Browning Auto 5 Dissasembly

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gentlemen ladies everything in between welcome back to the shop but we're gonna be looking at here today is the Browning automatic five also the Auto five or a five that's well known it's a pretty iconic shotgun for the United States actually a lot of the world to theirs they're used all over the place the British Empire all over Europe mostly they think there's a few South American places it was it was manufacturing but it should be sold and used the nomenclature on it as a automatic five said four automatic shotgun obviously and then it would hold five rounds for the team one of the magazine this was the very first design and produced automatic shotgun ever John Browning designed it in 1898 I think got a patent for it in 1900 it was produced all the way up until 1998 so almost a hundred years it's well known as the humpback as you can see because a lot unlike any of the other guns the action goes straight back and then drops off here giving it that that pretty iconic look originally brownian took this thing to Winchester because they made a lot of his designs or whatever he sold the designs to him and they manufactured him they weren't interested there was some terms in agreements they couldn't come together on John Browning considered this probably his his best design ever I'm just trying to remember exactly how he was treated it was basically his his most pride achievement was designing this gun here but Winchester turned it down so he took it to Remington the design and in the middle of all of that the president of Remington had a heart attack and died so Browning had to look somewhere else sorry still trying to get some juice in me here then he went to F in F n had been building some stuff including some of his pistols went went to FN brick Nationale Herstal in Belgium and they took his his design and went ahead and started producing it for him starting in 1902 I think 1903 later on down the road he actually got a license license at 2 Remington Remington created the model 11 which is was built until 1947 yeah I think it's somewhere around there was just after World War two but both the auto-5 and the brown a Remington Model 11 were used in military they saw service from World War one it's a little Vietnam era the Remington Model 11 lakhs for the most part it's identical except that lacks the magazine cutoff here oddly enough the Remington Model 11 is also the gun that Kurt Cobain shot himself with if I have memory serves correctly these guns came at least the Browning's came in 12 20 and 16 gauge the 16 gauges I think in the late seventies to the late eighties about a decade that they didn't make him at 16 gauge it just wasn't real popular anymore which is really sad I love 16 gauge that's my my dove killing gun of choice the 16 gauge I have three different guns and in that chambered for 16 I've got an 870 a savage 775 a which is an alloy receiver and it's a 775 a is a almost a direct copy of the a5 it was browning license that to savage to build them and they had other models too I think starting with their 720 and that was built for about 20 years from like 1930 to 1950 there was a 745 which is an alloy receiver that was kind of in the same era I think I think it was like the forties or something but it was a Lumina mallilie receiver made a little bit more lightweight later on Remington used the same design in partial on the 11:48 model 11:48 which obviously at 1947 or whatever it was the end of the production 11 they created the 11 48 which is just a modified version but these guns I mean just just thousands and thousands of them build in every shape form or whatever else they had different grades of them this particular one is a vent rib came into the shop with some spring issues on the the trigger group actually I had a broken the broken safety spring but originally brought it in because he said that he thought it was broken when it was he had somebody clean it when they put it back together they assembled it wrong which is not difficult to do with these guns they're pretty intricate on the inside and they have to go together a pretty specific way but they're not real calm they're not complicated but they are complex in design you just need to pay attention once you've been in out of one several times I've been I've rebuilt several of these pretty much from the ground up that's my third 16 gauge that I have I bought off a guy it was a 53 made Belgian 16 gauges before they called them sweet 16 that wasn't until I think the early to mid 60s that they call them sweet 16 before that they were just a 16 gauge a5 but the one that I got man the stalks were all cracked the hell they were you sent throw him away and putting new wood on them had to fit new four in new stock needs to be blued the barrel was tweaked a little bit it wasn't a vent rib so I can actually put in the Pharaoh bender and I can I could bend it out and then I had to pull some dents out of the barrel we blew the whole thing put it back so it looks all fancy and new but because it is a refinish gun doesn't have original wood anything like that it's not worth as much as something like this that's in pretty much original shape this one's a 12-gauge the 16 gauges in the 20 gauges will demand higher prices collector value wise but there are some 12 gauge versions that are still worth quite a bit the Belgian made ones are the most desirable I think in the middle of the 70s somewhere is one brownie moved the production to Japan with a company called Miroku and they were building for a long long time Oroku was building their lever actions and their bolt actions and their shotguns pumps autoloaders I mean just about everything a lot of Browning and Winchester stuff was built there in Japan like I said 1999 they cease production on this FN I think 99 mm did a couple of commemorative versions I think that's only cuz they probably had some spare parts laying around and they might as well you know get the most out of their dollar if they're gonna do something like that anyway he's hammering enough alone about this thing I just these guns are amazing they have a lot of history but they're a lot of fun too it is a what they call a long recoil operation which means that the barrel and actually when I pull the springs that I'll show you but the barrel and everything recoils with the whole gun back and then the action and a barrel recoil together then the barrel comes sliding back forward out of the action and the shell ejects and then the bullet comes forward and chambers a new round so it is a recoil operated gun they did think in 2014 I think it was that they rereleased in the Browning 85 I've also got one of those in the shop at happen stances but they are nowhere near the design of the original a5 there's some kind of bastardized the Benelli type action recoil action so everything happens back here the barrel is fixed it is still recoil operated but it's it's it's not this it's only exterior does it have the looks of the humpback and that's where the similarities end but anyways we'll move on here just like any other shotgun you know you're going to pull your here this gun it it does help to compress the barrel a little bit or hold it down because all that spring pressure is pushing forward on here so it makes this end cap a little bit stiff pulling off I'm gonna do that just get another camera for a second so I can get this thing off and not fight that spring okay here we go and that's what I'm talking about that thing just jumps right out of there like that so that pressures fighting on your end cap from here you can take your stock off the difference the only thing that stops the forward motion of this barrel against this big-ass spring this recoil spring for the barrel is the fore-end itself so the front the the barrel lug here actually hits the wood and that's what stops so a lot of these things have split wood Ottoman let's see if I can get you know you can see all that up here where it actually makes contact with this wood a lot of times what ends up happening is this thing splits right here or it's just so battered that you have to read their places wood now there are some tricks that I've seen I've seen people making PVC bushings and cutting a whole bunch of this wood back here and making a PVC bushing and epoxy it in so that you can retain the original wood but you have it repaired and then that PVC or you can use nylon or Delrin or whatever else but it's a little more forgiving you know it'll take a little bit more punishment than the wood and it keeps them crack in the wood there's a couple things you can do like that anyways yeah there's a detent and ball in here and this little brass discussion right there this one's old and probably needs to be cleaned up real good but that brass discussion holds in a just a little pin and that's what your York a prides against what attends it in those little grooves there oh girl just slide off like I said this one's a vent rib this guy's got a cute little brass flathead screw for a front bead so that's kind of a home fix job' they're pretty cool set this over here fixed choke gun on this particular model here let me start getting into the action some way things work here these this brass ring and it's collar and this little ring here is kind of a it acts as a break to help slow down the recoil impulse so that barrel going back so it doesn't just bash into the frame and just completely destroy the frame and what you'll see is that there is a slight bevel let's get that in the camera there somewhere there it's beveled here on this brass end and there's a corresponding bevel on that barrel lug so when it hits and that barrel recoils it actually pinches this down like so and that causes to drag down this mag tube like a brake and the other thing that there is is that the it's basically adjustable for the type of load you're gonna run okay the heavier recoil loads is the steel ring here has a bevel on it as well and what you would do if you're running the heavier recoiling loads stick your spring on you stick this steel ring here and then you put your brass spring over it and now you've got two beveled pieces wedges that are compressing this so it acts like it breaks even harder because it's now being compressed even harder and helps slow down that recoil impulse so it's not just the big spring here and the spring in the back here that will take apart but that will help do it through running lighter up dub lows things like that which is doable as you take that bevel action facing towards the action and that would go on first and then your spring is going behind it and the same thing that bevel in faces to the front of the magnitude there and that runs for lighter loads parts of these things are are all kinds of available they're not rare by any means like I said they've been almost 100 years of production so there's quite a few parts available for the gun tons and tons of screws on these things that go in certain places in certain ways the stock is held on by this screw here kind of like their land of the Winchester lever-action and stuff is it's literally just these two you know there's a screw here the events this one from backing out so going to there these Browning's it's pretty imperative that you know I mentioned before about using the right size screwdrivers and this thing's old and it's been come apart from original quite a few times because you can just see how rolled over and screwed up all of these screws are and they're just buggered this [ __ ] and that's what happens when you use in correct style screwdrivers so make sure that you've got the right stuff from that little screw is gonna come out just like so and you're gonna get this big one here comes out you pull the stock off here and this one came off it's it's pretty loose it's probably been on and off a couple of times typically they're real tight and what you end up having to do is take your hand on the bottom and swing and smack it right here on the wrist and pop it off and sometimes it's real tight or sometimes you have to come up top here and and and hit and grab right here so it'll come off don't try and just you know bring it off without you know then digging and damaging the stock and causing all kinds of problems the next kind of obvious thing here is your magazine spring and follower retainer and these things can be a royal royal cami ass but they come out just like any other shotgun depending on how old it is whether or not it's plastic or steel so that came out there again it's like a shotgun hold on to it that Springs I don't want to come just pouring it out of there pretty quick there follower it's not uncommon for these followers to get stuck here on this lip it's not that big of a deal I'll show you how to get that out of there here in a second we're gonna do is right come over here let's take this little guy out there's a little retainer on the back here for the action spring and that's actually what drives the bolt back and forth and the gun as a spring that's what comes down through the tail end of this receiver and it's got a little plug right here and there comes sometimes that pin comes out real super easy and sometimes it's rusted in but it just goes through that little hole there in that retainer on the back end of that spring and it slides in with that corresponding hole and it's just there to retain it but when they're that loose you start wiggling obviously they comes pouring it out there's another little kind of a follower on this end thing they usually stick together pretty well so you may or may not lose a part there once that tension is off it makes a lot easier for you to be able to move the bolt and stuff back and forth now with the pulled sugar group out kind of the same thing it's got four screws but two of those are just screws that retain another screw they're just there to keep other screw some interning and spinning out in operation so we'll pull those out real quick and then we'll pull the actual screws and some of these these guns actually and this one here one of these isn't really even a screw on some model the camera fits all of them or just some of them so that big one there was some of them are just a pin with a screw head in them I think this gun actually has it's a screw but some of these a fives and their and their cousins the savages and the Remington I don't know about the model of 11 but I'm pretty sure the savages of this way so that one's got an actual screw but some of these it's there's no threads on it it's just a pin that goes through the whole receiver and trigger group and everything else comes out and the only thing that holds that in is that little retaining screw but the way that those fit I don't think seen the camera here but see how there's that little Halfmoon cut out on that screw they're both issue [ __ ] that's you know you align that in the receiver there and then that a little screw sits in there and that's what retains and keeps it from spinning so as long as this little guy is tight this will never come out regardless how tight it is you get your trigger up here that spring there there's several different ways that this ends up inside of the gun it or rather I should say sometimes that's the pin on the trigger group here and a lot of the older models there was a pin inside the receiver itself that you had to put this on before the trigger group sits back down inside of there and it operates your your carrier and all that here is operated by that spring and when I go to put it back together I'll kind of show you how that works there but this little guy you know will likely fall out when you pull this ad that there's nothing really retain it if it's if it's in here inside the receiver you you'll have to breach in there and pull it out it won't just fall out all the time this trigger group is pretty straightforward it can be a little bit of a pain in the butt but typically you'll start with this is the disconnect err so when the guns on fire and you go to pull on the trigger it doesn't allow the trigger to move at all and then we're not disconnected but it's a safety but when the bolt comes forward it hits that little guy and pulls it out of the way and it allows the trigger to move to the hammer can fall right the disconnectors actually on the back there safe and then even if it's on on a safe that bolt isn't all the way in battery everything is a forward far enough if it won't work that rides on a little pin here that's actually part of this trigger group you can I mean no I know none of this one it must be the newer model it's got a what would you call a neural pin so it actually one of ones pushing here it's really hard to get out but you don't need to drive this pin out what you can do is get under there maybe with a little tiny flat blade if you can find one is the easiest or a pic sometimes I can get it with this pic sometimes I can't but it's just a little detent and spring underneath there and you can push it out of the way be careful cuz this thing will come flying you just push that down that just slides off of that pin and you got that little ball or there's not even a detail ball with an actual detent little pin spring that's all that's in there and what keeps that from sliding off during operation is that there's a square a notch cut out in the bottom of this and that detent rides in there so this thing can't come out of there and since I've already started taking the trigger before we're gonna go ahead and finish taking it apart for the yeah [ __ ] it so hammer will come forward you know a big giant flash being back here and this screw that said this screw this in the bottom side there is what holds that mainspring in the hammer spring that comes out of there and what it is is this spring is actually threaded and so that screws threads directly into that spring that's just a through-hole in here but what it does retain is this this hole here this is another flat spring under here you can see the the edge but that little flat spring is your trigger return spring let me see those two get the light in there just right see how there's like three legs in there it looks almost like a sear spring out of 1911 but that center piece right here is actually the what holds the there's a detent ball under there and that's what makes the safety operator right there detent ball and that spring hold the detent ball down so that goes back and forth the other two legs of this thing are what are your trigger return spring so there's a leg for each side of the trigger and you can see where it rides there see how it rides in there on each side of it and that's your trigger return spring it's only lined up with this hole here but this little narrow pins we actually keeps it down keep swinging pressure on it there's a pin here that's all that holds the trigger in place you you can pull the trigger out first and then knock that pin out and then the spring comes out be careful because there is a detent ball underneath here and that's where the safety once that detent ball is out of the way it's safety will fall out your hammer is just in there by pin you can see it it it moves pretty easy that that pins not in there real super tight so it's in hell that might even fall out on you but that's really all there is to it I really don't wanna take a part in that more because this stuff's kind of a pain in the ass to get together but we're gonna settle that over here right or go juice the next thing we're do is we pull this this this carrier out of here and it'll like the other stuff has a retaining screw on both sides so we're gonna pull these retaining screws out and they're real short just like the other ones another interesting fact too is that I've remembered correctly these screws are actually clocked or what they call clocked for for a specific part of the receiver so that when you put this back together the screws pretty much face all the same direction and people over the time over the years taken apart put it back together generally what happens is those screws don't go back in the same hole because they're all the same if you look at all these things here the same thread pattern page size and everything else so you got five or six of those and they just never go back into the same holes so you could sit here and spend time and figure out which one they go into so that all your screws line up in the same direction and whatever else and unless you're just a real stickler for it it's not worth it this big giant screw here comes out it did big screw it's got three there's one leg your follower but it's got kind of a pin on there and that's what holds that carrier in or what the carrier rides on so there's not a the screw doesn't go all the way through there's just one on each side there and there's the other part of your carrier as the bolt comes back this gets kicked those the shell up it's nice and dewy I'm not that guy come out here this is a magazine disconnect is what this is here so what happens is is this the magazines open stores the gun fires that did cycling rounds out of the magazine what we can do is if you want to change the type of ammunition you're using so you're going from a different type of shot so if you want to go from a number four to a number two or let's say that you have another shooting dove and you're running eights and nines you want to go down to like a seven half a seven but you can flip that and what it does is it physically blocks rounds for coming out of the magazine here you see that little little guy right there if you flip that back the other way you can see that moving well that's what stops what happens is the gun will fire and it'll lock up open after firing and ejecting that show and you can drop another shell into the chamber and then send the bolt home and you can keep single feeding rounds into it like that so forward it'll run out of the magazine and when you flip it back it locks the blocks the magazine and it's simple enough it's just a screw and this is a little flat spring here and you see somebody else has been inside of this thing and just bugger this [ __ ] out of that screw yeah somebody really much that thing up go back focus you come on know that a few whatever you can see it's pretty trashed but that spring just kind of a flat spring and that'll just kind of slide right off of there no we do over here ranks that screwed it was all [ __ ] and that's my I mean it's pretty screwed that [ __ ] go which one of you that's how bad it is you came and tell which one he's new there it is waiting um that also retains if I remember correctly retains the mag tube that actually screws into the mag tube too there's a dimple on it you know see others that area without threads on it on this screw pokes another mag tube and that's what keeps it from packing out these things are usually in here really really tight so don't don't mess with pulling those things out man you know stripping something or whatever else now it's just a matter of getting little screws out of here so there's three little screws in here and they're super tiny flat blade screw mm-hmm I'm gonna come back these screws here in a little bit man I think they have been replaced at some point in their lives with some sort of set screw those do not look factory at all because I think they're a hex head like an allen key they're not flat heads and they're supposed to be a TBD little flat heads so I think I'm gonna have to come back to those here in the second figure out what the [ __ ] here so the bolt and carrier and all this other stuff this stuff comes out you're kind of kind of goofy this charging handle you have to have this this link here has to be pushed up out of the way for this charging handle of it to kind of let go of the bolt and all that but first if you see you get on this side here is a hole that hole is not for lubrication and that's so you can align this pin that hold some of these locking parts up on the inside here and there spring pulls them in and that's what's stopping this bolt from coming out the front end so if you line it up there and you can see that pin in there that little guy right there you get the line up in that little notch when when you do that on the opposite side you are the receiver here is that little pin so that's why you can take your punch stick it in that hole there let's get one that's actually gonna fit okay no shoe big head out the other side like so those are typically pretty tight so penn came out your locking tab there and inside you have that spring the cold spring in there goes underneath there and now what you can do is that even if you somehow got that back down there so the charging handle to come out what don't you have to do is lift up on this guy here and you can see my charging handle how it's gets locked in there and you lift this up out of the way and that charging handle will slide back out from underneath it and now you can just push that bolt and everything in the carrier actually she's kind of the bolt and locking out the front and then the charging handle itself you can just pull back out through here and that's that's pretty much eternal except I'm gonna have to go back to these here on this gun I don't know what the deal is I put some goo in there to try and blow out all the dirt and gunk but it looks as though somebody is replaced those but typically those are really really tiny flathead screws you have to get in there be very careful with your these are like this here is not only a shell stop but it's also your bolt released when it gets locked back so as the thing cycles it acts as a bolt release and a shell stopped and and this guy to some extent to works that way but those was what's hold all these things in here so behind here there's is a big coil spring and the same thing and here back right here there's a big coil spring yeah that better there she'll stopping here so anyways those those unscrew and then this just kind of did they'll pop out of the way they're there they're a pain in the butt to put back in anyways but if I could get them out I would show you I really really am not sure what's going on there there's some replacement parts clearly and again I think they're set screws or something holding a pen in would be my guess because those screws are almost this long almost completely the width here those skinny little flathead screws and they're threaded at the top and here it's just a pin the rest of it that goes through there but I think in this case what they've done is replaced those they probably got buggered up somehow this guns been apart many times clearly that they probably dropped the pin in that fit the hole like it's supposed to and then ran a set screw down on top of it to eat the pin to come back out so that's quite interesting anyways that's all there is to that disassembly there on the receiver I think we've still got bolt carrier so locking block comes in and out here like that you have two for the same reason these things extractors and ejectors are always a pain in the ass to get in and out so I'm not going to drive these things out two pins extractors and ejectors coil springs behind them they come out in the top this thing is just dirty as all hell look at that look big pin here holds in your firing pin so that guy would come out little Clee wants to push up and not very they generally don't these things are all in here super tight on all these pins and and can do some it's not worth nailing them out just for the sake of video but you just know that they're in their types when you drift them out your app beat the crap out of them which kind of a crescent shape you in here and that's really what retains this the firing pin holds it in because obviously the link is in there with its pin but to get that out you have to pull knock this pin out pull the firing pin out this will come out and there's a pin on the loop between a link and the actual locking block itself pretty simple pretty straightforward kind of stuff you'll see how it comes apart it's just there and they're super tight and I don't want to wash them out or have risk allowing them to get damaged they fall out or whatever else they're pretty tight for a reason but that's really all there is to this thing I'm obviously that a couple of times but that's it there's a lot of complexities and it looks like a lot of parts but they're just not that complicated your screws hold the blood Pat in just like any other shotgun you just don't have to do anything in the back and there's obviously you saw this crew come out so there's no bolt back if you get to pull out to get the stalks out as I put together I'll try and show you some things to look at that are commonly broken parts in it that we're out a lot and things like that this this is something I haven't encountered before and then like I said I believe what has been done here is that there are some sort of allen head screw I don't know if they're metric or standard or wood I haven't gotten that far into it yet that's holding in just pins I'm gonna have to I don't know if I'm me the bar figured out I fixed what the guy needed fixing don't need to really pull him out there's nothing back there broke so I'm not gonna get into it I'm afraid I might break it if I do but it's clearly been repaired and replaced with something we'll figure it out not you know I'll go through some things that are pretty common to break
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Keywords: browning, auto5, a5, 12ga, 12 gauge, reminton 11, gunsmithing, auto loader, how to disassemble a browning a5, cleaning browning a5, Browning A-5, Browning A5, A-5 Buck Special, shotgun, automatic shotgun, semi-auto shotgun, hump back, Browning Hump back, hump back receiver, recoil operated, friction system, friction rings, FN, Belgium Browning, Belgian Browning, A5, A-5, savage, 720, 755, 775, 11, fr, franchi, al 48
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Length: 37min 31sec (2251 seconds)
Published: Sat Sep 09 2017
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