Catching Hearts (2012) | Full Movie | Mark A. Marple | Jada Sanders | Michael Varde | F.C. Rabbath

[Music] [Music] so [Music] now [Music] [Applause] [Music] hello everyone and welcome to our show my guest today is mark gavin here to talk about his new bestseller we don't need god well professor what in the world inspired you to write this book well first i want to thank you for having me on your program frank and uh as far as your question well look around you there's no evidence of god yet that damaging meme still persists that there's some invisible entity up there that's watching us and judging us i don't need god to be happy and quite frankly if there was a god i would want anything to do with them well you sound so sure of that professor how can you be so sure well no one can be 100 sure frank but i have the evidence on my side and the other side all they deal with is emotion and tradition and morality look i am not the only one who has ever written a book gone on tv and told people what they don't want to hear but i do hope that i'm gonna be the last okay well um please look out for we don't need god out this week stay with us we'll be right back [Music] we that should give you about an hour i think are you gonna go to the playground after yeah i think so good i have some casserole left in the fridge if you want to have that for dinner okay and i'm leaving out the chocolate chips if you want to make those cookies again how's school going it's fine i had a big test the other day and spent the entire night before arguing with derek over the future of our relationship i didn't help with your studies i'm sure nope speaking of complicated relationships i'm heading to the court to finish the paperwork i'm so happy you got full custody of jamie that's just better for her all around i think so too chad however doesn't think so yeah i would imagine i will leave my cell phone on if you need anything call if not a great time i will see you later bye bye [Music] dean hold up a minute will ya why don't you come to church with me today i think what we're discussing is going to be right up your alley thanks but no thanks besides you know i don't believe in that stuff anymore since when i don't know dad since i started thinking for myself you carry this with you yep come on it'll be a bonding experience we hardly spend any time together anymore yeah well it's depressing here we'll go somewhere else no thanks there's a job fair in town i know you've been worried about that dad i just don't want to see you waste your life drinking you following me i see you come home stumbling around drunk look you can hide this from yourself but you can't hide it from me you can't hide it from god i know you think you're helping me but you're not i just want to spend some time together i know you have free time this weekend what so it's not enough that i'm i'm out of school i don't have a job and i'm living with my dad but i got to spend time with him too i don't need this look i'm not trying to guilt you into doing something you don't want to do [Music] uh i just watched it yeah i am so proud of you i can't imagine doing what you do wow 20 years of practice you have a gift i mean the way people hang on your every word i they believe in you it's all a lie i go out there and preach that god doesn't exist and then he shows up i thought we were past this you don't get it do you i think you've had a very long day so how about i uh draw you a nice hot bath and i'll have dinner waiting when you get out come on let's go come on jamie jamie are you hiding from me where are you are you behind the couch no are you in the pool no are you under the table there you are silly come out here what are you doing over there hi hiding why are you hiding from you me are you hungry no no do you want to go to the park i'm sliding let's go here we go so mr waller it says you're on your resume that you spent some time in france yes sir really my son is over there studying right now he loves it well let's just say i'm happy to be back home and i'm looking forward to getting my life started dean your resume looks great you have all the qualities we're looking for in our company unfortunately we just don't have the resources to add another staff member to our team right now wait uh i'm confused i thought you said everything looked great i did and it does we just can't hire someone else right now i'm sorry maybe try again in a few months look mr hughes i really need this job please if there's anything i can do just just give me a chance i'm sorry son we just don't need you right now [Music] [Applause] [Music] wow oh really nice yeah classy can you play with each other no sweetie go play over there for a little bit okay jamie i'll be right back okay derek i don't care that you ran into her you didn't have to get coffee with her i don't i don't care if she paid you know how she feels about you no i'm not acting crazy you're being insensitive to this situation i know i'm busy but i can't babysit you and jamie i know no look i have to go i'm busy no this this is a real job how can you say that i'm sorry you flip burgers for a living i i can't handle this right now i have to go jamie [Music] jamie i'm out [Music] jamie this isn't funny [Music] jamie this isn't funny you have to come out right now jamie please [Music] okay thank you you're welcome are you ready to order maybe in a couple minutes okay thank you you're welcome so what is this uh new book of yours all about you used to share this stuff with me i don't know what it's about neither is my publisher you know these deals are all made on buzz anyways but it doesn't really matter what it is the check will clear anyway well i know you'll come up with something you always do that's why i married you yeah but it's getting harder and harder to put words on a page i know what i saw and it's got to become more of what i do you're more than what you do mark yeah not to the people who pay to come see me i'm not what about me i mean i get free admission and um i love you no matter what you do yeah well you're different why's that because you really care about me exactly now look mark i you know i know you believe in what you saw but maybe it's time to start believing in yourself now well they're gonna crucify me laura i'm gonna be the mockery of the whole community you know people just don't change that rapidly i i just don't know anymore well we're in this together and we will get through it just try to remember why you call me your better three-quarters okay and now i'm going to use the ladies room and i'd appreciate it if you would get me a drink [Music] so i turned away for one second and she was gone anyone else around no she just disappeared well we'll give you a call if we need any more information is there anything else i can do that'll be up to the family at this point [Music] no no no i trusted you with her and now she's gone i don't ever want to see your face again [Music] hey did you hear what happened no i lost jamie you were really awful at your job no seriously she's missing i don't know what to do can you put the book down for one second and listen to me please i'm really lost derek you're just losing everything today you have got to be kidding me right now ginny relax no i feel so guilty and i don't know who i can talk to that's just real ironic because this chapter right here is all about guilt maybe you should read this or maybe you should just be a good boyfriend and be emotionally available to me just once sometimes i just don't know how to deal with i lost a child what do you want me to do how can i help you i don't even know why i came here i don't either i'm just a lowly burger flipping guy you're right my expectations are just way too high today we have a very special guest dr mark gavin he has graciously given us his time to express his views on the existence of god ladies and gentlemen it is my honor to present dr mark gavin thank you for having me here it's always a pleasure addressing the young people [Music] the future has to understand what it means to live in an age where truth and reason can free mankind from the straitjacket that's called religion look i i did come here tonight to tarnish your hopes but i did come here to ask you to open your eyes to the truth the truth begins with you by asking the right questions and the most burning question is where is the proof where is the evidence that god exists can you imagine a world without god no theocracies no holy wars now that is a world that i can believe in i think we have our first question from the floor okay professor gavin why are you doing this if you're an atheist why do you care well the world needs to progress without the fetters of myths and lies we need to take responsibility for ourselves instead of offering it to some imaginary character but why you robert browning once said that truth never hurts the teller so i ask you if there is a god and my message is so horrendous why is it that there is no thunder and lightning bolt striking me what if there really is a god what if santa is real or better yet the boogie man i mean the evidence is all around you we're we're evolutionary evidence but maybe you should ask your your your priest or your preachers or your mothers or fathers or or better yet maybe you should ask yourself you know what she means answer the question are you ready to face god if you're wrong i would gladly face him and give him a piece of my mind [Applause] [Music] so [Music] dr gavin i'm your biggest fan yeah so uh who do i make this out to claire doran that said d-o-r-a-n it is good to hear the voice of reason i have had so many arguments with my friends and family about their blind faith and you've definitely given me a lot of material to work with is everything okay yeah everything's fine say can i answer your question yeah when you read my book do you like how i'm writing it or how i'm saying it i mean even if you don't like particularly care for the content well i'm not in it for the poetry i'm more in it for like the science of it all you know throw some knowledge on them so you don't like the writing no it's just not what anybody reads the book for there you go thanks i can't wait for the next one yeah no pressure hey i heard what happened if you want to go look for the kid we can right now no jamie's mom doesn't want me to help and i have to respect that why she hates me she doesn't hate you jenny she's just hurting it's a lot to take in hey i saw derek downtown ugh um what what did he do he's just whatever he's not as awesome as i thought he was you want me to kill him for you no i want to put all the blame on him but i can't what's that it's jessica's is that that guy that goes around town preaching about how there's no god it's more than that how's that work if we it helps explain things better what do you mean there's no possible reason for a child to get kidnapped so if you get rid of god then things will be better i wouldn't expect you to understand what i'm going through [Music] [Music] hey man what are you doing out here i'm just taking a breather how's the party it's all right how you been man i've been good you uh you were there elise yeah yeah yeah yeah hey man hey how's life oh man my dad just won't leave me alone yeah yeah how's he taking the split ah so pathetic i mean mom took everything but i just gotta get out of that house that sucks i'm sorry man after what he's done to us i can care less about him forget about him worry about yourself i'll drink it up [Music] so i've been worried sick where have you been all night leave me alone gladly once i feel you can actually take care of yourself you know what i don't need to do this with you man dean what's going on you want the truth of course i do i'm scared i have no future it's not like when you were my age my degree is a joke everything they told me to do is a joke the economy's bad everyone's out of work no see you think you're helping me all you're doing is annoying me he told me stuff about god well mark gavin's book opened my eyes i don't need god i need god that's cause you're weak you think i'm pathetic or something what's wrong with me god sends hard times so we can find him maybe all this trouble is is just his way of getting you to come to him for help i don't want a god like that and neither did mom maybe you need to go to bed we'll talk about this tomorrow like good morning sir morning sure is a lovely day yep thank the lord it finally stopped raining this week yeah well let me ask you something you thank the lord for something as simple as the weather and do you really think that he's bothered no that's a thought uh-huh well i thank god for everything actually the rain the food and the breath of my lungs but especially the food well i suppose that's fair well that's it sir that's life i don't think you'd really like any of my books oh yeah why is that because it's uh all about why we don't need god is that so yeah but look it's kind of hard to explain it to you unless you've read a few of them but i'll tell you what here i got a couple of tickets this is for wednesday night i'm going to be giving a seminar over at the university well thank you for your kindness what i really like to do is talk to you about jesus do you know who i am yes sir and you still want to talk to me about jesus do you believe in god dr gavin boy you really haven't read any of my books answer the question do you believe in god i think you should leave me alone right now i'm moving on sir thank you but i can tell you're still not completely convinced okay the sake of argument what if i'm not because you'll be playing a game where people's souls were at stake and i don't think you would do that it's all about pride mark the beginning of the fall you don't want to fall into that trap do you god just wants us to let go sacrifice the one thing we hold dear to ourselves and that is ourselves it sounds like suicide to those who haven't thought it out be careful doctor or you'll be consumed by that lie you live what lie just any lie doesn't matter really thank you you've been very helpful for the record i read your books skimmed anyway some folks can't be told then why bother because he loves you everyone has a purpose you'll find yours dr gavin [Music] hey where'd you go park i've been losing sleep i keep having nightmares i gotta keep it real with you because i think it's time you understand how this works what you've been going through i see what it's doing to you and you go you gotta get some help i found help i'm reading all the help i can get jen said look at me you're my best friend please let me help you i keep thinking about jamie about lori i can't get them out of my head i know girl you got to stop blaming yourself i think i'm gonna go lie down try to get some sleep all right i don't mean to fight with you about god about anything i know you're just trying to help and i really appreciate it i'm here for you you know that thanks the time is near wake up people it's time to turn back to god do not turn your backs on him he loves you he is coming back soon wake up people before it's too late well if it isn't mr atheist himself you know that was wonderful i really enjoy your passion but your delivery system it's probably doing you more harm than good no people need to understand especially the youth that that life is not forever everyone will die and just because you're young now and think you have the world by the tail doesn't mean you can just abandon your creator carpe diem that's fantastic you know don't you think though it's time you step down and just let people go on the way step down you should be getting down on your knees begging god for forgiveness for what you've done look i'm not gonna debate you there wouldn't even be a debate your lifestyle what you do is deception look i'm just trying to tell you i don't think you have to be so forceful what is this are you trying to give me advice most debates are one with argumentative skills and to tell you the truth i just don't think you have it and you're trying to help me why look uh i don't like to go to war with an unarmed combatant you just you don't have a delivery system that's that's what i am that's what i do maybe it's your turn maybe someday god will speak to you or would you rather enjoy your 30 pieces of silver wake up people before it's too late god is coming his judgment cometh it is written won't you join me people in accepting who you are that we are sinners one and all good afternoon hello you're the girl that baby sent that missing kid yeah right what do you want to do blame me too i was only curious i see what you do around here talk to people like you care you're just some crazy jesus freak i've been called worse yeah well it's all for nothing i've been doing some reading marquette wait how did you know i saw him he's in town he's a nice man he's here really yeah you should attend his event wednesday wait why are you telling me this you just seem like the type person that would be interested well what do you want nothing you just seem sad i thought i would cheer you up well stop your friend mark gave me this ticket big dude on wednesday maybe it was meant for you all along what's the catch catch there's always a catch what is it no catch here oh maybe a coal [Laughter] yikes what not funny yeah well thanks for the ticket you're welcome oh it's worse than you think everybody's scraping for their piece of the pie sometimes jerry comes home and tells me he doesn't know if he's in the energy business or the lobbying business so how are you and mark we're doing okay i guess you guess i think he's having second thoughts i think i think he wants to retire retire why would he retire now because his heart's just not into it anymore these men in their midlife crisis no i don't think so jerry pulled the same stunt last year i think he wanted to grow out his hair or live on the boat and i said that he could when i was dead and all the children had been put through college you're lucky i mean i don't have kids to hang over his head like that you just have to remind him behind every successful man is a great woman and that will never change he's changed laura laura are you home hey i finally figured out what god wants me to do he showed me that i could be the devil's advocate and i could argue but of course i have to be fair in it i know what you're going through you do yes i do you're lost i can relate to that everyone can and i think you can help people i do see i think i can help people look just take a look at what we have created who could have imagined we could have built all this from nothing it was all built on lies laura that's why i can't do it anymore i said it was a lie mark oh did did god say it was a lie no but you know what i saw okay because you saw something you know that he exists look i don't have any proof oh so you're not completely sure look i've tried everything to believe in this until you are sure absolutely sure of what it is god is calling you to do don't do it i know you're happy with your little private change of heart but that's how it's going to stay mark private if you do this have you even thought of what would happen are you really that selfish look i'm not really sure what god has planned for me but i do know one thing he doesn't want me to lose my soul your soul is not at stake here mark i am at stake you really want me to choose you're a skeptic mark act like it so funny i'm starting my day out and you're just wrapping yours up yeah awkward hey want to go fishing absolutely not come on it'll be fun not for me it won't we spend hours in that boat praying we'll catch something we never do chance for a little father-son bonding we've had enough bonding as it is oh no we've had enough fighting as it is no dead it's not fun for me all you do is talk about old movies i've never heard of and jesus i'll see you when you get back i don't know i i think i may just skip it i i'm feeling kind of tired you really ought to get out of the house look i'll tell you what if you let me skip out on this one we can catch some dinner when you get home really promise okay see you around seven [Applause] so jamie jamie jamie look here [Music] i'll miss you hello yeah home boy what is he okay mom what happened surprise surprise surprise what are we on break i knew i'd find you here well i do work here well i've uh i've got something to tell you oh yeah what's that you were wrong about me i know who i am and you read me wrong did i yes then why do you care what a blue-collar working man like me thinks well i uh i just don't want you talking to the media or starting some rumors or something oh of course my media contacts the maintenance guy network uh we meet under the bridge bring your own broom yeah i'll write [Laughter] look i just want you to know that i know who i am i am dr mark gavin and i'm a self-made man and well respected in this community wonderful and i don't need your approval you're probably right however you can keep lying to me but you can't keep lying to yourself i'm not lying the moment will come when your integrity will outweigh your fan's admiration it's not gonna happen everything comes to light my wife was right this is absurd i i probably imagined the whole thing your clock is ticking the roar of the crowd has only tied a man so long i knew it was a mistake to come back here glad you came you got a lonely road here [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] um well i have a long face well i didn't mean to scare you away not much of a talker hey i gave a ticket to a young lady and it just perks her right up thanks [Music] hey dude how are you good yeah good morning sorry to hear what happened kid thanks i actually came to ask for help yeah with derek i can call some guys no you'll be happy to hear that we're no longer on speaking terms never want to give my opinion but good i was actually hoping to pass these flyers out in all the surrounding areas and you have an advertising company i didn't think jamie's mom wanted you to help out with her search effort she doesn't i'm kind of doing this by myself i understand trying to find a child they need all the help they can get so yeah pass it out you got it cool thank you [Music] what are you doing here look nikki said you're out here i just i wanted to come apologize i don't want your apology look i'm i'm sorry for the stuff that happened last time like i said some stuff i shouldn't have said you said some stuff you shouldn't have said it's just no i stand by everything that i said what you said was completely inconsiderate look i'm trying here this is you trying i'm sorry i just don't see us ever going back to what we used to be the situation has changed look you you obviously still care about my opinion i mean you went out and bought the book okay yeah a book recommendation is the one positive thing i got out of this and honestly i don't see the purpose of continuing we just don't have a future i'm sorry don't be like that like i came out here like no i'm sorry do something um good with your life [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] you a fan yeah i guess you okay no not really yeah me neither sad to say but i'm kind of glad i'm not alone what i don't mean to private you look just as lost as i am okay look i don't think i should be talking to anyone right now it's not a good time what's wrong my father just died and it was all my fault sorry to hear that they shouldn't have been driving with his eye condition he was in an accident i'm so sorry you know those people you see on the news who go through these unimaginable tragedies so awful and heart-wrenching but it'll never happen to you it only happens to other people i am those other people i lost a little girl i was babysitting no you're you i saw you on the news yep that's me well you're famous that book really helped oh yeah it's great it makes so much sense coincidences are just that they're coincidences it makes you feel so much better to to know that bad things can happen to good people i mean that way you can expect my dad was good people we didn't agree very much but he was a good guy the only problem with dr gavin he points out that when you lose someone you love you lose him forever but he's right he's so right you can't just close your eyes to the world it just makes it make sense no yeah yeah you know he's in town that's what i heard yeah i'm going to see his his new book yeah yeah i have a ticket to that me too maybe i'll maybe i'll see you then maybe oh well i gotta go i got a meeting with my mom and uh it's good meeting you likewise hey um just in case [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] hey don't forget it's your turn to do the dishes i know so i think i'm gonna go to mark gavin's book thing tomorrow really yeah i haven't done anything fun for myself in a while it would be like the first step i don't know i thought you'd be happy well that really isn't my idea of a party but then again what do i know i actually met a guy who's also gummy he's really cool we actually have a lot in common oh so you're both depressed yeah but that's not funny well it looks like i'm made to him i don't mean to sound ungrateful but i really need to do this for myself whatever you say you could come with you guys go ahead and hear from [Music] corresponding we'd like to have [Music] [Applause] thank you thank you all for coming [Applause] since the release of we don't need god i have heard the voices of a new generation a new generation of young minds searching for an answer an answer to a question that has cursed mankind since he first crawled out of the slime the debate has always been whether there is or isn't a higher power but there is such a thing as coincidences now i'd like to take a moment to uh get some feedback from the audience yes you dr gavin my name is dean and i just want to tell you that your book is it's really helped me through some tough times i just recently lost my father in a car accident off of highway 90 and he considered himself to be a christian he was always preaching to me about god what did you say your name was dean [Applause] i was there i mean i i i saw the wreck and and i stopped and i i pulled your dad out of the car he was really hurt badly and well i called 9-1-1 and they kept saying your name you thanked me for saving you [Music] oh i just can't do this anymore look i'm sorry but i now know that god exists look i've seen him at work i've been in denial for so long i've had these visions here sorry [Applause] [Music] dr kevin look i don't know what else to tell you no it's not that i just want to know more about my dad he said what he said which was what exactly [Music] he said that i was gonna save you from what you were gonna save me from what look i think you know the answer you're just afraid to admit it so you really believe in god [Music] hey jenny wait up i want to talk to you i don't want to talk to anyone right now i was just talking to dr gab don't talk to me about mark gavin i believe in everything that man said he was the only thing holding me together after everything that's happened it doesn't have to be like that she's gone and i have to accept that she's not coming back you don't know that i know that no you don't know yes i do dean well maybe maybe we can fix it oh how i don't know honestly after all that's happened i need to reevaluate everything oh so you believe in god now is that it i'm saying i need to reevaluate look after my father what he said where he was i can't just ignore that a week ago you'd have said that was a coincidence you're right but things have changed not for me they [Music] haven't [Music] well how did the event go can we talk for a second [Music] [Music] so hello yeah this is her you did oh she does she looks exactly like the little girl in the picture great yeah um yeah let me get your name and your phone number okay great yeah i will thank you so much [Music] bye-bye hi yeah i have a lead in the jamie davis [Music] case [Music] thanks george a community thankful and relieved the disappearance of little jamie davis made headlines while reports are coming in that jamie davis has been found jamie's father actually kidnapped her after losing a bitter custody dispute he stalked her for days waiting for the perfect opportunity to engineer what looked like negligence luckily a woman found one of the flyers on the ground and spotted jamie in a grocery store just goes to show you another happy reminder that one person can make a difference george back to you [Music] hey [Music] i see she's still running [Music] hey hey i was just driving by i heard about jamie yeah it's really good news yeah we've been praying for oh uh you go to church now i'm happy for you yeah every other wednesday would you like to come no thank you well why not just not interested but jamie's home now yeah she's back after all the hard work we did trying to find her are you serious yeah dean this isn't some kind of miracle it's not every day that something like this happens they usually don't come home it's kind of a miracle it's kind of her estranged father stalking us for two days so we could kidnap his child really after all this after after god brings her home after mark gavin's event you still don't believe yeah especially after all that god came knocking at your door and you ignored it [Music] foreign i did it wrong did weren't wrong i feel like my dad i mean he didn't do it right either but he was always there i was telling her what to do i was talking at her i don't know we can't change people we can only change ourselves and through our actions maybe they'll decide to change as well we can all afford to change nobody's perfect [Music] hello everyone and welcome to our show first up today a change of heart the ever thought provoking dr mark gavin is my guest again today and dr gavin thank you so much for being on our show thanks for having me on the show again frank now dr gavin tell me i know i'm not the first to ask but why the change of heart you know they always say god has a plan i wanted to see the blueprint but then i realized that the plan is for each other i mean when bad things happen god just doesn't appear with the magic wand and make it disappear the real question is how open are we to letting god in i mean when you make the choice will you have the strength to open your eyes or will you walk on by my purpose was to be made an example of and it was hard to accept but nothing noble comes without sacrifice where do you find that your former fans are coming around to see it that way some are some aren't i mean i hope they're not just doing it because i said so i mean that's no reason to base your belief on [Music] i can just try and share my story and hope they'll listen but what about those who don't listen well that just means we have a lot of work to do [Music] so [Music] i ugh

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Published: Tue Feb 02 2021