just how strapped for cash mr lewis is why would he risk five million new fresh dollars by sending only half of what he promised just days ago there's only one answer to that that is he doesn't have the full amount and he is much more cash strapped than i first anticipated beginning to worry me barry look done i don't want you to worry about a thing i got this under control you okay trust me on this be okay take care of it hello pastor min kyle derrick lewis my understanding was you were gonna deposit your church money two days after mr scott got his withdrawal from it's my understanding that mr scott only received half of his funds well there's a problem with the paperwork he'll get the balance tomorrow the next day terrific and once he does the church will wire the funds as i have promised hey that's my money i control who gets paid and when no ex-con is going to run a number on me you know something mr lewis you're not as smart as you think you are i know exactly what you're doing you have no idea what you're talking about the beauty of grace is that good people don't go to heaven forgiving people go to heaven and that's the gary what is going on excuse me a second i'm like just relax excuse me just relax for a minute would you mind please i'm gonna punch you in the face the next time you tell me to relax all right derek lewis is suing my uncle for 10 million dollars for fraud and misrepresentation i know he's doing the same thing to me in the church the cost for the suit is gonna wipe them out okay i need you to stop doing what you are doing okay they've got half their money back that's as good as they're gonna get just walk away i can't mike there's a lot more at stake than what you think and it's gonna be okay just trust me trust you where have i heard that before trusting you ruined my life barry barry's intentions were always good and at least according to him but he had a lack of regard for the law and eventually that became an issue but barry was very hard to say no to you don't have to convince me your intention is a good barry i know you've been making restitution even from prison out of this community a lot more than just money michael you know that yes but what you're asking me to do i cannot do i might lose my job look michael i got mr lewis on tape saying he has 800 million dollars in his accounts at this bank and if he does that's wonderful but if he doesn't he's in the process of destroying the lives of thousands of people in this community i need your help i can't just let we can't just let that happen all i want you to do is check the balances if they're nowhere near 800 million dollars just get out of that chair walk over that window look outside and then i'll know for sure all i need are those balances please michael i'll leave either way all the investment companies accounts are tied to this tax id number you have to help me here you have to believe in me please okay oh man looks like it's gonna rain gamble had me do some digging past few days on my lunch break what's up articles of incorporation from a tijuana company called ola kane it's dowry's cash cow they get all their factoring contracts from there it's run by some guy named oliveiros they operate out of 300 square feet and share a secretary with three other businesses the restoration equivalent of my ponzi scheme no way the 300 square foot office in mexico can substantiate hundreds of millions in factoring business gamble says merry christmas hello mr lewis this is barry minkow calling how'd you get this number you have your spies i have mine what do you want i'd like to meet you in los angeles tomorrow and i'd like you to bring the rest of don scott's money you got to be joking 5 p.m l.a resorts hotel unless of course you'd like me to take the information i've obtained and turn it over to the fbi or the journal and what do you have on me mr minkow there's only 387 000 in your bank account instead of the 800 million that you purport to have you just wait a minute you mr lewis are running a ponzi scheme well you're the ex-con you're running the scam i'm doing the work of god hey i said wait a minute protecting the week i'll see you tomorrow la resort hotel 5 pm good night mr loss [Music] lisa i wanted to tell you something but i wanted to make sure that it came out right so i wanted to be careful barry for once in your life don't speak okay look i just want to say that i see the people who always second guess your motives i see them i see the people who always raise an eyebrow and i know that you struggle okay i know that you struggle knowing that most people deep down will never trust a word that you say i mean because let's be real barry most people will walk away most people are gonna just shake their heads and steer clear of you and think that you're gone forever but that's not me i appreciate that more than you'll ever know i got nothing to offer you but a 26 million dollar restitution order and suspicious glares and grins every time i walk by with you in some public arena but i will tell you this if i had to serve eight super bowls in prison again and knew that you'd be waiting for me when i got out i would go right back to prison [Music] [Music] look uh i can do this right yeah i know you can do this i don't trust your minko hey i'm here to work with you i'm not a bad guy i'm a liar and a sinner saved by grace stop it there's a lot of people involved with this fund heavy hit is it's not just me listen if you hurt me this goes to the fbi and the journal i don't want to hurt you i just need you to back off well i guess this won't be going to the fbi or the journal but tell me getting this much cash at this stage of your deal it was a [ __ ] wasn't it when you're given 18 40 a year the interest kills you due to math every day keeps you a little deeper in the hall i did the math and then i did eight super bowls in prison i'm not a criminal my investors double their money every three years but i had to make some risky investments just to raise some money for the investors that didn't use a trust fund tough game we're in these hedge funds totally unregulated i'll stay afloat i'll get it all back i just need to survive to one of my deals pay off big and i'm home free all i need you to do is be quiet so no money left in the fund more or less all akane just a front company ola kane why are you asking about oliver kane just interested in how uh just you know interested in how other people do things like i used to do look i gotta go i hope you fellas enjoy the rest of your stay here in l.a catch a clipper game or something boss check them [ __ ] cover's blown covers blow moving what's this it's a wire screw this shell dance money [Music] come [Music] the case get on the floor stay right where you are let's go [Music] when i heard barry was chasing after bad guys in his movie i said come on barry i mean let's get real there's no way you did this you're not an action hero [Music] the fbi did credit barry for his multiple efforts to uncover fraud but there was more to the story a genius come here yeah let me ask you something what would you have done if you caught those guys they are kind of big aren't they i learned in prison in a shower of all places that when you do the right thing god takes care of the details good job by the way merry christmas what's ironic here is that while barry was bragging about the 1.6 billion dollars in fraud he'd uncovered he was hammering companies who stockade shorted with a series of attacks often based on misleading or false charges causing not the companies but thousands of innocent shareholders to lose well over three billion dollars i always wondered why no one ever really talks about how much he had cost all of those people way more than any kind of amount of fraud that he ever uncovered or prevented he was really on the right road he had everything going for him and to go this crazy you know to do the things that he did i mean even i was surprised and look not too much surprises me and i've been on the street a long time and i've seen just about everything i don't think i've ever seen the extent of what barry has done i mean this was a madoff type of thing it turned out to be his downfall i watched barry do an impassioned sermon that to me was unbelievable oratory and he would then follow that up after motivating his entire uh parish and go out in the lobby and accept a check from somebody that he knew he was gonna misappropriate and spend him properly i know we're supposed to forgive as christians we're supposed to forgive maybe i can say i forgive but i cannot forget can i never forget what he has done he stole more than three million dollars from the church personally and multiple millions of dollars from the people in the church privately and boy he took money in that millions from people but he took my reputation i wish you could always get money back [Music] the comeback that he made and the impact he was truly making was worthy but that story didn't end the way it could have and i think when selfishness and greed come in there it sent him back and it's it was a very tragic ending and and tragic in the main not just for barry for the people that were hurt his whole life was an act his whole life was an act that's the bottom line barry was a master storyteller so even with peanut for all i know it was the same as jimmy stewart's harvey the bunny i don't think the peanut story was all true i think that was a peanut but i don't think it went down like there it said it went down [Music] [Music] this match right here is me and your life all the darkness in the world can overcome the power of one light one person who believes in you [Music] don't ever forget that ever [Music] flat out deceptions [Music] conscious intentions and with every reinvention no dance with redemption what kind of thievery misleading on worshiping what a quick die from grace while the buzzards were circling it's a slippery slope gaining hope against hope it's a slippery slope pinning [Music] destiny's last call does any single act a good one does ever trick the scales of justice and is there ever [Music] slow [Music] is [Music] hope pulled out of the pack and ripped from the headlines deceitful free father no conscience no quarter washed up and washed out dead in the water carried away by the floods of the slaughter [Music] slippery [Music] is [Music] [Music] [Music] against [Music] with out deceptions [Music] conscious intentions and with every reinvention no dance with redemption [Music] it's a matter of life or a matter of death when you take your last breath it's too late to regret all the pain you inflicted now they got you restricted to four walls in time cause all you got is time to play it over and over again in your mind all the souls and the lies that you stole you was blind and all the wrongs that you done did they can't be undone kid is there any room in this place for a little grace everybody say that you're never gonna change cause the mind's deranged you lost you insane you messed up one too many times breaking laws making lies taking lives ain't no hope you can't cope with the life that you made for yourself they say you had it coming but what would you do for a second chance in life would you roll the dice or pay the price for a shot at redemption do you want another chance to live yeah it's never too late it's never too late no no no no [Music] 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