Building Emotional Infrastructure With Guru Singh

[Music] are we ready to go we're good good you're saying my friend it's good to see you really good to see you super nice to be back in the inner sanctum the sanctuary this is my third podcast in this room I know that you begin to be irregular I know I'm just gonna I should just call you up when I'm on this side of town or apart I need somebody I need someplace to do if I did okay we got it well the energy is so good in here and originally we had talked about you coming out to the house but the studio space that I have still isn't quite right and when I started to think about it I realized like well this is an amazing place to do this like what am i what am i fighting here oh yeah this is like a man cave of light yes a very specific type of man cave populated with lots of spiritual artifacts and many many frogs yeah frogs are you know frogs are what we all are were that we're born as one thing and then we evolved into who we are you know we're born is what we are and we evolved into who we are and that's what a frog is it's born as a fish and it then involves into a an amphibian mm-hmm that's able to breathe air yeah well I'm part in phibian so I relate to that I saw those photos fan if you had to run across an island then jump in the water and swim to the next Island and then yeah it was a crazy race in cold water and with your shoes on with your shoes on the whole time all day long ten hours and cific and yeah yeah and so then running in wet shoes is kind of blister territory isn't it it is I was lucky I didn't get any blisters but my shoes filled up with like sand and little pebbles and things like that and you're kind of running on that you just have to get comfortable with that discomfort because you could stop and empty them but they're just gonna fill up again the next time you jump in the water and run up you know the beach it's like her cell it was an experience for sure yeah it was cool and you guys did it in what how many hours 10 hours and 40 some-odd minutes and how many of those how much of that time were you actually in the cold water and what was the temperature of the water that was my biggest fear was how cold the water was going to be because all you need is one cold front one storm to blow in because you're so close to the Arctic Circle and it can completely change everything but the water ended up being like I don't know 56 or something somewhere around there so it was cold but not bone-chilling ly cold so you know you're in and out enough and then you're running and you're warming up and just when you warm up you jump back in the water again but actually on the longer runs that felt good to jump in the cold water so the temperature wasn't the limiting factor that the the most difficult part for me was just the technical terrain of the land because it was so rocky and slippery I mean you're on all fours climbing up these granite slabs and and kind of trudging through marshes where the water is almost up to your knees and you know it was more like The Amazing Race or something like that like then it was running it wasn't actual there wasn't that much actual running like a lot of it was bushwhacking and that really took its toll you know of course you know this really well that you spend three minutes or more in water under sixty degrees and you reset your metabolism you reset your glands and organs it's really really healthy yeah have you followed the work of wim HOF yeah yes yeah the Iceman yeah so I had him on the podcast talking all about that kind of stuff man yes he's totally devoted yeah well he's I mean at his core he's he's an ancient yogi that guy and he studied the practices of pranayama I mean its with him what's interesting is it's much more about breath work than it is about the cold the cold is what gets a lot of attention even all the kind of stunts that he does and and what he can do in cold water is amazing but the breath work is really rooted in the ancient traditions of the Yogi's he's found a vernacular to talk about it and teach it in a modern context where people can actually hear what he's saying he's had a huge impact and he's cool he's got great energy I mean he's Anatole I totally the Yogi's of the South Asian subcontinent in the south we're doing hot yoga year-round right because southern India is hot all the time and so they were doing what would be in the modern-day vernacular would be hot yoga and the the Yogi's that were in the Himalayas in the Himalayas you know they were doing it on snow sometimes right they would even have moments when they would sit and melt snow with their body and so yeah cold water is a big part even a big part of our lives because we do cold shower every morning to flush what happens is cold water you know the largest organ on your body is your skin mm-hmm and so when you get in cold water it contracts all the capillaries in your skin forcing massive amounts of blood inside the body if you leave it in there for three minutes that has completely flushed your glands and organs and now you're ready to go yeah literally ready to go yeah well anybody who doesn't knows you have this amazing you know rejuvenating feeling after you've experienced that yeah and yet you know it's still so hard to do what doesn't there's an old saying that no matter how long you wait the cold water never warms up it's it's that thing of playing in your head you know I was like waiting around for jumping in mm-hmm doing the plunge well you hear all these stories you know I don't know what's real and what's apocryphal about the ancient Yogi's going into the caves and not eating for you know however you know extraordinary periods of time and and just going into these you know breathitt Aryan fugue states or you know eons on end and yet the Iceman you know wim is really kind of doing this in front of cameras and with doctors and you know he injected himself with some kind of endotoxin and it had no effect on him and so it's cool that he's able to kind of carry that practice forward in a way that is visible for a mainstream audience and you know that you and I and others including him and many others your wife my wife etc are all you know reincarnation from ancient Yogi's anyway so you know we're just here from the future trying to get this planet up-to-date yeah and I'm learning a few lessons along the way I know imperfectly let me just ask you one specific question about that race what what did you start running or swimming the first leg was like a kilometer run okay and then and then a long swim and then a bunch of short little swims and runs hmm and then it kind of opens up later in the race there's a longer swim and the 13 mile run like late in the race but a lot of a lot of in and out um yeah what was the longest swim one point four kilometers I think yeah so all told it was about six miles of swimming and forty miles of running 75 oh that's a lot of time spent in 56 degree water yeah that was exuberant trust me I was tired when I was done but you know the Northern Europeans these guys are Vikings and you should see how they dance on these slippery rocks I was falling all over the place and landing on my butt and cursing and you know all of that and these guys are just dancing on these rocks like you know with incredible grace though I have a earning curve if I decide to go back to that race I have plenty plenty to plenty to go back to the drawing board on to improve do they do it yearly yeah I mean the guys that won our Swedish Armed Forces guys and from what I can tell a big part of their job is training for this race their training on the course they know exactly what rock you know to climb out on and you know they know it like the back of their hand so and it's a calden advantage yeah a little bit but you know it's a it's a really cool subculture and the race directors have injected this event and this sport which has grown with a really beautiful ethos of preservation and sustainability like they have or they have like a no litter policy if you drop you know any kind of like a gel or anything like that on the course and you get caught doing it you're just qualified like it's all about respecting the the beauty of this incredibly challenging and natural terrain hmm so it's cool are the islands inhabited they are but the population is very low and during the winter months like almost no one's out there like the island that we finished on I think it has a population of 40 or something like that you know in their tiny little islands so there's little cabins there and people have small farms and and I think it's like a very insulated community where people are living really simple lives and there's something really amazing about that yeah and you know that it was that part of the world and a bit further south that created the lifestyle that neither you nor I have any part of it being vegan but when you know the early migrations of pre humans and humans were adventuring through the the lands of what's now Europe and and Russia and have you and the Ice Ages struck food was destroyed and humans who are biologically plant-based beings right all of a sudden had to eat all these flesh foods so those are the areas they're really pristine they're really beautiful but if we were to be in a sustainable situation year around it probably wouldn't work out you know humans are incredibly adaptable though you know we're we we know how to survive there's plenty of things that we can eat to make it work but one thing I took away from that experience was noticing the happiness quotient in that part of the world and people who are living these simple lives are incredibly fulfilled and content and in contrast to you know Los Angeles or the way that we live like do live amazingly sustainable by comparison and that's something that you know I wanted to get into with you you know we've moved so far away from that biological imperative of living you know communally and connected with our neighbors and you know as you wrote recently in one of your morning prayers we're at what 7.3 billion people on the texas seven point five point five now it changed that much since our last checked it goes so quickly yeah and quickly approaching ten billion and with that we've been very good at creating physical infrastructure to support us through factory farms and super highways and mega cities and the like but where we have not been so good at maturing our emotional infrastructure can you imagine can you imagine a child in kindergarten first grade having a course in Courage having a course in confidence and then you know going out through second third fourth grade with those kinds of courses how about a course in mid-teens of dispute reconciliation mm-hmm I mean and actually have those courses equally as important as science math and all of the other things which are giving us our advanced technologies and cultures you know but we've advanced to such a degree in all those levels that you spoke of but our emotional body is still very primitive we're still reacting to each other and we still feel a threat in the difference that we perceive look at how many people across the world still actually believe that the paint job on our body means something right the color of our skin and how many people feel that their that their lives and their lifestyles are threatened by the difference of someone else's lifestyle and these are just emotional opportunities for us to really enable that which you said was ten billion people on this planet you know to live in harmony because if we have problems with the numbers that we have today we're not going to get anywhere close to ten million before we pull the plug on it yeah it is optimistic as I am by nature there's a bleakness this veneer of bleakness that kind of covers everything and definitely infuses my perspective of it and informed by you know the unbelievably divisive society that we find ourselves in right now you know it seems as if we should have matured past our differences over our paint jobs and yet that seems to be coming up as you know one of the biggest issues once again like how can we not have overcome this by this point well I look at it as the people like us you and I and our families and our circles are the ones that are in need of showing up and to me this world is like a one-room schoolhouse or as I've now started to call it a one-room daycare center I think you know I've downsized the I've downsized the metaphor door downgraded the metaphor if we are that one-room schoolhouse we look across the planet and we see people that are all seemingly physical adults and many of whom are emotionally not mature the consideration of skin color sexual orientation gender etc is all just an immaturity of the emotional body when we find that being a fabric of judgment and when you have that what you're looking at is okay everybody is showing up but it's kind of like Lord of the Flies where it's all haphazard and people like us need to turn it into a more appropriate setting you know in a gentle way I look at it is that we've got about you know 3035 years before the bell curve starts to slide down the the backside and in those 30 to 35 years we will need to you know that gives us enough time but we will need to multiply ourselves not in reproduction but in in actual information dissemination where people are understanding that it's their fulfillment that gives us a sense of that gives them a sense of being able to sit in the presence of something that is completely different than they are and not feel threatened when you have Chinese call it Chi in in yoga we call it prana in English it's called lifeforce you have it all the time when you have that sensation that you have at the end of a race not that you're completely exhausted from but that you're really exhilarated from that is a life force that is moving in you and that is really fulfilling you and when you walk in that state of grace and any of these differentials different differentiating factors are in front of you you see them as all similars all similarities and that's what we need to teach people to do is how to not just pacify themselves with food not just pacify themselves with comfort but to really activate you know right down to the cellular structure and open up their their mental capacities so that this emotional body can fulfill itself in a presence that is so profound that no amount of difference is a differentiation but we're in a zero-sum game you know that's the game most people are playing like there's only so much going around and now this sense of lack and urgency seems to be heightened right so if you have then I have not or your threat to what I potentially can have or he has more I want what he has so there's a lot of a lot of mental barriers that we have to overcome to reframe the paradigm about how we're sort of living our lives on a daily basis right I mean we're being stoked by fear everywhere we turn even the billboards when we drive down the streets here the messaging is diffuse and everywhere and it becomes almost impossible to kind of escape the the clutches of the culture that wants to hold us in this place of being afraid of judging ourselves by what we have and not and don't have in comparison to our neighbors and I think this is you know wedging this divide that is being you know stoked by our governments and people who are lining up on both sides to fight this battle that is just pushing us further and further apart from the solution there's a great study and a and a series of books it's called M brain and the M stands for multi there's and doctors are talking about the brain in your gut and they have neurology in the heart and they're talking about the brain in your heart and then there's the brain in your head well the brain in your gut is what connects it either connects you with nourishment it's how you digest food the brain in the heart has a unique quality because it it actually encompasses both the heart and the lungs and both the heart and the lungs exert to give and then have to completely relax to receive the brain in the head is all we educate and the brain in the head is analysis differentiation is very two-dimensional it's very right wrong good bad yes No so if all I'm doing is walking around with the brain in my head educated and I'm a bit ignoring all the other brains then I am unfulfilled and I am seeing that what you have I want I am seeing that you having it means that I can't have it and there's a limited zero sum factor involved but if I'm connected with my gut if you and I are connecting at the gut level which is where you get your gut you know sensation then what you have I have and your happiness is actually my happiness think about the heart brain which is one of the most interesting factors and that is that in order to receive I have to completely relax most people are in this world and they're getting in other words they're striving to get striving to get striving to get well if you're always in that hyper tense striving to get you never receive and so if I never receive what I've gotten that I'm always going to need to get more and this is where greed comes from this is where overconsumption comes from this is why we're deforesting the entire planet I like that analogy of the heart and the lungs because that's that's true the exertion is in the giving like if you're by extension in a place of using your your your willpower your energy your chi or prana you my force and channeling that into providing for others giving of yourself then when you relax that's when it comes back to you your lungs are naturally open a collapsed lung is a big serious event but when you're running your effort and breathing is on the exhale mm-hmm and your inhale it actually happens naturally and the same thing happens in your heart the effort is in the pumping the blood into the body and then when it completely relaxes that swell of blood that's been pushed out into the body comes rushing back into the heart I like the idea of you know focusing on these different brains the heart brain acacia brain but our education system is about the head brain head brain oh that's it and what I've experienced and what I've seen other people experience is when you lead your life by by your head brain and you're ignoring the other brains you end up with some form of disease either mental emotional or physical think about the kids that are no longer able to cope with school and it's the numbers are rising and these are the kids that go out into the world and they have great relationships and they have great this and great that they innovate they're entrepreneurs I mean look at the biggest corporate corporations in the world right now are all being CEO die college dropouts and the bottom line here is is that kids these days need that education on all three brains in order for them to experience fulfillment when we educate the gut brain the gut brain is all about connections so we would have courses in school about connecting with each other and what we would also do is we would have collective testing in other words we train kids throughout school to do their work on their own to hide their answers to do it privately don't share anything and the moment they get out in the world everything is about you the need to share and the people that are the most resistance to sharing are the ones that isolate themselves they're the ones that end up being emotionally unstable and then you have things like what's going on you know with mass shootings and and all of this violence that's being created these are people with unfulfilled gut and unfulfilled heart they may be able to analyze things perfectly with their head but the other parts of their being are just not in functions or not in balance yeah I mean I want to get into the mass shooting thing but before we get into that like a couple observations you know I think that we have an education system that has essentially remained unchanged since the Victorian era totally predates the or sort of you know the way we teach kids now kind of came out of the Industrial Revolution and it was training young people to prepare themselves for the job market at that time and it's kind of stayed stuck in that well you know they fight all everything we've learned about psychology and education and motivation and all of these things like we have not been able to evolve how we are raising our children in the classroom and we pay the teachers the least mm-hmm so we get those who are not necessarily striving to be extremely successful but they say that if you took professionals from 200 years ago including teachers and dropped him in the world of today like lawyers doctors engineers what have you the only one that would recognize their jobs the teacher because nothing's changed in education but everything else has so we're educating children for a world that doesn't exist anymore the world has definitely changed dramatically and that's a huge that's a huge problem and it is interesting that so many innovators you know are people that had the the audacity the gall to step you know one step to the left or three steps to the left and opt out of that system which has allowed them to you know think more freely and unrestrained yeah Microsoft was started by a dropout Apple was started by a dropout you know all of these other major corporations were started by dropouts and the end result is is that they figured something out that wasn't going to be taught in that educational system right my daughter's go to you know a very progressive school that in certain respects is innovating in certain ways and trying different and new things and yet the other day my ten-year-old came home and said that they ran a drill at her school where they had to prepare for what would happen if there was a mass shooting and it just crushed me it just it broke my heart that my ten-year-old daughter had to think about that as a possibility and prepare for it and put that into her brain because all of a sudden fear factor is going to be dominant mice our son went to a school that you would take everybody graduated with straight A's and here's how they did it it was not about testing was about teaching so if you took a test first of all you only took one course other than English and PE PE was everyday physical exercise was a mandatory event and you took English and then you took one other course with and you would finish a course in a month or six weeks it was because you were really focused on it you take a test you get 60% on the test well most people that would be a flunk set aside the 60% you start studying the 40% take the test again whatever you pass you set it aside take the test again until you're down to what you know every single piece on that original test and not only that but you were twinning you were twinning with somebody else and being able to bounce ideas off of them so that they were training you to work together and to never accept failure right cooperation and teamwork that seems like a much better way of doing it you know the idea of depth over breadth but now it's just we got us you know it's like a rock skipping across the surface of water or like they're moving so quickly through so many subject matters so rapidly but only dipping you know centimeter beneath the surface on every single thing so that you know the child takes the test and they're on to the next thing and they've forgotten what they you know did like I don't remember anything that I studied in high school I took AP calculus I I don't know what calculus is can you imagine if as a facet professional from nine to ten you were one career and from 10 to 11 you were a different career and from 11 to 12 you were another career and then you went to lunch and then you did three different careers after lunch not a good idea yeah there's a school in Russia I forget what it's called there was a documentary made about it and I think it's called the school if I could be wrong about that but it's this experimental school where all the kids irrespective of age and grade are kind of cohabitating and and in the same classroom where the younger students are helped by the older students and they do just that they pick one subject and they go super deep into it and they all cooperate help each other until everybody's mastered it and they don't move on until they've kind of conquered that and then they go on to the next thing so it's very focused on one specific thing and group effort collective effort you know they say that if you want to learn something read about it or listen to it which is good for these podcasts if you want to know something write about it and if you want to master something teach about it and so a system such as that one you just described would have all of those things you would have it would have reading writing and teaching because the Younger would teach the older the older would teach the younger and the mastery would be phenomenal let's get back to the mass shooting thing so there was this shooting in Texas just the other day and this is the second one and you know how are the two weeks or a week and a half or something like that the rapidity the frequency of these tragic unbelievably violent acts is accelerating and this is unprecedented I think those were like the last two or two of the most devastating violence in the last 35 or something like that what is happening in our culture why is this going on and what is the the malaise the sickness that lies at the the core the locus of what's going on in our culture that's leading to this and why is it happening now if you look around the world and you you see industrialized and I use quotations civilized nations the only one that is having this kind that isn't at war that there isn't an actual war being fought on their soil so that takes away Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan and those places that are you know there's serious combat taking place but you think of the United States in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and and Russia and UK and France and Germany and all of the other countries around the world there is only one country in what this is happening at this level and you got to realize that America is more than a nation is a commercial organization and so Commerce will take precedence over health with the only major nation that has created an industry out of healthcare in which there's profit in a company when a person gets sick and so that really changes the game we're the only country that has this free form of weapons that can just be sold in in shows and unregulated circumstances and somebody supposedly has a database that checks background checks are run through but then it was a UPS we forgot to register this guy's violent nature with the database and the oops is always on the side of commerce because anytime there's a mass shooting the sale of weapons and the sale of bullets and the sale of all of these things goes skyrocketing and the stock prices of the publicly traded weapons companies goes skyrocketing and all of this incredible capitalists and I'm not saying there's something wrong with capitalism but there's something wrong with having capitalistic needs over human needs of health and and actual safety so we have a country that is focused on the marketplace more so than any other country on Earth therefore it demonstrates its ability you said something about the happiness factor of the people where you were running is much higher the happiness factor in America is very very low because we are focused on capital markets rather than collective health collective well-being family unity etc yeah I think that all of that is correct and right and I would agree with that and I think also you know beneath the surface of that or as you dig deeper it is about the disconnection you know this is this is an illness not just of the human beings that are perpetrating these acts but an illness of our culture right it is a dis ease that I think is being driven by dissatisfaction and depression and disconnection because of the way that we lead our lives like if we were living in a communal you know village based society where there is accountability and there's joint purpose and there is a collective understanding about how every in each and every person is contributing then I don't think that you see these things because even in these war-torn parts of the world where firearms are you know proliferate and there's plenty of guns around they're not going into their own communities and and decimating people you know that's just not happening so fundamentally the individual who is the perpetrator of these acts is almost in an agent or an example of a larger malaise that I think is is is a chronic condition of an indicator of where we are at as a culture if we were educating children as an emotional creature as well as as a mental creature we do a little bit of physical education very little the diet is terrible across the board but if we were to check out the physical education check out the emotional education as much as we focus on the mental education then what you're saying wouldn't be taking place because connection would be paramount my connection with my when my friends would be graded as high as my observation of makes calculus like that you can't remember calculus and yet you were an AP calculus that means you were an Advanced Placement calculus right you know I can't remember things that I studied either and most of those things were crammed the night before because you were having too much fun doing the other things that should have been covered in education to just spend all of your time studying the idea that we could educate children to be able to you know when when the pressure builds up inside because these guys are explosive and that's why they're shooting the guy that's shooting from Las Vegas he's exploding that's why he's shooting it's an expression of who he is if we could create an opportunity so that we could see the explosion beginning to rise in each other and do the things that comrades that that fellow human beings do for each other be like grazing animals rather than by territorial carnivores and I take it back to our diet again the only creatures on the planet that are territorial are carnivores they mark their territory they protect their territory herbivores share their territory and they love it when they are grazing together so taking it from the physical level of diet moving that into the emotional level because when you eat blood food you become aggressive the blood is forced between your teeth and your gum and there's sensitive nerves in there that when you get blood forced up in there you feel like you're dominating your environment and this is just something we're not prepared for as herbivores the human being is a plant based biology and it is not prepared to feast on blood it is not prepared to have those kinds of aggressive attitudes and then put that together with complete lack of emotional education you have this brilliant creature who's super aggressive emotionally unstable and now he can go to the corner store and buy a gun this is an AB saluté mess and nothing has it more advanced than this country the u.s. oh it's been completely systematized mmm you know and it's it's a display of utter desperation on these these people who are in tremendous pain who feel like they've been passed over and they're not being heard and the only way to be heard is to perpetrate an act so horrible and the amount of pain that that person must be carrying in order to do that and then the way the media covers it just perpetuates the cycle because it plants the seed and the next person who's coming down the assembly line who's feeling the same way and sees that is the only way to get some level of public validation on the way out recognition yeah it's great become a superstar on the on the subject of taking in you know eating animals and and and and what that does to us spiritually and emotionally you know Julie always says like if you're eating the animal you're taking that violence into your body there's no way that that can't be impacting you on not just a you know a cellular level but an emotional unconscious level and I was just at this conference in Austin the other month it was like the conscious capitalism conference and they're always amazing CEOs there who are socially minded who are trying to do good in the world it was really inspiring and I met this one guy this doctor dr. Zach Busch who is an epidemiologist by trade and he's done all these incredible studies and I got into this this is a guy I've got to get on the podcast he wasn't like he was blowing my mind but he was telling me about studies that he's conducted in-depth detailed analysis of what happens to you physiologically when you eat meat and taking in like the you know when they when they kill these animals and they're terrified of course when they're being killed they're in a hyper this hyper acute emotional state where the hormones are raging and so that in turn when you take that into your body or your teeth those hormones and the only he's been able to gauge like the impact of that on your own and you're in your endocrine system is human body and how that translates into you know Aaron's behavior it was wild I mean he can say it much more intelligently than I but it's chemicals and those chemicals don't don't die those chemicals aren't even cooked out of the food so the you are just saying the animal is in a heightened state of terror heightened state of Rage now you're eating terror and rage and some protein and that's all the meat is and we don't need to be eating this because there is as you know I mean we're obviously talking to the audience here not to each other but if the fact is is that when our bodies are trained you can't do this overnight but when your body is trained to break down vegetable protein into its individual aminos and then reassemble it into an animal-based protein it's actually working out it's like lifting weights it's like your spleen is lifting weights your your kidneys are lifting weights your liver is lifting weights everything is exercising when you just put in all ready-made protein already produce protein and with it you're putting in those chemistry company components of fear and rage and terror and betrayal I mean we're raising these animals they're like pets well they're pets in captivity and a very cruel in the state but they're being taken care of and then all of a sudden we come in and we slaughter them Yogi's throughout history have said that killing an animal out of necessity and killing it with respect has a certain validity but raising an animal and then slaughtering it has has such an effect upon the human psyche that it actually turns you into a murderer even if you're not the one that has been murdering all these animals you're letting slaughterhouses do it you're eating the chemistry of murder so you're becoming a murderer Mahatma Gandhi was once in jail of many times he was in jail and suddenly he started to have these murderous thoughts and so he sat with him in deep meditation and it came to him that well perhaps there was somebody that was involved with his food that had some of these kinds of thoughts and he found out that the guy that was the main cook in the kitchen was in jail for murder so all of these components are very subtle you talked about the doctor dr. Bush in at the conference the endocrine system is a ductless system in other words the transmission between the endocrine glands is happening on a on an electromagnetic basis as well as on a chemical basis and so there's radio waves going in our systems radio waves going between our systems and if I'm preparing food I've got radio waves from my attitude going into the food in the Buddhist tradition they always had the highest monk being the cook and then everybody was eating the highest food that could be that could be prepared yeah Julie always tells a funny story about a yoga retreat that we went on when we were when we had first met and we would go to the center and it was this place nearby and it would be all vegan food and the food like looked delicious but everybody got sick or everybody just felt terrible after eating this food and it turned out that the person who was preparing this food was just a very unhappy angry person and so you know she she was in injecting the meal with all of that angst and energy it seems like oh yeah well this is a crazy hippie idea or whatever by totally rillette but I think that there's truth in that and so Julie's always like you know look you can prepare the most beautiful plant-based meal but if you don't prepare it with the right mindfulness and spirit and approach then you're missing the point and what was great about dr. Bush is like look you're you're your guru Singh you're your Sikh yogi no musician guy I I guess I'm a hippie I don't know but like this Zach Busch guy he's like legit not a hippie at all like not a he's not a vegan activist or anything like that like he's just like this is what the science is showing me yeah well that's what we're going to need to convince the convinced able and not everybody is convinced about you know it's a one-room schoolhouse once again and we go through many lifetimes in many incarnations and some of those incarnations are on this earth and some of them are on other planets that are like this earth and those of us that have been into the future which means we've come from planets that are ten years a hundred years a thousand years ten thousand a million years more advanced than this one and we come back to this planet we are actually from the future and we're the ones that are actually the ones that are responsible for this one-room schoolhouse is one room daycare center we're the ones that need to show up I feel that we're the ones that are responsible for the mess because we're the ones that are responsible for cleaning up the mess and we're the ones that have to show up in big numbers I mean big numbers in terms of what it's possible is somewhere in the neighborhood of you know 22 million right now 22 23 million but with our awareness we could shift this planet so remarkably think about it the the iPhone has now been around for 10 years and everyone on the planet is totally screen fixated think about what it would be like if we were a hundred years in the future and what we would have advanced to we may have already gone through the crises that we're going through here on earth we might have already gone through the collapse of society that we may be experiencing in the near future on earth and we've come out the other side so we've lived on those planets we know the secrets of how to get through it we've been sent back to here in another incarnation to kind of cross pollinate that awareness now it's our job to awaken that awareness inside of us and we we do awaken it by going on crazy the races in the Baltic Sea we do awaken it by in deep meditation we do awaken it by doing yoga we awaken it through all these methods we're the ones that need to show up because we have to then take like an adult would in a in a daycare centre when two kids are squabbling only in this world they're squabbling with weapons and throw our arms around both of them and say okay we're gonna take a timeout we're gonna go walk out in the fields and however we end up doing that we may not even know just like 50 years ago a touch screen was unthought-of and now a touch screen is in everyone's pocket so the technology of how we will emotionally take care of that move we may not know yet but if we really force ourselves into a corner we're going to discover that means and that's what I'm working for I'm working for discovering the means of creating the impossible the ability to go into really really high tense situations and find peace in fine calm and so how does one comport themselves if we take a case study let's take the shooting at the church the other day right and given the fact that we're all screen obsessed and everyone's staring at their iPhone you know what I spend a lot of time thinking about is how do i leverage the platform that I have and the audience that I have to communicate in a way that can sort of elevate the conversation and raise the frequency beyond thoughts and prayers or by taking aside and pushing back and fighting and so what happens to me is I don't really know how to navigate that in the best way and so often I end up remaining silent on issues that I have an opinion on or perhaps I could provide a perspective that would be helpful but I'm not sure the best strategy for approaching that and being an age like sort of trying to be that that that agent of positive change well I think being silent is sometimes very helpful because another opinion isn't necessarily the answer and so I am I'm with you on that I look at it in these kinds of realistic terms and some of it seems realistic to the listener and some of it will seem a little bit of a stretch but Abby is leaving the hive and it's in need of a flower and so it flies into the air and it has there's pheromones in the air there's fragrances in the air there's colours in the air there's all of this that are coming from around its environment the environment can be a few miles away but the bee is still sensitive enough to be able to pick up on those messages the fragrance messages and the color messages and it follows those tracks because the color from the light that's coming from the flower is in the air is is in the the track that the bee is going to be following the pheromones from the flower just like a dog can smell a lot more than we can the bee can smell so it follows those pathways and it finds the flower what if many of us were so aware so acute just like the bee that we could smell an unresolved violent temperament arising in some location nearby and we would then be attracted to that circumstance which is in this case a person that is starting to stockpile guns because they're not resolving their angst they're not resolving their anger and their rage and their fear and their separation within themselves and so all of a sudden these millions of people I call it millions of avatars millions of messiahs throughout the planet and I'm saying the next several decades are going to be used to build that and that we can actually sense who in our community is is feeling this way and we could go up to them and be an answer there was a great story about a school in the mid-south somewhere like Tennessee Kentucky a few years back and a lady was working the front desk and this lady working the front desk suddenly sees this guy with a couple of weapons standing in front of her and she went into a state of shock and a state of shock is the literally you out-of-body experience and the reason they call it an out-of-body experience is because you actually go into an etheric consciousness you go into a precursor of consciousness like a Precog if from the movie Minority Report and you all of a sudden you are in that that precognition of realizing that there is a condition that you're working with and she said that when she started talking she didn't know who was talking inside of her but she started to communicate words to the gunman that were very soothing to him very understanding for him and in about three to five minutes the gunman was setting down the guns and saying I want you to call the police I've just about done something that I would have terribly regretted so she went into this altered state and literally engulfed this person in what love that we've never kind of experienced and she brought him down she brought him down from that heightened state of anxiety that heightened state of disconnection to where he just said calling the authorities because I want to be controlled now and this is what I'm talking about that we would become aware of where those situations are happening they could be happening three miles away but we would be called to it we would then be able to be in that state of really a state of a channeling kind of bringing in the love bringing in the understanding now the Buddha had a great prayer places I am to go I shall go people I'm to meet I shall meet things I am to say I shall say that which I am to achieve I shall achieve and to be in that state of just that pure channel of love being able to assist somebody that as you've said prior they're in desperate need the perpetrator of these crimes is in desperate need and if somebody could get to them before they got to their act that would be the state of grace and that requires a level of connectivity I think that were that we're lacking right now you know I think Los Angeles is perhaps the greatest example of you know dispersed individuality because we're all in our cars and we you know we it's such a sprawling you know place where it's very difficult to connect with other people you know and to not know what your neighbor is doing or even know their names and and bridging that gap I think requires not only you know going back to what you said earlier about really connecting with with that you know that gut in that in that heart brain in order to develop that awareness because I think if you're if you're really present with an individual and you can get past your thinking brain and you're just with them and you're looking at them their eyes are telling you yeah but everything is there like we were in Julie and I were in Miami the other day and we had a dinner with a bunch of people and we sat next to this guy who's sort of jokingly saying that that that that that he could like you know read minds or what he was empathic in a certain way and he and he started to say this is you know who you think you are but this is what's really going on with you and he and he's and he was very accurate like and he did it with a couple people but you know he was just sort of being a Mentalist because he was paying attention and I think we're all wearing that on our face the signals are there but instead we're gazing at our phones and were in our cars and were you know on Twitter or we're doing what we're doing and that disconnection is only widening rather than rather than shortening every power that any human being has ever had here on earth is in every single one of us waiting to be activated it's like you have almost the identical genealogy that I do as the identical genealogy is everybody does we're like within micrometers of our DNA and yet which one is activated in you it's brown eyes and me it's blue eyes etc which one is activated in our let's call it super powers the super powers of the Buddha the super powers of Lord Krishna the super powers of Mohammed the super powers of Jesus and super powers of Zoroaster of all of these incredible human beings that have walked the planet at one time or another exist within every one of us every one of those super powers and therefore it's time not for another great leader it's time for great leadership and that means that all of us who have an inclination to sort of question the current way things are going and not try to get on to it right and get ahead of it but actually to get under it and and and stand under it and understand it and support it you could develop I can develop all of these super powers and I'm not talking about we need to walk on water which would have been very helpful in your race if I spent a little more time with you yeah we got it but what I'm talking about is the super power of compassion the super power of empathy that let me not necessarily read your mind in a in a kind of in a small way but let's let me read your being and let me find out is there anything that I can do for you being of service this is what is going to have to take place on earth it's time for a superhuman race which is going to arise out of the existing human race the kids that are graduate students in the game of life in the school of life are going to have to rise to the occasion and really set the pace right now those of us that are in these kinds of podcasts are you know thought of us you called yourself a hippie or they say woowoo you know and all of this I don't think of any of this stuff as woowoo I think of it as all just pure science and technology well the science is always present and all of your lectures and sermons and in your daily prayers like you're always talking about physics and biochemistry and it's interesting I think that's important right like you're super into science I am right there's one that's going to come out as a matter of fact I was working on it this morning so it's coming out in a few days they have discovered a crystal out in deep space that's actually a quantum crystal it's like so tiny it's not even nano you know and Nana was six carbon atoms this thing is below the atomic structure that quantum crystals that do not apply themselves to the Newton's third law of motion which is for every action there's an equal reaction and that which is in motion tends to stay in motion this thing the moment an action takes place on it it multiplies the action you know like in multiples of thousands and so an action has a reaction of phenomenon this is the exact same quantum crystal that is in our spinal fluid and the fluid around all of our ganglia our nerve centers which is our brain our spine the gut and the heart and this is that these are those nano crystals through which the light of consciousness shines and literally when you have the awareness to align all of this which is exactly what happens when you're in the zone that you get into when you're running when you've passed through hitting the wall in a marathon that sensation or remember sleepy Floyd of the Golden State Warriors mm-hmm and he like his average points per night was this was like decades it was a long time ago 13 points a night was his average in one night he hit 55 points and they said to him so what happened he said I No he said I'd dribble down the court and the bat the basket was as wide as the whole court no matter where I threw it it went through and that's literally being in the zone where the conditions of your sensory system alter so that they're in complete control of your muscles well you're transcending the thinking mind exactly overcome that brain exactly where time kind of fades away and space gets distorted well yeah and it gets distorted in the way of your intention his intention was to make baskets our intention is to you know calm people of the hell well in a macro that is God bleeped you can say whatever you want there that's a podcast there's no there's no network here there's no middleman or intermediaries say whatever you want I think that as trite as it sounds in the most macro sense it is you know look we've all been told this and intellectually perhaps we understand it that you know we walk around with blinders thinking about ourselves we're self-obsessed we're focused on me and my path and what I'm trying to get and achieve when in reality there is no there is no disconnection between any of us and we truly are one we're one living breathing organism on this spinning globe then spiraling through space as a spaceship you know you know that's the truth of the matter right and we have such difficulty as human beings like recognizing that fundamental aspect of our shared destiny right and the more that we can connect with that that gives space to develop and breathe that level of empathy with our with our fellow humans but there's something about the way that we're wired and perhaps it's about the culture in which we're raised where we not only forget about that where it we we deny that very essential truth right so if we can cultivate a greater awareness around that then I think we can be more empathetic more can and perhaps more able to sense that person who is in pain and and and needs that help but how do we how do we how do we overcome the massive forces of our culture that want to keep us in that space of mimimi and what am I gonna get etc you know we feed our self we breathe our self and these are the functions that we have made important we have made it important that I have my air that I have my food that I have my house that I have my car that I have my life that I have my job and all of these problems and my problems and all of these my orientations have become what we educate the head brain to achieve the answers to but in fact when you sit in a consciousness that is expanded when you sit in a consciousness that has an awareness of what you were just talking about that we are in fact one being on this planet the spaceship sailing through the Stars you break that down what we are is we are an electromagnetic event you're an electromagnetic event I'm an electromagnetic event and what you have done is you have gathered the density of body around your electro magnetics I have gathered the density of body around my electro magnetics what we have gathered that density from is the ocean of potential matter in which we live so we are all bringing our body from the same ocean of potential matter and in that we are all one it's almost as if there's this fluid that then becomes a gel that then becomes ice and it gets more and more solid as it becomes rich as it becomes guru Singh and so we are sharing matter and we are looking out from the of our conscious awareness in this vehicle that appears to be me and appears to be you but in fact it's we and that were just two perspectives I looked at a joke the other day a cartoon and it was a big nine to one side and a big 6 to the other side and it the title under the cartoon was matter of perspective and that's what when you say mine right and you're referring to yours if I was in your perspective if I put myself in your shoes it would serve me and vice versa and so here we are were these electromagnetic beings that have consolidated the matter around our center core but that matter that we have consolidated is mutual and so your health is going to improve my health your well-being improves my well-being this is the awareness that we have to teach kids from the age of three four five and so that throughout their lives they're working for each other and with each other not competing at each other right that was the subject of one of your other daily prayers right it was like cooperation cooperation for competition mm-hmm well I understand that there can be friendly competition just to make you better right at what you do but that's you know the most unfriendly of all competitions is war mm-hmm you know but every other competition could just make you better at what you do make your body better make your mind better make your emotions better well I mean sports is a vehicle for teaching cooperation and teamwork through competition so they're not necessarily you know mutually exclusive and correct in a binary way correct and the the key here is that we are all one and you know philosophically speaking it's a nice phrase oh yeah we're all one you know but if you break it down to where it's actual science we are all one we are I mean think of it in terms of the the cells came together right the the one-celled animals came together in the first multi-celled animals were called colonies they all ate for their cell they all [ __ ] for their self they all lived and died for their cell and then pretty soon what they did was they started forming specialties and so some became the the eaters some became the the blood circulators some became the respirators and that became a multi-celled animal well right now we're at a place where we're so numerous as single individuals that we're going to have to start working with and for each other otherwise we can't continue to be at each other but in certain respects we are as human beings almost like the red blood cells of these larger organisms that we call cities societies yeah if you if you're flying on an airplane and you look down on Los Angeles it's like a giant virus on the planet that's being fueled you know and feet and fed by human beings running around moving things around for isn't it crazy to see that say it's like you're going on landing in that and we are we are innovating our replacement through through technology you know the advent of artificial intelligence is starting to is starting to you know come online here and that presents a very interesting conundrum for the human condition so do you think we are literally you know creating the next evolution of the human beings that perhaps will render us irrelevant and maybe maybe that's a good thing I don't know I mean but but this is happening did you see where Saudi Arabia just granted citizenship to the robot yeah I did and these robots are basically domestic servants they're the ones that will take care of your house but they have a vote and they have they have that citizenship that autonomy as a citizen of the country yeah I mean that's an interest I mean it that's a bit of a stunt especially in a part of the that still has a lot of challenges with human rights inequality and all of that but you know even beyond that just the idea that there that we are creating sentience in a way that we don't consider life because it's not based on organ systems as we understand it but perhaps is just a new form of life that we have never conceptualized before like the tadpole turning into the frog do you know that that particular yes and out of intense request which is the nature of crisis crisis is an intense request for some kind of change so yes in some of those countries where they are quite backward in their relationship between the gender right between men and women quite backward in their relationship to sexual orientation quite backward in their relationship to who does the heavy lifting in the society wouldn't it be wouldn't it stand a reason that they might have the most extreme anomaly that would take place like granting citizenship to something that doesn't have an actual beating heart and that that what happened all those billion years ago when the single-celled creature started to team up with another one and then all the single-celled creatures of consciousness around it went hey that's not real that's just that's just you know two people two things teaming up and but it kept progressing and it kept progressing you know the doctors now are saying okay well you have an artificial lung or you have an artificial this or you have a kidney transplant so who are you are that you the if you've had all your organs transplanted from somebody else who are you are you the transplant or or you're the transplant II and who is existing in and what is consciousness and so what we have to now realize is that okay there may be intelligence in an artificial way is there consciousness and that's what we have to realize is that an intelligent being may not be a conscious being and an unconscious being may not have the empathy so we could be creating intelligence that has the ability to function in a an outstanding way I mean they're there they've created soldiers that can't be destroyed you know like the the Terminator kind of thing but if it doesn't have consciousness if it doesn't have empathy if it doesn't have compassion if it done that any of these things stopping its activities what will we end up with and that's what happened by the way to those cultures throughout the stellar systems that have destroyed their planets as a thought experiment though similar to the one of you know the old one about the boat if you replace a plank by plank at what point is it still your boat or is it a different boat similarly if you take a I and it continues to iterate and it continues to develop and it becomes better and better and better as a predictor of human behavior and it becomes so masterful at basically being able to outwit outsmart out answer any human being and mimic empathy and happiness and sadness and depression that it becomes so indistinguishable from a human being at what point if it continues to iterate and iterate can we say that on some level it does have consciousness and how does that make you think about what consciousness is and is not that was a heavy one it reminded me of MA it reminded me of Monty Python yeah guy comes ashore sticks a stick in the ground with a piece of cloth waving on it he says I hereby claim this land as far as it travels for the Emperor the low voice comes out of the bushes yeah but what about us we've been here for ten thousand years and he kind of looks around dumbfound then he said yes but do you have a flag right so what is consciousness right what is that and can that can that creature reproduce itself or does it have to be produced can it rebuild itself let's let's presume that it can and that it becomes so adept at it that it becomes self-improving and when you apply Moore's law to that it continues to replicate and improve and produce that rate so quick that before a blink of an eye it's you know taking all the times better than it was ten minutes ago and there are planets throughout space because this is not just a single universe I think we spoke about that before but it's just divots and a mega verse and every universe thinks it's the only one because they can't see anywhere beyond itself but there are ancient ancient ancient universes that have already gone through what you just described and it will be interesting to travel in our conscious awareness to those places to get the answer to your question because there is that going on because if it can be thought of here it's been thought of in many places you know I always look at this place that you know they call it infinity right and it's got to be infinite because if it's not it's got to stop someplace and if it stops someplace then there's got to be something on the other side of the stop and so it just has to keep stopping and starting and keep going and stopping and starting and keep going so it's infinite no matter how you break get down in someplace in this infinite event what you just described is taking place full force and the only way to know the answer to your question specifically is to go visit those places and the only way to visit those places currently is to visit them in your meditative consciousness in a deep deep deep way then it would take some effort but I'm sure that we could come up with the answer to that yeah you haven't visited there yet not that specific one you saw the expression on my face I loved where you were going with that I just that was fascinating because you know who's ever who's ever I mean obviously scientists are thinking along those lines and and you've probably had conversations with some of those people that are extending themselves in that direction it's it's real it's very real it's converse it's a conversation we need to be having because as much as our you know human condition is to you know biologically reproduce it's become just as much about continuing to technologically innovate right and no matter how many stopgaps or you know conversations we have about is this the right thing to do or not or not to do it's happening like it's just we can't stop it whether it's gene sequencing and what's going on with CRISPR and whose craziness like hmm it's gonna get really weird pretty soon I mean it's already getting weird but like when my little girls are you know 40 and 50 years old I can't even begin to fathom what the world is gonna look like it right still we're talking the iPhone 10 years old and now you've just multiplied that times four or five and the advances that will take place and by the way when we're talking about what you were just saying in the AI and and the betterment and the self betterment and the in the mimicry of compassion and empathy and all of those things we're not just talking about something being made out of non organic matter we could be we could be reproducing these things at a biomatter and we could be reproducing these things out of waste matter and and this this could then become a full-fledged biological entity that's able to reproduce itself kind of germ-free mm-hmm I don't even know if it matters whether it's biological or non-organic inorganic I think we have to expand our thinking about what we what we contemplate as life and in organics could sure eliminate the problem with virus and bacteria yeah why it's perhaps a more perfect system we shall see it right but here's this is a doorway okay stay - there's no mushrooms involved around here right we just filled with frogs but shifting gears a little bit I wanted to talk a little bit about about boundaries like as somebody who you know we talked earlier a little bit about shouldering the responsibility to carry you know positive frequency and be an agent of positive change through empathy and connection and things like that but there there also is it's also important to have discernment about this just because you're it's not like oh I'm all loved and it's a free-for-all and you can come invade my space and you know I know that this has come up for you in a personal way recently you had to like eject somebody from in front of your classroom or who was somebody who was not behaving appropriately so I think boundaries are important and I wanted to kind of explore that a little bit with you in terms of how you comport yourself as as somebody who wants to be of service but also is not somebody who is there to be taken advantage of I look at it as the sage warrior you know you're the sage first and when necessary you're the warrior that non-violence is actually a term that means non-aggression and that you're not looking to be aggressive but you're also not looking to be overrun because it's important for us too we like the whole thing with with sexual predators that is taking place and exposed in the world today I said to the class the other day I said ok everybody has to make a promise raise your right hand I had everybody raise their right hand and then I will learn to really Swift moves that can deck somebody instantly hmm in other words if somebody is a predator and they're approaching you you need to be able to take a very swift action to put them into a place where they're not going to be a problem because we are not here to be taken advantage of we are here to be an advantage for everyone and so we have to learn we have to learn how to have that ability to take someone's aggression down in an instant yes we also have to learn the art of of eminence of of supreme eminence of being able to dominate a space to such a degree like the Buddha that if you came within you know a hundred feet of the Buddha you had nothing but peaceful thoughts but what if you have a rifle that is capable of traveling far more than a hundred feet in today's world you know you could shoot a person from a great distance from 3,000 feet or something like that what we have to do is we have to have multi levels to our being one know that if there's anything in the visual area that has harm for you that has thoughts of harm for you this is an awareness like I was saying about the be finding the flower this is the reverse of going out and finding that person who is out of harmony this is to actually know that there's someone in your air is a highly intuitive power and you've got to be able to have that power secondly you've got to be able to control the the the frequencies within the clothes rank within you know a few hundred feet so that nobody can have that violent attitude or that that obnoxious attitude or that aggressive attitude of that predators attitude within a few hundred feet and then if both of those things have failed and there's somebody right in your face you have to be able to take care of business and that's why the sage Warrior is the is the answer name we're not going to get there overnight we have to get there you know it's it's years and years and years of practice but this is exactly what we have to know and that for example let's talk about the sexual predators that are so much in the news these days they're victims of their own inadequacy they're victims of what we've been talking about their disconnection what everybody longs for is their source code we're all programmed to long for our source code and the source code is the womb from where we came and the breast from where we were first nurtured and so this whole obsession with the womb with the vagina with the breast is all about our sourcing we want to get back to that place where we were either completely held and safe or we were completely nurtured and safe and the only thing that's going to change that or alter that no matter how sophisticated we become is if we raise our conscious awareness so that we know that we've been there done that and don't need that anymore and we are here to provide that sanctuary for others so we don't invade somebody else's space we don't require sexual favors to kind of satisfy that need of ours to go there this is an again an educational this is a bio physical education whereby we are nurtured to come up from that very basic I mean sexual predators are just babies looking for the nipple sexual predators are just babies looking for the womb and the reality is that we need to educate everybody so that they can understand that's what's happening and until we've educated everyone so that that isn't happening either through AI or whatever it's going to be we need to be able to take care of ourselves we need to be able to set up boundaries we need to be able to not be taken advantage of because this is I mean we're getting crowded right as we said seven and a half billion people I mean la I don't know when you came to LA but it was in the mid-60s when I first came down here this place is crazy bigger than it ever was you know used to have some distance where you had some land now there's nothing and everybody is in their you know armored vehicle you know driving around and as we get more and more crowded we have to set up more and more boundaries that are boundaries of understanding rather than just boundaries of walls and and in lines of demarcation yeah we set up the wrong boundaries yeah you know and the the the sexual predator thing is super interesting in in the sense that it's coming up now it's not you know the behavior is has been there yeah it's not that suddenly there's a rise in the behavior it's it's a rise in awareness around the behavior and the outing you know it's like it's like the the the pimple has finally been popped right and when you have you know Ronan Farrow writes these articles in The New Yorker and this all comes out and it creates this cascading effect that is amplified by social media and the me to campaign and suddenly all these women finally feel safe to relate their their stories safety in numbers which yeah which then you know sort of amplifies the you know the waterfall of of this narrative you know becoming outed and and why do you think that's happening now like it the juxtaposition of that against the mass shooting thing is very interesting to me like the timing of it like why is this happening now exposure what you just said is true the amount of ways in which something can be exposed the amount of ways in which people can connect are doing two things they are allowing people to connect more deeply more closely more prevalently but they're also causing people to feel disconnected to a greater degree so all of the women on the me to campaign our feeling connected they're feeling a kindred spirit but as that kindred spirit Rises the ones that have no means of connecting at all are feeling more and more estranged so the ones that are feeling more estranged become more violent the ones that are feeling more connected become more powerful and less vulnerable to the predator the sexual predator and so these two things are happening simultaneously because of a third element and that third element is that ability of information to travel instantaneously across the world and now I mean let's face it back in the centuries sexual predators were called successful people you know they weren't even considered to be inappropriate you've just dominated you've you've you've conquered you've done whatever you've done in today's world that well that law has all changed I mean you even heard from one of the Predators own mouths saying well you know I was just raised in the 60s when all this behavior seemed to be okay well you know sorry for the you know lack of education but even then that behavior of unwillingness you know forcing yourself against unwillingness wasn't okay that was not okay and the misinterpretation of willingness and unwillingness is you know is another factor too because you know the unwillingness and yet the the temptation of furthering a career these are all of these really and and gross distractions that are being exposed in today's world by media by social media yeah it goes back to two tribes as well and you're talking about you know the empowerment that this community of women are people who have been victims of this you know are feeling and they're they can Co here and create this tribe that's oriented not geographically but around an idea mm-hmm and the cohesion of that tribe is amplified and quickened in the presence of of an enemy that everyone can kind of you know counterpoint against right the enemy being the predator mm-hmm when the enemy goes away the cohesion of the tribe becomes lessened I think right so it brings up this issue of the necessity of of the other right to cohere the group and so I'm wondering is it possible to to create these tribes without a necessity of of that of that enemy and I think what I'm getting at really you're really you're really on to something I like what I'm getting at in a broader sense is you know I think it applies to the way that I kind of think about our political climate right now and as somebody who I'm on social media you know my career is kind of you know plays itself out there and I go on Twitter and it's just it's the tribes of you know the Democrats and the Republicans and and how they're the this battle the battle lines that are being drawn and those boundaries are dictated by you know the parameters of of policy and perspective that these two groups have right so they cohere in opposition to each other and it goes back again also to kind of take it in step in further to you know how do we as conscious beings who are trying to raise the vibration approach these sorts of issues whether it's the me to campaign and the sexual predator issue or our political climate and do it in a way that is of a higher vibration than just casting aspersions and and you know shooting bows and arrows across the bow one of the things that human beings are moving toward is a social crisis you know we've had physical crises before and we're now entering the world of social crisis because we have so many connections across societies before it was a village here and a village here and a village here and what was going on in the village could be either a crisis or a benevolent circumstance but now with this cross-pollination of people throughout the world the boundaries in political nature are completely dissolving there's this thing called what are they called net countries the the fact that Facebook is a country that Google is a country and that they have no normal physical boundaries but people are functioning in them across these boundaries human beings have a destiny to come together ultimately so and in order to get together to come together we have to dissolve our differences what we're looking at now is you know in that Newton's third law of motion again for every action is a reaction for every dilemma there is an accompanying solution and it's right there but because our brain is fixated on danger from our survival you know decades and centuries and millennia we are focused on the danger we're focused on the difference we're focused on how can I keep myself safe from what you might do right there with that there is just as much similarity there is just as much calm there's just as much peace so if those of us that are focused in these ways that are more inclined towards the peaceful nature the coalition nature we can shift the dynamic so that it's not a mutual enemy that gathers us together but it's a mutual aspiration as opposed to a desperation that gathers us together and that is sustainable that mutual aspiration is like everybody training for the race right I immediately am thinking of like a sports analogy yes yes and that's why these things are so important that's why I follow your career is because I love what you get out of it I love how you get it out of it I love the way in which it all takes place because that is us looking at our similarities what does he do that I can do hmm what is what is he achieving that I can achieve in that same way rather than our differences which is oh heas achieve it means I can't I haven't achieved it or I'm comparing myself and I become jealous now jealousy can be a positive because I can become jealous of what you've achieved and then strive to achieve it myself and so I turn everything into that positive and what will be happening in the future if we have something to say about it is that we will be able to sustain those tribes that were created out of mutual enemy by introducing a mutual similarity okay now that we've done the me too I'm just saying as if I'm a you know a sexually assaulted person man or woman doesn't matter and and I'm a me-too participant and so as the as the inertia of that campaign begins to die down let's maintain our connection because that connection is powerful and let's introduce something into that connection and this is something that people like you and I can do in our work is that we can come up with the ideas of what to introduce into it that becomes the next meal it becomes the next meal that gathers the me to campaign around a table to be able to consume that okay so we've accomplished this and we've exposed sexual predators now we're doing this and that and now let's use this same coalition of forces in a cooperation to achieve something else and this is what we're going to use to do it and and all of a sudden we start replacing stimulus of negative right then a the the stimulus of a mutual enemy with the stimulus of a mutual aspiration I like that I'm trying to think of a practical example of that other than sports mmm well immediately I think back to our the first part of our conversation which is education what about what about all the women in the me2 and all the men in the me to would sort of combine you know almost like group funding right what is it called crowdfunding I love that I love the new phrasing don't you the the way there so what if everybody was decided to crowdfund educational emphasis on training children from the age of you know early education whenever that is in not being available if there's a predator present and there's no meal available for the predator what is the predator gonna do a predator leaves or the predator has to dissolve its nature it's like the old saying in the 60s what if they threw a war and no one showed up right there would be no war I always thought when you know 200,000 Americans invaded Iraq there was in the early stages there was 25 million Iraqis what if they all just decided that hey let's all get together on Sunday and surround the Green Zone and just surround it right and just surround it with love not with weapons and we'll put the ones in the very front who are going to get killed the ones who you know are willing to die for their cause and then the women and children are you know when the way back but you could have just cut it off you truly are a sixty a child of the sixties thinking outside that box yeah but I but I'm a child of the 60s that remembers the 60s because I wasn't it I wasn't a druggie huh no but I mean you were we we talked about this the last time on the podcast I mean you were very much of that oh yeah that time oh yeah and it's coming back because what huge is well that's what I was gonna ask you like what is that when you kind of take the temperature of the culture like what is the difference between what that felt like at that time at like you know peak sixties versus the kind of activism that that you're seeing now you got to watch an HBO special that's taking place in two parts right now it's called Rolling Stone stories from the edge and it's about Rolling Stone magazine and how it got started and everything that influenced it right and what it says in that is what really influenced the 60s was group consciousness was the fact that people realized that together they could achieve anything together they could bring down the bad together they could lift up the good and that's what's happening here with with social media with the me to campaign the me to make somebody that's sitting in some place maybe they were in Hollywood or in New York striving to be in the industry and they got raped or they got assaulted in some way and it just freaked them out and they left the industry and now they're sitting in some small town in some state somewhere and all of a sudden this me two thing comes on and it's in social media so it comes on their phone and they realize wow me too and they're now connected with thousands of other people and they have been feeling completely lost for a couple of decades because their entire dreams and aspirations got cut short by some predator right I just bleep myself yeah you believed yourself show up on the video and you probably heard a little bit in the in the audio track but yeah because of some you know dumb predator all of a sudden their career is shattered and all of a sudden it's reignited in some way where they're feeling a part of a group that was what went on in the 60s and it was a much different setting because we didn't have any of the media support that is there today but group consciousness is really really important and it's what's going to save humanity if we get it going fast enough well crisis provokes that mmm you know I think that the heightened sort of you know situation that we find ourselves in has motivated people to be more aware and active in a way that we haven't seen people are you know the the marshaling of activism and you know everything from people who are physically protesting in the streets to you know what you're seeing online is unprecedented in in my lifetime yeah and look at what happened in Houston in Florida and in Puerto Rico where you know people just you know crowdfunded and and flew down there and when Haiti got hit by the earthquake you know people went down there to help I mean the ability to respond to crisis is human nature and the ability to have compassion in crisis is human nature I remember you do too and right after 9/11 you know the world was saying we are all Americans and it was an interesting floaty kind of sensation for a few weeks until that died down and other things started to occur it's interesting how crisis is the one thing that allows people to transcend what we were talking about earlier that sense of separation and that you know zero-sum mentality to be able to understand the wholeness and the oneness of all of us where status suddenly doesn't mean anything it's what you're actually doing you know the guy who shows up and you know wherever the hurricane was to you know pull people out of their homes and we see these heroes and we we can celebrate the human spirit in the midst of these tragedies that unite us yeah I loved it and so I wish we could you know bottle that and find a way to you know maintain that outside the you know the temporal boundaries of a crisis well I think one of the things it would be good is that people like dr. Bush that you spoke about that was very much into measuring the results of certain things in the endocrine system you know we could measure the the technologies that take place within the psycho emotional and somatic bodies of what happens in a crisis and we're you know a millionaire takes his yacht and literally he he drives it down the street that's now flooded in ten feet of water to save people out of his heart of their homes so he's like the common man now even though he's got a you know a beautiful very very expensive yacht okay crisis causes that to happen what other kinds of circumstances we should do studies and find out what other kinds of circumstances are going to produce the same biochemical consequence so that we can then okay well let's produce some of those let's create some of those opportunities rather and have opportunity produce the collective consciousness rather than just crisis because we have that ability we have the ability to measure today I think the thread that that that runs through it is is connectivity when a crisis happens people are able to let go of their [ __ ] and and connect for a greater good and and they come together unified over a central you know heightened scenario to collectively overcome it right and they they have done studies I mean they have we know that depression rates and suicide rates went down in New York City in the aftermath of 9/11 hmm and it makes you because you know there was a sense of community and and connectivity that obviously took took place that that you know you just fed me with a new piece of data well I mean I think it's I love that I'm sure there's a lot more on that but I think it you know when I think about that it makes me think that we need to we need to read we need to rethink how we conceptualize happiness altogether you know I had I had I've had Dan Buettner on my podcast a couple times he just came on and talked about happiness and studied all the cultures that are the most happy and the sort of thematic you know things that these cultures share and it's not about the things that we prioritize in our culture it is about that connectivity it's about you know how we're honoring our elders it's about you know how it's about you know the small simple things that we tend to overlook is frivolous well diet is important because if we were to clarify our diets we would be a lot more susceptible to those endocrine chemistry's that would make us joyful and for example you were talking sports and how sports is a great unifier you know in the World Cup in the women's world cup of soccer you know the American team for a couple of series over the last couple of decades has come out on top and it has really turned the entire country into a soccer fan which is something unusual because number one women's sports have never been as a big a draw as men's sports and soccer has never been as big a draws football baseball and basketball in America and so achievement is another mechanism by which we can unify not just crisis but so we have crisis we have achievement we have diet we have all of these things and if we were to create a program a campaign that is revolving around connection achievement compassionate competition avoid avoidance of crisis and all of these things and know that we're going to get heavy pushback from the capital side which is going to want to have you know something else take place that will create crisis or what have you and not spend our energies reacting to the capital side of things that are going to try to create division but stay focused on our game we might have a 20-year plan here sounds good well given that we according to you we only have 35 if you will be good good shape right yeah and I actually don't use the one execute I use the word implement okay to me but to me execute is like is like a killing verb yeah I get that yeah I'll be more mindful about yeah it's fun well we got it let's see oh man we got to shut this down in a little bit but I thought like a good way to kind of end this would be to ask you a question a version of a question that I often ask doctors medical doctors that I've had on the show and one of the questions I always ask them at the end is if you found yourself transported to a parallel universe and you were named to be the Surgeon General what kind of changes would you attempt to implement in our culture so I thought a good question for you would be if you woke up in a parallel universe which I have dimension which this is a daily experience for you yeah I don't know maybe you're in a different dimension I've rehearsed this answer many times you were named to be the the guru general the spiritual master general of you know Western society at large maybe not just the United States but you know kind of culture as we live it what would you like to what what would be the changes that you would try to implement well I would look at a I would look at a twenty thirty forty year plan starting from children at the ages very young to three four years old and I would look to achieve measurable results in 15 20 years when the children are coming into their adulthood rather than trying to fix the adults that are already there I would like them to be inspired by watching the children that are growing up in a new way and that way would be one of educating the emotional body through the gut brain and the heart brain as strongly as we educate the intelligent body through the head brain and have have courses such as confidence and courage and compassion and and all of these self identity self valuation instead of just having service of others in a 12-step program when people have reached the place of of desperate need and trying to step themselves back into equilibrium let's take the 12 steps and install them actually in all of education at a very early age they don't have to they don't have to experience addiction in order to go to the 12 steps and Sophal actively taking the 12 steps absolutely absolutely and and and find all of the things that have worked throughout those elements the 12-step programs that the spirit based programs the athletic programs the team building programs and have those be as much of a mandatory course not just an elective but a mandatory course and then learn them through what like that Russian school that you were talking about through group through group effort where everybody is working on the same thing and everybody is building towards a common goal so what we end up with in 15 and 20 years is adults entering the system that the idea of me my my me mine is is quite foreign to them funny yeah yeah but the idea of how to collectively collaborate to solve a problem is second name it's absolutely second nature have a funny story quickly and that is that you know we have a school in India and I came out of our morning daily practice which you know starts before the rise of the Sun when we do yoga and meditation and I start looking around for my sandals which in India are called chapels and I can't find my can't find my chapels and a little kid comes walking up to me says can I help you and you know because there's like been 150 people in the room and there's just a massive trouble I said yeah I can't find my I can't find my sandals he says doesn't matter just take any pair that fits I said really he said that's what everybody does he says you got Chapel he said somebody just took you yeah you got chapel because somebody just took your shoes because they fit so I did I took somebody else's shoes which for the first ten steps felt really weird because you know somebody else's shoes have been on somebody else's foot and we're all one we are all one so the funny thing is about three or four days later as I'm coming in I see my shoes and they have a story to tell me because they've been on three or four different kids feet right and that's the group conscious if if yours doesn't work have mine and you literally get to walk a mile on someone in someone else's shoes yeah and I think that that that brings this whole thing full circle to where where we began and in terms of the education system look when when every person is walking around with a supercomputer and they're in their pocket that can answer any question and every fact is available in you know only as quickly as you can type it or say it into this computer that has to impact the way that we're educating our kids because it's not about memorizing facts any morals when they can find that whenever they need to it needs to be about how to think automatic spellcheck we don't have smelling tests anymore right I mean is it necessary and are we talking enough about how we're gonna modernize an update how we're indoctrinating our kids to you know inherit this planet from us that is in survival mode and in desperate condition so I like that expression how we're indoctrinating rather than how we're educating how we're indoctrinating our kids to save a planet that's in survival mode whoo mmm good one-liner it's a good way to end it it is I should let you get the last word though yeah I think I did but yes then you just want up we'll pick it up again you come on like every month oh let's do it on the podcast yeah I do I do a coaches corner with my coach when we talk about like support stuff but we could have like a guru corner yeah and and we can have courses like what we were talking I was gonna hold this up actually so guru Singh and I are talking about perhaps doing a course together and we're actually not talking about perhaps we're talking about doing it yes and I cannot Mir and I he greets me any hand he goes here I'm just I have this I woke up this morning and I had this idea so you can see it on the video but uh it says extreme awareness Elite Fitness the mental and physical muscles of greatness with guru Singh in which role that sounds like a cool course it is I'd like to take it I would too my so let's take it together and let other people take it with them what are we gonna tell people I figure that part out work that well so yeah I'm looking forward to figuring this out with you I think it'd be really fun it will be cool and monthlies I'm I'm good with coaches gurus corner surgeries corner all right well I'll put some thought into that as well excellent man all right my brother ah this is really really a pleasure I would tell you just from the first time that we met you know two people that live life on the top rather than on the bottom is really important my father always said and here's the last word right yeah I stuck it in my father always told me said if you never want to run out of gas realize that it's just as easy to keep the top half of the tank full as it is the bottom half and so for two people that keep the top half of our tanks full I love working with you feeling's mutual bless you alright bless you peace peace and Satnam laughs namaste hahaha mama stay Sadhna plant-based that's right you 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Published: Sun Dec 03 2017