China's Dystopian Social Credit system

recently they put in what looked like metal detectors right but they're actually uh like they've got cameras on either side and when you walk through it lights up and it takes obviously it takes a sort of 3d image of your face good morning sea milk good morning bad morning bad morning bad morning indeed we're stuck here standing around in the sun we found a bit of shade now but what happened was we're in this parking lot that's just behind us here there's a big pay for parking but when you exit the parking lot you actually have to you get these tokens and you've got a machine and you play right but the machine just basically froze and broke and we're just waiting now for somebody to arrive you know that reminds me of what social credit scores and surveillance facial recognition uh it's a big topic right now in china this whole facial recognition thing we're going to hit the road and talk about it yes we are so we escaped we escaped with with a minor case of heatstroke it's terrible you know it's it's just like guangdong here the heat isn't it's just very very hot the sun's very strong as well well anyway we uh we made it out that was but you know what else is what the maybe surveillance in china right now yeah massive massive issues so basically what's going on is china's gone full black mirror have you ever watched black mayor well um i've watched black mirror okay yeah we do disagree on the way you say mir i say it like meerkat yeah and i don't know why americans say it like that but anyway long story short it's very much like that in that china is using big brother technology futuristic stuff to identify potential criminals future criminals and also aggregate scores for people based on their kind of political upholdings to make sure they're supposed to just their behavior and their behavior as well yeah well i mean let me talk about that a little bit because you know on the ground in shenzhen it's not as dystopian as everyone makes it out to be but they have installed for a very long time now they've had x-ray machines just like airport scanners basically in all of the metro stations right so when you go in to take the subway you will basically have to scan all your bags right recently they've put in what look like metal detectors right but they're actually uh like they've got cameras on either side and when you walk through it lights up and it takes obviously takes a sort of 3d image of your face right that's part of the whole facial recognition thing right they're rolling out also in all of the taxis and buses there are cameras you know and basically just to keep an eye on you in case you do something bad and of course you've got cameras everywhere in china but it's a mess but this is china and half the time the cameras aren't turned on right and uh for instance those things in the subway i know how technology works and basically they put out an infrared uh light right when they're scanning you you can tell half the time it's not working and so it's just it's a trial basis thing also in haching bay you can go see all the cameras they have fake dummy versions of pretty much everything for sale yeah yeah i mean what i'm trying to say is that it sounds scary but the actual implementation of it is going to be very difficult and it's not going to be as um you know people think it's this well-oiled machine that's just working turn right here yeah like it's it's what's it called it's not like black mirror in the way in the aspect of like it doesn't work nothing in china works properly so well it's just difficult to implement there because you know it's it's such a big country and such a big population right what you'll find is you'll probably find that certain parts of certain cities it works well but everywhere else it doesn't work at all i think it's just one of those things like the scary thing is that they're allowed or able to do this like you can't you know that's that's the scary part the government has that much power the problem is just like anything else in china it gets implemented quickly and then it also stops working quickly just like the building quality and you have no smoking laws and things like that they put it out in great measure you know ever all the government people get kickbacks to like get all these things these measures uh implemented and then at the end of the day maybe it just stops working yeah we need to turn right dude we can't turn right here to no entry so the next one we should have gone right back there parker anyway yeah yeah i know what you mean it's what's shocking is the fact that uh as a westerner you would be so worried about your privacy and uh your rights and all of that right and uh as a bit of an offshoot almost a little digression on this topic i want to talk about that attitude because let's turn right okay it extends to pretty much everything um when it comes to like western journalism for instance right um you know western journalists when they come interview people in china um sorry yeah i'm not gonna ride you over don't worry let's go um when it comes to uh interviewing people in china they don't realize that the people they're interviewing can get into a lot of trouble because right right in china you just don't have the same rights as you do in a place like america you know right all the civil liberties and all that nonsense but it's just it's it's getting worse like in that in that respect right yeah yeah i mean i'm just saying that to kind of put a little bit of perspective on this whole right right right because in china people are used to it people don't complain because there's no point like you can you can be upset about the whole idea of being monitored everywhere you go but it's not going to change the fact that you're going to be monitored it also doesn't make it right though that people are used to it like people aren't used to it here no no i mean it's not like it's not like a racial thing that they're just okay with it sure i'm not at all trying to defend it by the way right don't don't misunderstand i don't i do think it's not it's a terrible thing i get it it's just like when you use a western lens to report on everything yeah really i think it's very concerning in uh in the respect that not people are monitored like oh they're privacy they can see me in that they're using this uh monitoring software and all this other kind of stuff to dictate someone's actions and and monitor their behavior and limit what they can do yeah i mean like for instance the whole idea is that behind the social credit is that if somebody um behaves badly then they will have penalties like for instance they won't be able to get bank loans or they won't be able to travel or you know there'll be there'll be some penalty if you if you like drive badly a lot of something then you know you get a minus on your score and when you drop below a certain level you have to work hard to like improve it so they're gamifying uh i guess like uh culture in a way right like social culture they're trying to make people you know improve or also they're also trying to make examples out of some big people so that people down below will be scared that's how things work in china it's very top-heavy yeah so fun being being one of the most famous actresses yeah who's been missing for a while now by the way but before that she was banned from travel yeah uh because she had been dodging taxes yeah yeah and hers her credit her social credit basically uh prevented her from being able to leave the country right well i think they just don't wanted to leave the country so she doesn't flee with all the ill-gotten gays as well but i mean it is being marketed as as the as the social credit score system so people are you know getting scared about that but um anyway there's some more implementation like the facial scanning in places like xinjiang where they're very worried about religious uprisings yeah um so it's mostly being implemented there but it is now kind of moving over to beijing in those areas because you know that's the capital and things like that but it's not just it's not facial recognition and stuff there's more to it they're actually going through and this has happened um they're going through and checking people's when you go into the subway remember you have to go through security like you just mentioned right yeah yeah they're going through people's chat histories like on wechat and stuff to look for potential messages and stuff like potential messages like against the government or like you know i have a bomb i'm gonna put on the subway yeah and that to me is like not just like you know like completely blatantly uh destroying any semblance of privacy but also like terrifyingly paranoid never remember what happened to you on the mtr oh yeah with the the the big guy like came up to me and took photos of me right very like with no explanation that's the thing in china you can't be like what are you doing with these photos why are you checking my messages you have no right to say anything yeah 100 legal right to detain you hold you and you don't have to know why absolutely and uh that's something i try to tell a lot of the foreigners that i know is that at the end of the day you can't apply the western logic because if they want they can freeze your assets in your bank account they can cancel your visa they can kick you out here's the petrol doesn't matter what lawyer you have yeah i don't think a lawyer can help you in this kind of regard not especially in a political circumstance yeah like in china let's get some gas eh yeah oh man one of those you can't go in this way really you know we we have to remember that this isn't china right right let's just go around the block it's a different china yeah mainland china you you can just kind of drive in any which way but here the they've got like you can go in this way or you can't and it's it's interesting to see rules implemented yeah real real rules people follow them and you really get caught out and again that's why this whole social credit thing is there is because people don't follow the rules as i say this guy turns the wrong way down the road but um yeah but he is working the thing is uh there is there's definitely like a social um etiquette that's in force here right because if you do something wrong people look at you and like what are you doing you know that kind of thing but if you do something wrong in china people ignore you so you feel you can act with impunity and do whatever you want that's why the you know we'll talk about this in another video but why the crime rate is so underreported in china up here yeah is number one because they're not allowed to report on it but number two because people ignore it yeah so like they're like well i'm not a victim of that so i don't give a right basically that attitude and that kind of that's why they have to take we always talk about drastic measures in china they wait until everything is so bad yeah and then do something crazy right like just to ban stuff and that's what this is another knee-jerk reaction to whatever they think is happening with society right now yeah okay so i mean the thing is if you do live in china especially outside of the main uh big cities you do see that there's a lot of chaos you know people it's very chaotic people carry on with their own lives and uh if there's a law to be broken um and it's because it's just getting in their way they'll break it you know for sure you wouldn't believe the videos we see it's pretty scary stuff yeah it's funny how little the government actually cares about people's behavior in the countryside though yeah it's lit they literally couldn't give two so that's why all this heavy-handed stuff's in the city you see these ridiculous things how they overload vehicles they drive these weird contraptions that are totally unsafe right uh workplace safety and all this kind of stuff's a bad thing and and well we could go on forever turn right let these people go that's okay we're just going in front of them yeah um you know it's it's pretty scary at the end of the day um and so they need to have some kind of a system to try and force people to behave right yeah anyway no my point was just that it doesn't touch the lives of those people in the countryside yeah so many people have been asking us to cover the social credit system and it's like at the end of the day i'm just going to sum it up by saying that yes it's something that's going to be implemented it already is right i mean you know they got like uh ban lists for travel like they brand certain people from traveling because they behave badly as tourists overseas right like you know you got that story about the the people on the airline uh the passengers getting unruly and throwing hot water on the air hoses and stuff those people now are on a blacklist and they're not allowed to fly out of china right you know for 10 years or whatever so it's already happening in in those sort of ways um so it's just kind of an extension of that and you know what it to be honest it is the only way to deal with the chinese population as it is right now in the current political system and i'm not saying it's good i'm saying it's literally the only way that people are going to listen because right i mean just on my way over here to taiwan trying to cross the border and it's they it's right over here right yeah i believe yeah you've got you know the big thing says stand behind the yellow line and it says in massive big characters right yeah and then next to it it has uh is there a motorbike only place so no i guess you can go anywhere self-service hello woman's that nellie's yeah there's a bunch of these people over here you're supposed to put 95 in that scooter by the way 90 92 he said joe really yep okay they had a big thing on this the wall saying 95 but whatever i mean i can put 95 in it if you want i mean whatever let's do it let's put 95 in yeah um anyway sorry so what i was saying is you've got the big signs that say uh stand behind the yellow line then you also have like a loudspeaker blaring it out all the time stand behind the yellow line i've still got a full tank how do you open this shirt oh there you go yeah nice um so you've got that blaring you've got it written but people still just kind of wander wandering like there's a you know a middle-aged woman in front of me and she just walked right behind the person that was getting their passport stamped like and they they had to shoo her back right i'm using her as an example so they shoot her back hello go ahead so they should shoot her back and then when she did finally pass she stood right behind there to wait for her uh relatives to come through right and it's in that big no waiting areas there's no waiting right but she just stood there and the the customs officer actually had to get up turn around and say don't stand here go there you know it's just that kind of stuff that kind of person they're everywhere in china of course it's the older generation the younger generation is better but you've got millions and millions of people that have got no social manners or etiquette no i understand but i really i really i i the thing i disagree about is why they're implementing it and i don't think it's for public order necessarily but we'll get in there can you play i i i don't have cash okay sorry that's okay we didn't go to the atm we gotta go can you can i have 34. what's that i have some coins get rid of that crap ebay sensitive yeah i don't want it because otherwise we're just getting a massive batch yeah it's really inconvenient to take coins out though figure that out is that enough okay yeah so the the thing is i'm saying that when you've got people like that if you have penalties for bad behavior then i think that will stop them from you know behaving badly especially if it hits their their their wallet and i understand that's what worked in hong kong because you know they implement huge fines for things like spitting yeah those are fines those are not reach like it's still a free society right like people are allowed to say and do what they want my point is i think the social uh credit system and all this stuff is a symptom of a very very paranoid government and they're worried about unrest and losing power more so than if people are safe or behaving well yeah okay i can agree with that that's my opinion yeah right so for me anyway it's it's uh yeah it's just one of those system situations where i do not agree with it at all right i think it's terrible but at the same time i can understand that it would be a way to keep order right right i feel you i feel you anyway uh we have a lot of stuff to do today winston we are about to leave this city and head on to somewhere near that we are would you like to join me yeah i just have to get this thing started remember it doesn't work very well your kickstarter yeah so i'm here i'm here okay right behind you cool okay well i mean that was a pretty uh horrible topic to talk about but well i mean we have to cover it right people we did we did and again i just want to reiterate that it's not as bad as it sounds like the way it's being implemented is pretty shoddy and um yeah we'll see but it's there i can show you footage of all the things in the metro we can't speak for the future of it but this is what we've seen thus far yeah well uh man you know what this topic does have a lot to talk about i just have to add one thing yes um my wife has uh friends in the police you know in her hometown right and when i went to visit the home her hometown with her last time we all met up for drinks sure and they were telling us about a black foreigner who moved into town yeah and they were saying like how they they keep a very close eye on him and they make sure they always know where he is and stuff like that so you know the thing is as a foreigner you're being monitored anyway yeah that this is not a new concern for you we have headlined we have minders all the time these breaks are amazing we have minders 24 7. seriously i'm not even joking like 24 7. you have i don't mean someone's following you 24 7 but you have someone that's responsible for you 24 7. every area has their little police station right now right and uh what happens is they're responsible for all the foreigners living in that area right right right and so what happens is you basically they have to find you and uh then they have to report back that you're there etc etc so yeah i mean like as a foreigner we already have that so yeah right anyway she's going on too long so let's cut this topic anything you want to say before we sign off um i would like to say that i'm trying to find where we're going but whether you like to be monitored or not um or you are a well-behaved citizen that doesn't live in china so you don't have to worry about it 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Length: 18min 57sec (1137 seconds)

Published: Mon Oct 08 2018