Candied Peanuts - Predicting what will be announced at WWDC 2021

it's time for mack break weekly andy's here renee's here alex is here lots to talk about but before we get into the news of the week we've got to talk about what we're going to see next week at apple's wwdc some very interesting predictions we've got the finalists for the apple design awards and some really inspiring winners of the swift student challenge all that coming up plus lots more next i'm back break weekly podcasts you love from people you trust this is twit this is macbreak weekly episode 768 recorded tuesday june 1st 2021 candid peanuts this podcast is supported by a t active armor right now our lives are on our phones and with our phones full of live streamed exercise classes midday work calls and nightly family video calls there is no room for fraud calls thankfully att makes customer security a priority helping block those pesky calls it's not complicated att active armor 24 7 proactive network security and fraud call blocking to help stop threats at no extra charge 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facts ready we don't have to have any understanding of complex issues how they relate to one of the world's most influential tech companies or the society that cowers at its impressive might we can just see where it goes we can improv we can riff uh i think we just uh did actually also how much did that eat up good 45 seconds on our way perfect we're well on our way uh also with us of course alex lindsay from zero nine zero oh nine o dot media and yeah so nice to not have to be encumbered by facts and all we need is opinion yeah so it's i'm good at that completely opinion drew got that down today renee ritchie who is of course always on the panel is gonna be a little late today he said he has some briefing by some company i don't know what that could be that's fine yeah so apparently a briefing by some company that he has a very good tight relationship is more important to him than our relationship to our listeners so i i apologize on behalf of the panels so the reason we are jesting today is because uh we are less than a week away from apple's www dc keynote and so uh it is always a kind of a news desert for uh apple the week before everybody's pausing with baited i have a bold prediction yes it's going to be video it's not going to be live yeah call me crazy so you watch did you watch the google uh i o uh i watched a little of it i scanned through it the because senator pachai decided to do it uh pretty much the same as you would do it if you had a real audience they had of course a limited socially distanced audience in the at the google campus yeah but he came on stage and he it was live he threw some pre-recorded video but not much and it really um it fell flat i thought yeah the problem is we've moved past that you know like like we just as a as a viewer as viewers i think we've moved past the live presentation and i don't think that people are going to go back because it's just it's so slow yeah it's just so slow and and you know that's slow didn't it yeah it did well almost the difference the difference there is that this was a really developer focused keynote it wasn't the zip boomba that you get during an apple uh thing where they're gonna they're gonna give you a flyby of the brand new apple store and they're going to keep on tender hooks by leading you on about the new mac os and tell you about the new phone this was a really sort of technical sort of thing and i think that the reason why it fell flat was a was nearly two hours long but also that this is sort of like the worst of both worlds you have when you have like a big big audience in front of you you can sort of build from the energy from the live audience if you've got a thousand people there uh to play in front of but they decided to have it live but to again a socially distanced crowd of you know here here we are in the middle of like a field in the campus and about maybe a dozen two dozen people on lawn chairs spread out now we're going to cut live to this other place where we've got maybe eight or nine people around and we're gonna cut live to another place where there's no audience whatsoever and every time you make one of those cuts it really whatever it is you're building up just kind of dissipates so but but i'm sure alex is right in that a lot of a lot of uh groups are now going to be thinking about well if how how much are we what are we gaining by having a couple of 2 000 hyper oxygenated like ellen show audience people in front of our ceo and what do we what do we gain by being able to just really pre-record everything and make this as tight as possible well and also i think that you know i i think live events make a lot of sense i think that you know because they're very intimate and you know vip level type things and i think that online events make a lot of sense because you can cut them you can either cut them as close video or you can interact with the audience the hybrid is kind of you know if you think about your your in-person events as like a car and the virtual events is like a boat hybrid is like a it's like an amphibious unit you know it's not it does both things just none of them well you know so so it's just it's kind of like man we're just going to make it horrible um you know and so the thing is is that whenever you're talking about apple it always comes down to like vehicular comparisons where yeah yeah the mac is a truck the ipad is a is a is a bus and i don't want to have a toaster in either of them i think that the issue is is that is that the the hybrid as soon as you put a person into the audience you've put everybody watching it kind of on the outside and and and you've also slowed it down to that pace and so i think apple's gotten really good at apple and i think frame dot io and you know their last keynote um has just really shown us that we don't really have to watch these live they're just you know you can really make it exciting and much more interesting just to make it a show just a one-hour show do you think that they want you to watch live because i think they want to get the news you know the headline breaking news out of it streaming it live still makes sense because you're syncing the whole audience everyone finds out about it at the same time everyone tweets about it at the same time so the streaming part live makes sense it's just that it doesn't necessarily make sense to present it if you want to present your story it doesn't make sense to necessarily do that live so it's interesting because in between google i o and wwdc there was also microsoft's build conference their developers conference and they chose to do what google did in the past they've used build for other purposes but this time it was really in fact i'm sorry satya nadella came on and uh basically read a synopsis of what's going off the show and left he didn't even set the stage didn't do it much at all and they certainly didn't announce any products so maybe this is maybe this is a trend that developer conferences will be more developer focused apple really though likes to use these big stages to at least announce some products we're going to do so since it's a monday and we don't have anything else on the schedule i think what we're going to do is start with the public announcement which is really a product announcement it's much more it's much less for developers and much more for uh for press and and the public but then there's the state of the union for developers that afternoon i think we might stream that as well yeah just because i think that that that's going to be the developer part and apple really is making that clear distinction and then and then um we're office hours is going to do our own thing in the evening what are you doing so so we're going to um we're pulling together some developers uh renee is going to join me and uh and we're going to pull together some uh some developers so um we've got a couple really you know hardcore mac you know developers that we're gonna or apple ios everything uh that are gonna we're just gonna take a take we're gonna do the kind of the office hours style where we bring some developers together we have a lot of people ask questions um people can sign up at uh you can either sign up for office hours or you can go to officehours.global a very simple website at the moment um and uh you can sign up there to find out more about that specifically but uh yeah we're going to cover it we want some time to think about it and we also it's just going to be all q a so the viewers can ask questions and we'll relay them and talk about them a little bit with the developers um themselves going to be at six o'clock six pm east uh pacific yeah in in um in in grand office hour style there'll be an hour five to six where it's just the the panel like a whole bunch of us just all talking about stuff i'm not necessarily that and then at six o'clock we'll switch over so six to eight um we'll talk about it and it's just gonna be an evening discussion we'll do it on monday and thursday so monday's really about what happens on monday and thursday's about what happened the rest of the week of what we saw and anything that we thought was really interesting but again we're gonna pull these developers together and um you know i feel like i want to hear from them as to you know what they think but also give possibly a lot of other developers the opportunity to ask questions and and um and so it's a much more again uh what we do in office hours which is just q a yeah so yeah um so anyway so it's it's going to be a slightly different the thing that i've ever done before um and so we're pretty excited about it um well so we're not doing it at the same time as us yeah no i i just say no i i i specifically wanted to get it out of the way you know so that you you're doing what you're doing and i hope that everybody uh who listens to our coverage will then because that's exactly the kind of thing i'd like to hear is now what developers think of well at least what they've learned so far it's a multi-day event right i mean it's not yeah we're we're restructuring all of office hours for for monday so if you want to watch us do it you can watch us live today we just watch oh that didn't work you know there's a whole bunch of like because we're rebuilding it so that it can be you know super sources and you know all the things that we would like to do so we're having fun that's really the next couple days or you can watch me fail uh in front of lots of people which is kind of fun and i'm glad you sent it up uh set up a website because that makes it a little bit easier for people to figure out what's going on this is the direction that we're going so this is not just for this this event this will be um uh you know it'll be a place where you can you can it is just for this event right now but we'll keep on adding more and people will be able to view the shows there um in the next you know relatively soon there's there's and hey i don't know who who who's that that's it was a long story we'll talk about that right now okay sorry but anyway officehours.global for more information and you can uh enter your email there that's a good idea to have a just one central place people can figure out what's going on so um how should we do this should we talk about yeah let's let's i guess renee is going to join us in a few minutes and i maybe we'll maybe we'll just do a few news stories and then when renee joins us we can get uh predictions for monday because i think there will be a lot of predictions a lot of things that we want to talk about um there are some there is some actual news uh bloomberg uh is covering apple's actually this really comes from an apple press release their uh annual uh supply chain responsibility report uh which comes out i annually i would guess they said there were there was a reduction of major violations of its code of conduct and no cases of child labor but you wouldn't think it's interesting that in this day and age a company has to put out a report yearly that says hey good news is your no child labor in the making of our products but that is good the the news item there is that apple is being absolutely diligent in trying to ferret out violations of their codes of conduct when you have so many manufacturers that it's hard behind yeah it's easy to hide behind layers of subcontractors in china to say that oh well gosh we you know the the they they're they were not supposed to use those hiring practices because we have it in our contract you're not supposed to do that they don't ask what happens when they're everybody's they move up a deadline and suddenly they factory finds another 2 500 people to work on their product uh but the they're they they wag their finger when they're when they're caught this is why apple they they really put their put their neck out there and that's why they have the a reputation that not many tech companies have in manufacturing this is the 2021 annual progress report people and environment in our supply chain and it kicks off with a quote from tim cook apple as a technology company but we never forget that the devices we make are imagined by human minds built by human hands and are meant to improve human lives and so they're paying attention to everything from you know the quality of life for the workers to the use of lithium and health and safety they talked about covet 19 uh environmental strategies building a carbon neutral supply chain and things uh like that it is a it is a it is a big operation 470 plus uh labor agencies mapped across 10 higher risk countries that's a huge number to keep track of 254 thousand 265 supplier employees they were directly engaged about their workplace experiences i don't know if that means a survey or whatever 21.5 million supplier employees trained on their rights since 2008. so apple's being very aggressive in this you know i always suspect corporate uh public relations shilling and stuff like this and i'm sure there's a certain amount of that but at least apple's doing the work and and talking about it which i think is important um 41 billion gallons of fresh water saved since 2013 900 000 plus annualized metric tons of carbon equivalent avoided in the fiscal year 2020. yeah you know and the other thing that we should point out is that although apple's not alone in making these claims about uh but we were talking about uh uh google's keynote at google i o and when they're one of their big sweeping things was hey we're making a pledge by 2013 to be 24 7 100 carbon neutral sources of electricity and the thing is when apple makes that claim they're not an ai based company they do ai but google has to basically explain how it's it's uh it's not necessarily uh altruistic it's the fact that they are burning up so much energy with all of their artificial intelligence stuff that number one they need to create their own sources of energy to make sure that they can reliably tap into what they need to tap into and as for the rest it's kind of like a it's kind of like a chemical plant saying that and we're pledging not to actually dump things directly into the water from now on i mean they're they're pledging not to screw things up as badly as they could uh which is again fair play to them but it's not this it's amazing that they make this big statement about how if only gaia is crying ladies and gentlemen and if only all companies could be like us like no again you just realize that there's so many uh you you've there if there are seven major environmental impacts you're making by investing so heavily in ai you've mitigated three of them for them but you've still got three really really big problems that are almost unaddressable and oh well it's interesting uh because when i look at the values that apple's promoting they're really american values and i think a lot of people pointed out you can't project american values on a workforce in india or china because it's there they have different values but on the other hand if if you're going to promote a liberal western agenda this is a good one to promote you know limited working hours uh prevention of involuntary labor yeah that's good okay underage labor prevent that that's a really big deal in china too so they have to have and then at the same time apple doesn't you know they kind of don't mention the fact that they make a product that is essentially unrepairable that ends up in landfill i mean there are certainly issues yeah i'm glad apple's i guess what i'm saying is i'm glad apple's doing this uh it's really important that they do and i think that the values that they're promoting uh and and the and the things they're trying to get done are very very important but at the same time they're not perfect you know no one ever will be yeah i mean well but i i'll tell you i tell you why i feel guilty because we're you know in effect we promote the notion that you got to get a new iphone every year you know we really promote that kind of feeling and i i don't know if that's the right way to treat that we we i i think that at least on this show where the four of us are always talking about who is this upgrade for it's not so much people we can't help getting people excited if they really want to buy a new iphone every year but i think most of the time our conversation is about like here's if this is a great upgrade if you've if your last iphone was two or three years old this is a good one if your ipad is long in the tooth and you're look you're waiting for something revolutionary but yeah that's that's absolutely right i think that's really important to well especially i really think that uh one of the things that that i sort of talked to myself about uh a bunch of years ago was don't make people want things yeah get people get people interested in things get people to understand like what's the significance of something even if they don't necessarily want to buy it just as they stay aware but yeah your job is not to make people want things and we should also promote repairability apple has not been good on that in fact they've been fighting against that in some respects right to repair uh promote recycling and apple does i think do a fairly good job at least makes the right noises about uh promoting recycling with liam liam their robot and things like that and just encourage people not to buy more stuff than they need i mean i think that the hard part is that you start pulling at that thread you know it and it that that whole swat the whole sweater of almost everything we buy comes apart that's really true so we just have to we have to kind of always it's the world we like i always yeah you know i i think i tweeted out a couple days ago you know i started buying honey from a guy inside of the road in bodega bay and he's just got this truck and you buy this honey and i suddenly realized i've been i've been putting cardboard on my on my uh in what was called honey it was actually liquefied good honey is so compared to yeah compared to what i was doing and and you start really realizing as you change you know if you think about food supply if you think about how that your you know gas or or anything else or how how food gets to you or how all these things happen they're incredibly wasteful and damaging and so we just have to make sure that we're clear that there's like we can we definitely need to hold apple to a higher standard we have to realize that in the context of the entire world that we we damn we damage it by by living you know and so so so the um so we just have to also understand that we have to kind of keep those things in perspective as we completely agree i think it's easy to get absolutely absolutist about the people and we need to do the best uh we can uh and and i'd ask apple to do that here's the guy you buy honey from the side of the road on yeah it's so great and what comes with the honey like he he makes these little labels that he that takes too long so i just said just write the stuff on the top because this will take a half an hour otherwise because and then he uses one of the little glue sticks and he puts it on the on the outside of it and um but it comes with a story about where the honey came from and the guy that he talked about it and how he worked on it so he's amazing so good honey but it's yeah and there's all those are three very very different honeys from different parts of the you can about the west the west coast you know and then i got to hear about the the great honey uh crisis right now that's right they're running out of honey that's right renee ritchie's going to join us he's done with his phone call we're going to take a break when we come back more news such as it is for the week and we're going to start speculating about what's coming less than a week from today but now remember don't don't start conv let's not the three of us start intentionally bringing up possible pieces of hardware just to see what makes renee stop saying anything whatsoever because that would be mean and unfair and funny and entertaining but just tug your ears grenade that's all yeah renee wouldn't even know they have some glasses i want to take a break and then we'll come back renee ritchie coming up in our projections for wwdc right after this this podcast is supported by a t active armor right now our lives are on our phones and with our phones full of live streamed exercise classes midday work calls and nightly family video calls there is no room for fraud calls thankfully at t makes customer security a priority helping block those pesky calls it's not complicated att active armor 24 7 proactive network security and fraud call blocking to help stop threats at no extra charge compatible device and service required visit att.com active armor for details [Music] following that thread of your uh honey guy david prager our good friend from tech tv said you know i used to buy a high honey from a guy who used to work sitting next to steve jobs at next some years ago and he says come to think of it based on uh pairing this all up i think they may have they may know each other they probably know each other i mean they're probably a smaller small world yeah that uh that artisanal honey uh seller world is small small small world renee ritchie joins us of course from youtube.com renee ritchie our apple expert and i have to say renee is going to be on twit on sun the sunday after wwdc so we'll get uh we'll find out what he found out today were you on a briefing with the fruit company i just i just want to point out that the one time all of you are here on time is the one time i'm playing we knew you were going to be like i was sure i was sure abby were talking about the opera or that alex didn't talk about the volume or something nobody would know i'd slide right in we've been honestly we've been kind of stalling renee we've been waiting that was a very very funny comment now answer the damn question yeah andy's been watching lie to me again uh all right i'm not gonna press you that's okay it's okay um so wwdc 10 a.m uh but this coming monday six days away we will uh see renee do you know anything i mean i think there's like super safe bets like ios 50 and ipad os 15 at tv os 15 apple watch os or watch os 8 uh the audio os's i think all that software stuff is the safest bet in technology at this point yeah yeah we know that because that's what they do at wwdc we don't care craig's got to be superman we've got it he's got to do a superman stand once a year we don't care we care about hardware and you know again i have mixed feelings about this i mentioned it when it happened a big apple supplier quanta was hit by ransomware the ransomware guys as they often do instead of merely encrypting data also uh stole data from quanta and started to release it online it suddenly stopped which makes me think either apple or quant said yeah maybe uh maybe we'll give you some money instead of letting seeing you know the space either they sent the money or they sent the former operators something else but the two things that were released were uh schematics for a 16 inch and a 14 inch macbook pro which makes sense quantum mac is known to make laptops for a lot of companies including apple uh it seems reasonable i mean it seems like a reasonable thing to do yeah new design uh featuring a magsafe connector i think yes you'll be happy about that alex lindsey so excited actually that's very credible because we've seen now the mag safe on the imac on the new imacs so i would bet that that that design feature will be uh go forward throughout the line um a car i i found this a little harder to believe a sd card reader that's going to do it they're going to do it and it's going to be nerd fan service it's going to be because so many people on twitter complained about the lack of hdmi and sd cards and they feel like they've got to make it up to us and now the minute it happens they're going to be a bunch of nerds complaining about the lack of of four ports anymore like why do i have to have a static hdmi porter and so why are you choosing my ports for me it's it's going to be a blood pressure i andy and andy and i would like to know when we're getting our ethernet ethernet back we want our ethernet along with the headphone jack it's an extra eighty dollars that's still there that's still there yeah no i i i've seen the schematics that everyone else has seen or at least the the cnc for the for the turnarounds for that device and it really does look like a sometimes the best way to go forward is to go back i i've uh in 2 25 2016 i thought that the macbook pro was a real gamble they were with the i with the first imac apple took a hell of a gamble that this is the this is the future of computing people are going to be complaining right now but this is exactly where everybody's going to be they're going to be right in step with us a year year and a half from now i feel as though they took the exact same sort of gamble in 2016 and they lost uh and i feel as though the the the schematics that we had been seeing a couple weeks ago in that league kind of underscored that okay i guess that we do need if if you are if you're using this as if we're really calling this a macbook pro there are things that a traveling professional really really wants to have and that's not a bag full of dongles and the best the best way we can take advantage of that is by maybe figuring out how to put an sd card reader in there and maybe figuring out how to put an hdmi port in there uh they wouldn't be they wouldn't be out of step with the rest of the notebook industry the high end notebook industry by not having a an ethernet port in there but other things there are very few there are very few uh reasons that apple can come up with i i'm i'm still pretty frosty about uh no headphone jack on my uh my uh ipad pro god it makes me mad actually i bought a pair of airpod pro max headphones just because i got the new yeah i figured i spent so much money on the new ipad pro and some more yeah it's a lost cost fallacy sun cost fallacy sorry yeah it's a fallacy but i did it so uh uh yeah because i can i ask you also because i thought after we talked about it so extensively i should probably try spatial audio um as well here's my question though about the ports because you know like i've never had a dongle free life i went from firewire 400 to 800 to vga to mini display to dual link display to thunderbolt 2 to displayport mini displayport thunderbolt 3. i've just had my entire life has been dongles and i know i'm going to have to use dongles with this computer because i'm not using sd cards anymore i'm using cf express cards and i feel like this this caters to the the fat middle of the segment where you have like a lot of prosumers who still use i'm not even sure like do they use cameras anymore do they just use their iphones are they gonna hdmi out are they gonna be upset in two years that there's a new standard and they have to use a dongle and hdmi and sd don't take dongles so they only have like two or three lightning ports now instead of the four they used to have or plugging in on both sides instead of being stuck on one magsafe i have to admit that i'm the magsafe thing is really important because well here's the funny thing is it's not as important to me anymore because i don't travel all the time in fact i travel very little so now i don't really care nearly as much the reason that i cared about it was because my computer was often on my lap in an airport and i wanted to make sure that if it didn't get bent and so i just constantly worried about it at this point i have to admit that i'd rather have the usbc i'd rather have the thunderbolt than the hdmi you know because because i'd rather no no because i'd rather have to make sure that i get my ports now i would i still would like to have a mag safe it's just that my i have to admit now my portable like what i take outside is my ipad you know it's not my it's into my laptop in fact you know my laptops i have an imac here in front of me um and i have my ipad and my laptops just kind of get moved around every once in a while and i don't use them nearly as much you know as i used to and so because my ipad is really filling in most of what i was doing on my laptop and so and again it's because i don't travel as much anymore so there'll be other people that need that but it's it's a different lifestyle but but i think that i am thinking if i lose one of the usbc ports to hdmi i will go i wish i had my usb or not usbc but thunderbolt um you know the thunderbolts are are valuable to me now you know and what i do is i split them out when i go out to h when i go to hdmi i have an hdmi and i have a usb and i have a usbc you know like a usb a usbc in any adapter that i i use in there so it's i'm splitting it out to a bunch of things every time i connect it to the computer except for power yeah but the conventional user is likely especially if they're spending a thousand fifty hundred dollars on a laptop that's also going to be like their main axe for everything and these are the people that this is every conference room has an hdmi connector in it right now if i when i give when i moderate panels and do interviews like at comic cons the one thing i can count on on that podium is an hdmi connector so uh hdmi is a really really safe point what i find you can bring i mean to be fair you can bring an adapter with you well in most in most conference rooms that i go into now like you could bring whatever you want you know but i have an adapter i mean i care i'm saying i'm saying that at what point do you does the manufacturer should say that hey look i got your back here i want that's an inconvenience this is something you're very very likely to want to use so we decided to actually put that in there we don't have a we just it's uh i don't know called the 80 rule i think sometimes i think of it as the take a look at what all the best-selling uh laptop lines uh in the windows world are like rule because those these are the laptops that are competing with dozens and dozens of other models when you see that when you see the table stakes for windows laptop is hdmi uh multiple uh at least one usb 3 uh usb a type port a couple of the features like that then you sort of get the idea that this is what this is what the majority of people are finding to be compelling reasons to buy model a instead of model b and your competitors model instead of your own there's a price to pay for that pc the laptops that have all that stuff are thick and clunky in order to have all those ports on i mean that's the price well not so much i mean there's when you talk me talk about thick and clunky you often talk about like something along the lines of uh a macbook air only instead of being razor thin at the leading edge it's actually the same the same size this is this is why i feel as though we kind of have to give up uh have apple ever making a laptop that has an ethernet port built into it because apple is not interested in making a chassis that's that thick thick enough to to accept that kind of that kind of a connector however again on the pc side on the pc side you can buy ones that are that thick and they're not necessarily for for a lot of people the idea of being able to simply plug straight in not have to go through an immediate step of dumping out a bag full of dongles and picking up the one that's that's correct for you for a lot of people that's that's a good investment here's the hp spec ethernet he's the hp spectre x 360 which is kind of like a macbook it's got one type c on that side one two type c's on this because they have a little beveled uh angle on there which is awful that's for the charger but this is a very pretty thin and light laptop this is very typical and it's you know similar to a macbook air and so the lg gram right the lg gram i think is does the gram have all have an hdmi port i think and i think the screen at this point i think what what i'm interested is is the future of the laptop at all you know i think that the the the issue is is that again when i just look at my own behavior i take my ipad out now and if ipads could run an m1 ipad not run mac os but could open mac programs i'd probably never take my laptop out of the house again like literally we're that close to if i just could open up the handful of mac apps that i need and i could get video in to the usbc or whatever actually the grant does have an hdmi port on it it is thin and light as that is so your your your point is well made there's the hdmi port it's got actually a pretty good complement it's amazing there's not many hdmi or mini ethernet like i have many hdmi on some of my cameras ethernet seems to have disappeared i think that's because it's so so big you can't make that so i'm wondering why did they never make mini ethernet is it because everyone in enterprise would murder them lenovo makes a mini ethernet you have to buy a dedicated lenovo mini ethernet adapter well that's that's that's different on a lot well on a lot of lenovo laptops you can get well but i have i have a lenovo x1 that has an ethernet port built in i think but also if you want that that that goes in through the usb bus uh however if you want one that goes in directly into uh directly i don't think it does i think it has that mini ethernet on it no no i i'm also another reason behind that was that for reasons that i'd have to look it up again to to remember it uh apparently there are some security concerns at some corporations about having a next to having a don having even an internal usb bus type controller that could be subject to tampering yeah um lenovo which is probably the last company to really put a lot of ports on their uh stuff but they haven't had dna yeah yeah and that but i think you're right see secure is all it's you know it's a business device i carry this dongle with me it's got uh i wish it were thunder i don't think it's sir this thunderbolt a plugable it's got ethernet it's got hdmi it's got a mini full it's a dangle dongle even has power in through that little you know type c but then because it doesn't have a headphone port i also have to carry this this is for the ipad obviously not the laptop that's a that's a dac so that i can listen to music yeah so it also but also though the one that i have i the one that i have cost about 50 60 because it has basically all the ports that i would basically need right and think about that as a hidden cost of the device i i'm not saying necessarily that apple is wrong for not doing this and damn them for doing this uh on to their absolute credit they they they say uh they they make people like me happy and they make people like alex happy by saying we are not instead of do going the uh the windows laptop route by saying that okay well we've got we're going to give you two usb 3 type a's one uh usb c but it's slope low speed one of them and we put a little ring around it so you make sure no what it is that's actually a thunderbolt capable and displayport they're saying no what apple's saying we will give you four top line uh pipelines for for accessories and you can do with them what they what you wish which is which is a nice thing i'm this the the difference is that again with with as usual with windows you can choose to have the the hardware that you want whereas with apple you are stuck with whatever decisions that they make that's because there's a thousand windows manufacturers there's only one right no exactly that's what i'm saying that's that's why it hurts when they when they decide to say you know what we're going to have a brand new keyboard with 0.52 millimeters of travel and all across the entire laptop line you have no choice you're welcome okay great you've just screwed everybody we don't have a choice anymore if you want a mac a portable mac comes with an absolute crap garbage keyboard so this is the sort of stuff that you you you give up you you get you get i think you get better value than what a lot of people claim that you do with an apple product because they don't make garbage however that does mean that if this is not a this is not a burger king hamburger you can't get it your way yeah um i guess i guess he's only slightly less angry than andy about the keyboard slightly i guess the thing that is going to be the top line though on here is there's yet to be a proper reckoning i try this i swear there will be a reckoning properly the top line sorry he tasks me and i shall have him the top line of this will be a new uh possibly a new apple silicon chip i mean that's if they're going to release new laptops then it stands to reason they're not going to be another m1 based but it's 16 inches and 14 inches this will be something something new yes is it going to be x is that where they're going to call it or m2 what are they going to call it not that it matters you're getting really confused about it because like traditionally apple uses the number to represent the silicon generation so you get like a12 a13 a14 and they released the a12z after the a13 just because they needed something wider instead of higher for the ipad pro so if they followed a pattern and apple does until they doesn't so there's always a chance they're going to change their minds but the m1 was the base for the this generation the same way the a14 was those are the same 11th generation apple silicon and then the the m1 is like an a14x and the m1x would be extra extra cores extra extra memory that sort of thing so the interesting thing for me is the rebalancing because they have four uh efficiency and four performance cores in m1 and the rumor is they'll have two efficiency and eight performance cores in the m1x along with an option for 16 or 32 graphics cores and that's a lot more power draw than we had in the m1 versions so seeing how they balance that out with active cooling systems and batteries i think will be interesting but i don't think we'll see m2 until we get the a15 and then that'll be low power and that'll go into the next generation macbook air and you know computers like that ultra low power computers so if uh people who i guess anybody who uses the 16-inch today with uh perhaps as much as an i9 in it this is going to be the replacement for that this is the the power tool for the pro the highest so much less heat highest speed power drop no that's not it although if it looks like this uh then i think uh i think people would be stuck stunned i think if you if you had a pro i mean i i keep on wanting apple to really do a pro pro you know like a real pro you know it's we're not worried about it being thin we're gonna give you a bunch of connectors we're gonna give you a ton of power and uh and it's you know we're not it's just all about performance so far we still get kind of in this in between of well we have to make it thin and yeah you know it's not really a beefy laptop yeah you know that that you know so we'll see so um redesigned chassis it looked like obviously you have to put those hdmi ports somewhere uh new processor here's a question um not by the way now that i have the i the new ipad with the mini led screen i i have to say i i barely noticed i mean you'd have to put it side by side with the old one and really be looking you have to be in hdr mode it's a it's a separate mode basically oh okay so otherwise it looks the same and when is it in hdr 600 when i'm watching hdr video yeah so it's 600 nits almost all the time and then if it plays anything that's dolby vision or hdr any of that kind of console i'm not talking just about brightness i'm also talking about quality right i mean let's face it though that's the the old screens are fine that's the quality thing with this this the only boost it's really doing is to be able to show you the contrast ratio and peak brightness color gamut's the same and all that stuff is the same yeah p3 okay so uh then does it matter if there's a mini led display in these new laptops it does it's yeah you'll get the higher contrast ratio and for people like you know alex and me and increasingly andy because we're totally subverting him into this whole business uh and probably you too like if you want to start mastering an hdr if youtube starts making really good hdr implementations no no you know alex is going to broadcast macbreak in 16k hdr you know or at some point to be specific we're targeting this goes to hdr by september really wow um so so hdr uh but can they and will they be able to supply the uh many led screens for this especially 16 inches big yield issues right yeah yeah and some are saying it's pushed off and also are they going to change the refresh rate because right now you have to manually toggle between 48 and 60 hertz for 24 frames per second or or 30 frames per second video editing which is nice but it sure would be nicer if it did what the ipad pro does and that's have adaptive refresh rate that automatically uh goes from 120 to 24 hertz right you know as needed right i could be really surprised by the end of the year i'd be really surprised if apple's selling anything under 120. but that isn't capable of 120 frames per second will will it do this uh true motion thing where it scales up and down or will it just stay awake it might with existing content but i think that more it's setting the stage to deliver content at 120 frames a second yeah you know so it's it's gonna i mean the the that what we think of is oh it looks like soap opera or whatever it's because it's building frames in between and of course that's gonna look soft and weird and it's motion blurry but when you look at 120 frame playing back it's at on a display that can do it it's it's pretty nifty yeah yeah so a better display nice uh new chassis with extra ports an m1x or some or the like uh how much ram will you be able to go up to 32 64. 32 or 64. yeah i'm curious if apple's going to keep the differentiation they have now where the 14 inch goes to 32 and we'll have 16 cores 32 gigabytes of ram top level and four terabytes and then the 16 inch will have 32 cores 64 gigabytes of ram and eight terabytes or if they'll let us know thousand dollars yeah that's what the intel model comes like the intel models are staggered the bigger one has the higher spec potential and that feels artificial like an intel was famous i think with intel you do it because of cooling issues you want a bigger chassis so you have more chance to cool that thing off that's the thing so i would stick the screwdriver in and monkey with the chip so they could break a few things and charge you you know charge you more for the ones that weren't broken so um i guess i mean this is all purely speculative unless unless apple's told anybody anything i guess knows so i'm just you know what i'm really lining up is what we should be looking for on monday you know what what what the bingo card looks like with the checkbox much expectational debt we can build up yeah yeah how disappointed we can make people after they don't put in 32.64 they're going to mint bitcoin with no power draw it's going to be amazing yeah i'd love to uh the things i'm sort of hanging my my expectations on are really expectations for ipad os that this is there's every single time apple comes out with a device that seems curiously and suspiciously overpowered for the tasks that people demand of it i start looking ahead to okay what is apple doing next year that is going to require this kind of horsepower and consistently all the reviews of the ipad so ipad pro so far and i agree with much if not but not necessarily all of them is that once you once apple makes ipad os a much more multitasking multi-operation friendly operating system once they fix a few pain points that have been persistent for years and years oh boy is this going to be is this going to absolutely totally justify the thousand dollar 1300 expense of what you put into it and this is it's it would be a shame if if uh if apple put if apple did what they've done with the with the ipad given it thunderbolt given it uh this this m1 processor that opens up so many possibilities and all they did was okay so if i'm using procreate filters now they run about 25 faster as they did before and it's easier to use a thunderbolt style dock and have high speed connection to a monitor and stuff like that it would be a shame if all it was was an ipad but more so i i one of the reasons why i bought i i bought one is because i really do feel as though this is apple is going to make a big big leap forward sometime in the next year and that's why that's why i'm hoping we get to see a big big road map sort of sense of announcements with the next version of ipad os yeah there are some naysayers though there are some naysayers saying that apple just put the m1 in because it was cheaper than spinning and taping up a separate 8 a 14 x chip that wouldn't have all the same stuff in it but would have just what it needed and this was just a cost saving measure so i don't i'm not in that camp i just wanted for the case of people to get their hopes up there is a school of thought that it was just cheaper than making a separate a14x and we're going to just keep ipad ossing as usual yeah yeah that would even even in its current state even in its current state i find myself using it more than again as i said before yeah i don't know what it is has changed because it's snappy it's just like it's maybe that's it it's just fast i feel like you're on a little keyboard and i think there's something about the keyboard like i finally went i didn't get the i didn't get the last generation so i skipped a whole generation um of ipad and so it it's my old one which is now a controller for my switcher um is uh still great it's a great great ipad the one thing about the ipads is they last forever like my kids are using i got the original 12.9 that came out and they're still they still use it every day you know and so um and so the but the new one i think when i got the new what really shifted for me immediately was that new keyboard because i i just had the folio before i was like okay this is like a computer [Music] now i'm i feel like i'm there there's you know i wish that the problem i really have is that a lot of the i the apple the mac os apps i don't feel translate very well to touch you know so like omnigraffle um even keynote i don't really like on i don't like editing them on the ipad right so i'm hoping that i get something that's more now that now that i could theoretically have a mouse or a trackpad and i could type i just want i just want my my mouse back because i can't i just can't do things at a really fine level at those in on with my finger i should have brought mine with me because i bought instead of using the magic keyboard i bought the uh logitech combo touch oh how do you like it i like it and people have told me oh the track pads aren't as good and i think the keyboard's better and i think the trackpad is just as good in fact it's very usable i like the fabric cover it's a full case um i like it a lot actually um the only problem with the kickstand is you can't lie in bed and use the kickstand very well keyboard very well the magic keyboard works better in bed yeah it's like the surface especially in the levitation mode when you when you just click on it and just level it it's pretty awesome you're like wow it really is magic yeah so i'm going back and forth but i think i actually like the the combo touch from logitech it's a hundred bucks less which i also like after spending that much money on an ipad i'm getting cheap you shouldn't have a robot arm next to your bed that holds your ipad at the end no times for you lisa will hold it sometimes but not for very long i always thought for sure that you'd have robots just all over and then she's bad and then i pay for it later uh so so no i really like it though i have to say um and and i don't i i can't i can't quantify it i didn't even want to mention it till you said the same thing alex i feel like the last one i didn't feel like i could really replace a laptop with this maybe it's because i spent so much on it but this one i feel like i can for some reason and and i do think that when i when i'm recommending things to people about the about the ipad i really try hard to not not to use the shorthand of using it as a laptop because you really can't because a laptop it could be used like a laptop and it's so much better at being a laptop than the ipad is this is this is a device with more flexibility that can be used in different situations particularly mobile ones and the to to uh to alex's point earlier i think the the only thing that's kind of like lower case f frustrating me with it is that uh for instance the the the web browser we you get a dumbed down mobile web browser even even the safari is really nice chrome is really nice the brave duckduckgo they're all really really nice but boy this has the horsepower to run a full desktop scale browser so that my experience in safari on my desktop mac my experience in chrome on my desktop mac can and should be a one-to-one experience feature for feature user interface element for user interface element on this really really wonderful ipad with this with its big screen and the only frustration points i'm having are where areas where wow if this were chrome or if this were safari on my desktop this would be like a one-click operation or a one-tap operation as it is i'm gonna have to do like a share to another app then do another tap in order to make sure that this gets filed where i want it to be filed and then even so i'm probably going to have to go back on my desktop and manage this later and given how core to the daily experience a web browser is i think it's about time that apple allowed a real desktop power browser to uh to uh to arrive on large screen ipads yeah um anything all right so there's the there's the laptops 14 and 16. i think given the leak admittedly creepy by the ransomware gang are evil um i think that that's ransomware in the epic suit that's where all the news it's all really big news 2021 is coming um mark german said this it was coming very soon this summer and then john prosser said that he expects hardware at wwdc so there are a lot of signs yeah yeah yeah it seems like do we think do we think an imac pro given that it was disconnected so now that's the question i you know i think before the imac pro i'm thinking an upgraded mac mini so they released last year new laptops and a new mac mini but they were both kind of consumer level and i'm starting to see some noise about new pro level mac mini and new pro level laptops and that would kind of make sense and then what do you think it feels like they all kind of go together like a new an imac pro macbook pro and mini pro they just released these 24 inch imacs though i don't know yeah but those but they're not i mean they're clearly not broken they're pushed yeah the rumors and i think john prosser put out pictures he said he's seen it and he put out renders of what it looks like and it looks good except people are complaining the ports are too close together but that could just be a hopefully that's just a rendering glitch but it was a a glass or or some kind of plastic top on a much thinner chassis and he said that might be so they can have alternate colors but that sounds weird on a pro machine and then that the m1 mac imac was pushed back a bit because it took him longer than anticipated to get the m1 mini uh sorry imax done so that's coming maybe this fall so processor thinks a mini is coming right yes it's hard to follow the reviews hard to tell rumors it's hard to tell whether that's wwdc or com what does coming mean yeah yeah is it doesn't doesn't all this imply a successor to the m1 processor or are they talking about taking the m1 profile and right all right i i feel as though the m1 yeah because you're gonna have to have more data buses you're gonna have to have more channels you're gonna have to have more more ram addressability once you get to the next level i think that apple has very very nicely filled out that first generation of ordinary typical users i think that i think that you have the the macbook air and you have the the imac and then the rest of the stuff that's out right now are for people who couldn't wait or didn't want to wait uh for like the really really good like uh the next generation cpus to hit the the new macbook pro and the new mac mini and the new pro uh imac yeah just a little bit do you believe the the reading of the tea leaves from appletrek.com they're looking at the invitation uh to the wwdc the new uh image which came off came out a couple of weeks ago hidden in the reflection of one character's eyes are three emoji characters referenced by their unicode names but are they what yeah what are the characters let's just eat that's just eat sleep code uh-huh fork and knife eat sleep fork and knife sleeping zzz and the macbook emoji uh so that's the sleep code okay that's like a wwc tagline yeah actually that's a very clever uh easter egg come to think of it so you don't you don't think that that means there'll be there'll be less confusion if they use the person coding because there's two emojis there's one of just the macbook one of the person yeah okay maybe they chose it on purpose it's a conspiracy leo what about this guy what about the what about the shadowy figure in the post credits sequence of the last keynote processor does in response to the apple track article say i can confirm macbook pro is coming but coming when that's not that doesn't say anything yeah i can confirm a mac pro is coming obviously yes it will become another but another question is how how are how are constraints of components gonna affect uh whatever apple intends to do for the receiver intel has already made an announcements or excuse me or at least i don't know if you'd call it a a prophetic announcement but they're saying that hey we expect chip shortages to last into 2022. yeah i think that that's what makes this unpredictable they addressed it in the call saying that the leading edge nodes are fine apples bought so much five nanometer that there shouldn't be any issue they might just have to switch priorities a little bit like you know like the iphone comes out first the other thing comes out a month later just because you know the iphone always comes first but it's the trailing edge that gets hurt and that's things like 99 nanometers where they're still doing some controllers you know some third party uh chipsets that get thrown in the mix that aren't apple proprietary yeah i mean what we're hearing from the whole supply chain is just that it's just chaos you know and we keep on hearing it from different different partners that you know they're getting you know oh right it was two weeks now it's six months or nine months or yeah you know and and it's just going to be a really hard summer and fall for a lot of and again i don't know if it'll be apple's core products but a lot of the uh you know ancillary products and accessories could could really be uh hindered by by that process uh they sell more premium macs than samsung sells premium phones so they they get their orders filled right yes apple apple yeah apple yeah apple doesn't has kind of priority everywhere so they i don't think that their corp like what they're actually selling us is going to be a problem it's all the little things that connect to it that are going to be more people that's the thing i mean well they're definitely going to get the m1s but or m1xes but there are other chips in there and the other other companies providing them that may be in short supply to take a look at if you were not in the first hour or two of buying uh buying an ipad pro you were delayed until june and now new orders are what in july a little bit later than that right yeah right yeah and and you know the hard part is that apple affects a lot of these things like i one manufacturer said because the way apple buys stuff that there was a point where some of these chips they had 90 of the world's supply you know and you know and it doesn't look like that on on the surface but they're buying them from so many different manufacturers uh in so many different suppliers that it it kind of quietly sucks up all of it and so they i had we we had a partner that one chip one little chip and they couldn't release the product for a year yeah because because the apple had all of them yeah you know because it happened to be they happened to share that one little like surface mount chip like tiny little speck with with apple you know were they canceled they thought their orders would plunge during the pandemic and they didn't and then they had to get back back the line when they reordered any surprises on monday anything that we uh they've been rumored revised airpod pros i'm pretty excited about the new home pod don't say it if you don't mean it that's not coming that's not coming did you see what lebron james was wearing leo yeah i tried to say i'm trying to keep a straight face it was very well done i it fooled me for about a millisecond i made everybody blink for a little bit lebron james on his instagram what's what's in his ears there it's uh what is that uh those it turns out are the new unreleased beats studio buds which have been widely removed rumored that is by the way you look like those horrific pictures i'm just i'm i'm looking at his teeth more than i'm looking as well as his ears but it looks like he's got chewing gum in his ears i don't know what's going on with the mouth he's angry i don't want to mess with the guy um if that is really what they look like that's like it looks like a piece of gum stuck in your ear the problem is that i think he's rocking it he's rocking it okay good i'm afraid that every time every time apple releases something we go that looks stupid and before you know it everybody's like that's the end thing you know like it always it i don't know how they do it but you always you're just like oh that the yeah comes out of your ears stupid human brain we mocked the white elastic the white wires and it turned out to be a trademark we mocked the little dripping icicle coming out of your ear turns out yeah everybody likes that and it looks weird without them we are all survivors of the acid watch wash jeans trend here's king james we cannot speak of such of such things that people not wanting to look silly for fashion there's king james pretending that he doesn't know that his instagram social media guru is taking his picture uh with those new earbuds in his ear um so there it is ooh that's a scary picture they announced the la in 2017 when they announced everything it was 2016 when they announced the aeropods they announced the beats versions at the same time so maybe new airpods maybe new beats pods call them pods monday right have you have you what do we think about the idea of uh airpods max mini or airpods max airpods max so small you won't know you're wearing them maximum stop working on them but they're just like like imagine that i've i've been i've been hearing ideas about having a sort of a 550 version of overhead over-the-ear headphones that they make a version that's more competitive with sony's uh headphones well that would make sense since i just bought them i think they probably should remove it yeah that's the sign right yeah the oh buys them in the neighborhood that would make sense i i fought that two things i know you know i bought them this week their mine arrived this week too same thing something new comes out that's gonna i'm gonna be bummed because it and it was your fault because it was that whole spatial audio conversation i thought and then again ipad pro with no headphone jack i said well yeah you're my masters whatever what is that i will what is that audience leo you're here but i'm still i'm still stuck with the the ipad or the ipod max mini i i think that's a great it's it's over it's over the ear it's in the ear it's all around the ear it's just it's just like it's like you're feeling maybe i like it i like it i i think that and now i want one i was like yeah you've just created a need i buy whatever you tell me to buy so um that's interesting like no headband just maybe it's it's attached to your head by suction imagine imagine the airpods max but not but not but like not apple silly imagine that you basically say by the way it's we can't we can't make them so that you that so that you can only carry them like a little purse oh and by the way we can't make them out of such metal that that's tiring to exactly what if we made it so that the so that the normals could actually afford one i think i think you go the airpod max max max max it's just a helmet it's a helmet with ar it's got like ar and it's just there it's like it's just you're just totally it's got like it's also their ar vr helmet they finally fix the the idea of you know how do you how do you get those displays in a tiny tiny spectacle sort of thing yeah well we'll find out on monday leather suit that makes it uh which picture there's a prosper put up a picture of what the new mac mini pro looks like and it's i really nice i'm really interested in the idea of a mac mini pro i don't know why yeah this is the one that's been pulling up that's the sweet spot for me plexiglas uh top on it yeah i i like that idea um and of course it's got the something the charm says leon they don't call it the mag safe it's just the magnetic power adapter okay fine i'm calling it magsafe fine and i'm unfashionably max i do love it i can't put my floppies on top of it fine boy this is just dumb design fine it's got four thunderbolt 4 or maybe even usb 4 ports it's got two usb a ports it's got ethernet it's got hdmi it's got a plexiglass top this is a render so it's made up it's completely invented well he says he gets the pictures he doesn't want to get the person in trouble if there's anything identifying in the picture so he gets them re-rendered so that they're clean it's nice and small small i hope that if if it's a mac mini i still hope that they're going to have some measure of expandability inside although the m1 looks like the apple compressor yeah it looks like it's one little motherboard with everything on it yeah mm-hmm um is there a market for the mac mini what it doesn't seem like man where you're buying i know you buy them you're the market you're so great i am the market how many more can we buy we own like i don't know i think we have i think we had there was a discussion whether we had 14 or 16 of them right now but but the um you know they're just this incredible little like glue and we use them for all kinds of stuff you know and so that's what's great about it i'm going to go with a six 14-inch macbook pro and i'm going to go with the mac mini pro uh i would still like to see them do a mini mac pro [Music] yes because we're going to run out of mini and matt have a little cheese grater on my desk i might even hold out for the little cheese grater um but uh i think those three make sense maybe an update for airpods what do you guys think is that uh yeah it's time for new it's time for an update for your pods yeah everybody there that's it's still like a hot hot seller there's still it's the 550 headphones are aspirational at best less than 200 you're actually competing on a level on a playing field where apple can really really succeed because you're saying well for the for about 18 more than these okay but not great headphones i can get not only can i have superior engineering but i can also have that very important like eight millimeters of stick out with a little chrome at the end of it makes people know that i've been to the apple store why the plexi glass on the top is that just design he said it could be colors but it doesn't make sense to me to be colors on a pro like i would imagine colors would be the consumer version right like i'm kind of wondering whether they're perfectly if they're making it into oh they're making it integrate with a if they're making it integrate with uh with the imac meaning that the same office that would have colorful imax would also have colorful mac minis but that would that would suggest that it's not going to be the super powerful machine i mean the imac has a the mac mini has a great great role to play because how much money does that panel cost in an imac and for people who look i've already got displays they're very very nice them i don't even want one display yeah if it has an hdmi port i have the display that 55-inch oled display i would love to be able to switch back and forth between a mac and a linux box some people i like to be able to upgrade for 800 instead of operating for thirteen hundred dollars fourteen hundred dollars yeah i would like to point out that that that every year the mac mini looks more and more like the origin the first gen apple tv it does it's flatter and flatter and flatter it's almost the same height now it's like what are we gonna do ah don't we have a design somewhere in the back oh yeah yeah we'll use this let's change the connectors on the back and we'll be done all right let's take a break uh that's our that's our kind of predictions unless anybody has anything else to say about monday uh it'll i'll add is that we've we've had such we've had wwc with no new hardware recently like 2018 and we've had like one or two pieces like 2019. in 2017 we had all the hardware so there's no possible to really predict there's no trend for this uh and of course this is this year is going to be a completely break from tradition because we we all have we have to re release everything with apple silicon apple has to also consider internally how many intel versions of this do we have because of course the minute they come out with a mac mini power mac mini with apple silicon nobody's going to buy the intel version so those intel's they got to clear those out um there'll be a few cranky studio people who are not going to rev a board oh no i don't buy all of them yeah if your tool doesn't work uh on m1 yeah you know you're going to keep them in the freezer yeah it means pro tools pro tools is still running on mojave yeah yeah so there's a lot of pro tools users who would not consider an upgrade but that's why the mac pro is the last to get upgraded right yeah probably the only other thing is that remember that apple's coming coming out of the epic trial they're also coming into even more of a sticky mess regarding how they run the app store with other agencies and other uh actual actual governments as opposed to civil lawsuits if apple had been planning to make some changes to a because hey let's let's just let's just do the first big house cleaning we've done for a long long time uh on app store policies and rules and or let's make some let's take a look at where we're vulnerable to future problems with regular regulators and let's head those off because it is a developer conference they could be maybe they could be talking about big changes of the app store i completely agree with you this is when you're going to announce that nothing along the lines of nothing along the lines of allowing like extra uh side loading apps or no no app stores nothing like that but but just little little modifications let's say again this made sense like five years ago it's okay it doesn't make sense for us right now so we're making this change we're going to make this easier we're going to i the biggest change to the app store since we launched it i don't know what it is app store yeah that's what i predict yeah but it's got to be something that like the million dollar cap which will make indie developers super happy exactly really really stick it to epic and spotify exactly exactly yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be great to see who gets featured this is going to be like because it's it's it's like that it's like at these big like estates in like 1910s the robert baron's who gets to sit like next to carnegie who gets to see who gets to sit like seats down who has apple announces the return of fortnight to the app store on their bingo card anybody anybody well and i think one of the things that i think some people are looking at is is i mean obviously highlighting unreal is out so will apple go down the unity route or will they go down the ar that will be your own watch yeah so it's that will be in the state of the the developer state of the union monday you know i don't know i mean they this is where we usually see the most they are is you know because that's what you're kind of showing the the developers of where this is going and so we're the question really is is are they going to you know have another external partner being unity or are they going to show more of their own tools where you know we had ar you know uh creator and so on and so forth and so so it'll be interesting to see which which direction that they go to show that they won't be showing you e5 no no it's really impressive it's really cool i know i know i know i know like a night it's really cool does unity have anything comparable to announce unity has a lot of great things it's just it's just a different it's a different uh it it does a lot of you know uh it's a little bit more it's a little easier to develop on i i would say and uh but right now i'm in the middle of a big you uh unreal production pretty impressed by ue5 yeah all right so is lucasfilm oh really are they using it for the mandalorian they did they did they don't use it anymore oh yes i think they use it for previz or something but they don't they don't use it for um the uh their their custom rig is now custom software too actually it makes a lot of sense to use that for previous doesn't it you can make it really look good oh yeah yeah oh that's pretty visible i'm just i'm sorry but i have to i have to just watch of course a little bit of stone fire a little bit of this because they this came out this week yeah the new uef5 demo yeah yeah there's so many tools you know inside of there and i moved from my bedroom tv like at 1 am to the living room tv because i was getting so engrossed by this demo it's like they can't possibly look as good as that please it's it's pretty it's pretty life-like isn't it i mean that's what's amazing massive well and you think about like you go back and realize that this is in real time you know and and that's the thing that starts to get really exciting is that you know think about um how long it took to render frames from toy story or even toy story two or three you know a while back uh you know pixar keeps on pushing the outer envelope but i mean being able to do all of the stuff in in in real time just from a storytelling perspective i mean the game stuff is important but just from a being able to animate stuff and and put it together and be able to render that out i think we're going to see a whole new set of cartoons and storytelling it's all done and unreal and there's already people that have been doing it that's been on the outer edge but now it's about to become a thing got to get me a new gaming pc oh wait i just got one well amd did have announcements yesterday leo i know four times retail four times retail do i hear six times retail the 3080 ti is now out for amir what is it one thousand eighty dollars um what else they have those they're doing their version of a system on a chip for uh for much better graphics performance on my tops which i love oh nice yeah i 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the room wait a minute what if i could connect valheim to the bedding robot robot did there used to be like an audio like an audio piece like home theater auto gear called the butt kicker yes yes these these things you put underneath like the hosts in your in your sofa so it actually just like shake the sofa boom yeah we i you know i know the butt kicker because didn't we used to at our booth at ces in the south hall was always across from the butt kicker boots and we'd always know when they were doing the demos of the of the butt kicking because uh the whole place would start to shake um speaking of the new ipad and i i this is kind of i didn't know anything about this but thanks to the folks at halide uh they have discovered a hidden power in the new ipad pro cameras there's a smart yeah there are you know it's good it's really good and i'm i was a little disappointed when last week i was informed that the camera is not as good as the uh iphone 12 pro max camera sorry sorry but this new selfie thing is interesting so what is new what is it that we they discovered in this in the selfie selfie camera so it's sebastian dewitt uh who's really smart and ben sandovsky who's both geniuses and andy can probably explain it way better than me but the focal for some reason and i'm not sure why the focal distance is so much shorter than on the iphone huh so you can get much closer so you can really uh and when you do it's ultra it's ultra wide right so i think it's just the wide angle i think the ultimate um they say the ipad basically comes with a microscope because you can get uh so close yeah uh you can focus closer on the front that's the front-facing camera not the selfie camera look at this that's really amazing hmm yeah the they're saying the front-facing ultra wide has more more megapixels in the than the normal one so uh it's basically an ultra ultra wide camera possibly so that they're using because for that feature where uh ai can basically follow you and track you uh because they need more more amplitude and more stuff so basically they're saying that in the next versions of halide that they're going to find they found a way to actually tap into that so that you can go to that ultra wide by selection not just simply uh as a side effect of being able to use being use a zoom call where it follow the eyes follow you around the room well the other problem of course is because of the lidar the focusing is very fast but when you're doing a macro shot you may want it you may not want to be doing focusing on whatever it thinks it's focusing on so halite also has a manual focus feature and that's another pan and scanning right like that that's the whole trick is that they're using the very wide frame and then they're cropping in and they're zooming in and out of that crop and panning and scanning around to make it they're basically punching out the wide angle from the ultra wide angle and using the ultrawide angle as computational distance to keep you in frame okay saying it's ultra it's all to the camera is ultra wide and only ultra wide and just simply lies to you when it's not when it's you're asking it to do something that doesn't require extra pixels i have been playing with facetime and zoom i really love it that i can move around on the front-facing camera and if i you know the selfie camera it follows me around it doesn't lisa can come into the shot yeah it's really cool i've seen this before i mean uh there are other cameras that do this the portal did it uh but they're owned by facebook they buy this on by facebook but but i but it's actually fairly useful and apple is not quite as quick to move the camera so it's a little less jarring i don't know i just think it's well implemented so that's another nice feature but they but they did they did also say that to your point earlier i i my attention was was was attracted by oh yeah there's an ultra wide mode that you're not supposed to be able to use but we're figuring how to use it but yeah they also said that there basically has a macro mode super super close uh close focusing uh because of the lens arrangement from it so again this is this is this is why we need developers like these that are just gonna beat on this hardware and figure out oh well what do you know it turns out that we can give you a feature that apple decide apple opted not to give you for free well yeah so if you want to read more lux.camera which is the halide blog and they talk in great detail sebastian dewitt talks in great detail about uh what's going on and why leo shouldn't be quite so disappointed in the choice of cameras for the ipad at least there's assassin is again legit genius he did the famous leather version of the find my app he did double twist on android i think he basically invented sub pixel anti-aliasing on android back in the day and now he's been working on this it's just the little things yeah yeah yeah i didn't really see like a double twist that's cool yeah it's a big yeah which was which was a hell of a hell of a trick back in the day yeah this is this is he really is he routinely comes out with these old-school type apps that the the the bummer of modern app tech of app kits is that it really is hard to get out of whatever list of approved access to the hardware and access to the apis that the the the manufacturer lets you have it really does require that you just bang on every single door and just every time that you do a test and the answer is wow that's funny i didn't expect that now your entire weekend is shot because you have to figure out exactly why was i able to do it what is implied by the fact that when i that that there are more p that there's this is supposedly a low resolution camera and yet it's able to follow me without having a motorized mount on that lens and then just poking and prodding until you make it do this thing that apple did not intend you as the developer to do unless of course apple decided to quietly in a conversation with the developers say hey isn't that interesting i hope i'm looking forward to what we're looking forward to any ideas that you might have uh in the next version of halide as opposed to photography on the ipad yeah i'm the boston public library opens uh reopens in about a week and a half two weeks i can't number one on my agenda is to just do photography with just halite on the ipad uh because halite has made has given me a lot of smiles over the past week just seeing what it can do yeah it's the new news yeah stuff the depth stuff is ridiculous yeah so so uh just to recap because i think i muddled the two things the the there is an ult the the camera on the the selfie camera is ultra wide and apple uses that's how apple does the the moving around thing and so it's able to it only does a crop of it but it also understands yeah with software it's able to really correct for what is normally in an ultra wide lens uh a lot of distort barrel distortion and then on the other side the the the i what do you call that is that the selfie camera is the front facing camera the rear camera i guess yeah um you it turns out you can really get a lot closer than you can on on an iphone for macro photography do that trick they do the opposite of that trick on the iphone because for the last two versions of the iphone if you didn't care about their rich rich sweater mode with deep fusion you could enable extended capture and that way if you took like a group picture with the wide angle and you chopped off somebody you could press a button and it also took the ultra wide frame and you could recenter it so andy i expect you to get right up close to those squirrels right afterwards you know i'll if you're in in your honor i will smear peanut butter like one inch underneath the camera sensor so you can get the full the full effect of camera noses and whiskers right in the face of the camera i found that there are two words that the that enable that it's candied peanuts you know what you got candied peanuts you're gonna get a picture of leo in the wild right [Music] they are good you have to decide how much you're going to share with them uh here's by the way from sebastian's post on lux.camera on the left is the closest you can focus on an iphone 12 pro max on the right is the closest you can focus on the ipad that's a significant difference uh and and the close-up gives you really a a good kind of macro style result so that's pretty good that's pretty cool yeah did we know that apple posted the adas just a little while ago the what the developer awards we know they posted the finalists but they've actually posted all the finalists yeah these this is not the awards will be announced later in the day yeah but uh these are the finalists in case you're interested shall we go through them uh chris pop up yes here it is this is from nine to five mac the finalists announced a couple of hours ago for the apple design awards this is these are pretty important uh apple decides pretty the apple site's prettier if you want to click through to it oh yeah let's do that yeah let's do that this is really boring they have icons and everything sorry i'm so i'm so superficial design no no no this is and most people are listening but for those of you watching you deserve the highest quality images so what is the inclusivity category i'm not sure what that is uh i think that's you know for accessibility and including very voice accessible okay so one password but also like diverse a monsters expedition alba hollow vista me a kid's diary by tiny bop and voice dream reader uh so i guess that means one password would be the most uh the best uh accessible most accessible password manager i guess i'm not sure in the delight and fun category little orpheus the chinese room pockpock playroom poolside fm so good i haven't played any of these but this is going to give me something to do tonight if i can tear myself away from viking about house building rakugaki ar south of the circle and wonder box that's in the delight and fun category and in the interaction i'm not sure i like these categories i don't it's not clear what yeah they're opaque in the interaction category yeah bird alone carrot weather for snarkitude craft nova from panic which i use in love that's a mac app uh so these are all these aren't ipads these are mac or what what is the deal on this now i'm confused i thought this was ipad it's a very old paper ios yeah yeah nova which is only on uh on mac spin sp exclamation mark sp bang ng and wonder box so some of these are ios i know they are i don't understand a lot i mean a lot of these were are fun entertaining apps i'm they're not a whole lot that show off exactly how powerful uh a mac or uh or an ios device can be right so this this is what it's like renee said i maybe i'm just being confused by the fact that there aren't dedicated categories of best productivity best game best educational best it just seems as though it's it's hard it's hard to figure out what the rhyme or reason this is it's not like the best directors exist only to say thank you for implementing the frameworks we told you to implement in a good way doing it right but honestly if i were apple that's a good thing to give here's the reward for doing it right for the best bending of the knee yes benthany in social impact alba attentat 1942 be my eyes which is an amazing app i'm familiar with that brief um which looks familiar but i can't remember what it does if found and clima from climate labs gmbh visuals and graphics this is these are the ones you want to look at because they're pretty behind a steel beyond the steel sky i've played that beautiful genshin impact also beautiful but not beautiful in this in an unreal five sense but in a kind of artistic sense little orpheus luna or luona mission to mars and not boring weather by andy works no relation not pouring weather well andy does work yes sort of innovation there's a licensing fee bird alone blind drive lol wild rift museum alive nad sadhana and universe and uh those are the nominees we the awards are monday afternoon or monday evening uh after the keynotes the apple very cool trophy is it yeah yeah it's a it's a it's a very joni eye sort of thing i i've said before it is the ultimate like apple device and that is very very rare uh it is brushed aluminum it has no visible buttons or anything and the most the most visible feature is a glowing apple logo yeah does it have is battery not included i think there's a there's there's an x-ray of so some one winner x-rated and it is like of interesting piece of technology that lights up when you touch it interact with it it does have batteries inside it although i can't remember whether there are i think you have again a typical apple product there's no there are no user replaceable batteries inside another one exactly one year later your apple design award starts lighting up because somebody else has won it now so that was it it's really heavy you have to go to carousel you're in yeah it was funny this week when the rumor came out that johnny i have contributed towards the new imac because previously people like oh finally we're finally beyond the johnny ive era and their colors are back and this is back and then that rumor came out and all of a sudden it's like oh well that's why there's still a chin is it credible that johnny i have worked on the 24-inch i guess it depends on what your definition of work is it could be like anything from you came into the lab johnny we'd like to show you we'd like to show you it's a sketch it's just a sketch what is really the essence of the eyebrows you gotta remember that these the imac was probably designed to two years ago you know like it's not it's not yeah he may not be here as much now but he was around when two or three years ago was probably when that struck when the design of how it's going to look it probably started the story comes from jeremy white in uh wired who says the 2021 imac is a great family computer thanks to johnny ive again uh disservice to evan hankey yeah absolutely yeah oh okay um it was evan's it was evan's rumor all right well just see the idea oh thanks to johnny ive this is a successful product like because he hired evan hanke because he still did it but and it's probably more like i don't know like i have no knowledge of how much he thinks but it could be anything from sketches to they showed it to him when he was in town for dinner yeah that i i read that article and that's i reacted that way because it didn't the article doesn't seem to say exactly what contribution uh where his fingerprints are or if there's this was or even if this was just this is part of a pad of sketches that he made while he was at apple about the future trends for the imac about hey well what if in the next what what if uh we what if our m1 plan our apple silicon plan comes from fruition around this time frame well then we could do this sort of a product as opposed to we hired him as a subcontractor to do major design work there's just no information and so that it just it just seemed like a kind of a frisky headline considering how much work went into it by people who actually have still have apple badges and we know whether uh it's it's real or or just uh you know a formality that uh apple does employ johnny ives the current design firm uh this is this is the um the paragraph from the wired story but apple has another reason to reference this old campaign johnny ive was involved in the design of this new imac despite having left apple back in 2019. hardware design is a long process so perhaps it's not surprising that ives's fingerprints are all over this new desktop i didn't see them but maybe yeah i was gonna say yeah i had to clean it for hours interestingly apple would not confirm or deny if he worked on the 2021 imac after he left the company but they did confirm he had worked on it so it's more than a rumor apple said yes he did work on it but yeah to what degree i think that blue is a little too blue or something it's the wrong trousers exactly his fingerprints and also some flecks of pastrami because he did come in during a lunch break to take a look at the proposed design so and it was stuck in the middle it's now in the middle it's it's left his fingerprints yeah his pastrami is with fingerprints you can tell by the chamfer angles on the on the procedure forever uh there is also uh the apple swift student challenge those winners we do have because they get to go to wwdc they get us what a special zoom room i don't know what they get but uh these are these are the kids uh they did they do this every uh year 350 swift student challenge winners from 35 different countries and regions will be among the globe the millions of global attendees well it's a little less special this year i think you're going to see an increasing focus from all parties involved on students that are they're learning how to do this that are not necessarily college-aged yeah that's because you'll see that you know grow with google is focused on non-degree uh you know these companies are not getting the supply of of folks that they need uh at a rate that they need them and so they're basically starting to bypass education yeah you know and and go straight into like how do we train them directly because we need them now you know so here's one of the winners jonah yan when the pandemic began gianna yen's immuno compromised grandparents struggled to get essential supplies like groceries delivered to their home in hawaii she's 16 she lives in oakland she says my sister and i felt especially driven to help because we were so far away so they created feed fleet an app that pairs volunteers with at-risk individuals to deliver essential goods to their doorstep wow good for her 16. she joined she joined the farmlink project a student created non-profit that helps farms connect their surplus produce to food banks they've redirected 30 million pounds of food she's now designing an app that will help students report incidents of sexual assault on school campuses and other assists with breast cancer self-examinations and detecting heart disease in women and that's just during pandemic nice john ayan really nice uh here's another one just i like to highlight these abanaya dinesh she's 15 from north brunswick new jersey uh she said i went to a gastroentero enterologist he diagnosed me with a pelvic floor disorder then told me nothing about how i was supposed to get better so she created an app gastro at home she'll launch it this summer on the app store it helps people with gastrointestinal disorders access information and resources these are look i'm sorry go ahead i'm just saying she's scratching her own itch yeah she has not yet graduated graduated from high school yeah but these these are exactly the sort of stories that apple loves to tell where it's not about kids who are like me with the 15 saying i bet i could write my operating system for the apple 2e right now it gets 18 sectors instead of 16 this is this is this is basically you know like normal humans who are see a need and just as just like you can you can hold a brush in your hand you can type something on a keyboard their idea is that hey i've got this i don't have to be a nerd i don't have to be motivated by desi fascination with programming in order to write a great piece of software that fills a need that i see that and that can benefit from my own point of view and this is it it really is a great great great not even as a piece of pr it's just a great statement about the power of accessibility to coding here's a 17 year old from woodbridge virginia demi lola efo facado she she tried to get into hackathons but couldn't so she and a friend decided to start their own tech hacks a non-profit that describes its mission as creating a supportive environment for girls everywhere to create problem solve and showcase their talents alongside like-minded females to compete and work with their first hackathon was august 20 20 800 participants 60 countries that's pretty awesome again you know if the world's not conforming to your needs do it yourself she's also working on an asl at american sign language app that she will launch later this year awesome on the app store she wants to uh she's in high school still she wants to study computer science and political science good for her those are the three uh that apple highlighted in there a newsroom but there are many more unfortunately the prize this year isn't as wonderful as it has been in years past where you got a trip to see the wwdc conference here in person but still uh a really nice honor a bunch of really cool people inside yeah and a bunch of cool people inside apple are respond eager to see their emails and responding to them and are going to help them with their future projects too so that's yeah it gives you a little bit i think it's because yeah because my what what what's what a very special trio of human beings that there's their spotlight isn't that awesome because just not not just hey i made this app and i found this way to monetize it and now i'm i'm saying goodbye to college because i'm making too much money it's no here's a really cool here's a again it's point of view your eyes are on the ground you see a problem that you are motivated to fix that only you can pursue with that kind of a passion and my god are they doing a great job of it it's just so impressive and it just really puts a smile a big smile on my face we uh i ran in a time last week before i could talk about this but this is a light week so i'm glad we could do it now apple has previewed some powerful software updates designed for people with disabilities i think they've all launched now if i'm not mistaken sign time launched uh may 20th to connect apple store and apple support customers with on-demand sign language interpreters so you can you can uh they will sign your uh session at the apple store which is which is really i think the rest are coming with the betas after dub dub okay okay by the way it supports asl but also british sign language french sign language and it is in the web browser which i think is fantastic coming coming later assistive touch for apple watch it looks like magic that video is like magic well let me okay let's let's look at the video here so um i'll turn on the sound being able to operate on apple watch without being able to see the display for example to stop a timer double clench to activate assistive text oh man pinch your index finger and thumb that's awesome move focus with the stop button then clench to confirm it can tell from your hand movement you can also use these gestures quick actions the sensors and the pulses you can double clinch to immediately pick up will this work for everybody there are also additional controls i'm going to use that it's meant for people with with limb differences but it will work for everybody the action menu pinch to move focus to the motion pointer and clinch to confirm wow now you can move your arm to hover the pointer over the oh no yep oh yes the end button wow motion pointer can also be activated by simply shaking your hand so that's a suspect with this new feature we're able to open the door set oh i am even more people getting chills that hasn't been possible that's brilliant so the accessibility team is so good how are they doing that i mean so they're somehow sensing your movements of your hand the accelerometer the gyroscope and the pulse reader depending on the what's what's happening with the blood flow going through your arm at any given time yeah and the and the other answer to that question is they're doing that because they care about making this happen yeah they figure they're figuring out a way to happen instead of simply dismissing it and saying that well of course you know find motor control how are you going to how are you going to be able to hit a target that is this small it might be and you also have a problem holding your your other wrist steady oh well what can you do well well let's i don't know let's spend another spend a whole year and and a whole bunch of money trying to figure out how we can do this you you have to care about this stuff in order to make this stuff happen and this and apple clearly cares about this stuff and spend a lot of money that's that's a team working a long time to get that to work that's really first time i met sarah herrlinger who runs accessibility marketing at apple uh she's like the product marketing lead for this stuff it was i got a briefing about selfie mode for low and no vision people in the camera app and i and she's like most people say why would they want to take selfies but you know they want to it's not that they want to see their own selfie they want to send it to all their friends and family so we figured out move your head it's not enough it's not bright enough you're too far to the left and we would talk them through the process and they they don't think about like they don't think about what feature would be like what are they missing out what can we deliver to them so they can have the most complete experience possible and every year like they they made cursor mode and now everybody has cursor mode they made like like a smart inverse and now everybody has they keep pioneering all this stuff over and over again they're so beyond him and i don't think i don't think that i mean there's this is such a deep commitment there and i don't think it has anything to do with it's not cash positive for them absolutely this is something that they you know they don't care but even then it costs so much i'm sure hundreds of millions to do that no but they get it it's about accessibility isn't like oh isn't it nice of us that we're making this no it's like this is table stakes if you if if if there are your customer base includes people of all different types you have to be you have to be able to serve all of those different people they were right to demand that kind of stuff and so once again it comes to it it's the world is not you know yin and yang it's not like just one or the other but nonetheless at some point you ask the question do you care about this or do you not care about this as a company and apple when it comes to accessibility keeps answering the question that yes we do care about this we're going to figure out how to do this it's probably similar to the technology that the hand washing detector uses it's using multiple sensors listening for sounds of water running and squishing and your hands moving in a certain way by the way landmark moment i am going to turn off the hand washing timer now because i am sick and tired of washing my hands for 20 seconds i got to talk to sarah about this a little bit when it launched and she was saying that you know they would hear from people in the community who had limb differences or even people who just get injured like you you're suffering from an injury you're temporarily broken and she's like they would use their nose to do it it's just we got all this feedback we figured how can we how can we help uh people with these things and they go like last year they added that thing with the lidar sensor where it would tell you because people were in pandemic lines how close you were to the person in front of you because they had no real way of determining that when they were in a store or something they just they kind of think about the features and just year after year they knock more and more of these things down so cool that's really great that they do that uh eye tracking support is coming to the ipad for third-party eye tracking devices so you will want to get a mfi compatible device uh so that it can track your eyes you can explore images all the nerds think that this is ar like they all think that this technology is going to end up in all the ar stuff oh and well it kind of needs to watch eye movements right you know that's yeah and move your wrist to control things yeah apple's introducing new features for voice over that's the screen reader that is actually i think pretty good on apple stuff now using voiceover users can get descriptions of people text table data and other objects within images you can navigate the photo over receipt like a table by row and column complete with table headers this makes a huge difference because otherwise it's just a bunch of data and a bunch of words all jumbled together so it's really nice to have some structure to that and voice over there are there's new support for the mfi hearing devices program i use my hearing aids with my iphone and my ipad and my mom does uh too and it makes a big difference that you can hear audio from now apple's adding support for bi-directional hearing aids the microphones and these it's a new style i don't have these but there's a new style of hearing aids that will let people who are deaf or hard of hearing have hands-free phone and facetime conversations the next generation models because like we'll be available later why should you have to put an airpod in as well right you have you have the whole audio system yeah already in place yeah but it'll also uh support audi recognizing audiograms that's the the chart you get when you get a hearing test uh that so now this will be part of the headphone accommodations you can customize this is something samsung had that i really loved except in order to use the samsung you had to give yourself a hearing test with the phone this this will let you take your hearing test from your audiologist import it and then apply it which is amazing uh to your um audio i don't is it like an equalizer i guess it is that's that's how the samsung one works so like a customizer that's really cool uh apple's introducing new background sounds to minimize distractions and help you focus stay calm or rest you can have a bright balanced or dark nose noise as well as ocean rain or stream sounds play in the background this is great for people with like me with tinnitus tinnitus uh having a uh ocean in the background or a rain in the background can really uh mitigate mind at ten not ten times it's also for people with neurological differences it's like it's like getting a hug for your ears yeah it provides a con like something that's predictable because the problem is usually the unpredictability of sound it's not because people get confused to say why would you want this sound and is that it is predictable sound that is always there so you're not startled or surprised by it and it drowns out the more um what's the word like the the chaos the chaotic sounds that you're not prepared for we've had uh family members that wear headphones in grade school for that very reason they can't because it's too all of that noise is distracting coming later this year sound actions for switch control display and text size settings that could be customized per app which is fantastic and new customizations from emojis to better represent users with oxygen tubes cochlear implants and a soft helmet for headwear that's just so it's wonderful it's inclusive i think this is really great thank you apple uh that's really fantastic some really really great stuff so i didn't do this last week i meant to and we ran out of time but i'm glad we could do it uh this week um or you so tell me if this is true i'm going to be depressed i bought a very expensive ipad pro with 16 gigs of ram and now it turns out no app can use more than five gigs at any one time for now i mean it's true it's true-ish it's it's one of the things that was just like i ipad os came from ios and ios has certainly not needed a lot of ram because it doesn't have interpretations doesn't have garbage collection and now they've stuck an m1 chip that happens to have 8 or 16 gigabytes of ram so that's an artificial limit that i'm sure will fall down with the yeah the next update this came from the guys who do cro procreate because of course if you're creating a elaborate image with lots of layers you would love to have more than five gigs of ram the nice thing right now is that if you're using procreate like i don't think i've had an app respon spawn yet and i've got apps like a week old and i'll go back to them and they're still in memory and websites are still in memory and ios has no swap like it has no concept of writing to ssd so all it does is jets in any app that that when it runs out of memory as soon as it's memory pressure it jets them as an app so with this it like it doesn't there's no memory pressure doesn't mean so i've gone back to really heavy apps like like three or four days later and they're still in memory maybe that's one of the little subtle changes that makes this more usable i can't figure out why but i just feel like it's more usable maybe that's that's part of it um so the so ios itself can use obviously can use more than five gigs of ram just no one application can it reserves a gig for the system and then it makes the rest available but the rest available the top point was six gigabytes before so that i don't i never want to say it's like flipping a bit because i think that shows my ignorance of software development but it's it's one of those things that i expect will just disappear with the next update yeah maybe ios 15 you think yeah or yeah ipad os they're still the same but yes again it goes to the common complaint that that the ipad is not good enough at multitasking and that's one pain point that apple can improve and really take to the next level and the timing is perfect for it to be updated given you know by the fall at least and announced next week so right right right right so i don't i won't feel too bad i can't i don't have any apps that need that much ram i'm not saying i need to the five gigs comes from the fact that the top of the line ipads only had six gigs until this yeah latest one so one gig for that makes sense now one gig for the uh operating system five gigs max yeah you know it might have been something as simple as just it's hard coded in which it when it shouldn't have been and now it uh that'll change depending on the total available ram someday well someone just picks a number and says no one will ever need more than that that's famous in the computer and so you don't ever need more than five computers don't ever need more than 128 but mega but that's what i'm saying i think it might not have been that it might have been because well we know that the most wherever we're going to ship in an ipad is six gigs we know we want one gig for ios so you'll never be able to get more than five gigs so we'll make that the max but there's no reason to hard code that you should really say what's the total available ram okay let me allocate minus one yeah exactly i think you could probably figure that out and probably fix that so uh very interesting nobody even thought that you would want more than five gigs but i bet you procreate and other apps photoshop would love you know luminar would love not luminar um but then you're going to start judging apps again and people will complain all my apps are no longer in memory right maybe let us swap as well particularly if you're gaming and you want to pause a game in the background and then you come back say oh okay that was nice i'm gonna have to start that again ooh that i wouldn't want well no not not like start the game all over again but it means that okay so now instead of being able to remember i thought all i was gonna do was was check out check some email and then follow up on a couple of websites but it turns out that now i'm gonna have to restart this whole restart this game and resume from where i was because it had to be booted out of memory uh any other stories we want to cover i know this is it's uh we're still under two hours i gotta keep going 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support back break weekly time for our picks i this isn't a pick yet for me but i i saw this and i signed up for something that looks promising at getbigmail.com have you guys seen this uh yet it's not out yet but uh i i did sign up it is a new way to use email what's nice i noticed it works not just with gmail which a lot of these do in icloud mail but also with my imap provider fast mail and other imap providers but we've been you know for so long we've been trying to solve mail that remember hey mail the hey.com guys which were one of the things they did which i thought was really cool i didn't end up buying it because it was expensive but they they made it so that you you wouldn't have to get mail from anybody until you approved it big mail is doing that they call it the bouncer the first time someone emails you they appear in the bouncer and then you decide do i want to hear from them ever again that feature alone in hey.com really was great they also have a reply later not just reply reply all but reply later which will ping you later when it's time to reply and they broke break down um emails into now i do this already with a big with a lot of filtration and fall you know rules but i think that's a lot of work for some people they're going to do this automatically with something they call scenes which are basically email categories conversations newsletters purchases notifications events and files and i think that's a very good idea and that'll all happen automatically especially the newsletter categorization so i haven't got it yet so it's not really a recommendation except that maybe this would be a good time to sign up right now it's free i don't think it will be free forever they're talking about the fact that look our our business model aligns with your interests because we're going to charge you uh they don't use a third-party server it's direct it's basically an email client um but and they say try free for seven days i don't know what the uh what the in-app purchases will be from the not-so-big company big male but i thought this maybe looks like it's worth a trial as soon as i get it i will give you a real review of that uh renee ritchie your pick of the week so i i have to be me leo and i think everybody tuning in and that is what i've been wearing this whole episode lisa came running over to me yesterday and said get me this that is beautiful i think it's their best pride band ever just so what is it so i keep is it fabric what is it made of it's their it's their woven oh it is a fabric but it is yeah it is i don't want to say it's an eyeliner but it's one of those super materials that is you know it doesn't get that soft it gets a little soggy doesn't get that soggy i was wearing the plain black version of their woven loop for since it came out and it's just been fantastic you do have to get the right size i can i can fit in the six or the seven this one is the seven so it's not too tight uh but just the colors that they managed to put on it and when you combine it with the watch face um it just looks extra they just knock the pride bands out of the world like out of the park out of the apple park every year and usually they come out at wwdc and i'm able to snag one at the apple store yeah you see like as soon as they come out this time they sort of timed it differently so i had to wait for it to arrive but i am so happy with them so uh it kind of more looks like um i hope you will forgive me a rag rug but that i love rag rugs where uh my mom used to make them she would weave together different stripes of color oh and there's lisa beautiful yeah lisa already said gorgeous i'm getting one um it really really looks pretty that is that is really i have a video in the next spot and you're using now is this a special watch new watch pride watch face like because that's yeah they always release a new watch face that comes with the matches the bands and this one when you turn your wrist it like you'll see it there it kind of animates itself dirty very nice into the frame which just little nice little touches i might have to get this i i've never gotten one of the fabric watches because of the measurement issue yes measure carefully measure measure thrice order once uh but i think i will order this one thank you renee good like andy said before like they go to the effort of doing these things and it goes back to my favorite tim cook moment where the hedge fund was saying why do you waste money on accessibility and all these other things and he says he does he doesn't give a damn about the bloody roi and i think that's just my epic tim cook moment does he uh do they don't they must donate did they donate some uh portion of the proceeds for this or they just i don't recall they have in the past and they've they've done a bunch of different and they have their whole diversity and inclusivity um program they're doing now for millions and millions of dollars that they keep announcing more things too right let me just uh check here where with pride put the website in there only at apple right braided solo loop only at apple pride edition there's a nike version as well it's 99 bucks they better give some money to somebody geez louise um inspired by the inclusivity combined strength and beauty of pride yes apple's proud to support lgbtq advocacy organizations including in circle equality north carolina gender spectrum glsen i can go on and on there's quite a long list they don't say how much of it is donated created by weaving 16 000 recycled polyester yarn filaments around ultra thin silicone threads using advanced precision braiding machinery then laser cutting the band to an exact length for a custom fit no wonder it's 99 bucks it should be 200 yeah it's always it always i don't want to sour the no but it always surprises me that a company that can spend three billion dollars chamfering an edge can't put a plug in my stupid phone box but they choose to spend their money the way they choose to spend their money that's their money to spend the way they wish and they make it a course for 40 and 44 millimeter but do make sure you measure correctly because these things don't have a buckle or anything they either fit or they don't fit there's some stretch to it some give right yeah yeah you can stretch quite a bit and the unlike the other um version of the regular loop this one will like you can stretch it back into place so i've had one i've been wearing for the last seven months that's just a little bit looser than it originally was but it's fine okay then run it through the a hot dryer it'll shrink it [Music] uh okay i came late to this puzzle game and now i'm might never survive it it's a game black box for ios and it's just the most wonderfully creative and beguiling thing i've a game i've ever encountered it's uh you're used to these puzzle games where it's like okay so the mechanic is that there's a rope and there's and it's attached to pulleys and you have to cut it in the right place screen after screen to make sure that the water hits the pail instead of okay i get it and it's going to be more complicated no all you get this consistent is that there are these lights that are on the screen and your job is to turn on this light to confirm that you have solved this puzzle and at the start they're very very simple that you notice that by tilting the phone by tilting the ipad that these waves sort of appear from side to side and that interacts with the light in some way and then you get it at later stages you get to things like it's it's it's not a simple mechanic each puzzle is kind of unique and some of them are so brilliantly out of the box like you will be at what point one point you'll be thinking this can't oh wow something happened when uh when that noise happened someplace in the wait a minute i don't have to be making noises that are going to interact with this screen are it or am i or i'm not going to have to like cover up a light sensor to make something happen to you i'm not gonna have to do that stuff oh man these things happen and it's like and it came out two or three years ago and it really it almost became like a cult like experience the experience of playing this game it's a lot like one of these like mit treasure hunts where again there's a there's a puzzle to be solved but you you can't find the answer unless you're going to this street corner at this time at night because that's the only time that the street lamp in front of the uh the 18 1888 neko factory tower is lit so you can see the order of the lights that are on that tower that's the sort of stuff that this is going at where every time you're stuck it's not because gosh i can't figure out okay if this rope is going to up to this pulley then up to this weight but then there's a bird that hits that no it's like you have to be very very conscious of what your environment is doing and what your emotions are doing it almost never involves tapping anywhere on the screen it's always about like yours your presence in space and time and your interaction with the device itself uh there are like dozens and dozens of levels to this uh the and it's a free game the other thing that's revolutionary about it is that uh it's not it's a free game and it's not like uh electronic arts games where you can't get ahead unless you buy hints they will sell you hints if you want to buy hints but if you all you can also get hints by recommending recommending this game to other people and then they wind up downloading it uh but and even the hints are very very clever and very very satisfying it's the it's the sort of puzzle game where you're not getting more and more frustrated as you go on and more and more obsessed it's where the rewards are more and more deep and fulfilling where you feel as though my god that was i can't believe i spent three days figuring that out but my god what a beautiful solution to a puzzle that was i'm still stuck in the second one so i don't yeah this is hard but it's fascinating and they are they are clever in their hint structure and stuff so that's cool i haven't played that before i'm going to play it now yeah you you do feel as though there is an actual like person and some sort of a layer somewhere with a hundred screens around them and they're trying to be devil used specifically in turn it's just beautifully beautifully done it's it's it's almost like interactive art uh if if there is such a thing in there it does say in-app purchases but that's for an additional puzzle pack which is 4.99 but you can again you can buy it you can buy you can buy hints you can buy additional puzzles you do not require to you don't have to buy anything else to make it work as a matter of fact the creator put this post on medium explaining what his intent was and how he decided that uh this is a way to work and i think it actually did when an apple design award the year came out like 2017 or 2018. oh i get it i have to go underneath it yeah exactly i see i see i only see i only got that one so quickly because i happen to be in bed like with my new ipad that's like actually using it like this and i would never have gotten it had i realized oh wow i'm actually using it upside down does this work on the ipad as well or is it uh yep yeah oh it works without any change whatsoever yeah nice thank you andy you've just ruined my life uh thank you which is your goal i know at every possible juncture it's part of my core competency you didn't read my cv when i first applied for podcasting work andy will take up all of your free time with games and amusements you cannot put down you will you'll regret meeting him you will regret doubly hiring him in any degree of responsibility and yet you will not be able to sever your connection because he is just that beguiling that's right you have beguiled me uh somebody in our chat room 3466 says it's one of the greatest ways to learn what your phone can do i've finished all 79 levels it's great and now it's time to spend money with alex lindsay's pick of the week oh he's muted i'm he's the invisible alex lindsey go ahead yeah yeah hear me now yeah okay um so uh uh so what i'm recommending is called isadora and i wanted to recommend partially because i didn't even know it existed until like three or four months ago and it's been around for years and so um and and it's um uh it's it was created by mark coniglio who is a uh he's a performance artist or he works in in these different performances and for a long time you know he's been he's been really part of a lot of the breaking you know stuff that in the 80s and 90s and he wrote just to fix the problem of when you're on stage being able to control the lights and control the playback and control audio and video and have them all integrated and have them all queueable and have them all you know talking to each other and we've begun to use it actually for zoom because liminol has uh andy carluccio at liminol has been able to tie information from zoom into isadora to control windows and graphics and everything else online and virtually and so but when i started digging into it we're going to have actually mark is going to come on office hours on friday and uh and talk about it but as i i talked to him last week and i was just really amazed at what's possible so really and and and then of course i talked to people in theater and they're like uh yeah it's it'd be like walking up to someone who works in print and go have you heard of photoshop yeah right like it's like they're like yeah yeah we have heard of that and so um yeah and everybody uses it so it's a really if you're if you're looking for something like that again the it it what it does is it maps inputs and outputs really effectively and it includes the ability to um you know control things you know outside of it so you can say i want to have that when this information comes in i want to remap it and have it go do this it's it's um it's a really powerful server system that can help lots of different kinds of hardware and software interact with each other whether it's dmx or osc or for all of the different boxes that you use in uh yeah and it's important but it's not designed to be a you know a lot of us can not a lot of us but people can do this with programming what this was really written by as an artist you know so this is all very visual so you can tie things together and say okay well now i want to do this and have it go this way and so and it was really what's great about it is that it comes from where the great apps come from which is someone trying to solve their own problem right you know years ago and this is again brand new to me only three months ago but it's been around for 20 years you know and so it's it's something that has been building up in the theater business for in in performance business for years and it's really kind of a mainstay for a lot of these things but um but uh i had never heard of it before it's a switcher but not just for cameras for everything well it's lights yeah it's a data audio transport system yeah you can say when i hit when i hear when i get this information from over here i want you to go do this over here so you can grab this stuff nice well that's the whole thing is tying it all in and that it can also tie into cues from your stream deck from uh buttons that you created from people being in a certain place from people talking and zoom like all of those things can be uh automated and say well when you see this information i want you to go do these other things and but you know and we think about automation tools but this is really built to talk to all the things that you would need again uh in the area of things like dmx and osc and and lots of other controllers and being able to reach out and and make all those work so it's a it's a you know really uh really powerful application and and again i was amazed that i that it was so powerful and that i hadn't i hadn't used it so i hadn't heard about it so interesting licensing situation too you can subscribe for 150 a year or 17.50 a month or you can rent it for a week for 10 bucks the reason that you do that outright for 550 bucks which is really interesting i think yeah and smart i think you know it's reacting to the to the market so you know a lot of times you may have you have an event that's going to happen for the next week and you want to rent it right you know or you know so you i just want to run it because i already know how to use it but i need a custom one for this so i'm going to bring something that's already largely pre-built right and but i need i need an actual copy and so i only need but yeah because you couldn't learn it in one week probably yeah yeah you know yeah and it and i believe and i can't remember i i have to look back on it but i believe that it that you can use it as much as you want you just won't save so you can kind of like work with it and figure it out um you know and see how those things work i believe that's i've been dealing with so many of these recently that of these automation tools that i can't remember which ones had which rules but but the um but i believe that that it's there there is a fair number of things you can do with it just in the demo and i may be inaccurate about that because there's another one that's similar to this that i haven't played with as well but and it doesn't say it on the website here but it is this is just such a um you know incredible tool to tie all the stuff together and um we've been using it again for things like zoom where it's taking information from zoom using zoom osc which is what liminal makes and then passing that information into isadora and then passing you know more you know information and queuing graphics and so on so forth with it is he german or he just lives in germany he's no he's from the u.s he's from the us yeah he's um i just talked to him he's he's in austria when i talked to him he was uh he's in austria i think right now but but he uh but he's from the us i can't remember the exact yeah but he's his company trichotronix is in berlin yeah yeah so and he's and again if anyone you know we're going to interview him um in office hours on friday um because it's you know he just was really fascinated with what he's doing but it's a really cool application so isadora from troikatronics at troikatronics.com and by the way that's a good uh introduction to office hours which is pretty much a 24 7 operation these days soon you know we are we're we we we are uh we may be 24 00. i was only joking a little bit we're not yeah yeah we're we're the show itself will only be a couple hours no reason to turn off the cameras just keep going well the funny thing is is that when i'm not there it's actually there's so many great people that are in the community now that we have this pre-show and a post show that happens you know in the post show i'm never in and the pre-show i kind of check in and then i go make breakfast and stuff like that and it's so much fun to listen to i can't even not listen i'm listening to everybody else talking about problem solving and figuring stuff out and working through things and so um when i'm not there now i have my own fomo of the rest of the community you know it's not about me anymore it's it's like i'm like they're gonna talk about something important and i'm i'm not going to be there so i i have my phone i log in i listen to the listen to everyone talking and we are talking about the idea that we probably should just run it run the kind of the slow going all the slow version can you leave zoom on 24 7. no you can't you guys switch it i think it's either 24 or 36 hours you have to flip a new one but i mean you just have to re i have to do is close it and open it but the um but the uh one of the things that we are well the show itself office hours is about to become something that looks a lot more like a show so in fact if you want to watch us create that that show like experience over yes today or yesterday we started talking about it today and tomorrow and thursday we've been like really figuring it out and we're doing a really complex version of it because our version of zoom is like you know it's 10 breakout rooms and there's different people on each one and there's all this very complex audio and comms and there's people all over the world working on it at one time and so if you want to see how that what that looks like the next couple days will be interesting um and then uh and then we're going to start we're going to do more and more of these kind of shows around events uh wwc being one of the first ones where we've done some a couple things around keynotes before but this one's going to be the first one we're really designing a show around it um and so we're looking at nab and ibc and other ones c graph and things like that where we kind of um you know bring people in so like monday evening we'll have developers coming in that are going to talk about you know how those how the developer announcements impact them you know and and so and taking questions the big thing about office hours is there's no there's no show show just we show up and we go okay what are your questions so so that's a different kind of uh different kind of show so anyway very cool if you want to probably best way to sample it is to go to youtube.com alex lindsay where they put the recorded versions of office hours which are just a small fraction of the total but you can at least say two hours a day yeah and then and then there's a link to with the office hours uh uh zoom invite yep uh and you can now join if you want to uh sign up or if you want to if you're interested in the wwc one you can go to officehours.global which will be uh the website that'll keep on building up it nice overtime office hours dot global we'll start putting that in under under your name of course follow alex on on twitter a-l-e-x-l-i-n-d-s-a-y because that's a great place to figure out what the hell is going on sometimes sometimes and sometimes we'll talk about honey sometimes just honey it's just honey by the end of 2021 you'll have registered as a place of worship for tax purposes by the end of 2022 you're going to have your own compound yeah but you know he's gonna have his own planet i think the the you know we have uh we the 501c3 is in process so we should an actual yeah we should be an actual uh non-profit within the next month or two yeah uh i the breadth and width of the topics you cover is kind of mind-boggling uh but you've got experts in everything so it's fascinating that's the whole thing is that it's not i learn as much every day as as everybody else does i mean there's people here that we talked about um uh fine tuning and a you know last yeah last week and um anyway uh on a well-tempered scale like literally we spent an hour well tempered scales it's fascinating yeah but it was like it wasn't it was like six people that just knew everything about it and then the rest of us just kind of learning from them and so each one of these things digs in uh the the especially yeah it's amazing how deep some of the questions the answers get people ask these questions every day every single day congratulations i mean you've really created something brand new and very really interesting really cool youtube.com alex lindsey andy naco when are you going to be on gbh next uh thursday at 1 pm go to wgbhnews.org and stream it either live or later good great to have you always we nearly bet we're nearly gonna be back at the boston public library this dude the wgbh studios at the bpo hallelujah can't wait i told you i'm not washing my hands anymore it's it's an amazing thing i gotta say uh uh and and of course uh mr renee richie youtube.com renee ritchie he's got his own channel there where he cranks out massively excellent content he's also got the apple talk show with georgia dow and i'm sure that's going great too anything else you want to plug i'll just be doing all the wwdc videos for everything that they announced today to that end i presume you're not going to be here on next tuesday or maybe you will i am i get i get booked solid real fast for those things yeah so uh so we won't see you next week but we'll see you no but i'll be on the following sunday for twitter a special uh twit jason stone will also join us so we're gonna be talking a lot about apple but i've already jason said you're not skipping a show that easily sir i also said uh uh we're gonna have to have somebody who's not apple on that show so we don't go too crazy i hope there's a lot to talk about after monday i really do andy and alex you'll be here on tuesday of next week yes yes indeed absolutely forgot doc rock to join us it's gonna be a great week i've got i've got my command center all set up for uh for monday that's my usual two screen setup good and of course uh mike sergeant and i will cover wwdc's keynote monday 10 a.m pacific that's uh 1 p.m eastern time 1700 utc if you want to watch that uh you can watch it uh youtube uh uh has a live stream actually the best thing to do go to twit tv slash live the youtube stream and all the other streams will be available there you can pick the one that you like the best the chat room will be open and so we'll club twits discord uh we will uh open a stage for that and take comments as well club twit is our newest subscription plan seven bucks a month with three benefits benefit number one no ads in all of our shows there's a special feed for club twit members actually each member gets their own dedicated feed uh with ad-free versions of all those shows video and audio benefit 2 is our fabulous discord which is so much fun we're having a lot of fun with that highly recommend it if you've never used discord before it's a nice gentle introduction to it and there are people in there talking 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free offerings thank you everybody for being here back to work because break time is over see you next time bye-bye hope you enjoyed that episode if you would like to laugh while learning about how to take control and take advantage of all of the features that your ios devices provide then you should check out ios today the show rosemary orchard my co-host and i micah sergeant host every week on the twit network it's all things apple all the time [Music] you

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Length: 145min 2sec (8702 seconds)

Published: Wed Jun 02 2021