Bread Proofing Basket & Baking Cloche

hey everybody welcome back to the studio today I hope you are doing well it has been one crazy eventful week like event after event that has just not been let's put it this way it's been sub-optimal to put it nicely so we're not to talk about all that but just a lot of crazy things going on this week and spent way too much money having to fix things and just not been a good week and in the meantime my powerline or my internet line got cut so I didn't upload a video any this week so normally have been doing Tuesday and Saturday and it is now Saturday afternoon and I'm recording this because I was like you know what I am gonna make a video whenever this happens to go up it will go up my internet should be fixed on Monday I can record and edit and upload but uploading a video to YouTube from my cell phone signal would just be crazy so we're not doing that okay extremely long intro here but today we are gonna make two different things we're gonna make a proving basket from my bread and we're gonna make a bread cloche which is a basically a pizza stone with a groove in it and I'm gonna make a pottery Bowl that's going to end up being the lid that we can bake the bread in as well so if you're not into making bread then this may not be for you but that's something I've gotten really interested in lately and so yes we're gonna make a proving basket or a proofing basket whichever way you want to say it I think you can say it either way and we're gonna make a baking cloche to bake the bread and we might make more than one but so we're gonna do at least one of each and so let's go [Music] all right one more event here my battery is almost dead in my phone so I unhooked my external microphone so the audio might be a little bit poor but I'm like you know what I don't care what happens I'm making a video whether the audio quality is poor or whether it's okay at this point I don't care I'm just recording because I am determined to do something today and determined to make a video and I'm just tired of being interrupted by external circumstances so lesson number one of the day sometimes you just got to do it no matter what so first of all I have this bowl from my from my kitchen that what I did is I actually made a proving basket let me go grab that I'll shut team okay I did make one basket already I used some pretty thick coils for this one and so this thing probably weighs like 8 pounds and I thought you know what that's that's gonna be a bit heavy but I did based on the size no more on when I first measured this bowl I thought man that looks way bit it looks really too big but by the time number one the clay shrinks and the more number two we're making it on the inside of this bowl and then we're gonna use the inside of the proofing basket actually this one's gonna end up being about perfect it's gonna be about nine inches wide on the inside at about three inches deep by the time it's finished and that's really about perfect for the size that I want to make and so but I'm gonna make one more and I'm gonna make it with smaller coils this time because this one like said just super heavy and super thick and so I may end up loving this one but it's just really heavy and really thick and so not that it's gonna be a big deal but I just figured you know what I don't necessarily need to have it that that hefty so I've got this bowl I can make it in I've got another Bowl right here as well that was a little bit smaller size than this one but if I think it's gonna be too big when I do the smaller coils in this one it maybe will make a second one in the other Bowl but for now I've got this bowl to lay the coils inside I've got my die in the extruder already and I got my clay so now we're just gonna maybe do a little time lapse and start running out some coils and putting them in the bottom of the bowl starting with a round ball like I did that one and then just coil that around that ball and I'm not scoring and slipping these I'm just using really wet clay and so as I make it it sticks together also I'm not going to be glazing this and so as long as it sticks together or in order to be I'm going to just find this one time but I'm going to fire it to glaze temperature and just leave it raw clay and so all I'm going to be doing is dusting it with flour and then putting the the the bread in it for the final proof and then be dumping it out of that onto you know some parchment paper to to bake so doesn't that like so it doesn't have to be glazed and it's just gonna be fired one time to glaze temperature and so yeah that's what we're gonna do so let's get rolling with the time-lapse [Music] you [Music] you [Music] all right well there we go we have one proofing basket or another proofing basket in this bowl to dry the last one took quite a while to dry because the bottom doesn't get air around it and it took quite a while to release but I just thought it was still best just to make it inside of this bowl because it made it the perfect size so I made this one a little bit shorter than the last one and but I did measure inside still about ten and a half inches from here to here on the inside of this which will end up being about nine inches wide completely finished so we're gonna let that drive that'll take several days to even come out of this unless it unless the weather dries out quite a bit then it may come out sooner but either way now we're gonna make the cloche we're gonna make basically a flat round disc with a groove in it and then I'm gonna make a bowl then I will then trim will then eventually turn upside down to fit in that groove and I'll either put handles a handle on the top of that or maybe two handles on the side something like that in order to be able to pick that lid up off of the the basically like a round pizza stone type thing that'll be on the bottom but anyway so that yeah so there's the proofing basket and what I have now is I have one of my 14-inch round plastic bats here I have a couple three pound clay balls on a couple five-pound clay balls not 100% sure how much it's going to take but I want to make that bottom piece I want to make it pretty thick I probably want to get at least a half an inch thick and it needs to be probably 11 to 12 inches wide so that made that three pounds may not even be enough but we're gonna try one and then if it's not enough we'll grab a little bit more clay and we'll make another so I said I want to make sure that this bottom is it's fairly thick just so that it holds a lot of heat but also so that it's durable and like I said I'm not sure if three pounds will be enough I thought about grabbing three and a half I probably should have because then I could just cut the extra off because now that I'm throwing this I don't believe this is going to be enough because I probably want to leave it about that thickness right there and it looks to me like that's probably only 11 inches wide and I probably want to go wider than that so yeah that is almost 11 inches wide right there but that's about the thickness I wanted to go and we might just go a little bit thinner just so we can get a little bit wider and then we'll add maybe another half a pound to the next clay ball and use it so I think that I mean that's still plenty thick even if I left it like that so I think we'll be good with that we used my nice rubber rib here to smooth that out all right there we go and now it's probably gotten a little bit wider so we're now it's about eleven and a quarter so I'm gonna do is just put put a groove in it way out here at the outside edge with my finger and what that's going to do is just allow the bowl that I make to sit down in this groove and then basically have a flat place here then I can set the set the bread on whether I do it sliding it on there from a some kind of I've been I don't have a pizza peel which I need to get one but I've been just sliding it on there from my wood cutting board or if I just if I get the bread out of the the dough out of the proofing basket onto a piece of parchment paper then I could just lift that up and set that on there but still inside that still gives me we'll see that's only ten inches right now so by the time that shrinks its gonna be a little bit small inside this so that's why I wanted to make it wider but I think that'll still be fine but we're gonna make another one and make it a little bit bigger and then we'll have a bowl we'll make a bowl to fit each one of these and then we'll see which one works best so it's about ten and a quarter where the where the lip of the ball needs to go I would like that groove to be a little bit bigger and then also make the outside of it go a little bit wider so I probably want to go twelve and a half probably for the next one but that's what we have with that one I went ahead and grabbed four pounds for this one because I thought you know what the wider it gets the more clay you need to make that ring all the way around and I thought instead of just barely having enough I'd rather have too much and either have it thicker or or take some extra clay off once it gets out there so we got four pounds for this one and it'll probably be more what I want then even three and a half would be yeah I think the the little these plastic bats have those little pockets on the bottom that fit around your bat pins and I think one of the pockets on this one is a little messed up little broken so if I'm not careful it will ship like crazy on me like that second ago one of the crazy parts is that I can't even bake any bread right now in the house because along with my internet cable the person installing my new septic system also hit my gas line that goes to my house so that's cut off right now so thankfully the only thing that the gas does is go to my stove in my my oven but I actually have made some bread made some dough that's proofing right now in the house and I'm gonna actually try cooking that on my grill so we're gonna try that I'm gonna do it on a cookie sheet or maybe two cookie sheets and then put a large cooking pot over top of it to make like a makeshift cloche so we're gonna try that I'll probably try that this evening because I've got the bread proofing right now but by the time these are done my guests will be fixed and we'll be back in business so yeah see that's only a little over twelve right there but I could go a little thinner with the whole thing and get it out there but by the time I do the little groove it'll probably end up being about twelve and a half so it really is needs really needs to be about four pounds in the bottom here so now we'll go out near the edge and I'm gonna put that little with that groove in there like I wanted the only problem with making that groove is that I really have to have the ball to fit perfectly to that size and also not warp it all so giving myself a nice little challenge there for making that fit right but I think that would be really nice to have that fit right down in that groove and fit nice and snug so all right so this one is yeah twelve and a half by thumb have made that groove alright so that was ten and a quarter to the inside of the groove and this one is maybe 11 and 16 so the bowl inside of the bowl measurement needs to be that size so that can at least get past the the inside flat part and into the groove so the rim of each of those bowls that I'm going to make next need to go inside that and I'd say the bowl in depth of the bowl on the inside even needs to be a good four inches maybe you know maybe four and a half something like that just to give enough space in there for the bread to rise as its as its inside the cloche one of the things that this if you don't know with bread one of the things that helps bread rise in an oven is adding steam inside the oven and if you don't have something to put it in like a Dutch oven or closure you have to actually add water into a pan inside of an oven so it creates what's called a spring that allows the bread to rise while it's being baking and it allows the the crust of the bread to stay soft enough so it can rise if not the crust will harden too soon and then your bread will just be because it's still cook and it still be bread but it'll just be more dense because the crust is forming not allowed it to expand that steam inside the oven allows the crust of the bread of the outside of the bread to stay soft so it can rise and then once that steams pretty much gone the crust forms and you get that nice crispy crust and still a nice Airy loaf on the inside so that's the point of making these is so the bread actually will kind of steam itself inside of this because answered as releasing moisture it stays inside of the cloche or if you have a Dutch oven that works the exact same way I don't have one of those sub and just making mine with a pan in the oven - to create that steam but anyway now we're gonna make the two bowls and yeah we'll be done all right we have our two five pound clay balls which I'm hoping is gonna be enough to make the bowls that go on top so I'll try one and we'll just like the the trays there we'll see it the big enough and then go from there on the sides but it should be I'm not too too worried about this the only thing about this is I probably will turn this over and trim this to be a little bit more round once once it is once it stiffens so that I can have that because it the bottom this is going to end up being the top as its turned over on that tray it would be really nice to actually make it thick enough that it makes a perfect dome I would definitely have to use more than five pounds to do that but here initially we're just gonna make one that's it is curved but it won't be perfectly round on the outside all right so the first one needs to be ten and a quarter on the inside measurement of the rim of the bowl I'd like to leave the really the whole thing but especially the RAM I want to leave a little bit of thickness there so I can kind of fit in that groove and it gives a little more sturdiness as it fits down in that groove makes a nice make this rounded the indention there is nice and rounded so right now we're at about eight and a half yeah inside depth where we're at like five so we're good there let's see we're at ten there so now we'll probably shape a little bit I'm not gonna worry too much about the base of this like I said because I'm gonna turn this over and trim it let's see the inside measurement there it's about ten and a quarter so we're we're almost there the only thing is I think this might I know she's shrinking wise it should be the same because it's a percentage but I think that this began white ball will probably shrink more than that so I probably want to go a little bit more than ten and a quarter on the width I could be proven wrong on that but my experience in the past is I think that I need to go a little bit wider to allow for that the way this bowl is going to shrink versus that big flat platter there yeah I'm gonna go almost ten and a half there I am going to reverse this a little bit and curve the inside down here at the base you know similarly like the proofing basket this will most likely not be glazed I could glaze the outside of this bowl but the the base is not going to be glazed and the inside of this will not be glazed you know just be fired to to glaze temperature all right we have almost ten and a half about ten and three-eighths two to seven sixteenths so I think we'll be good right there and I think for the next one we need to definitely grab a little bit more clay but that's a good thickness for that size and like I said I left extra clay there cuz I'm gonna trim that come back later and trim that alright there's six pounds here that's left over that pug that I had laying over there so I think this will be good so six pound ball and we got to go like just barely over 11 inches in width so it's not much wider than that one but I'd like to have the extra clay to make it a little bit more rounded as well so combined weight if I do the six and the four that'd be ten pounds of clay there plus whatever handles I put on of course I'm going to trim this so it'll end up being a little bit less than six pounds by the time it's trimmed and then the the other one you got five and and three you got eight pounds there and it might end up that the smaller one will work better based on the size of my lobes it all just depends on the size of the look that you're making and I'm trying to base these off of what I've made so far and trying to get a similar size so this one I'm going to leave a little bit more clay at the bottom so that I can do a little bit more of a trimming job there than when I planned for that five pound ball probably gonna go for about 11 and a quarter on the inside of this one all right we are about ten and a half so I think what I'm gonna do here is let's do some of my route reverse throwing and curve this that'll allow me to shape the inside and then give me a better idea of how I'm gonna trim the outside if I get the curve the way I want on the inside and I don't want these to taper in too quickly from the rim because I want to have that room for the bread to rise inside there yeah we're still only at ten and a half so we got to go out a little bit wider and I can do that while shaping this like this as well I can kind of push out and then go down it's gonna make a really nice bowl I'm gonna wish I had this just as a ball not as the lid here all right we're getting there we're almost there alright let's measure that yeah I believe we're good right there the wheel going back the other way so I can make sure this rim is nice and rounded here there we go yeah I really like that one and then maybe we'll I'm sure that's probably enough for this video but left the extra clay there at the bottom maybe we'll come back with another video where I turn these over make sure they fit trim the trim the bottom of these which will then end up being the top and but the handles on maybe we'll make a separate video about that but for now I think that's good we've got to proving baskets made one in this video and the other one I showed you I got two closures and yeah we'll see if they turn out well and yeah I'm getting ready to go see if my bread how well it's doing for rising my dough and then yeah I'm gonna try baking some of that on my gas grill so they'll be interesting to see what happens but as always thank you guys for being here and apologize about all the delays lately but yeah life has just been crazy and we're just having to deal with it so that's what we all do but it's been very interesting lately so anyway thank you guys for your support and especially you patrons on patreon you guys are awesome and I really appreciate it you guys got a message recently that I sent out the first batch of pots to you all who who deserve those or earn those so thank you all so much for your help and support on that but anyway hope you guys have a great day and we'll see you in the next video thanks guys [Music]

Channel: Matthew Kelly Pottery

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Length: 28min 54sec (1734 seconds)

Published: Tue May 05 2020