WE WILL BREAK IN. I'M TRACE GALLAGHER. NOW BACK TO "HANNITY." ♪ ♪ >> Sean: ALL RIGHT, COME AS WE CONTINUE TO BROADCAST, SO SUNNY CALIFORNIA, THE HIGHEST TAXED STATE IN THE COUNTRY, FOR THE HOUR, WE CONTINUE WITH CALIFORNIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE CAITLYN JENNER. ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET TO THIS ISSUE. ON THE ISSUE OF GIRLS, TRANSGENDER SPORTS, CREATED A CONTROVERSY, THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME, AND YOUR COMMENTS TO JOY BEHAR, WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS -- >> Caitlyn: YES. >> Sean: THEN PRONOUNS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. JOY BEHAR AND I AGREE ON NOTHING, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY GRACIOUS OF YOU AND I AGREED WITH YOU. I DON'T THINK SHE DID IT ON PURPOSE. >> Caitlyn: NO, MOST PEOPLE -- MY MOTHER, SOMETIMES S ME. BY THE WAY, MY MOTHER, SHE WAS, DURING WORLD WAR II, SHE WAS IN IT INSPECTOR FOR AIRCRAFT, I LOVE HER TO DEATH, SHE IS LIVING IN IDAHO. MY MOTHER LOVES YOU. [APPLAUSE] WATCHES YOU EVERY NIGHT. NO, SHE WATCHES YOU EVERY NIGHT, CALLS ME AFTER THE SHOW TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING ON "HANNITY." SO, IN TEN DAYS, SHE TURNS 95. >> Sean: I'M CALLING MOM. >> Caitlyn: HER NAME IS ESTHER. >> Sean: OKAY. >> Caitlyn: FOR A QUICK TO THE CAMERA, HAPPY BIRTHDAY. >> Sean: OF COURSE. ESTHER, HAPPY BIRTHDAY. GOD BLESS YOU. AND YOU ARE SMART, YOU ARE IN IDAHO. AND KAITLYN IS PAYING -- BY THE WAY, I'M DONE, I'M IN NEW YORK. CAITLYN IS IN CALIFORNIA. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YOU ARE IN OUR LOVE, THOUGHTS, AND PRAYERS. >> Caitlyn: SHE WILL GO CRAZY ON THAT ONE. ANYWAY, I JUST HAD TO DO THAT. >> Sean: GIRLS, TRANSGENDER SPORTS, PEOPLE THAT, LIKE JOY, SAY THE WRONG THING. >> Caitlyn: I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, MY MOM SOMETIMES, SHE GOT SUBSETS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THE COMMUNITY HAS A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH THAT THAN I DO. I STICK WITH MY STATEMENTS THAT I MADE. I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INTEGRITY OF GIRLS SPORTS IS THERE. I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. BUT IT'S -- THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST WHAT I SAID, BECAUSE I JUST SAID BIOLOGICAL BOYS IN SPORTS. THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT. I THINK I'M IN THE FUTURE, I WILL EXPLAIN MORE OF THAT, BUT FOR ME, AS A TRANS WOMAN, I THINK ROLE MODELS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. TRANS ISSUES, PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH BIG TIME. OUR SUICIDE RATE IS NINE TIMES HIGHER THAN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND FOR ME TO BE A ROLE MODEL FOR THEM, TO BE OUT THERE, I AM RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. WHO WOULD HAVE EVER THUNK THAT? WE'VE NEVER EVEN HAD A WOMAN GOVERNOR. >> Sean: BUT SOME ARE MAD AT YOU. >> Caitlyn: THAT'S -- I DON'T -- I MOVE ON. I WANT TO BE ABLE ROLE MODEL, AND TO BE A LEADER. AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AS A LEADER THAT YOU CAN DO IS YOUR COMPASSION, YOUR HONESTY, AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES IT'S VERY LACKING. IN POLITICS. SO, I WANT TO BE AN EXAMPLE TO ALL PEOPLE, NOT JUST TRANS PEOPLE, BUT THIS -- >> Sean: FLY ON THE SPORTS SIDE OF IT, THOUGH? HOW YOU CAME DOWN ON THE SPORTS SIDE OF THE ISSUE. >> Caitlyn: I DON'T KNOW WHY -- TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHY, WHY DO YOU THINK, SEAN, THEY KEEP ASKING ME THAT QUESTION? >> Sean: GREAT QUESTION. >> Caitlyn: IT IS A GOOD QUESTION. THERE IS MORE PROBLEMS HERE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAN THAT. >> Sean: WELL, UNDERSTOOD. THERE ARE. I WANT TO GET INTO -- >> Caitlyn: HONESTLY, SEAN. MY ISSUES, I'M STANDING ON MY BACK PORCH A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I'M WATCHING 200-FOOT PLANES COME IN, COMING UP THE HILL AT ME. WHY? 17 MILES AWAY, IN CHATSWORTH, A TRANSFORMER BLEW. A FEW HOURS LATER, TRAVELED 17 MILES, I HAD TO EVENTUALLY EVACUATE MY HOUSE, IT WAS SO INTENSE. WE HAD NOT HAD A BURN THERE IN 35 YEARS, IT WAS SO INTENSE. WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR GRID, OUR ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. I THINK THAT IS A POSITION, WE WORK WITH THE ELECTRICAL COMPANIES AND SACRAMENTO. I DON'T THINK SACRAMENTO AND THE TAXPAYER SHOULD DO ALL OF THAT, THEY ARE ALREADY PLAYING ENOUGH. >> Sean: THESE ROLLING BLACKOUTS, LIKE WILDFIRES -- >> Caitlyn: ROLLING BLACKOUTS, I PUT A GENERATOR IN MY HOUSE, EVERY TIME THE WIND BLOWS, THEY ARE AFRAID SOME SYSTEM WILL SPARK AND START A FIRE. WHEN I STOOD THERE WATCHING THIS FIRE COME AT ME, I NEVER SAW -- I LOVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I LOVE THESE GUYS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT WHEN IT WAS COMING IN MY HOUSE, I NEVER SAW ONE HELICOPTER, I NEVER SAW ONE FIRE TRUCK, I DIDN'T EVEN HEAR A SIREN. GRANTED, I LIVE IN A MORE RURAL AREA AND THEY WERE PROBABLY OVER PROTECTING MORE HOUSES, BUT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB, WE NEED AN EARLY DETECTION SYSTEM WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE. I SEE SO MANY OF THEM IN MALIBU, I LIVED THERE FOR 48 YEARS, AND THE BIGGEST THING IN THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THEY JUMP ON A FIRE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE AND PUT IT OUT WHEN IT IS SMALL. AND ONCE IT GETS AWAY FROM THEM, THEY CAN'T. >> Sean: WOULD YOU ALLOW CONTROLLED BURNS? >> Caitlyn: YES. >> Sean: ISN'T THERE A SCIENCE BEHIND FORESTRY? IS THAT SCIENCE BEING IGNORED IN THE STATE? >> Caitlyn: YES. >> Sean: I LIVE IN SANTA BARBARA, I WATCHED HOME BRANCH BURNED DOWN AFTER I JUST. >> Caitlyn: MANAGEMENT IS EXTREME IMPORTANCE. IT IS NOT EVEN FOREST MANAGEMENT, MY HOUSE, THE REASON MY HOUSE MADE IT IS BECAUSE THEY SAY YOU HAVE TO KEEP ANY BRUSH 50 OR 75 FEET -- I THINK I HAD 75 FEET CLEARANCE. IN THE FIRES CAME, THEY JUST WENT AROUND MY HOUSE SO FAST, IT WAS GONE, BECAUSE IT IS MOVING VERY FAST. SO IT IS ALL MOST THE SAME THING FOR FOREST MANAGEMENT, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF PREPARATION, YOU KNOW, AND MY HOUSE MADE IT. BUT FIVE HOUSES AROUND ME WERE BURNED TO THE GROUND, LIVES WERE DESTROYED. >> Sean: WE NOW WENT THROUGH THIS -- THIS WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC. VERY HUGE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN, SAY, RED STATES, FLORIDA, CALIFORNIA. WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY IF YOU WERE THE GOVERNOR, WITH COVID-19? >> Caitlyn: FIRST OF ALL, GAVIN NEWSOM COME ON THIS ISSUE, HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. OKAY? HE'S USED IT AS A POLITICAL TOOL IN THE STATE, TO SHUT IT DOWN, TO CONTROL PEOPLE, AND THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. HE'S DESTROYED BUSINESSES. THOUSANDS OF BUSINESSES WERE DESTROYED. RESTAURANTS DESTROYED. NOT BEING ABLE TO OPEN UP. HE SHOULD'VE DONE A BETTER JOB. I DON'T BLAME ANYONE, BACK IN MARCH OF 2020, I DON'T BLAME THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, FOR COMING DOWN AND SAYING "WE ARE GOING TO SHUT THIS COUNTRY DOWN BECKLEY," AND THEY DID. BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAD ANY IDEA HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE A POLITICAL GAME TO REOPEN. AS YOU SAID, SOME STATES HAVE DONE VERY WELL, MENTIONED FLORIDA. WE'VE DONE A TERRIBLE JOB. EASY EXAMPLE. FLORIDA, ORLANDO, DISNEY WORLD, OPENED UP NINE MONTHS AGO. ANAHEIM, DISNEYLAND, OPENED UP SIX DAYS AGO. WE ARE TALKING NINE MONTHS OF SHUTTING DISNEYLAND DOWN. WHEN IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE SHUT DOWN. AND THE LIST OF THAT GOES OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AND JUST ITS TOTAL MISMANAGEMENT OF THIS PROCESS. >> Sean: WOULD YOU COME IF YOU HAD TO PICK GOVERNORS IN THE COUNTRY, BECAUSE LIKE NEW YORK, NEWSOM, WHITMER, MURPHY, WOLF, THEY HAD EXECUTIVE ORDERS FOR NURSING HOMES, WHICH PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO TALK ABOUT, ARE THERE TWO OR THREE GOVERNORS THAT YOU THINK ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AT YOU IF YOU BECOME GOVERNOR -- >> Caitlyn: TEXAS IS DOING A GREAT JOB. HONESTLY, I WOULD'VE COORDINATED WITH THOSE PEOPLE. TALKING, WHAT IS WORKING FOR YOU, WHAT IS NOT WORKING FOR YOU? IT BECOMES -- AND I LOOK AT THE SUCCESSFUL ONES -- THEY HAVE ALL BEEN A COLLABORATION BETWEEN PRIVATE BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT. >> Sean: WOULD YOU OPEN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA COMPLETELY TOMORROW? >> Caitlyn: ABSOLUTELY. OPEN IT RIGHT UP. ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT -- >> Sean: JUST DON'T CLOSE IN-N-OUT BURGER BEFORE I LEAVE. >> Caitlyn: IT IS KIND OF ON A SMALL-SCALE WORKING ALREADY. ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, IT WAS RUMORED, RIGHTFULLY SO, IT WAS RUMORED THAT I WAS LOOKING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR. THE NEXT DAY, GAVIN NEWSOM HAS A PRESS CONFERENCE, SAYS THE STATE IS OPENING UP JULY 15TH. I'M LAYING THERE IN BED AND WATCHING THIS, AND I SAY, YES, IT'S ALREADY WORKING. YEAH. >> Sean: OH, BY THE WAY COME HE IS BLAMING THIS RECALL ON CUE IN ON, ANTI-FAXERS, AND ANTI-IMMIGRATION CITIZENS. >> Caitlyn: I AM PRO-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. >> Sean: PRO-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. >> Caitlyn: LEGAL IMMIGRATION, YES, PRO-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, SORRY, DID I MISS THE LEGAL PART? THANKS
