CANON R5 OVERHEATING: THE TRUTH AFTER 8 MONTHS OF REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE

We've all heard about overheating on the Canon  R5. But now having had the chance to shoot on   it for eight months let’s go ahead and spend  some time talking about what it actually means,   and how you can shoot around it.   I’ve been shooting on the Canon R5 for about  eight months now it's gone on every single shoot   that I have gone on both photography and video and  in that time I have been able to put it through   its paces uh it's not some abstract testing I've  done I've actually done a real world commercial   shooting with it and I think in that eight months  I've gotten a chance to kind of see where the R5   works and where you have these standard overheat  issues and I wanted to make a video talking about   that for you so you can kind of figure out  what that means for you if you're considering   purchasing an R5 and if you already have one  maybe some tricks to help you get a little more   out of it now first caveat for this this is for  videographers as far as photography is concerned   the Canon R5 does not overheat I put it through  some murderous brutal paces I live in Georgia some   hot hot weather all day 12, 14 hour shoots the  Canon has never overheated as far as photography   if you are a photographer if you are considering  the Canon R5 just go ahead and get it it's by far   my favorite photography camera I've ever had I  absolutely love shooting with this thing it is   a fantastic, fantastic photo camera. Now the reality  for video is a little different you definitely do   have overheating issues with the Canon R5  in certain circumstances. First thing I'd say   there are modes on the Canon R5 that you will not  get to overheat and I have pushed them very very   very very hard and I want to start off right off  the bat and say that if you shoot in standard 4k   or cropped 4k at 24 frames a second the Canon R5  will not overheat I've done hour-long interviews   with absolutely zero problem whatsoever in both  of these modes the camera will not overheat okay   so now that we know there are 4k modes that do not  have any overheating problems whatsoever where you   do run into real overheating issues with a Canon  R5 is if you are someone that uses high frame   rates and I just think that's one of those things  if you're a commercial videographer in today's   world you're going to be using commercial or high  frame rates just because it's so useful for b-roll   certain commercial applications it's a tool that  you always need to have now Canon 4k 120 frames   per second on the Canon R5 it is there um the  reality is that we shoot we don't pick up cold   cameras and shoot you using your camera throughout  the day 120 frames a second 4k on the Canon R5   it's very very limited. You may get, I was getting  maybe five to six minutes of real world time   experience with that and then the camera would  overheat if you do need 120 frames a second and   you have the option you can do 1080, 120 frames  a second with the latest Canon firmware update   and that gives you that option if you  need it to get away just so you know   now that's not a big issue for me because honestly  I don't use 120 frames that much it's so slow it's   such a specialized type thing but what I do use  all the time is 60 frames per second and I was   absolutely shocked if you are using a Canon R5 at  how fast the camera overheated if you're recording   to an internal CFexpress card inside the camera  I would literally get minutes and minutes of time   to do it and what I want to do is I basically  to show you this I decided to set up a test and   show you the different ways of how we can go and  approach the camera time now I wanted to do this   in a realistic time I don't when I'm recording  b-roll especially in a documentary type situation   I just don't hit record and let the camera  roll straight. You record for a minute you go   you recompose maybe you shoot for 35 seconds you  recompose shoot for 40 seconds level up so what   I've done is I've done a series of tests where I'm  just randomly getting random times no more than a   minute at any given time because it's a realistic  way I think most of you would shoot commercial   b-roll uh video and what I want to do is show  you the time differences in how you can approach   overheating in the Canon R5 and things that I have  heard so let's go ahead jump over the computer and   check it out okay so starting off here I have a 4k  no crop internal and as you see I'm sitting here   clicking through you can see me clicking my hands  as I normally do a minute here 45 seconds there   just like I would in a normal day and you can see  just how fast I start to overheat right here look   at that the overheat the overheating warning came  on about 18 minutes and look at that I was able   to get 21 minutes and 32 seconds and as you can  see here the the telltale sign is now that the   numbers are all red that means it's overheated no  matter how many times I press the record button   it does not work now someone had told me that  if I crop it at 60p I can get a lot more so I   did another version where I cropped my sensor  and shot at 60p but once again doing the same   method as I would normally shoot you can see I  ran the exact same problem it's internal recording   and the over look at that the internal heating  came over at 13 minutes is when the warning came   on and on this one I was only able to get look  at that 15 minutes and 40 seconds of internal   recording now I kind of thought that maybe one of  the things that was happening here is if I my HDMI   signal may be increasing my heat output so what I  did is I did another test where I completely cut   off my HDMI and I did only a recording internal  on the card and while I was able to get a little   more time this time without sending a signal  out I really didn't get that much more time i basically was able to push it right up here you  can see the overheating warning comes on right at   21 minutes and I was able to get it to right about  24 minutes and two seconds before I could not   record anymore on that screen. So because of this  I pretty much was putting together that the heat   failure from this camera is coming largely from  that CFexpress card internally in the camera so   I did another test with no card I removed the card  and shot just the HDMI out and this test let me   go for a long, long, long time recording as a matter  of fact I could not overheat my camera I let it go   for an hour continuously shooting 60p and it  did not overheat so I had a great result there   doing it so if you shoot HDMI only you can easily  get over an hour straight. O kay guys, so as you can   see there we did those tests it is pretty obvious  right from the start that if you're shooting on a   Canon R5 if you're shooting internally it's going  to overheat on it you pretty much are guaranteed   that if you want to get the best results from your  camera you are going to go ahead and need to get   an Atomos Ninja V or something like that just  to be able to get those longer record times now   when he did do these tests you know you could  see that I could get uh basically unlimited   record time once I was recording to that Ninja  via the HDMI but I did that test and it didn't   really go with what has experienced with me  and my real world experiences and I wanted   to go back and redo it that and something that I  would think was more realistic and that is this   when I'm shooting out there with a Canon R5 I use  the back screen all the time I think if you're in   a controlled environment like this we tend to put  it up there the back screen goes off and it gives   us sort of a false sense of what we can get with  the overheating but when you're out in the field   you're using the back screen all the time you  might be using it to touch for autofocus you may just   be wanting to check different components on your  camera so even if you're not recording internally   the back screen is very important because not all  that information goes to the HDMI to the Atomos   and there's just information you need to be able  to access on the back screen of your Canon so what   I'm going to do now is I'm going to go on let's  do a test again but this time what I'm going to   do is I'm going to leave the back screen on so it  more carefully replicates what I experienced as a   shooter out there in the world so let's go ahead  put that together take it up and see what we got   so here we are same test just an HDMI card  but this time I did leave the back screen on   because like I said it's just more indicative of  how I shoot I don't shoot with that back screen   off I'm always using it and as you can see here I  am able to get extended times at 60p with just the   HDMI but I am starting to see a difference if you  look here once I get up in about 40 some minutes   I've got the heat light come on and there you  go and at 50 55 minutes or so I can't record in   the card technically in camera anymore but I went  over an hour here and I could not make the camera   overheat so I would say it's safe to say at an  hour and 10 minutes you can record through the   HDMI cable even with the back screen on so that's  very very good news so you can see now the ways   you can work around the high frame rates if you  need it if you have an HDMI cable with an Atomos   you can really get a lot more from your high  frame rates and it's pretty much guaranteed to be   necessary if you want to shoot high frame rates on  the Canon R5 the other area that you will run into   overheating is 4K HQ and 4K HQ downsamples that  beautiful 8k sensor and gives you this really   crisp incredible looking 4k imagery but it comes  at a cost so what I want to do is to take the same   type of test again and show you how the Canon R5  overheats in the 4K HQ and what that means for you   so let's go ahead jump back in the computer and  take a look at that and now to demonstrate the   4K HQ with the internal card it is a very very uh  the footage looks great but it's a very very quick   overheating method this is 4K HQ internal and as  you can see it doesn't take very long before the   overheat warning about 16 minutes it comes on and  as you can see there I got 21 minutes before my   whole camera overheated with the 4K HQ internal  and when I jump over to 4K HQ with just the HDMI   while I do get more time it doesn't quite  give me the exact same thing as the 4k 60   and it's just a lot more intensive down sampling  from that 8k sensor and I do get a good amount   of time here with it but you can see that about  39 minutes or so you're done it gives me about 39 minutes and the camera cuts off right  about 40 minutes we'll give it we'll get   40 minutes because it's right there at it  that you lose overheating in 4K HQ even with   the HDMI okay so they are pretty interesting and  I really like these tests to show you because   these tests really in my opinion replicate what  I experienced in real world situations with the   Canon R5 and how it reacted so the final  verdict of overheating after eight months   with the Canon R5 is this there's a couple  points that I think you should be aware of   the first one is this if you shoot in standard  4k or cropped 4k at 24 frames a second the Canon R5   will not overheat on you ever I have never  had it overheat on me I've done hour-long   interviews hour plus interviews including setup  time composition all that stuff the camera has   been on for two and a half hours with a v-mount  never had a problem that overheating on me ever so   you know you can use the Canon R5 without  overheating issues and this is really important   because the standard 4k and the cropped 4k while the  standard 4k does not look as good as the 4K HQ   honestly I have found that as long as I'm not  doing high detailed product videography once   you add motion blur and other things into a shot  the standard 4k honestly still looks great I've   been fortunate enough now to see my R5 footage  both on broadcast and on the internet and even   on broadcast televisions in 4k the footage still  looks great and I think a big part of this is   even though you're not getting that extreme  over sampling from the 4K HQ once you get it   processed and out there I think what you're  seeing is the standard 4k still has that great   color science from Canon and you still have access  to all the incredible auto focus things that come   with the Canon R5 and the Canon R5's autofocus  is so good that it just gets your shots crystal   clear and sharp pretty much in all the 4ks used  I think all the 4ks after having shot with them   are good for basic commercial purposes if you  have to get away with it now that being said   if you're going to get a Canon R5 you should  just consider it part of the cost you're going   to need to get an Atomos or some type of external  recorder because you will not be able to record   in high frame rates or access more of that 4K HQ  without an external recorder I think the point of   failure looks like it's in the CFexpress every  time I do any kind of internal recording that's   where I get overheat rates so fast so you want to  have an external recorder just to give yourself   the option to use it more and more and the HDMI  recording to the HDMI just gives you more time   it gives you a little more peace of mind  I'll be honest one of the things that still   I have to work with with the Canon R5 is when that  overheat link starts coming on it messes with me   psychologically if you're worrying all the time  about it and it does affect the way you shoot so   having that HDMI is nice to have on the downside  sometimes if you're a run a gun shooter shooting   with a monitor and HDMI it is a little more  cumbersome so you have to factor that in but the   amount of time you get to shoot on there I would  consider it a no-brainer get an HDMI and really   if you are someone out there that is considering  the R5 I would say this if you're a photographer   buy the camera it's an incredible  camera it'll never overheat on you   if you are principally a videographer my  advice is a little more nuanced I would say   if you are agnostic to system maybe considered  the Sony a7s3 it's a way better universal solution   for video right now than the Canon R5 if you are  a Canon person what I would recommend is this   personally I would hold on to your camera if you  can for another seven to eight months and hold   out for the Canon R5c which is essentially rumored  to be coming out announced at the end of this year   coming out next year and that will give you the  ability to shoot all these great things at the   Canon R5 without the overheating limit so if you  want it primarily for video purposes at this stage   my advice to you would be it's a great camera  hold out until you get one that doesn't stress   you out with overheating and that should be either  the Canon R5c or maybe the R3 or something like   that could also be another viable option for you. Anyway guys that's what I have to say good luck   out there please leave me any comments if you  have anything to say about this video I'd love   to hear what you have to say and yeah guys go out  there keep on shooting. Yeah, I'll talk to you soon.

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Length: 16min 25sec (985 seconds)

Published: Mon Jun 14 2021