Christy Wong and Dan Millican - In The Hangar - PiAhB #6

[Music] welcome to another episode of pilots and airplanes having breakfast today i'll fly and talk with christy wong and dan milliken the host of the popular aviation talk show in the hangar we'll fly to hutchinson kansas and dan cessna 210 nicknamed lola and also introduce you to christy's airplane the wrong warrior let's go meet christian dan hello everyone i'm here with christy wong and dan milliken christy and dan are the hosts of in the hangar which i've had the pleasure to attend a couple of times and yes i must say that is of everything i've seen on aviation youtube the most professionally produced content that i've seen well i appreciate that dan why don't you give us a quick tour of your chin lola the 210 okay so this we got by the way you've got the lockheed electra making all the noise that we're fighting beautiful plane it's similar to the model that amelia earhart flew in so anyway now we tell them why okay the cessna 210 is cessna's biggest single engine piston plane they made it's a six seater no wing strut it's a different wing design than all the other cessna's even though it's a high wing this must be the bomb drop the bomb drop so this is the radar it's original with the plane in 1980 wow so this is weather radar and it can shoot out and tell us real time what's going on because like even the stuff that we get today on xm or or whatever norad whatever radio uh weather reports you're getting can be delayed even up to 15 minutes this gives you real time however it does not give you the uh ego to go oh and i can shoot the gap that's not a good idea don't do that good and we'll take lola so i'll take lola to our lunch but now now we want to see the wong warrior yes absolutely so this uh is a 1981 piper cherokee warrior two she's got the 180 horsepower upgraded uh engine so typically the warriors would come stock with either the 150 or the 160 horsepower she's got the stc for the 180 horsepower so that's what she's got is a lycoming 0360 in her um so you get more speed and probably more useful so it increased the uh max gross weight to tw uh from like 23 30 up to 24.40 so we could take a little bit more now because of it and one thing to really note it there is a lycoming engine in here it doesn't run just on love rainbows and unicorns this is true yeah most people think that this airplane just runs on love rainbow and unicorns they help right they help yeah what it is actually love rainbows and 100 low leads so yeah this airplane has got the long semi-tapered wings and she goes to a 35-foot wingspan because of that she's also got the elongated stabilator so of course everybody knows you know the difference between an elevator and a stabilizer well she's got a stabilator the whole thing moves and i've got the gust lock on so she's not going to move of course i love this airplane with all my heart and soul i can tell i love this airplane probably more than most people i'm actually going to hire ben to give her a nice bath after we get back because she's a little dirty from sitting out here the last couple of days let's take a quick look at the caucuses yeah and notice you have to go to that side there is only one door yes absolutely come on piper make another door this airplane has a standard six-pack it's got the dual vor dme adf um and it's got two kicks 155s i am in the works of upgrading the avionics it's not going to be a drastic upgrade i'm probably just going to put a gps center and i'm probably going to take the adf out it breaks my heart out what's an adf uh to shoot ndp approaches so you know are there any lift there are actually yes that dent and there is one i love this airplane so much all right so we'll give the warrior a break here and take lola the cessna 210 to hutchinson and i will be in the back seat today i haven't flown in the back scene a long time but i feel really comfortable because you're both cfis and christy you have a type rating for a regional jet is that right that is correct all right we'll talk more about it over lunch awesome let's go we'll fly all right [Music] okay i'm gonna close the door um okay there we go sorry pre-flight's complete tow bar is removed seat belt secure secure right brakes are set uh chrissy's working radios i'm flying pilot flying the winds and barrow i've gotten the barrel is 30.0 and winds are very light from the south slightly quartering we will be a little heavy because we've got uh full tanks but lola doesn't mind okay all right so we're gonna go ahead and get started quarter inch all right claire claire prop okay here we go we are going to a class delta airport excellent okay k hut confirm confirmed activate so hutchinson um has a nice long seven thousand foot runway we're probably gonna be landing runway one three and um pattern altitude is 2500 all right so traffic we've got the uh cub here that's uh going to be landing in the grass but we'll go ahead and wait for him for situational awareness on his part set flap set to 10 like interest free and correct okay you ready yep certain traffic centurion 4620 yankee uh departing runway one seven thing uh right closed traffic steering i got one seven on the runway one seven confirm that one seven on my compass all right that's check complete hey good manifold pressure airspeed air coming up or approximately three miles to the east it's gonna cross over midfield there you go right now one for runway one seven streaming air coming on [Music] don't know if you want it in having or if you want the magenta line here uh it doesn't matter i've gotta also have it here uh what altitude are we climbing to four thousand five hundred okay we're traveling one three nine or four six turning up right base runway one seventh traffic and you've got traffic on here so yep no factor there awesome looking good all right after takeoff checklist so gas prop mixture flaps okay we're driving over 13946 turning [Music] i like you a lot dan i like you too christy i really like flying with you i really do i i honestly i just like being your partner and this is why i do i love flying but i just really like being your partner this has been a really fun journey so and i i can't wait to see what we do next we we've been doing a lot of cool stuff lately yes yes it is a lot of fun all right we are currently 25 miles out i'm pulling back my rpm yeah you got it cruise power is desired would you like your cow flaps closed uh yeah all right we have um pretty tall towers they're gonna be just off to our right as we uh enter their delta okay i'll be on the lookout for those towers [Music] centurion four six two zero yankee hudson tower g scotch for three tv and tennis five east appeal report left downwind runway one tree we'll be looking for those towers out of your left downwind one three four six two three uh briefing the landing upon entering downwind we'll do our first guns check at that point i will lower here uh and first degree first not to collapse on base second not to collapse on final third notch flaps i want to be 90 on short final 80 over the number 70 near touchdown power's still inside yep i think we found the uh turbulent player yeah terrorist centurion 4620 entering left downwind for one three zero yankee runway one tree cleared two land win now one six zero at eight all right one three clear land four six two three eighty thank you all right one more gasp on our carriage mixture all right you'll have just a slight crosswind from the right all right you're fine hey runway mate okay looks like we got tie downs over here or we could set up right here right here next to this beautiful plane avionics lights who are one of them well here we are christy and dan thanks for joining me with hutchinson at the airports airport steakhouse christie and dan i met for the first time not quite a year ago and my first visit to uh because we did it in august we shot in august yeah yes that was the in the hangar my first appearance in the hangar it was probably the i don't know third time maybe that you were doing it or a second i think it was season yeah season three third and um you know i'd already we'd become friends uh chrissy was friends with brian long before but i'd gotten to know brian really well just right at the beginning of in the hangar and brian came back from osh in july and you had done the poster thing with um for the two charities right and he told me about you and i said to brian it'd be great if if we get martin on in the hangar and you know i had seen you and observed your work in the studio which is a professional setup like like nothing i've ever seen in the youtube world at all you have access to all that nice equipment i run a film and video production company but i'll tell you it used to be 10 years ago you know we could really preach you know hire us because we're high quality and how important that is and and in the corporate world for our corporate video it's still somewhat true but in in in the last 10 15 years of youtube explosion and people moving their eyeballs away from network tv and away from cable and onto the computer and onto youtube it opened up a door for anybody with a camera and you know just right out of their pocket to shoot things and and it brought home i think to hollywood and their and the people way up big it brought home that it's not about the quality of the camera it's not about quality sound necessarily although it can distract it's about the content right and it's about the storytelling so i had seen you a couple of times work as a team during in the hangar recordings today for the first time i witnessed you work as a team in the cockpit and i was impressed oh you were it felt good it's like cool we passed the test it felt like a pretty well-oiled machinery you've done this before right together yeah we i mean we've flown together several times several times yeah yeah the the the roles uh you know who does what uh how you remind each other of things that that seem well-structured and well-rehearsed christie is that something that you brought in from your from the airline training or had you always been doing it this way i mean we honestly we had always worked together as a crew obviously my airline training has prepared me a little thoroughly like i'm definitely i've got more structure more thoroughness and whatnot and there and not only that but the reasons why behind it um i have definitely integrated that into the g8 cockpit as well but dan and i mean we were always we always briefed our flights before who's doing what this that we're gonna you know dan's a great co-pilot to work with so we'll get back to in the hangar later but i'd like to hear uh each of your stories of how you got into flying when in your life did that happen were you always interested in airplanes from young childhood or what what planted that seed if you remember oh gosh uh mine goes back almost a lifetime i've wanted to be a pilot pretty much my whole life i've been fascinated with airplanes and when i was about four years old my grandfather got me this little book and i was fascinated and i remember so distinctly my favorite airplane was the dc-10 and just being four-year-old me you know i'd draw pictures in it i had that book i think until it fell apart um but i was unable to realize my dream just you know we we grew up very poor and i it was you know go to college and you know so i paid my way through college and i could never afford flying i took a couple discovery flights in 2007 um and was fascinated i'm doing this and you know it was something that i knew i had to do and then i looked at the price tag and i went oh my gosh i can't do this this is so expensive and i just gotten done with college and um i i got into my career um and i was an allergy specialist and that career actually helped bankroll me into being able to afford to learn how to fly so and it wasn't until 2014 when i met my friend heather um she's a captain for an airline and i i was like oh my gosh you're you're a captain you're you're my age and you're amazing you fly these big beautiful jets and um she really started to re-inspire me she relit that fuse we uh we bought the warrior uh right before i took my check ride and then as soon as i got done with my private pilot check ride which took me five and a half months uh because i was i was very you know determined and then um i rolled right into my instrument training and then the rest is history i exactly three years you know zero to hero for my first hour logged with steve in february of 2017 i hit my 1500th hour that same day three years later well for me getting into aviation was similar as a as a kid i just like the books i remember some of my favorite books were all about airplanes world war one and and world war ii especially and became really fascinating with world war ii and and as a elementary kid we'd get popsicles every day and i i would when we were done eating our popsicles i'd take my stick i'd get all my friends sticks and for like the whole school year i collected popsicle sticks and i took them home and with a steak knife i would cut the round end off of each popsicle stick so that i had these planks you know my favorite show at the time was baba black sheep with robert conrad flying the f4u corsair in world war ii and i built a gull wing corsair out of popsicle sticks when i got to college um i had some time to do flight lessons and then i got the price tag i was like okay well i have the time i don't have the money then later when you have the money you don't have the time because you're working so hard to get that money and so it was a catchy 22. so i never did it and go through adult life go through work everything else and in my film and video business growing that then about eight years ago the drone craze kind of started and it hit my industry really hard because the drone offered a new perspective that wasn't really available before we used cranes and jib arms and things like that for some shots but the drone was phenomenal and this is before the phantoms and everything else and and i bought a huge octocopter that could carry an 18-pound payload so a really good cinema camera and i learned to fly that now the problem was is that the rules at the time only if you had a commercial pilot's license could you do commercial drone work there was no other way around it so you had older on the fly well no i a commercial pilot's license going to take you know years and it's going to take 60 000 i couldn't do that neither could all and about that phantom the phantom ones are coming out and everybody's doing it so i could spend sixty thousand dollars three years get way behind all my competitors it was the wild west everybody just started doing drones and they basically said you know screw you faa i i we can't do it the faa took some of the more visible guys and and pressed them to court and court said faa this is unenforceable you need to have a pathway it's unreasonable to expect these guys to go to a commercial pilot's license the faa said at that time okay we'll do a stop gap right away if you get any level pilot's license you apply for what they call the 333 exemption then you can do commercial drone work so i said i always want to learn fly now i have a reason to learn to fly so in january 4th 2015 i took my first lesson and five and a half months later was ready we got delayed because of weather but did my check ride a little over six months later and i got my private pilots i got my 333 exemption applied for one of the few who was legally able to fly drones but it was still the wild west and nobody was doing it and then um of course two years later they came out with the 107 drone license now i knew i'd fall in love with aviation and so i did and so here we are the irony of that story is that um i got my commercial pilot's license yeah and how much do you instruct these days me not so much christy um i uh well i stopped instructing when i went to the regional um i do a lot of like i'll do checkouts and stuff for my flying club um i do some pro bono stuff uh just like a lot of ground work and what like what not as well so but um you know as you know the the there is a very good possibility that i will be furloughed starting on october 1st so i will um be going back to flight instructing which you know so it's a funny story about me in flat instructing um when i got my cfi and when i got my double eye i did not intend to be a full-time instructor i i got it to help my flying club i'm not even joking you know and then i got the opportunities that i did with you know i joined the cadet program through my airline and uh i really lamented over that decision i'll be honest because i was i had i'd only instructed i'd been i think a cfi for about eight or nine months at this point and i only had recruit about 100 hours of instructing you know of instruction given and so i was really scared because it was like okay i like i just this is throwing me into the fire kind of thing um but man i loved it and i think that's key right because students can tell if an instructor likes what they're doing or not man i was i got so invested in each one of their successes and when they had you know the small failures and stuff like that or small setbacks i was right there with them you know like propping them up and cheering them on and um we we really developed very good relationships along the way and i'm i'm so proud of all my students you know they all passed and so um so that's why you know with the whole situation regarding the furloughs i'm you know it's very unfortunate it's affecting a lot of people but i know i'll be okay because i really enjoyed the instructing and and going back to that is is going to be equally fulfilling well it will be fulfilling to me on some level i won't get to fly my my beautiful regional jet but um i'll be okay because i'll be able to instruct well let's check out the brunch buffet and then we'll talk some more alright cool [Music] i know what you do within the hangar right and i i love it but you already had a video business established doing completely different work that i have no idea of can you talk a little bit about what kind of projects you took on would there be something that might have seen and without even knowing it was you well a couple different things you know bread and butter is corporate communications and that can be like internal or external so external is going to be your marketing videos and things like that things the company might use for social media to get to to do brand awareness or uh to get sales product videos things like that and we work with small companies all the way to the very big companies like airbus helicopters but we'll do uh we'll also do interior internal video like training and stuff like that at some point you decided to um come up with some aviation content and you did it very differently from uh the normal youtubers where they go flying with their gopros and well it started talk to me about the very beginnings of what eventually led to in the hangar and how the the two of you met okay and came up with it let me do a follow-up to what we were just talking about of the film and video so so corporate was my bread and butter um i also lately have been doing a lot of tv and so we we my company produces a reality tv show for a network and um so we did a ton of traveling for that and in addition to that i've done feature films too over the decades i've done five feature films so there is some stuff you might have seen but i don't know i commerce some commercials but um not as much were you the producer i was the writer director producer yes i was i was everything on those but uh i kind of got burned out uh on the whole hollywood thing it's a it's a brutal brutal industry and it's not it takes the joy out of it so it kind of came back to my first love which is just going out and being creative with cameras and getting back into corporate which then led to you know you heard my story about getting back or getting into flying was the drone stuff well um i wish i had put two and two together and started my channel when i started flying the people that started with these new things called gopros and they just started sticking up different places the cockpit of an airplane um those that long ago well it was 10 years ago already but those guys have tons of viewers and subscribers because they they started back when it was just novelty just it was unusual content to begin with nowadays you can start doing that it's not unusual you're not gonna it's it people think it's real quick easy to make a youtube channel and it's not but i started flying but i didn't put in and then i had my business of doing video production and i had it i had you know six seven eight gopros that i used for business you know and all my other cameras and everything else and but flying was for the drone you know so i didn't didn't put it together that hey i could put a gopro on the camera and start and it wasn't until in the business world i had a client ask me how do i build our company youtube channel and i had a lot of theory and i you know i have my own youtube channel for my company but you know i had 50 subscribers i mean it's a business to business a b to b operation you're not going to get numbers so it's not about that and so i could tell them well here's how they say is best to build a youtube channel and and i realized you know i i wasn't speaking from a position of experience and so i decided you know what what can i do as an experiment to see how to build a youtube channel so i could talk to my my corporate clients and so oh i know i could put gopros when i when we go flying to the shoot and i take the crew i could throw cameras on there and do and start to try to build a channel that way so it really started as an experiment to see if i could build a go a youtube channel yeah and we we had kind of met and so like dan through facebook we met through facebook through our uh the north texas aviator's facebook page um we'd begun talking and stuff so dan had just started this channel and he was looking for pilots to go fly with and i was one of the very you know early like very first ones that he had reached out to because um you knew my presence on there you were okay so on facebook you know you can't get the it's hard to get a really good taste but you were always so extrovert you were always so positive and well quite frankly very likable well thank you and so on that what happened was this about four months into doing the channel of flying videos and putting the gopros in the cabin and doing what everybody else is doing um the idea came about to do an in the hangar type show where we just do hanger talk as it were and and talk about these different things yeah so that i was like one of you would i think you had done like one or two other flights and then you you had reached out to me and you're probably thinking this creeper is you know stalking me no i'm just kidding no no no no and dan was like well i tell you what christy he's like if you go you know you pass your commercial check ride i will i will hire you for your first commercial gig so i i did the check ride i got the commercial and sure enough he was like great let's go up in and i was like wow okay so i think it was that day he was like so you know honestly i'm thinking of starting this show and i'd like you to be my co-host and i was like okay like really it was very rough at first you know like just the idea the concept was there and i was like sure i'll play along i'll entertain this i like talking about it he's like we'll we'll get in the studio we'll talk about airplanes we'll just that whatever hey i talk about airplanes all day every day so this works so i remember you know we got everything together and and we really didn't like we put it all together and everything and then we shot that first season and i just remember going wow that's like i think we have something but i'm not 100 sure like what's gonna happen and then we did season two and then people started recognizing me like in the fbos and stuff i literally like so i was doing contract work flying other airplanes at this point and i would go to some of the local area fbos and people would walk up to me like hey are you christy wong and i was like yeah and they're like where's your sectional leggings you know and um asking me for my autograph and stuff it was really really weird and i was like all right and then we shot season season three and then of course season four and it's just it's grown and grown and grown but it was just it was amazing how it just that opportunity kind of came together it brought us together and what i love about our dynamic people keep out so here's the biggest question christy are you are you going to go off and build your own channel and the answer is not right now i'm not gonna say no never but not right now and this is why i think you and i have a very good balance on the show you are film production first aviation second whereas i am aviation first and film production second and that balance really it's a very good dynamic it keeps us all together because if it were up to me i'd be all mike petey and just record stuff on my iphone and there you go um but you and i have nothing wrong with that well no no there's nothing wrong with that but it's just you bring a lot of higher quality you know value to to what we do and so i think you and i have got very very um similar like missions for the for the show and just for aviation in general but different visions of how to get there which works but it works well it was but it's just amazing that dan has he's he gives me creative carp launch almost to go and do these things and i need to now that i in my situation you know if i get furloughed i'm going to be taking advantage of that more and we've talked about that we've kind of briefed it ahead of time okay so i'm going to have a lot more time on my handstand you know these are the things i'd like to do and and he is all for it you know and i love that thank you again for letting me do that because that's it's an amazing experience you know oh and the other thing to understand is i have my video production company and i have a small staff but to put pull something like this i mean even any shoots i have i hire freelancers all the time i don't have enough staff to to cover everything like that so i have a rule if it's a non-revenue producing thing i can't use my business assets and so in starting this youtube channel and doing in the hangar it's non-revenue i mean people think that we're making tons of money but we're not and so as a non-revenue deal i i did not bring in the s films my company's assets and stuff uh like staff um you know i i um i asked for all volunteers and so the people running cameras were not the normal people i hired to do cameras and and uh we had we got a lot of volunteers in so um it was a little bit hard for me from a production standpoint because in some ways it's the s films brand and if we didn't have good camera work or good lighting or good sound you know it was hurting us and the same thing in the airplane and my you know it's funny is because like i i pitch videos i do videos for companies in the aerospace industry and i'll i'll show them videos and i'm a little bit worried about showing them some of the stuff i'm taking off because we're using gopros and really bad audio sometimes and things that we just don't do in in my world and so it's been a struggle in that way but as the channel has grown we get a we get a little bit of sponsorship thank you wingfield and flying eyes thank you applying guys yeah exactly and now i can hire some of my freelancers to come and like like this acca event i've got you know i'm actually paying for some of my my people to be here and the quality goes up when we do that well and dan and i have an agreement as well i think that's a quiet this is a question that i get asked is oh are you guys making money off the channel the answer is there is some there's a little bit not a lot a little bit of revenue coming in but we've both agreed to put that right back into the channel by paying our staff by you know paying for the equipment and paying for this pay yeah exactly i mean you don't realize how much it costs i mean it costs you know for hotel and food expenses and everything else so the revenue that's coming in right now does not go to dan and i it's going to our staffers and by the way they're amazing they have been so amazing so shout out i just want to get a shout out to hannah hannah alex alex forrest and then we've got a couple of uh volunteers i still have some volunteers yeah so we've got uh kevin ben and jay have uh volunteered uh they've eagerly wanted to get involved so thank you to all to all of them um but yeah so as of right now that's kind of where we're at as we grow the channel now if we get to a point where we start gold and you know things start really happening dan and i will sit down and we'll reevaluate um but that's where it stands we love this channel so much we love what we do we are willing to reinvest that right back into it i think a lot of people appreciate the channel the numbers are moving in a good direction when i when i first was on the show i had more subscribers and since then you have outgrown me by quite a bit we have grown fast and and that's been good it's it part of me though struggles because i want the home run you know i want the one video that goes out there and gets three million views like like brian keith and wolficorn just got you know but that's probably unrealistic and you just have to get solid base hits and doubles every now and then and just slowly and and we've been doing that and you know even as of when we did when we shot the last in the hangar we were at 11 000 last february subscribers now we're at 22 we doubled just in five six months and i think that's that's where that mentality to that like you know you're the filmographer first and then aviation second yeah me i am excited about the the aviation content that we're putting out the different like all the cool things we got to do this weekend and the people that i got to talk to about flying and things like that that's what i mean i i definitely want the the viewership but i'm looking at it as in like hey we can push more like aviation content to the people um and uh you know i get the opportunity to talk more about flying in airplanes and i'm living my this life's passion of mine it's this is it's just an incredible experience i'm so excited about what's coming next you know it shows how how quickly you can grow if you have something that's a little off the beaten path yeah there's a lot of aviation channels and there are hundreds out there that show their flights yeah but there's only you know one brian turner for example right exactly who does the funny things and and only one professionally produced aviation talk show on youtube like yours and so you stand out and well thank you people recognize that um i want to kind of put this out there too so like of course i'm not a professional actor i'm not a professional like a host or anything like that um i we didn't have a teleprompter we don't i mean literally in the hangar we don't use it we don't use a prompter in the hangar so everything you get on there from the teaser to the intro to the closing to everything is i mean pun intended on the fly like it's everything those quick teases that we do oh my gosh we come up with them right before about a minute and 30 seconds before we roll so sometimes when they're goofy or sometimes when they're a little shaky i don't know why that's why you know well okay then my favorite one is is that christy challenged me to work my three words into a tease and if i did i would what was it a dollar or a five dollar bill or something it was but it was like i bet you can't work it because it was sugar-free chocolate pudding that's right it was sugar i think it was a sugar so going into the teas of this episode i had to say sugar-free chocolate pudding are you an airplane owner you wonder if you can do your own oil change or if you can check and see if there's something in your fuel line like water or sugar free the sediment well we're going to be talking about what you can be doing to be putting maintenance into your own aircraft in the hangar so i spread it out he did and it made it make sense yeah yeah just stuff like that that we've had so much fun along the way we've learned a lot yeah we've learned we've learned a lot you know from season to season you know you can go back to that first season and see that there were definitely some shaky episodes and now you go about like season four and what we're doing now you'll see like so we're not perfect for we're obviously human but they're a lot better quality a lot of our we had some audio issues those have been done in the first season the first episode that we recorded the first two episodes one our volunteer camera person for didn't he double clicked it so he wasn't rolling so we had it was the guest camera close-up so all i had was a wide and me to tell this whole story yeah it was rough yeah and then you learn from those mistakes yeah every way every season we learn we learn more and more and and the thing is like so i actually for the next season of in the hangar i want to start like being behind the cameras every now and then too i'm the host but on the ones where just dan does it you know i want to be behind the cameras and learn and see without like every time like i do that i stand behind like alex for example and i'm like okay so what's going on show me what you're doing what are we doing here you know i'll tell you something about the airplane later teach me this now you know like so that josh flowers takes your job as a host you could take hannah's job as the technical director exactly and then hannah can take my job as a pilot so oh there you go maybe no um so you know just stuff like that it's it all of this so it's a collaboration it's it's a passion project it's a work of love is what it is we do this because we truly truly love it i love this i couldn't imagine not doing this now in the hangar and taking off for such an integral part of my life i mean it's just an amazing experience shall we check out the desserts and i have two more questions for you all right and then we'll get out of here let's do it [Music] all right dessert time we're nearing the end but a couple of more things i'm curious about one is when i came yes when when i came to your show i had the easiest job possible right i said in the audience i watch i listen and um you know for the couple of episodes i i was up on your stage for uh you know they were they were topics i was familiar with we had discussed them before all good all fun i enjoyed it and then i see you doing this 25 or 30 times over the course of a weekend with different people and different topics and not much time between episodes if i had tried that i think my head would explode before how how do you prepare for that to make that manageable and how does it actually work out then when it happens so i'm built to be a producer and what i mean by that is that in the film and tv world in the video world a producer will be working on multiple projects at one time so i'm very much the add kind of person that can be and i'm very impulsive and so because there's a lot of bad things about that but the good things is i can you know handle a whole bunch of things at once okay so that's an area that that i can i can live in i'll tell you in season two um i did not prepare enough i did not do enough background and at times i remember i remember there was one situation where i was like hey christy why don't you do this one i mean they're sitting there they're getting up on the stage i'm like kristy once you do this one and uh how about your you know what do you think about this opening kristen go what about this and so we worked it out and what about these questions and we're off the side doing that and then chrissy goes on to do the show afterwards the next day the the guest emailed me and was pretty upset that we did not prepare for him that we did not that we weren't really ready and um now i think he overreacted and i think that and he felt he he wasn't very good because of it right and i thought he was good i didn't tell you about all this and um well you had told me that um we needed to prepare better and stuff like that that's where it came out yeah so i try to learn you know in everything even on my channel comments and stuff i try to learn and i try to make myself better and so after second season i now start a month out and i start doing background and i create a spreadsheet with tabs this is what i did for season three a spreadsheet with tabs and that's i think your first one and so i had all my i went like so i knew i was going to have martin paulie so a couple weeks before the episode i go in and i create my questions and i research you and i went and looked at some of your videos and i went and did some of that stuff and i'll research it and i'll create kind of like a you know note card you know of different actually i use note cards of the different things i want to hit and so then i can just get rid of that and go to the next one oh we're going to be talking to joe casey about you know and and so i'll line up 30 guests and and i'll try to prepare as much as i can now on the day we might be presented with martin paulie going hey i'm also real good on lean a peek i was like oh let's add that to this and we'll we'll pivot and i want to have that ability because i think some of the best shows have been that way well and i think part of it too was um you don't want to you don't want to burn the fuse and there's a fine balance there so we start so we we we decided early on in like the first and second seasons now we knew some of our guests already like we knew who they were and what not but there were guests that we obviously didn't know and dan didn't he want the reason why he wanted me to do like episodes like that when i didn't know who i was interviewing was so that i could have an organic conversation with them you know so tell me about this who are you what do you do you know things like that he wanted it to come off genuine because again we're early in the seasons and i i still have no clue what i'm doing you know stuff like that and i think and into it to address that yes in in my corporate video business some of my corporate clients might come off to rehearse two stages too scripted and so i i'm all the time encouraging my clients to not be over prepared because it just it doesn't work now but there's a balance and in season two i think i was underprepared so i don't want to be over prepared i don't want chrissy to be over prepared so that's what i right so but that's that's part of the learning lesson that's part of the balance is you know we're trying to figure out like you know um how to manage that because we don't we we want it to be organic we don't want to burn our fuse but at the same time we also want to like be a little bit prepared so that we can have more um direct questions for that person we can probe better if we know oh this product does that and i didn't know that i'll tell you again i think it was second season i was on the set and i really had again second season was kind of a turning point for me because i got on the set and i did not know why i was talking to these people and they were really important people i just i didn't live in the world that they lived in in aviat that part of aviation and it was a big deal their thing was a big deal and and i was asking stupid questions because i just didn't know so i i came out of that said never again but um so we you know he creates a spreadsheet and then i get access to it and i go in so i'll do my research i'll add my notes as well um and we collaborate on that and then um and then as far as the day of for me anyway i mean we both we bring in a bunch of different wardrobes for wardrobe and then it's literally it's like a mad dash i mean you saw us it's like all right roll credits cut all right christy you're gonna do the next one blah blah blah go ahead go get your wardrobe change touch your makeup blah blah you know and something i had interesting this last season is i actually had a hair makeup lady yeah that was that was new season four we've been able to prove every time because now we have a little bit of sponsorship money can hire some of the freelancers and and bring in a makeup person so season four was even another step up and i think we did 34 episodes over the over the yeah two and a half days so in season four is as we we've you know amped up and gotten better one thing that's been an immense help is i brought in an associate producer who could watch our backs from an aviation standpoint he i had an associate producer alicia who's from the video world but she's not a pilot so what i did is i brought in matt wells who is a pilot and he's air traffic control and he sit now matt i bring him in a month before and and i'm using him more and more now he's becoming the point of contact with all our guests in the month before the this big taping and he'll give them everything and then matt in season four i had a at a cheat screen we put an ipad that's just beyond the camera for me and i could see it and if i wasn't if if matt as a pilot as an aviation expert out there he was out there and he would send me a message of a follow-up question that was cool it's growing though and we definitely we are content you know we're going to continue to grow and expand we just filmed some in the hangers this weekend so that's cool location here on location so we got nine done yep and uh we will be doing season five yes well season five in the hangar will probably be toward the end of the year um november december this time yeah because we shot so many in february and we shot these nine that you know instead of it being every six months which is what it was it's probably going to be a little bit later there's a lot of covet thing exactly there's a lot of up in the air because of because of that but we'll see what we can do and i mean speaking of the future um are you at all concerned about your ability to come up with new topics new guests to avoid repetition because aviation it is a pretty broad area but if i look at the message boards i look at textbooks you know a lot of topics are covered over and over again and so far i think you've been able to avoid that is that something you think you can continue to do or when we first started this show um we we were worried about that and what was that i had somebody i had somebody tell me i can't remember on the boards or something when we announced that we were going to do this somebody said well you know after 10 episodes you're not going to have anything new well and i was worried about it too but then once we got into it i quickly realized oh my gosh like we have a i mean yeah we could have i mean seriously we could have 100 different episodes just on emergencies yeah you know those are amazing stories especially when you've got the pilot in command there to talk about what they went through how they dealt with it you know things like that like the den bath story that was oh my gosh you know and that's the thing is that you know those episodes we try to aim for about around 20 minutes usually 15 to 20 minutes that story ran 44 minutes and people were still asking for more so and i cut it off too soon yeah i mean but we had gone 44 minutes or something or no we had actually run a little bit longer than that but you had edited just a couple of things out to shorten it up by a couple minutes but um just on that i mean there are so many topics and we come up with new things oh we should talk about this we should have a guest on like that so we've almost got 100 episodes i've already got still eight left in the can so we're at 106. we just shot nine that's 115. i am happy to hear that because i'm looking forward to seeing many many more episodes of in the hangar and maybe coming to visit again oh yeah oh please absolutely oh yeah thanks for taking time today to talk to me dan yeah you all the best christmas thank you thank you and the safe travels home yes thank you very much you as well and see you again soon i hope yeah all right thanks all right [Music] you

Channel: Martin Pauly

Views: 6,996

Keywords: PiAhB, Pilots in Airplanes having Breakfast, aviation show, Christy Wong, Dan Millican, Sectional Leggings, interview, ACCA, Cessna 210, Wong Warrior

Id: y-asuH2tl1w

Length: 48min 14sec (2894 seconds)

Published: Fri Oct 30 2020